 really good thanks mate 10,000 subscribers yes well 12,000 now and thank you thank you to all these subscribers or friends as I prefer I hate that commodity thing you look like you're in the library mate what's going on there well last time you joined me I was in the wardrobe and tonight it's much later in the evening in Los Angeles and I thought I'd go and get in a comfortable chair because last time I spoke to you the chair wasn't that comfortable and I thought if we're going to have a heart-to-heart and a tater tates then I need to be in in daddy's chair and I'm in daddy's chair right now so that's where I am have you got a big house over there mate how does that how does it work yeah it works like this so you go on tour you make some money you think about where you're gonna put that money and then you get scared of losing that money so you think what's the best thing to do with it and then you think well I'll put it into bricks and mortar because if everything crashes and everything goes away at least you'll be left with bricks and mortar and a viable actual thing you know so I put my money into a house then what happens is you put your money into a house and then the house itself needs paying for because you know it's it's a big size and what you don't know you know being allowed from stoke and coming from centuries of navies you you haven't got a clue what and how to do stuff with your finances and then you realize this is that then this is the the loophole that you get in you constantly chasing your tail it's like now that you've got that you have to pay for that every year and the upkeep of that it's not a complaint it's just an observation you know so it's an it's an it's an it's an observation so yeah I have this really great big house and then I worry about my finances and having to pay for it every year so I think that what people do in my situation I've noticed they sort of have that big splurge of fame where the financial tap gets turned on and then the the flow of that sort of decreases and I think people go on to simplify their lives and get rid of things and that's what I'm in the process of doing right now is going okay well I've experienced this this has been a lot of fun but for my age where I am what I've been through what's happened to me you know having financial insecurity perhaps shouldn't exist hmm can we just let's just jump in there Rob and say it seems to be this period where some as they've had the massive fame they've had the girls the cars the and let's remember that a lot of us myself included when I came into writing which was which was my art right I have one goal and it was I want I wanted my five minutes of fame right you know I'd always you know I had a dysfunctional childhoods as we've already discussed and I felt I felt kind of like overlooked you know I thought do you know what I'm gonna start writing this book eating smoke so I started writing that off my fucking head right I thought I'm gonna write the best selling book people gonna you know enjoy it that'll be my thing right but here's the thing overwhelmingly it seems that celebrities have this desperate yearning maybe desperate's the wrong word but a yearning to to be acknowledged and recognized and when they have this initial success and it's everything's gravy and then it goes away then it seems that that these Satanist if we want to call them that and and my jewellery's out Rob always right I can't I can't go on here say I can only go on what what I see but it seems that they come in there they get the they offer the celebrity the deal you know you're gonna be rich again you're gonna be famous again here's the million dollar contract but it it comes with clauses they call it a Faustian packed and I won't even pretend I know who Faust was I don't know if he was the right or the character I think it was the character in a play I like knowing that it's called a Faustian packs because as somebody pointed out it adds to the pseudo-intellectualism that we have but it's I think that's where the intellectualism stops is that we know it's called something we just don't know why it's called that I don't ever want to pretend I'm anything I'm not Rob you know I'm I'm I don't I don't want to deal derail your train of thoughts so go on so yeah and let I don't know if I should name names because I I don't believe in bringing shit down on someone else's life if if if it's just like hearsay but but this is our children's future we're talking about and we've got to start having some dialogue right so let me just give an example Liam Gallagher what the fuck is going on there well in what way well in as far as his brother got massively successful in on the America on the Atlantic side right which is kind of from what I understand is every British pop star's dream is to make it in America right and I know that's been a part of your career or an element of your career so his brothers over there smashing it he's got all ours popping up in his videos this side of the Atlantic you've got Liam there going oh my band's called BDI right you know it's no coincidence his band is called BD frickin I then he's in an interview and they're talking about a song it's something magnolia I think it was something that Paul Weller wrote okay and there's some kind of underlying sentiment in this song can we say in it and it's a bit like satanic so you've got Liam in this interview and he's talking about this song and he goes yeah yeah it's proper Lucifer man that's what we're at he turns to his music buddy and goes yeah that's what we're into right and okay that BDI let's just say it failed or it peated into insignificance I don't know the statistics but next thing you know or Liam is like back again as one of the biggest celebrities in the world and don't get me wrong I've always really likes I like you Rob I like Tim I like that fuck it kind of attitude you know I like that I like the fact that Liam just tells people to fuck off because that's kind of part of us and it you know we've got that you know up against the British establishment fuck you you've you've had it too good too long we're gonna swear we're gonna drink we're gonna fucking snort coke fuck it it's it's it's it's it's helped us find who we are kind of thing but the fact of the matter is is Liam and if you're watching mate I mean there's no disrespect and come come and talk to me but like suddenly back up there again international stardom having just been talking about all this shit and you're thinking what is going on okay can I jump in okay so first of all Oasis had a decent career in America not a massive career noles not he was he was he supporting he was supporting he was supporting so oh no he was doing a double thing with snow patrol in America playing reasonable sized venues nothing gigantic nothing to be ashamed about either but you know not on a level that makes any impact other than you know some 40-something's very happy which his music does so on account of him being massive in America it's not true you know we he's done well over to Liam Liam did BDI and I'll be honest with you the songs weren't very good it's as simple as that the idea and the concept of that whole thing wasn't very good and you know they're and I know that we have beef in all that business but impartially you know because I'm gonna big them up in a minute you know then Liam did a solo is solo career people I think people wanted him to have that solo career the record was better he went and worked with proper songwriters you know that do songwriting for a living that craft verses choruses middle-eights really really well he writes a great lyric he does great melodies and he is the voice of a generation think it's about Liam is whatever he did if he got every aspect of it right people want more of him and that's the truth you know because he's an incredible personality he's got loads of charisma he behaves in a way that you would like to behave given the chance of being a rock star he is fulfilling your dream and he's doing it excellently and always has so if all elements of the project come together incredibly well which they did you know he's got he's got he's now got handfuls of great songs in his solo career you know for what it's worth is a song that he wrote of the last album I think it's the best song of that year if you ever listen to it it's just authentic incredible hit you in all the right places you know so his and I will now leap into something else you know it's sort of you know where it's the accusations become abusive and beyond belief to the infinite degree that and I think it's part of people's makeup when people gets incredible success it reflects on them in a way where they represent abundance and if they're looking at somebody and they see abundance magnified in their hearts it makes them feel small so they want to have you be secretly gay secretly smack head secretly a Satan is now that's the new creative version of belittling somebody's talent and hard work you know and sacrifices not literal sacrifices I just mean I mean you know in life so you know the thing is about Oasis is they had those two hugely charged of the moment incredible albums that spoke to the world on a level that's not point not point not point nor percent of musicians and singer songwriters get to experience that was the class of those songs now with those songs literally their career can live forever to quote one of their songs with Noel he isn't big in America you know and Liam isn't one of the biggest stars worldwide this is what we have with with the UK which we accuse Americans of being we see our UK prism with our celebrities as well this must be happening worldwide because it's happening here you know it's it's not happening outside the UK you know it's not if if he if there is a secret meeting where you go and shake hands and you do a faisty impact I'd want more than burnage so let's just jump let's get step back a bit Rob because first of all even like they're talking about this shit what the fuck is that I don't go about my day and go do you know what I'm thinking about Satanism today or well actually maybe I do because it is a factor in it seems to be a factor in life right maybe it I mean I'm trying to be careful of not not getting lost down an alleyway but Stephen King you know worked his ass off to become an author wrote a book called Carrie you know worked his ass off and struggled he was writing in his washing room had three kids to support or whatever he was a teacher da da da da da wrote a book called Carrie clearly a satanic text or about someone who's possessed bang gets three hundred thousand dollar advance right JK rolling and again I'm not casting aspersions here I'm asking questions because like I'm a father and I I've got a set an example from my son you know so JK rolling wrote some writes a book which is okay it's it's a children's book we get that but essentially it's about the occult and bang she's just literally the biggest writer in the world you got Liam there in his interviews doing this right that's just fucking weird why would you even say that in an interview if that was even your your thing okay we could maybe argue sometimes we haven't always been the smartest cookie in in the book then you got Noel there with the owls so that's mo-lock in satanic terms in it in his videos and I'd love them to be all part of the agenda that would suit my narrative perfectly you know that I don't you know where they are concerned I think people become poster boys for a certain group of people that have shaped your life and whereas Liam in particular is concerned anybody that's ever bullied me at all all the way through my life a multitude of them I forget about them and put it on to one person and that's him and that's why I want to fight him that's why I want to fight him in the ring you know he's your archetypal schoolboy bully that tries to intimidate because of some perpetual lack of self-worth basically and look he may have changed now I don't know who he is now but I still want to fight the 24 year old version of him you know so that's that's where I'm coming from with that I tell you what can I just say it's fucking brilliant when you when you offered him out well yeah I you know I yeah I genuinely want to there's a lot of things that I want to experience and I saw KSI and Logan fight and just thought that looks amazing and I don't dislike anybody enough to actually want to train for those 10 weeks and give it my all apart from him so you know the office still stands I'm still available let's do it for the NHS well yeah I think so going back to what you were saying I don't know the interview that you're referencing I don't know why he would say that I don't know why there are owls in Noel's video what I would say speaking from a place of love for a fellow human if I can overlook the aspect of you know feeling bullied by somebody I would say this about Liam I would say he is well aware of the things that we are well aware of not the people that do it and who they actually are or been invited into any meetings but I would say he's I would say he's a white hat and not a black hat I might be wrong but you know my intuition says that man wants good things to happen for the planet to you know it might not express it well but from from it only going on intuition I would say you know he's I would say he's a good guy I have no doubt he's a lovely man I'd you know I'd go for a beer with him tomorrow that I don't think that's the issue yeah it's the same though with this you know Lady Gaga and and people that are film shoving pizza in their face at a time where you shouldn't really be fucking film shoving pizza in your you know it it's not that is not a good message right and so and I'm willing to accept that yes this might be all puppetry these people are being used you know I don't think that particular separate celebrity could because they've been sharing pizza with a I think it was a 13 year old I've seen last year there was some I don't want to say the name of celebrity because I might get it wrong and I don't want to accuse anyone of anything but it was a very famous top Hollywood celeb with some up-and-coming girl who was a let's just let's just say 13 or a 15 year old talent and that they're fucking eating a bit of pizza together this is what people want to know Rob you know they want to know what you know is this is this the I think that I think that if I am being used then I don't know about it you know it's like I can you know let's let's talk about the comments about which which sort of make me laugh and at the same time scare me and at the same time find them infuriating all of those different things infuriating scary and make me laugh you know that sort of let's say that these very powerful clever forces have run this world for centuries which is kind of what we believe right we don't know but it's kind of what we believe so three weeks ago those forces had a meeting and decided to send Robbie Williams you know I did that meeting go so in that meeting when they're all chatting decided to send Robbie Williams to talk to Chris Thrall so I did that meeting go should we send Beyonce which she's not answering should we send Rihanna to unpredictable what about Gaga well no one's gonna believe her at the minute you know Williams well Robin Williams is dead no no Robbie Williams Robbie William is that is that is that genuinely the level that people actually think things happen because this is the scary thing about all of this it's becoming a religion a religion where where people would rather believe than know make that why didn't they send me Kim Wilde come on listen she's not gonna make it into the Illuminati is she Kim I love it I might get a snog out of it you know who do you want us to send over next so yeah that's that's that's the thing you know is and like what I was saying before that sort of negates everything that I've done and achieved off my own back and with my own hands me personally it went like this I auditioned to be and take that we worked our bollocks off like you would not believe it like you would not believe what we when we add the energy and the ability to do it because we were really young we started with a school in the morning school in the afternoon performing youth club under 18s club over 18s club two gay clubs in a straight club day after day after day after day after day building up this reputation we had these cards that we used to throw into the audience with the P.O. box on the back where they could get information about us but basically what those cards were were information data because once we had your information this was then worth something this is basically what happened no record company wanted to sign us at all boy bands were dead but we amassed 70,000 of these cards with people's information on it the record company that signed us BMG bought the cards bought the information bought the data that we came with that was what was worth money to them not us our image or our songs and then we and them exploited that and we got lucky I'd hit with only takes a minute girl and a phenomena grew you know I left I wrote and recorded a bunch of songs I released four of them and with lesser degrees of success and a note went around the record company we're about to drop Robbie Williams that week angels came out and angels changed absolutely everything for me now when I went on stage and performed these songs people like what I did not everybody lots of people fucking hate what I do I totally get it I'm just saying the people that came to those shows liked what they experienced told people about it bought somebody with them and that audience grew and grew and grew off my sweat off my back with this throat with this mind with these jazz hands I fucking did that you know now if you think in 1996 that I went and had a clandestine meeting with somebody and and they they made it possible for me to become an international pop star your intuition and the way the prison that you view the world is off now I can only give you that information you can lead a horse to you can lead a whore to culture but you can't make them think you know you can lead a horse to water etc now also if you can't ascertain real soul and real authenticity and real truth when you're being presented with it then you're fucked you know I don't know where that came from that's it's just something that because I've been reading the comment section last last few days is just like also you can't see these people you can't see their lives you can't see who they are so the flatness of text you can't get much of a read on these people might be dreadfully unhappy these people might be suffering with some sort of mental illness these people might be all of those things combined but when it goes into my computer as a human it has very detrimental effects very detrimental effects and I need this is something that I've come up with myself I need to sort this out because there's undue pain happening caused by the words of strangers it has a very powerful effect and hold on my life and I don't know why but I know that I need to release that to live a happier life I seem to be addicted to finding people that will tell me what I can't yeah that all comes back to the paradise in your head thing that we talked about last time what I want to get at Rob is I don't doubt you you're my friend you know thank you yeah we actually took cocaine together you you don't know about this really yeah we're at a party like a house party and we went upstairs to the master bedroom and you pulled open the third drawer down on this chest of drawers and it was fucking loaded with coke we're talking like what say hello to my little friends yes exactly you you said it right and then I woke up and it was a dream oh oh I got excited then I wanted to I wanted some euphoric recall I was like where were we mate I'll add the euphoric recall in that just having that dream it was you know if me and Robby we're gonna get it together we're gonna pull open that drawer Wow but um what I'm trying to say is Rob I don't doubt you in in in any way I think the issue is is that people have so many questions and how do we you know bridge that gap even even if we have to the music industry is clearly satanic it just is you know you've got people like Madonna so who the fuck are you putting that shit in front of my children that's that's the way we need to start thinking not just the music industry but Hollywood we don't need this this hideousness in front of our children all the time whether it's through the Disney whether it's you know through the movies whether it's through the Super Bowl halftime show it's all clearly satanic now here's the thing right I don't know if that's part the agenda if these clever fuckers that that clearly run the planet or control the wealth just think let's chuck them a bit Satanism and and you know we'll keep their minds occupied for another 40 years trying to work this fucker out right I don't know that right I do know that that evil in in the literary sense exists you know we've both been there when you when you when you're chronically addicted to drugs it's that fucking devil has got you is it really is just that clear let me ask a question right I say I share this I share the same beliefs name me something on this planet other than us I don't mean me and you I just mean other species most of us and nature that isn't demonic name you something that isn't not just the music industry or the film industry about pharmaceuticals what about the food that we eat what about the news that we ingest what about nearly everything when money transacts name name me something that doesn't have a demonic aspect attached to it okay I mean that's just a thought off the top of my head I'm sure that you know we could name a billion things but can I just name can I just name something yes when I went to the court yesterday I hardly go out these days is great I went to the court and as I came out the co-op the guy coming the other way went you're right mate for no reason whatsoever right I do that anyway I'm that kind of person I say hello to my neighbors I go running and I say hi to the people running the other way it to me that is community that is life it's how it should be right it's called being northern yes when I go up northern you know up northern when you walk north and you sat in a bus stop it's freaking great to just turn to the person or they turn to you and go so how's your day but yeah that is it's a wonderful part of humanity that again I'm pointing up there they are trying to destroy right and so that is beautiful coming out of my co-op and having a complete strange to say you're right and this is part of what's going on at the minute with this you know this I don't know if I can say the word I think it's fine this far into the video but COVID-19 you know it's a beautiful thing that's come off the back of it that reconnecting with a human spirit right so that's not satanic that's what I'm saying us us as a species we're not no that's what I'm saying you know anything when money transacts or change hands I think has a demonic element to it and I think the further that you go up the scale where the most money is being made is the most demonic I would I would say that that is probably true once again I believe that I don't know that I believe yeah when I'm people approach me for life advice or life coaching or whatever I say to them you know until you realize everything in your life is a lie you're never gonna be free and like you said Rob our education is a fucking lie our media is a lie our diet the meat industry the dairy is a fucking lie you know vegetables too vegetables now yeah spraying the crops with chemicals you know is if I won't mention the firm that owns shitload of our food that we ingest but it's a pharmaceutical company yeah don't mention Monsanto mate bastards yeah it's not just them you know I don't own listen this company that I'm speaking about but you know that's that's why we're ill that's why we are ill because of what we're eating that's why I'm ill because of what I'm eating or what I've eaten yes once you realize everything is a lie life just becomes so fucking brilliant you can just free yourself up to go and live the truth stop believing what you see in the media it's not true it never has been the people that own the media they don't work for you they don't love you they probably actually despise you and they despise your children and they couldn't the enemy of the people and the enemy of themselves let's get back back then Rob because I know we will be taken to task on this if we don't get some not clarity because we're never going to have that it's always going to be subjective right I saw rodera roger Federer rodera that sounds rude doesn't it whether it's both it's both the euphemism yes you can't win with with these tennis players mm-hmm but I saw roger turn up for this garlable this met garlable or whatever it is and he's your archetypal macho heroic athlete nice guy humble man in who doesn't like humble right he turns around at this met garlable and he's got a snake on his back a satanic symbol in if if you want to interpret that way it could be a lot of things but then you've got these other sort of celebrities turning up and there's people wearing pizza dresses if I'm if I'm not like correct I think that was was that a Kardashian or Rihanna apologies if I've got the name wrong but you know you can't blame people for asking questions what I can't blame people for asking questions and I can't blame people from being highly charged and super incensed about the subject matter I totally fucking get it you know if this is true there will be lynch ins if this is true and it comes to light there should be you know what we are talking about the very nature of this subject that if it exists people need to die and I understand how incensed people are because of the subject matter I'm a dad of four I'm incensed to you know it's and I you know I was like I I can't speak on behalf of all celebrities you know this is also even though this subject matter has become part of pop culture and is kicking down the glass ceiling as we speak it's not pervasive for the whole world you know I've got my wife here she doesn't she said what's going on in conspiracy land and I I don't want to tell her because it's dark you know she doesn't know I've got my security guy here you know is interested in UFOs thinks he's seen something he doesn't know anything outside of that you know I think that I don't mention you know it's amazing that I'm actually saying this on a public forum because I don't even talk to my mates about it for fear of sounding like one of them you know so as much as we are engulfed in all of this trying to connect dots and trying to figure it out it's not as pervasive as you think it might become pervasive and omnipresent but it's not you talk about Roger Faraday right incredible athletes absolute legend machine inspirational pH 7 incredibly normal just normal just you know when people say you're not being normal if there was a picture of somebody normal in the dictionary next to the word normal it'd be Roger Federer do you think Roger Federer is on the same forums that we are do you know what I'm saying yeah but Mike it still poses this question why does Noel have fucking owls in his video clearly symbolic of mo-lock that you know that the people that the Satan is the owl that the Satan is worship and it's on the dollar bill and why why do you turn up with all things that you could have on the back of your your tuxedo a snake it's what where's our answers Rob you know what I mean where's our answers what why do we have all this Masonic symbolism everywhere is it all a lost leader because seriously if there's five guys in an office and they control the Build-A-Bird group and they control finance and da da da da what a great way to just throw people off the scent foot for the next 50 years than to put this shit out there put a bit of this a bit of that and this is what you know I think we need we need to consider because they're not stupid they seem to control the whole the whole shebang and and maybe these celebrities doing you know the bloody hand signs in music videos which is so blatantly obvious now it's almost you know you know you got main stage at Glastonbury now it's gonna be some it's it's what I think when I see that I think oh that's interesting yeah and then I go maybe and that's as far as it goes that's as far as it goes for me as a person you know it's going oh you see that that's that thing that everybody's talking about and then you go nah nah and then you go well maybe I think it's incredibly important to keep your mind open not so much that it falls out you know I don't know perhaps Roger Federer just liked that jacket and have you have it is a question to you have you ever worn anything with a snake on it in your whole life I've got a stick no I thought I had a stick with a snake on it that they gave me when I worked in Africa when I talked to the street kids I think my mate got the one with this it was a really cool ebony stick right ebony wood is wood carving is really big in sub-Saharan Africa right when when we left they gave us that the school gave us these sticks I don't even know what they are I don't know why anyone needs to stick unless you're in the army or something but my mate had one and it had a cool snake wrapped around it and I remember thinking my dad's got a real phobia against snakes so maybe my Hungarian mate had that stick and let me ask you like there was a big sort of fashion thing that was going on that still goes on really but it's been done to death the image of the skull right the image of the skull turns up on I think it was Alexandra McQueen and then the image of the school was everywhere did you see that yes I mean the skull image is it's pervasive in our culture now which while that was happening did you think yourself I like that bit of clothing or not as I am now I just think oh my god it's more of this satanic agenda that's just been forced on us in every media outlet that you know this is my children I'm talking about Rob you know it's yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't wear that or that now knowing knowing what I know but I'm not stupid skulls are cool it's you know you go to school wherever it's I'm not saying it's not cool I'm just saying it's the fact it's also pervasive is it pervasive or are people just seeing things through a prism of suspicion that's a possibility I mean of course you know it's like you know it's like I was told there's two ways of seeing life one is everything's beautiful or everything shit and if you choose to like for example in 2006 when I was having not literal downloads I'm talking about YouTube downloads feeding me all of this information you know while all of that is happening and you're being red pilled as we like to call it you see everything and everyone and every instant as being maybe this is attached to something and that becomes part of your psychosis you know it becomes part of your reality and how you see the world which is why I say you know it's becoming like a religion that people would rather believe than know and I I'm too like that I'd rather believe I'd rather believe than know I don't like it when people present facts it doesn't gel well with my view of the world you know it's it doesn't fit with my perception of how I would like things to be and how I think things are which was a great lesson learned during 2006 7 8 and 9 that hey there needs to be some discernment because you know at one point I was convinced there was a nuclear bomb about to be dropped on fucking Los Angeles and we were allowed to move to Montana you know and that was a real thing that was happening in my head you know and I'm sort of like talking to myself about how am I going to relay this information to people without them thinking I'm crazy you know at some point this is Rob this is all part of the deception isn't it it's this mass bombardment of all these theories and this information that that irregardless of what you actually believe it's taking our eye off the ball and our eye off the ball is the fact that life ain't right it's too much shit put on our children there's a minority elite that control the whole goddamn show obviously they have their meetings you know they build a bug you got the evils in this world like the Clintons and the Bush family that are just basically crime families that have got into these positions of power to run the the USA and it's yeah I get it I completely get a lot of like we call it conspiracy theory is subjective it's completely subjective probably a load of it's a fucking load of bullshit you know I get that but we need to remember what happened in New York and I don't want to say the numbers because you got to be so careful what you say on this platform but without any question of doubt somebody put that plan into action the information is all out there on the internet if you want to know what was behind that event it's it's all there now there isn't there isn't even like any sort of un uncovered corners off the back of that the whole world took a massive new turn in terms of not just America's global dominance in the world or military dominance and I'm not blaming American people we're not at all to me right Americans are just the loveliest people in the whole world I met many in my life now we just like immediately you become like brothers and sisters is this is not about American people it's about am I allowed to say dual passport holders with a certain other other country that are playing the whole goddamn show and hiding behind expressions like anti-semitic you know somatic right it's once you see it it's I just think it's really clear to see and is this about Jews no absolutely not and I tell you that one my brother Anton I love you mate is Jewish and he's the kindest man you are ever gonna meet so this is not this is not always is about the no my wife's Jewish my kids are Jewish that's how it works there you go there you go this is not about that but until we get over that argument or pitfall or barrier that we're not allowed to talk about anything in the world because we might offend somebody we're never gonna get to the truth and they've cleverly sculpted that one you know they've cleverly sculpted it I genuinely believe that Jewish people and I'm not the only one saying this that you've got Jewish clerics so rabbis saying the same thing that these the whole story is being the people are being used you know as this kind of buffer that you can't criticize what what really might be going on I'm really trying to pick my words carefully a role because it's you didn't wow I mean listen your picture words beautifully I understand what you're saying that is such a controversial topic and a landmine for somebody like me you know it's like I'm I'm gonna go off and promote a daft album soon and I'm gonna do 150 interviews and out of those 150 interviews and guarantee you whatever I'm saying here right now I'll be answering to hmm yeah I will you know but also Rob can I just remind you it that goes two ways I'm the same I have to wake up every morning this is me you know but it's like I said last time it's fucking easier to live as a lion than it is as a coward and I won't be that I've got a boy even if we both get executed tomorrow he needs to know his dad was a fucking hero you know that his dad looked him in the eye went son I'm I'm not gonna bullshit you know you know your dad is not a coward and that's important to me because that's powerful yeah that's that's incredibly powerful and inspirational I think Rob do you think you're caught because you're you know do we get caught it's like this right just having this conversation I can lose my whole YouTube channel right I've worked my ass off eight months nine months now just telling the truth up every morning five sometimes four o'clock usually five o'clock if I've if I ever lay in it's six o'clock right I'm still on his computer at nine o'clock at night I take my my time off in the day to play with my son because I couldn't forgive myself if I if I didn't right really work my ass off but if I lose it all tomorrow by telling the truth I can live with that I absolutely I've been through much worse things in my life you know I've been through much worse things and let me say this you know as an interested bystander to all of this if I can lay my hat on something and go there that's it I'm fucking I'm in I'm in I'm fucking I'm that lion you know I just need that trigger you know I'm I can see that this could become what my life could be about but I don't have the all the stuff you were talking about before yes that those bits yes you know I don't have the assurancy of that not not I'm not talking about you I'm just talking in general that blind faith that a equals b equals c therefore this is what's happening with the world I don't I don't have the it didn't happen in front of my eyes you know I didn't feel it I didn't touch it I didn't sense it I have a I can't go to bat and lose everything because I've got a feeling to personally for me because when you say when you say your dad was a lion I'm like fuck that's powerful I feel a bit shamed and that's when I go oh yeah but if I did know and had had assurance in my own faith and in my own knowledge I'd be shouting from the rooftops but I don't I'm just mate we do we do from the simple fact Robin sorry I'm not I'm not trying to talk fucking down to you obviously but we know the BBC reported building 7 falling from the sky 40 fucking minutes before it did they predict in an event that had never ever happened in human history I I is still reinforced building collapsing it's just never how it wasn't as though it might happen it's just like never happened amen brother I'm with you you know as that reporter is talking live on a satellite feed to London I saw it I've seen it the building is behind them right and then they tried to claim they didn't know that that was a script and that was an agenda so I believe me I know you know I'm just trying to get some clarity here because it's so pit so though the conjecture of who we think is responsible is guesswork and assumptions we pretty much know right we pretty much know but it is still guesswork and it still is an assumption I'm totally down for everything that you're saying but for me to die on that hill I need those files in front of me I need that person sitting in front of me going hey and even then I'll be like welcome now babe Jesus Christ well I'm maybe a bit braver I you just look at who had infiltrated the bush cabinet look at who infiltrated it those fuckers were responsible you know Larry Silverstein you lying fucking cunt I what are the only day of the year he wasn't in the Twin Towers it's because he had a dentist appointment all right yeah some people will believe that you know and I call him a liar because he won't answer questions on it Rob he's had people who've lost family in that building come up to him and go and what does he do his mind is in his bounces just get them escorted out the room it's not on you know it's not on you got nothing to hide you come out and tell your truth it's that it's that simple you know we the truth is coming to light and we're in this massive momentum now and I'm not I don't want to be a champion it's I don't even know if I don't even know how I as as an individual who's trying to be spiritually enlightened is positioned in it all I don't know if you're supposed to like not focus on anything this shit and you then create your own reality of of of paradise right but the fact is there's a big movement now when David Eich said something 10 years ago you'd have 99 comments shouting that guy down right telling him he's a fucking idiot he's a mad he's insane and coming up all the brainwash cliches right when David Eich says something now you got 99 people supporting him and one person going yeah well you know and then everyone tells that person to like you know well just from experience alone I wouldn't you cannot and should not read or trust the narrative that's being foisted on you this is a given I'm I'm I'm I'm preaching to the converted we already know that I've met David quite a few times I really like him I like his message I like what he's got to say if I have to choose between one or the other I know where I'm at because I know whose soul and whose spirits I identify with more does that mean that he's right I don't know but if you're gonna put a gun to my head and go pick one I'm not choosing them cons I know too much about them cons you know excuse my language but there you know that the demonic energy once again is pervasive all the way through the media system you're telling me that there's an air of God that flows through those corridors you telling me that there's an air of spirit and kindness and love that is pervasive through this whole system doesn't fucking exist doesn't it does not exist it's not there you know once again it's so pipso that doesn't mean that one equals 56 see one and one equals 56 either something's up yes something's something's up yeah what is something what is the something well the something is let me just address people if you've read books and fucking seen youtube videos you know as much as me you know and I have a feeling I don't know how you can people out there in listening land some of them can base your forthright righteousness about exactly what is going on who is in charge and what it means because you believe something it's fucking disappointing to say the least discernment you know is I suppose is what I'm trying to preach discernment you know but yes I totally get it you know I know which eggs my basket are in but then there's like conspiracies on top of conspiracies on top of conspiracies you know the legions of people now that claim that David Ike works for the dark forces you know this is what happens this is why it's actually stupid of me I mean I love your compassion and your empathy and you as a person which is why I'm here and you know how ridiculous this is for me it's not wise for me to talk like this and I don't mean wise because the controllers will have me away I mean it's not wise because you become part of the conspiracy you know you become another conspiracy of another clog and before you know it it's already fucked the sea of mirth that we are swimming in because we want all the information we are so foggy and so bogged down and so full of shit we don't we don't we can't tell our hand in front of our faces that's the truth if you have invested and believe wholly in all of this stuff on every channel that you are watching you've got a problem you've got a fucking problem or you haven't or you just sit there and you type anonymously and that's as much as you do maybe you haven't got a problem maybe you got something off your chest that day and you went off with your business but if you see the world through a prism of everything that we're supposed to believe on the other side not the mainstream media this other stuff that we're ingesting we're a bit fucked you know which is why I choose to be a conscientious observer all the stuff that you were talking about before i'm totally on board totally on board everything that's coming to lights just recently i got so excited with lots of news that was happening at the start of this yay the indictments 150 000 of them have all been sent out everybody's being arrested children are being released blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and i was like fucking hell this is fucking magic oh oh i'm not saying that it won't happen but where is it where where i was at where all where is the manifestation of all of those things that it's that our online gurus have promised us for years now moving into decades you know future proves past general flin gets exonerated that's what i'm putting my coat on is going oh fucking hell that was said and now it's true that's the bit i can see that's the bit i believe in where i go fucking hell that was mentioned and now it's happening okay show me something else well i'll say again once again people would rather believe than know it's um not easy i know i i know i got on my pulpit there but no it's not easy but we need to remember that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and this is going on rob you know it is going on this whole pizza gate thing is clearly you know unless i'm some fucking mentally deranged person which i i have been in the past i promise you i'm not i promise you i'm not now i tell you what is clear sorry christ that i keep jumping in i tell you i tell you what is clear the terminology in those emails is highly fucking suspect yes highly fucking suspect what pit what perks my interest is that that what seems to be coded message because it's not just that mate is it it's quite clear that other some of the higher and echelons of the british government are all into this fucking shit as well you know it would appear to be that way you know it would appear to be that way and as far as i'm concerned it's the fucking children or everything rob you know would die tomorrow if i could fix it all for them i don't really give a shit about life anyway it's i love life but we're all just carbon molecules it doesn't really matter but which is why i return to the fact of why people are incensed because it's such an emotive subject you know that's exactly why we should and are bothered about this it's for them and um you know this thing that we believe is happening is incredibly it's the worst thing that you could possibly imagine ever on the planet earth why wouldn't that be a motive it just is yes so where do we where do we take this what is it i'm our state my case is love we got to love things get a lot nicer when you just love i don't mean like ignoring all these satanic fucking abusers what i mean is is from a personal point of view when you just adopt that that position of love it it something changes in you in your world um yeah it's it's something that needs more progress in our own beings and when i talk about our own beings i mean mine where we put where i put my energy where where i concentrate my compulsive nature on why can't i train my compulsive nature to feed into love and acquire more love by giving more love you know and with my partner my wife my dearly beloved she is the embodiment of love to me an eye to her and she teaches me every day uh well well in up um i have it i have it in my life which is why i think i'm way more content than i've ever been put it this way you know we can vibrate on such a level because of what the world is throwing at us that we can become sick just by the frequencies of tuning into other people's shit and sick by the frequencies of just existing i know this to be true when my wife loves me she gets rid of all of that for me i've i've seen it in action there's something i'll die on the hill for i've seen it in action i've felt it i know it to be true i know that love heals me yes and uh yeah i'm very very grateful rub let's not forget let's not forget it regardless of anything we've spoken about all you have put out from when you were bloody 16 years old is love isn't it anyone anyone can see that it might have been a calling for love it might have been it you know you you you've touched the heart of literally millions and you don't have to fucking apologize for that mate you know you you you don't don't we're we're British aren't we you know we we don't take compliments um at all it's it's it's it's kind of impossible for us to receive that and we should i just say i thank you very much that means a lot to me i you know i've i've i've i've tried to make my life better i've tried to make people happy and i've tried to make me happy in the process that's basically what i've done uh thank you very much for saying niceness you know it's it's a mate i don't try and be nice i'm just trying to tell the truth rub you know well that's somebody was saying about a comment about you and i talking together about um you know basically tossing each other off you know but here's the thing as humans as you as me we are well aware and we have been told a billion times how little we deserve how shit we are about our character the way we look our fucking ear lobes our eyes our shoulders our speech the way we laugh everything has been belittled and shamed and ridiculed and reduced i think if you see like-minded people and you see the aspects about them that you respond to that you think are beautiful you fucking tell those people you've seen it you know it's deadly important to tell people hey that thing you did i really like it i really admire it uh you know i admire your courage and i admire your strength there you go brother you know i think especially if these things only if these things come from the heart but um it's important to reach out to people and say i've noticed you being amazing who doesn't want to hear that who doesn't want to hear somebody say a nice thing to them meant from the heart you know uh anyway i've got to go play golf online it's a fucking hard life mate it's a hard life from the sublime to the ridiculous um i just want to clarify something i said on the um the last thing i was actually clarifying my my opinion from where i come from and i said at one point i was the biggest pop star on the planet and um arguably let's just say arguably and there has been comments you know there's been comments going you know well you weren't we is where i come from i said that to clarify the next thing that i meant to be honest with you when i say that it doesn't come from an egoic place because i actually am more bewildered than any of you fuckers out there but the prospect that that actually happened to me it's bewilders me the reason i said that was because you know they just paid me the biggest contract in the history of music i just i own a Guinness book of records for selling the most tickets you know people are pointing out about america and me not being famous they're granted guys i bet you the biggest pop star on this planet is in china and we don't know the fuck he is over there they have tv shows that have ratings of two billion two fucking billion and we've never heard of him the reason i did say that was that i went on to qualify if that was the case where was my meeting where was the shadowy figures coming up to me and going oh we want you in the club it didn't happen that's why i'm that's why i was saying that as uh is to qualify and i will say that once again it bewilders the fuck out of me that that happened to me but can i can i just ask you one question and i it what's the nk ultra thing right i've always loved you i i know you're the biggest fucking pop star on the planet i didn't i didn't really give a fuck what anyone else says right you just are you you're fucking well for a bit well you know it doesn't matter go on the eye of the beholder and so who gives a fuck right but what when you you went on stage and you had the modern butterfly on your shirt and yeah i get it that we draw false conclusions through what we see in the media but it's like rob what are you doing is okay you know should we just explain for people listening the monarch butterfly is the symbol of the monarch project which was in the uh the the cia and mi5 deny that it goes on but of course it goes on that they know how to mind control people you see it i think you see it massively in these superstar celebrities and i think you you start to see the breakdown in in in maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm wrong but rob you had a bloody monarch butterfly shirt on and when you did the interview with true geordie you got butterflies all over your table right now mate i'm not doubting you and this isn't me going oh cruise flight as it is afraid to know i'm fucking not i'm not afraid of anything no go on mate go on you know it's like it's like the roger better thing again but here's the thing the butterflies on a table i think you've got four kids who you love why would you not have butterflies on your table but it's the monarch thing that that make people go uh i see i see where you're coming from you know um i've got my oldest daughter's called theodora rose williams my eldest son's called charlton valentine williams my um then my daughter is collette josephine williams and then bow benedict williams i swear on my four children's soul i just like the outfit chris i liked the fucking outfit ockham's razor razor states mate i you know when i saw that it was at the roundhouse when i saw that outfit i just thought that fucking outfit tastes i didn't see it through the prism of monarch mind control i saw it through the prism of do you know what i'll look really good in that tonight and i did i see pictures of that outfit now and i go i look fucking boss and i was thin and i was thin and uh you know i think it was like the last it was that like that last fuckable day i think it was like this is my last fuckable day everybody enjoy it but um yeah the the wearing of the outfit from my soul to yours was just a man seeing an outfit and enjoying it because i liked it it's not everybody's taste but um yeah rob can we just clear someone up here right i don't mean any not not me but i'm sure most people watching we we don't in any way fucking think you're a satanist or am i it it's just these questions that that people have right and you've been so gracious to you know you know like like yeah i did have a butterfly table the wife i said to myself when i lived in a vision of brown in the hills of bevelishire fuck me this needs an upgrade and then i thought to myself i'm not going to bother i'm just going to wait till i find a wife then she can do it so she did it you know she got a she got a budget enough she went and she did this house in london and she did it impeccably her style and her taste is just i bow down to her she's a she's a maven when it comes to that stuff does my wife know that i'm talking to you about this tonight does my wife know anything about this subject no not really you know every now and again when there's a nugget a gold nugget i'll just go here look at this so she has the information you know and she'll go like that the rest of the time she goes off and buy some furniture she likes fucking butterflies i don't arrive into my living room in that london house and look at the the the table and think monarch mind control i just think there's a nice table that my wife bought you know that's that's the i don't think you could be monarch mind control to have the conversation we we just had but that's when you get into the layers and layers and layers of conspiracy you know which will undoubtedly happen um yeah and butterflies are beautiful things too you know i i like a butterfly but that's about the size of it you know when i i read i was walking around the bodhi tree which is a very very powerful bookshop here in los angeles incredible it's sort of add what we consider to be the truth of everything it was a mind blowing bookshop about the esoteric and a bent down and there's david ike's book and i picked it up and i opened it and read a bit and went fuck me it spoke to me you know it spoke to me and i um yeah it spoke to me and led me to many different places uh and if you look at me in my radio there's a song called radio and in that i grow a tail out of my ass and that is me going anybody else checking this anybody else seeing this uh anybody else get what this reference is you know which is which is why there has to be care and attention drawn to throwing dispersions of people on the internet jumping into their comment rooms and claiming them to have affiliations with the darkest forces that have ever ruled this planet how can you just do how can you cast that dispersion upon somebody without having firm evidence yeah i'd say it's to anybody listening you know don't say something in a comment section you wouldn't say to our faces people don't you just look like a twat you just you know it's not a free referendum to just or for a marvita that's it chris people never ever say to my face what people write in comment sections and my day to day life at least for the last 15 years i mean when i lived in stoke they did they said it to me face and they also gave me a lot of love too but um these days you think anybody comes up to me and says what anybody said leaves anonymously in a comment room fucking shithouses you absolute fucking cowardly bastards fucking give your edible i've give your life a shake you fucking spineless cunts and yeah you know what i'm talking to not you other lot the light giving lovers i love you but the other lot spineless cowards snakes well it is is a thing too just to delve back into the love aspect of it because i can get carried away with how excellent and inflaming it feels to be angry and vitriolic towards people there is a real energy in that and i felt it you know it's visceral to dip back into the love energy for a second you know we all have our blind spots chris has his blind spots me rob i have my blind spots and they are blind spots because we can't fucking see them those people that are leaving comments too you have your blind spots too be kind if you spot something about is that we can't see about ourselves you don't have to shout at us we just don't know let us not know just let us not know takes nothing out of your day if you see it and it annoys you go about your day go about your day you're not going to change us you know i dipped into the hate aspect then again but i'm just saying you know give people a chance give give people a chance definitely rob are you going to stay on the line when i just say goodbye um yeah because then i i want to um when we're off camera i want to ask what what high heels you bought lately and if you've got if you've got any uh nice dresses is that what you guys in the marines do is that a marines reference you got it mate you you know your bodyguards so for everybody at home massive massive love to you all thanks for watching another um edition of the bought this issue podcast massive thank you to robbie for just coming on and speaking is true for that's all we can do in life so rob thank you mate bless you chris and bless everybody out there in listening land keep fighting the good fights have discernment and try and stay in the love i'm going to try my best i do enjoy hating a lot it's um it's powerful but uh it's progress and not perfection that i'm seeking i'm off to seek some more love why don't you all join me hello friend i hope this finds you well my name is chris thrall i'm a former rawnry's commando and i fought my way back from chronic trauma and addiction to live work and travel in 80 countries across all seven continents achieving all of my dreams and goals along the way now i pass my simple system on to other people but i can only help you if you like and subscribe so please do so because you get one life and if you live it right one is enough