 What like we could do it ourselves and these are guys who are like doing it We pack up our pond up or we drive down there. Did you have like money saved up or did you just pull it up? I was selling women's shoes at Nordstroms. David was working at Verizon AT&T. So back then YouTube wasn't even in the psyche of our parents You was on-road to be a pre-med student. How did you make that conviction? They kind of saw us going to LA as a grad school thing Like okay do that for like a couple years and then come back. I guess our parents didn't hold us back, right? We just knew it was our passion like if you just look at our track record. That's just what we were into I don't know who said it first Mark Cuban was like don't just follow your dreams What have you proven to put your time into your effort? That's the thing you're actually passionate about because you already do it whether it's a big leap a small leap You've got to take a jump and we jumped