 Welcome to our viewers around the world, I'm Albert Lewitton at the I-24 News headquarters in Tel Aviv. Day 84 of the war in Gaza, and here's what you need to know. Hamas officials are expected in Cairo later today to give its observations about an Egyptian plan for a ceasefire that would end the war in Gaza. AFP reports that Egypt laid out the plan last week to Hamas and to Islamic Shahad. The plan, stage one, renewable ceasefires. Stage two, a staggered release of hostages held by Hamas in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israel. Stage three, a ceasefire to end the war. This plan also provides for Palestinian government of technocrats responsible for governing and rebuilding in a post-war Gaza. There has been no word from Israel on this report. Syrian state media says Israel has staged another round of overnight missile strikes near Damascus. There has been no details on what was struck. Iran has executed four people it accuses of spying for Israel, three men and one woman. A fifth prisoner was transferred to solitary confinement yesterday. That prisoner was allegedly seen on video being interrogated by alleged Mossad agents within Iran. These executions come just after the elimination of the Iran Revolutionary Guard General Razi Musavi in Israel. Israel is said to be behind that. The IDF raided a house of a Hamas fighter in the outskirts of Jabalia. They raided that house a wedding album with wedding pictures but also photos of children holding weapons, grenades, RPG launchers, children holding RPG launchers. Earlier this month IDF video interrogations showed just how Hamas has exploited children. Something not discussed at Pro Hamas protests worldwide and UNICEF seems to be silent about this. A two month extensive investigation by the New York Times shows the brutality Hamas inflicted on women on October the 7th. More than 150 people were interviewed for this. Details are so graphic about the systematic sexual assaults on women. Women groups around the world including the United Nations continue to remain silent. Investigators within Israel's top national police unit Lahav 433 have been steadily gathering evidence but they have not put a number of how many women have been raped saying that most are dead and buried and we may never know. No survivors have spoken out publicly. We have live team coverage of the war in Gaza. We now begin with Robert Swift, I-24 News Correspondents. They wrote, Robert there has been a lot of movement this morning in Khan UNICEF. We have been told there's so many attacks against IDF but that the IDF has actually struck back and gotten a lot of terrorists killed. Tell us more. That's right. So the 460th, the 7th and the 261st combat brigade teams are operating in Khan UNICEF and the IDF has said that those units together have killed dozens of terrorists. Now it's understood that they did this through the use of aerial bombardment, tank fire and sniper fire. Khan UNICEF is the main focus of the Israeli military in Gaza at the moment and it has been for over a week. This is considered a stronghold of Hamas, sorry, even within the parameters of the Gaza Strip itself. And so it is the main focus there. Now that the Israeli military has said it controls the northern parts of the Gaza Strip. But behind me you'll be able to see the Gaza Strip and the fighting there continues. Just about a minute ago we heard an Apache gunship using its chain gun, the cannon where the pilot sits, likely using that fire to suppress positions down somewhere in the northern neighborhoods of the Gaza Strip to the front of us. And you'll be able to see that there's a cloud of smoke over the whole of the northern Gaza Strip and we've been hearing sporadic machine gun fire coming from there implying that there is still fighting taking place. I was looking through the binoculars just a minute ago and one thing that is worth noting is that there are neighborhoods to our front which are completely demolished. The buildings on the right hand side, there's whole areas, there's whole streets there that just look essentially like hillsides of rubble. But then to the left there's another neighborhood which is relatively intact. And I guess that goes to show the way that certain areas were the main targets of the IDF advances when they were going in. And that is the situation here on the ground as we speak. Great. Robert Swift joining us live now from Stairoads from the southern part of Israel on the border with Gaza. Thanks so much for joining us. We continue our live team coverage here in studio with Lieutenant Colonel Dr. Shah Har Svi. He's a senior fellow for the Institute for Policy and Strategy at Raikoum University. He's also the former acting director general for the Ministry of Strategic Affairs. Thanks so much for coming in this morning. Let's talk a little bit about this proposal by Egypt for a ceasefire. There's three stages. The first one's renewable ceasefire, second stage would be a staggered release of hostages and the third one, a ceasefire to end the war. We had this sort of in play already. So what makes this different today? From our point of view, I believe that from the Israeli point of view, we are willing of course to make a ceasefire and to get back the hostages, all of them or at least some of them, the main problem, the major problem of course is with Hamas. Because as far as we understand it, we should be very modest because we really don't know much. But as far as I understand, Hamas was a little bit disappointed with the former deal because he did think that it would bring a long ceasefire. And at the end of the day, after a week or two, Israel continued its military operation. Meaning from this point of view, we're going back to this kind of a deal. So I do suspect that he would like to make an all-in deal, if I may say so. Meaning getting back all the hostages but stopping completely the military operation. I'm not sure that this is what he's thinking about, but it might be that this is his main thought. But why would Israel agree to stopping the military operation? It seems as though right from the beginning, the operation was extremely specific. Continue continuing, continue until Hamas is eradicated. Bring the hostages back. It's two-fold. So it seems as though this would eliminate one of those goals. I think Israel should and must continue and try to achieve its two main goals. The first one, bring back all the hostages. It is our more duty to bring them back home. Because if I may say so, we betrayed them on the October 7th. So we must bring them back home ASAP. And the second thing, to eliminate Hamas. Because it's not only a war between Israel and Hamas, the implication or the outcome of the war with every implication for all the region. This is why we must continue. And if you ask me, what is the immediate target is to bring back the hostages? Because we know, we hear what they suffer them, the hostages that came back and they don't have time. The sand cocky is running out of time. So we must do everything we can to bring them back immediately. But here we are 84 days into this. I think at some point won't the Israeli population, the populace say, do something. Whatever deal we get put on the table, let's just accept it. Because I think everyone understands that we can eliminate Hamas in a month, in a two. We can do it in the future. But I'm not sure, unfortunately, that the hostages have a month or two to be there. So this is why, as I said before, we must do anything. We must continue, if you ask me, with three main efforts. The first one is to continue with the military operation to try to convince the Hamas that actually he has no other choice but to make some kind of a deal. Second to continue with the negotiation, with the Afghanistan negotiation through Qatar, through Egypt, with the mediation of the US and other players. And the third effort, I think that it might be that the US must put some pressure, real pressure on Qatar, because Qatar seems to be one of the main players that can do something or can convince Hamas to be more flexible. Great. Shall I just hold on one second? Because you know the common belief was that Hamas had too much to lose from a war with Israel. It wasn't worth the risk. But when did that begin to change? So let me bring in peace now here by I-24 news correspondent Jonathan Regiff. He'll tell us exactly how that all changed. On paper, it looked like a very good plan, beneficial to everyone involved. Hamas would get much needed money for its civil employees who do not get their salaries. This money is going to pay my debts. I have to pay my delayed rents, electricity, water bill. Qatar would get the international status as the provider of Gaza and a reliable global player. Qatar is a credible state country, okay? And when we tell them what is there on the ground, what we are doing there, it's a good work. And Israel, which mostly kept quiet on the issue, did everything to facilitate it, believing an improved economic situation in Gaza would serve as a calming factor. It began roughly five years ago. As Gaza was sinking into a major economic crisis, Qatar offered assistance to the Gaza residents. Monthly cash envelopes with anything between $15 million and $40 million were brought by the Qatari envoy to the banks in Gaza and from there, on paper, to pay the salaries of Gaza's civil workers who were desperately waiting for it. One day feels like a year to us. We have kids that we would like to raise to give them a good life. Where are we supposed to get the money for that? At the same time, Qatar was also providing fuel for the Gaza power plants to keep working for longer hours and cement for construction of buildings destroyed in previous wars with Israel. Qatar became the closest ally of Hamas. The Emir was given a hero's welcome when he came for a visit, and at least according to his envoy, peaceful days were about to come. The work which we are doing, it's keeping peace for the both nation, okay, both people. There was just one issue. Someone had to monitor where exactly the aid was going and whether the claims made by Hamas were actually true. They know the money that was spent went only for humanitarian projects. But one penny was used for weapons or other things. The salaries are used for health, education, welfare, and other humanitarian cases. The money will go only to beneficiaries. Now we know who these beneficiaries really were. Muhammad Sinwar, for example, brother of Hamas leader Iqya Sinwar. Here we see him right next to the driver in what is the biggest tunnel uncovered so far in Gaza, a huge tunnel which cost millions and millions of dollars while the Gaza people are starving. The subterranean tunnel constructed by Muhammad Sinwar. This is the Sinwar project tunnel that was meant to do a terror attack. Hamas has spent millions of dollars in this project specifically. Here is another beneficiary, five million shekels. Roughly $1.5 million were found in suitcases in the home of a senior Hamas official in the neighborhood of Jibalia along with ammunition and rocket launchers, terror tunnels and ammunition. This is what the money was used for, but those in charge did not see it. We wanted to avoid a humanitarian disaster. That's why the money started flowing for those purposes, to avoid disease and maintain the two million people there. The plan that looked so good for five years crushed down on October 7th. Instead of avoiding a humanitarian disaster, it brought one first on the Israeli side of the border and then in Gaza. So many questions will have to be asked once the war is over. The issue of the humanitarian money funding this terror monster is one of the most important. Shai, when you look at this piece and you see what the Qataris did to try to help, I mean by the Israeli state we're trying to help fix the problem that's happening. Gaza turned out that they're building subway tunnels. Yeah. What about post-war? I mean any student of American history knows that during World War II, the US government put together the Marshall Plan to make sure that post-war Germany and post-war Europe was rebuilt. At this point, the amount of money that was spent to Gaza even before the war began outweighs what the US spent to rebuild all of Europe after World War II. So now what? What happens post-war? This is, if I may say, the $1 million questions. What will be the day after? And I think at the moment we share the same strategic goal with the US administration. We must eliminate Hamas and bring back all the hostages. But this is for the immediate time. But what about the day after? And then I think, and there are some publications about it, it's going to be a huge confrontation with the US administration because President Biden has a vision. Because he thinks that he understands that the war between, as I said before, that the war between Israel and Hamas is much bigger than only between Israel and Hamas. It actually has a regional implications. This is why he thinks that he has the chance to build something new in the Middle East, to unite all the moderate Arab countries, and maybe to make a normalization with Saudi Arabia. But there is one crucial condition, rebuild the Palestinian arena as a whole, and rebuild Gaza. And it seems so simplistic to just say, OK, we're just going to hold it. Of course. It's very difficult because what will be the role of the Palestinian Authority? There is no doubt, as President Biden said, revitalize Palestinian Authority. It must change. But before October 7, everyone was talking, or a lot of people was thinking, that we might bring a normalization with Saudi Arabia and bypassing the Palestinian issue. It seems at the moment that it won't happen. Well, Hamas made a point of saying that one of the reasons they attacked October 7 was because they felt they were being shut out. Exactly. Because what is the meaning of the normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia? It's actually a new Middle East. Actually, it's against the radical exit, led by Iran, supported by Russia, and of course, Hezbollah, and Hamas. This was one of the main targets of Hamas. And therefore, our Gaza and the Palestinian Authority as a whole will be built, might influence the whole Middle East. I keep saying it all the time. It's not only a question of the issue of the Israel-Palestinian conflict. There is a much-bordering implications for this war. Yeah, but that means, OK, so let's talk it out, right? Let's game this out. So it ends. There's a ceasefire. Maybe, maybe the Emirates and Saudi Arabia come in to Gaza and they help clean it up, right? There's a big cleanup effort almost the way that the Americans came in to Europe after World War II and rebuilt most of Germany, most of France. Is that the way to go in a very simplistic way? Is it just about rebuilding? No, no, no, of course not. They will not come as my assessment, of course. Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Egypt, and other players in the Middle East and also in the international community will not be willing to come and to be involved in the Palestinian arena. If they don't understand what is going, what will be the future if there is some kind of horizon? Not in a year or two, of course. President Biden is keep talking all the time about the two-state solution. I think he knows very well as we do. We are not talking about something that can be achieved in a year or two. It's something that might be, might be, in five, 10 years from now. But you have to put some goal for the long run. And if they don't understand, they, I mean, Saudi Arabia, Emirates, and other players, that there is some kind of hope for a better future for the Palestinian arena, then we are in a big problem. I don't believe, I'm not sure, that they will be willing to contribute or to put a lot of effort into it. So who from does it become then? If they say they don't want to thank you, we are not interested, find somebody else. This is why we must. We must, the Israeli government must think what they, we want the day after to get into negotiation with the US administration, with the Arab states, and trying to formalize, to formalize some kind of a deal, some kind of a plane, not a Marshall plane for the Palestinian arena, because it is necessary. If we continue, and at the moment, for my point of view, it seems that, as I said before, there is a confrontation between our Prime Minister Netanyahu sees the things and how President Biden looks at the things. If the confrontation continues, then we might be in a big problem. Furthermore, it might influence the legitimacy from the US to continue the war, because what we say to us, okay, if you don't know what you want to achieve the day after, how we want to continue with the war, there is a clear cut connection between continuing the war and to know, to dream what you want to achieve the day after. Great, thank you so much, Dr. Shai. Har Sivir, the senior fellow for the Institute for Policy and Strategy for Reikman. He's also the former acting director general for the Ministry of Teaching Affairs. Thank you very much. Thank you so much for joining us. You know, October 7th was supposed to be a celebration of peace and love, but instead became a background of Israel's darkest day. Months later, the survivors of the Nova Festival have brought a very moving display to Tel Aviv. It's to raise awareness about the Hamas attack. It ends tomorrow in Tel Aviv, but it'll be brought to New York. Next, our producer Fabio Shapiro reports. 629, October 7th, it was the dawn of the day that never ended. The Nova Rave, held adjacent to the Gaza Strip, was suddenly stopped by a different music. The sound of sirens, announcing the Hamas attack. From land and air, perpetrating the deadliest terror attack in Israeli history, murdering 364 civilians at the rave alone and kidnapping 40 others. We were quite close to the borders, unfortunately, and this community that has around 10,000 members was the biggest community that was hit. Third of all the victims, the murdered victims from the 7th of October are coming from the party, almost 400 people, and the number is still rising. There are still hostages. Now we saw that Hamas keep murdering people in captivity, and some of them are dancers in the party. And this is how my life has been going on for the last three months, notifying the death of my friend, finding out new information about how they died, and notifying new information about how my friends escaped from this area. At the Expo Tel Aviv, the reminders of a fateful day. Straw mats, tents, hammocks, all retrieved from the place of the massacre. The Nova 6.9 exhibit takes you back to that morning, October 7th. So you can feel even if a little bit, as if you were there, this large expo center becomes a memento to the victims of that festival. All the objects you can see here, they were retrieved as they were left in Kibbutz-Le'im. Portable toilets, riddled with bullets, cars burned down. This is the result of Hamas' killing spree. This exhibition was made because Kibbutz-Le'iri and Kibbutz-Neroz, the villages around Gaza, they have something to show. They can show the world. This is what was done for us. And we had nothing. Our parties are being built and assembled in around five hours. So we decided we're gonna rebuild it here. And we're gonna add to it the burnt cars of our friends. Even one of the burnt cars here is the one I rode to this party. And the bathroom cells with the shooting guns, everything we could have shown to the world because we have to explain it. We were in such a big high for this party. We were in such a good place at 628. And at 629, my whole world collapsed. The earth was just blanked around my feet and everyone else in this party. 3,500 people were there. 15% were murdered. And this exhibition is there to show what happened to us and to show who is the Nova community and what we stand for. The lost and found area is filled with the shoes, clothes, bags and other items from the thousands of participants of the rave who had to leave all behind in the hope of surviving the massacre. An image that alludes to the millions of personal items left by the Jews during the Holocaust. An image that impacts all visitors. For me, it's really emotional to be here. My best friend was murdered in the party. He had a painting store. So we painted all the night and then many people came to see his painting. In the end, he tried to get out and escape and him and the other best friend they were murdered in the car. I think this presentation is amazing. It's really make people feel what they felt and to feel what they are being going through in this terrible, terrible time when the attack appeared. So it's like a small taste of what happened. Once more, we are presented with the harsh reality. Another event scarred in Jewish history to be forever recalled. So it may never happen again. So the pain may give place to joy and love. So we may one day dance again. Well, a recent uptick in anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic fuel violence in the United States. Israeli MMA fighter Natan Levi gave a free self-defense seminar at Brooklyn's Jewish Community Center, our senior US correspondent, Mike Wagenheim reports. Natan Levi proudly carries the banner for Israel into the octagon as a mixed martial arts fighter. But he wants to make sure in a time of heightened anti-Semitism that all Jews can fight for themselves. This week in a gym atop a Jewish Community Center in Brooklyn, Levi provided a free seminar for those who look like they've been in a fight before and those who may be throwing their first punch. I wanted to teach them some self-defense moves, but mostly I wanted to inspire them to keep training because one hour of training is not gonna help enough. It could help, it might help, but one hour is just not enough. You need to train regularly, you need to be strong, you need to be fit, you need to have knowledge of the techniques, you need a strong mind. So for me today was, you know, give them a taste of training and inspire them to keep training. Levi provided instructions on a proper fighting stance, punching techniques, keeping would-be attackers at arm's length and defending yourself once someone is within close range. Levi told us it's time every Jew gets prepared to fight should the situation call for it. Yeah, I feel like if we're dependent on, you know, are they gonna hate us? Are they not gonna hate us? You want to be self-reliant, it doesn't matter if they hate us or do not, right now they do. So might as well be ready to fight, be ready to defend ourselves and our families, our close ones. This is the whole point for something that there is nothing to, you know, be ashamed about being a Jewish, being Israeli. For me it's about making Israelis stronger, Jewish communities stronger, and usually the bullies, which this is what they are, they are bullies, they are cowards, usually when somebody stands up to them, to them they fall. Reporting from Brooklyn, Mike Wagenheim, I-24 News. So important for the Americans to understand what is happening there and try to protect themselves. You're looking at the top of your screen right now. This is for Israelis watching. This is hostile intrusion into the northern part of Israel. We'll be getting more details as they come available between upper part of the screen. This is now the northern section of Israel. You can get the very latest here on the war, on I-24 News. Look for those news alerts on your app on the I-24 News.tv website, also on the I-24 News app. I'm Robert Lewits reporting from Tel Aviv. The news continues after the break. Israel is in a state of war. Families completely gunned down in their beds. We have no idea where she is. Our soldiers are fighting on the front lines, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. Yo soy Nicole Michel y esta es una emisión especial de News 24 en español dedicada a la guerra, espadas de hierro. Derechos humanos y antisemitismo no son compatibles en un estado democrático de derecho en el mundo y en menos y menos en Chile. De ahí que en el mes de marzo de 2023 en Chile se presentó el proyecto de ley que incorpora el antisemitismo como una categoría discriminatoria contraria a los derechos humanos en Chile. Por eso nos entiende cómo una banda musical español llamada SCAP-P, ante miles de fanáticos en Santiago, programaban en su canción intifada que Palestina está sufriendo en el exilio de la opulencia de Israel por un gobierno prepotente preparado para la guerra por tu, ya sabes, quien. La misma banda que tenía que tocar en Munich, Alemania, no les dieron permiso para interpretar esa canción discriminatoria para con los judíos en Alemania. Los miembros del grupo fueron advertidos de que podrían ser detenidos ya que la canción incitaba la violencia. La canción intifada es de contenido pro-Palestino y la amenaza de la detención es porque las autoridades alemanas prohíben la apología contra el antisemitismo. Los miembros de SCAP-P dijeron en su defensa ser anticionistas y no ser antisemitas. Exactamente. Y estamos en tierra santa y a pesar de que en Israel estas navidades son una parte importante para la versión cristiana, nosotros vamos a hablar ahora algo que tiene que ver con el cristianismo, con el antisemitismo y con Israel, y para eso tenemos como invitado a Daniel Farkash, que ha escrito un libro que se llama... Se llama... El pogrom más horrible de la historia. Cuéntanos, exactamente, cuéntanos qué ha significado escribir este libro justamente sobre el 7 de octubre por cómo se ubica un pogrom en el siglo XXI. La verdad es que yo tuve la experiencia en Chile de ser parlamentario, de ocupar muchos cargos importantes y tengo una visión acerca de que en determinada forma y de una manera muy concreta, cuando la ola de antisemitismo parte es muy difícil pararla. Y me da la sensación después de la respuesta que tuvimos en el mundo acerca del 7 de octubre que estamos en un problema. Y por qué yo lo identifico como el pogrom más grande de la historia porque desde la salida de Auschwitz que no teníamos un día en donde fueron asesinados tantos judíos y porque el modo operandi, lamentablemente y por desgracia que utilizó jamás, era con el objeto de hacer daño, de generar terror y de provocar con el sadismo una sensación térmica de aniquilamiento. Y eso es muy parecido a lo que hacían los nazis y en ese sentido creo que cabe colocarlo como un pogrom, efectivamente. Ahora bien, vos hablás del 7 de octubre y de lo que ha venido pasando después o solamente de ese día? Yo primero hago en el libro una pequeña reseña acerca del Islam y de sus puntos conflictivos con el judaísmo particularmente aquellos en los cuales Mahoma expulsa una tribu después hace matar a los hombres mayores de 14 años y manda como esclavos y esclavas a los niños y a las mujeres y también reseño, a propósito de nuestro amigo Miguel Stoyer más la experiencia positiva que hay de confreteneanche islami... Hay que decir que Miguel Stoyerman es el director de la radio Jai que transmite de Argentina a todo el mundo. Así es, muy importante. Y básicamente luego hago una reseña que son los pogrom una triste y lamentable historia que nos ha acompañado por mucho tiempo que tiene que ver con también una situación que provocó en el gobierno de Los Ares una dinámica de persecución, robos, violación y generación de daño particularmente a los judíos no solo a los judíos, pero particularmente a los judíos por los Cossacos y que después fue repetida por desgracia en muchas otras partes de Alemania o de Oeste particularmente. Fíjate tú que el embajador de Israel en Naciones Unidas en hace pocas semanas había sacado en la misma sede la foto del Mufti de Jerusalén y ya que tocabas mucho el tema también del Islán como el Mufti en aquellos tiempos que se había reunido con Hitler Exactamente. Incitaba, le decía, no los traigas que no lleguen aquí y los incitaba y decía quemarlos, matarlos y quemarlos o sea es como que una historia después de más de 70 años casi 80 se repite de eso. Exactamente, exactamente. Y los pogrom que hubo a partir de la actitud que tuvo el Mufti de Jerusalén fueron realmente espantosos tanto en Jerusalén con otras partes de Israel obviamente y costaron muchas vidas y particularmente tenían esta lógica de no solamente violaciones y la cosa que tiene que ver con el robo y el pillaje sino que también con hacernos sentir de que no teníamos ningún tipo de defensa y esa es yo creo la sensación que jamás quería lograr y en parte creo que por de gracia en algún momento la tuvimos y hoy ya estamos recuperando esa capacidad de defenderlo. Hola, yo quiero llevar esto un poco a lo que pasa, por ejemplo, en Chile de donde vos sos originario hemos visto que en Chile hay distintas páginas que tienen que ver con el apoyo a Palestina pero hay una en particular que además de el apoyo a Palestina se llama a Palestina hoy que lo único que hace es agrandar y intensificar la acción del jamás ¿Cómo explicarle a la situación de los mayores de los palestinos que hay en Chile que en tiendas son cristianos? ¿Que no van juntos una cosa con la otra? ¿De qué manera se puede enfrentar esto? Bueno, primero que nada por de gracia no solamente un problema de Chile lo vimos con las universidades más importantes americanas en un show de garrador sobre tres rectoras obviamente una vergüenza para la academia pero esto se ha repetido en otras partes del mundo justamente con la excepción de que ustedes nombraban de Alemania que en unos países que tienen una legislación más rigurosa con respecto al antisemitismo ¿Sí? Vamos a contarlo de Chile porque yo creo que es una cosa que la mayoría de la gente no sabe estos palestinos generalmente vienen de Bellales y otros pueblos que sí estaban en lo que en aquel momento era Palestina pero no salen en 1947 o 48 arrancando o por decisión propia de la creación del estado de Israel sino que lo hacen en 1918-1920 mucho antes particularmente por dos razones primero porque no querían que sus hijos hicieran el servicio militar en el imperio turco-tomano cosa que también muchas familias judías trataban de evitar para hacer justos en la historia y segundo porque no estaban dispuestos a pagar los impuestos gigantescos que el imperio turco-tomano estableció en Palestina y en otras partes de sus dominios entonces decidieron llegar a Chile hoy día algunos dicen que son 500.000 hay un estudio del profesor Michael Ehrlich que de la Universidad de Maryland que en realidad llega la conclusión de que más de 50.000 no pueden ser y yo creo que existe una situación muy compleja porque ¿Quién se define como palestino? Resulta, y es usted lo saben bien que los únicos refugiados del mundo cuyos hijos y nietos son creados son los palestinos todos los refugiados del mundo incluidos los refugiados judios de los países árabes para qué hablar solamente las primeras generaciones tienen que ser absorbidos por los distintos países entonces hay una situación extrañísima y estos palestinos a mi juicio no solamente forman nada sino forman digamos lo bastante poco inteligente porque ellos serían perseguidos en Gaza y serían perseguidos en otras partes del medio oriente y algunos de ellos por ejemplo los que son comunistas o los que son gay para qué hablar pero no entienden o no quieren ver o el odio del antisemitismo es cada vez más fuerte y hay una cosa ahí que se entremezcla en Chile además que tiene que ver con otras partes del mundo también que es una línea del Partido Comunista por lo que hace en Chile existe una cosa anacrónica que es un Partido Comunista bastante importante con parlamentarios y con ministros que yo creo que uno de los pocos ejemplos en el mundo y en la línea del Partido Comunista y de la izquierda en general yo creo que esa otra grande excepción a partir del 7 de octubre ha sido más tapable pero lo más paradójico es que hay judíos que visitan el club palestino en Santiago y hay judíos que van al club palestino y hay negocios entre ellos es verdad y entonces cada vez menos cada vez menos y cada vez porque sí porque yo lo digo en términos generales de mis amigos o mi familia incluso hay hay algunas todavía sociedad exitosa que bien que así sea pero en general la desconfianza y el antisemitismo a partir de las redes por ejemplo que cuando alguna amiga o amigo vera que están publicando los otros en el Facebook o en Instagram o en TikTok o en lo que sea uno llega a la conclusión de que ese no puede seguir siendo mi amigo o mi amiga y y cortan las relaciones y cortan las relaciones nos quedan dos minutos y pico para redondear un tema que pasa con los distintos gobiernos que hay en Chile porque esta situación no es nueva ha habido los presidentes anteriores ahora con Boris los gobiernos hacen algo para de alguna manera restituir o mantener la relación entre ambas comunidades mira yo me senté cuatro años con Boris que al lado porque mi bancada terminaba justo en la bancada de el fuiste diputado de que partido partido por la democracia vendía haciendo un partido bueno derecha izquierda centro izquierda centro izquierda ok muy bien nos quedan dos minutos entonces lo que pasa es que el el chantaje de la comunidad palestina con los votos que ellos dicen tener que a mi juicio no son ciertos hace que muchos presidentes y parlamentarios se vean inclinados a hacerlo ahora digamos también las cosas como son el presidente Sebastián Piñera que derecha visitó dos veces Israel y incentivó todo tipo de negocios con Israel y la presidenta de Chile con quien yo también trabajé en su primer gobierno estableció muchos negocios con Israel y Chile sigue a pesar de todo esto lo más increíble es que Chile sigue comprando todo el armamento en Israel sigue comprando todo lo que tiene que ver con el tema aero espacial con Israel entonces como pasaba con Pinochet y todo hay como una línea discotómica entre el discurso de odio y de discriminación y lo que efectivamente hacen bueno nosotros en principio vamos a recomendar tu libro para que cuando esté visible o está en internet también si está en Amazon o en otras portales ahí está lo vamos a recomendar te agradecemos enormemente que hayas venido a nuestro canal y es un tema para llamar la atención a todo el mundo porque importar a Sudamérica un programa una imagen como esta que Jesús era palestino que nació en Belén no nos parece algo muy natural esa canta identidad ahora muy natural más en un día como el de hoy en el que estamos festejando la navidad o no puede reír eso y orar no sabemos lo que hacer agradecemos enormemente por haber venido a nuestro programa muchas gracias muchas gracias a ustedes después de la guerra de Iyom Kippur faltaban manos para poder cosechar y trabajar en los Kibutsin y ese soy yo que vine como voluntario Israel a cortar naranjas se llamaba Plantapuz y estuve dos meses trabajando en Kibutsin bueno Carlos te ves muy buen mozo te da pelo hoy el programa para traer hemos traído voluntarios a Israel es un programa fantástico que se llama Taglit en estos tiempos difíciles en los que está pasando Israel contamos con dos de los miembros de este grupo que vino de Sudamérica Natalia Goodman bienvenida Uruguaya de 23 años y Shaul Dabab de 24 años de Argentina muchísimas gracias gracias por estar con nosotros en I24 news comencemos por Natalia a ver yo pasé dos meses cortando naranjas pero como fue tu decisión de venir y sumarte el programa de Taglit bueno en realidad veía el antisemitismo y veía toda la guerra y bueno yo siento que los judíos en todo el mundo tenemos una conexión muy grande con esta tierra y con la gente como hay una unión muy grande y sentía necesidad de hacer algo y así asoará en las redes y esas cosas pero cuando me enteré de esto que fue dos semanas antes de venir a Israel dije lo voy a hacer y estoy muy feliz con la decisión y en tu caso y lo mismo desde que empezó sentí una impotencia muy grande podíamos hacer pequeñas cositas pero siempre quise hacer algo con mis manos con mi cuerpo porque al fin y al cabo aunque vivamos en otro lugar en Argentina en Uruguay nuestra tierra es ésta y nuestra gente es ésta y queremos que lo mismo sea para el futuro para nuestros hijos bueno les pregunto Natalia también a ti Jaúl que ha significado recorrer para ustedes Israel que es algo fantástico porque del camino se van descubriendo muchas cosas cuéntame muy fuerte en realidad en este momento ver Israel es muy fuerte hay mucho dolor pero también hay mucha resiliencia yo pensé que me iba a encontrar con un Israel muy triste y también lo estoy viendo pero también estoy viendo un Israel muy fuerte donde todos queremos ayudar donde todos queremos colaborar obviamente desde el dolor pero también desde el amor exactamente Jaúl lo mismo también creo que hoy más que nunca yo he vivido acá unos años no entiendo mucho la política del país la verdad porque no soy de acá pero vi que en su momento en las elecciones por ejemplo el pueblo no está tan unido pero hoy en día creo que lo veo más unido que nunca uno ayuda al compañero al prójimo y al final del cabo al final de la jornada sacan una sonrisa y la verdad que están todos ahora hablemos de la parte importante me explicaban antes que ponían los pepinos en el lugar correcto para que crezcan derechitos y no torcidos a ver contame un poco la experiencia de trabajar la tierra porque no solo has venido Israel sino es que he trabajado la tierra de Israel contarnos es que sí la verdad fueron experiencias únicas pues claramente nunca hicimos este tipo de cosas como por ejemplo cortar malezas en piñedos bueno ayudar a que los pepinos crezcan pero que los pepinos crecen solos pero se ve que yo esto claramente no lo sabía pero se ve que hay que ponerles como que hay que enredarlos para que salgan derechos y bueno además de eso también hicimos cajas de comida para gente que está desplazada hoy de mañana hicimos sándwiches para Jaya Lim para los soldados en tu caso también con los pepinos el mismo programa lo mismo pero entendemos y así nos dijeron que falta comida en los supermercados el problema no es que no hay comida la comida está sí las hay en los campos y en los lugares como los que fuimos pero no hay gente que lo coseche que lo mantenga y que lo llega hasta el supermercado entonces venimos a hacer eso venimos a ayudar con nuestras manos y hacer como dijo ella sacarlo pomelos del árbol sacar las malezas de los piñedos y este tipo de cosas que bueno como dije antes con nuestro granito de verina para que haya más comida en las mesas de los israelí nosotros vamos a poner ahora una foto que yo vi que en este caso está Natalia esta que está detrás mío en este caso y que también se ve ahí donde vos te sacaste una foto como si vos fuese una de los tantos secuestrados que tiene Israel que se siente en ese momento la verdad es que mucha angustia mucha angustia porque porque es lo que decimos siempre podrías haber sido cualquiera de nosotros la pues cualquiera de nosotros podría haber estado en el festival cualquiera de nosotros podría haber estado en el kibbutz y también a mí me parece importante que la gente que no está tan adentrada en este tema entienda que podría haber sido cualquiera de nosotros como nuestros familiares nuestros amigos que entiendan que fue indiscriminado no no el target fue indiscriminado y es importante que conscienticemos de esa manera como y ustedes que traen de de lo que hablan y sienten la juventud latinoamericana en Uruguay en Argentina de lo que ha pasado aquí esa empatía que puede sentir un joven latinoamericano uruguayo aún hacia los jóvenes israelis que pasaron esta tragedia en realidad en latinoamerica está viendo muchos movimientos en contra de Israel basados en disinformación en disinformación asociada por sea canales de noticias o información a medias también porque mucho se usa la información a medias en canales de noticias organizaciones en Uruguay ahora está viendo marchas pero palestina todo el tiempo ya que se debe a que crees tú que se debe de la desinformación falta todavía hay mucha desinformación pero también hay mucho odio está es un odio que está muy metido dentro de nuestras sociedades y a mí a mí me cuesta mucho verlo por ejemplo el otro día una marcha feminista en Uruguay y el eslogan era por palestina y se tiraban en el piso y se tapaban los cuerpos y después o una vez estaban repartiendo folletos sobre los mapitas los famosos mapas verdes y yo les digo están diciendo cosas erróneas que solo nos perjudican a nosotros y no les importa no les importa en el caso de argentina en el caso de argentina hay marchas pero hay la gente no entiende a que marcha muchas veces pasa eso hay gente tal vez que contrata a esas personas para que vayan a marchar a contrata en el sentido de que les dice vayan y actúen y no tienen ni idea no tienen ni idea ni palestina ni jamás porque son dos cosas hay videos con la bandera de palestina con la bandera de jamás y le preguntan a favor de que pasas para que estás acá y no pueden responder eso es lo que estaba diciendo ella falta desinformación última pregunta para los dos empezamos contigo que les dirías a tus amigos si un día dicen ok me ofrecen la posibilidad de venir a taglit que les dirías y justamente esto hablaba ayer con un amigo mío me dice me parece que el año que viene quiero ir que opinas y le dije esperemos que la guerra nos siga que termine todo acá y que las cosas vuelvan a la normalidad pero creo que te vas a sentir lleno con este programa de taglit vas a poder hacer de verdad algo con tu cuerpo y con tus manos como dije antes vas a poder ayudar a tus hermanos vas a poder ayudar a tu tierra y hacer dar nuestro lento de arena para que la tierra perdure y los israelí perduren muy bien totalmente totalmente de acuerdo y agradezco tener organizaciones de este tipo agradezco por nosotros y agradezco por Israel para poder conectar de esta manera y se lo recomiendo a todo el que tenga chance de venir se lo recomiendo porque son planes que están muy bien hechos muy bien diseñados para conocer Israel para ayudar lo que sea y me parece hermoso como vieron ya yo bien en el 76 y todavía siguen durando estos planes lo que es muy bueno ahora en la pantalla aparece el lugar a donde los que quieran inscribirse puedan hacerlo y a ustedes esperemos que los pepinos salgan derecho salgan todos torcidos porque si no para decir que los que vinieron de Sudamérica no sabían como plantarlo pero bueno no saben como plantar pepino ahi esta pero bueno muchas gracias por haber venido a nuestro estudio y esperemos que esta actividad que ustedes han hecho tenga continuación en el futuro muchas gracias muchas gracias muchas gracias a ustedes estamos en tierra santa y a pesar que Israel este en guerra a las navidades es parte importante de la población árabe cristiana queremos llevarles un mensaje optimista a ustedes que nos miran siempre mi compañera Nikol visitó Jerusalem es el cine con ciertamente Carlos me vestí de dos colores para este reportaje en Jerusalem rojo por la navidad negro por el luto que vivimos en tiempos de guerra la navidad en Israel tiempos ahi difíciles para despedir un 2023 oscuro y recibir un 2024 lleno de esperanza en el barrio cristiano de jerusalem se siente la navidad las tiendas como cada año venden adornos que visten el lar volver de depino las monjas filipinas que habitan en jerusalem nos guían el camino para el santo sepulcro en Israel viven aproximadamente 182.000 cristianos árabes san juan bautista de las ayin y en a finales del siglo XVII fundó el instituto de los hermanos de las escuelas cristianas los niños árabes israelíes recurren las callejuelas del barrio con plena libertad la que merece la inocencia que sabe más que nadie del amor incondicional como representa la esencia de jesus para el mundo cristiano el santo sepulcro en jerusalem el calvario las llamas siempre encendidas el lugar donde se afirma que jesus murió y al tercer día resucitó la loza de piedra venerada como lugar de descanso de jesus peregrinos cristianos que se arrodillan para venerar el amor del judío jesus todos somos hermanos nos une la cultura judeo cristiana para tener paz hay que tener voluntad creer que se puede y se podrá en el camino conocí a jardin darry una chica israelí con un entrañable mensaje saladino religioso griego ortodoxo que habita justo al frente del santo sepulcro nos regala su simpatía y buena energía y como parte de la magia de jerusalem una fable musulman y su deseo abed we need peace shalom salam inshallah inshallah jerusalem enigma de las tres femonoteístas y llegamos al muro de los lamentos conocí al ravino brasileño dudu levinson sus palabras son proféticas yo creo que estamos viviendo una época muy especial ahora en este año que está entrando 2024 porque todo el mundo está un lío muy grande guerras en muchas partes y las personas justamente por eso están muy muy sedentas para contenido como la cabalá que es la parte mística de la torah nos explica cuando hay una escuridad muy fuerte es en ese momento que nace una nueva luz entonces aún que hay muchas cosas tristes pasando en el mundo ese es el momento para que las personas van a unir van a estar juntas para hacer cosas buenas y traer la paz en el mundo yo de verdad creo que la paz va a venir justo ahora como se dice un dicho judaico muy lindo hay corazones de piedras y hay piedras que lloran yo creo que es el lugar justamente por ser un lugar que une todas las religiones del mundo cristianismo judaismo islamismo y todas las partes diferentes del mundo acá va a empezar la paz la paz para israel para palestina donde la respetuosa convivencia sea la mejor herencia para nuestros hijos desde ay 24 news para el mundo adios 2023 bienvenido 2024 muchas gracias thank you merci boku obrigado shukran yasila todahaba bueno es el momento de decirle a toda nuestra audiencia que tengan una feliz navidad que se leven votos para que el próximo año sea un año de paz no cierto claro que si feliz navidad a todo el mundo que siempre nos se conectan aquí con nosotros la semana que viene los quiere claro que si calio hasta la próxima in a state of war families completely gun down in their beds we have no idea where is she the soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well we're seeing the first generation of solar panels now being recycled what's exciting is we're at the forefront what is about to happen is a tsunami of solar panels coming back into the supply chain security and military officials have acknowledged the intelligence failures that allowed Hamas to plan and execute the October 7th attacks but new details have emerged in a report from the New York Times describing how Hamas financed its activities with a portfolio of investments a financial network that the newspaper says Israel's leaders were aware of but did not shut down with more here's our correspondent Robert Swift as early as 2015 Israeli and US officials became aware of a network of companies that not only funded Hamas but were owned and controlled by it an empire that was worth an estimated half a billion dollars while organizations like ISIS and Al Qaeda have frequently used fronts to launder money Hamas's portfolio was a genuine enterprise launched with seed money to go out to make a profit the New York Times reports it reportedly included mining, chicken farming building firms in Sudan two skyscrapers in the United Arab Emirates a property developer in Algeria and trend a real estate company listed on the Turkish stock exchange an Israeli financial intelligence team Task Force Harpoon began tracking the investments flagging up their concerns to US counterparts and the Israeli cabinet but the threat from Iran and the finances it distributed to its proxies Hamas among them ultimately eclipsed fears over the Hamas portfolio and at the time the Israeli security services consensus was that money flowing into Gaza would help tame Hamas rather than arming it for the next attack a strategy led by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu regarding this published investigation I am not familiar with it and I suggest you wait until after the war a thorough examination and a thorough investigation of all these things will be done and the picture will become clearer while there were some sanctions placed on businesses and individuals in 2022 ultimately the flow of money from it was not disrupted money that Israeli intelligence assesses was directly invested into Hamas' military preparations cyber attack directed against Iran over the past day the backer of the Houthis of course may indicate that Israel is also now seeking its own indirect response to address this issue our correspondent Robert Swift has more in this report as much as 70% of the petrol stations across Iran were disrupted Monday with Iranian authorities citing a possible cyber attack as the cause some people say it was hacked some people say well we wonder if maybe there is a shortage but these are all questions that need to be answered by a high-ranking authority Iranian state media singled out hacking group predatory sparrow as responsible it has been linked by Israeli media in the past to unit 8200 Israel's signals intelligence agency this cyber attack comes in response to the aggression of the Islamic Republic and its proxies in the region the hacker said in a statement in Persian and English on telegram the incident occurs as Israel's allies search for an appropriate response to Houthi attacks against cargo ships passing the Babel Mandab Strait this is a battle against the Iranian Axis Iranian Axis of terror which is now threatening to close the maritime Strait of Babel Mandab this threatens the freedom of navigation of the entire world so in the Red Sea we're leading a multinational maritime task force to uphold the bedrock principle of freedom of navigation Iran's support for Houthi attacks on commercial vessels must stop part of Iran's network of proxies the Yemen based group says it will attack any ships approaching Israeli ports while fighting in Gaza continues its drone and missile attacks have escalated in the last week causing numerous shipping lines to cancel voyages through the Red Sea placing a squeeze on the economies of Israel and neighbouring countries like Egypt as well as international energy markets a cyber attack may be an efficient means for Israel to reach into Iran in response to the Houthi actions on its southern front the question is whether its impact will be sufficient to alter the Yemeni group's behaviour let's talk about Alina Tovenberg a makeup artist and a body painter that is known for her UV body paints and on October 7th she found herself on the front line during the Hamas attack at the Nova Festival near the Gaza border I24 News reporter Uri Shapira brings her story Alina Tovenberg didn't believe in divine intervention until October 7th for years she's worked as a makeup artist and body painter working at the Nova Festival was only natural for her we came to the field on Thursday and stayed for the entire weekend we decided to stay at Nova I was attracted to the wonderful people who came there the perfect place and the unique atmosphere in the air so I decided to stay at 6.20am we saw this amazing sunrise I was just finishing painting Eleanor my last painting I gave her a hug and a kiss and went on dancing on the floor everybody was waiting for the sunrise 15 minutes earlier my partner Tomer gave me a glass of tea and told me that he wanted to go to the car because he was tired it seemed very strange to me because he never acts like that but in retrospect this is what for me resembled the first miracle that happened to me I looked to the horizon and I saw heavy smoke very dark to see the smoke inside this beautiful place felt very strange to me and I immediately closed my makeup kit suddenly we started to hear booms the music was still on we could hear the bits but we heard the shooting mixed with the trance music after 3-4 minutes they shut down the music and the chaos began it was a sharp transition people were at their peak and suddenly everything was shut down and you find yourself in a war at a certain point Alina's partner could not start his car the group found itself in a survivor scenario we split into two areas in one place I took care of girls who were in panic in the other spot Tomer tried to fix the car he asked his brother to bring people to help and he got a call from his brother and heard that he'd been shot Tomer understood that there were terrorists in the area he managed to find someone who helped him fix the car this angel is not with us today we drove like crazy to Kibbutz Reyim a black truck tried to crash into us but Tomer managed to escape it was another miracle it was a matter of seconds then we managed to get to Reyim God opened the gate for us Alina says that everyone she's painted at night survived one of the people Alina remembers the most is a young woman named Elinor who Elina painted when the Hamas attack began Elinor hid inside the fridge and survived this short soundtrack we hear the moments of horror when Elinor saying goodbye to her eight year old son I painted on Elinor, an image of a woman full of light and hope more than two months after October 7 Lina took part in an exhibition in Tel Aviv dedicated to the Nova Rave she rebuilt the boot where she walked at that night I remember every painting I made that night each painting I made that night became a part of me it became a part of my family a part of my story there is Alina and there is my art and there is this night and this night laid down roots now we turn to the story of Ofir Engel one of 110 Hamas hostages that were released from captivity last month now he's attempting to return as best he can to his normal life but the events of October 7 and almost two months in captivity in Gaza still haunt him here's his story adapted from Local Channel 12 the romantic trip of these two teenagers Ofir Engel and his friend Yuval Sharabi to Belgrade on time for Christmas season to see his favorite basketball team Hapuel Jerusalem is accompanied with immense distress 18-year-old Ofir was released from Gaza two weeks ago but Yuval's father and uncle remain in Hamas captivity how does it feel to fly right now? exciting but weird a little Yuval? a little because dad is still there yes, we miss them so much they're probably in the tunnel or in a house dad Black Saturday Ofir, a 12th grade student from Kibbutz Ramat Rahel near Jerusalem was with 17-year-old Yuval in Beiri during the sirens the two together with Yuval's parents and two sisters entered the safe room it was 10 in the morning when the terrorists broke in and what do you see? three terrorists enter with guns two with guns one with an RPG first thing they shoot the dog shoot the dog first they're very afraid of dogs and then just take us all downstairs are they speaking with you? in Arabic, they say to you Mahfishi Israel had a Palestine and there they got us all up they took us to the road and a black car was just waiting there there's a black car waiting for us they motioned in, opening the door her father, Yossi, went in first and then she and I held hands she's already getting in her foot inside already then they take her out and put me in are the women just taken out? no, they just leave them with the other two terrorists this is the last image I have in my memory of them are you yelling anything to him? I told him I love you did you hear? yes did you answer? no, we were already driving away what I remember is the red eyes fear, shock because you don't understand what's going on you see her with two terrorists and in captivity you think she is either dead or kidnapped there is no other option, logically and you don't hear anything in captivity about Yuval nothing, nothing two terrorists, what are they doing with you? the two terrorists just walked away what's going on in the car? they just take us to Gaza the person sitting in front has a weapon aimed at us like this oh really? yes Ophir was kidnapped together with Yossi his father and a neighbor, 16 year old Amit Shani 54 days in captivity they saw no other hostages Ophir stayed close to his girlfriend's father and Yuval's father calms you down? yes, he reassured us but obviously everyone is scared so it's calming only for a moment what do you do all day? play cards I can't look at another card what did you play? a game they taught us are the terrorists also playing with you? yes I don't know I figured I'd be back sometime yes I was less afraid that they would kill me because if they wanted to kill me they probably would have killed me on the first day and they wouldn't care about bringing food what food really? there was no food what did you eat? a pita and a half a pita and a half a day? in the morning, yes, with Labanik so what scared you? from the booms around the gulf doesn't know our location suddenly a missile would hit fear of death a house near us was bombed it sounded like it hit ours one of the guards was informed that a relative of his had been killed you say to yourself just as long as it doesn't come back at us just don't come back at us Ophir's most difficult moments were when terrorists moved them twice through the heart of the city when they were completely exposed in total darkness when all around non-stop explosions when they transferred you it was always overnight do you see Gazans? obviously yes, it was a terrible fear how would you know who's going to turn on you? do you think they care? no they don't care about each other you know some extremist would kill me and the Hamasnik with me and did anyone come see you? they had their boss who would come and bring food once every two days who would bring a packet of pita bread whatever you eat you eat in these three days did he say anything to you? he would come and tell us again that they don't want us and all that he was the main one who was psychologically abusing us did you make a connection with one of them that was more pleasant? the one who guarded us was a bit better didn't he say something like death to the Jews? yes, he did say that they know nothing other than that did you try to explain to him say what do you want from me? I'm a kid from Israel so he told them a hundred times they said why are you in Israel? why did your family come to Israel? what did you answer? I told him my grandfather was born here then he tells me you're lying, you're lying why would I lie? so I just said yes should I argue with him? do you see Sinoir? no, where? they told me this is Sinoir when they told me you are returning to Israel he pointed at someone he said this is Sinoir but he was so fat and didn't even look like him do you believe them when they tell you you are going back the next day? yes, because they look happy and... to get rid of you? yes, we are quite a heavy burden for them what did you say to your father before you separated? nothing we were separated in an instant oh, just like this? yes, just like this I call her and tell her I'm fine, I'm alive everything is good what did she say to me? shave your beard and then call me did you see what he looked like? no, you were excited yes, yes until I saw him with my own eyes I couldn't believe it is there one moment that you cry or did you suddenly fall apart? I asked the soldier on the minibus about Yuval, her mother and her sisters and they told me they were fine everything is well with them I was in shock crying, falling apart? yes, that was the only thing I was worried about I was just shocked that he was there in front of me I collapsed for a second did it surprise you that she suddenly fell to the floor? yes, I think she was also a little shocked Afeer, who played last year on the Yapoel Jerusalem Youth Basketball team is a die-hard fan the team flew him and his family this week for a match against Pau Khte Saloniki in the Champions League so I had this picture for two months on my shirt and he was in every square and to see him come out of all the demonstrations and the pictures and it comes out to something real on the court how do you say it? it's double happiness for us Afeer was locked, trapped in Gaza for almost two months I don't think any of us expected him to be here I don't think his family expected I don't think he expected to see the smile on the face is not only Afeer but his family and to the other families they're here with us as well it moves me a lot Afeer and Yuval's joy at the Pau El Jerusalem's victory at the game and the feeling of freedom in Belgrade is momentary the photos of Yuval's father Yossi and his brother Eli in Gaza never leave their mind now as well though heartbreak in Israel after three hostages were killed in a case of mistaken identity now families demand an immediate deal for the release of those still held by the Hamas terror group these families marched in Tel Aviv demanding an end to the fighting so that negotiations can begin they rejected the idea that military force will bring Hamas to the negotiating table Hamas has vowed that there will be no negotiations until a permanent ceasefire has been reached the position of the Israeli state is that Hamas cannot be allowed to endure as the group has vowed to commit more raids kidnappings and massacres modeled on October 7th that killed 1200 Israelis the overwhelming majority of which were civilians and in the cruelest and most sadistic ways possible it is believed the terrorists still hold 128 hostages spread across Gaza not all of whom are still alive Prime Minister Netanyahu reiterated he will not succumb to Hamas's demands without the military pressure we would not have succeeded in creating an outline that led to the release of 110 hostages and only continued military pressure will lead to the release of all of our hostages my directive to the negotiating team is based on this pressure ceasefire, remove our troops they have all kinds of demands so what do we understand as soon as we give in Hamas has won we are obligated to eliminate it and return our hostages but will not give up either this goal or that goal and of course this is very concerning to the friends and the families of so many hostages still held by the terrorists one such being Amit Parpara the friend of Noah Argamani who is still being held by those terrorists Amit, I'm glad you could be with us there are no words to console you for what you are going through with your friends still in captivity what is your reaction when you hear the Prime Minister say this is not going to force a negotiation First of all thank you for having us for having me here to talk about it I'd say no there's a lot of feelings come up to your head when you think about all the stuff that are coming up in the news but I certainly believe that Israel is trying its best to get out the hostages in the way that they know and I really hope that the what they are doing right now is going to bring them home safely I think just you have to believe in what you see and you have to believe in the government that we'll do everything we can to balance as he said there were so many of us that were hoping and praying that the military action would succeed in freeing hostages on the ground do you still believe that's a realistic opportunity I think it's always the realest opportunity that coming from both ways not just a deal is a deal but on the other side you can never know what is going on on the other side we're dealing with terrorists they're not humans it's not dealing with a country that you know they'll keep the hostages safe they can just run out and bring the hostages back and you can never know what is really happening I think that what happened is something that should concern the government and should concern us as civilians and should bring us our attention to bring it back to hostages as quick as possible but I believe that the government doesn't what it's best to get them there so we've seen a lot of the families that were marching in Tel Aviv demanding an immediate ceasefire to start negotiating right now where do you fall on this discussion what should be done I think I personally believe that the military may be able to free some hostages but it's there and some I think that we should we should we should take out the hostages in the deal I don't know if it's ceasefire hostages I don't know what that really means but I think that taking them out as a whole as a group should be the top priority right now and to release those who are not in any way connected to this war should be the top priority because there's no winning picture without them at home and I think that bringing them on should be doing whatever we need to do I know this is going to be a cruel question in light of everything we've seen in the last few days but when you see these news reports we hear the fate of these hostages that were so close to freedom what goes through your mind about the military operation and the people that are still trapped there you need to understand that there's a lot of complex when talking about these kind of military events and the next thing they do I can't blame anyone for what they've done I think that being there fighting is hard enough and deciding on the ground is hard I personally know the mother of Yutong Fahim I was with her on the delegation to Australia a couple days ago and it's you see it seems like when they're there everything is fine and they can be released and if they're alive they will come out alive this is the hope because you know that they want them alive you know that they'll come back to you but as we just saw again I can't blame anyone of these missions but as we just saw no one is safe when they are in Khamasens no one is safe and bringing them back should be now and not and some other forms or ways in a couple days and should be now because in each second if they might be alive they can get killed and we're talking about people that's the hardest thing that everyone needs to remember I mean thank you very much for being with us on this show and we're all praying for exactly what you're praying for that people do come home they're still alive will make it back to their families at the end of this ordeal all the war families completely gunned down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well our viewers around the world I'm Albert Lewinton at the I-24 news headquarters in Tel Aviv day 84 of the war in Gaza and here's what you need to know another Israeli soldier has been killed in action Captain Haral Sharif was killed fighting in northern Gaza his father was a combat officer in the 7,008th battalion he was from the Kochav Yaakov settlement he's being laid to rest right now on Mount Herzl in Jerusalem Sharif's death raises the Gaza grand operations death toll to 168 Hamas officials are expected in Cairo later today to discuss an Egyptian plan for a ceasefire AFP reports that Egypt laid out the plan last week to Hamas and Islam the plan involves renewable ceasefires and staggered release in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israel this plan also provides for a Palestinian government of technocrats responsible for post-war Gaza there's been no word from Israel on this report overnight Syrian state media says that Israel staged another round of missile strikes near Damascus there's been no details on what was struck also overnight Iran has executed three men and one woman it accuses of spying for Israel that fifth prisoner was transferred to solitary confinement just after the elimination of the Iran Revolutionary Guard General Razi Musavi in Issyria Israel is said to be behind that the IDF raided a house of a Hamas fighter in the outskirts of Jabalia inside that house a wedding album with wedding pictures but also photos of children holding weapons grenades, RPG launchers imagine that children holding RPG launchers earlier this month an IDF video interrogation showed just how Hamas has exploited children something not discussed at pro-Hamas protest worldwide and UNICEF seems to be silent about that a two month long extensive investigation by the New York Times shows the brutality of Hamas inflicted on women on October the 7th more than 150 people were interviewed details are so graphic at the systematic sexual attacks on women women groups around the world including the United Nations have stood silent investigators with Israel's top national police have been gathering evidence that many of the victims are dead and buried we may never know just how many victims there were we have live team coverage of day day 84 of the war we want to begin first with Robert Swift I-24 news correspondent he's joining us from still roads in southern Israel Robert earlier this morning we saw a lot of heavy fighting going on in the south is it continuing to be the same and what is the situation right now that's right the IDF are focusing their efforts in the neighborhood of which is right close to the border with Israel and it's from there that the IDF says that the 7th of October attacks were launched into the Israeli community of near Oz the IDF says that the operations are taking place in that neighborhood of Canunas it's the first time that they have gone into that area since the attacks of the 7th and they say that they are making progress there fighting Hamas and dismantling the organization's infrastructure tunnels etc there but the fighting is not only limited to there earlier today we saw fighting up here in the northern part of the Gaza Strip the fighting appears to have continued there and as you say despite the fact that this is considered lower intensity than the fighting further to the south clearly it is serious combat with that casualty that was that occurred yesterday occurring there in the northern part of the Gaza Strip Robert thanks so much Robert for joining us from the southern part of Israel right on the border with Gaza thanks so much we want to continue our live team coverage now with Major General General he's a political and military analyst he's joining us from northern Israel thanks so much Elliott for joining us my pleasure major not major general okay I apologize but thank you for correcting me on that so major if I may the situation in the south with Khan Unis this is something that Robert brought up momentarily a few moments ago about the Khan Unis being the launching point for the attacks that on near Oz is there in your opinion is there a reason why we aim for that area why Israel aims for that area well we're starting in the areas that are near to Israel and pushing deeper more in the direction of the sea the fact that the attacks came from there is coincidental the tactical decisions to go in and to reach the center of Khan Unis from whatever direction has to do with what's happening on the ground not what happened on October 7th and what the situation in terms of going house to house road to road building by building this was something that was brought out yesterday in the and Danny Higari's news conference with with the members of the media because there was an issue about the three hostages that were killed accidentally by the IDF it seems as though what they're dealing with here is unlike anything that anyone anywhere around the world deals with maybe what the Americans dealt with in Mosul this is certainly an unusual situation I think he was the word unique because things have happened but it's unusual in that we're talking about a full combat situation mixed with a scattered hostage situation and on the one hand fighting a guerrilla-style war in an urban environment which is about as difficult and complex as it gets and add to that the possibility that people walking around might be hostages with possible tragic results as we saw with the three were killed it just means that much more care that much more meticulous work on the ground using both intelligence and observation as you go very complex very dangerous and it's very slow I think that's part of what we need to understand as well this is not six-day war style sweep in and conquer this is a very very slow laborious work as you said going house to house and room to room to make sure the places are clear and then of course at the same time concerning yourself what's happening underground knowing that any room you walk into or any yard you walk into can also have a shaft to a tunnel that terrorists can pop out of at any moment in fire on you Sir, that sort of begs the question as to whether or not a ceasefire is something that it may be a little too premature that if the IDF has not been able to go house to house road by road a building by building the idea that even while we all want an end to this war whether a ceasefire right now at this time may just not be the right time if you're talking about a ceasefire to end it it's certainly not the right time if you're referring to a ceasefire that might include some sort of hostage release agreement then we're talking about conflicting values and that's a very tough call but I think the general consensus would be if we can get hostages out then taking a break for a few days or a week is just a price you have to pay in order to get the hostages out as I said if we're talking about ending it and leaving them in place it would be a very very bad idea Well, I mean that's the question that all through the morning we've been discussing with different people about what exactly is this ceasefire arrangement that Egypt has been proposing to Hamas and to Islamic jihad and something that has already occurred in the past where they would take a break let some humanitarian aid in let some hostages out and then but at some point ended it doesn't sound like it sounds as though that's the crux here like what does the end what do we count as the end what is the military objective when we've decided as well as okay we have gotten what we've needed to do and we're done Well, the military objective is to destroy Hamas military capability and that means destroying its command echelon its command infrastructure and working down through the brigades and the battalions obviously doesn't mean killing every last member of Hamas that's an impossibility but breaking up the organization to the point where there's no ability to launch anything resembling an organized attack against Israel or Israelis is certainly a doable objective but it's not one that's going to happen over the next few days or weeks You know, Ali you're joining us from the northern part of Israel right now where just moments ago there was an alert on the screen here at I-24 that there were dozens of hostile intrusions turned out not to be the case but there was still a UAV that was found somewhere to be hovering over Haifa The north is something that we should still be looking at it's not as though everything is hunky-dory up there No, on the contrary it's heating up we're still seeing as we've seen over the past few weeks escalation that's more what I would call quantitative than qualitative in the sense that it's staying in the same area along the border largely against military positions and evacuated towns and villages but nonetheless it is picking up and yesterday there was an attempt to drone attack against the Crayot, the northern neighborhoods of Haifa I think that what we're beginning to see is an Iranian response to America's tepid actions in the Red Sea in other words with the Houthis and the American the public statement that they warned Israel not to initiate a war against Tchizballah. Now that all sounds very nice and peaceful but what it basically means to the Iranians and Tchizballah is that they can step up with less fear of an Israeli response so we're seeing much more of that over the past few days and into this morning and in a way of exhausting the IDF in a way of saying okay if you're focusing everything on the south we'll see how far we can go to the north just to exhaust you look war is exhausting no matter what and this is a long one but unlike 2006 with the reserves mobilized and the general staff decided even over mobilized which is fine with me I'd rather be over than under there's still a very very large force in the north standing across and facing Tchizballah either in anticipation of a Tchizballah attack to defend against it we're in preparation for an attack against Tchizballah if and when the order is given great major Elliott Khodov thanks so much for joining us again political and military analyses joining us for the northern part of Israel we're getting word into I-24 news there have been some rocket alerts in the southern part of Israel we'll get to that in just a few moments I just wanted to tell you as we look at that 22 year old Alon Ohel had a whole life in front of him he got back from a long trip to East Asia and was planning to start his music studies but then October 7th happened and Alon was abducted to Gaza his mother Idid is now fighting to keep his story along with the campaigning to release all of the Israeli hostages in the headlines worldwide I-24 news reporter Uri Shapira has more the hostages square Tel Aviv it's become a focal point in the campaign to raise awareness of the Israelis abducted to Gaza and keep the plight in the public eye one of the items here is quite unique a solitary piano with a slogan on it Alon you are not alone I felt that I need to do something that will make people may be understand about him more and learn about him more and by playing they will be in like contact with him the piano is dedicated to Alon Ohel 22 year old was kidnapped to Gaza from the Nova Festival on October 7 Alon is a talented musician planned to study music at the prestigious Rimon Academy in Ramata Sharon north of Tel Aviv but October 7 changed everything on that night Friday night we had dinner with our family we came home we came home he got ready play the piano left the piano open and and his brother took him to a friend's house and then from there they drove to the Nova Festival they got there about 5 in the morning so he was like there for maybe an hour an hour and a half and it's all started it started with rockets falling down knowing that they have to get cover from the rockets they got into a car into their car and started to drive north but the police stopped them and told them that they can go forward so they went south and found a shelter near Reim at that time in Reim the Hamas came in and started to throw grenades into the bomb shelter at that time the Hamas came inside and took my son and three others the piano has become one of the most iconic items in this sad square as people occasionally stop and play on it some players are famous Israeli musicians such as singers Rami Kleinsten and Marina Maximilian for me it was important to say alone you're not alone because it's very important to think of him not being alone and the fact is that we are not alone and the fact that we are thinking about him makes him and us not being alone so it's like a whole you know thing that has to do with that ever since October 7 Alon's mother Edith is giving the word as part of advocacy campaign to promote the message bring them home now I can say now after all that all this time it's been 81 days now today then when I'll see him the first thing I'll tell him that I know him better now because of the beautiful things that his friends are telling me about him and everything that people writing me things and sending me things about him that I was able to know before because as a mother you know you don't know everything your son is doing and now I know and it's beautiful and I want to meet and how he is now and I'll give him a big hug for that day I want to bring in Talia Levinon she's the CEO of the Israeli Charlie Coalition thanks so much you see a piece like this how does a country cope well personally as well as a country society I think we are all heartbroken and we all are trying to find meaning and purpose and ways to cope so we are I think one of the definitions of resilience not an academic one maybe but the definition of resilience is to know and hold the vulnerability as well as looking for the strength to move on forward there's so many people around the world I came from a few weeks in the US and so many people asked me how are you coping in Israel with all of this how are you dealing with this and I say that Israel moves on people go to work people go to school they do the best they can yes there are troubles there's a war there's a war in the south a war in the north but you served during the Yom Kippur times where soldiers on the front this is the whole society that is coping with the heartache and fear and anxiety and it affects everybody I think we are going to be a changed society I've been dealing with bereavement and crisis for many years nothing can prepare any of us to cope with such a magnitude of impact and what we are looking for and it gives us meaning look for the ways to make people cope better and there are many ways to do that although around us as you say there is a lot of uncertainty and a lot of pain and who knows what the days will bring there's so many there's as I mentioned you when you walked into the studio I said I could spend a half hour talking to you just in general of how we deal with this so let's go point by point first there's the October 7th attack itself and how three months later there are those who see the war and who watch TV 24-7 or online 24-7 how does a family member deal with someone who is obsessed and can't deal with that how does someone deal with that kind of trauma and then there's those who have those family members who are fighting who also deal with this trauma day in and day out is my child going to call me from the front line that everything is going to be fine we're is there a hierarchy that how do we deal with all this or is it just sort of all together one well we can speak of a geographical hierarchy where were you on the 7th of October if you were 0 to 2 kilometers you were probably more exposed more in danger if you were at the party you were probably more exposed more in danger you saw things that nobody should even witness but there is a hierarchy also on the time continuum people heal many people heal and even if they feel pain they're still healing they go back to work they have a sense of support from the family what the Israeli society has been doing in the last 3 months is simply amazing I mean people reach out to people doing wonderful things and giving a source giving a source of strength and of course clinically there are a lot of tools to help people there are a lot of support clinical professional support throughout the country to help people maybe not enough but to help people cope better in 2001 and 9-11 I lived in New York many Americans dealt with a situation similar to in different ways similar to this but nonetheless here we are 25 years after 9-11 and there's still a lot of trauma to be had yes so is Israel prepared for the trauma to occur for the next 10-15-20 years outwards so I think not there is this expression that I do not like called the day after what will happen in the day after are we prepared for the day after there is still no day after nothing is going to happen and say okay this is it we are finished we can move on this is going to take a long time I think we are talking about a long term marathon and always as well as clinically it will come out as you said many years after 9-11 people are still coming for the first time to therapy I spoke to Dr. Katz in New York who was the one who initiated the psychiatric therapy and he says just the other day somebody came up to me and said something happened to me and my trauma is surfing and this will happen in Israel too so we need to prepare in Israel to be prepared for trauma care in as many venues as possible each continuum because trauma care for children is different and trauma care unfortunately now includes such a high number of bereaved people which is not something that we dealt with. Also about women, I mean one of the things that was described today in New York Times in an extensive investigation 150 people they spoke with about the weaponization of rape and sexual assault on women and then you go on social media and there's people who are saying women who are saying I don't believe it I don't believe it, I don't believe any of this happened IDF is making it up whether or not they have a political stand in this nonetheless I mean that's a trauma that victims themselves will face for the next few years that people will say we don't believe what happened to you actually happened how do you even begin to that? I really don't know it's very difficult I think one of our roles is to acknowledge the pain of people of women of people who are facing terrible things one of our roles as people and as a therapist is to acknowledge and say yes we believe you are with you and we believe also that you have strength and we will look for them together and see what the journey will bring it is a it is a very difficult issue when somebody says to you I don't believe you but we need to do personal work in order to strengthen these people So Tanya let's talk a little bit about that personal work if someone is at home are there tips are there flags someone is not coping well with this what are they? I strongly believe in psychoeducation I don't think everybody in Israel not the 10 million people in Israel will need therapy so one of the things that needs to be out there is to explain to people what is a normal reaction what is a non-normal reaction you were speaking about being exposed to the news not recommended but what is a normal reaction you should feel sad this is a very sad situation embrace the sadness I'm not sure embrace acknowledge it definitely but you need to also know what are the symptoms of something that is not right if three months afterwards you still don't sleep you still don't eat you're still very agitated, very angry it needs to diminish over time to become lower over time and you need to acknowledge your own responses they need to become different and children as well as for parents these people need to know that this is not a normal reaction three months later almost everything is normal in the first two days but then you need to cope better and if you don't you need to find their hotlines in Israel, support lines in Israel Jewish communities around the world also I'm focusing on Israel but there is Iran and Atal in Israel that you can turn to and this is their expertise but also there are therapists who are trained in trauma focused intervention and we are training together with TEVA we are training hundreds of more therapists to make sure that there is a network of therapists throughout the country who specialize in short term interventions and one of the things Taliya before I let you go it's not just for the victims themselves but the rings around them, the family members the external family, large families should all be watching out we are talking about circles of exposure and circles of vulnerability and the circles include the victims themselves, their families the first responders the nurses in the hospitals everybody we've been doing this for more than 20 years everybody who touches trauma is in fact impacted by trauma thank you for coming thank you with the recent up-tech of anti-semitism anti-semitic violence in the US Israeli MMA fighter Natan Levy gave a free self-defense seminar at Brooklyn's JCC our senior correspondent Mike Wagenheim has more Natan Levy proudly carries the banner for Israel into the octagon as a mixed martial arts fighter but he wants to make sure in a time of heightened anti-semitism that all Jews can fight for themselves this week in a gym atop a Jewish community center in Brooklyn Levy provided a free seminar for those who look like they've been in a fight before and those who may be throwing their first punch I wanted to teach them self-defense moves but mostly I wanted to inspire them to keep training because one hour of training is not going to help enough it could help, it might help but one hour is just not enough you need to train regularly you need to be strong, you need to be fit you need to have knowledge of the techniques you need to have a strong mind so for me today was give them a taste of training and inspire them to keep training Levy provided instructions on a proper fighting stance punching techniques keeping would-be attackers at arms length and defending yourself once someone is within close range Levy told us it's time every Jew gets prepared to fight should the situation call for it yeah I feel like if we're defendants are they going to hate us are they not going to hate us you want to be self-reliant it doesn't matter if they hate us or not right now they do so might as well be ready to fight be ready to defend ourselves our families, our close ones this is the whole point for something there is nothing to be ashamed about being a Jewish, being Israeli for me it's about making Israeli stronger Jewish community stronger which this is what they are they are cowards usually when somebody stands up to them to them they fall Reporting from Brooklyn Mike Wagenheim, I-24 News that's great I'm Albert Lewerton reporting from Tel Aviv the news continues right after the break you're watching I-24 News Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where she is she's sitting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well this week in I-24 Israel under attack I-24 in Spanish brings the analysis and information of the events of the war war swords exclusive interviews reports from the war zone the reaction of the Spanish-speaking countries I-24 the only medium in Spanish the Latin community in Israel I-24 only in I-24 News 44 news headquarters in Tel Aviv day 84 of the war in Gaza and here's what you need to know another Israeli soldier has been killed in action Captain Haral Sharvit was killed fighting in northern Gaza the 33 year old was a combat officer in the 7,008th battalion he was from the Kochaviakos settlement he's being laid to rest right now on Mount Herzl in Jerusalem his death raises the Gaza ground operations death toll to 168 Hamas officials are expected in Cairo later today to discuss an Egyptian plan for a ceasefire AFP reports that Egypt laid out the plan last week to Hamas and Islamic Shahad the plan involves renewables ceasefires and staggered release of hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israel this plan also provides for a Palestinian government of technocrats responsible for post war Gaza this report over night Syrian state media says that Israel staged another round of missile strikes near Damascus there's been no details on what was struck also over night Iran has executed three men and one woman intercuses of spying for Israel a fifth prisoner was transferred to solitary confinement these executions come just after the elimination of the Iran Revolutionary Guard General Razim Mousavi in Issyria Israel is said to be behind that the IDF raided a house a mass fighter in the outskirts of Jabaliya inside that house a wedding album with wedding pictures but also photos of children holding weapons grenades RPG launchers imagine that children holding RPG launchers earlier this month an IDF video interrogation showed just how Hamas has exploited children something not discussed at pro-Hamas protests worldwide and UNICEF seems to be silent about that a two month long extensive investigation by the New York Times the mentality that Hamas inflicted on women on October the 7th more than 150 people were interviewed details are so graphic at the systematic sexual attacks on women women groups around the world including the United Nations have stood silent investigators with Israel's top national police have been gathering evidence since many of the victims are dead and buried we may never know just how many victims there were we have live team coverage of day 84 of the war Robert Swift I-24 news correspondent he's joining us from Steroids in southern Israel Robert earlier this morning we saw a lot of heavy fighting going on in the south is it continuing to be the same and what is the situation right now that's right the IDF are focusing their efforts in can UNICEF specifically in the eastern neighborhood of Qubat Itzqa which is right close to the border with Israel and it's from there that the IDF says that the 7th of October attacks were launched into the Israeli community of near Oz the IDF says that the operations are taking place in that neighborhood of Canunis it's the first time that they have gone into that area since the attacks of the 7th and they say that they are making progress there fighting Hamas and dismantling the organization's infrastructure tunnels etc there but the fighting is not only limited to there earlier today we saw fighting up here in the northern part of the Gaza Strip the fighting appears to have continued there and as you say despite the fact that this is considered lower intensity than the fighting further to the south clearly it is serious combat with that casualty that occurred yesterday occurring there in the northern parts of the Gaza Strip Robert thanks so much Robert Stewart joining us from the southern part of Israel right on the border with Gaza we want to continue our live team coverage now with major general general he's a political and military analyst he's joining us from northern Israel thanks so much Elliott for joining us my pleasure major not major general okay I apologize but thank you for correcting me on that so major if I may Elliott if I may the situation in the south with Canunis this is something that Robert brought up momentarily a few moments ago about Canunis being the launching point for the attacks that on near Oz is there in your opinion is there a reason why we aim for that area why Israel aims for that area well we're starting in the areas that are nearer to Israel and pushing deeper more in the direction of the sea I think the attacks came from there is coincidental the tactical decisions to go in and to reach the center of Canunis from whatever direction has to do with what's happening on the ground not what happened on October 7th the situation in terms of going house to house road to road building by building this was something that was brought out yesterday in Danny Higari's news conference with the members of the media because there was an issue about the three hostages that were killed accidentally by the IDF it seems as though what they're dealing with here is unlike anything that anyone anywhere around the world deals with maybe what the Americans dealt with in Mosul this is certainly an unusual situation I think it was the word unique because things have happened but it's unusual in that we're talking about a full combat situation mixed with a scattered hostage situation and on the one hand fighting a guerrilla style war in an urban environment which is about as difficult and complex as it gets and add to that the possibility that people walking around might be hostages with possible tragic results as we saw with the three who were killed it just means that much more care that much more meticulous work on the ground using both intelligence and observation as you go very complex very dangerous and it's very slow and I think that's part of what we need to understand as well this is not six day war style sweep in and conquer this is a very very slow laborious work as you said going house to house and room to room to make sure the places are clear and then of course at the same time concerning yourself what's happening underground knowing that any room you walk into or any yard you walk into can also have a shaft to a tunnel that terrorists can pop out of at any moment and fire on you. So that sort of begs the question as to whether or not a ceasefire is something that it may be a little too premature that if the IDF has not been able to go house to house road by road a building by building the idea that even while we all want an end to this war whether a ceasefire right now at this time may just not be the right time. If you're talking about a ceasefire to end it it's certainly not the right time if you're referring to a ceasefire that might include some sort of hostage release agreement then we're talking about conflicting values and that's a very tough call but I think the general consensus would be if we can get hostages out then taking a break for a few days or a week is just a price you have to pay in order to get the hostages out. As I said if we're talking about ending it and leaving them in place it would be a very very bad idea. Well I mean that's the question that we've been discussing with different people about what exactly is this ceasefire arrangement that Egypt has been proposing to Hamas and to Islamic jihad and something that has already occurred in the past where they would take a break let some humanitarian aid in, let some hostages out but at some point end it. It sounds as though that's the crux here like what does the end what do we count as the end when we decide as well as decide okay we have gotten what we've needed to do and we're done. Well the military objective is to destroy Hamas's military capability and that means destroying its command its command infrastructure and working down through the brigades and the battalions so obviously it doesn't mean killing every last member of Hamas that's an impossibility but breaking up the organization to the point where there's no ability to launch anything resembling an organized attack against Israel or Israelis is certainly a doable objective but it's not one that's going to happen over the next few days or weeks. You know Ali you're joining us from the northern part of Israel right now where just moments ago there was a alert on the screen here at I-24 that there were dozens of hostile intrusions turned out not to be the case but there was still a UAV that was found somewhere to be hovering over Haifa the north is something that we should still be looking at it's not as though everything is hunky-dory up there. No on the contrary it's heating up we're still still seeing as we've seen over the past few weeks escalation that's more what I would call quantitative than qualitative in the sense that it's staying in the same area along the border largely against military positions and evacuated towns and villages but nonetheless it is picking up and yesterday there was an attempt to drone attack against the Criot the northern neighborhoods of Haifa I think that what we're beginning to see is an Iranian response to America's tepid actions in the Red Sea in other words with the Houthis and the American the public statement that they warned Israel not to initiate a war against Hezbollah now that all sounds very very nice and peaceful but what it basically means to the Iranians and to Hezbollah is that they can step up with less fear of an Israeli response so we're seeing much more of that over the past few days and into this morning and in a way of exhausting the IDF in a way of saying okay if you're focusing everything on the south we'll see how far we can go to the north just to exhaust you look war is exhausting no matter what and this is a long one but unlike 2006 with the reserves mobilized and the general staff decided even over mobilized which is fine with me I'd rather be over than under there's still a very very large force in the north standing across and facing Hezbollah either in anticipation of a Hezbollah attack or to defend against it or in preparation for an attack against Hezbollah if and when the order is given Major Elliott Khodov thanks so much for joining us again political and military analysts joining us for the northern part of Israel we're getting word into I-24 news there have been some rocket alerts in the southern part of Israel we'll get to that in just a few moments I just want to tell you we'll as we look at that 22 year old Alon Ohel had a whole life in front of him in 2007 and Alon was abducted to Gaza his mother Idid is now fighting to keep his story along with the campaigning to release all of the Israeli hostages in the headlines worldwide I-24 news reporter Uri Shapira has more The Hostages Square Tel Aviv it's become a focal point in the campaign to raise awareness of the Israelis abducted to Gaza and keep their plight in the public eye one of the items here is quite unique the piano with a slogan on it Alon, you are not alone I felt that they need to do something that will make people maybe understand about him more and learn about him more and by playing they will be in like contact with him the piano is dedicated to Alon Ohel 22 year old who was kidnapped to Gaza from the Nova Festival on October 7 Alon is a talented musician who learned to study music at the prestigious Rimon Academy in Ramata Sharon north of Tel Aviv but October 7 changed everything on that night Friday night we had dinner with our family we came home he got ready, played the piano left the piano open and his brother took him to a friend's house and then from there they drove to the Nova Festival they got there about five in the morning so he was like there for maybe an hour, an hour and a half and it's all started it started with rockets falling down knowing that they have to get cover from the rockets they got into a car into their car and started to drive north but the police stopped them and told them that they can go forward so they went south and found a shelter a bomb shelter near Reim at that time in Reim there were the Hamas came in and started to throw grenades into the bomb shelter at that time the Hamas came inside and took my son and three others the piano has become one of the most iconic items in this sad square as people occasionally stop and play on it some of the players are famous Israeli musicians such as singers Ramik Leinstein and Marina Maximilian for me it was important to say alone you are not alone because it's very important to think of him that we are not alone and the fact that we are thinking about him makes him and us not being alone so it's like a whole thing that has to do with that ever since October 7 Alon's mother Edith has been traveling the world as part of advocacy campaign to promote the message bringing them home now I can say now after all that time this time it's been 81 days now today I'll see him the first thing I'll tell him that I know him better now because of the beautiful things that his friends are telling me about him and everything people writing me things and sending me things about him that I have not been able to know before because as a mother you know you don't know everything your son is doing and now I know and it's beautiful and I want to meet how he is now and I'll give him a big hug for that day I want to bring in Talia Levinon she's the CEO of the Israel Charlie Coalition thanks so much you see a piece like this how does a country cope? well personally as well as a country society I think we are all heart broken and we all are trying to find meaning and purpose and ways to cope so we are I think one of the definitions of resilience not an academic one maybe but the definition of resilience is to know and hold the vulnerability as well as looking for the strength to move on move forward you know there's so many people around the world I came from a few weeks in the US and so many people ask me how are you coping in Israel with all of this how are you dealing with this Israel moves on people go to work people go to school they do the best they can yes there are troubles there's a war there's a war in the south a war in the north but you served during the Yom Kippur times how is this different? oh it's very different the Yom Kippur war where soldiers on the front this is the whole society that is coping with the heartache and fear and anxiety and it affects everybody I think we are going to be a changed society dealing with bereavement and crisis for many years nothing can prepare any of us to cope with such a magnitude of impact and what we are looking for and it gives us a meaning is to look for the ways to make people cope better and there are many ways to do that although around us as you say there is a lot of uncertainty and a lot of pain and who knows what the days we bring as I mentioned to you when you walked into the studio I said I could spend a half hour talking to you just in general of how we deal with this so let's go point by point first there is the October 7th attack itself and how three months later we still have trouble coping with it there are those who see the war and who are who watch TV 24-7 or online 24-7 how does a family member deal with someone who is obsessed and deal with that how does someone deal with that kind of trauma and then there are those who have those family members who are fighting who also deal with this trauma day in and day out as my child going to call me from the front line that everything is going to be fine weird is there a hierarchy how do we deal with all this is it just sort of all together one well we can speak of a geographical hierarchy where were you on the 7th of October zero to two kilometers you were probably more exposed more in danger if you were at the party you were probably more exposed more in danger you saw things that nobody should even witness but there is a hierarchy also on the time continuum people heal many people heal and even if they feel pain they're still healing they go back to work they have a sense of support from the family what the Israeli society has been doing in the last three months is simply amazing I mean people reach out to people doing wonderful things and giving a source of strength and of course clinically there are a lot of tools to help people cope there's a lot of support clinical professional support throughout the country to help people maybe not enough but to help people cope better in 2001 in 9-11 I lived in New York Americans dealt with a situation similar to in different ways similar to this but nonetheless here we are 25 years after 9-11 and there's still a lot of trauma to be had so is Israel prepared for the trauma that is to occur for the next 10, 15, 20 years outwards so I think not I think this is a there is this expression that I do not like called the day after what will happen in the day after are we prepared for the day after there is still no day after there is no nothing is going to happen and say okay this is it we are finished you know we can move on this is going to take a long time I think we are talking about a long term marathon always as well as clinically I think people will come out as you said many years after 9-11 people are still coming for the first time to therapy I spoke to the Dr. Katz in New York who was the one who initiated the psychiatric therapy and he says just the other day somebody came up to me and said something happened to me and my trauma is surfing and this will happen in Israel too so we need to prepare in Israel to be prepared for trauma care in as many venues as possible along the age continuum because trauma care for children is different and trauma care unfortunately now includes such a high number of bereaved people which is not something that we dealt with also about women I mean one of the things I described today in New York Times an extensive investigation 150 people they spoke with about the weaponization of rape and sexual assault on women and then you go on social media and there's people who are saying women women who are saying I don't believe it I don't believe any of this happened IDF is making it up whether or not they have a political stand in this nonetheless I mean that's a trauma that victims themselves will face for the next few years but people will say we don't believe what happened to you actually happened how do you even begin to that I really don't know it's very difficult I think one of our roles is to acknowledge the pain of people of women of people who are facing terrible things one of our roles as people as a therapist is to acknowledge and say yes we believe you are with you and we believe also that you have strength and we will look for them together and see what the journey will bring it is a very difficult issue when somebody says to you I don't believe you but we need to do personal work in order to strengthen these people Let's talk a little bit about that personal work if someone is at home are there tips are there flags someone is not coping well with this what are they I strongly believe in psychoeducation but in Israel not the 10 million people in Israel will need therapy one of the things that needs to be out there is to explain to people what is a normal reaction what is a non-normal reaction you were speaking about being exposed to the news all the time it is certainly not recommended but what is a normal reaction you should feel sad this is a very sad situation and you can feel embrace the sadness in a way I'm not sure embrace be part of your family definitely but you need to also know what are the symptoms of something that is not right if three months afterwards you still don't sleep you still don't eat you're still very agitated very angry then it needs to diminish over time to become lower over time and you need to acknowledge your own responses they need to become different and children as well as for parents these people need to know that this is not a normal reaction three months later almost everything is normal in the first two days but then you need to cope better and if you don't you need to find there are hotlines in Israel support lines in Israel that you can turn to and around the world, Jewish communities around the world also I'm focusing on Israel but there is Iran and Natal in Israel that you can turn to and this is their expertise but also there are therapists who are trained in trauma focused intervention we are training together with the pharmaceutical company we are training hundreds of more therapists to make sure that there is a network of therapists throughout the country who specialize in short term interventions and one of the things before I let you go is that it's not just for the victims themselves but the rings around them, the family members the external family, large families should all be watching out we are talking about circles of exposure and circles of vulnerability circles include the victims themselves their families, the first responders the nurses in the hospitals everybody, you know we've been doing this for more than 20 years everybody who touches trauma is in fact impacted by trauma Tyler Lebanon, CEO of the Israel Trauma Coalition, thank you again for coming in this morning with the recent uptake of anti-semitism and anti-semitic fuel violence in the US Israeli MMA fighter Natan Levy self-defense seminar at Brooklyn's JCC our senior correspondent Mike Wagenheim has more Natan Levy proudly carries the banner for Israel into the octagon as a mixed martial arts fighter but he wants to make sure in a time of heightened anti-semitism that all Jews can fight for themselves this week in a gym atop a Jewish community center in Brooklyn Levy provided a free seminar for those who look like they've been in a fight before and those who may be throwing their first punch I wanted to teach them some self-defense moves but mostly I wanted to inspire them to keep training because one hour of training is not going to help enough, right it could help, it might help but one hour is just not enough you need to train regularly, you need to be strong you need to be fit you need to have knowledge of the techniques you need a strong mind so for me today was give them a taste of training and inspire them to keep training Levy provided instructions on a proper fighting stance punching techniques keeping would-be attackers at arms length and defending yourself once someone is within close range Levy told us it's time every Jew gets prepared to fight should the situation call for it yeah I feel like if we're defendants are they going to hate us are they not going to hate us you want to be self-reliant it doesn't matter if they hate us or do not right now they do so might as well be ready to fight be ready to defend ourselves our families, our close friends at this point for something there is nothing to be ashamed about being a Jewish, being Israeli for me it's about making Israeli stronger Jewish community stronger and usually the bullies which this is what they are they are cowards usually when somebody stands up to them they fall Reporting from Brooklyn Mike Wagenheim, I-24 News right after the break you're watching I-24 News Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where she is our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well Hamas's officials are expected in Cairo later today to discuss an Egyptian plan for a ceasefire AFP reports that Egypt laid out the plan last week to Hamas into Islamic Jihad the plan involves renewable ceasefires and a ceasefire and a ceasefire and a ceasefire and a ceasefire and a ceasefire and a ceasefire and a ceasefire and a ceasefire the plan involves renewable ceasefires and a staggered release of hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israel the plan also provides for Palestinian government of technocrats there is no word of a post-war Gaza on this Total I don't even know what I'm doing that happens since July photos of children holding weapons grand challenges soldiers holding RPG holding RPG launchers. Earlier this month, IDF video interrogations showed just how Hamas has exploited children. Something that's not discussed at pro-Hamas protests worldwide is something UNICEF seems to be silent about. A two-month-long investigative, extensive investigation by the New York Times shows the brutality that Hamas has inflicted on women on October the 7th. More than 150 people were interviewed. Details were so graphic about the systematic sexual attacks on women. Women groups around the world, including the United Nations, stood silent. Investigators with Israel's top national police unit have been gathering evidence. Now, since many of the victims are dead and buried, we may just never know how many victims there were. Joining me now live in the studio is Colonel Olivier Rafferwitz. He's the IDF spokesperson for the international media. Thanks so much for joining us this morning. The IDF launched a new operation this morning. Can you tell us a little bit about what this operation is? Good morning. Good afternoon. Actually, there are today more troops in different areas in the Gaza Strip. A new operation has been decided and it has been launched in order to fight and to destroy Hamas terrorists and infrastructures from where they attacked on the 7th of October near Oath. The operation is called Oath near, Oath near, sorry. And the goal is actually to get into this area. It's an area just in front of the Neroz Kibbutz, around two kilometers from there. And the IDF is actually acting there and doing what they have to do. Is this to amass information as to how the attack was planned? Why is this specific site being targeted? This specific site is actually a place from where terrorists left the Gaza Strip and came into either a territory. It's quite close to Israel and close to Neroz Kibbutz and you know the results. It was atrocities. It was rapes. It was killing, mass killing. And terrorists came also with a gathering of people from the area. Not all the killers were specifically terrorists, I would say terrorists, parts of Hamas or Islamic groups. They were also gathering people joining the mass killing on this day. And we know that we talk about thousands of terrorists with gathering people. Civilians, these are not, so when people, when you see on social media, all the innocent civilians of Gaza, that they had nothing to do, this would seem to think that that's not exactly the case. Yes, it is exactly what you just say now. It was terrorists, members of Hamas and also so-called innocent civilians who joined this deadly party. You know, we know even about women who came with the men and they stole shoes of women. Some of them have been murdered and they took clothes, women clothes, women shoes to bring them together with terrorists. I mean, it's awful. It's atrocities mixed with the kind of a pogrom, pogrom atmosphere. And from this part in front of Nero's Kibbutz, the left and they came to kill. And so how does the IDF delineate who was a Hamas fighter and who was a civilian that may or may not have taken part in this? That's all. We have a lot of intelligence. If you remember, and of course you remember because you are part of this program for many months, Hamas has actually video everything. They took cameras, go pro cameras. Meanwhile, they kill. Meanwhile, they rape. And they film everything. So we have a lot of video and film material that can be used by our intelligence agencies, intelligence offices to know who was where. The last week, we actually arrested the terrorists leaving school. Some of them were part of Nourba, which is actually what they call the elite commando unit from Hamas. They were actually part of the killing action on the 7th of October. So maybe there's been some mention online about a strike, an Israeli strike, an IDF strike in Rafa next to the hospital there. Can you tell us a little bit more detail from that air? Yes, I have not all the details right now, but what I can tell you that we know from the very beginning, and that's one of the most difficult situations for the IDF, that Hamas is actually all the time not only using civilian women and kids to kill or to try to kill, using them as a human shield. But they are also hiding themselves behind U.N. facilities or schools or mosques. So sometimes we have to strike onto it where they are shooting from or where they are actually situated. But sometimes it can also eat because there is the shrapnel of their facilities. It is actually the result of the Hamas tactics or even Hamas strategy against Israel. So do we have any indication as to have there been any injuries from IDF soldiers in that situation? Do we have numbers yet? Because online, you know, once something like this happens, it explodes, pardon the expression, but all over. For now, I cannot give you more details. Okay, understood. Let me reference. I'm going to have you stand by one second. We're going to go now to Robert Swift, I-24 news correspondent. He wrote in the southern part of Israel with more on what's happening right now. Robert, go ahead. So just over an hour ago, there was a launch of either rockets or mortars from out of the Gaza Strip into three Israeli communities close to the border there. This is the first launch of this sort of attack today. It's worth bearing in mind that the three communities that were targeted, they're in close proximity to Kirbet Itzhak, which is inside the Gaza Strip. That's where the Israeli military said is conducting operations one of the neighborhoods of Canunis. Now, the IDF have gone in there because it is the first time that they're entering that location since it was used as a base of operations to attack the Israeli community of near Oz, which is on the border. So it does appear that there is fighting taking place there. The IDF has said that Canunis in general, as well as that neighborhood specifically, are the focus of their attention at the moment. And so it does appear that fighting continues there in the south of the Gaza Strip. But we have also seen throughout the day that combat does continue in the north of the Gaza Strip, also possibly to a lower intensity. Great. Robert Swift joining us from the southern part of southern Israel right now from Steroid. Thanks so much for joining us. Let me go back to the studio now to Olivier Rafferwitz. I just want to ask you a quick question. When this situation now in this particular area of Canunis, at what point, what is the objective? When will the objective be met? What is the objective of that specific operation? When will it be considered met? If I may, I would like to give you a general update about the IDF situation right now against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. The fights are very fierce. They are very serious in different points in the north still, but also mostly in Canunis and in what we call center camps in the Gaza Strip. And Hamas has still a position, still with the pockets of terror against the IDF. What I can tell you, and it's checked a few minutes ago, the results of the fight between the IDF soldiers, combatants, and the Hamas is a full and total victory. Tactical one, every time that we are meeting them, we are killing them. And sometimes it's difficult to talk about it because no images, no information coming out because it's inside. And many of the action are also underground because beneath the ground you have the tunnels. We talk about not only hundreds but maybe thousands of kilometers of tunnels with, I would say, sub-tunnels. Sub, sub, sub, sub would say... Branches, branches based. Exactly. So sometimes it's very difficult to understand and even to show pictures. But what I can tell you, officially and publicly, that the IDF is actually getting more and more results against Hamas. We are killing them. We are meeting them. They know it. They are also surrounding, from time to time, you see pictures. We've seen video, yeah. And when they are surrounding to the Israeli troops, they also provide information for further Israeli action. So on a tactical strict point of view today, the IDF is getting very good results against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. We are moving on. We are moving on step by step. We have a lot of troops. I would say even tens of thousands of troops are in the Gaza Strip right now. I would say the best of the best of the Israeli army. And it's also a terrible pain when we see that we are losing soldiers. And if I may, I would like also through your channel, through your program, salute all the soldiers who are fall during the combats and be with the families in these very tough days and also wish prompt recovery for the wounded. Now, while, as do we, we share in that as well as we see what is happening in the south, we should also pay mind to what's happening to the north as well against Hezbollah. There have been reports which you may or may not be able to comment on that more munitions are headed from Iran to Hezbollah. That says that IDF should be prepared for something more. He also want to be a little bit in the explanation of the situation. Since the 8th of October, so a day after the 7th, Hezbollah joined the war by actually assisting Hamas by opening a new front in the northern border between Israel and Lebanon. And we have incidents every day, more or less in the last two or three weeks with more anti-tank missiles, not only against military facilities from the other side, but also like against a church or villages or Moshaveem. They even destroyed a poultry industry along the border. 100,000 people have left the area. So the army, the Israeli army is actually along all the border prepared for all development. But I would say that we are prepared right now in a defensive position, not in a... Not offensive. But I want to be clear and I want also to convey a message. If Hezbollah with the Iranian support, because they cannot do anything without Iran, decide to go to a further escalation, the Israeli reaction will be very tough. And messages have been sent by different elements, also by Defense Minister and by Chief of General Staff that Israel will not let Hezbollah attack Israel, and the response, the reaction will be very, very serious against Lebanon. And Lebanon will pay the price of Hezbollah, I would say, military adventurism supported by Iran. They take a big risk, and they know it. They know about it. Now we respond, respond very tough, you know, toughly. You know, in the last three months, we have killed around 150 terrorists from Hezbollah on other operatives working with Hezbollah. So altogether, it's a very tense situation, but still under control, and we don't want war, but we are prepared for more if Hezbollah continues to attack Israel. Message sent. Thank you so much for joining us in studio. Thanks again. The latter business school has cut its collaboration with Harvard University. Harvard has been the focal point of anti-Semitism on American campuses. Earlier this month, Harvard's president just could not clearly condemn the anti-Semitic pro-Hamas protests on her campus, and that led to prominent Harvard donors to yank some funding. Joining me now is Daniella Scheinfeld. She's the head of communications and marketing at the latter business school, and she's joining us now from Vienna, Austria. Thanks so much for joining us, Daniella. What happened to me? Daniella talked a little bit about it for our audience who may not know what exactly was the tie between the latter school and Harvard. We were part of their microeconomics and competitors network, which is basically to short it up in one sentence. It's a network that once a year we are sending one of our professors to the Harvard University together with a network of over 100 business schools around the world, and in this place they are basically exchanging and learning and taking courses which are taught in Harvard Business School and then implemented into the university, in our case, into the latter business school. So by cutting the collaboration, what does that mean exactly for those of us who don't know? Does it mean cutting funding? Does it mean cutting the exchange program? It's cutting the relationship. It's cutting the network. We're just basically saying we don't, after the recent circumstances, what's happening on the American campuses in which they lack in our position, lack of reaction from their side. And we decided that we don't want to be part of a network which is created and collaborated by the Harvard Business School. Does this come from Mr. Lauder himself? How did this all start exactly with this cutting? Well, Ambassador Lauder is our founder of our university here in Vienna, Austria, and he's the president of our university. However, as he was not, the answer is no. As he was not a part of making the decision to join the network, of course, he was not even part of the decision to go out of the network as it's operational decision created by the board of Lauder Business School. Understood. Daniela, what was the reasoning behind it? You mentioned that it was recent events, but was there something that really got, I mean, there was the Harvard president, as you may know, a few months ago, went in front of Congress and even after being asked, I would say maybe 10, 15, I watched this testimony 10, 15 times, was asked to speak out against anti-Semitism on campus, against pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist protests on campus. She just could not say that she was against it and then had to go backtrack afterwards a couple days after a whole thing blew up in her face and she had to go back. Was that the reasoning or what exactly, what were the chain of events? As you can imagine, we don't know more than you know. We were following what was said and done or didn't do in this respect towards the Jewish students on the campuses. You know they know it, we know it and as of course we understood that we cannot move the Harvard Business School, however we can move our institution and when we made this decision, because a lot of asking why we made this decision, that when we made the decision, when we executed the decision and when we announced the decision, this was our answer, louder business school answer towards our Jewish student body and our alumni community. And as we all know, we know the rest of the world know what happened and what was needed to be done and was not made by this leading Ivy League university in the United States. With billions of dollars in endowment, I might want to add in case people weren't sure about that. And so one question if I may, Ms. Scheinfeld, have you received any backlash from this decision? Because what generally happens in the US is somebody makes a bold pronouncement and then within minutes you'll get something, you'll get social media flame back that says, oh, how dare you, you're stifling people. We were surprised by that. Because as I said to you before I mentioned it was an answer to our community, our academic community. I can say that not everyone is happy about this decision. However, we had a broad agreement and in general I can say, as I said it was a broad agreement and mainly our head of faculties, our academic community, the friends of Lauderd Business School in a very general, very much supportive of this decision. Great, Daniela Scheinfeld, thank you. Please, please. Sorry. Go ahead. I cut you off by accident. Please go ahead. So this is what we need to say that we were very surprised about the broad agreement, the support from our faculty, from our student body, from our alumni community and of course there is always back noises which are less positive but it was our decision and fully standing behind it. And we were proud that even a small step, we are very boutique university, a sole Jewish university here on the land of Europe and as that it was our small, very small contribution that we could do in the sense of the recent events. Daniela? Please support our Jewish student community which is coming from all around the world more than 45 different nationalities of Jewish students are hosted over the years on the campus of Lauderd Business School. Fantastic. Daniela Scheinfeld, thank you so much for your comments and thank you for taking some time with us today. Daniela Scheinfeld, the head of communications and marketing for the Lauderd Business School joining us live from Vienna, Austria. Thanks. We will be allowed back into the area known as the Otef Gaza, the area in Israel on the border with Gaza. There are going to be some rebuilding but a new project led by the Israel Antiquities Authority and other bodies is looking to document and to preserve the destruction of the area so that no one ever forgets what happened on October the 7th. I-24 News reporter Uri Shapira has more. Archaeology is often used to document and preserve items from the ancient history. This time it's being used to do the same thing as something which occurred only a few months ago, the Hamas onslaught of October 7th. This is a massive project. I think it must be the biggest and most complex project ever undertaken in Israel of this nature. I would say furthermore that it's not just complex in as much as it is very integrated from the technological point of view but added to that there is this tremendous sense of urgency. Everything has to be done at the best possible level at the fastest possible time with the greatest possible sensitivity. It's a joint project of the Israel Antiquities Authority, the Ministry of Heritage and the Kuma Administration, a special body which was established after October 7th. The main goal is to document the devastation of the Gaza envelope area. We create a base, a 3D, very detailed base for the memory, for the virtual museum that will happen for many, many other uses of the 3D model. After those, the buildings here would be demolished. We'll have the exact copy of those buildings in the computer and we can build our memory on top of that. The 3D model of those buildings which is really, really accurate would be an evidence that can be used either in court or either in the public domain in the social media to confront the claim that it didn't happen which is already happening. And I think the third main objective is to be a warning sign. What happens when extreme religious is attacking you, is confronting you in the most brutal way. The project is taking place in several main locations in the Gaza envelope. Kibbutz near Oz is one of the places which suffer the most from the Hamas attack. The group, consisting of camera men, archaeologists and experts, is using advanced technologies to get the best possible results. We're using a few methods of photography. First, high resolution cameras, Sony cameras for very high resolution 61 megapixel cameras. We're using drones to take photos from above and we are also using lighter scanners. It's a laser for the best resolution and we merge all these technologies together to get the best model that we can get. The first house the team is walking on belongs to the Akir family who managed to survive the attack after they escaped and hid in a safe room adjacent to the house. Ron Bahat, resident of near Oz, says that despite the sensitivity of the issue, he believes in the value of this project. Something happened here that never happened before. I think it is significant to document and to commemorate it. I think that some of those who've been here don't fully understand the importance of documenting the event for the next generations. On the one hand, there is a call to rebuild the Kibbutz to what it was before. On the other hand, it is clear that it is important to show what happened here. It is clear that some of the people are not even at this stage of thinking ahead about collecting evidence. I believe that this project is top priority. This burned structure was the local kindergarten of near Oz. We can still see traces of the life that was here before the fire, such as happy New Year cards only two weeks before the attack. The 3D model tries to give one the opportunity to tour this site, which is inaccessible to most people. As you can see, it's all black. It's all burnt. It's really hard to see. So what we do is we use a bright flash. When we photograph, basically we shoot the whole area with the digital camera from all the areas around to give a clear view of every feature that we see. And you can see it in the model later on. There were no people here. There were no... Because it was Saturday morning. So the kindergarten was left as it is. And you can see the ash layer is set on the tables and all the stuff. Our next stop is the house of Oded and Jochevet Lifshitz, close to the Kibbutz fence. The elderly couple was abducted to Gaza and only Jochevet has so far returned. Photographer Maya Hadash tells us about her personal interest in this project, which is different from most of her work. It's a very technical work. I always need to understand the 360 perspective of the building and what is the drone getting from above and what I need to complete. How can I complete the drone from different angles also from ground level and up level and also inside. This also question of the line between observation and voyeurism. In recent weeks, we have seen hundreds of people come to view the broken houses of the Gaza border, something that may be disturbing for some and significant and meaningful for others. I mean, you got to see it. It's like everything bad that happens to the Jewish people. You need to record it. It's like the camps in World War II. It's like where the pogroms happened. It's like you need to preserve some of it. Always, always remember. You can get the very latest on the war here on I-24 News on TV, online at I-24News.tv and alerts on your phone with the I-24 News app. I'm Albert Lewerton, reporting live from Tel Aviv. The news continues after the break. You're watching I-24 News. It is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. This week on News 24, Israel under attack. News 24, in Spanish, with the analysis and information of the events of the war, Iron swords. Exclusive interviews and reports from the war zone. The reaction of Spanish-speaking countries. News 24, the only medium in Spanish that keeps you informed and connected with the Latin community in Israel. News 24, only on I-24 News. News around the world. I'm Albert Lewerton at the I-24 News headquarters in Tel Aviv. Day 84 of the war in Gaza Here's what you need to know. Another Israeli soldier has been killed in action. Captain Har el-Sharveed was killed fighting in northern Gaza. The 33-year-old was a combat officer in the 7,008th Battalion. He was from the Kochav Yaakov Settlement. He's being laid to rest right now. These are live pictures of his funeral on Mount Herzl in Jerusalem. Sharveed's death raises the Gaza ground operations death toll to 168. Hamas's officials are expected in Cairo later today to discuss an Egyptian plan for a ceasefire. AFP reports that Egypt laid out the plan last week to Hamas into Islamic Jihad. The plan involves renewable ceasefires and a staggered release of hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israel. This plan also provides for a Palestinian government of technocrats responsible for a post-war Gaza. There's been no word from Israel on this report. The IDF raided a house of a Hamas fighter in the outskirts of Aliyah, inside that house, a wedding album with wedding pictures, but also there, photos of children holding weapons, grenades, RPG launchers, get this, children holding RPG launchers. Earlier this month, IDF video interrogations show just how Hamas has exploited children. It's something that's not discussed at Pro Hamas protests worldwide. It's something UNICEF seems to be silent about. A two-month-long investigative, extensive investigation by the New York Times shows the brutality that Hamas inflicted on women. On October the 7th, more than 150 people were interviewed. Details were so graphic about the systematic sexual attacks on women. Women groups around the world, including the United Nations, stood silent. Investigators with Israel's top national police unit have been gathering evidence. Now, since many of the victims are dead and buried, we may just never know how many victims there were. Joining me now live in the studio is Colonel Olivier Raffowicz. He's the IDF spokesperson for IDF Media. Thanks so much for joining us this morning. The IDF launched a new operation this morning. Can you tell us a little bit about what this operation is? Good morning. Good afternoon. Actually, there are today more troops in different areas in the Gaza Strip. A new operation has been decided and it has been launched in order to fight and to destroy Hamas terrorists and infrastructures from where they attacked on the 7th of October near Oath. The operation is called Oath near, sorry. And the goal is actually to get into this area. It's an area just in front of the near Oath kibbutz around 2 km from there. And the IDF is actually acting there and doing what they have to do. Is this to amass information as to how the attack was planned? Why is this specific site being targeted? This specific site is actually a place from where terrorists left the Gaza Strip and came into either a territory. It's quite close to Israel and close to near Oath kibbutz and you know the results. It was atrocities, it was rapes, it was killing, mass killing and terrorists came also with gathan people from the area. Not all the killers were specifically terrorists, I would say terrorists parts of Hamas or Islamic groups. There were also gathan people joining the mass killing on this day. And we know that we talk about thousands of terrorists with gathan people joining them. Civilians, these are not, so when people, when you see on social media, oh the innocent civilians of Gaza that they had nothing to do, this would seem strange. It is exactly what you just say now. It was terrorists, members of Hamas and also so called innocent civilians who joined this deadly party. You know, we know even about women who came with the men and they stole shoes of women. Some of them have been murdered and they took clothes, women clothes, women shoes to bring them together with terrorists. I mean it's awful, it's atrocities mixed with the kind of pogrom, pogrom atmosphere. And from this part in front of Nero's kibbutz they left and they came to kill. And so how does the IDF delineate who was a Hamas fighter and who was a civilian that may or may not have taken part in this? If you remember, of course you remember because you are part of this program for many months. Hamas has actually video everything. They took cameras, go pro cameras, they kill, meanwhile they rape and they film everything. So we have a lot of video film material that can be used by our intelligence agencies and intelligence offices to know who was where. The last week we actually arrested the terrorists leaving a school. Some of them were part of Nurba, which is actually what they call the elite commando unit from Hamas. They were actually part of the killing action on the 7th of October. So there has been some mention online about an Israeli strike, an IDF strike in Rafa next to the hospital there. Can you tell us a little bit more detail from that air? I have not all the details right now but what I can tell you that we know from the very beginning and that's one of the most difficult situations for the IDF that Hamas is actually all the time, all the time not only using civilian women and kids to kill or to try to kill using them as a human shield but they are also hiding themselves behind facilities or schools or mosques sometimes we have to strike on to it where they are shooting from or where they are actually situated but sometimes it can also eat because there is the shrapnels of their facilities. It is actually the result of the Hamas tactics that would even Hamas strategy against Israel. So do we have any indication have there been any injuries from IDF soldiers in that situation or do we have numbers yet because online when something like this happens it explodes part of the expression but all over. For now I cannot give you more details. Okay, understood. Let me reference, I'm going to have you stand by one second and we're going to go now to Robert Swift, I-24 news correspondent he's instead wrote in the southern part of Israel with more on what's happening right now. Robert go ahead. So just over an hour ago there was a launch of the rockets or mortars from out of the Gaza Strip into three Israeli communities close to the border there. This is the first launch of this sort of attack today. It's worth bearing in mind that the three communities that were targeted they're in close proximity to Qubit Itzah which is inside the Gaza Strip that's where the Israeli military said is conducting operations one of the neighborhoods of Canunis. Now the IDF have gone in there because it is it is the first time that they're entering that location since it was used as a base of operations to attack the Israeli community of near Oz which is on the border so it does appear that there is fighting taking place there. The IDF has said that Canunis in general as well as that neighborhood specifically are the focus of their attention at the moment and so it does appear that fighting continues there in the south of the Gaza Strip but we have also seen throughout the day that combat does continue in the north of the Gaza Strip also though possibly to a lower intensity. Great Roberts for joining us from the southern part of southern Israel right now from Stair Road. Thanks so much for joining us. Let me go back in studio now to Olivia Raffer which I just want to ask you a quick question like when this situation now in this particular area of Canunis at what point what is the objective when will the objective be met? Like what is the objective of that specific operation and when will it be considered met? If I may, I would like to give you a general update about the IDF situation right now against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. The fights are very fierce, are very serious in different points in the north still but also mostly in Canunis and in what we call center camps in the Gaza Strip and Hamas has still a position still with the pockets of terrorists against the IDF. What I can tell you and it's checked a few minutes ago the results of the fight between the IDF soldiers, combatants and the Hamas is a full and total victory. Tactical one every time that we are meeting them we are killing them and sometimes it's difficult to talk about it because no images no information coming out because it's inside and many of the actions are also underground because beneath the ground you have the tunnels we talk about not only 100 but maybe thousands of kilometers of tunnels with I would say sub-tunnels sub-branches exactly so sometimes very difficult to understand and even to show pictures but what I can tell you officially and publicly that the IDF is actually getting more and more results against Hamas we are killing them, we are meeting them they know it, they are also surrounding from time to time you see pictures we've seen video, yeah, but I'm sorry I'm bringing mass and when they are surrounding to the Israeli troops they also provide information for further Israeli actions so on a tactical strict point of view today the IDF is getting very good results against Hamas in the other strip we are moving on, we are moving on step by steps, we have a lot of troops I would say even tens of thousands of troops are in the strip right now I would say the best of the best of the Israeli army and it's also a terrible pain when we see that we are losing soldiers and if I may I would like also through your channels your program salute all the soldiers who are fall during the combats and be with the families in these very tough days and also wish prompt recovery for the wounded. As do we, we share in that as well as we see what is happening in the south we should also pay mind to what's happening to the north as well against Hezbollah there have been reports which you may or may not be able to comment on that more munitions are headed from Iran to Hezbollah that says that IDF should be prepared for something more He also want to be a little bit in the explanation of the situation since the 8th of October so a day after the 7th Hezbollah joined the war by actually assisting Hamas by opening a new front in the northern border between Israel and Lebanon and we have incidents every day more or less in the last 2 or 3 weeks with more anti-tank missiles not only against military facilities from the Israeli side but also like against a church or villages or or Moshevin they even destroyed a poultry industry along the border 100,000 people have left the area so the army, the Israeli army is actually along all the border prepared for all development but I would say that we are prepared right now in a defensive position not offensive but here I want to be clear and I want also to convey a message If Hezbollah with the Iranian support because they cannot do anything without Iran decide to go to a further escalation the Israeli reaction will be very tough and messages have been sent by different also by defense minister and by chief of general staff that Israel will not let Hezbollah attack Israel and the response the reaction will be very serious against Lebanon and Lebanon will pay the price of Hezbollah I would say military adventurism supported by Iran they take a big risk and they know it they know about it now we respond very tough in the last three months we have killed around 150 terrorists from Hezbollah on other operatives working with Hezbollah so all together it's a very tense situation but still under control and we don't want war but we are prepared for more if Hezbollah continues to attack Israel message sent thank you so much for joining us thanks again the latter business school collaboration with Harvard University Harvard has been the focal point of anti-semitism on American campuses earlier this month Harvard's president just could not clearly condemn the anti-semitic pro Hamas protests on her campus and that led to prominent Harvard donors to yank some funding join me now is Daniella Scheinfeld she's the head of communications and marketing at the latter business school she's joining us now from Vienna Daniella talked a little bit about for our audience who may not know what exactly was the tie between the latter school and Harvard we were part of their microeconomics and competitors network which is basically to short it up in one sentence it's a network that once a year we are sending one of our professors to the Harvard University together with a network of over 100 business schools around the world and in this place they are basically exchanging and learning and taking courses which are taught in Harvard business school and then implemented into the university in our case into the latter business school so by cutting the collaboration what does that mean exactly for those of us who don't know what is that does it mean cutting funding does it mean cutting the exchange program a relationship it's cutting the network we're just basically saying we don't after the recent circumstances of what's happening on the American campuses in which they lack in our position lack of reaction from their side and we decided that we don't want to be part of a network which is created and collaborated by the Harvard business school now does this come from Mr. Lauder himself how did this all start exactly with this cutting well Ambassador Lauder is our founder of our university here in Vienna Austria and he's the president of our university however as he was not the answer is no as he was not part of making the decision to join the network of course he was not even part of the decision to go out of the network as it's operational decision created by the board of Lauder business school understood and Daniela what exactly was the what was the reasoning behind it I mean you mentioned that it was recent events but was there something that really that really got I mean there was the Harvard president as you may know a few months a few weeks ago went in front of Congress and even after being asked I would say maybe 10 15 I watched this I watched this testimony 10 15 times was asked to speak out against anti-Semitism on campus against pro Hamas pro terrorist protests on campus she just could not say that she was against it and then had to go back track afterwards a couple weeks a couple days after after a whole thing blew up in her face and she had to go back it was it was that the reasoning or what exactly what were the chain of events as you can imagine we don't know more than you know we were following you know what was said and done or didn't do in this respect towards the Jewish students on the campuses you know they know it we know it and as of course we understood that we cannot move the Harvard business school however we can move our institution and we when we made this decision because a lot of asking why we made this decision that when we made the decision when we executed the decision and when we announced the decision this is was our answer louder business school answer to that I think it's a great question to repeat as we all know you know we know the rest of the world know what happened and what was needed to be done and was not made by this leading I believe University in the United States with billions of dollars in endowment I might want to add in case people weren't sure about that and then so one question if I may miss shine felt have you received any backlash from this decision has have you been because what generally happens in the U.S. is somebody makes makes a bold pronouncement and then within minutes you'll get something you'll get a social media flame back that says oh how dare you your stifling people were surprised by that we were surprised with that because as I said to you before I mentioned it was an answer to our community our academic community not everyone is happy about this decision however we had a broad agreement and in general I can say as I said it was a broad agreement and mainly our head of faculties our academic community the friends of Lauderd I'll cut you off by accident please go ahead so this is what we need to say that we were very surprised about the broad agreement the support from our faculty from our student body from our alumni community and of course there is always their back noises which are less positive but it was our decision and fully standing behind it and we were proud that even a small step we are very boutique university a soul Jewish university here on the land of Europe and as that it was our small very small contribution that we could do in the sense of the recent events and we support our Jewish student community which is coming from all around the world more than 45 different nationalities of Jewish students are hosted over the years on the campus of Lauderd fantastic Daniela Scheinfeld thank you so much for your comments and thank you for taking some time with us today Daniela Scheinfeld the head of communications marketing for the latter business school joining us live from Vienna, Austria thank you at some point families will be allowed back into the area known as the Otef Gaza the area in Israel on the border with Gaza there are going to be some rebuilding but a new project led by the Israel Antiquities Authority and other bodies is looking to document and to preserve the destruction of the area so that no one ever forgets what happened on October the 7th I-24 news reporter Uri Shapira has more archaeology is often used to document and preserve items from the ancient history this time it's being used to do the same thing to something which occurred only a few months ago the Hamas onslaught of October 7 this is a a massive project I think it must be the the biggest and most complex project ever undertaken in Israel of this nature I would say furthermore that it's the most complex in as much as it is very integrated from the technological point of view but added to that there is this tremendous sense of urgency everything has to be done at the best possible level at the fastest possible time with the greatest possible sensitivity it's a joint project of the Israel Antiquities Authority the Ministry of Heritage and the Kuma administration which was established after October 7 the main goal is to document the devastation of the Gaza envelope area we create the base a 3D very detailed base for the memory for the virtual museum that will happen for many many other uses of the 3D model after those the buildings here would be demolished we'll have the exact copy of those buildings in the computer and we can build our memory on top of that the 3D model of those buildings which is really really accurate would be an evidence that can be used either in court or either in the public domain in the social media to confront the claim that didn't happen which is already happening and I think the third main objective is to be a warning sign what happens when extreme religious is attacking you is confronting you in a brutal way the project is taking place in several main locations in the Gaza envelope Kibbutz near Oz is one of the places which suffer the most from the Hamas attack the group consisting of camera man archaeologists and experts is using advanced technologies to get the best possible results we're using a few methods of photography first high resolution cameras Sony cameras for a very high resolution 61 megapixel cameras we're using drones to take photos from above and we are also using lighter scanners it's a laser for the best resolution and we merge all these technologies together to get the best model that we can get the first house the team is walking on the house and the Kibbutz family managed to survive the attack after they escaped and hid in a safe room adjacent to the house Ron Bahat resident of near Oz says that despite the sensitivity of the issue he believes in the value of this project something happened here that never happened before I think it is significant to document and to commemorate it I think that some of those who've been here will see the event for the next generations on the one hand there is a call to rebuild the Kibbutz and bring life to what it was before on the other hand it is clear that it is important to show what happened here it is clear that some of the people are not even at this stage of thinking ahead about collecting evidence I believe that this project is top priority this burn structure was the local kindergarten of near Oz we can still see traces of the life that was here before the fire such as happy new year cards made only two weeks before the attack the 3D model tries to give one the opportunity to tour this site which is inaccessible to most people as you can see it's all black it's all burnt it's really hard to see so what we do is we use a bright flash when we photograph we shoot the whole area with the digital camera from all the areas around to give a clear view of every feature that we see and you can see it in the model later on there were no people here because it was Saturday morning so the kindergarten was left as it is and you can see the ash layer is set on the tables and all the stuff our next stop is the house of Oded and Jocheved Lifshitz close to the Kibbutz fence the elderly couple was abducted to Gaza and only Jocheved has so far returned photographer Maya Hadash tells us about her personal interest in this project which is different from most of her work it's a very technical work I always need to understand the 360 perspective of the building and what is the drone getting from above and what I need to complete how can I complete the drone from different angles also from ground level and up level and also inside this also question of the line between observation and voyeurism in recent weeks we have seen hundreds of people who come to view the broken houses of the Gaza border something that may be disturbing for some and significant and meaningful for others I mean you got to see it it's like everything bad that happens to the Jewish people you need to record it it's like the camps in World War II where the pogroms happened you need to preserve some of it always always remember to stay on the war here on I-24 News on TV online at I-24 News dot TV and alerts on your phone with the I-24 News app I'm Albert Lewitson reporting live from Tel Aviv the news continues after the break you're watching I-24 News Made For Me a unique concept in Israel custom made men's fashion to your measurements Made For Me designer of all your events schedule your appointment at I-L Made For Me official dresser of I-24 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kilometers south of Hebron north of Oteniel one is in moderate condition the three others were slightly injured the terrorist has been neutralized another Israeli soldier has been killed in action Captain Heil Shardvit was killed fighting in northern Gaza the 33 year old was a combat officer in the 7,000 8th battalion he was from the Kochab Yaakov settlement he's being laid to rest right now on Monarchal in Jerusalem Shardvit's death raises the Gaza ground operation to 168 Hamas officials are expected in Cairo later today to discuss an Egyptian plan for a ceasefire Egypt laid out the plan last week to Hamas into Islamic Shahad the plan involves renewable ceasefires and staggered release of hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israel this plan also provides for a Palestinian government of technocrats responsible for a post-war Gaza there is no word from Israel on this report the IDF raided a house of a Hamas fighter in the outskirts of Jabalia inside that house a wedding album with pictures and also photos of children holding weapons, grenades RPG launchers, now let that sink in again children holding RPG launchers earlier this month IDF video interrogation showed just how Hamas has exploited children something that's not discussed that Hamas protests worldwide UNICEF seems to be silent about that a two month long extensive investigation by the New York Times shows the brutality that Hamas inflicted on women on October the 7th and 150 people were interviewed for this series details are so graphic about the systematic sexual attacks on women women groups around the world including the United Nations have apparently stood silent investigators with Israel's top national police unit have been gathering evidence and since many of the victims are dead and buried we just may never know how many victims there were we have live team coverage of all that's happening right now today in the war in Gaza we now begin first with Robert Swift who is the correspondent joining us from Steroot in southern Israel Robert this morning there were a barrage of rockets headed from the south from Gaza into the southern part of Israel what's happened since? Yeah that was about two hours ago there was a launch of rockets into three communities down near the southern end of the the Gaza envelope the fighting continues in the Gaza Strip the main focus of the combat as far as the largest urban area in the south of Gaza Strip but there is also fighting taking place elsewhere in the central parts of the Gaza Strip and also in the north where as you say the soldier was killed yesterday now we're standing in Steroot right next to the main army checkpoint into the main entrance into the city and something that we've noticed is first of all the fact that there are many vehicles driving past us there's lots of people coming into the city including some cars carrying small children families returning to Steroot these appear to be residents but at the same time while we've been moving in and around the city it still remains somewhat of a ghost town during the first two to three weeks of the war essentially there was nobody but military personnel in the city that's not quite the situation now there were residents but nonetheless about 80% of people do seem to be staying away the majority of them staying in hotels and it's just been reported in the last couple of hours that the Steroot municipality has told residents that it believes that they will be their hotel stays will be covered up until at least the 31st of January with an additional decision to come afterwards as to whether that is the case but that's the situation in Steroot close to the Gaza Strip but there's also many villages and kibbutz further to the south of this city many of them which are even quieter even emptier than this city is Robert just a question in terms of life you mentioned the cars going back into the city that people are getting ready this is the beginning before the weekend this is the weekend technically in Israel are shops open are there is life normal I would put it in quotations is it back to normal it's definitely not there's a couple of strip malls that we've driven past here and every single shop is closed you can find the occasional cafe if you look hard enough but the vast majority of businesses here are closed up tight there are residents coming back but they don't appear to be moving back into the town to live here not at scale and not for the foreseeable future I think some people are coming back maybe for a night possibly spending she-bat here or others I've spoken to in the past they come back for a quick stop whether it's to collect some valuables to take back to the hotel whether it's to feed the dogs people have the reasons for coming back but many of them they keep their short their visits here brief that's right because Robert I have many people who are watching from around the world in England don't understand that a quarter million Israelis from the area of El Chef Gaza which is basically the borderline within Gaza they were all moved out they were displaced and many of them are in hotels all around the south in fact here in Tel Aviv you can see families are basically been camped out in hotels I mean this is something that most people outside of Israel don't understand and so when they're coming back they're going to come back to sterile they need but they're planning on staying here in Tel Aviv or in other areas all around Israel for weeks if not months to come that's right it does appear that for many of these people they don't particularly want to stay to spend longer in hotels but that is the situation it's preferable to moving back here residents of sterile are fairly accustomed to having rockets fired at them it's been happening for well over 10 years now but it's the level of the attacks on the 7th of October which convinced many of them to leave not to mention them being then told afterwards by the military that they had to vacate it's worth bearing in mind that in the north of Israel there's a similar situation with many of the communities along the northern border also evacuated and if you're moving around in Tel Aviv and you're passing the hotels you can quite often see that many of these hotels do appear to be fairly busy despite the fact that there's no tourists in Israel and that's because many of them are accommodating the residents who've been evacuated either from this area around the Gaza Strip or from the north Great, Robert Swift joining us live now from Steyrout in southern Israel thanks so much for joining us I want to continue our live team coverage from I-24 now joining us here in studio is Lieutenant Colonel Doron Abitah the former commander of the Special Forces for the IDF thanks so much for joining us let's first start with this ramming attack that occurred in the West Bank it seems as though while all eyes are focused on Gaza things in the West Bank aren't any change in that matter I think we put a lot of effort in the last three months in the West Bank specifically in the northern Samaria this is an attack in Hebron of course it's hard to protect against an individual that comes with a knife or a ram's with his car but all around I think we arrested like hundreds of prisoners maybe 700 maybe much more and we are all the time intercepting terror attempts so I think the pressure on the West Bank is strong and succeeds to contain the possible violence that can come out from the West Bank this is a front and it's being taken care but it's a real front we have to be very careful This is one front of seven fronts let's talk about seven fronts you've got West Bank you've got Gaza you've got north Hezbollah you've got Houthis and you've got Iran that's five I'm counting keep going Syrian front because we have the Shia the militia in the southern part of Syria are trying to facilitate some attacks and we have a few attacks our attacks in Syria including something I'm not sure we took responsibility for but it was an assassination of Iran in general near Damascus so you've been counting I think how many fronts Six or seven probably I mean it's unprecedented in the sense for Israel Usually when we talked about great victories with three fronts the Egyptian, the Jordanian and the Syrian now we have a few fronts in different kind of magnitude but of course what we are really worried about is the Hezbollah in the north and yesterday there was some escalation in terms of the range of their attacks their attacks but also ours deep in Lebanon and we don't want and maybe they don't but who knows to see escalation in the north there's these diplomatic campaigns of course I think Iran has sent over some more guided missiles towards Hezbollah We are very careful about Iranian weaponry coming from Damascus airport from other venues and usually when the intelligence is good we succeed to hit them on arrival or on the way we did it a few times on those borders Yes the weaponry from Iran but Hezbollah still has to make its move it doesn't seem it wants he wants but who knows Alright so let's talk a little bit about Hezbollah and its proxy Iran this morning many Israelis woke up to a post by Naftali Bennett to the Wall Street Journal in Abed where he I'm going to show a graphic of some of the he put out that he as Prime Minister allowed for if not directed and directed and signed off on an operation inside Iran itself this is something Prime Minister doesn't talk I mean we don't have that I'm not sure about the wisdom behind such a bragging I don't think we need this bragging in general I think if there's something we take we should take as a lesson from what happened in the center of October so bragging doesn't lead you nowhere and you have to be very careful So now I'm putting up on the screen now here because after the blowback he then went on Twitter Naftali Bennett went on Twitter and he's let me just read in case the font is very small here so let me read it the problem with Iran is not the publication of moves we made already public knowledge but that they hold us hostage through Hamas and Hezbollah and even the Houthis the governments of the last decade talk and make speeches but don't exact a painful price from the leaders of Iran I'm not sure the attack that he takes he was by the way a soldier in my unit in the times in which I was a deputy commander I think we have to be very careful the way we handle Iran we have to handle Iran together with allies I mean Iran is not a campaign that as well takes all by itself of course he's alive let's talk a little bit about that I mean the fact that he comes out publicly and says this I mean yes Iran is in Israel's eyes the enemy right is the number one but there's a I mean even US presidents I'm going to take an American example right US presidents are sworn secrecy over eva situations you don't talk about how is Osama bin Laden can I see the body like we don't know where he is so there's certain things you're not allowed to say I mean I think it was Kissinger who said one that Israel doesn't have foreign policy but only internal policy politics that governs everything so this is part of the internal politics in the campaign about credit that would go on once they will we go into some political campaign in Israel which might not take long I think the coalition is not stable but here's someone who wants to be Prime Minister here's someone who my feeling this bragging is I would say I would I'm sure not wise and I'm not sure I should have done it but he follows in the footsteps of somebody else of Bibi Netanyahu who is very quick to brag about for example you know the Iranian archive and things like this also some chief of staff bragging about intercepting this specific vehicle crossing the border from Iraq to Syria with this weaponry I think we have to go back to the old the old style the old style they wouldn't brag even when we hit this Syrian nuclear we said nothing about that I mean it was in the old times it was for years people didn't take responsibility not taking responsibility and not coming public about this is different this is different between not taking responsibility versus we just don't let people know or Israel doesn't let people know I think it's important because we don't because once you made things public or let people know so you do two things you you make the enemy has to take a move or act second you might be jeopardizing your assets your intelligence asset because every operation like this since an operational intelligence asset that we have and we don't want to waste intelligence intelligence asset for no good reason I mean and this is a good lesson that every intelligence officers will tell you so I think it's not wise there is a school of thought however that feels like well what exactly is the big deal like the Iranians probably already know this to happen that was the Israelis involved right so what's the point so we make it public big deal actually it's even better that we make it public because then people the common people on the street I'm comments probably not the right word for it but the people on the shoot will see we're strong haha we did this I think this logic didn't prove in itself in the last 15 years and this is how we found ourselves in this terrible failure in the 7th of October we were jeopardizing our intelligence asset instead of fighting the war wisely as we should together by the way in sync with our allies I mean the fact that we made the move against our allies I mean I'm talking about being in Tania in terms of the Iranian agreement I never thought it was a wise move and I think right now in the Gaza front we really need our allies with us so think what we need if another front opens up and if we go full blown war not even against Hezbollah but against and you play global act global and think global and world global and some of this is also taking part in terms of the day-to-day operations right now I mean your idea of former had a special special command what we're seeing a Khan use isn't on broadcast streamed isn't live streamed isn't shown on TV there's there is however that secretive is not the right word for it maybe say that you have to keep in order to facilitate the moves on the ground because if the secrecy is breached then the military does some damage to your operation for sure for example people ask me what do we know about where the hostages are located what do you know about where the leadership of Hamas and Hanyan is we can estimate we can say roughly things but if even had I know that known the intelligence that our generals would say I wouldn't share it of course publicly in the midst of a war I think we're in the midst of the war we have to think in terms of people that are in the midst of the war I mean and certainly no one know about the CIA or MI6, we all have actions around the way. I mean I come from a for a unit that most of it's operation most operation that I commanded are not known to the public the secret the secret for 20 30 years where even technically we're not allowed to discuss them in no other way have to go for censorship or the committee of ministers that would approve any any link or any link to this kind of operation you have to be very very careful about those things. Sometimes, of course, some things are known. They belong to the past. This doesn't belong to the past. It's very concrete. We have to be very careful about it. Israel never took responsibility for the cyber attack, the stuck net back then with the Americans. So why to go out loud? I mean, there was a famous doco that says Israel was there. The fingerprints of Israel are there, but Israel never came out. No leader came out and says, yes, this is us. You have to be very careful about this. This is a war that is being fought in different layers. And the secret warfare is part of the war in terms to be conducted in this way and not to jeopardize our intelligence asset. This is key. Great. I want to thank you very much. Lieutenant Colonel Doronov, you tell the former commander of Special Forces for the idea. Thank you again for coming in. Thank you for analysis. There is a story that we want to bring you about the attacks that occurred on October the 7th. A terrible, as you know, the terrible situation where many, many women were attacked. And it was used, the idea of rape was used as a sexual, as a weapon, weaponized battle against the Israelis. This is done by Hamas. I'm going to show you a clip now from something called Hamas Rape Me Too Movement. Take a look. No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! Hello, sweetie. I was sent by a human rights organization. How are you? A powerful clip was brought together by the Hamas Rape Me Too Movement. And Avishag Nawab, you know him, is the initiator and a project manager for that movement. She joins us now from Ashkelon in southern Israel. Thanks so much for joining us, Avishag. Thank you for having me. Let's talk a little bit about this horrible, horrible situation that occurred on October the 7th when Hamas came in and the Kibbutzes at the rave and attacked women systematically. This wasn't just a one-situation event. This was from what The New York Times even put out today. There are at least seven locations where women were attacked. It sounds as though what many people don't understand is just how systematic the rape of women occurred and how it was all directed by Hamas. Absolutely. I think that all the reports that are coming right now, they're coming in a very big late. You can call it that way because the IDF, about a month and a half ago, they published the glossary they were found near Ra'im Kibbutz, which shows evidence for the instructions of Hamas terrorists how to commit these atrocities, this sexual assault on women, on girls, and even boys, and men. So the evidence were already out there, if it's by the documentations of Hamas themselves, the glossary that was found near Ra'im and the confessions of many of the terrorists that were interrogated shortly after October 7th. So all the publications that we are seeing right now are very, very needed because of the global and vast denial of what happened. But still, it's too late. It's too little and it's too late. The damage has already been done. Many doubt of what happened. Many say that we took the time in order to invent those evidence, so-called. They were out there already on the first weeks after the October 7th, and nobody cared. Nobody did anything about it. No women's rights organizations, none of them, human rights organizations, even children's rights organizations, which are initiative research. We researched, we monitored the social assets of 50 organizations for two months. And maybe a few really acknowledged the atrocities. And later on, they published the sexual assault that were committed, and they condemned it. But very few. The vast majority were silent. They justified it. Some of them, women for women, the international organization, until now they're trying to balance between what happened to Israeli women, to what happened, for instance, for Palestinian female terrorists who are held in Israel. Right, so let's talk about this. I have a shot for one second, if I may. So I'll make it very simple, all right? If the women weren't Jewish, we wouldn't have been talking about this, right? So this is really what it boils down to. It boils down to the fact that a lot of these women rights groups, the moment that there is Israeli women, it's like, we don't want to get involved in it. But if the tables were turned, and if it was Muslim women, Boko Haram, for instance, if it was Christian women, as many of them are, you would see, it would be the United Nations coming in and helicopters to try to figure out what happened here. Absolutely. And I will even make it even stronger, what you're just saying, that it's not only Jewish people, only Jewish women. But look at what happened in Nigeria this Christmas. Around 200 people were massacred during Christmas mass. You didn't see any reports on it on the international media. And the only reports you've seen, they justified it by climate change. There is a systematic ideology that I don't know what is the motive of it, but they're trying to cover on Islamic extremist groups like Boko Haram, like Samas. As long as it doesn't happen to Muslim women, there is no news. You don't have to talk about it. It's OK to be silent. It's justified. This is insane, and I think we are heading to a very chaotic and very misleading world, because people are brainwashed, and they're not getting the news as they should get. They're not getting their facts. They're not even bothered to fact check themselves. And they are driven by insane ideology that really, I don't have any other words to describe it. Let me give you a prime example if I can. I'm just shocked. So today, The New York Times posted that article about the extensive investigation they had. 150 people that they interviewed that showed the systematic sexual assault of women in October 7th. And then if you look at the postings and comment section, if you go online and you see the Twitter or X comments to some people mentioning this article, all you hear is, well, what about Israel's bombing Gaza? What about it? And you get the what aboutism as opposed to the why aren't people just understanding if a woman is assaulted, sexually assaulted? Believe her. Don't worry about what is what other. It's as if it happened to your own daughter or your own sister. So where is the disconnect, especially in America? I don't understand where that disconnect happens. And maybe you can enlighten me or enlighten our audience. Is it because of the Jewish? Is it because there is really? Or is that disconnect? Because no one believes anything anyone says, no matter where you're from. I think anti-Semitism within the feminist community, it's not something that is new. You can read a lot about it. You know, the politics of identities, everything is, oh, any identity is OK until it gets to the Jews. Once you are Jewish and feminist, then something is not working. It's contradicting each other. And you can read a lot about the history of Jewish feminists and within working within the feminist communities around the world. They are subjected to a lot of pressure, a lot of hate, a lot of dehumanization. And it's all under the justification of you a Zionist or you're Jewish and you belong to the state of Israel. You have connections here and there. So they all the time connected to the nationality of Israel, which they don't know anything about. They are brainwashed about that as well. So the source of it, the origin of it, comes from deep lack of knowledge and brainwashing of the, unfortunately, the news outlets that fail to provide their job to report any time something is happening in Israel to report about the full picture, to see both sides and not just covering one side without understanding the other. So this lead eventually to a one-sided story, one narrative that is being spread all over the world. And people are believing, they really believe. Some of them are driven from hate and deep anti-Semitism. But some are really naive and they really believe what they're seeing and what they're hearing on the news. That Israel is their aggressor, that we are the colonizer. So they automatically, everything that's happened to Israelis or Jewish around the world, they justify it, it's justified. I wish I got to know, I just wanted to take this time to thank you so much for joining us. I wish I got to know, she's the initiator and the project manager for Hamas Rate Me Too movement. She's joined us live from. I just wanna add one sentence, it's really important. Very quickly, got five seconds. Yes, you can go on to the website, HamasRateMeToo.com and go to the wall in shame and click on the logos and send a generated email to the 50 organizations and universities that we've been researching, researching off. It's really, really important. I'm glad you said that. You could get the very latest here on I-24 News. 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