 It's true, and you false-honey. Spongy. Today it is. I'm a false official Twitter account. And 2D! Oh my goodness, what have we done? I don't know what we did, need to. We finally watched a shала. The 1975 film starting Amatok Bakjan. Amatok Bakjan. Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding. And say... Sanjiv Kumar. Yep. And Helen the girl who's dancing for Gavar and crew in the middle right after the intermission. She starts belly dancing Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. That's Helen cool And say that name for me too as well I'm just calm. I'm a place gobbler. Yes. Yes gobbler saying not copyers, right Foreman saying but this not so I for me real quick after his family is murdered By a notorious and ruthless bandit a former police officer enlists the services of two outlaws to capture the bandit. It's directed by Ramesh Sippy. Ramesh Sippy in 1975. And it's a Sippy production. Oldest film We've obviously it's a sport because a hundred percent of you have seen this. Yeah So I'm not gonna go no spoilers here. Exactly. No, but for those of you who haven't liked that one American subscriber in Des Moines Go watch it and then come back But this is a Three hour and 35 minute film. I believe how long it was good Exact time there. Thank you. Yeah but Whoa, whoa, your initial thoughts. I have mixed emotions. Okay. What about you? It depends It depends. Oh, yeah. Well, your what we're thoughts It's a very Strange mixture of genre. Mm-hmm as well as a very strange mixture of moments that I thought were Fantastic and other moments that were really bothersome. Mm-hmm Ultimately, I can't deny the importance of the film in terms of what it did and It was it was groundbreaking as far as like I've done a little research on it since we watched it in terms of It was a huge big budget movie. It broke records in terms of people watching it. It was Not a critical success at first, but then it was a monster success and still is for people But it's definitely a cult classic. Yeah, definitely a cult classic So and it had there were moments where I was deeply deeply impressed And then there were other moments where I was Confused and didn't understand so it's a it's a it's a mixed bag for me Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, I could understand that and all that kind of stuff. I actually really ended up enjoying this I watched it with my wife And she helped me a lot actually because her growing up with her father Westerns with their that was their genre. Yeah, that's what they watched. Yeah And so she was able to help me. She was like I looked it up. This was actually inspired by the magnificent seven the original magnificent seven Which you can tell after watching it. Yeah, she said also after watching it She was like it was actually very reminiscent of the good bad and the ugly. Yep And so in the middle of it because I watch is probably in about Two and a half parts. Mm-hmm. I stopped because obviously it's long and so I didn't want it to drag on for my ADD brain So I kind of split it up But she was able to explain to me she was like it's actually very reminiscent of old Westerns 100% In the best of ways in terms of I was like so just did old Westerns often have like because the main characters I thought were amazing and we'll get into them. I thought the Amataka Bakchan the other main guy Whatever his name is Sanjeev please hear and then I'm at Khan. I thought we're all yeah, Sanjeev please soccer And then and then yeah, I'm a say his name I'm just calm. They got a place to develop. Oh, yeah I thought we're all really really good and grounded performances Yes, and then obviously does some of the side characters were very over dramatic and I was like is that normally she's like Yes, it's actually very normal. You have your especially old old Hollywood Westerns. Yeah, like you have your John Wayne's or your What's his? Cool hand Luke. What's his name? Paul Newman was cool hand Luke Cleannies with as well. Yeah very grounded Hero, but then the side characters often very exaggerated characters kind of like that main first guy in That they got them the half of the reward Mahan, he was very that and then Basanti when we first met her was that way, right? I think it was on purpose. They just wanted us to be annoyed by her off. He's yes Big B was annoyed. Yes I was like, oh god But a lot of the flaws with this I couldn't really hold against it like the length the old Hollywood stuff, right? That's long as hell too. It's just how films were made back then and this is gonna be even longer It's Indian so it's gonna be even longer, right? And then some of the acting she explained to me she was like I think it was on purpose a lot of these actors Were very heightened on purpose. Yeah Not the main three they were incredible like I said we'll talk about them But I actually ended up really enjoying it because it was so unique and it established itself in the beginning as being weird It established itself at what point did it become that for you when they were on the? Motorcycle, yeah, that's that's when I realized I actually liked I liked that it got quirky weird Yeah, I was very impressed with the opening train. Oh, so was I I was that's very being made a long time ago I'm 1975 but a long time ago. It was very impressive some of the fight scenes I some of the train scene similar 100% agree. It was as good The stunt work and the action sequences were as good as Anything you would have seen in American TV and film and in the mid 1970s Some of the stunt work was just freaking Fantastic and when you realize how little technological advances they had at the time how how Just the minimal things they had to do to make it work And make it work well the thing I was there were the two things I was most impressed by in which for me Elevates this to a point where I can't deny the greatness of the movie. I consider it to be a great movie But the watchability factor which I'll talk about in the second was was hard for me in a lot of spots the greatness of it for me is is Threefold first the quality the action sequence they had a burn sequence When burn sequences weren't really being done let alone mastered They had a full upper-body burn that they held on camera for a good 15 seconds that I just was floored by as well as horse work as well as I mean a lot of horse work just just Fantastic stunt work top top top of them notch did not know that Indian cinema was at that level of Action this not work secondarily. I felt the the performances of the main three that you talked about were Astonishingly grounded and Basanti even got better eyes. Yeah, I think it went on 100% and it's not a surprise no that the people who are the most grounded are theatrically trained and come from theater background I mean and then also the primary story the main story throughout about this detective and this villain and Their feud and what their feud was about and how it happened and how these two guys play a part in that I Love that more than anything and I would like to take that story sincerely I think that story should be taken and could be turned into a contemporary American Western and be a Absolutely phenomenal story. I mean it's it is loaded with fury and anger and hurt and So those are my favorite takeaways. Yeah, and we can talk about like them I thought the way they were introduced because This was a very different performance for For me that we've seen 100% I mean, no, most people probably saw this like this is his first day Yeah, but the sense we've known him kind of reverse Right and going back. He's like it's so such a different performance. He's so cool and Collected and yeah, very shy. Yeah and but very direct and like he was definitely the star of this film and I love The way it ended with him dying. I didn't see coming. I was like, oh, this is awesome Yeah, but I told Steph at the beginning because I looked it up She was like, what is this based on because she has seen every Western like I said, yeah She's what is this based off or she's like I said, oh it says it's based off of Magnificent seven. She's like, oh, it's gonna be sad. Yeah. I said, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah night to Western's I love Western's just love Western's and oftentimes was wanting us to just be a pure Western Mm-hmm. You know, I I like how I know I like how weird it was. I think I probably liked it more than you You probably did let me ask you if you like this because I'll tell you the thing I just did not like to the point of detesting and just was like get rid of this please was the whole Hitler Nazi prison guard guy That that section for me was that threw me so bad because I was expecting a very deeply grounded dramatic Western style story with maybe some points of humor and it went from Being like the Magnificent seven to Mel Brooks. Yeah, I'm like, but that only lasts. What's the point? But that only lasted 10 minutes true that and then it got it was also like they was Once again, she's really intelligent. Yes. She said that was like she like right when the shot when he was playing with the Ball she was like that's Charlie Chaplin. It's a dude. It was a direct shot. Yeah, Charlie Chaplin had as Hitler Yes, doing the world. Yes, it was clearly something that they wanted. Yes in it It might have worked at the time. It was just it was obviously weird It didn't bother me because it didn't continue with the film right God But it was like this is 10 minutes. I kind of just threw it away It was one of those things obviously this film that my biggest flaw for it was that it was so long And you can't like I said, I can't really blame it because that's right I can't westerns were that way. It's India. So, of course, it's long course But obviously that's the only flaw I could find, you know Like I could watch this again and now like since I don't have to watch the dialogue I can fast forward and then I could also just like go do something while certain scenes are on to come back when there's an Amazing action scene the train scene because there were some amazing scenes in this scene There's also some great acting scenes between great the people the the first scene that really really Like drew me in where I was Completely captivated felt like what I was have what I was watching was really happening in the way that great dramatic dangerous moments and Westerns do was that moment when Gavir Singh's men come and they disappointed him by failing to do what they were supposed to do I loved it and he's got the three of them there with his gun and he puts the three bullets in That's a that scene was written shot and acted brilliant that actor was amazing. Yeah Obviously outside of Big B. He was definitely my favorite part one of the most pleasant surprise Yeah, because I didn't anticipate somebody coming up that we didn't know who would play a bad guy Well, I I know he was coming cuz when I've asked people said so what scenes should we recreate from old Bollywood? They it was often they wanted I didn't know what they were talking about. I didn't seen it But they said some scene from Corbin can play they wanted me to play the villain And I remember the one of the first memes that was created for us was the motorcycle meme And we had no idea what that was Oh a hundred percent But they just popped up out of nowhere And when they were driving let's just point out for a second to lead actors because it was both of the lead actors They were driving in that motorcycle in sidecar in Pretty life-threatening ways They were bouncing all over the place and I thought you have your lead actors in Extremely precarious positions right now and and you don't care I thought that was pretty they're probably being pulled on a Yeah, but they were still moving at normal clips and at any moment they could have tossed over and really injured themselves But I loved it. I love that because I also love that it established This is not gonna be a typical Western. It's gonna be like a really quirky right Western right in parts and so I was like I was like cool. They're establishing this in the beginning So you're not kind of thrown off when something which I would something weird and I did appreciate that I did appreciate the weirdness and the annoying aspect of Basanti the thing that read the one The only thing that for me was really a Why was the Nazi prison sequence I felt like it was pointless Yeah, I also felt at the very ending and this is this is like unit picking the time giving a permission but it was it went from I felt being very very grounded to the the climax being melodramatic in terms of The way it was being told and it went from being really believable to being not believable at the very very end I kind of got disconnected at the end of bit when the guy with no arms was killing him with his feet Yeah, I didn't I actually thought it was funny I thought it was going back to the corking is it was like the almost Monty Python. It's like I know which It's just a flesh room. I know but for me. It's like watching Clint Eastwood in a whole movie suddenly go Yeah, but they let it let it let it. I hope you like this show. I'm like, what are you doing right now guys? Yeah, but they established themselves as it wasn't a Clint Eastwood thing So I was like it did it had very grounded moments. Yeah, but then it also had very quirky moments Of course, it's gonna it's gonna go back and forth. I didn't mind that part. I was like, this is corky It's yeah, of course I mean I was like right when I saw that he had the spikes. I was like, oh, this is gonna be epic Yeah, I wanted I wanted the ending why that's that's your fault. No because that's what it was It established itself. They literally had a sidecar go off and then come back on its own true But those were ancillary fillers Honoring other moments. The main story was very grounded and very serious They didn't do anything quirky with gober sing and his three guys. They didn't do anything quirky when The detectives family is murdered They didn't do anything quirky. Well, those are different parts there They they right have a different parts for each thing, but that's what I'm talking about That's that's through story and it wasn't like it wasn't like slapstick. It was meant to be like Kind of weird, but it was also not meant. I think the only weird part was that They didn't have the technology to really show this guy Because obviously it looked like a dummy when he was but they didn't really have the technology then and then it also Came back at the end when he like just broke down at the end that he's finally killed him And he's finally sobbing about his family that I liked I would have Went I just this was made in 1975 Rick. I know that it was made in 1975 I'm not talking about the technological aspects. I'm talking about the storytelling When I saw he had pointy shoes, I Thought he wanted to kill. That's the only way you can kill. He doesn't have any arms or legs It's just a flesh wound right So for me, I didn't like the quirkiness until they bring it in at the end I didn't even really like the quirkiness. I Don't think you've got the film. I Don't think you understood it. I may not have I just know I felt there was an Extremely powerful story being told that turned into The kind of silliness I see an over-the-top exaggerated films that have come out of it wasn't that In the end it was exaggerated because it was like, I mean this probably won't happen But it wasn't like three stooches. No, it wasn't three stooches But the level of believability went completely out the window Well, the level of believability of the whole thing is weird They these guys can't shoot like that with those types of guns that fast the whole thing is kind of unbelievable Well, not so much so that a man without arms is going to definitively beat up another guy with arms and He suddenly goes At his age. He's doing feats of superhuman strength of his jumping I'm not saying it's not weird But it's not like it was out of the realm of the film the film established itself as it says not really in reality But it had so many grounded moments and it also had so many not grounded moments and the not grounded moments Weren't part of the main story. That's my point. Yes, they were You think that the story of this film is is Dismantled by removing the Nazi guy in it That's not the only part I'm talking about. No, I don't know the rest of it is like they like they have so many Moments where they defy gravity where they like defy logic defy physics But they don't do it in the context of the meaty story. They do it as ancillaries It wasn't that odd really that you didn't The final fight sequence for you didn't disconnect you and make you think this is mellow dramatic I was like, this is exactly what the film has been. That's what it was to me Okay, full like the moment with gobbler saying it is three guys. There was nothing quirky or unbelievable Once again, the whole thing is not quirky. They they go in and do quirkiness every which lay every little parts They don't do it right all at once agreed But the court talking about this too much You didn't like it I get it no no no no As a whole it's not that I didn't like the film. I didn't like that aspect Anyways, but I like this guy a lot the Ahmed Khan. I thought he did really really well. I thought something that's got her Yeah, yeah, very Surprisingly, I like his quirkiness. I like the fact that he kept laughing and he was kind of almost Off as a rocker. I Believe he was dangerous. Yes. I believed him as this character. So I thought that was really really good I'd like to see more of him if he's like still acting or no, he died in 1992 and more of Helen See you already forgot I don't know why that was such a big deal to you But I thought the Basanti number When she was she had to dance there wasn't Basanti who danced it was Helen No in front gobbler sing. Yeah. Yeah, that wasn't oh, yeah, that was Basanti when she stepped on the glass No, no, no, that's a different dance sequence No, I'm talking about the end when they threw glass and the things that if you don't keep dancing He's gonna die right right right right. That's not it. Correct. That was that's what I'm talking about Yeah, I'm not talking about whoever the hell you're talking about. No, I'm talking about Basanti She's actually main character. Got it. Um, but I love that sequence Yeah, and also did you pick up on where we've heard that before? No That song well that it was inspired the song we heard was inspired by show let Super 30 Really Basanti don't dance in front of these dogs Did you pick up on that on your own? No, okay? Wow? I would have been so impressed No, that was purely something you saw on man. Oh, it's that connection Wow in the super 30 review Yeah, so we talked about we liked it and somebody was like that's from show lay So I kept actually waiting for the ah, okay I kept waiting for the wow and then the song never came But yeah, she was like he said Basanti don't dance in front of these dogs Yeah, I was waiting for Basanti to dance and that's he just said the line But that's cool. What a cool little shout out. That is yeah super 30. Yeah, that was that was great We thought it was just made up. I mean, it's a they did their English from They're watching of show lay So they got that obviously watch that's very we didn't get that yeah, not at all no show lay at all Yeah, but yeah, I thought it was really cool. I Do know there was some behind-the-scenes romances going on here. Oh, really and shenanigans of sorts Yeah, I'm most cast members Everybody Literally all the leads. Oh really there was triangles and people wanting other people who shouldn't be wanting other people Because they're married and and yeah, like between all of the leads really. Yeah Cool, but it was also apparently in the book and I got this from that the Bollywood book of the Ground-breaking nature of of the film in terms of it was a considered at the time a massive budget film It was like I guess nine or ten million US dollars at the time Which was really really high and made 30 million ultimately, which is a huge Beautiful success to make three times what we put into the film a lot of other aspects of it that were very very groundbreaking I love a lot of the songs. I thought they were really really cool Unique yeah old-school style songs. I love the main three They were obviously my favorite part was the just especially big B He was amazing and then he was really good to use probably my third favorite But the villain and big B were definitely my favorites. Yeah in terms of their gravitas and I will say this as well I I liked a couple of other things we haven't mentioned I did I did really I felt that the music throughout not just the songs because I like the songs But I felt that the the music granted at times. This was the 1970s Someone would say a line and the orchestra would done it done that was normal You get they get a pass for that the but I really liked the use of music throughout when it was used How it was used if I felt like we were in that did the that world did the Foley work take you back to yesteryear Yeah, really did and I can't say I really I really can't say enough about the special effects the action sequences on the stunt work I was deeply deeply the opening of the film was amazing amazing the train so the train sequence and amazing wasn't incredible I can't stress for those of you Who who can easily take for granted what you see today with the special effects that we have today What they had to do for that sequence. Oh, yeah I think that sequence of our memory correctly took two weeks to shoot really. Yeah, which is not a surprise No, because that was a real train Really moving with real stunt work falls off of it that you not only had to capture But then you had to capture it and make sure you had continuity Yeah, so everything look right I Just incredible this movie needs to be watched for people just to be shown You know, it's one of the things we talked about in terms of Americans not appreciating the fact that India has not been The impression we had before we started the channel was that American cinema has always been doing this and at every level always and Indian cinema is like Light years behind us. This is a great example of how that stereotype is needing to be smashed because the quality of the action and the stunt work and Everything with the cinematography in the direction was comparable to anything you would have seen in American cinema and TV at the time All of the TV series all of those westerns that we mentioned. It's at that level. I'm glad we got to a classic Yeah, me too, and so we can kind of know the differences in between Yeah, this era the 90s era and in the current era. I think that three eras of Bollywood. Yeah but But my one of my favorite lines was from Basanti when she was running away from the bandits Oh, she's like run horse. It's a matter of my chest today This is a great line and she went for me. She went from being I was annoyed with her like like big B was like, oh goodness Talking got a lot more normal. I really liked her toward the end. I was like, this is this is a sweet girl I like this girl. Yeah, and I could see way and the other thing. I'm so glad I remember this I love any movie That can depict the love of two men for one another without sexualizing it Just because so often and understandably so because there haven't been stories that have been told that actually do depict That when that has happened But it was really beautiful to see two guys who so just a friendship the deeply loving friendship the literal sense I got emotional even though it had the mellow drama. I was getting emotional with Viru Oh, yeah, they're telling him don't leave me. He did a great job. I don't want to live without you You know, I thought he did a really good job. I called the double-sided coin, too Oh, did you I called that? I was like, that's a double any time I see a coin. I'm like That's the cynic in the cynic in the sketch. That's a double-sided coin. Yeah, I'm so not that much I was like oh It was a double-sided coin he was always gonna do the things that was best for his buddy Yeah, I'm such a goof. Yeah, I was so I'm so gullible. Yeah, I really loved it I could definitely watch this again. I could watch it again. I would skip through the Nazi crowd Yeah, I would watch it like I think a lot of people like it's on and they'll do stuff while it's on come back They're in the good scene 100 that's how people watch this film Yeah, and I could totally do that because there's so many great scenes in this. Yeah, but yeah 100% love it. What other classics should we watch next, please? Yes There's I mean, there's a ton. There's time. We need to watch Joda Akbar. There's that other one That's I always forget the name starts with a B though. I can see I know the comments I have literally been requesting this every day for eight months Because we know you have Thank you for your patience