 We'll be on fire, we'll be live lit It's a unique hustle, big shit Big shit, big shit, big shit It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit Big shit, big shit, big shit Name another podcast like this Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle It's your boy, you CEO, and I'm here with the lovely official Mr. Mako, what's going on? Nothin', Nothin' Medell Man, hey man, this guy done let us come in here like this You know what I'm talkin' about, this dude, then I'm blessed us, man We ain't man, we in Los Angeles, California, man Downtown, nigga, stop playin', man On Los Angeles Street On Los Angeles, there's some dude who tells us we're on 12th Street What'd he say? 1200 block Yeah, yeah, one of my partners, he from out here I'm like, well, I'm over here, nigga, I'm downtown, nigga I'm here with my guy, Sick Man, he in the building, baby What's goin' on? Aw, man, a whole lotta hustle, man Stayin' on top of everything, you know, life is good Blessed each and every day, you know, we pushin' Yeah, yeah, yeah I wanna know, so I wanna know what did the name Sick, or Club Sick, come from? So yeah, first it was Lil Sick, and that was just kinda like in my younger days, I was wild and out of control, and I apologize to everybody for everything that I done, I am older than I, a lot wiser, Lil Sick was a character, man Who gave you that name? My older cousin, Sergio Cooper, he was like my role model when I was real young, he was thuggin' real hard, and uh... And for him to even call you that? Yeah, yeah, he was, he was sick, I was Lil Sick, you know what I mean? So, it's from Ohio, Akron, Ohio, man What's the biggest thing you've done, why you think you earned that name? Underneath that name, uh, the biggest thing, hmmm Why you even deserve it? I think I paved the way and created a lane for artists, um, out of my area, as the name of Lil Sick, like I got a lot of attention and movement in my area by myself, you know, for things that I created and things that I was doing in the street that really brought awareness to the city and specific artists and, you know, kind of a movement in bringing a sound to the city of Austin, Texas, because the next generation was the first, you know, million dollar deal to come out of there, you know, and it was all Lil Guys, you know what I mean? Yeah, so you originally from Dallas? Yeah, I was born in Dallas, but then it's like, I was outside of Dallas growing up in the outskirts of Austin, Texas Okay, so, yeah, in the country, so, yeah What was the name of the country, the little town? We was in Lexington, Giddings and Donbuck, Texas, big county, Texas, and I'm deep from down south, dirty, dirty south, and I got to let it be known, like, it takes 20 minutes to get to the store, there ain't no corner store down there, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I'm from the deep down... 20 minutes to get to the corner, 20 minutes to get to the store, and they call it town, they all take 20 minutes from your house? No, I'm talking about in Lodi, stop playing, I'm talking about in Smithlin, I'm talking about being in, I'm talking about being in Smithlin, I'm talking about being in the country, I'm talking about down in the county, I'm talking about losing him, I'm a DJ screw man, I don't know if you said the real man, hold on man, so how old were you when you moved up here? It's been since you were older or what? Yeah, yeah, since I've been older. So you grew up in the country? I grew up in the country from, see like, what happened was, I was born in Dallas, so I was born in Dallas, and then by the time I was about 10 years old, 11 years old, I was extremely bad. Your mom and dad was together this time? Never together. Never together, do you know your dad? I knew my dad before he died, he did pass away. Wow. Okay, I'm sorry to hear, but you did build a relationship with him before that? We was on time of getting it done right then. Oh. Yeah, we was right on time about to get about to do the damn thing. Dang. How old were you when you lost him? I think I was like 26 or something like that. Yeah, like 26. 26 years old, man, and I can relate. I was young when I lost my mom, so about a little bit younger than that, but it affects you when you don't get to build that relationship. We had a relationship, but just to lose somebody that's that close to you, it affects you some kind of way, you know? And I actually, it affected me extremely, because it was like, we was just now getting to love each other. To build a relationship. Yeah, it was about like that third conversation, about like that third conversation of really getting it understood. And it was like, oh, it's over with. And I was like, oh, yeah, here go another step in life. So do you think that that's the reason, one of the main reasons why you ended up to the streets, because you didn't have your dad in your life at a younger age? I didn't have my mom in my life at a younger age. So who raised you? Grandma. Well, it was a lot of moving around and bouncing around. And my mom was there for a little while, but it was just like an important time, but she was not there at all whatsoever. So it was like, it was no, you know, it ain't nothing. Just got to keep on trucking. You know what I mean? Were you the only sibling? Yeah, well, it was my grandpa. My grandpa was there for a while. I stayed with my auntie for a little hot minute. And so no brothers or sisters. I got one sister, older sister, but she got up out of there. She got up out of there. She got up out of there. She was good. Yeah, she she went off. She didn't take you with her? No, I was down there with them in the country, deep down in the dirty south. Because it was like from from Dallas to Lee County to Austin, back to Dallas, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So there's a lot of bouncing around in between growing up growing up. So I was never able to like get a good get a good education because I'm over here doing this. Oh, got kicked out of there. Oh, you didn't call a charge in school over here. Like, so it was like, it was no chance to get no real schooling. So I was like, you know what? This about to be a rough one growing up. I had already knew it because I was like, man, this is the situation with my parents. This is the situation with my living. This is, you know what I mean? And it's just a bunch of mess. So it's like, you know what? And when I get on these two, it's on. And then when I did it, I popped it off. You look at your motivation. It reminds me of Markle. See, he came up here and started making waves. See, when my uncle did that, he came up here and opened up like seven fish restaurants. And yeah, but being from the country, being from Texas. Yeah, he came up here and set it off. Yeah, I'm going to go get this money. And while everybody else talking about they complaining and moving to Texas. No, I'm going out there and I'm for the turn up with this money. I'm going to show these boys how I get down with mine. So how did you figure it out? Like, cause we here in club sick, right? Yes. How did you figure it out? Man, like a lot of people that come up from where you come from, whether it was mentally draining and they just couldn't get it through together because of depression and all kinds of stuff. How were you able to just like, I'm going to get this figured out. Honestly, I can really just say it was the steps that I went through. It's like dealing with school and the way I was treated and the stuff I went through in school. It was like, okay, yeah, school ain't for me. And then it's just like, I encourage people to do their schooling and do all of that. But for what I was going through in my life, ain't nobody got no time for no school. You got to figure it out the bills at 12 years old. It ain't got to but a couple, but you in the house, buy yourself 12, 13 years old and you better figure it out or you're out of there. Wow. Yeah, so it was like, I got in good with the older cat down there. And before you know it, I had me a little hustle. And then it was a time where I could stay overnight and we're doing this hustle. I started scraping, scraped it up. Scraped it up. Scraped it up. You know what I'm saying? Every time. By myself. By yourself. You got it out the mud. Yeah, that's the real mud because you've been having to figure things out alone for a very long time. But being older now, looking back at your life, sometimes we can see avenues that we could have taken when we were that young, but when you're young, you're just not thinking you have like one track mind. So looking back, do you see where you could have, you know, escaped certain avenues that you took? Absolutely. And I know exactly what you're talking about. And what it is is parenting. And that parenting gives you a certain direction. So it's just like people that's going through stuff and you didn't have them parents for real, like I did and I know exactly what you're going through because you're in certain aspects, you're way later than other people in other situations. And it's like, if you don't have that coach or that mentor or somebody, then it's like, you going off of what you know, and if you don't know nothing, you constantly bump in your head. Exactly. You're in my head. But how can you tell a child that maybe going through what you went through right now, you come up on a child, you walk out of the store and you meet somebody and the things that they're telling you about their life is on like your life. How would you advise them to get out of that situation? What gets me out of the situation is something simple as my imagination. Wow. I escaped it all because I focused on the things that I thought about. Everything around in the world, all the people, all the family, everything are messed up all the way a full circle around me. When I learned to use my imagination and say like, hey, this building we sitting in was all white. There was nothing in there. What could I do in this situation to bring it completely to life to where it'll just draw attention and eventually bring money? And I eventually, every single thing that's in here, I thought it up and sketched it out, but I did this with every studio, every stop, every show I threw, every flyer that was put up. Hypnotizing. Yeah, it was all put together in my mind up to now where I'm making movies and I can sit here right now and we can think out a quick outline of a movie and then I know how to then take that, break it down, take it to the script man, give him two bands, he gonna knock me out a full script, take that to the production man and now me and him is making the film and then I know where to get it sold at. You know what I'm saying? So you always had that creative mind as a kid coming up. A to Z, I call it the A to Z plan. Everything you do, figure as much out about it as you possibly can and then go find the people who have completed the things that you've done and sit there and learn first and then make your move. Because you don't gotta wait on nobody. Ice Cube walked into this building and I was asking him, how did you do this movie thing? Cube vision, you know what I'm saying? Look man, you can do it. Get out there and do it. I would advise getting the proper learning and you know what I'm saying? Like kind of really putting your mind to the A to Z, everything and every aspect of it and go get it, you know what I'm saying? But for people to listen because I can tell something to my child and they don't always listen but somebody else that they look up to even more just like you said, Ice Cube came in here and I'm sure you looked up to him at that point, hearing it from him compared to hearing it from your partner telling you the same exact thing, you'd be more wanting to hurry up and get up and do it when you hear it from him. Is that true or not? I mean I think that they ain't got nothing to do with it. It's about this, it's all in yourself. If you stop in yourself, especially like being indecisive, that's gonna keep you from winning in a million different ways. That's why I told you Bone was one of the most influential people out of my whole time in story because Bone will tell you, sick you can do it, you're the mayor of Austin. What are you talking about? You can do this, you can do that, you can woo-hee woo-hee and I got the thinking, I am the motherfucking mayor around this motherfucking mayor, you know what I was like? I had the real confidence because it was like, you know, this is my partner. We really like brothers, but it's like when you saying this stuff, I know you don't lie to me, you ain't gonna tell no lie to me, we don't do that, we on some real brother level situation. So when you telling me stuff, I'm automatically believing it. And then it was like, you didn't been places I ain't been in the music game, in certain games or whatever, so I respected when it come out your mouth. And then it just got to the point to where it was like, yeah, I know I can do this. It ain't about thinking about it, it's like, do you wanna do it? If you wanna do it, then you already know how to do it because how you do everything else and go and bust the move and see like that's, that's. Man, for you, you, hey, shout out bone, we gotta send it in real quick. Bone put me right here. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm calling, hey, just hold on a minute. I got you. I'm gonna call sick. I'm like, man, bone man, thank you, man. And then he tried to do it everywhere we go to Atlanta. Wherever I go, he trying to like, yeah, go here. You know, and it's just love, man. So I can see how he could inspire you because his heart goes out when he speak. Nah, shit, it's for real. You know what I mean? He be for real. And it be cold. Him and my boy Kinky, like when they say stuff, it's like, you know what, they for real. So you might as well get real with it. You know what I mean? Not take it however you wanna take it, but it's for real. Wow. So when you came here and you just, you say you envisioned everything and then you set it up, man. I mean, so, I mean, how hard is it for the upkeep? Just doing business out here in LA if a dude else from the country or somewhere and he wanted to do something like this. I know you say he think that he can do it, but just the process of educating yourself on how to get a CEO, how to go and get the right paperwork. That's where our people at, a lot of them don't know. Exactly. See, I had the pleasure of having Pat. My boy Patrick Daniels of Dallas, he's one of my mentors and it's like, I had the, I actually chose him to be this position in my life, you feel me? So when he stepped into that position, it changed my life. I'm credit in being able to get cars and buying houses on your own, like step by step by step. I had a mentor, but I listened. Okay. And then when it sometimes it come down to, hey, look, you need to do this and pay for this now. So this can go down. If you don't do that right then, that process stops. So understanding is like, I was always a person that, you know, it's time to pay this, it's time to do this. And then it's like, that's how I got everything that I got. It's just like, you don't worry about what's happening later to worry about what the plan is and what you need to be doing right now and don't slow down your process. That's dope. Yeah. So do you think that, you know, yeah, do you think I can get a place next door or something? We got an old spot. Easy. I can come to you and you can be like, yeah, yeah, this is what it's gonna take. Yeah, me and baby for the old, see I call a baby, me and baby for the old McClellub out here. Yeah. But see what was the first thing that you did? You went and got the information from somebody that you knew that already did. That's it, that's it. See, and that's why I like, I like certain people that I deal with more than anybody because it's like, if I come to you and I'm telling you, I know you got this and I want this. Will you give me the game for this? Yeah. And they give me the game. Now I gotta give you everything. You know what I'm saying? Cause you on that level with me because there ain't no reason why I shouldn't want you next door. That's it, that's it, that's it. So I got all the game. If you want that, we can really make that happen. That's crazy. It's an Asian realtor right down at speed to get you fixed up just like that. See that? That's what I'm talking about. Even if you don't got your paperwork together, I can still get you. I can still get you in the door, man. So I wanna talk about the music just a little bit, man. I mean, you, so when I went with me, you know me, when, when, when Bone said I could come see sick, man, you gotta go see my boy sick. I said, I gotta look him up, man. So I shoot it to my brother. I said, Hey man, look this cat up, man. See who this seals, man. Cause my boy got me going out of the LA and you know, I ain't man, I didn't know where I'm walking into. My boy, look it up. My brother, he like, man, this dude got some money or something, man. This guy, not somebody just, no, he not no scrub. This guy, he got some, you know, he looking at the videos. He looking at your buildup and the way that, you know, cause that matters, man. The work at it works, man. That matters. So it was like, dang, I said, okay, well now I'm like, damn, I see how I'm gonna come at it, man. I gotta make sure mine right. So when I come, we can do the best show ever. You know what I'm saying? So thank you for inviting us in, man. And so, so the music, man, how did, how did that start? I always did music the whole time. I promoted artists and through concerts. Okay. So I threw about four or five hundred different events, concerts, after parties, you know, South by Southwest in the city of Austin, Texas are all, you know, everywhere around it and shit too. So it's like, that was what I was doing first before I started really going hard in music. But the whole time I never stopped dropping music. So I always had somewhat of a fan base when it came to throwing shows, putting out artists and, you know, rapping. Yeah, yeah. You and Bone did one together. Y'all, y'all saw something else, man. It looked like a lot of fun. I showed it to her when we was in the truck after waiting on y'all. I said, these boys having fun, man. So how did y'all come up with it? I mean, it's just like, shit, whenever we got everybody, you know, in one spot, and this is like, I just came up with the ideas. Like, look, man, we gotta get on this record. And then we had a PLA, my boy PLA. And I was like, look, man, we're gonna shoot this video over here. I got this set up with all you niggas gotta do to go get dressed. How we getting dressed? We play us. You gotta be when it's all for all of the money. You gotta come with it. We play us, man. Man, so, and so how important is it? Like, man, it's one thing I want to say. Let me say this before I forget, man. Your boy, Juliani, he was like, man, he referred to you like you were the young Russell Simmons, to be honest with you. He looked like you making moves, man. How important is it to have a right group of people around you while you're doing the things that you're doing to create? It's everything, but honestly, I can tell, like, me, I'm one of them grid-on hustlers. I'm gonna keep it 1,000. I don't need nobody. I get it. You know what I'm saying? But if somebody wanna come and, like I said, they wanna use a spot, they wanna, they need something and we can help each other out. Like, we can build. It's like, I'm never, you know, I'm not like the rest of them. You know what I'm saying? If you got something to offer, you, you know, you just wanna be a part of something, you know what I'm saying? We're gonna check you out, check your application, you know, at least give you a shot of what's going on. And then, yeah, there's some stiff boys around here, you know what I'm saying? So these boys can hang, you know what I'm saying? They from out. The Texas boy, man, that's what I'm talking about, baby. You gotta keep it 1,000 because it's like, look, you sit over here with too much money, too long, it's gonna get took. So you get these boys from around here and they can go a little of this, you need this. Come on, come on, get some of that. And don't do that down here and see if they don't skin you off the wagon. They don't skin you off the wagon. So you basically just saying, hey, man, let me break bread. You break bread wherever you lay your head and you break bread wherever you make your bread. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just gotta break bread. Like, come on, man, I got a lot going on. I need more and more people. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You gotta do it to build up, right? Yeah, cause it's like, I'll be looking at the movie sets. It'd be 400, 500 different people on the movie set. You know what I'm saying? I'm a movie maker now. Oh, you, hey man, so I'm thinking, man, somewhere down the line, you coming to Dallas, you're gonna come in my spot. We're gonna do some creating in Texas. We're gonna do something from a Texas to LA type movement. Maybe we'll recreate your story, you know what I'm saying? That's what it's all about, man. Absolutely, man. Wouldn't you like to be at Money Moses to pull it up? What's up, Money Moses? Money Moses is in the building. So you hear him talking that movie talk, man. We got this guy right here. Now we feel to be in a movie, nigga. I'm gonna try and get him moved cause I was born. Look at me, man. I deserve to be in a movie. You feel me? It's so crazy right now. I've accepted every single person that came to me with a movie idea, movie play, a movie situation because it's like, I'm also a stack hustler. So it'll be like this. I got one person, they building a story on what they wanna do and how they wanna do it. You see, I got three writers that I've already dealt with financially in place. Wow. So this means we already gotta understand it. You see what I'm saying? So as these projects come, it's like this. In the music game, you wanna be the artist that drop your little record here and there or do you wanna be a masterpiece? He could drop a record, he can put 30 boys out, like he can, whatever he wants to do. What you wanna do. You understand? So that's what I'm doing. I'm putting it all together to where it's like all these pieces work together from this movie world and this music world and just that and other and I've been getting money. Wow. I've been getting a little bit of money. It ain't all, it ain't all crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we getting to it. But we're definitely getting to it. But the thing I can honestly say, man, is the tenacity, the way that you speak about things show that you're aggressive about what you want. I think a lot of times people's biggest mistake is not being aggressive enough. Yeah, because if you say, hey, I wanna see, like right now I need to go get a fleet of vans, a couple vans for some stuff I got going on. And it's like, hmm, I gotta buy this house. I gotta do this. I got events, this nigga trying to give me a mansion. Gotta go check it out today. You know, I got all these things to do in a day's time and it's just like, that's why I walk around with that little blue booklet now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't wanna miss a leg. Miss a leg. I don't wanna miss not now. So understand, it's like, from A to Z, I gotta make sure it's all in place. And I can't, you know what I'm saying? I can't play no games with the hustle. If you stop and stop, at thought one, it's like, well, what if I don't do it? Or what if they run off with the bread? Or all that woulda shoulda coulda shit, you're gonna be broke as hell. That's for real. You feel me? Because it's like, I was sitting up in the schoolhouse in the second grade. I flunked the second grade, because I told the lady, this is a bunch of bullshit y'all got going on up in here. Excuse me and everything, but I knew this at two, that for me, I'm going through too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is not gonna help me. Yeah, this is not gonna help me. I don't understand what I'm going through in this lifetime we living in. And I knew it from then, I was like, boy, you're gonna have to be smarter, quicker, faster, hustle harder, go through the most, through this run, to be number one. That's crazy. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, you already knew it already. Yeah, I knew it, I could feel it. And it's like nowhere that I stop, I feel comfortable. Man. I'm in a penitentiary, I'm still paranoid. I'm still feeling like I should be doing more. I wrote a thousand songs, went out, got out of prison, got people rapping on these songs and these songs registered to me. And you know what I'm saying? We trapping, hustling, doing everything we possibly can to get the most out of the day because I'm not one of the ones, like I'm not about to be sitting over there looking crazy, trying to, with my handout, doing none of that, never. I ain't never had a chance to do none of that. Well, you say prison, what word was it in Texas, LA? Not prison in Texas. Man, ain't Texas something, I know. I know, bro. So how does, I mean, that's why when you came home, you was like, I'm gonna leave. How long did you stay? Shit, like after I got out. How long was you locked up? Oh shit, about two and a half, three, but they didn't smoke all kind of time out of me, man. Six months here, five, eight months there. There's a bunch of, you know, just petty stuff. And then they got their little two and a half and then they made me do 18 months. SISP monitor with the monitor on your hip and your ankle. So, so, so you telling me, I had already had county time against this, they didn't give me none of that. Turned around and did two and a half, then walked down 18 months. And it's just like, come on, man, doing the most. That's crazy. And the charge was from like eight years before. Like I violated the probation like eight, nine years later and they still hit me, you know what I'm saying? Like hit me hard. And I'm go down there and it's like niggas dying in prison because they old and it's hot. Now I watched it. Niggas getting killed in that, I was like, I'm like, come on, bro, like y'all wrong for doing these people like that. And this is weird. Let me get up out of all this. Yeah, yeah. You feel me? I'm bigger than this. And they hunting you in Texas in case y'all don't know. Wow. I don't care what nobody say, I tried to get off the plane in Austin, Texas and drive to Dallas, Texas to go see my mama that was sick. I can't even make it there. I'm locked up and had this. And then obviously then the cases disappears. And then I never get, I call back up there. Niggas, I don't get a bond. Like, come on, man. That man hunted us on the highway. He running down looking in cars and shit and seeing who in there. Up, boop. There he goes. Profile me, locked me up, bogus charge. And I couldn't even give him one stop to the other. Bro, I'm watching him hunting, looking for who he looking for. We was the only niggas over there. You see what I'm saying? He hunting, he on the highway hunting, going through the car, hunting, looking for you. Up there they go, boop, boop. That's why I don't go there, bro. Cause I know when I'm being hunted. Wow. I'm not fucking stalking cattle, my nigga. I'm up out of there. Man. I know when it's not for me. That's crazy. I'm too loud. No, but you, yeah, you turned up. I'm turned to turn. Yeah. And so, in good, you have self-awareness. That's one thing I can say. You know. I'm better in a home of gangs and nigga bank robberies and every day is the helicopters out. I'm perfectly fine there, but I can't sit and do my damn thing at home because I'm too loud. Damn. You know what? And it's true, like I said, but then you making opportunities out here for people. Nah, it's like this. When you that $100,000, $150,000 nigga running around the city doing what you love to do, niggas don't like that, them folks don't like that. And it's just like, it's a bunch of not liking going on. But you come down here with these big boys play where it's 50 million running around and they signing check. I don't care nothing about with them. I'm a little nigga out here. You see what I'm saying? I'm a big boy back home. So you got to understand, I got to come play with the big boys. That's real. They ain't worry about nothing what I'm doing. That's real. That's real. Man, that nigga real. Nah, that's real. So let me ask you this. So I know you mentioned Ice Cube, but who are some of the other ones that you've worked with out here ran into that was kind of like, okay, that was cool to lock in with him. It just did a couple of things. I ain't gonna lie. I didn't met quite a few people. All the cast on my movie is amazing people. DeAndre Barnes, Okay. Samya Monroe Jr. Okay. Would you junior from Players Club? Okay. Antoine Tanner from Sunset Park, Golden Brooks, and the list goes on. You know what I'm saying? That's dope. And the new upcoming actor, his name is Garrett Fox. We call him G-nice, but he Reggie in the movie. Okay. And see Reggie is a real person in real life. You know what I'm saying? And Reggie's in the movie also. Reggie like the real OG homie out here for me and my people or whatever. And so like, I got him in the movie, but I have someone playing him in the movie. That's my homie, but they kind of from the same hood over there, San Pedro, Long Beach area and shit. So it's like, I put together that real player, but I'm bringing up people starting their careers off. And then I got seasoned vets in the situation as well. And it's like, I'm building it up as I envision it in my mind. And I'm dropping out. I paid 111,000 and I'm still, I ain't done it. I'm gonna pay a lot more. Is the whole scene done just in LA or is it outside LA? It's in LA and Vegas. In Vegas, that's all, yeah. So how does that commute just between you two? I know it's like three and a half, four hours. It ain't nothing for us. Cause you know, like I said in Texas, that's Austin and Dallas. That's correct. I run up there and run back. Yeah, yeah. Especially for some paper. Yeah, for show. For show. Dallas to Houston or something like that. And back. And back. Yeah, that's nothing. Nothing else. Oh yeah, I had to stop him. He was gonna lose that with so much money. I'm praying for you. Are you a street nigga? No, that nigga is straight in Munro. I was going like, I was going to show him like, man, this. I said, bro, really? I said, man, I love you, bro. You need to be careful. I didn't care just as long as he was okay. You know what I'm saying? That's what matters, man. Nah, for real. Cause like you said, we being hunted. And I know that. And I know how he is like. I know a lot of it too. I want to make this remark because it's like, you definitely being hunted in Texas. I mean, you kind of being hunted everywhere if you really just pay attention to everything and you really know how people look at you and the energies in the room. That's real, bro. And you know how the judicial system is in that area. You know what your race is and how many people own things in that area. The population and your demographic in that area or wherever you lay your head. So you understand, like that's how you know when you're being hunted. Cause you got to watch everything where you at. Man. Understand what is really going on around you. Man. Sometimes you can tell as soon as you walk in the building. So you can tell as soon as you walk in the building I should not be in here and whatever I'm coming in here trying to get is probably not going to work out. Yeah. And that's a horrible way to have to live your life. And I don't know if we the only ones but understand like it's very hard to maneuver to try to be great when you have that going through your emotions in your atmosphere as you trying to get things done as a young individual. You can be doing everything right. You still have to like it. Yup. Yeah. Just come out on the bottom side. I was trying to get another building and it was me and my idea, my credit and everything spotless. No, bro. You can get a call back. You know what I'm saying? Wow. But it's true. It's real. The odds are stacked against you, bro. When you got this on you. Yeah, but I don't let them beat me though. No. Somebody else and when you got that boy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Still up in here. Yeah. Hey, man, I thought you were playing. Yeah. Nothing, man. Man, hey man. So your top three artists of all time did our live, man. You got to give me the top three because you're a music guy. So you got to give it to me, man. Number one, any genre. Any genre did our live. Who is the number one pick for sick? Number one. Number one. Top three artists of all time. That's how we hit them. I got to hit them with the NWA group because if it wasn't for that, that wasn't a door opener. That was a big door opener. I love Tupac, but I can't say Tupac because it's just like, as I see the situation, it's just like certain people open the doors for certain things and crazy things happen and they still happen and so it's like, I want to say Tupac, but I can't say Tupac. But I'm definitely going to say NWA. NWA, who's second? Number two. I'm definitely going to say, I'm definitely going to have to say shot eight. Shot eight, that's a dope pick right there, boy. Hey, man, that's the girl right there. She's going to shut everybody down. Shot eight shut everything down. Everything gets shut down. Everything's shut down. Number three. Number three of all time. Number three, I'll always be the one missing people up. All right, so number three of all time. Number three, I always get them. Don't every show. Number three. Because you're going to edge everybody out. Big tuck, Southside. Southside. Yeah, baby. I ain't got nothing, baby. Southside. Southside. I ain't got nothing, baby. Man, bro. Southside. We went to the South. We went to the South. Yeah, run up there. Run up there. My worst in this, I ain't got nothing. My worst in this, I ain't got nothing. My worst in this, I ain't got nothing. Mote three. Mote three. Mote three, we been boozy. Boozy. But he understands. He follows the end of those. Yeah, that's his top three. Like them boys did set the bar. Yeah, Savage Life, nigga. Yeah. So let me ask you this, man. Give me something on Sheesh, man. What's up with that? What made you guys come up with that? So basically, all these are, like, shout out to my boy, Kate Fresco, my videographer, and Donnie Cash, you know, the producer, and then my artist in music production and producer, Austin Martin. So with just these couple guys, like, I can make the song and shoot the video in like two days. Wow. And then he'll have it wrapped in like three, four days after that. But Sheesh is just like a record to keep dishing it out because I'm busy right now. You know, this movie stuff got me busy. This real estate got me busy, but I still want to give them the heat. So when I'm dropping, I consider almost everything that I drop is a single in some way. So here goes something else. Boom, I'm a drop. And then sometimes I don't even wait. I'll drop seven of them projects, song and video. I'll drop all of them at the same time here. Take that, you know what I'm saying? Hold on to that until I get this other paper situated in this big boy investment, and then I'll be right back. And then it's like, but I'm not gonna stop. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, that's going on. But my movie situation is really like a big passion for me just as well as music, but I see how I'm being able to implement me and a lot of people's music and beats and sounds into these films and these films are paying out more and they're going. You see what I'm saying? Like you can get a couple million on the first blow here, wow, just like that. Easy. Easy. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't necessarily say easy. No, no. Once you go through all the steps. When you got the people in place and you got the people in place and you're like, here. Give you a quarter million dollars if you can go walk in there and give me two million. You just get the eight. So first of all, I need to highlight y'all because I've always been close to y'all. You know what I'm saying? So I brought y'all somebody in, you know what I'm saying? Let them do the whip dip. And it's like, I will. I will give you a quarter million cash and pay the taxes on it if you can go in there and give me two million, three, two and a half or something. Wow. So I'm gonna make project after project this year I'm gonna make 10 movies because you could just what I call them to be movies. Wow. You see what I'm saying? My partner dropped a movie that came out in 2012, 13 and he's getting nice bread right now. How did he make that happen? Because the movie situation is all went streaming just like when the music went from the DVD disc. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's like all on apps and everything like that. It's the same thing. The movie platform world is open. And so, you know, if you catch it at that first wave and you got your 30, 40, 50 movies in there and they just keep spinning. And then you got a little bit of bread to put some more promotion back into that. Yeah. And that's getting you more money than the musicians. It's going down. It's really going down. Man. I'm putting that team together now because we can make all the music in the world but you're gonna need 150, 250,000 just to throw into that play. You see what I'm saying? So I took 150, 250 and throw it in this movie because it's gonna go forever. Man, I like that, man. I like it because, yeah. And the thing about it is it keeps going too. Even wherever, you know, that movie is being spent. The residuals are there. Some people are like, they like it used to be but it is because you never stop getting paid for the stuff they're spinning. Exactly. I just watched Harlem Nights. Oh yeah, I watched it a lot. And I think I was like, my grandma Luvonne holiday used to be laid up, drinking coffee in the bed, watching Harlem Nights when I was a toddler. Yeah, yeah. And it's still collecting. Yeah, it's still popping. Yeah, it's still collecting, man. Yeah, it makes the dollars. As long as you do it and you do it right with the right team and you push it the right way, then it's gonna continue to pay you. How many times have you seen your absolute favorite movie? Man, I love life. You see what I'm saying? I don't know why I watch life like a damn mad man. You see what I'm saying? So you know how much money you didn't made life through your lifetime? You didn't gave them a whole new life. That's for real, man. I don't even think about that way. You really are, man. Yeah, you really are, man. And so just how can people get a hold of you, man? If they're trying to email me. Email me, man. Email me, man. Lil' sick, L-I-L-S-I-C-C at G, man. Lil' sick, man. Hit me directly. What about IG? You ain't no IG or what's up? I'm on IG Lil' Sick too, but I got like six IG pages. Step by beats, man. Because it's like every movie I'm dropping another IG and then it's just like I haven't, I don't like dealing with social media like that. I don't. It's not like me. I do, but it's like since Instagram came out I've been somebody on it that knew a lot of people and it's just like we ready for the next thing. Is it worthless? It's not worthless, but your demo, like the way they got it set up on the Instagram is not doing, it's not allowing you to shine. Yeah, yeah. And it's like don't nobody got time to be playing with you to buy my shine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm gonna go make a movie on y'all. There it is. I have many of y'all got a quarter million to go play with. And you ain't been dropped that. You ain't been dropped that music. I want to be in a movie. You know, I need to be in a movie. You know, I can get you in a movie as soon as possible. Like I got, I got Wednesday through Friday, I'm gonna be shooting and then I'm gonna be setting the schedule for the next week and then I'll be done with Street Team, the movie I wrote for them. See that? This guy here serious, man. I love your energy, man. Check this out though. Man, I love your hustle, bro. I'm watching on like Crackle and Tubies and all this that love it. Yeah, I'm looking at some of the movies and I'm like, oh, it's cool. It's cool, it's decent. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, how can I make a better than decent situation quicker and faster than all of these guys so I can drop many, you know, more of them and you know, just kind of put it in, put it in a situation to where I have a nonstop machine that's dropping movies but they also better than what y'all doing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm putting that together and I'm watching myself learning and shout out to Michael Stirling for all he's taught me. You know, everything he's done and shout out to Domino, you know, one of my DPs and he's also a part of the world class Wrecking Crew. Wrecking Crew. Yeah, that's the homie homie. Yeah, so he's one of my DPs filming on this new movie street team and he filmed about half of the movie packs. Wow. Some of you say at Crackle and all those guys got apps. So are you looking to get you like an app or a server to where you can distribute the mute movies? I'm gonna get y'all some sauce on what I got going on in the movie world. So one of my homeboys that I'm managing, Marquis Moore, shout out to him on, he was on Snowfall, BMM, et cetera. So he's now a plug for a company called ViR. And ViR is like another 2B, et cetera, a platform or whatever, but he also has it to where he can get you on other platforms. So each one of these platforms is checking its own. Man. If you get five or six of them with him and I take it to my other partner and he get it on four or five more, you on eight to 10 platforms, you can get paid 10 times for that month. For that one movie. For that one movie. You see what I'm saying? You can't do that for a song. Can't do that. Man, I got some stuff to talk to you. We're gonna talk about it offline, but that's dope, bro, to be able to have that. But I have the people that can get the movie on there. Their movies is already on there. Bro, that's the part right there. That's the part. That's the part. You gotta have that plug. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I gotta got it. I'm definitely, I'll show you. It's dope, man, that you got that plug, that you understand the algorithm. Well, I'm not playing with it. No. See, like the people around these people been playing and they really got the sauce. So it's like, I'm not gonna play. I'm gonna get y'all what y'all need and y'all can have a percentage of it too to go get it and get it up in there and let's get some spins. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? It's my numbers. Every time you put numbers in there, people don't wanna do it. Yeah. Most people don't wanna put numbers so other people can eat out from them either. Exactly. See, people be tripping about that. Exactly. They be tripping on like that with the labels and they be tripping, look, bro, this is the business deal. You see what I'm saying? You think I'm gonna stop a cool, easy two million. You think I'm gonna stop that because I don't want you to eat and you don't think I gotta go get it situated? Man, sign your name on the paperwork and get what you want, man. I got a little few dollars on me too. Do you help me? Yeah, yeah, let's get it. So people don't think like that. They don't think like that and they don't move like I move either. But that's why you're being blessed. That's why you're growing, bro. Yeah, you gotta move. And you gonna bring a lot of people with you, bro, because you letting them eat. Most people don't, they compete with the team. They don't eat with the team. That's exactly what they compete. That's what you said the right word. So when you doing it like you doing it and letting everybody eat and eat with them, come on, man, it's going down, man. That's teamwork, make the dream work. One of the big homies out of the city named Jacob Pong, he just told me that a couple of weeks ago, he's like, bro, he's like, we bringing this, like they gave me a whole red camera. They gave you a red camera? The first one, the one I really wanted because I like the old lethal weapon movies. I like the grain and stuff in the, in the, you know what I'm saying? So they gave me the camera that I really, really wanted because this is the one that I really want to work in. And it was already rigged up, but you had to rig it up. They had a lot of stuff to it, but at $6,000, $7,000, I have everything you need for it or whatever. But it's just like really mean something to me because this is what I want to use because I'm looking for a certain look. The new cameras is making it like real sharp, real clear. And that gives you that look. I think that look is for TV shows. That old Panavision with the grain and stuff, them type of, you know what I'm saying? Like that's the- That cinematic flow. I'm trying to John Singleton the situation. Damn it, boy. But so I gotta find the right situation, what is for me? And then, okay, now let's get the best of this class and put that together and make it work. You know what I mean? And I used to like watching the end of the movie just to see John Singleton name. You feel me? Like just to see his name. He had a part of that. A lot of shit. A lot of shit. He was like really the stamp in the culture when it come to this film stuff. He was the one making the real good movies. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. And you could tell he put his time and his heart and his energy into those movies. And he had a thing in every movie. Shows too. Yeah, yeah, shows too. He did Snowfall. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying, man. Like the thing that you're doing is you're talking about the research and the education process of understanding what everybody's done that helps to understand where you're going with what you're going with. That's kind of what Napoleon Hill did and when he was thinking grow rich, where he wouldn't talk to everybody that was doing something and then created his own way for what he was gonna do, you know, pretty much in the midst of it. So when you educate yourself about what everybody is doing around you, God's gonna critique it in a way to where you come up with your own way of doing it, which is probably gonna be better than what everybody's doing because you got a younger mind. I'm being real. That's the way I look at it. So I listened to the young, the guys younger than me, oh, I'm sponging off of them. Because I know already that's where the new vision's gonna come through. So I'm like, okay, what do you say? Okay, I'll do it because I know that he gonna be a little bit more tapped into how we're moving in the younger days. And usually they're quicker with it. Y'all quicker with it. And then the ones under you, they quicker with it. So you gotta try to tone in the deal, home in the deal. Yeah, you keep every generation, you get the generation from under you and groom. And it's going down. Thank you, man. Amen, we love you, bro. Sick, man. Thank you for letting us come over here, man. Oh, that's love, man. Amen, it won't be the last time. When I come down there, I'm like, man, I can go see sick, man. It's going down, nigga. And if I'm somewhere else, I'm calling, pull up, man. I gotta see you, man. So thank you so much for coming on the show, man. We love you, brother. And hey, man. 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