 I like the good time, so. Three's company? I didn't like that one either. You didn't like any of the good ones? Yeah. There's nothing about it. I wasn't big in sitcoms, like, partially because when I was watching them as a kid, none of it was really relevant. When Roger was growing up, he only watched sad documentaries about starving children. No. They were happy documentaries about starving children. Macabre, happy documentaries. Oh, I used to watch Night Gallery all the time. I love that show in Twilight Town. Uh-huh. Rod Serling. I used to think his name was like up there with Hitchcock when he came to, or at least when he came to late. Well, that's Alfred Hitchcock Presents was, you know, a TV show of the same ilk at the same era, so that makes sense. Night Gallery went a step further because they made it a little more visual, grotesque. Although the ones with the rats, the giant rat and the rat on the moon, kind of stupid. You know, the ones with the rats. Except for Willard. Willard was kind of weird. Willard and Scott? Willard and then Ben. Wasn't Ben the sequel to Willard? Willard was the one where they remade it, but it was basically the kind of that lonesome boy you befriended there. I thought that was Ben. Then Ben was a sequel to something, though. It was? I thought Ben was the first one. Oh, was it? Or maybe? I don't know. I'm not going to state my reputation on it. I know it was Ben. I know that Michael Jackson had a number one song out of Ben. And horror film. It's a sequel. See, I was right. To the 1971 movie Willard. To Willard. There you go. I did not know that. Doubt me, will you? Yes. All right, you ready? Hiding. Here we go. Veronica, I need a verbal yes from you. Yes. It's like sitting in an exit row. Yes. Here we go. The Daily Tech News show is powered by its listeners, not outside organizations. If you get value from the show, consider giving a little back. As little as $1 a month keeps great tech news and analysis coming your way, commercial free. Find out more at DailyTechNewsShow.com slash support. This is The Daily Tech News for Monday, June 12, 2017. I'm Tom Mara, joining me Veronica Belmont, making your Mondays bright again. Right, Veronica? That's right. It's all we do. It's all we think about. It's all we plan for all weekend long, coming on Monday, and giving you the bot takes. Veronica is going to tell us whether we should go see a therapist. I mean, particularly, a bot therapist. We probably all need to see a therapist. It can't hurt, really. Yeah, but no, there's a couple of them out there. But one is actually going out on the limb and saying, it can improve you, not just a guidance thing. They're taking some stand that others haven't taken. I'm a little skeptical, but we will talk more about it in the main story. Let's start with a few tech things you should know about. The essential phone, that's the one from Andy Rubin's new company. It'll be launching on Sprint in the United States. And all the snarky blogs are laughing at Andy Rubin. Ha, ha, ha, you could only get Sprint. That's kind of, it's been kind of mean headline day for poor Andy Rubin. An unlocked version can be used on other networks as well. You don't have to use it just on Sprint. They're calling it the not so essential. I know. Isn't that mean? That's kind of hurtful. Microsoft will unify most versions of Minecraft around the bedrock engine with the Better Together update coming in August. Aside from the PS4 and Xbox 360, each version will share the same DLC, updates, and access to the community store with support for creating worlds across platform. That's a lot of Minecraft. Minecraft and 4K, although it's kind of eight bit blocky, so I'm not sure you need that. Here are some more top stories and more along the Microsoft announcements that don't forget. Microsoft had their announcement at E3 yesterday. Sony will have theirs today and we'll talk about Sony's announcement on tomorrow's show. But yesterday at E3, Microsoft officially unveiled the Xbox One X, previously codenamed Project Scorpio. The chip inside is still called the Scorpio when they referred to it during the keynote. Uses a liquid cooled custom AMD APU and 12 gigabytes of GDDR5 memory capable of six teraflops of graphical computation supporting 4K resolution at 60 frames per second. The console also includes an ultra HD Blu-ray drive, one terabyte of storage, retains an HDMI in connector, but does lose the connect port. Yeah, all Xbox One accessories will work with the console. The Xbox One X will go on sale worldwide November 7th for $499 and the Xbox One S, which they've set themselves up for pronunciation confusion here. The Xbox One S, as in Scorpio, but not Project Scorpio, see it just keeps getting confusing. Anyway, the existing Xbox One S is now $299. I keep wanting the name to be a palindrome. Did you see that? I tweeted that? No, I didn't. I said, yes, if they had named it the X, what did I say? The Xbox One Nox-Ob-X. It could have been a palindrome. Microsoft also announced the backward compatibility for original Xbox console games will be coming to Xbox One consoles later this year, all the Xbox One consoles. Support will need to be added per game, but original discs and Xbox Live purchases will work once supported. And that's their big deal here, is they're saying it's just the specs that are being updated. All your controllers, all your accessories, all your games will still work on the Xbox One X, whether you have bought them on an Xbox One or an Xbox One S in the past. It's just new insides. Do you think that's enough to make people want to get the Xbox now? I mean, it's not for me. I'm not like chomping at the bit to go get one. We have an older Xbox. That's the only console we really have left in the house, but I don't know. I mean, with all this backwards compatibility stuff, ah, goodness, are they gonna still, so new games will come out. They'll still be playable on the S. Yep, and the original Xbox One as well. Which is good, of course. And the Xbox One S does some 4K. It just doesn't have as much power inside to do the total native resolution. So Xbox One X indisputably better than the PS4 Pro at this moment, but not better enough to overcome game selection. So if the game you want is on PlayStation, you're probably still fine getting the PlayStation Pro. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I've been so off the console bit for a while now and pretty much exclusively PC. That to me, it doesn't really matter that much, but it seems like people are relatively excited. I mean, it's a lot of power for $499. I'm not gonna argue with that. And I think they're doing the right thing in keeping it 100% compatible. What's going on with the Kinect, though? Yeah, they just don't even care about the Kinect. They just don't. Poor Kinect. I know. According to a representative of Uber's board moving on, after a seven-hour meeting, the board unanimously voted to adopt the recommendations of Eric Holder's investigation into toxic company culture. Results of the investigation are expected to be released to employees on Tuesday, June 13th. Reuters reports that the board also discussed CEO Travis Kalanak temporarily stepping away from the company as the board narrows down the authority and scope of his position, which sources say is not one of the Holder report recommendations. Recode reports over SVP of business, Neil Michael sent an email to staff saying David Richter, the vice president of strategic initiatives will be taking his place. Yeah, so a couple of shoes waiting to drop. One is, does Travis take a step away? No one expects him to step down, but does he take a step away? Does he take a leave of absence? And the other was whether Neil Michael would stay in his position. And we got the answer to that a couple hours ago before the show. Neil Michael stopped being an employee of Uber yesterday. He sent an email today to the employees, but the email said, I no longer work here, everybody. And this is the guy who acquired Auto. He did a lot of the acquisitions that built Uber up in the early days and was considered essentially the right-hand man of Travis Kalanick. Now, a lot of people say not only will this clear up a lot of the company culture, that's the expectation, but it will allow Travis to buy or to buy, to hire someone who will clearly be a COO and number two versus being a COO and also having to compete with Neil Michael for Travis Kalanick's attention. Yes, yeah, it's crazy. I was watching all of, there were so many updates from the board meeting happening yesterday. It's so fascinating how emergency board meetings like this just take place on the weekend. And they were just leaking information out into the press. It was pretty fascinating to watch happen in real time. And we're gonna get some more of this tomorrow, one would expect because the briefing of the employees about the holder report will happen and I'm sure we'll get more details as that happened. Security firms ESET and DREGO are releasing detailed analyses of malware used in an attack on a power company called Ukrainego seven months ago. The malware was used in an attack on the electric transmission station north of Kiev, Ukraine, operated by Ukrainego, blocking out one-fifth of total power capacity for an hour. The malware, which is called Indestroyer, which is frankly my favorite of the alternate names for it, but everyone seems to be going with Crash Override, perhaps they're Crash Bandicoot fans. Wait, they're from hackers? Yeah. I thought that was from hackers, Crash Override. Crash Override, yeah. So that's probably why it has the, I like Indestroyer though, that's just powerful. Anyway, Crash Override, it's second known case of code built to disrupt physical systems. If you don't remember the first was Stuxnet used against Iranian centrifuges. Crash Override can automate mass power outages and the part that has security researchers both impressed and worried is swappable plug-in components. So even though this one was used against a Ukrainian system, those plug-in components could be adapted to be used against any electric utility as well as being usable when disconnected from the internet. It could be a logic bomb. Drago's Rodley says if power grid operators do closely monitor their control system networks, they should see this before it has a chance to unleash the payload. But that's the problem, is power grid operators in many cases do not closely monitor their control system networks. Well, why is that? Legacy, staffing, prioritization, like, yeah. Good question. They really need to get serious. And I think that's why ESET and Drago's are making a lot of this, making a lot out of this, is to say, look, this is serious, you guys. This was a test run that knocked off a major city or part of a major city for a significant amount of time, even if it's just an hour. And we think it was a test. We think it was a test run that they could then use against other systems. So while you have the chance, your electrical systems are eminently secureable, you just need to do it. And that is the summer of sharks that we are experiencing these days. This is the kind of wake up call that Justin and Robert Young was talking about last Thursday. Yeah, it's scary stuff. And it's just, I think it is only, as you said, probably going to get a lot worse in the future. Sorry, my Wi-Fi is being a little wonky, so if I'm not talking as much as because I'm waiting to catch up to you. It's probably just crash override. It's probably affecting my system as well, naturally. One of China's largest bike-sharing companies, Mo Bike, is launching their service with 1,000 bikes in Manchester and Salford in the UK, June 29th, their first service outside Asia. It operates in China and Singapore, and Chinese bike-sharing company, OFO, started a pilot program with 20 bikes in Cambridge two months ago. These are dockless services that users lock a bike anywhere. Yeah, so it's not like the ones you may be familiar with in the US where you have a bike rack that you rented for. City bike or city bike share. The these, you just lock the bike anywhere it's legal to lock a bike and the app logs where that location is, and that's how you find the next bike. So it spreads them around a lot more. They are working with the city of Manchester. Salford's just kind of a suburb of Manchester, so it's, Mo Bike is pretty much going into the Manchester area. And they've been working with Greater Manchester to make sure that these don't get locked up in the wrong places and cause impediments on sidewalks. And they're doing a lot of work, unlike ride-sharing companies in the past, they're doing a lot of work with the city to set this up for success. And it's huge. This kind of ride-sharing, this kind of bike-sharing is huge in China. A lot of bikes in San Francisco get stolen, the city bikes. And I think that maybe that would be negated a little bit if they did have some of these GPS tracking devices on them that weren't easily removable. But yeah, I see city bikes in, we have areas where you can go where you just see basically a bike graveyard or people like tearing apart bikes and those city bikes are always there also. So it's kind of a big problem here in American cities at least or at least in San Francisco. Yeah, and I don't know if some of the culture of China is such that it makes it work better there than it might in other places. So it'll be interesting to see how this catches on. Well, yeah, like in the Netherlands, for example, people don't worry about their bikes being stolen because everyone has one. It's not a crazy, expensive, fluticrous thing to own. Bikes in San Francisco can be very, very expensive and people need them for transportation, but they're not as ubiquitous as they are in other places. Yeah, and that makes all the difference. Can you get over that hump to where stealing a bike it just isn't profitable? It's not profitable, yeah. US banks are launching their mobile payment system called ZEL, Z-E-L-L-E, to pay people by phone number or email address. It's their Venmo competitor, but it's not an app. And I think that may be the mistake, but I'll explain why they're doing it this way. Customers can send payments to each other instantly. So even with Venmo, you have to wait. It'll tell you the transaction is happening instantly, but you have to wait for it to finish. Customers of JP Morgan, Bank of America Wells Fargo, US Bank, Corp of Capital One, automatically get this. A total of 30 national and regional banks and credit unions will work with it over the course of the next year, some of getting it sooner than others. And the network was created by an industry consortium called Early Warning Services, LLC. So the idea is if you're already using, say, quick pay from Citibank, you don't have to change your app, ZEL will start working in that app. Each bank can still have its own payment app, but someone using the Citibank app can use ZEL to send payment to somebody using the Bank of America app, and it will happen instantly. So the advantages here are that you get instant transactions and it works within the payment apps you're using unless you're using the popular ones, right? PayPal, Venmo, et cetera. Anyone can use ZEL by signing up. If you're like, I don't have a bank that uses ZEL, you can sign up for Clear Exchange, Digital Payments Network and use ZEL. And I think that's where it's going to have a problem. If you use your bank's app for payments, this is perfect, right? It doesn't require you to install anything. But how many of us do that? I pay a lot of my bills through my bank. Bill, sure, but this is payments to payment, person to person payments. Yeah, I just really do it between my husband and I, primarily for accounts we don't share paying into, for example, and it's kind of a pain because sometimes we have to use ACH and that costs like $3 or we have to send a lot of money over square cash and that takes time, it's not instant. So this sounds like actually a pretty good solution for that. Yeah, and I'm not damning it out of the gate, but I think it's smart for them to integrate it into the apps you already have. I would also put out a ZEL app and maybe it's still be powered by Clear Exchange but if you put out an app, people expect an app, they're like, okay, it's a Venmo competitor, where do I get it? This takes too long to explain. Well, if you have this bank, you already have it, but if you have this bank, you go and do this and sign up for that, just brand it, branded ZEL. And I know why they didn't because they're like, this is a system, not an app and we don't wanna be competing with each other. We want people to use our bank's app, but I think that's... So just use it like almost like a layer between the ZEL payment stuff and your bank so that like Mint, for example. Like you can see the transactions, it's like just another abstraction layer between your banking and you, but you can still use it to transfer money between accounts. I mean, I think it just helps for brand recognition. Like you said, people expect a customer-facing product and stuff like this. And BioCal points out, he works in the industry, by the way, if your bank uses it, then a lot of times you can sign up with a click. So I'm not saying they're doing it the wrong by having it integrated into the bank apps by any stretch. I get that. Hey, folks, if you wanna get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to DailyTechHeadlines.com. You can get it as a podcast, you can get it as a flash briefing on the Amazon Echo, or you can get it in the anchor app at anchor.fm. Wobby Tide. Those who use Wobot. I just wanted to say Wobby Tide, but Wired's Megan Molteni wrote up Wobot on Wired.com. It's a daily chat conversation, mood tracking, video playing, word game playing therapist that you check in once a day with, and it kinda uses cognitive behavioral therapy principles to improve your mood $39 a month. So like, it's way more expensive than any other app you use probably, but way less expensive than a therapist, right? Yeah, I mean, it's less than one of the big things that kind of hit the scene recently were apps like Talkspace, for example, that were essentially apps that connected you to a real licensed therapist, and you could talk to them through a messaging platform, and it was HIPAA compliant, it was all private, and you only shared as much information as you wanted to, and it was supposed to help you open up to a therapist and feel comfortable chatting in that way, and you could do video calls and stuff as well, but this is really taking it to the next level. Though Wobot does not do anything, it will not diagnose you, it will not prescribe you medicine, it's not a psychiatrist, it's a robot therapist, but it's really more to kind of gather that information about your mood and give you an outlet, a non-judgmental outlet for sharing what's going on in your world. I think the thing that struck me about this so much is that it's also not using machine learning. It is apparently still effective. They've in fact done a paper comparing it to a control group that was using a self-help book, and they found that the people using Wobot did feel less or did report, anyway, I was self-reported. They reported less anxiety than the people using the e-book, so it has some kind of effect, but it's just a tree. It's just following a tree, not learning about you. It's completely, yeah, it's deterministic. It's just like, we'll spit back responses based on what you're feeding it, but like you said, it's not using any kind of artificial intelligence, so it's not learning your behavior and adjusting itself accordingly. So I think, I thought that was pretty interesting, but I also really agree with that because it's very easy to get that kind of thing very wrong. And this is not something that you wanna leave up to chance, because if you have someone who is very upset going through a hard time, not picking up on the right cues could be dangerous. So I think that this is taking the smarter step, which is to be more of an encouraging measure to get people to open up and talk, but not be giving you feedback really about what you're saying necessarily that could turn out to be the wrong kind of feedback. And in fact, if it detects a severe problem, it'll send someone resources where they can get real help. It won't try to go beyond its range. So you may be already dismissing this, going like, okay, well, what good is this? But talking to a bot does seem to help people open up. Now we mentioned the one story about Wobot, but there was also a 2014 DARPA study about a bot named Ellie that participants were told in one group it was a bot, which it was, and in another group they were told that it was a person. And the people who were told it was a bot opened up more than the people who thought the bot was in fact a person. So there is something to the fact that when there's not a human being on the other end, we don't feel as judged and we're willing to say more things. Yeah, I mean, I totally understand that. Like people talk to bots all the time. I have seen the chat logs for my own personal bot, for example, I know the kinds of things they open up about and it can be kind of intense. People don't necessarily always want to share their deepest darkest secrets with another human being because of that fear of being judged, but a robot doesn't care, it's not gonna judge you, it's not gonna feel any differently about you. It may send back different responses, the more intelligent it becomes, not that robot will, but in the future potentially. But yeah, it's a judgment-free zone. Yeah. Safe space. And even just texting therapists, they find people have less anxiety about talking to them. So I think this is an interesting thing. I'm not sure I would pay $39 a month for it yet. Maybe if you really need that, it's worth it. And you can't afford a professional therapist, which is much more expensive. I can get that, but I look forward to the day where there is a machine learning bot that can really adapt itself, not so much that I even wanted to diagnose, but just to be able to have that sense of caring about you. That's the one thing that a decision tree is never gonna say is like, you know, Tom, I know you've mentioned that you have a fear of heights before. Do you think that that played into this, right? Like you're not gonna get anything like that. Something that I think kind of covers like a middle ground between this and an actual human being is something like Coco, which is a chatbot that's available on kick, for example, and I think a few other platforms. And Coco does similar kinds of things where it allows you to recast your thoughts in a more positive light. So you say what kind of issue you're having and that completely anonymously sends out that message to other Coco users. And they then try to say, well, what have you thought about it this way? Oh, wow. So it's like crowd sharing anonymously your therapy session. That's pretty interesting. Oh, you know, I'm having some stress about this thing I'm doing at work and I don't know how my employee, you know, fellow employees are seeing what I'm doing. Like what do you guys think? And they can say like, well, maybe they're seeing it this way or maybe you should look at it this way. And to me, that was a really useful way of kind of like they said, recasting thoughts in a different way and kind of getting an outside perspective without that judgment of talking to people who know you. And it probably gives the other people in the network a little fulfillment that they're helping. Not just being helped. Totally, totally. That's a whole nother side of things for sure, that people get a lot of good vibes out of helping other folks. There's another one that was mentioned in this wired article called TheraChat, which I think is another interesting use of chatbots where therapists use it to keep patients engaged in between sessions. So, you know, you maybe only go to therapist once a month, but you can talk to TheraChat every day and then the records are viewable by your therapist. So that opening up you do or those chats that you have are actually helping with your diagnosis from a professional. Yeah, this sounds like smart journaling. So you can essentially write down what you're feeling at any given moment. And instead of having to just do it in a notebook or wherever, your therapist will get immediate access to that. Yeah, well, I have to say, well, but you'd be crazy not to read about it. Go check it out, wired.com. Cool stuff. Yeah. Now, this is really cool. And I think this is a case where there's some helpful things happening and very interesting thing is happening, but we're only seeing the beginning of what can be done here. Both on the clinical side, but just on the, you know, that I just wanna talk to somebody, but I don't wanna talk to somebody who's gonna judge me side, you know. And like you said, you kinda see that already. Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at DailyTechNewShow.Reddit.com. Time to check in with Chris Christensen for the Tech in Travel Minute. If you're headed to India, Chris has a tip. This is Chris Christensen from the amateur traveler with another Tech in Travel Minute. It's an interesting plan. If it works for India, we'll be giving all of their tourists who arrive with an eVisa, a free SIM card for their phone. The SIM card won't have a lot of data or voice time on it. It will have about 50 megabytes of data available on it and just a little bit of call time. But the idea is to give you enough so that you could call if you got any problems and they're also rolling out with that a number that you can call where you can have questions answered in 12 different languages. Now, not the only ones to have this idea, they got their idea from a similar program in Sri Lanka. They didn't get their idea from a program that's rolling out in Thailand, which will require tourists to use specific SIM cards so that they can be tracked. They say for the tourist safety, but how creepy is that? I'm Chris Christensen from Amateur Traveler. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, I didn't realize that you had to use a particular SIM card in Thailand. Send your pics to us, folks. Feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. You can find more pics at dailytechnewshow.com slash pics and you can find more travel tech at amateurtraveller.com. A couple of emails before we get out of here. One from Scott, your story Friday about new limits on Amazon cloud storage and the time it takes to reupload data to a new service reminded me of my use of cloud HQ. It's a service that allows you to synchronize data between cloud storage subscriptions. I use it to sync data between Google Drive, OneDrive, and Box. The user who complained about having to reupload everything if he switches from Amazon's cloud to something else may be able to synchronize his data to a new service without having to reupload everything. It just happens cloud to cloud in that case. Nice. Yeah. And then we got another one related to the same story. Andrew wrote in about Amazon Glacier. In fact, a few people have mentioned this in various emails and Slack discussions about it. Glacier lets you back up without needing to get them back right away. So once your document gets to the front of the queue, it's moved off to long-term cold storage. If you want to file back, you put a request in and you don't get it right away. It gets to the front of the queue maybe a couple of hours later and that's when your data comes out of long-term storage. So this is meant for somebody who just wants to keep their photos in a safe place but doesn't need to look at them all the time. My monthly bill, he says, is usually around 20 cents, although I only have 25 gigabytes in there and that doesn't change much. Looking at the calculator, Amazon provides holding two terabytes in there and adding an extra gig a month would give you a monthly bill of $8.20, which I think you'll agree is very reasonable. Even if you accessed a lot of the stored content, it's not too bad. Two terabytes stored with 100 gigabytes transferred out in a month would be $15.85. To get around the retrieval timings, I use Glacier as my third line of defense. All my data gets put on a Synology NAS, which I would go to if my laptop became unusable. However, should my house catch fire and I lose both the laptop and the network attached storage, I have Glacier to revert back to. And he's got a few more, a little bit more information here about scripts and Raspberry Pi. If you're interested, we'll have that in the show notes at dailytechnewshow.com. But I think, yeah, a lot of times people will sign up for backup or storage that is built to give you immediate access when maybe they don't need it and something like Glacier might be worthwhile to check into. Yeah, I think that's a really smart way of prioritizing data. Absolutely. Finally, this week's Your Private Driver, which is a regular column from Sakane Wright features some lessons from the game Cities Skyline for cities trying to deal with ride sharing traffic. You can find that column right now at dailytechnewshow.com. Big thanks to Sakane for making these columns happen. They're interesting perspectives from the driver's side of ride hailing and ride sharing, which I don't think we get often enough out there. Well, thank you, Veronica Belmont, for joining us as always. Anything to tell folks about before we get out of here? No, you can check out mybot at robot.io and listen for new episodes of Sword and Laser at swordandlaser.com. Yep, we've got an interview that we did at Bacon with James S.A. Corey, the two authors that combined to make James S.A. Corey who wrote the books that the TV show, The Expanse, is based on. That's right, that'll be coming up on Wednesday. Thanks to everybody who gives a little value back for the value they get from the show, including Andrew Dorado, Joe King, Adam Scaramella, and many, many, many more. We cannot do the show without your support and we seriously thank you. We're up one patron over last month. That's really all I ever want to see is that we raise at least one patron every month. 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Oops, sorry, I didn't. What was that? Internet. App Get. I'm voting for App Get. Got it. Me too. I'm going to vote for Max Head Shrink. Max Head Shrink. That's pretty good too. The Xbox marketing. Nightmare, disc. Oh, wait a minute. Mandy's had a freeze while reading. Xbox One, XS. Wait, I just freeze while weaning, whereas it's still scrolling. It doesn't do anything. This button doesn't do anything for me. Do you have a script turned off because it works for me? Maybe. Powerful. Oh, it stops titles from eroding while hovering over the list. Maybe we weren't hovering over the list. RTFM, Roger, come on. Should require an actual use. Buy and sell. That's pretty funny. I like that one. Buy and sell is pretty good. Buy and sell. Which is a crash override hacks the Gibson. We're kind of got acts like bot judges. Bot changes users. Dude, where's my bike? You know, I'm trying to remember the city. It's either Portland or Seattle. But they had a bike sharing program. And what they did was they took a bunch of old bikes, but not like, you know, not from the 50s, but like old 10-speed bikes. This is every city that's ever existed. Well, I don't know. This already sounds like an Austin story to me. Hold on. Let me continue. Geez, I haven't finished yet. All right. Pay them yellow. What they did was they pulled out the gears. So it was a single-gear bike, but the city was in the depression. So it would take a lot of work to pedal out of it. And so people would just leave them. Like once they got to the end of the city. Yeah, that's it. They're just like Austin. Yeah, no, there's a bunch of cities that did that. You're right that either Seattle or Portland was the first, though. But you just make the bikes physically unable to leave the area. But the yellow bikes in Austin all got stolen, anyway. What if you make them really ugly? They were pretty ugly. Yeah. Geez, it just goes to show people so. I don't know. I think they were selling them for scrap metal or something. Yeah, it seems to be happening around here, anyway. They shouldn't have made them out of copper wire. Well, there's your problem. Copper. Well, I remember when people were stealing catalytic converters for the plush. Yeah, those bikes that were made entirely of copper wire and catalytic converters were just asking to be stolen. Fine, I'll go back to the old Ben Franklin bike, the one made out of wood. I'm going to say apt-get install therapist, right? I still like Max Hedtrink. But that's fine. That's fine. I'm co-founded by Veronica. Max Hedtrink's pretty good. Runner up. We got a lot of responses to Friday's show. I think our Friday shows generally get more responses because it's Friday and we're feeling happy that we're headed to the weekend. Feeling goofy. Andrew Carr, Amazon Glacier, this is a little close. Password please. Summer of sharks. I mentioned that we had a leftover bottle of amaretto and Louis Lacompt posted several recipes for drinks that use amaretto. That's very helpful. Thank you for that. Roger is so funny. Keep feeding them pigs, bro. What? Were you feeding? What did we say about feeding pigs? No, I said like you were talking about foods like bacon. I'm trying to say something about being health conscious and vegetarian or something. I said, that's great. Just feed the salad bar to the pig and then eat the pig. My biggest laugh of the day came out of your conversation over a Vegemite with Roger. Oh, yeah. I don't like eating salt alone. But when I put salt in something in the right amount, it tastes great. I'm going to start selling human salt for people. OK, what do you mean by that? You're frightening me. No, no, not me, that of people. But you don't like salt licks. You put them out for cows and sheep or whatever. So you just make it for people. You put it a little like a popsicle stick. It's just a big cube of salt. So you just eat whatever and you just lick it. Coffee, lick it. You drink coffee, lick salt. Oh, I see. So there wouldn't always be salt. I don't think you want to communal lick anything, though. No, it's personal. You would each get an individual. So it's a popsicle. It's a salt-sicle. But it would always be salt? It's a salt lick, yes. Well, then where did the coffee? Oh, you're going to flavor the salt. No, no, what you do is anything you eat, you would just lick a little bit. Oh, I need some salt. You just lick the salt. OK, you guys are having fun. You seem to be handling this well. I'm going to leave now. All right, thanks. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I forgot. OK, bye. Bye. Mutation666 says, Authy would still be two factors because you have a username. That was the suggestion that you use Authy as the single factor to log in. So I guess you could consider the username something you know. That's not a protected something you should know is the thing. It's public something you should know. Not sure that works. All the people who have emailed about Squirrel, SQRL, which is Steve Gibson's excellent procedure for getting rid of passwords, I am aware of it. In fact, I hosted one of the security nows where he talked about it. And I did send off an email to Steve today to see if we could do an interview about Squirrel. The reason we didn't talk about it on the show about passwords is our discussion was not how do we get rid of passwords. It was why aren't these companies talking about it? So I mean, the question remains, why aren't they using SQRL? It's open source. Anybody can use it, right? But yeah, I'd love to talk to Steve more about where it's at. How many people have adopted it? Explain it a little for people. Yeah, I'd like to think a good overview of what it does and the issues. Because it's a pretty ingenious system, and nobody has to pay anything to adopt it. Maybe that's the problem. People don't trust it if they can't control it. So he's down for it. I'd love to spend. I mean, we can do this separately and roll it in, or? Yeah, I figured we'd just make it a standalone, like we did with Tom's hardware. Yeah. I don't mind doing that more. Nothing's ever done, really done, really. But OK, so it was a work in progress. That's true. It's not fully done yet. SQRL. Squirrel. Squirrel. The only thing I really know about squirrel is all the YouTube videos where native German speakers try to pronounce squirrel. I don't know why it's. I don't think that's the same thing. No, I know. But I just threw that in there as an aside. I guess it stems from the whole belief that Germans are unable to pronounce squirrel. It was used as a passphrase code in World War II. Ah, is that right? No, it's a fact. That's a, see, that is what it is. That is a myth. Yes, but that is an example of a factoid, something that sounds like a fact, but really isn't. You shouldn't be spreading those. Yeah, probably. Apocryphal information. So somebody just stopped listening right before you made it clear that that wasn't true. You mean how, like, I want a president to have to be responsible for taffy? He did like to eat. It's very, I think he went on the first. Udiest presidents. Not a deal-a-meal plan, but he had like a diet, like he had a nutritionist or doctor go through, like, what he was supposed to eat or limit himself to. Yeah, but back then they weren't really into weight loss. Having weight was a good thing. Okay, doge. I wonder if you could, I wonder if things like deal-a-meal would've sold in the, in the, actually, in all the 20s, depression, people were starving. I guess deal-a-meal really was just a product of its time. What was deal-a-meal? I don't remember. That was Richard Simmons, the exercise guy. Ah, yeah. And he had that plan where it was a way to kind of count your calorie intake. So like Weight Watchers. Yeah, except that he didn't try to sell you a line of frozen meals at the same time. That's the thing that really annoyed me about a lot of those weight loss things is that part of their thing was you need to try our shakes or... Oh, Steve wrote back saying yes, he would absolutely do it. So we just need to, we probably saw this already and I hadn't seen it. That's why you were saying it. Yeah, no, no, I mentioned you said, oh, Steve said yes, so do you want to do this? I probably... I didn't catch that. Yes, so we just need to set up a time to do it. All right, awesome. Awesome, awesome, awesome. Yes, indeed he do. All right, well, I got nothing else. We're published. I think we're good to go. Thank you all for hanging out with us today and we will be back tomorrow with E3 wrap up and Patrick Beja. E3.