 Esta semana en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas, reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. Están poniendo en cuenta varios casos de rape y asalto sexual contra los terroristas y garros que han entrado en Israel en octubre 7. La unidad de la Unión 433 está conectando testimonios. Es parte de una investigación más amplia en casos de asalto, tortura y otras atrocidades. ¿Police decir que la condición de algunos de los miembros de las víctimas femeninas, no hay duda de que haya asalto rape y asalto sexual? Bueno, después de los eventos del 7 de octubre este año, fue decidido por la Policía de Israel para aplicar la investigación para el amor de la historia de las víctimas falsas, la Unión Nacional para la Seria y para organizar el crimen. Estamos dedicados a nosotros durante los últimos meses para obtener evidencia para todas las atrocidades y todas las acciones tomadas por Hamas en Israel en el 7 y 8 de octubre. Como mencioné, antes de que estemos preparando la evidencia, primero, contra los miembros de Hamas que han sido asesinados aquí en Israel durante las acciones, segundo, estamos demostrando lo que ha ocurrido en todo el establecimiento, en todos los miembros de la base armada, para proporcionar una base evidente para la prosecutación del futuro de los miembros de Hamas aquí en Israel. Pero los grupos de las víctimas y las víctimas femeninas han sido silenciosos sobre el tema. Reem Al-Salem, por ejemplo, la moneda UN para la violencia contra las víctimas ha condemnado la violencia sexual todo el mundo, pero ha dicho nada sobre la asalto de las víctimas de Israel y de los niños. Para hablar más sobre eso, Orid Solyzenu es el director exécutivo de la asociación de los centros de crisis de la crisis aquí en Israel. Gracias, Shandy, por estar con nosotros. Primero, es bastante gráfico, pero el policía dice que este caso podría tomar meses porque fue imposible usar las procedencias standardas que se usan en los casos de la violencia, simplemente porque los vistas de las víctimas fueron tan malas que destruían. Sí, sí. No me imagino nunca que una asalto de Israel suchas atrocidades pudiera suceder. Esto es más de la imaginación de ver la evidencia, el sadismo y el modo que los terroristas de Hamas tratan de una mujer israelí. Es increíble. Y, por supuesto, los vistas no quieren ver información gráfica porque es muy difícil pero la atrocidad es tan horrible que es muy difícil de colar las evidencias y las cosas que han sucedido. Creo que es muy difícil de hablar, pero creo que es también necesario para la gente entender lo que ha pasado y también tenemos que balancear, por supuesto, el respeto para la enfermedad. El testimonio es muy difícil porque estamos hablando de mujeres que son mutiladas, que son gang rapes, tenemos evidencia de casos horríficos de violencia sexual de la Mass. ¿Puedes hablar un poco de eso sin, ya sabes, entrar en un idioma que es tan obsesionante? Sí, lo haré. Voy a decir algo. A mí personalmente, soy personalmente la segunda generación de los holocaustos, el survivor de mi madre, que era un niño cuando los holocaustos sucedieron. Mi madre fue en Auschwitz y se sufrió mucho. Y ser una hermana de ella y aprender sobre lo que sucedió, es algo que no se puede imaginar de qué historia, de alguna manera, se repite. Y lo que sucedió en Israel es otro holocausto. El mundo debe saber, el mundo debe saber, y hay manifestos a los rapes. En Israel hoy, viviendo survivors y manifestos a los rapes de la gang, de la gang rapes, de cortar las brisas, de jugar con ellos, de abrir a la madre, la madre preguna, el estómago, y de tirar la bomba, y de matar a ella, de gang raping a una mujer, una después de otra, después de otra, y en el final, tirando a ella, y rapeando, tal vez, una 14, 15-year-old mujer, y finding her dead in one of the kibutsim with sperm on her body, putting a baby in an oven when her mother sees that and killing him when he is alive, and burning people alive, burning them when they are alive. How can somebody even comprehend this kind of sadism? It's not just terrorism. In Israel, unfortunately, we live for many years and we suffer from terrorism. But this is not terrorism. It's sadism. And I don't know how can people, how can human beings do such horrific horrible things? And the world should know that. The world should know that. And I mean, we've had a global movement in recent years. Haven't we? The Me Too movement. And a noble fight against sexual assault and rape that was hidden for too long. Too many women were silenced and they all came out and shared their experience. And it did see real life changes. We were told, won't we believe all women? It doesn't seem to apply to Israeli women. I don't know how to answer you and I hope you can one day interview somebody from you and a woman. But this is horrific. Why did women organizations, why were they established? They were established because women all over the world, they share the same problems, they share the same violence, they share the same problems, the same wage gaps, the problems of women worldwide. This is something about sisterhood that we're all together and we fight patriarchy and we want to change the world so we'll be better for everybody. Woman, girls and men. This is how we are practicing feminism for many, many years. What happened now? I cannot understand how anti-Semitism is so strong, so dominant that these women, these feminists, these girls are quiet. I don't understand that. I think history will remember them if they won't do something right now. The moral values of the leaders, of you and women and the leaders of other big organizations around the world, these moral values do not exist and we will remember and the history will remember. So I really hope something will change because how can a woman sit quiet when they hear that there was a systematic gang rape, systematic rape that were... This was the order of the commando of the Hamas terrorists. How can a woman be quiet when she hears such a thing? How can somebody be quiet when they hear the baby was baked in an oven? This is pure sadism and to do it when the mother sees that or another evidence... The mother was raped and the baby was murdered before her eyes. There's evidence of that. People still trying to deny it. We will reach out to Rima Al-Salem, by the way, the UN spokesperson on violence against women. We'll see what she has to say about it. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. The rockets have been fired at Northern Israel from Lebanon. Sirens going off in Mar-Galead and also in Kiryat Shmona, I believe, in the last few minutes, that is. Let's go to the north. You're right, Laura, in the communities of Kiryat Shmona and Mar-Galead Sirens were triggered within the last recent minutes. That coinciding with rocket alerts also going on in Ashkelon in the south and a bit after that, going off in the community of Miscav. Now we're speaking about these three localities which are all located in the upper Galilee region in the very eastern part. Some of them really sitting on the border with Lebanon. Miscav is really very, very close. We're speaking about areas that have already been widely evacuated, but we've been to Kiryat Shmona only yesterday and you do still see that some of those residents there remain. But these communities, these are locations that have gotten under constant anti-tank missile fire, but also rocket fire coming from southern Lebanon only two weeks ago, 12 rockets were fired onto the city of Kiryat Shmona. Izbala claimed responsibility for that, those rockets causing damage to infrastructure. There are no casualties, but that really just shows you how volatile the situation is because in the last 24 hours there were no reports of major events here in the north. There were reports of anti-tank missiles being launched towards Israeli communities but that has very much become the routine here in the north. But now that these red alert sirens were triggered indicating that there might have been rockets coming from southern Lebanon, there are no details in terms of what has happened there exactly as of now, because again these sirens just went down a couple of minutes ago. That just really shows you how volatile, how dangerous the situation is and also exactly why these very northern communities have already been widely evacuated, Laura. Alright, Pia, thank you very much indeed. So then we can see more action going on in the north. I think we're going to go to the south as well, our correspondent Pia Klushendler standing by. Alright, we'll be with Pia in a moment. He's just getting set up. Well, amid all of this, some have called it a sight for sore eyes. We're talking about the very large rally for Israel which took place in Washington DC yesterday. I didn't have this report. Alright, we're waiting to hear that report. We're having a few technical problems. This hour, alright. Well, let's have a look at this report then on IDF veterans who have disabilities. Apparently, we cannot do anything this hour, so let's bring you up to date with the very latest this hour. We've, in the last few minutes, we've had rocket sirens blaring in the north of Israel. Of course, we have in the last 40 days had skirmishes between the IDF troops and terrorists for the Iranian-backed organization Hezbollah. Hezbollah's chief, Hassan Nasrallah, has spoken twice in the past two weeks and has taken it as a sign that he is not willing to become fully involved in the war. But, of course, this is a war situation. Thousands of Israelis have had to move away from the conflict zone in the north. We've just had rocket-alert sirens in the north for the first time in some 18 hours. This is kind of an example of periods of calm followed by periods of rocket fire. In some cases, anti-tank mortars fired from across the border and you've got rocket-alert sirens now in Kiryat Shmona, a large town which has been mostly evacuated of its civilians in recent weeks. We've had rockets fired from the south as well, rockets in Ashkelon and in the community surrounding Gaza. We can bring you this report now on IDF vets with disabilities and the treatment that they're getting. It was the biggest gathering of American Jews in history with an estimated number of people who have been evacuated from the border. It was the biggest gathering of American Jews in history with an estimated of 290,000 people streaming into Washington, D.C. to show support for Israel and its fight against Hamas to demand release of hostages seized on October 7 and to stand up against anti-Semitism. How we are living is hard to describe to you. We hostage families have lived the last 39 days as a result of an emotional torment. These children of God range in age from 9 months to 87 years. They are Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Hindu. Why are they being left underground in the dirt? Protests and demonstrations both pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian since Hamas terrorists ravaged through southern Israel killing hundreds and kidnapping 240 hostages back to Gaza. Since then, the conflict has sparked a rise in anti-Semitism which has spread like wildfire in many cities throughout the world and on social media platforms. Wild star loved ones are held captive in Gaza and our soldiers are fighting for our beloved Israel. Jews all over the world are assaulted for being Jewish. The hatred, the lies, the brutality, the disgraceful outburst of ancient anti-Semitism are an embarrassment to all civilized people and nations. The rally was a show of strength and to remind America and the world that the phrase never again is not to be taken lightly. That report on the largest gathering of American Jews in history, nearly 300,000 people in Washington to support Israel and to demand the immediate return of the hostages. Well, let's go to the south of Israel now for the very latest on what is happening inside Gaza. Pierre Kloschenler is there. Pierre, what's happening? Well, first of all, after a lull of 18 hours, the longest lull that Israel had in terms of rocket fire since the beginning of the war, 40 días ago, there's been a rocket attack on the villages around the security fence with the Gaza Strip as well as in the city of Ashkelon. We saw four interceptions, but there was an impact on a pavement in the city of Ashkelon and it seems at least that there is no casualty, only a hole in a pavement according to the pictures that I received from the municipality of Ashkelon. Now, regarding Shifa Hospital, it's going to take time. It's going to take time because it's a large hospital complex with at least 10 buildings and annexes. Israel knows that hospital very well because they renovated it in 1983. So they know part of the basement. They don't know the tunnels and the metro. And this, it seems, is the primary target of the hospital, what lies beneath the hospital and not so much what's above the hospital. Although they found weapon caches and they found Hamas assets according to the IDF. I don't know what assets means really in terms of details. That's the fog of war. But given that, there is no fire battle inside the hospital, no bombing of the hospital, simply calming the area room after room, floor after floor, interviewing patients, medical personnel as well as displaced Palestinians. There's all in all, something like 2,000 people in the compound of the hospital. And there is no traces of the hostages and they probably were channeled through the metro of Gaza and the ground to another location. But given that, this is a symbol, a symbol of the humanitarian predicament of the war of the Palestinians. And as such, the IDF is very conscious of that issue and is working step by step, measuredly in a very monitored way. So that is going to take quite a lot of time. And Pierre, Israel is getting a lot of heat from the international community today, even though the United States has backed Israel over its claim to the Al-Shifa Hospital, is a Hamas Command Center, the UN, the Red Cross, the World Health Organization, all condemning Israel today for its operation. And what Israel says is a limited part of the Al-Shifa Hospital compound. Right, but I think what's most important is the green light, in effect a green light, given by the spokesperson of the White House and by the deputy spokesperson of the Pentagon that they do confirm that the Al-Shifa Hospital is an operational and command center, maybe probably the most important of them. So they do understand, they do say that Hamas is using the hospital as a human shield and the people that are in the hospital as a human shield and that in effect is a green light for Israel to pursue the operation, although with a warning, don't bomb the hospital, don't engage in firefights inside the hospital. And this is exactly what the IDF has been doing. No battle according to an IDF security source to I-24 News. No firefights inside the hospital, no bombing. The only firefight that occurred was early this morning when the Israeli forces were engaged by terrorists as they were entering the hospital compound. We understand that four or five terrorists from Hamas were killed while throwing IEDs and shooting at the IDF forces and since then, nothing. What we know is that the IDF is doing its utmost to show the world that it's caring for the patients of the hospital. They've brought fuel, they've brought 37 incubators for the 37 premature newborns that are in the hospital, Egyptis, undertaking an effort to transfer those babies in those incubators to a safe haven on Egyptian territory for further treatment. The fuel and the incubators for four days in a row were negotiated by the IDF on telephone conversation with the personnel of the hospital with the management of the hospital. They brought the fuel to the entrance of the hospital. Two days ago, that fuel was refused. These incubators were brought yesterday at the entrance of the hospital. That also was refused by the management of the hospital and it seems, and the jurist and the pressure from Hamas. Now, this is, you know, the utmost that a military can do during a war, I suppose. Alright Pierre, thank you very much. Pierre Clashenda there with the latest on the situation inside Gaza and in southern Israel as well. Israel's bedroom in the community was severely affected by the terrorist attacks of October 7th. 19 were murdered and 7 are believed to be held hostage in Gaza. Often living on the fringes of Israeli society, some in the community say the attacks have shored up their sense of being Israeli. More in this report. The children always want their mother. Every day I'm in a movie with them. Mom, mom, when is she coming back? When is she this? When is she that? I try to convince them that their mother has gone to heaven that she's not coming back. Even to this day, one of them, the one in the first grade, you see this door at the entrance of the house. Well, every day she goes right out to the yard here. Almost every day she raises her finger up to the sky saying to me, there she is, there she is. I said, who is it? She says, mom. At the age of 47, Hamed Abouaral became a widower with nine children, the youngest only seven months old. That morning, his wife Fatima drove him to his agricultural job at Moshev Mivotim. When they reached the Ma'un intersection, she slowed down and gave the right of way to a line of bikers who were approaching. The first motorcycle started shooting at us. I pulled my wife to me. We said, God forbid, what is this? Who are they? So we saw the shooting didn't stop, the second and third motorcycle and the fourth and the fifth and the sixth. All of them, eight motorcycles shot at us. I look at my wife, bullets in the head, in the shoulder, the whole left side, even down to a foot. So I knew right away she could not survive. I managed to get her to say, there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. She said it four times and the fifth time she said, there is no God but Allah. She wanted to say, Muhammad is the messenger of Allah and then she died. Another worker who was sitting in the rear was killed and Hamed feared for the fate of his infant son who was sitting in the rear car seat. The baby was not crying, nothing. So I thought, what? Could the baby have also taken a bullet? I grabbed him, moved him and cried. I searched, picked up his clothes and all that. No, just shrapnel in the shoulder. For five long hours, Hamed was circling with his son in an infrastructure cabinet at the junction. Then when the Israeli army arrived, the Hamas terrorists fled. And they didn't hear you. Finally, he ran with the baby behind the soldiers and the remaining terrorists had been eliminated. Hamed's tragedy is part of the price paid by Bedouin society in this war. 19 were murdered and seven others were kidnapped to Gaza. Those who are considered to be the Israeli periphery, the fringes of society have now become victims of terrorism just like everyone else. Those who thought the Hamas would have mercy on Israeli Muslims realized that very morning how wrong they were. We don't want anyone to experience such a month. It's been a very difficult month to be here and our brothers kidnapped somewhere else. We never imagined such a thing. Every day when I go to sleep, I say, this is the last night. Maybe we will wake up in the morning. Yusef and his sons will be there. On the morning of that black Saturday in Kibbutz-Kholit, there were quite a few Thai and Bedouin workers. Including Yusef Alziadna and his children Hamza Bilal and 17-year-old Aisha. When the rocket started, they went into the shelter and then the family lost all contact with them. After a few minutes at 7.38, we received a video from Hamas that was uploaded to the networks. And there was Bilal, Yusef's son who was kidnapped. And there is Hamza lying on the floor and the Hamas people are next to them. At the same time, a few dozen meters from the barn, Bilal, Yusef's son-in-law was with his small children trying to hide but without success. I was caught twice. The first time they told me, if you don't have a weapon, we won't do anything to you. But sit quietly. We plan to take you to Gaza. We stayed until 3 o'clock. They arrived without weapons. These are bad people. I'm telling the truth. They took my phone, gave me some punches, took my money that I had, the car keys. While they were talking, an army tank arrived. They started telling me, if you shout, we will kill your children. But let's get out of here. You are quiet. We are quiet. So the older girl sees the army. She shows me, dad, the army. We started shouting to them. Where Israelis, Israelis, Israelis. For three weeks, the family members oscillated between hope and despair. They gave DNA and waited for identification until finally the IDF security cameras proved that their family members were marched alongside the Hamas terrorists into Gaza. Thank God, because we saw them alive. What happened to them now we don't know. Each boom we hear, we say God forbid. You should know that this boom is not where the abducted are. When I got home Sunday, I thought I had won. I thought that. But unfortunately not. Unfortunately I didn't win. Because I knew I left behind half my family who I love the most. The Bedouins became an integral part of the disaster. They are among the victims, the abductees. And there are those who also saved young people from the Nova Party in Kibbutraim. And surprisingly, it was precisely the great disaster and the heavy price that caused this remote sector to stick as close as possible to the state, to the people of Israel. Are you Israeli? Of course I am Israeli. Do you also feel Israeli? And I must feel Israeli. Because I live here. I've been in Israeli since then, brother. Time for a quick break. Stay with us. President Joe Biden says he believes the deal can be reached to free the hostages who are being held in Gaza. We're going to talk a bit more about that in a moment. But first there is widespread disappointment that the International Committee of the Red Cross has so far failed to gain access to any of the hostages. Mr. Rabbi Avidan Friedman has gone a step further. He is now on hunger strike in a bid to pressure the humanitarian organization to do more. The white plaza outside the Lviv Museum of Art has been turned into hostages square. Over the past few weeks, several installations, protests and public events dedicated to the 240 Israeli hostages have become a regular feature. But this particular spot is quite unique. On Friday, November 10, Rabbi Avidan Friedman decided to draw a circle and to stay inside it until the Red Cross visited the Israeli hostages Hamas is holding in Gaza. I came here to say I'm not moving from this spot drew a circle around myself and I'm not moving from this spot and I'm not eating until we have a visit from the Red Cross and my call is to the State of Israel to tell it that the people of Israel insist that we cannot be selective humanitarian aid and as long as there is not humanitarian visit of the Red Cross to all of the captives we cannot continue to allow humanitarian aid to Gaza. Friedman originally from Montreal, Canada is known for his activities in the organization which asks Israel to stop selling arms to human rights violators. He is now calling on other people to join him and spread his message. My wish is that there should be 240 circles here 240 circles of people sitting and hunger striking and saying we will not move from here until this happens and definitely people are already starting to join. Rabbi Friedman also referred to Tonya Meagel, a Jewish sage from the first century CE who according to tradition drew a circle sat inside it and told God he would not move until it rained. I pray to God that he helps us but I think God is also on us and wants us to do what we need to and so I call on the state of Israel to stand by its citizens in the strongest way possible. The Red Cross told Israeli media recently that it's their job to provide humanitarian assistance to all civilians but in order to do so they need to be given access inside Gaza meanwhile families of the abducted Israelis and those who are helping them continue their struggle. Well let's take a listen to President Biden then he said yesterday that he believes a deal to free the hostages being held in Gaza can be reiterious answering questions at a press conference on climate change. And there have been various unconfirmed reports about a deal which ranges from the release of hostages in exchange for a ceasefire or in exchange for Palestinian prisoners. Israel says negotiations are being handled by the CIA, the Mossads and Qatar which hosts the Hamas leadership. While Hadas Calderon's elderly mother and niece were murdered by Hamas and her 12 year old son Erez and her 16 year old daughter Shacha along with her husband Offer were taken hostage in Hadas Now thank you for joining us Hadas and first of all can I just ask how are you doing it's been 40 days now I can't imagine how you're coping with this Yeah cause it's under any imagination of course it's a it's a long nightmare what can I say long nightmare I'm in a hell of a time worried when I you know I think about them who helped them to go to sleep when I drink, when I eat whatever I do when I take a shower I think about them if they get it, what condition they are in I know they are in a bad conditions because they surrounded there is a war down there they hear all the bombs I don't know yesterday there was it was raining and I was thinking wow it's raining maybe also in Gaza you know if maybe they seek if something happened to them who helped them who will make sure they okay it's a lot of triggers that make me worried all the time I'm sure I can't imagine what you're going through and I just want to say that we're all thinking of you all the time Hadas listen I understand that the families of the hostages there's a bit of a divide between those who want a ceasefire as some kind of hope of bringing back their family members and others who don't who think the idea should just continue with what it's doing can I ask you what your thoughts are my point of view is that of course of course we have to take care and make sure the all hostages come back we are obligate for all of them and I do care for all of them babies, children, elderly men, women, soldiers whatever but here we have an opportunity and we can't miss it we mustn't miss this opportunity because the time here is critical every moment it's still there you probably heard about this girl, this soldier Noa and she's dead now yesterday they've been alive tomorrow I don't know so there is an opportunity we must take it and fight for it and take it with all our hands we mustn't don't show this movie I can't see this movie please don't show those pictures please make me I'm sorry for that it's very hard for me to see this movie because then as a mom I can see the helpless and the terrified terrified face of my son that is already have in normal days he has he's anxious he's anxious he has panic attacks he's just 12 he's just 12 years old yes but we are 20 years he's been bombing you know he has a lot of panic attack and I always have to sit nearby for an hour to make him sleep to relax him he can stay alone in the house imagine this boy little boy, young boy been taken cruel away from his bed with pyjama and all the way together probably so dead people bodies, shooting, chaos pogrom all these children go through all this and now they somewhere you know with very cruel hands that you never know how they are going to be we obligate to take any suggested we can't miss any agreement that is coming on I think all nations make effort big effort to make it to make it happen and it will be disaster if we miss it, disaster because first we are parents we don't have power anymore I'm sure children must, it's not the out of this game, it's time out the out of this game, they must be home they must be with their mother with their family in their own bed and they must get out of that and if we miss this time I think I will miss my hope I won't have hope anymore and of course the children must be the priority yes, yes but we are going to fight for all of them and they will come it's like you open a window, you open a door and then slowly, slowly everybody will come by agreement you know many agreement we have prisoners we can make exchanging and we must be obligated for these children and babies because they won't survive for long time it's take time or these negotiations take time there's a report just come out on Reuters and it says that an official briefed with negotiations says that Qatari mediators are trying to get a deal that would include the release of around 50, 5-0 civilian hostages from Gaza in exchange for a three day ceasefire this is unconfirmed, this is on the Reuters news agency ok you see as long as the time is passed the price is going up because before it was 100 then it went to 80 now it's 50 so tomorrow it can be 2 or 10 the price is going up all the time we don't have this time we have to take what they give we have to do the deal now immediately yesterday we must do it and to save we say in Hebrew when you save one one soul one soul it's like you save the whole world we have a sentence like that in Hebrew well I've spoken to some military sorry to interrupt you I've spoken to some military experts people from the Mossad, people like that they say that the best way to get the hostages back is to put pressure on Hamas because they are under a lot of pressure right now I mean do you feel like the government is listening to you do you feel like the negotiators are listening to you listen I'm not a political woman and I'm not army woman and I don't want to be I can't give you you know I just can hope and I believe I want to believe they behave wisely and with good judgment I don't believe in power you know in army act I don't believe that but we have the situations we have it's very delicate and very complicated because our enemy is very very tough is very cruel and any negotiation with him is not easy so you know I have to trust I have to trust they doing the best I have to trust they making a good judgment I think we you know it's like 40 days 40 days already our children been abonded and they obligate to bring them back home it's not me I can't say how in the way I can say one thing as a mom they must they must bring them home immediately whatever it take yeah of course nothing otherwise if they don't do it they sacrifice them you understand it's very hard for me to use this word even but they sacrifice them and it mustn't happen because otherwise Israel won't be same ever ever again because they obligate to their citizens morally politically they obligate to their citizens before anything else before any war before anything else so they have to do their best and they mustn't miss this time big opportunity window will be open you see Biden is coming and Qatar and Egypt and everybody involved and I hope they really I hope it's become true I hope, I don't want you know it I hope so as well the whole country hopes so I hope so much that your little boy Erez and your daughter Shachar and your husband I hope they will back with you soon where they belong and I'm very sorry this has happened to you no one should have to suffer this you're very brave Hadas, thank you for talking to us Hadas Calderon thank you very much well many of the families of the hostages are marching today from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem to demand the immediate release of their loved ones Yara Goldman is a representative of the hostages forum Headquarters and you were just listening to that I think Yara we were talking to Hadas a mother who's had her children rich from her why are you marching today what is the message that you want to get across the message that I want to get across it's not just a matter of biology it doesn't matter if my biological sister or mother or grandmother is here and off the depth we're all standing together in this so it's it's the problem of Israel and not just of a few families of 240 people there does seem to be a bit of a divide between those who I mean everybody wants the hostages back obviously but there are some who think that there needs to be a deal and that will necessitate a ceasefire which will enable Hamas to rearm and gain a military advantage and those who say no we have to keep putting the pressure on them and we will get the hostages back say again I'm sorry I couldn't hear you well there are those who say there will have to be some kind of ceasefire as part of a deal with Hamas and there are others who say no we need to keep the military pressure on them and we will get the hostages back ourselves yeah well we do have well when you have such a big amount of so many people then obviously the opinions vary but we all agree on one thing that we need to have to do whatever it takes to bring the hostages here now if it means ceasefire I mean I support the ceasefire me personally I'm not talking now as Yara from the headquarters I believe that we need a ceasefire we need and which which is bilateral by the way because it always seems on the news like it's up to Israel to stop shooting but no the shooting has started and still is coming from Gaza towards us as well and I think we need to do what needs to be done in order to bring those people home are the families getting enough support and enough information from the government not from the government I fear to say but they do get it from the civilians in the last 40 days we've seen an amazing arrangement of fully improvised by civilians who care for these people and we've been doing everything starting from financial support to psychological support we've been doing our best to give them all they need and I mean this is just one example of how the country is really united and come together I mean everyone in Israel is feeling the pain of the hostages families right now and everybody just wants one thing for them to come home yeah yeah absolutely and it's sad that such a sad event had to happen in order to put us all together but I am hoping that this and soon and that we will emerge as a better society from this horrible catastrophe I'll mention that, alright yeah thank you very much good luck with the march yeah I'll go over there thank you bye bye alright let's get an update on what's going on in the north of israel now our correspondent p.s. tekelback is at the Lebanese border she's with us now apologies Pierre is in the south of Israel with what is going on in southern Israel and in Gaza Pierre well I'm going to show you what's going on here right now with Adam Schumann our cameraman you can see that of the northern sector of the Gaza Strip is going on relentlessly that's because although the IDF has full control over the northern part of the Gaza Strip there are still terror pockets to be cleansed and hence you can see maybe tunnels maybe weapons depot maybe a terror squad that is hiding in one of the buildings this is what has been going on relentlessly since this morning and the days before what's going on in Shifa has nothing to do with what's going on here in Shifa this is a silk glove treatment I would say but here it's much harsher also because a major part of the population of the civilian population has been already moving for the past two weeks through the humanitarian corridors they opened daily at the beginning four hours and now for seven hours in a row although Palestinians are reporting that these are killing fields trying to prevent these people from detaching themselves of their task or status of being human shields for Hamas now there's another element which I haven't spoken about earlier is the issue of the fuel this time trucks carrying 23,000 liters of fuel are going to transfer to the UNRWA installations in the southern Gaza Strip UNRWA is the UN welfare agency for the refugees of 1948 49 and their descendants four generations of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip that have a status of refugee and UNRWA although their installations have proven to be also harboring Hamas terrorists have set up tents camps for those displaced Palestinians fleeing the battle ground in the northern sector behind me the 23,000 liters of fuel is for the first time the Israeli the Israel has agreed for the first time to transfer this fuel to UNRWA and the US pressure the plan is that after 48 hours those reserves of fuel will expire and thus there will be a need for an additional maybe 22, 24, 23 thousand liters of fuel every 48 hours the humanitarian predicament in the southern Gaza Strip is becoming dire and dire once the population in the northern Gaza Strip displace itself from the battle ground and moves to those tent camps there is really need for fuel now that fuel is being monitored and inspected and by the way the Israeli media is reporting that this fuel has nothing to do with the plight of the hostages which is being negotiated right now we have had reports thank you Pierre, Pierre Clashenda we have had reports in the last hour from the Reuters news agency that there might be some negotiation underway to free 50 50 of the hostages in return for a 2 to 3 day ceasefire we'll keep an eye on that and bring you any updates when we get them but let's head back to the north of Israel at the Lebanese border with this report you are right Laura in the communities of Kirchmana and Margaleot sirens were triggered within the last recent minutes that coinciding with rocket alerts also going on in Ashkelon in the south and a bit after that also red alert going off in the community of Miskav now we are speaking about these 3 localities which are all located in the upper Galilee region in the very eastern part very very close we are speaking about areas that have already been widely evacuated but we have been to Kirchmana only yesterday and you do still see that some of those residents there remain but these communities, these are locations that have gotten under constant anti-tank missile fire but also rocket fire coming from southern Lebanon only 2 weeks ago 12 rockets were fired onto the city of Kirchmana he's about to claim responsibility for that those rockets causing damage to infrastructure there are no casualties how volatile the situation is because in the last 24 hours there were no reports of major events here in the north there were reports of anti-tank missiles being launched towards Israeli communities but that has very much become the routine here in the north but now that these red alert sirens were triggered indicating that there might have been rockets coming from southern Lebanon there are no details in terms of what has happened there exactly as of now because again these sirens just went off a couple of minutes ago that just really shows you how volatile and how dangerous the situation is and also exactly why these very northern communities have already been widely evacuated Laura alright Pia, thank you very much indeed so alright well one of the consequences of the terrorist attacks of October 7th and the subsequent military operation in Gaza is that thousands of people have been left with disabilities we've got more in this report on how they've been taking care of in Israel and other things in Israeli society one of them is the treatment of the disabled Idan Kleyman, the chairman of the handicapped IDF veterans organization says that the organization is ready to accept thousands of new wounded people we assume that the number of IDF disabled people will be in the same proportion that in the 1973 Yom Kippur war we are ready to treat around 10,000 IDF wounded we already know about around 2,000 physical injuries expect up to 10,000 people to suffer from PTSD in the past we had 3 degrees of preparation short term, medium term and long term today we've moved everything to the short term here in the handicapped IDF veterans center in Tel Aviv a new call center was recently opened dozens of volunteers call the disabled soldiers and take care of their needs we call people, see what hurts them we try to help them health problem or anything else, we try to help them one of the issues that distinguishes this current crisis from previous ones is the high number of people suffering from post traumatic syndrome disorder Kleyman says that if in the past the recognition of mental disability was a long process things are now changing in the past the authorities waited until the war was over and then started to treat the wounded today we treat the wounded immediately and the person who is wounded is being treated right now there is a new understanding that the sooner you treat PTSD the better are the chances that the rehabilitation will be shorter and better we cannot totally cure PTSD but we can teach the soldier how to deal with it and to live a normal life Kleyman says that new facilities for disabled IDF veterans are being built now and for the first time members of the security squads IDF and security forces veterans but he still has some worries I'm concerned about the low number of people who work in the rehabilitation unit the Ministry of Defense today there are around 200 workers who work directly with the disabled I think we need to have around 300-400 people there we are working together with the Ministry of Defense the Ministry of Finance and other ministries on that issue en situación touring the center brings a sense of hope and compassion in this dark time for Israeli society just to bring you up to date with the very latest this hour according to the Reuters news agency Qatari officials are trying to secure a deal to release 50 of the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire according to this Reuters report Hamas has agreed to the general outline of the deal but Israel has not yet been negotiated there have been several of these unconfirmed reports about potential hostage release deals so we will keep an update on that meanwhile in Gaza the IDF continues a limited operation inside the Shifa hospital which has been identified as a Hamas command center and stay with us Hele Hockenberg is with you next you'll have all the very latest details on this day 40 of Israel's war with Hamas and all the war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well this special broadcast here on 924 news as we continue our rolling coverage day 40 of the war here in Israel now what goes in and what goes out IDF forces began a surgical operation at the Shifa hospital in the Gaza Strip where right underneath one of the main Hamas headquarters the forces going room by room Israeli soldiers armed with medical supplies and Arabic speaking doctors to make sure the remaining patients are getting what they need now what goes out lots and lots and lots of ammunition bombs and other terror infrastructure stored there by Hamas Washington backing Israel's careful action saying they obtained themselves evidence Hamas using the hospital compound for its terror operations here's IDF spokesperson Daniel Agari IDF forces are carrying out a precise and targeted operation against Hamas in a specified area in the Shifa hospital the IDF is conducting a ground operation in Gaza to defeat Hamas and rescue our hostages Israel is at war with Hamas not with the civilians in Gaza the IDF forces include medical teams and Arabic speakers who have undergone specified training to prepare for this complex and sensitive environment with the intent that no harm is caused to the civilians being used by Hamas as human shields yes and in the past minute read Sirenol or it's going off in Israel's communities yet again after some lull of several hours read alerts being heard again both in the north and in the south but before we go to the field to the ground we're joined here in Syria by I-24 New Senior Diplomatic Correspondent Owen Alterman for this broadcast thank you very much for joining us and also joining us Colonel Dr. Moshe Elda former coordinator to Palestinian Authority and Security Issues at the IDF Dr. Elda thank you very much for joining us so we appreciate your time sir well let's cut to the chase it's a complex operation at the Shifa Hospital terror compound what is the main objective it is believed to be one of the main intersections of the tunnels underneath there's obviously lots of ammunition there and also the humanitarian situation is not making things easier I guess you you name it a surgical operation and it sounds good in a hospital they were trying I guess the troops to find first of all kidnapped or hostages they were trying to find also Hamas people especially from the Nukba to intelligence information they were supposed to hide there maybe they just were able to get out but at least it isn't over yet so we might hear about people who are there from their troops number 3 to show to the world which is not of less importance to show to the world what's going on down there in a hospital the legs of doctors and patients and incubators and surgical operations you find ammunition guns explosive and this is absolutely unbelievable in terms of every so called red line so they pass all red lines so we are I guess Israel would like to show to the world exactly what's going on in Shefa Hospital down there yes of course after the evidence that it were shown to the world earlier this week what happening in the underneath there T.C. hospital what is believed to be happening underneath the Shefa Hospital is of a much larger scope and yet doctor once it's done not that we're there yet it will take time once it's done what is next I'm facing the IDF of whether to keep the forces in Gaza City and also what to do with the southern part of the Gaza Strip we've been focusing naturally on the north but the south is challenging on its own Ellie I guess that the operation in the southern part has already begun we heard in the last couple of days that the IDF was there in terms of some of those bombings special units came inside Hamilnes and there a lot to see what's going on in some of those centers right it's true the volume of work wasn't exactly as in the north but we still have time we still have at least I guess two to three weeks maybe a month to complete this mission and I believe that those who wouldn't be fine I mean in terms of Hamas leaders in the north would be fine in the south and centers that they were able to carry out and stay outside the area they are in the south so maybe the south will see the highlight of this operation in the next couple of days Yes and Dr. Elad I would like to pose perhaps a challenging question here we're seeing lots of tactical achievements no doubt about that but Dr. Elad do they accumulate to a strategic one Oh yeah I guess that for the first time ever the IDF has taken into consideration a full plan of coordination between land, air and sea Number two this is the first time that the way we entered Gaza and we conquered Gaza and we are approaching to every single center of Hamas is completely different from what was in the past Number three when this will be over and they will have to count their dead bodies and they will have to see what was going on and all the world would be able to see that then you would be able to assess and first of all I would appreciate what and how this plan works very well Colonel Dr. Elad Thank you very much sir for your time for your insight we appreciate it Thank you and we want to head now to the ground Well, Gaza border up here in the past several minutes Red Alerts being heard down south what can you tell us Well, there were three interceptions just over our head just five minutes ago, barely five minutes ago and at the same time the IDF is bounding the northern sector of the Gaza Strip as you can see here just barely two kilometers away from where we are and it's really an area which is on the border between Israel and the Gaza Strip so of course there is always the presumption that it could be you know a squad a terror squad trying to infiltrate into Israeli territory because it's so close to the border but we don't know exactly we know that there's been 18 hours of rocket fire lull between yesterday and this afternoon the rocket fire started at 11 at 1pm local time and now a new rocket alert on Zderot you can see this sector is pretty bombed Adam Schulman our cameraman can maybe pan over the whole sector and you might see that there are other locations where smoke is billowing from the bombing of the artillery of the air force and of the tanks this is the situation here now further south to the left of your screen is the Shifa hospital in the northern sector of the Gaza city and there it's not at all the same treatment it's a silk glove treatment I would say because there is absolutely no firefights inside the building that has been invested by the Israeli army there is no bombing of the hospital and that goes along the warning of the US administration no bombing on the hospital no firefights inside and the IDF is working thoroughly inside that particular building and security sources that they found evidence that Hamas had command an operational center in Shifa hospital Hamas weapons they found infrastructure some of it will be divulged to the public later on maybe tonight during the briefing of Rear Admiral Daniel Agari the IDF spokesperson and at the same time there is some sort of understanding that this whole negotiation over Shifa hospital is going to take time it's going to take time because this is a humanitarian facility because if there is a humanitarian disaster in the hospital that would probably bring about a lot of international pressure to stop the war full stop and Israel of course isn't interested since the order of mission is to dismantle Hamas so it's going to take time you have more than 10 buildings inside that hospital on 22 acres of land plus annexes and the real focus because there is no trace of the hostages the real focus will be the network of tunnels underneath the hospital because part of what is believed to be found underneath the hospital is perhaps a main intersection tunnels who will get more information on that one study spokesperson reveals information later on that tonight before we let you go briefly there were no high expectations to begin with but it seems that even if they were there at earlier stage of the war there are no Israeli hostages at the Shifa hospital now it seems there is no traces of the hostages right now and it's understandable the Israeli forces defense forces have encircled the hospital already last week they conducted negotiations with the management of the hospital there was ample time for the terrorists to funnel away the hostages that were beneath the hospital and to put them in other places in the southern Gaza Strip so absolutely at this point no trace of hostages and yet maybe they'll find evidence that the hostages were kept there yes so perhaps another sign of life for a trace of what been happening with those 239 hostages for 40 days now in Hamas captivity I-24 news correspondent Pierre Kluchendlour thank you very much for this and war cabinet member earlier today in a clear message to the fleeing Hamas leaders first and foremost of course Yahya Sinwar we're on our way those who thought they will break us up will break Hamas every time we prove our strength Sinwar and Hamas continue to fall apart in this war the IDF and the security forces are proving how determined we are we will reach wherever necessary as well in Gaza and across the world we will reach the heads of Hamas as we reach their control centres what we do effectively in the south we can do even better in the north if needed and from south we're moving now to the north I-24 news correspondent Pierre Kluchendlour standing by the way the I-24 news team Pierre thank you very much for joining us Israeli leaders are saying that the level of defeat or rather the level of success will have a direct impact on what is happening on the northern front exactly well the northern front is already a very active front and keep in mind that we are speaking about dozens of communities that were already evacuated as the situation is and continues to be very tense and very volatile but also keep in mind that the threat that Hezbollah poses sitting there on the Israel-Lebanon border does not only exist since this current Israel-Gaza war but also way before and the fear is of course more ends and once maybe the skirmishes will lessen a bit after this war the threat will still be the same and we know that many of those thousands of people that have been evacuated from the north are fearful to go back without any actual action being taken against Hezbollah and also the other Iranian proxies that are active very close to the Israel-Lebanon border and we get an impression of that only an hour ago where rocket alert sirens were triggered in three communities in the eastern part of the upper Galilee region in the Kiryat Shmonar which comes after 24 hours of relative calm so yesterday there was a number of motor shells and anti-tank missiles launched which is the routine here in these days at the northern border but these rocket sirens being triggered there we did not see any statement coming from the Israeli army in terms of what exactly has been launched from southern Lebanon towards these communities yet but we are hearing from according to reports from Lebanon that either 20 rockets or anti-tank missiles were launched in these communities and these communities have really gotten under constant fire from southern Lebanon both anti-tank missiles and rockets only the city of Kiryat Shmonar which is the biggest city in that area 20,000 residents, the vast majority of them have left that town has gotten under rocket fire two weeks ago more or less where 12 rockets also impacted in the city now we also got a report that one rocket impacted in an area next to that city but that comes also after we know that the Israeli army has been striking targets in southern Lebanon throughout the day and this just really gives an impression of how attentive this area is and also how volatile Right, right, more volatile than ever before many war already underway to an extent on the northern front, anti-24 news correspondent Piaz Zakobar, thank you very much for this back here in studio with our anti-24 news senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Alterman as we discussed the global response to what we're seeing today at the Shifa Hospital in the Gaza Strip Owen, this hour reports once again reports of this emerging potential pending hostage deal this time quoting Qatari officials suggesting 50 Israeli hostages released for a 3-day pause in the fighting or ceasefire 50 women and children as I understand it who would be released of the 240 total who are held in the Gaza Strip of course that includes men as well would be released in exchange for a 3-day pause or ceasefire however you choose to term it and the release of children or minors we should say because presumably it could include teenagers 17-year-olds right who are Palestinians held in Israeli prisons presumably because they committed crimes engage in terrorism whatever the case may be that an undefined number of them would be released as well these are the reports that are out that the Qatari's have put forward again reported by Reuters Israeli media reporting that the Israel side this is not an offer Israel is willing to accept that Israel wants to see a larger deal with a larger number of hostages released and so this wouldn't meet Israel's requirements but again of course the talks are ongoing Israel is responding to this with its own bid I think shows us that the gap between the two sides positions presumably continues to narrow and that we seem to be again the operative word seem to be headed towards some kind of a deal as we speak yet another round of red siren alerts being heard down south in the southern communities while the idea of operation on the ground in the Gaza Strip continues which comes to show that Hamas still has the ability to launch a rocket and to commit other terror activities from the strip from presumably the southern part of the strip and Owen obviously what is happening today at the Shefa hospital terror compound is raising a whole lot of international reactions I cannot say that they come as a surprise and yet Trudeau of Canada the Spaniards are commenting as well it seems that at least among some western elements the tune is getting harsher right but we have to wait until what we see on the other side of this look this is potentially always dangerous to say this in the middle of a war but this would seem to be the climax of the war the climax of the fighting obviously from a military sense first and foremost the taking of the other side's military command center it's Pentagon to use the Israeli version is obviously a kind of climax of course it just so happens that the other side's military command center is in the basement of the largest hospital in the Gaza Strip and we all know the complexities that that presents to the Israeli operation so that's number one, number two it's a climax because of the regional situation we heard from Benny Gantz to Hezbollah and beyond as Gantz put it there are no refuge cities there are no refuge homes to use that translation there's no place that the Israeli military won't go if it's a legitimate military target even if the other side has taken a hospital and turned it into a legitimate military target international law then allows Israel to act against that target of course taken into account all the other provisions under international law that Israel needs to respect so it's important for the regional situation and as for the international situation Ellie, there's another way to look at I want to read out to our viewers something that's in the New York Times report unquote from the New York Times should the Israeli military find a Hamas compound at the hospital and broadcast convincing evidence of the building's dual use it could change the global conversation about its operation Ellie, there's a working assumption here in Israel up to and including the foreign minister himself por lasas going down I've always said the pressure might at some point level off this is an indication of that again after an operation like this that the tide could maybe not turn but at least ebb well we'll wait and see to be continued that's for sure tonight 24 news senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Altman thank you very much for this and another update this time up north another round of red siren alerts going off in the upper Galilee area isbala and the rest so the rest the Houthis from Yemen showing demonstrating the capacity and intent to target Israel's southern cities with long-range attacks with more here's our correspondent Robert Swift Yemen's Houthis attacked Israel on Tuesday targeting the southern city of Elat with surface-to-surface missiles not for the first time with the help of Allah the Almighty the forces have launched ballistic missiles at various targets of the Israeli enemy in the occupied Palestinian territories including targets in Elat it has used drones and missiles to target Israel as an act of support to Hamas with its weapons falling short and reportedly landing in Egypt and Jordan at times a Shiite organization with Yemen's Houthi tribe at its core it is backed and armed by Iran and at times it has fought for control of Yemen it is designated as a terrorist organization in Saudi Arabia the UAE and Malaysia but not in the US which temporarily labeled it as such for a month in 2021 on top of the threat of long-range attacks against Israeli cities the Houthis are threatening Israeli shipping in the Red Sea particularly in Babel Manda in its adjacent Yemeni territorial waters our eyes are constantly monitoring for Israeli ships which rely on evasion and disguise in their movements not daring to raise the Israeli flag the Houthis have form in attacking ships Yemen's strategic location offering them ample targets in the past they have struck Saudi Navy ships and commercial cargo vessels for this reason deploying an aircraft carrier to the Red Sea enhancing air defenses of Israel's south coast and beefing up deterrence a move that could either dampen down the Houthi threat or risk tipping Israel's war into a wider regional conflict Yes, and last night Washington was painted blue and white nearly 300,000 people gathered in the US capital to margin solidarity with Israel showing the support of Israel and the Jewish community and the United States still a widespread consensus from both sides of the political aisle and yet there are still radical voices loud ones that are twisting reality to fit their twisted views and we want to welcome now here in studio John Daniel Hury and Bar Suiza who just came back from the US from this tour organized by DiploCat DiploAct rather, yeah makes more sense of course a week-long delegation that including stops and perhaps the what became the spearhead of anti-Israeli prohoma sentiment nowadays elite universities Bar Jonathan, thank you very much for joining us and both of you embarked on this delegation armed with extra baggage let's put it that way Bar you lost some friends at the music festival on October 7th yeah, actually this is not our first delegation we are an NGO that it's called DiploAct we usually train students around universities in Israel and then we go abroad to universities around the US and speak about the Israeli story and this time we came up to speak about the Israeli and their stories and we shared our personal stories of our loved ones that are gone and I share the story of my friend Nathan Haia Zulai who was murdered in the Nova Festival party and he went to celebrate life and his life ended at that party and to speak about the personal stories and those names behind those numbers was emotional for me but I felt that this is the story that needs to be spread because when you speak about emotions people tend to remember it more and do not see you as this country Israel rather than individuals who lives here and have a baggage and have normal life and people who went to celebrate life and did not come back and it was hard but I felt like it was the right approach those days in campuses in particularly yeah and you were there on a mission in their names too, not just on your behalf and Jonathan your personal background might catch especially those in those elite universities in the states that have such a solid perception on what is happening in your unique background perhaps shaking their solid perception to begin with even before the conversation begins yeah I think this is something that is super crucial to put out their Israeli stories like Bar mentioned before and the non-Jewish citizens of Israel are an essential part of the Israeli society and this is a story that needs to be told that is not really shared around the world and me being a Christian both also with the Lebanese background part of the LGBTQ plus community and Israeli, this is something that brings a different side more you can say those who claim to be the most humanitarian people across the world that are supporting Hamas this is at the end of the day the image that they need to put in their mind to Hamas at the end of the day they target everyone as we saw at the party and as we saw what happened in the south of Israel and I think coming there and kind of ripping off the carpet from beneath their really well settled feats kind of shaking them and this is the stories that we need to bring up this is the stories that we need to talk about and this is kind of the way to kind of take it out the Israeli, Israel against the Palestinians it's now Hamas against the Israelis and this is something that we need to kind of focus on Yes, absolutely and unfortunately we don't have much time but what caught you perhaps by surprise when encountering those students probably your age again thinking of themselves as liberals and believe in human rights and human freedom etc. Justly tell them guys you got it all wrong Jonathan Yeah, this is going to yet again to kind of show them the real story of what's happening here and the focus that Bar talked about mentioning those names of the people who were killed at the party who were slaughtered and the 1,400 people and 242 people that are now in Gaza to bringing their names and their stories kind of puts a human side to it and we saw that we are these monsters and now we're kind of bringing them up to this showing them what happened and it kind of brings more of an emotional thing because it's not just a video online it's more of a personal touch a personal someone that they can actually talk to People are more respectful of our stories and they ask questions about our friends and about our feelings we met one of the students who studies in NYU and she said none of my American friends have ever asked me are you okay? I know that your family is in Israel I know what you're going through and she said all of a sudden I see is that I don't really have friends anymore and coming there and sharing those stories I think people saw us differently in a different light because usually when we go they saw people in other campuses I've been treated horribly with a lot of anti-semitism and all of a sudden I've been treated differently well unfortunately yet another battleground of this overall war Jonathan Elchory, Bar Suiza thank you very much for sharing your stories with us and well done on your work on the field this is it from us for now but we'll be back at the top of the hour with all the latest day 40 of the war here in Israel Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well welcome to the special broadcast here on I-24 news as we continue our ruling coverage day 40 of the war here in Israel now what goes in and what goes out IDF forces began a surgical operation at the Shifa hospital in the Gaza Strip where right underneath one of the main Hamas headquarters the forces going room by room Israeli soldiers armed with medical supplies and Arabic speaking doctors to make sure the remaining patients are getting what they need now what goes out lots and lots and lots of ammunition bombs and other terror infrastructure stored there by Hamas, Washington backing Israel's careful action they obtained themselves evidence Hamas is using the hospital compound for its terror operations here's IDF spokesperson Daniel Agari IDF forces are carrying out a precise and targeted operation against Hamas in a specified area in the Shifa hospital the IDF is conducting a ground operation in Gaza to defeat Hamas and rescue our hostages Israel is at war with Hamas not with the civilians in Gaza the IDF forces include medical teams and Arabic speakers who have undergone specified training to prepare for this complex and sensitive environment with the intent that no harm is caused to the civilians being used by Hamas as human shields yes and in the past minute we've read siren alerts going off in Israel's southern communities yet again after some lull of several hours we've read alerts being heard again both in the north and in the south but before we go to the field to the ground we're joined here in studio by I-24 new senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Alterman for this broadcast thank you very much for joining us we appreciate your time sir well let's cut to the chase it's a complex operation at the Shifa hospital slash terror compound what is the main objective it is believed to be one of the main intersections of the tunnels underneath there's obviously lots of ammunition there and also the humanitarian there's a lot of ammunition there's a lot of ammunition there's a lot of ammunition there's a lot of ammunition there and also the humanitarian situation that is not making things easier I guess you you name it a surgical operation and it sounds good in a hospital they were trying I guess the troops to find first of all kidnapped or hostages they were trying to find also Hamas people especially from the according to intelligence information they were supposed to hide there maybe they just were able to get out but at least it isn't over yet so we might hear about people who are there from their troops number three to show to the world which is not of less importance to show to the world what's going on down there so God under the legs of doctors and patients and incubators and surgical operations you find ammunition guns explosives and this is absolutely unbelievable in terms of every so-called red line so they pass all red lines so we are yes Israel would like to show to the world exactly what's going on in Shefa hospital down there yes of course after the evidence that it were shown to the world earlier this week what's happening in the underneath there T.C. hospital what is believed to be happening underneath the Shefa hospital is of a much larger scope and yet Dr. Elad once it's done what is next there is a dilemma facing the IDF of whether to keep the forces in Gaza City and also what to do with the southern part of the Gaza Strip we've been focusing naturally on the north but the south is challenging on its own I guess that the operation in the southern part has already begun we heard in the last couple of days that IDF was there in terms of some of those bombings special units who came inside Hamilnes and they are about to see what's going on in some of those centers right it's true the volume of work wasn't exactly as in the north but we still have time we still have at least I guess 2 to 3 weeks maybe a month to complete this mission and I believe that those who won't be fine I mean in terms of Hamas leaders in the north would be fine in the south and centers that they were able to carry out and stay you know outside the area they are in the south so maybe the south will see the highlight of this operation in the next couple of days and Dr. Elad I would like to pose perhaps a challenging question here we're seeing lots of tactical achievements no doubt about that but Dr. Elad do they accumulate to a strategic one oh yeah I guess that for the first time ever the IDF has taken into consideration a full plan which is first of all coordination on cooperation between land, air and sea no 2 this is the first time that the way we entered Gaza and we conquered Gaza and we are approaching to every single center of Hamas is completely different from what was in the past no 3 when this will be over and they will have to count their dead bodies and they will have to see what was going on and all the world will be able to see that then you'll be able to assess and first of all and appreciate what and how this plan work very well Colonel Dr. Elad thank you very much sir for your time for your insight we appreciate it thank you and we want to head now to the ground Gaza border appear in the past several minutes being heard down south what can you tell us well there were 3 interceptions just over our head just 5 minutes ago barely 5 minutes ago and at the same time the IDF is pounding the northern sector of the Gaza Strip as you can see here just where we are and it's really an area which is on the border between Israel and the Gaza Strip so of course there is always the presumption that it could be you know a squad a terror squad trying to infiltrate into Israeli territory because it's so close to the border but we don't know exactly we know that there's been a between yesterday and this afternoon the rocket fire started at 11 at 1pm local time and now a new rocket alert on Sderot you can see this sector is pretty bombed Adam Schulman our cameraman can maybe pan over the whole sector and you might see that there are other locations where smoke is billowing from the bombing of the artillery of the air force and of the tanks this is the situation here now further south to the left of your screen is the Shifa Hospital in the northern sector of the Gaza City and there it's not at all the same treatment it's silk glove treatment because there is absolutely no fire fights inside the building that has been invested by the Israeli army there is no bombing of the hospital and that goes along the warning of the US administration no bombing on the hospital no fire fights inside and the IDF is working thoroughly inside that particular building and security source says that they found evidence that Hamas had command an operational center in Shifa Hospital they amassed weapons they found infrastructure some of it will be divulged to the public later on maybe tonight during the briefing of Rear Admiral Daniel Agari the IDF spokesperson and at the same time there is some sort of understanding that this whole operation over Shifa Hospital is going to take time it's going to take time because this is a humanitarian facility because if there is a humanitarian disaster in the hospital that would probably bring about a lot of international pressure to stop the war full stop and Israel of course isn't interested since the order of mission is to dismantle Hamas y so it's going to take time you have more than 10 buildings inside that hospital on 22 acres of land plus annexes and the real focus because there is no trace of the hostages the real focus will be the network of tunnels underneath the hospital because part of what is believed to be found underneath the hospital is perhaps a main intersection of all those tunnels that perhaps who will get more information on that one study spokesperson reveals information later on that tonight here before we I'll let you go briefly there were no high expectations to begin with but it seems that even if they were there earlier stage of the war there are no Israeli hostages at the Shifa Hospital now it seems there is no traces of the hostages right now and it's understandable the Israeli forces defense forces have encircled the hospital already last week they conducted negotiations with the management of the hospital there was ample time for the terrorists to funnel away the hostages that were beneath the hospital and to put them in other places in the southern Gaza Strip so absolutely at this point no trace of hostages and yet maybe they'll find evidence that the hostages were kept there perhaps another sign of life for a trace of what's been happening with those 239 hostages for 40 days now in homosceptivity I-24 News Correspondents thank you very much for this and war cabinet member Benny Gantz earlier today in a clear message to the fleeing Hamas leaders first and foremost of course Yahya Sinwar were on our way those who thought they will break us up will break Hamas every time we prove our strength Sinwar and Hamas continue to fall apart in this war the IDF and the security forces are proving how determined we are we will reach wherever necessary to eliminate the murderers of children above and below ground in Gaza and across the world we will reach the heads of Hamas as we reach their control centres what we do effectively in the south we can do even better in the north if needed and from south we are moving now to the north I-24 News Correspondents thank you very much for joining us Israeli leaders are saying that the level of defeat or rather the level of success in the south will have a direct impact on what is happening on the northern front exactly well the northern front is already a very active front and keep in mind that we are speaking about dozens of communities that were already evacuated as the situation is and continues to be very tense and very volatile but also keep in mind that the threat that Hezbollah poses sitting there on the Israel-Lebanon border no exists since this current Israel-Gaza war but also way before and the fear is of course that once this war ends and once maybe the skirmishes will lessen a bit after this war the threat will still be the same and we know that many of those thousands of people that have been evacuated from the north are fearful to go back without any actual action being taken against Hezbollah and also the other Iranian proxies that are there active very close to the Israel-Lebanon border and we get an impression of that only an hour ago there were three communities in the eastern part of the Upper Galilee region Miskav-Amar Galliot in the Kiryat Shmona which comes after 24 hours of relative calm so yesterday there was a number of motor shells and anti-tank missiles launched which is the routine here in these days at the northern border but these rocket sirens being triggered there we did not see any statement coming from the Israeli army in terms of what exactly has been launched from southern Lebanon towards these communities yet but we are hearing from according to reports from Lebanon that either 20 rockets or anti-tank missiles were launched towards these communities and these communities have really gotten under constant fire from southern Lebanon both anti-tank missiles and rockets only the city of Kiryat Shmona which is the biggest city in that area 20,000 residents, the vast majority of them have left that town has gotten under rocket fire two weeks ago more or less where 12 rockets also impacted in the city now we also got a report that has also impacted in an area next to that city we did not receive any reports in terms of casualties yet but that comes also after we know that the Israeli army has been striking targets in southern Lebanon throughout the day and this just really gives an impression of how tenacious this area is and also how volatile right, right, more volatile than ever before a many war already underway to an extent on the northern front at 24 news correspond thank you very much for this video with our I-24 News a senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Alterman before we discuss the global response to what we're seeing today at the Shifa Hospital in the Gaza Strip Owen, this hour reports once again reports of this emerging potential pending hostage deal this time quoting Qatari officials suggesting 50 Israeli hostages released or a 3 day pause into fighting or ceasefire 50 women and children as I understand it who would be released of the 240 total who are held in the Gaza Strip of course that includes men as well would be released in exchange for a 3 day pause or ceasefire however you choose to term it and the release of children or minors we should say because presumably could include teenagers held in Israeli prisons presumably because they committed crimes or conducted those casual stabbing attacks in Jerusalem whatever the case may be that an undefined number of them would be released as well these are the reports that are out that the Qatari's have put forward again reported by Reuters Israeli media reporting that the Israel's side this is not an offer Israel's willing to accept pero no se meets Israel's but, again, of course the talks are ongoing and the fact that Israel is responding to this with its own bid I think shows us the gap between the two sides positions presumably continues to narrow and that we seem to be headed towards some kind of deal I want to speak another round of the siren alerts being hurt south in the different communities while the idea of operation on the ground la strip continúa, que viene a mostrar que Hama aún tiene la habilidad de lanzar los rockets y de cometer otras actividades de terror de la strip, presumably de la parte del sur de la strip. Y, Obviamente, lo que está sucediendo hoy en el hospital del chief de terror, es creer un montón de reacciones internacionales. Yo no puedo decir que van a ser sorpresas. And yet, Trudeau of Canada. The Spaniards are commenting as well. It seems that at least among some western elements, the tune is getting harsher. Right, but we have to wait until what we see on the other side of this, Ellie. Look, this is potentially always dangerous to say this in the middle of a war, but this would seem to be the climax of the war, right? The climax of the fighting, right? Obviously, from a military sense, first and foremost, the taking of the other side's military command center, it's Pentagon, it's Kira, to use the Israeli version, is obviously a kind of climax, right? Of course, it just so happens that the other side's military command center is in the basement of the largest hospital in the Gaza strip, and we all know the complexities that that presents to the Israeli operations. So that's number one, number two, it's a climax because of the regional situation. We heard from Benny Gantz, the message this sends to Hezbollah and beyond, as Gantz put it. There are no refuge cities, there are no refuge homes to use that translation, right? There's no place that the Israeli military won't go if it's a legitimate military target, even if the other side has taken a hospital and turned it into a legitimate military target. International law then allows Israel to act against that target. Of course, taken into account all the other provisions under international law that Israel needs to respect. So it's important for the regional situation, and as for the international situation, Ellie, there's another way to look at. I wanted to read out to our viewers something that's in the New York Times report, and she quote from the New York Times. Should the Israeli military find a Hamas compound at the hospital and broadcast convincing evidence of the building's dual use, it could change the global conversation about its operation. Ellie, there's a working assumption here in Israel, up to and including the foreign minister himself, that the hourglass is going down. I've always said the pressure might, at some point, level off. This is an indication of that. Again, after an operation like this, that the tide could maybe not turn, but at least ebb. Well, we'll wait and see, to be continued. That's for certain. 24 News Senior Diplomatic Correspondent, Owen Altman. Thank you very much for this. And another update, this time up north, another round of red sirenalers going off in the upper Galilee area. Owen mentioned Hezbollah and the rest. So the rest, the Houthis from Yemen showing, demonstrating the capacity and intent to target Israel's southern cities with long-range attacks. With more, here's our correspondent, Robert Swift. Yemen's Houthis attacked Israel on Tuesday, targeting the southern city of Elat, with surface-to-surface missiles, not for the first time. With the help of Allah the Almighty, our armed forces have launched ballistic missiles a various targets of the Israeli enemy in the occupied Palestinian territories, including targets in Elat. It has used drones and missiles to target Israel as an act of support to Hamas, with its weapons falling short and reportedly landing in Egypt and Jordan at times. A Shiite organization, with Yemen's Houthi tribe at its core, it is backed and armed by Iran. For around a decade, it has fought for control of Yemen. It is designated as a terrorist organization in Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Malaysia, but not in the U.S., which temporarily labeled it as such for a month in 2021. On top of the threat of long-range attacks against Israeli cities, the Houthis are threatening Israeli shipping. In the Red Sea, particularly in Babelmandab and its adjacent Yemeni territorial waters, our eyes are constantly monitoring for Israeli ships, which rely on evasion and disguise in their movements, not daring to raise the Israeli flag. The Houthis have formed and attacking ships, Yemen's strategic location offering them ample targets. In the past, they have struck Saudi Navy ships and commercial cargo vessels. For this reason, the U.S. is deploying an aircraft carrier to the Red Sea, enhancing air defenses off Israel's south coast and beefing up deterrence, a move that could either dampen down the Houthi threat or risk tipping Israel's war into a wider regional conflict. Yes, and last night in Washington, it was painted blue and white, nearly 300,000 people gathered in the U.S. Capitol to margin solidarity with Israel, showing the support of Israel and the Jewish community in the United States. It's still a wide spread consensus from both sides of the political aisle, and yet there are still radical voices, loud ones, that are twisting reality to fit their twisted views. And we want to welcome now here in studio John Daniel Hury and Bar Suiza, who just came back from the U.S., from this tour organized by Diplocat. Diplocat, rather, yeah, makes more sense, of course. A week-long delegation that including stops in perhaps what became the spearhead of anti-Israeli prohoma sentiment nowadays, elite universities. So, Bar Jonathan, thank you very much for joining us, and both of you embarked on this delegation armed with extra baggage, let's put it that way. Bar, you lost some friends at the Nova Music Festival on October 7th. Yeah, actually, this is not our first delegation. We, our NGO that is called Diplocat, we usually train students around universities in Israel, and then we go abroad to universities around the U.S. and speak about the Israeli story. And this time we came up to speak about the Israeli and their stories. And we shared our personal stories of our loved ones that are gone, and I share the story of my friend whose name is Jonathan Hayaz Ulai, who was murdered in the Nova Festival Party, and he went to celebrate life, and his life ended at that party. And to speak about the personal stories and those names behind those numbers was emotional for me, but I felt that this is the story that needs to be spread, because when you speak about emotions, people tend to remember it more, and do not see you as this country, strong country as Israel, rather than individuals who lives here and have a baggage and have normal life, and people who went to celebrate life and did not come back. And it was hard, but I felt like it was the right approach those days in campuses, in particularly. Yeah, and you were there on a mission in their names too, not just on your behalf. And Jonathan, your personal background might capture, especially those in those elite universities and the states that have such a solid perception on what is happening, your unique background, perhaps shaking their solid perception to begin with, even before the conversation begins. Yeah, I think this is something that is super crucial to put out there the Israeli stories like Barr mentioned before, and the non-Jewish citizens of Israel are an essential part of the Israeli society. And this is a story that needs to be told that is not really shared around the world. And me being a Christian, both also with the Lebanese background, part of the LGBTQ plus community and Israeli, this is something that brings a different side. More you can say, those who claim to be the most humanitarian people across the world that are supporting Hamas, this is at the end of the day, the image that they need to put in their mind when it comes to Hamas, at the end of the day, they target everyone as we saw at the party and as we saw what happened in the south of Israel. And I think coming there and kind of ripping off the carpet from beneath their really well settled feats, kind of shaking them. And this is the stories that we need to bring up. This is the stories that we need to talk about. And this is kind of the way to kind of take it out instead of being the Israeli, Israel against the Palestinians. It's now Hamas against the Israelis, and this is something that we need to kind of focus on. Yes, absolutely. And unfortunately, we don't have much time, but what caught you perhaps by surprise when encountering those students, probably your age, again, thinking of themselves as liberals and believe in human rights and human freedom, etc., etc. And you come there and you essentially tell them guys you got it all wrong. Jonathan. Yeah, this is kind of yet again to kind of show them the real story of what's happening here. And the focus that Bar talked about mentioning those names of the people who were killed at the party who were slaughtered and the 1,400 people and 242 people that are now in Gaza to bringing their names and their stories kind of puts a human side to it. And this is something that didn't happen till today. They always thought that we are these monsters. And now we're kind of bringing them up to this, showing them what happened. And it kind of brings more of an emotional thing because it's not just a video online. It's more of a personal touch, a personal someone that they can actually talk to. It's not an idea of a soldier, but a person like them. People are more respectful of our stories and they ask questions about our friends and about our feelings. We met one of the students who is an American student who studies in NYU. And she said, none of my American friends have ever asked me, are you okay? I know that your family is in Israel. I know what you're going through. And she said all of a sudden, I see that I don't really have friends anymore. And coming there and sharing those stories, I think people saw us differently in a different light. Because usually when we go, they saw people. Because usually, well, my personal experience in other campuses, I've been treated horribly with lots of antisemitism. And all of a sudden I've been treated differently. Yeah, well, unfortunately, yet another battleground of this overall war. Jonathan Eljory, Bar Suiza, thank you very much for sharing your stories with us and well done on your work on the field. This is it from us for now, but we'll be back at the top of the hour with all the latest day 40 of the war here in Israel. Israel is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where we see as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines. But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well. Welcome to the special broadcast here on I-24 News as we continue our rolling coverage on day 40 of the war here in Israel. Now what goes in and what goes out idea forces begin a surgical operation at the Shefa Hospital in the Gaza Strip where right underneath one of the main Hamas headquarters, the forces going room by room, Israeli soldiers armed with medical supplies and Arabic speaking doctors to make sure the remaining patients are getting what they need. Now what goes out lots and lots and lots of ammunition bombs and other terror infrastructure stored there by Hamas, Washington backing Israel's careful action saying they obtain evidence too that Hamas is using the hospital compound for its terror operations. Let's take a listen to what IDFS spokesperson Daniel Higari had to say. IDFS están llevando una operación precisada y targetada contra Hamas en una área especifica en la Shefa Hospital. IDFS está conduciendo una operación en Gaza para derrotar a Hamas y rescatar a nuestros hostes. Israel está en la guerra con Hamas no con los civilianos en Gaza. IDFS incluye equipos médicos y speakers arabes que han subido un entrenamiento específico para preparar para este complexo y sensativo ambiente con el intento que no hará la causa a los civilianos que han sido usados por Hamas como imágenes humanas. Y queremos comenzar este broadcast por ir a la norte de la frontera. IDFS corresponde. Zach Anderson, Israel ha estado en contra con la IDFS. Team there, Zach, muchas gracias por ayudarnos en la pasada. Sirense en las comunidades norte de la frontera y nuevamente en la galería arriba y en este momento esencialmente ISBALA declara responsabilidad para la misal de anti-tank un segundo acto hoy que ISBALA es declarar responsabilidad. Exactamente, esta ha sido la historia de las últimas semanas en Hezbollah y otras facciones en el sur de Lebanon y en las posiciones de Israel a la norte de Israel. Esa es la misma historia de nuevo. Hoy los israelíes el IDFS dicen que han podido detectar lanzas de estas posiciones y continuan a acceder a la originación de estas lanzas. Pero como lo sabemos en esta hora una de las parentes roca o tal vez ATG estirada en Kierat-Shermona no tenemos reportes de inundaciones o si se estiró algo algunas de las imágenes que están viniendo parecen que se han tomado un área abierta en un field así que no se ha estiró a estirar algo. Yo lo voy a voy a subir a la frontera para mostrarle una cosa. Esta es una observación y esta es el sitio que está sucediendo más y más alrededor de la norte de la bordera. Estas observaciones van a ir a diversas cien a cien a a la vía y darle un 360 vía de la territoria instalada con especial high-range cameras que pueden detectar. Esta es un nuevo sitio en los últimos varios días en nuestras caminas de la norte más y más de estos balones han estado volviendo en circunstancias normales la IDF diría que no quiera que te muestran estas estas espacios de equipamiento militar pero debido a nuestra ubicación y cómo es visible a todos en la ronda aquí. Esta es una un sitio que nadie puede ver ahora y es más y más frecuente aquí en el norte. Interesante y Zac, tu sabes, la terminología es es importante a este punto en el tiempo y mientras ambos lados si te puedes estar refusando a usar la termina guerra lo que hemos visto en la frontera en los últimos días parece como una mini-war así que decir lo que he he dicho antes in tres meses si lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que lo que y no hace nada, los líderes israelíos no quieren la frontera para abrir la ronda, se han establecido mucho, muchas veces, y continuan a decir que esto sería un desafío significativo si tienen que luchar en otra frontera. A 24 News corresponde a Zach Anders, el de Israel, pero en el borde. Muchas gracias por esto, mucho más de Zach, por supuesto, por el broadcast de hoy, y de la norte. Heading South, I-24 News corresponde a Mary McAuliffe, with the I-24 News team there, on the ground, Mary, similarly to what we've seen in the north in the past hour, in the south as well, red siren alerts going off in several communities after a certain lull, if you will. What is the current state of affairs now on the ground there? That's right, Ellie, this morning and this afternoon, rocket sirens ringing out in numerous different areas inside these border communities here in southern Israel, but also in Ashkelon, and a report of a hit from a rocket that fell in the area in the middle of the street. We don't have any reports of injuries from any of the rocket sirens or any of the rocket attacks that occurred here earlier today, important also to remember that most of these communities are evacuated, but here in Sterot, which is where we had a rocket alert ringing out just an hour ago, we can feel a lot more people who are on the streets who theoretically are supposed to be evacuated, and most of them it really has been a ghost town for the past few weeks, but now feeling a sense of life still coming back to these towns, all the while these rocket sirens continuing to ring out to send them into these shelters. Yes, and Mary, while the operation in the Galastrip continues in full swing, obviously the epicenter, the chief of hospital, the humanitarian aid keeps on flowing into the Galastrip, not just as part of the soldiers at the chief of hospital, that again, as we mentioned, the opening of this broadcast were armed with doctors and medical supplies, etc., but also the, what we can call the routine, the daily humanitarian aid, which is getting more substantial day in, day out. That's right, so more advances in the humanitarian aid, more progress in these negotiations to allow humanitarian aid, but those on the ground in Gaza still continue to say that it's simply not enough. Many of these hospitals have run out of fuel to operate their generators, so this is the main thing. The IDF, for its part, has said that it tried to facilitate a fuel delivery to the hospital director inside Schiffel Hospital, but that was not actually sexual, saying that it was refused. The Palestinian director on his part saying that they were unable to actually physically access the part where they were supposed to go and pick up this fuel, but we do know today that the IDF said that as it entered the IDF Schiffel, the Schiffel Hospital inside Gaza Strip, the IDF also brought with it a number of different humanitarian supplies, including baby food and incubators as they are trying to help facilitate the removal of those patients who are still inside El Schiffel Hospital. The IDF has been warning for weeks now that El Schiffel Hospital will come under attack by the IDF as it continues to try and root out what it says is terrorist complex underneath this hospital, and that's what they are actively doing as we still speak inside Schiffel Hospital. We're bringing, as you said, Janot just medical and humanitarian supplies, also bringing with it Arabic speakers while they try and assist and do what they can to try and help the patients on the ground there. The Palestinians for their report are reporting just the sounds of constant gun battles heard inside El Schiffel Hospital in the complex area. The IDF is saying that it is not engaging with anybody but Hamas terrorists. Right, and a massive compound, several big buildings there. So several hours into this operation, still underway. I-24 News correspondent Mary McCollum, thank you very much for this. Much more from Mary, of course, later on in today. And joining us now here in studio, Dr. David Shimoni from Commanders for Israel Security. Thank you very much, Dr. Shimoni for joining us. Well, again, several hours of this surgical operation at the Shifa Hospital. Let's try to manage our expectations in terms of what are the objectives of the actions now on the ground and what should we expect at the end of it? How long will it take to begin with, perhaps? Everything should correspond with the two main objects of this war defined by the IDF and by the Israeli government to take out as many of the Hamas abilities that we can and to rescue the hostages. And definitely any action now in the south is related to these two objectives. And I think if you want to compare what's happening at the Shifa Hospital to what happened on October 7th in the south of Israel, where thousands of Hamas members invaded Israel and massacred everybody. When we're operating inside a hospital, we're not acting in the same way. We have to make, yeah, okay. So we're talking about a very delicate, very dangerous. Also politically dangerous because we don't want to hurt doctors and patients and people who are at the hospital. So it's a very, very difficult operation. The intention is, of course, to expose terror, facilities, infrastructure, ammunition, hiding places, if possible, to gather intelligence that will lead us to more information about the hostages. Possibly there are hostages somewhere beneath the hospital. So again, the IDF is working very slowly, very carefully. We are aware of snipers, of booby traps, of false tunnels. All kinds of things that will endanger our forces. We see special forces, especially trained forces. We see robots in action. We see dogs in action trying to detect personnel. So it's a very delicate operation. We don't know if eventually the IDF will take hold of the entire hospital and how long will that take. Pero, de nuevo, tenemos que ver todo correspondiendo con los dos objetivos de la guerra para destruir las habilidades de jamás y para salvar a los hostages. So speaking to that point, Dr. Shimoni, estamos viendo muchos achievimientos técnicos en el grado. Pero la pregunta es, estratégicamente hablando, esta operación en el hospital de la chief, Obviamente, con un término simbólico, y no diría de las ópticas, pero símbolos, eso importa en este punto de vista. Estrategicamente hablando, ¿qué esperamos después, si esta operación en el hospital de la chief, con lo que hará o no hará? ¿Qué es el siguiente? Creo que si vemos lo que está pasando en el norte y en el sur, sabemos todo sobre el norte. No sabemos todo sobre el sur. Tenemos mucha información que viene del norte, pero no tenemos la toda imagen. Sabemos sobre las fuerzas que el censor de la armada permite su coverage, pero no sabemos sobre otras cosas que están pasando simultáneamente. Y deberíamos imaginar que hay muchas cosas que están pasando, en la ciudad de Gaza y en el sur de Gaza. Eventualmente, cuando la operación de la chief está concluida, o sea, quizás, quizás, llegaremos a la evidencia de los asuntos, quizás, llegaremos a los actuales asuntos en el sur de Gaza, y, quizás, a las personas vivas, y no a los miembros muertos. Pero, de nuevo, vamos a intentar expulsar lo mucho que hay en la infraestructura de terror en la ciudad de Gaza. Así que esto es lo que deberíamos esperar. Y otro problema es, ¿cuánto tiempo para mantener las fuerzas israelías en esa área, en lo más notable, quizás, en la ciudad de Gaza? Esta pregunta tiene muchos aspectos, porque, primero, tenemos unos 350.000 reservistas que no van a trabajar y no tendrán sus familias, y no ponen sus niños a dormir en la noche. Y es un gran, gran incendio en la economía israelí, en las familias, en los nervios de todos en Israel. Pero creo que, si hablamos de un hospital de la chief como un símbolo, dos o tres semanas atrás, la noticia fue que la IDF nunca irá a una ciudad fortalecida, nunca irá a un hospital, nunca irá a el centro de la ciudad de Gaza, llegará al mar o el mar de Gaza, y todas estas cosas están sucediendo ahora. Así que deberíamos esperar más, deberíamos esperar más acción, más casualidades al Hamas. Espero que no hay muchas casualidades al IDF, porque estamos sufriendo casualidades a día, que es terrible para nosotros. Así que, de nuevo, y estamos usando muchas y muchas tropas para recuperar, para cubrir áreas, para conquistar áreas, vemos los tanques tomando postres y observaciones, vemos las operaciones especiales, las personas entrando en los canales y entrando en las construcciones. La Fuerza de la Ingeniería de la Fuerza. Estamos haciendo un trabajo maravilloso. Muy bien, muy bien. Con los canales, con la exposición y la desmentación de boobitrabas y charlas, y la munición que está ahí, que también puede ser boobitrabas. Entonces todo el mundo está ahí, y, por lo menos, todavía necesitamos este gran número de fuerzas. Sí, y cuando hablamos de lo que estamos sensando, o lo que sabemos sobre el enemigo, cómo es la leadership de la Fuerza, Israel, el Defensor de la Afganía, que dijo antes esta semana con el control del control de la parte norte de la Fuerza sin una habilidad para controlar lo que está pasando arriba, y, tal vez, también, lentamente, pero seguramente en el grado. Y, por lo menos, ¿todos tienen alguna indicación sobre lo que está pasando en la mente de las líderes de la Fuerza? Primero, en los últimos días, hemos visto una inflaz de personas desde el norte de la Fuerza a el norte. Antes de eso, la leadership de la Fuerza y los truques se han preventado, los civilizantes se han dejado. Entonces, eventualmente, tenemos indicaciones que han perdido algún control, si no todo el control. Creo que estamos intentando monitorar todas las comunicaciones, y sabemos lo que todavía existe y lo que ya se ha perdido. Así que, creo que el argumento del Ministerio de Defensa debe ser credible. ¿Por qué han perdido el control en el norte? ¿Qué es en su mente? Creo que una de las cosas en su mente es su sobrevivimiento personal. Y cuando hablamos de negociar un negocio con los hostes, creo que eso sería parte del negocio. ¿Cómo intentan securecer su propia seguridad personal y, tal vez, salir de la vida? Bueno, hablando de ese punto, exactamente las familias de los 239 hostes ahora en captivity por 40 días ahora son el día 2 de su gran marcha desde Tel Aviv a Jerusalem y un poco para aplicar más presión a los gobiernos de Israel para llevarlos a casa, no pronto, no mañana, ahora. Y en el día 24, la correspondencia en el set es con ellos marchando, con ellos, todavía un largo camino ahead, pero siguen marchando. Nicole, ¿qué podemos decirnos? Exactamente, Ellie, eso es lo que continuamos a escuchar. Ahora, eso es cuando necesitan su casa, no mañana, no mañana, deberían haber estado 40 días atrás. Esto nunca debería haber sucedido en el primer lugar. Y eso es lo que continuamos a escuchar, llevarlos a casa. Eso es exactamente lo que continuamos a escuchar de todas estas personas, hemos visto docentos, o sea, mayores de las personas que están asistiendo a los protestas hoy en día, al final del día 2 de la marcha, ahora mismo, en el país de Hashemonah, como dices, caminando desde Tel Aviv a Jerusalem, vamos a estar en la casa de Benjamín Netanyahu, a preguntar, a dar sus voces a los gobiernos en Jerusalem, ¡No! ¡No! ¡No! ¡No! Y eso es lo que ellos quieren saber, ellos quieren que continúan escuchar sus voces y por eso, marchando día a día, hasta la noche de saturday, para continuar con estos voces. Ahora, he hablado de uno de los miembros de la familia que ha estado participando en esta marcha. Su 72-year-old aunt fue asistida de los gobiernos en su casa, right near the border community. Ahora, ella dice, su aunt y su uncle, son algunos de los miembros de los gobiernos. Ellos, han vivido desde el 60, fue uno de sus lugares favoritos, y una de sus lugares favoritos para visitar su aunt y su uncle, de estos años. Ahora, afortunadamente, su uncle, fue asistido, y su aunt, Adina Moshe, fue asistida, y ella ha sido asistida durante 40 días. Ahora, déjame escuchar lo que su niña había que decir sobre la participación en esta marcha. Desde mi punto de vista, quiero hacer la marcha, y desde mi punto de vista, no puedo dejar de marchar. Voy a marchar todos los días y voy a marchar desde Tel Aviv a Jerusalem si necesito, para hacer esto, solo para ellos, para volver. Quiero a todos que vengan y nos acompañen, para estar con nosotros, porque es difícil para nosotros, no la marcha, pero nuestro corazón está roto. No podemos continuar nuestras vidas, no podemos, cuando estoy haciendo una cosa así, si estoy mirando, digo, no, no, no puedo mirar. Si voy a dormir en mi cama, digo, no puedo hacer eso. No son a dormir en la cama, o en la cama. No son bien de comer, se están así y no podemos continuar así. 40 días de no dormir, no comer, no decir, no es nada porque es lo que pueden hacer. Es hacer la voz, y la principal, también quieren que la gente se la entienda. No es solo las familias, no son solo los amigos que se acompañan. Quieren a todos que vengan, y nos acompañan, en la marcha de Jerusalén, porque, en sus palabras, el gobierno ha abandonado ellos ahora mismo, y no quieren el resto de la sociedad y el resto de los ciudadanos aquí en Israel para abandonarlos también. No, parece que todos los israelíos, esta toda la nación, están viajando con ellos, con ellos físicamente, pero todos nosotros, por supuesto, en espíritu. En el cual, el 24 de julio, correspondiente con las familias marchando por el segundo día, ahora, desde Tel Aviv a Jerusalén, y espero que sus amantes, nuestros hermanos y sus abuelos, todos de nosotros, van a estar en casa, como soon as posible. Muchas gracias, Nicol, por esto. Y ahora, a partir del 2 de julio, comencemos con Harsher. Esta es la moda operandia de el presidente turco, Erejipte Erdogan, ampliando su inflamatoria rhetoric, aún más, hoy, en el universo de Erdogan, Israel es un estado de terror, Hamas, una partida política electa, en Israel, el presidente turco, Netanyahu, va, vamos a escuchar. Estoy llamando a Netanyahu de aquí. ¿Tienes una bomba de atom o no? ¿Tienes una bomba de atom o no? Anuncia si te da. Pero no puede. Hey, Israel, tienes una bomba de atom, una bomba nuclear, y estás estresando con esto. Y tu tiempo de muerte viene. No importa si tienes una bomba nuclear, haz lo que quieras, pero tienes una bomba. Y queremos que lo termine, para más información, para el embajador, Alon Liel, presidente de la Comisión Diplomática de Israel, a Turquía. Muchas gracias, el embajador, Liel, por ayudarnos. Erdogan no está sorprendido por cualquier sentido, pero ¿qué es eso? Está intentando lograr aquí. Por primera parte, se han echado a los sitios. Creo que este tiempo, más que antes, es muy decisivo en sus atacos, muy brutal, y se ha dado en Israel. Creo que el daño aquí va a ser mucho daño, y creo que deberíamos estar monitorando sus actividades como colaboradores de Hamas, como compañeros de Hamas, y hacer cosas que no tenían que hacer cuando estaba casi normalizando con nosotros en el último año. Así que creo que deberíamos esperar a Liel venir de su lado. Sí, el embajador Liel, es lo increíble, la cosa es que, hace un mes antes de octubre 7, el presidente israelí y el presidente turco han echado sus manos, y los salarios de la Asamblea General, y pensar en el potencial de Turquía, jugar un rol constructivo, tener una línea de comunicación directa con las dos Hamas y Israel. Bueno, ahora todo se ha quedado, eso es obvio, pero el presidente turco, el embajador Liel, ha dicho, que su país es capaz de observar los parastodios de la Serpa, exactamente al contrario de lo que la Egypta y Jordi están diciendo. Bueno, primero, en relación a tu pregunta, la cosa increíble fue que él inició la normalización con nosotros. Él fue corriendo físicamente al que nos tomó el suelo, y aquí lo hizo en el tema de su comportamiento de ahora mismo, deberíamos esperar varias sorpresas primero. Y creo que en el amor de las personas jamás, líderes, que están fuera de Gaza para volver a Ankara o maybe a Istanbul, pero incluso a Ankara, donde él está, a la capital, nos ha asustado, nos ha asustado a quitarlos, y lo ha hecho. Y creo que, incluso si no lo invito a ellos, si lo muestran, les dejará. La otra cosa que deberíamos monitorar es que si hay un cambio, estará deseando llevar a los jamás murderos que nadie más debería llevar. No vamos a enviarlos a Gaza. Así que en el cambio ahora, que quizás es un par de días de nosotras, cualquier relevo de jamás murderos, necesitamos una destinación para ellos. Y en Gilaxalit, él tomó el peor jamás que le asustó a Ankara. La última cosa que deberíamos ver en intentar ser involucrados es la rehabilitación de Gaza. Y espero que no nos déis cerrar. Con los palestinianos, tenemos que recordar que en Turquía tiene mucha experiencia y en Turquía todavía tiene 4 millones de Syrians en su territorio. Así que deberíamos esperar más sorpresas de este hombre. Sí, y briefly, Ambassador Liehl, y otros que estamos buscando a las sorpresas de Erdogan, Jordina King Abdallah es rejegir cualquier presente futuro de Israel en el Gaza Strip el día después de la guerra. Así que, ¿qué es su paso y qué ha sucedido ahí? El paso, el paso es que no deberíamos comenzar. Y su posición es, por supuesto, en cada minuto que estamos ahí es un crimen o algo así. Así que, por supuesto, le gustaría ver a nosotros fuera de la zona. La pregunta será ahora que estamos aproximando el winter. ¿Qué será su actitud sobre refugios de gaza en Turquía? Porque él tiene la sensación que si se refugiará de gaza, incluso si se refugiará de gaza, le ayudará a Israel, porque en su línea, le gustaría que se refugiera de gaza y no nos ayudara a hacerlo. Bueno, todo el critico, no hay nadie con una solución a la situación. Ambassador Liehl, former head of the Israeli Diplomatic Mission to Turkey, muchas gracias por ayudarnos. Y muchas gracias, Dr. David Shimoni, con este estudio, con este broadcast. We appreciate your time and your insight, and we do want to show you before we wrap up this broadcast, some images from the takeover of Hamas, Hamas's parliament in the Gaza Strip earlier today is the idea of forces underground continue their operations there. This is what you're saying, was the Hamas parliament in the Gaza Strip. We will be back at the top of the hour with another broadcast as we continue our rolling coverage of day 40 of the war here in Israel. See you at the top of the hour. Thank you very much for watching. Israel is in a state of war, families completely gun down in their beds. We have no idea where she has. Our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. Esta semana, el 24 Israel bajo ataque, el 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra, la reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. 24 el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel 24 únicamente en 24 news. Special broadcast here in 24 News as we continue our rolling coverage on day 40 of the war here in Israel. Now what goes in and what goes out idea forces begin a surgical operation at the Shefa Hospital in the Gaza Strip where right underneath one of the main Hamas headquarters, the forces going through by room Israeli soldiers armed with medical supplies in Arabic speaking doctors to make sure the remaining patients are getting what they need. Now what goes out lots and lots and lots of ammunition bombs and other terror infrastructures stored there by Hamas, Washington backing Israel's careful action saying they obtain evidence to that Hamas is using the hospital compound for its tear operations. Let's take a listen to what idea for spokesperson Daniel Higari had to say. Idea forces are carrying out a precise and targeted operation against Hamas in a specified area in the Shefa Hospital. The idea is conducting a ground operation in Gaza to defeat Hamas and rescue our hostages. Israel is at war with Hamas, not with the civilians in Gaza. The idea forces include medical teams and Arabic speakers who have undergone specified training to prepare for this complex and sensitive environment with the intent that no harm is caused to the civilians being used by Hamas as human shields. We want to begin this broadcast by heading to the northern front, I-24 News Correspondents. Zac Anders on the Israeli Lebanon border with the I-24 News Team there. Zac, thank you very much for joining us. Well, in the past hour, sirens going off in northern communities. Yet again in the upper galley in this minute, essentially Hezbollah claiming responsibility for the anti-tank missile, a second action today. That's the Hezbollah is claiming responsibility over. Exactly. This has been the story of the last several weeks, hasn't it? Hezbollah and other factions in the south of Lebanon firing on positions on Israelis throughout the northern Israeli border. It's the same story again today. The Israelis, the IDF, saying that they have been able to detect launches from these positions and continue to fire upon the origination of these launches. But as far as we know, within this hour, one of the parents rocket or perhaps ATG fired on Kirchner Mona, we have no reports yet of injuries or if it struck anything, some of the images that are coming in does appear that hit into an open area into a field, so does not appear to have struck anything. I did want to I'll step out of the frame here to show you one thing. This is an observation balloon. And this is the site that's happening more and more around the northern border. These observation balloons will go several hundred feet up into the air and provide a 360 view of the territory installed with special high range cameras that can be able to detect. This is a new site in the last several days in our journeys up north. More and more of these balloons have been popping up in normal circumstances, the IDF would say we don't want you to show these sorts of pieces of military equipment, but given our location and how it's visible to everyone on the roadway here, this is just a site that anyone can see now and it's becoming more and more frequent here in the north. Interesting. And Zach, terminology is key at this point in time. And while both sides, if you will, are refusing to use the term war, what we've seen on the northern front in recent days seems like a mini war, so to speak. You know, I've said it before in three months ago, if what we were seeing here on the north was happening, it would capture the entire world's attention as a conflict between Hezbollah and Israel. But because this is such a complex geopolitical situation, the neither side seems to want to engage in those kind of terms or at least use that kind of language. You see the speeches that Nasrallah and Hezbollah gives does not enter fully into open that door into a full scale engagement and neither does the Israeli leadership. They do not want this front to open up. They said as much many times and they continue to tell us that this would be a significant challenge should they have to fight on another front. I-24 news correspond. Zach Anders on the Israel Abandoned Border. Thank you very much for this. Much more from Zach, of course, roger broadcast later on today and from north. We're heading south. I-24 news correspond. Mary McAuliffe for the I-24 news team there on the ground. Mary, similarly to what we've seen in the north in the past hour in the south as well. Red Siren Alerts are going off in several communities after a certain law, if you will. What is the current state of affairs now on the ground there? That's right, Ellie, this morning and this afternoon Rocket Sirens reign out in numerous different areas inside these border communities here in southern Israel, but also in Ashkelon and a report of a hit from a rocket that fell in the area in the middle of the street. We don't have any reports of injuries from any of the rocket sirens or any of the rocket attacks that occurred here earlier today. Important also to remember that most of these communities are evacuated by here in Sturro, which is where we had a rocket alert ringing out just an hour ago. We can feel a lot more people who are on the streets who theoretically are supposed to be evacuated and most of them it really has been a ghost town for the past few weeks, but now feeling a sense of life still coming back to these towns all the while, these rocket sirens continuing to ring out to send them into these shelters. Yes, and Mary, while the operation in the Gaza Strip continues in full swing, obviously, the epicenter, the chief of hospital, the humanitarian aid keeps on flowing into the Gaza Strip, not just as part of the soldiers at the chief of hospital, that, again, as we mentioned, the opening of this broadcast were armed with doctors and medical supplies, etc., but also what we can call the routine, the daily humanitarian aid, which is getting more substantial day in, day out. That's right, so more advances in the humanitarian aid, more progress in these negotiations to allow humanitarian aid, but those on the ground in Gaza still continue to say that it's simply not enough. Many of these hospitals have run out of fuel to operate their generators, so this is the main thing. The IDF, for its part, has said that it tried to facilitate a fuel delivery to the hospital director inside Shifu Hospital, but that was not actually sexual, saying that it was refused, the Palestinian director on his part, saying that they were unable to actually physically access the part where they were supposed to go and pick up this fuel, but we do know today that the IDF said that as it entered the IDF Shifu Hospital inside Gaza Strip, the IDF also brought with it a number of different humanitarian supplies, including baby food and incubators, as they are trying to help facilitate the removal of those patients who are still inside El Shifu Hospital. The IDF has been warning for weeks now that El Shifu Hospital will come under attack by the IDF as it continues to try and root out what it says is this terrorist complex underneath this hospital, and that's what they are actively doing as we still speak inside Shifu Hospital. We're bringing, as you said, just not just medical and humanitarian supplies, also bringing with it Arabic speakers while they try and assist and do what they can to try and help the patients on the ground there. The Palestinians for their report are reporting just the sounds of constant gun battles heard inside El Shifu Hospital in the complex area. The IDF is saying that it is not engaging with anybody but Hamas terrorists. Right, and a massive compound, several big buildings there, so several hours into this operation, still underway. I-24 News correspondent Mary McCollum, thank you very much for this much more from Mary, of course, later on in today. And joining us now here in studio, Dr. David Shimoni from Commanders for Israel Security. Thank you very much, Dr. Shimoni, for joining us. Well, again, several hours of this surgical operation at the Shifu Hospital. Let's try to manage our expectations in terms of what are the objectives of the actions now in the ground and what should we expect at the end of it? How long will it take to begin with, perhaps? Everything should correspond with the two main objects of this war defined by the IDF y by the Israeli government to take out as many of the Hamas abilities that we can and to rescue the hostages. And definitely any action now in the south is related to these two objectives. And I think if you want to compare what's happening at the Shifu Hospital to what happened on October 7th in the south of Israel where thousands of Hamas members invaded Israel and massacred everybody. When we're operating inside a hospital, we're not acting in the same way. Of course not. Yeah, OK, so we're talking about a very delicate, very dangerous, also politically dangerous because we don't want to hurt doctors and patients and the people who are at the hospital. So it's a very, very difficult operation. The intention is, of course, to expose a terror, facilities, infrastructure, ammunition, hiding places. If possible, to gather intelligence that will lead us to more information about the hostages. Possibly there are hostages somewhere beneath the hospital. So again, the IDF is working very slowly, very carefully. We are aware of snipers, of booby traps, of false tunnels. All kinds of things that will endanger our forces. We see special forces, especially trained forces. We see robots in action. We see dogs in action trying to detect personnel. So it's a very delicate operation. We don't know if eventually the IDF will take hold of the entire hospital and how long will that take. Pero, de nuevo, tenemos que ver todo correspondiendo con los dos objetivos de la guerra para destruir las habilidades de jamás y para salvar los hostages. So speaking to that point, Dr. Shimoni, estamos viendo muchos achievamientos tacticos en el grado, pero la pregunta es, estratégicamente hablando, esta operación en el hospital de la chiefa, con la simbolica, y no diría de las opciones, pero simboliza en este momento. Strategicamente hablando, ¿qué esperamos que la próxima, una operación en el hospital de la chiefa, con lo que sea o no sea, se despliegue? Creo que si nos vemos en el norte y el sur, sabemos todo sobre el norte, no sabemos todo sobre el sur. Tenemos mucha información que viene de el norte, pero no tenemos toda la foto. Sabemos sobre las fuerzas que el censurador de la armada permite su coverage, pero no sabemos sobre las otras cosas que están sucediendo simultáneamente, y deberíamos imaginar que hay muchas cosas que están sucediendo, en la ciudad de Gaza y en el norte de Gaza. Eventualmente, cuando la operación de la chiefa se concluye, ojalá, quizás, se consiga la evidencia de los hostes, quizás, se consiga la actualidad de los hostes, ojalá, las personas vivas y no los miembros muertos. Pero, de nuevo, vamos a intentar expulsar como mucho como la infraestructura de terror en la ciudad de Gaza. Así que, esto es lo que deberíamos esperar. Y otro problema es ¿cuánto tiempo hay que mantener las fuerzas israelías en esa zona, más o menos en la ciudad de Gaza? Esta pregunta tiene muchos aspectos, porque, primero, tenemos unos 350.000 reservistas que no van a trabajar y no tendrán sus familias, y no ponen sus niños a dormir en la noche. Y es un gran, gran incendio en la economía israelí, en las familias y en los nervios de todos en Israel. Pero creo que, si hablamos de un hospital chiefa como un símbolo, dos o tres semanas atrás, la noticia fue que la IDF nunca irá a una ciudad fortalecida, nunca irá a un hospital, nunca irá al centro del centro de la ciudad de Gaza, llegará al mar o el mar de Gaza, y todas estas cosas están sucediendo ahora. Así que deberíamos esperar más. Debemos esperar más acción, más casualidades a la Hamas. Espero que no hay muchas casualidades a la IDF, porque estamos sufriendo casualidades a día, que es terrible para nosotros. Así que, de nuevo, usamos muchas y muchas tropas para recuperar, cubrir áreas, cubrir áreas, vemos los tarjetos tomando postres y observaciones postres, vemos las operaciones especiales, las personas entrando en los canales y entrando en las construcciones. La Fuerza de la Ingeniería de Combate. Hacemos un trabajo maravilloso. Muy bien, muy bien, con los canales, con exposición y desmantelamiento, trajes de booby y amunición que está ahí, que también podría ser un traje de booby. Así que todo el mundo está ahí y, creo que, por suerte, todavía necesitamos esta gran cantidad de fuerzas ahí. Sí, y cuando hablamos de lo que estamos censurando o lo que sabemos sobre el enemigo, la leadership de Hamas, lo que dice la IDF, lo que hablábamos earlier this week, que Hamas lost control of the northern part of the strip without an ability to control what is happening above and perhaps also slowly but surely underground. And yet, do we have any indication that on what's going in the minds of Hamas leaders still in the Gaza strip? First of all, in the past few days we've seen almost a few of the people of the north of Gaza to the south. Before that, the Hamas leadership and troops prevented civilians from leaving. So eventually we have indications that they have lost some control, if not all control. I believe we are trying to monitor all of their communications and we know what is still existing and what is already lost. So I believe the statement by the Minister of Defense must be credible. They lost their control in the north. What's in their mind? I believe one of the things in their mind is their personal survival now. And when we're talking about negotiating a deal with the hostages, I believe that would be part of the deal. How do they try to secure their own personal safety and maybe get out of this alive? Yeah, well, speaking to that point exactly, the families of the 239 hostages now in captivity for 40 days now are in day two of their big march from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in a bid to apply more pressure on the Israeli government to bring them home not soon, not tomorrow, now. And Day 24 News Correspondent, Nikol Cedric, is with them marching with them still a long way ahead, but they keep on going. Nikol, what can you tell us? Exactly, Ellie. That's what we continue to hear now. That is when they need their loved ones home. Not tomorrow, not yesterday. They should have been back 40 days ago. This never should have happened in the first place. And that's what we continue to hear. Bring them home. That is exactly what we continue to hear from all of these people. We've seen dozens, maybe hundreds of people joining the protests today as they're nearing the end point of just the second day of the march. Right now, Nerebet Hashmona, as you said, walking all the way from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, going straight to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's house to ask questions to take their voices straight to the government in Jerusalem. Listen to them now. And that's what they want people to know. They want people to continue to hear their voices. And that's why they're marching day after day, all the way until Saturday night to continue to bring these voices. Now, I spoke to one of the family members who's been joining this march. Her 72 year old aunt was kidnapped from Kibbutz and their aunt right near the border community. Now, she said her aunt and her uncle, they are some of the founding members of that Kibbutz. They happily lived there since the 60s. It was one of their favorite places and one of her favorite places to visit her aunt and her uncle all of these years. Now, unfortunately, her uncle was killed and her and her aunt, Adina Moshe, was kidnapped and she's been held for 40 days. Now, take a listen to what her niece had to say about joining in on this march. From my point of view, I want to do the walking. And from my point of view, I can't stop walking. I will walk every day and I will walk from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and back if I need to do this, just for them to come back. I want everybody to come and join us, to be with us because it's hard for us, not the walking, but our heart is broken. We can't continue our lives, we can't. When I'm doing such things like if I'm smiling, I'm saying no, no, no, no, I can't smile. If I'm going to sleep in my bed, I say, I'm not. I can't do that. They are not sleeping on the bed or taking a shower. They are not eating well there. They are there and they we can't continue like this. So 40 days now of not sleeping, not eating, they say this march is nothing because it's all they can do. It's to just keep having their voices heard. And the main thing they also want people to know is that it should not just be the families, it should not just be the friends who are joining in. They want everyone to be coming out to this march and joining them in their march to Jerusalem, because in their words, the government has abandoned them right now and they don't want the rest of society and the rest of the citizens here in Israel to abandon them too. No, it seems that all Israelis, this entire nation is walking with them, some physically, but all of us, of course, in spirit. Nikol Cedek, I-24 News Correspondent, with the families marching for the second day now from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in the hope that their loved ones, our brothers and sisters, all of us will be back home as soon as possible. Thank you very much, Nikol, for this. And shifting to now, start harsh and get harsher. This is the modus operandi of Turkish President Rajupte Erdogan, a paying his inflammatory rhetoric yet again today in Erdogan's universe, Israel is a terror state, Hamas, an elected political party in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Gone. Let's take a listen. Burdan, şimdi Netanyahu, seseniyorum. I am calling on Netanyahu from here. Do you have an atom bomb or not? Do you have it or not? Announce it if you dare. But he can't. Esa. Hey, Israel, you have an atom bomb, a nuclear bomb, and you are threatening with this. We know this and your time of death is coming. No matter whether you own a nuclear bomb, own whatever you own, but you are a goner. And we want to turn now for more insight to Ambassador Alon Liel, former head of the Israeli Diplomatic Mission to Turkey. Thank you very much, Ambassador Liel, for joining us. Well, Erdogan remarks are not surprising by any means, but what is it he's trying to achieve here? First of all, it shows sites. I think this time, more than ever before, is very decisive in his attacks, very brutal. And he kind of gave up on Israel. And I think the damage here will be long term damage. And I think we should now start monitoring his activities as a Hamas collaborator, as a Hamas partner. And he will do things that he didn't dare to do when he was almost normalized with us in the last year. So I think we should expect more coming from his side. Yeah, you know, Ambassador Liel, it is crazy to think that just a short weeks before October 7th, the Israeli Prime Minister and the Turkish President shook hands and the salons of the UN General Assembly. And to think about the potential of Turkey playing perhaps a constructive role having direct communication line with both Hamas and Israel. Well, now it's all gone. That's obvious. But the Turkish president, interestingly enough, Ambassador Liel, told reporters that his country is willing to absorb Palestinians from the Gaza Strip exactly the opposite of what Egypt and Jordan are saying. So first, regarding your question, the amazing thing was that he initiated the normalization with us. He was running, physically running after us until we agreed. And here he made this dramatic U-turn. Regarding his behavior from now on, we should expect several surprises first. And I think he will allow the Hamas people, leaders who are outside Gaza, to come back to Ankara, or maybe Istanbul. But even to Ankara, where he is staying, to the capital, we kind of forced them, forced him to kick them out, and he did. And I think even if he will not reinvite them, if they show up, he will let them in. The other thing we should monitor is that if there is an exchange, he will be willing to take the Hamas murderers who nobody else would be willing to take. We are not going to send them to Gaza, back. So in the exchange now, that maybe is a few days away from us, and any release of Hamas murderers, we need a destination for them. And in the Gilaxalit did, he took the worst Hamas killers to Ankara. The last thing that I think we should see in trying to get involved in is the rehabilitation of Gaza. And I hope we will not let him get close. About hosting Palestinians, we have to remember that Turkey has a lot of experience and Turkey still has 4 million Syrians in its territory. So we should now expect more surprises from this guy. Yes, and briefly, Ambassador Liehl, and that we're looking forward to the surprises of Erdogan, Jordan King Abdullah is rejecting any future presence of Israel in the Gaza Strip the day after the war. So what is his take on what is to happen there? Erdogan's take. Erdogan's take is that we shouldn't have to begin with. And his position is, of course, that every minute we are there is a crime or something like this. So, of course, he would like, he would like to see us out, out of there. So the question will be now that we are approaching the winter, what will be his attitude about Gazan's refugees on Turkey's territory because he has the feeling that if he will take Gazan refugees, even if he saves their lives, it will help Israel. Because he, in his mind, we would like to cross further out of Gaza and he doesn't want to help us do it. Well, everyone's a critic, no one with any solution to the situation. Ambassador Alonli, el former head of the Israeli Diplomatic Mission to Turkey, thank you very much for joining us. And thank you very much, Dr. David Shimoni, here with us in studio for this broadcast. We appreciate your time and your insight. And we do want to show you before we wrap up this broadcast, some images from the takeover of Hamas, Hamas's parliament in the Gaza Strip earlier today is the idea of forces underground continue their operations.