 Good morning everyone. Welcome to today's mentoring hour. People are just joining in. So I hope you have been looking forward to today's mentoring hour. It's an interesting topic. It's something that's been in the news for some time now and also you know a lot of questions. I'm sure we have a lot of questions clarifications etc. So we're looking forward to today's session. Okay so let's let's dive right in. Can somebody pray and then we'll get into today's mentoring hour. Can somebody pray and come at this time? Any one of the students if you'd like to pray please. Heavenly Father we just wish to thank you for this hour of mentoring and Holy Spirit we just pray that your leaders and minister to us in these times that we live in. Maybe draw close to you Father as we walk by faith and not by sight and we pray for blessing upon all the teachers and all the students in the college. In Jesus' precious name we pray. Amen. Thank you Sanjay. Now I just request Pastor Ashish to make the presentation and also take us through the session. What do you pastor? Thank you. Good morning everyone. Thank you for connecting to the call and I'll just share a few thoughts on what we are observing on the Middle East conflict. Just a little bit of a background and then a few scriptural references and then we just open it up for our time for questions and answers. I'll just share something. This is the notes from our post on the interns which we typically do you know second year for the semester so those of you who are going to do it or have done it you would probably be a little familiar with this. So just to understand a little bit on you know what we are seeing happening right now of course everything is surrounded or concerning Israel and the Palestinians. So Palestinians right now are living across in two regions one is known as the Gaza Strip which is on the west coast next to the right along the Mediterranean Sea and there is the west bank which is on the west side of River Jordan. River Jordan flows around here and so this region is known as the west bank west of River Jordan and Jerusalem of course is the main focal point and there is east Jerusalem east part of that old Jerusalem also of this old city which is right now predominantly under in open to the under Jordanian control and used by the Arabs for their worship and so on and then the western side of Jerusalem which had with the Jews and Maxis. So right now the conflict that we are seeing happening which began this current conflict began about a month ago in the Hamas which are a militant group of the Palestinians from Gaza city from Gaza they had a surprise attack on Israel and that particular Friday and Saturday actually killed over a thousand people it was this harsh and then Israel is now taking action and of course there's a lot of questions on you know what's right what's wrong etc etc but that's the conflict. From a biblical perspective what do we need to understand a little bit of the history just go back to some of the things that have happened which we know they've been you know when God called Abraham he called him so this this old region Middle East is a very you know significant significance very important for us the Bible. So a lot of things that we see in the Bible are happening in and around this region. God called Abraham out of the order of the Caledys which would be here in the modern day Iraq and he journeyed down into this part of the West Israel at that time the land of Canaan he came here and God said look I'm going to give you this part this region from the river Euphrates in the north to the river Nile in the south so that's I'm going to give that to you and your descendants that's the history of the region and then of course you know when Israel was when the the Hebrews were brought out of Egypt they came here to conquer this land and then they had to fight a lot of the tribes and possess this lands they had to fight against various tribes that included the Philistines which generally and people think are the ancestors of what today we know as the Palestinians. So they also have been living in the same region for a very long time and so you know so both of them both the Palestinians as well as the people of Israel the Jews claim this to be their homeland going back all the way to the Bible terms very back then. So both claim ownership of this land we were the original people here so that's a little bit of history and of course over you know a lot has happened we're not going to go through all the history that the Jews were scattered they were dispersed and they came back they were scattered again and so on but eventually what happened again another important thing to keep in mind is about the the worship that took place you know for the Jews the Temple Mount or the the region just outside of Jerusalem a part of Old City Jerusalem the Mount Moriah it's a very sacred place that's where Abraham offered Isaac that's where David came and he bought the place and later Solomon built the temple so this is the place where Solomon built the first temple that was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar it was rebuilt by Zerobabel during Ezra Zerobabel's time it was rebuilt it was later destroyed again in 1780 by the Romans Herod King Herod practice practice that had enlarged this place so what we know what we see today is the enlarged area that was done by King Herod in 1870 the Romans destroyed the temple and then later around 1000 AD the Muslims took over the entire region and then that's when around 1600 AD so they built their structure so we have here on the same Temple Mount we have the Dome of the Rock which we see here and the elapses are lost towards the wall on the temple on the Temple Mount so the Jews look at this as their sacred place the Arabs that the Muslims have their sacred structures already established on the same place and of course for us Christians Jerusalem and you know all of Israel is very sacred or pretty a special place because of our faith in Jesus Christ so you know three major old religions have their focus on Jerusalem and in and around Jerusalem but why is this significant now one of course for the Jews it's significant they want this place back they want to have their own temple here they believe you know Solomon's temple this place this is where Solomon built this temple it's very sacred it's very sacred place to them for us as believers bottom as Christians we know and this is mentioned to us in Revelation 11 that there will be a third temple which will be desecrated by the Antichrist in the middle of the Tribulation Revelation chapter 11 so we are also as Christians we are looking at what is happening in another place will this temple be rebuilt when will it be rebuilt and so on so that's again of interest to us I'll pause here and I'll just point us to a few passages of scripture and then we just open up for questions I want to point us to the book of Ezekiel so another very important piece of Bible prophecy in Revelation which we see in Revelation is what we refer to as a battle of Armageddon where the nations of the world are all going to convert around Jerusalem so the battle of Armageddon so that is also of interest to us as Christians as you know as we look at what's happening in the Middle East how nations are aligning themselves and so on let me just quickly share with you another graphic that would be of interest to us when we are looking at what's happening in the Middle East so the Bible speaks to us about the battle of Armageddon Revelation 16 and then Revelation 19 also spoke about Ezekiel chapter 15 so basically we are seeing that this happens in the northern part of Israel the valley of Jezreel that's also known as Megiddo that's where the battle of Armageddon take place and various nations will align themselves and Ezekiel in Ezekiel chapter 38 spoke about this so in Ezekiel chapter 38 verses 1 to 6 he talks about the land of Magal the Prince of Rosh Meshach and Tugel and these are really tribes which are now part of Russia and he says as Ezekiel says God the Prince of Rosh and Meshach and Tugel they will rise up and they will join hands with five with Persia which is Iran Ethiopia and Libya so they will all join together and they will move and also number six he talks about Gorma and Togarma which is modern day Turkey tribes in Turkey so they are all good align themselves and they're going to move towards Israel towards Jerusalem they're going to attack the nation and so he describes in Ezekiel 38 39 how this all you know the battle of Armageddon would take place and what would happen so this is again of interest to us looking at how all these nations are aligning themselves the other passage of scripture I just want to look at is in Joel chapter 3 and verses 1 and 2 Joel 3 1 and 2 Joel prophesied he said behold in those days and that time when I bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem so God is saying I'm going to bring the people of the Jews back to Jerusalem after they've been dispersed verse 2 I will also gather all nations and bring them down to the value of Jones but that's the battle of Armageddon and I will enter into judgment with them there on account of my people my heritage Israel whom they have scattered among the nations they have also divided up my land so what does God say he's saying after my people have been regathered in my land which officially you know 1948 Israel in announced so as a nation people have been regathered in that land was to God says I will gather all nations any imagine all the nations of the world are going to turn their focus on what's happening here in Jerusalem in Israel and they're going to come into battle here Joel prophesied and what is the main reason they have also divided up my land they have divided up my land so this Palestinian this Israel Arab conflict has been going on from since 1948 since Israel declared itself as a nation there was a sixth day war in 1967 Israel actually recaptured took over actually captured many parts the Golan Heights part of Lebanon much of you know what we know is as the West Bank does actually Israel recaptured took over and then in order to maintain peace they actually recaptured Jerusalem it's in the temple but then in order to maintain peace they you know handed over part of the temple for the Arabs for them to continue worship and so it's been in kind of a very delicate delicate position since that time the Palestinians want their own place they want their own identity but this conflict has been going on all you know the regularly there have been these wars conflicts killing happening some would be small some would be large what you're seeing now this very very significant very large and then other nations are trying to intervene and almost all nations are saying well the solution is a two-state solution give Israel its land give Palestine and the Palestinians their land now of course Israel's refusing to do that and here in Joel chapter three three verse two Joel prophesied they have also divided up my land so somehow this conflict is going to precipitate into this battle of Armageddon nations are going to come against Jerusalem and there's one reason they want to divide up the land in other words it seems like they're going to try to forcibly try to enforce this you know land being given over to the Palestinians and so on so that's what Joel prophesied of course we can look at what about the prophecies and the revelation in relation to all of this so in a sense the Bible has for tall conflicts here in Jerusalem and that Jerusalem will be a point of serious conflict and it'll lead to this battle what we put up at once the the battle of Armageddon and Zechariah chapter 14 once again Zechariah also has prophesied Zechariah 14 2 I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem so nations are going to get involved all of this so let me pause here we'll take specific questions I'm not doing a complete study on this but let's take specific questions that people feel they would like to ask concerning the Middle East conflict so if anyone has any specific questions that's been always on your mind you can post it here on the chat or you can unmute and ask and it'll be answered here's a question from Esther now that we know that this conflict could lead to all other nations getting involved as believers how should how must we be prepared or prepare others around us so for us we know again from the scriptures the prophetic scriptures we know when exactly this is going to happen we know that the battle of Armageddon is the final conflict and it's going to happen it's the last thing it's the final thing that's going to take place and with that is the coming of the Lord so Revelation chapter 19 talks about that you know as the nations are gathering in at the end of the you know the series of judgments that we have the nations beginning to gather in and then the Lord Jesus comes same thing Zechariah 14 Zechariah says that when this conflict is happening the Lord Jesus himself will descend on all of us but we know that's when it's going to happen and that's going to happen at the end of the seven years of tribulation and as believers we know that we will not be here during the seven years of tribulation the rapture of the church will be the first thing that takes place before the clock starts ticking on the seven years the rapture of the church and then the clock starts ticking then seven years right so as believers we will be taken out of the way the church will be caught up raptured and then the man of sin Revelation chapter 6 verse 1 the man of sin who comes riding on the white horse the Antichrist will be revealed so the church is literally going to be taken away so as believers we need to focus on that which is the catching of the other parts of the church we know that in seven years from then there's going to be the battle going to get in so we don't need to be worried about it we will not be here at that time so what we are going to focus on is the rapture of the church so as a church we need to prepare ourselves we're ready for the coming of the Lord and what should we do for others we need to focus on bringing the gospel to them getting them saved so that's the main focus while we are looking at how the nations are aligning themselves to see you know we can actually see China, Russia, Turkey, Iran some of the Middle East are all aligning themselves and on the other side you're saying the United States the United Kingdom some parts of Europe they're aligning themselves and the the fact that these nations are aligning themselves saying okay yeah maybe it's all this is building up to a battle going to get in we're not worried about that and looking at the rapture and we have two responsibilities one we should live ready for the coming of the Lord to proclaim the gospel and get as many people saved so that they can be part of the great rapture of the church that's how that should be our focus as a church thank you master i think that clears a lot of things to focus on the rapture and what you know leads up to that okay here's a this is from Lucy the conflicts which are happening around us most most of them are around our rapture so why are we experiencing much earlier before rapture why are we experiencing these conflicts before rapture so let's see just to you know state it correctly these conflicts are actually a build up to that battle of armadillos so if you if you're even you read in Matthew 24 the disciples are Jesus Lord what will be the signs of your coming so then Jesus begins to give a lot of signs Matthew 24 the first 15 verses and he talks about families, vestalences, wars, ruins of wars false christs all of these things are happening but these are a prelude that means they are a builder to the coming of the Antichrist the beginning of the tribulation because then he says after he gives all of that then he says then there will be this man of sin the son of desolation whom Daniel spoke about that's the Antichrist right so we are in doubt the early part of Matthew 24 where all these things are happening these things will happen these conflicts wars, rumors of wars, pestilences, epidemics all these things will be happening but these are all prelude then they're up to the church then will be the great tribulation meaning these things will escalate and when you read from Revelation 6 onwards everything is magnified many times open the kind of devastation that takes place during the tribulation is much than what we are seeing seeing right now so the things we're experiencing are only a lead up to the great tribulation the 70s of tribulation and the second half of the tribulation is referred to as a great tribulation even even more devastating thank you Pastor so one quick question is so since this is all this is unfolding before us and we know the mandate of the church is to go ahead share the gospel etc but what should be the stand of the church you know because we get asked that question many times you know so even recently you know so what are you you know are you for Jerusalem is Israel right in doing this in this kind of you know retaliation and so on so how should we look at this on one side because we know this is Bible prophecy unfolding on the other side we see the like the human you know the devastation that is happening and yeah and when we see the injustice so how should we really see this how should we respond to this yeah so this is a very very difficult question very challenging question because if you look at it just from a you know from an objective look at it very objectively of course what Hamas did a month ago was wrong right they did a surprise attack and killed over a thousand Israelis that was wrong innocent civilians it was wrong but people would say and say well the reason Hamas did it was because of the oppression that they were suffering for a long time for many decades since 1967 we are talking about almost 50 years so they were being oppressed and this is part of that whole retaliation or aggression showing that they don't want to tolerate that aggression so that's how they justify their action Israel as a nation in doing what they're doing they're saying look we are going after Hamas we want to completely destroy them for what they've done to our people we have a right to protect our own citizens and so Israel is justifying their actions so they're going after Hamas but the sad part is innocent civilians are caught in the middle of this right and that's where the tragedy is that literally thousands I think the numbers cross 10,000 now of innocent people have been caught in this whole conflict so it's very difficult to I mean both sides to have the reasons to justify their actions and I talked about the Hamas the militant program in Israel and taking in defending themselves what should our response be our response should definitely be that we do not want and nobody wants innocent civilians to suffer so whatever can be done to protect them should be done these are we can only express our opinions it's the leaders of the nations who ultimately can make their decisions and they're going to lead their nations the way they feel most correct but we can only express our opinions and we definitely care about the civilians of suffering they should not suffer like this but at the same time we understand both sides that they're coming from the Palestinians and feel they're mistreated for a long time their voices aren't being heard these Israelis of course want to protect their own people defend their own land we understand both sides and I think I think we should be in that sense in mutual that means we are being humane because we don't want people are people whether they are Palestinians or Israelis they are people God created them both and we need to care for them both but as believers we understand from our biblical prophetic point of view where this is all leading to eventually nations are going to get involved it's going to lead to that and so we know biblically this is what's going to play out so we are very aware of it and we want to pray in our hearts to say a lot that there will be peace in Jerusalem so I think our position should be humane that means we are all humans we care about people biblically we understand how things are going to unfold and we want to pray for peace in Jerusalem so we really are not necessarily taking sides but we are being objective in our assessment of things or response to things so pastor just a follow-up so working towards peace is that okay when we know that the end is going to be conflict and even more conflict working towards peace and also even humanitarian support would that be okay would that be right like if the church would take up that stand and also follow-up with humanitarian support for those who are suffering in the region so but we know at the end that it is only eventually going to be more conflict nation again nation so like even the whole aspect of praying for peace so how do we see that praying for peace working towards peace and you know humanitarian support for those who are suffering in the light of again bible prophecy that eventually this is how it's going to end up how do we work that out yeah I think I think we must and it's easy for me to talk because I'm not doing anything it's like they're here we're not really doing anything but in the speaking in general terms for for people who may have the opportunity to do something like to actually bear on the situation be definitely must work for peace that is we don't want people to suffer whether they're Israelis or Palestinians we don't want anyone to suffer so we definitely have to work for peace so we must definitely those who can must provide humanitarian aid to help those who are caught in this conflict both sides right now it's primarily the Palestinians they need help so we definitely have to you know be able to get help to and the goal must be to resolve this in a peaceful manner now we know things are going to end up in in the bar but I think we should look at we just look at another example for instance we know that one day this planet according to second Peter chapter 3 is going to be destroyed with fire everything is going to be destroyed there's going to be new heavens never but yet at the same time today we do what we can to take care of the planet it means you know each one doesn't they're a little bit of trying to protect the planet or the environment we don't live with the attitude that hey I know this planet is going to be destroyed and there's going to be new heavens and new earth so I don't care about it now no we don't live like that we even though we know what the future brick is with homes we live as good stewards today so I think we would apply the same logic here into this situation that we know eventually how things are going to turn out there's going to be this great conflict but today what can we do to care for people what can we do to you know help what can we do to maintain peace those are those should be our efforts although we know that eventually the way things are going to unfold is going to be in final conflict here right pastor thank you we have few questions here from Sanjay the church is divided as far as rapture is concerned many believe only the second coming or a post rapture will the rapture be only for those who are waiting on the Lord Jesus Christ or is it for all believers who are still asleep yeah so Sanjay we know what the scriptures say in the sense of the description of the rapture we have this in first Thessalonians chapter 4 verse 14 to 18 you know so the first Corinthians chapter 15 the second part of it verse 45 to 58 where the apostle Paul in both these passages describe what exactly will happen in the rapture in the rapture everyone who died in Christ prior to that and those who are alive will all be changed the moment and we meet the Lord in the air so like you pointed out yes the church they had different the people have different positions positions on when this is going to take place will it take place before the tribulation middle of the tribulation end of the tribulation yeah and some don't believe in that that there are millions there's another purpose we will study that in detail in our end course on end times in the fourth semester but our positions and I'm just saying as a church our position is we believe in a free tribute creation pre tribulation rapture the church means the church will be taken out of the way and you know we can keep many reasons to back up that statement which we will do in our course on the end times in our fourth semester but I this maybe just as one one one first I'll point to second the Salonian chapter 2 verse 128 where the apostle Paul writes and says that that which restrains is restraining I mean that which restrains is taken out of the way then the man of sin the son of perdition will come so that which restrains we can show that is actually referring to the church because the Holy Spirit is going to be operating on the earth even through the tribulation people are going to be saying 144,200 are going to be anointed in power that to Revelation 7 Revelation 11 there's going to be the two witnesses anointed by God operating throughout the second half of tribulation so we see the activity of the Holy Spirit throughout the tribulation so the Holy Spirit is not taken out of the way so obviously then the church is taken out of the way and that's what we believe in a pre-tribulation after just but there are more reasons that we can state but thank you pastor Sanjay I hope that helped there's another question from Warren James I've seen many preachers pray for Israel but they stop short of praying for the Palestinians caught in the conflict shouldn't we be praying for everyone caught up in this conflict I think you kind of answered that earlier on that we should be humane we should be helping but your thoughts pastor should we be shouldn't we be praying for everyone yeah definitely we should you know we should engage the mission pray for everybody right um the scripture of Psalm 46 verse 9 says that God makes wars to cease he makes wars to cease to the ends of the earth so that is our God he's a God of peace he's the God who it makes wars to cease Psalm 46 verse 9 so we pray Lord let this thing come to an end you caused us to or to cease so we should definitely pray for just all people who are involved the Bible teaches us that right and first let me take two Peter two sorry Paul groups you know pray for all so pray for those who are not starting I pray for all that we may live peacefully that's what we do so that's part of what we do this is we don't take sides it's not that Israel life is more important than the palace now people are people they're all important we should be praying yeah thank you thank you pastor and I think Nina's Nina John's question is also answered um just as shouldn't we be praying for people of Israel and Palestine who do not recognize and believe in the messiah uh in a Jesus that he's peace so um any other questions Nina apart from this um you can post it uh is this question um are there any series messages or apc publication which is available beginning regarding the end times chronology of events um yes we do have a series on the end times uh like we did and um I'll try and post that um post the link here um we'll do that Nina John's Romans 9 6 says they are not all Israel who are of Israel how do we understand this Romans 9 verse 6 yeah so in Romans chapters 9 10 and 11 uh Paul is uh is talking about natural Israel and he's talking about the church so um if you need to understand this in Paul's writing so what Paul is emphasizing is uh that and then so you you need to read Romans 9 10 11 together because in 11 he brings out the summary of what he's saying where in I would just kind of reference Romans 11 where he's saying that God is going to continue working with natural Israel that means and I know Jews as we talk about people are born as descendants of Abraham part of Israel the Jews that's natural Israel but God has also through the church initiated what you know we would refer to as spiritual Israel or those who are born again through Jesus Christ so we are also considered descendants of Abraham like he says in Galatians 3 through Christ so that means you know in one sense we are for spiritual Jews you want to say that because you know in Galatians 3 Paul says if you are Christ's then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise that's in Galatians 3 okay so basically Paul is talking about spiritual Israel or beliefs the church is being spiritual Israel or spiritual descendants of Abraham so that's what he's talking about right so Romans 9 10 11 you can look at it in context with Galatians 3 and 4 in Prince Cloud so there's natural Israel and there is a church which in one sense Paul alludes to and refers to as the spiritual Israel although he never used that term by inference he can use that term so that's the distinction and the summary is in Romans 11 which is God is working through both God has not given up on natural Israel everything he promised for them he will fulfill and he's actually working to bringing us all together to faith in Christ thank you Pastor hope that helped Nina if you have any further questions you can post and also Esther Pastor Nancy has posted the link on the end time series that we did some time back so you can go through that I think it's a series of four or five messages you can check that out okay six messages actually yeah okay any further questions it could be about what we've been discussing so far or any other related topics or even completely different topics that you have questions on you could ask yes pastor I'd like to ask a question so we find that some of the churches some of the preachers as Warren said earlier that they take sides and even the preaching is very you know like very focused on bless Israel and we support Israel and I think it's being termed as being Zionist so pastor I know you've already mentioned we need to pray for both the both the the people groups but any comments on that pastor about the church and preachers taking sides and leading people to to focus only on Israel bless Israel and so on hmm I you know I wouldn't okay I'm just hearing my thoughts here I'm listening I feel that that kind of an approach is poor judgment because they're not looking at things objectively they're not looking at people as people right and anybody who's suffering needs help whether they're you know Jews or Palestinians or any other nationality group they have to look at people's people and that's that's what the Bible teaches and that's a God is right who is God someone 45 678 the Lord is good to all and his tender mercies are over all his works Jesus taught us that's all right so the Lord God makes the sun shine on the good and the bad he makes the rain to fall on the good and the evil that means you know God has he's trying to everybody so I think that should be a position while at the same time we acknowledge this God's working in Israel as an issue we know that biblically at the same time we should be very practical that you're active and hopefully care for people love people so so taking that position as you indicated that some Christian leaders do personally I wouldn't I don't appreciate that I wouldn't support it I wish we didn't do that but it's actually happening thank you pastor that's very helpful thank you thanks master thank you maxi for that question and we have a couple of scripture shared here by john paul and his question is do these verses imply the current events one is zephaniah two four or gaza shall be forsaken and ash galon desolate they shall drive out ash ash god is noon day etc and an acron shall be uprooted than zekhara 95 I think there was a lot of forwards saying that you know this is you know it's it's already written here this this particular conflict it's already in the bible and I think that's the reason for these are these verses implying what is actually unfolding before us right now so John so every time we read scripture uh we need to look at social scripture that is you know what we refer to as the immediate or near time fulfillment and then there is scripture that is prophetic in that sense of it being out in the future or talking about the end times and distinguishing that is always a challenge so how do we how can we recognize if there's a prophetic element to these passages like the ones reported the one way to tell is if that same aspect is repeated in the new testament in some form so case in point is equal to 38 had an immediate fulfillment a near time fulfillment where you know the the so the re-gathering of people had a near time fulfillment but all is equal to 37 and then is equal to 38 is reinforced for us in the new testament the book of revelation so that's why we can look back at passages like is equal to 38 Zechariah 14 Joel chapter 3 and then say that there is a prophetic element in all of these prophetic means an end time element in all of these passages because there is the new testament also in speaking of the same for the verses that we just mentioned here Zechariah 24 and Zechariah 95 we don't have that same thing happening from the new testament right so there is a near time fulfillment which actually happens the land was desolate it was taken of the kings but can we take these same passages and then say they are prophetic in nature referring to the end times no because we don't have anything saying the book of revelation especially pointing back to this and saying this is also going to happen in the end so we don't have them unlike what we do have for Joel 3 Zechariah 14 this is the 38 so my response to these two passages would be that they had a near time fulfillment and we should leave it with that just because you know they sound good given today's that doesn't mean we should introduce a prophetic element because in the Bible we don't find that that's how I would look at otherwise we could take a lot of old lessons scriptures and start saying all these are you know prophetic when actually it's not they're all had a near time fulfillment in those days itself. Right Pastor thank you we have another question from Nina John are the blessings promised by the Lord are they at a spiritual level or does physical Israel have a privileged place? Yeah so physical is a naturalism does have a privileged place God is dealing with natural Israel and in fact according to what Daniel said Daniel chapter 9 verse 24 to 27 Angel Gabriel he came he spoke to Daniel and he spoke about the 70 years 470 weeks and the last seven weeks and the 70 weeks are very specifically for Israel the last seven weeks which is the seven years of tribulation all has to do with natural Israel and how they are going to be effected so the blessings the judgments God's dealings with natural Israel is continuing and it will be heightened in the seven years of tribulation which according to Daniel 9 verse 24 was very specific that's why those seven years of tribulation call are referred to as the time of Jacob's trouble Daniel chapter 12 that seven years that is it's actually God's judgment and a lot of it has to do with naturalism so the blessings also apply to them the judgments also apply to them same thing God's dealings with the spiritualism of the church whatever God spoke in the church of course applies to the church so to answer your question Nina both there is God's dealings with both the blessings of God I have a question or something else then I hope that Nina hope that answers your question yeah okay thank you we just have a minute close so so I guess we'll close pray and close yeah I think it's 8.15 up we'll pray and close thank you pastor thank you so much for answering these questions and thank you everyone for posting these questions it's been a very fruitful session why don't we just pray and then we'll close right Father we thank you for this time we thank you for Lord all that is unfolding before us Lord in your time and in your purpose and Lord as a church Lord maybe rise up and take our right full place Lord in fulfilling the great commission Lord each one of us taking our position in terms of identity and intimacy and Lord are taking the gospel out of far regard to a dying world and master we pray for the people of Israel we pray for the people of Palestine even right now today God Father we pray for peace Lord amidst this conflict and Father we pray that there will be humanitarian aid which will reach them and I just pray that it'll be a time of Lord turning towards you who's the Prince of peace and I pray that eyes will be open that hearts will be Lord drawn to you of our regard and to the redemptive work of the cross Lord that you extending for each and every person Lord we thank you we come at this day into your mighty hands in Jesus matchless name we pray amen amen thank you everyone looking forward to next mentoring hour thank you God bless