 Hello everyone. Thank you for tuning in to the Art So Wonderful show. I have two incredible ladies with me, work with us on the Art So Wonderful team. First I want to say that I've come by our Art So Wonderful art gallery at the University Mall. We come around and see all the beautiful art that our director, our director, Alondra De La Questa, installed. It's so nice in there. 5,000 square feet. Then check out going to Fulcourt and check out the beautiful mural that we also installed working with Michael Mullins, an illustrator. And Art So Wonderful mural coalition. So right now I'm Bruce Wilson, executive director of Service Render Incorporated. And Art So Wonderful is a program of Service Render. So I want to introduce you to our guests, let them introduce themselves, go right ahead. Hi, my name is Alex Booth. I'm a studio art major and psychology major at the University of Vermont. And I'm also on the mural coalition team for Art So Wonderful. Caitlin Williams, I'm a senior in environmental studies with a double-winer in public communications and political science at the University of Vermont. I'm just here to talk about these and change the chamber. Awesome. So, wow, we got a lot going on, you know. And so we're going to start off with Alex, who is doing this incredible mural right here on Center Street in Burlington. And let's talk about it, Alex. Right, so I was commissioned by Charlie Handy, who is the owner of Handy's Toeing and a lot of other buildings including Simon's Deli. So this mural is on the back of Simon's Deli on Center Street. And it shows Charlie Handy's parents, Simon, and I think it's her name. Anyways, it's featuring them on the wall in black and white, and they are community members. So I showed them really big in black and white, and then I have two Lebanese cedar trees because they're immigrants from Lebanon. And they're standing on them, and then I'm also going to add a large eagle on the top. And yeah, that's basically it. I'm still in the progress of it. I'm sure there's going to be a picture show on there. But yeah, it's almost done, so I'm pretty excited about it. Well, we got a little Rage music in our video so that we like that. I always thought we should open our show up with some music. I think we should commission her to do it. Yeah, to do that for us. Anyway, so the mural that Alex is doing, Handy, and Charlie, and Joe, and Joni, and Anthony Handy, has been on our advisory board for probably 15 years, and they work with our programs, projects, and events, and help us as well. And the mural Alex is putting up there is dedicated to their parents who created all the Handy where they started them all. And the man that Alex is talking about is named Simon. So you see all the Simon stores everywhere around the state, and I think in New Hampshire, and all the places. That's who is dedicated to Simon, the father. And what an incredible mural that Alex is putting up there. And she, you know, 8 out of 10, you did it all by yourself. You did a little help here, two weeks from our Arts and Wonders for Mural Coalition, and Brown High School students are part of our team, and others. You know what I mean? I probably was, all that white you see, I did that. That was all me. It was a lot of work, I tell you. I had to prime that wall. It scraped it too. Oh, it's right. There was like plastic all over the wall. Oh man, it was tons of plaster or, you know, scraped beans from old paint that we've done, because that wall is our arts. We were the first ones to put murals on that wall in 2001. And so, but it's been changed out since then through all the mural designs, but we had, you know, God be right. God be right there. I knew it was hard for some reason. The easy part was painting it. So we want you to go down Center Street and check out that mural that Alex is doing and take a selfie in front of it. And if you take a selfie in front of it and sit into our art director contact at artsowonderful.com to Alondra, we will try to send you something. We'll, you know, we'll put you in a raffle to win something to cool stuff. So take a selfie in front of Alex Murrow and Center Street Burlington, send it to atartsowonderful.com, attention to Alondra or Alley. And we will put you in a raffle to win something. And so thanks. And I also noticed too that we have another cool mural right in the same block down the street. We're on the same wall pretty much with different types. What I'm trying to say. Yeah. Are you talking about Jamie? Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. So she's doing, following along with the botanical theme. She's doing some like abstract looking flowers. I believe it's in someone's hair, right? Yeah. And it's all about like kind of accepting your own beauty and everything. She explained it to me a little bit. It's in the progress, but it's looking really great so far. And it's really cool because it like wraps around the corner of the building and continues on to the back. So yeah, I'm excited for that one too. And Charlie's going to do one in the middle of me and Jamie's mural. I saw his plans. I don't think did he start yet? I haven't been over there, but I don't think he started yet. Yeah. But it's, remember what it's going to be? Yeah. It's like, so he was going to continue with my Lebanese cedars on the left and right. And then in the middle, it was going to be some like planetary type of visuals. So I think that'll look cool all together, you know, like all the nature scenes. And then with Charlie and Simon's parents and everything. Yeah, because it started with trees, right? It started right off the trees. Yeah. So that's going to be cool. Yeah. Cool natural scene. Yeah. So awesome. Because I, as we get to, and also too, take a selfie in front of those murals too. And in any mural you see that says Art So Wonderful, and take a selfie in front of it. Send it to at artsowonderful.com. Tension Alley, or Alondra De La Cuersta, our director. And we'll put you in a rifle to win something cool, you know, for some gift card or something. So now as I see the bees flying around us. You see those bees flying around? They're here with us. It's probably because of Kaylin Williams, an incredible lady for me. She introduced herself, and she's going to be working on this bee project. And wow, she's about to tell us about it. And we just came way to work with her. We're volunteers and do everything she tells to do. She's working with one of our experts, James Keyes. We call Kaylin, I call him like Bubba Bee. So he's an incredible man. And we'll have him on the show one day with Kaylin. He's going to host the show and have Bubba on. Go ahead on, Kaylin. Tell us about your project. All right. So I am doing a pollinator garden for my final capstone for UVM. If you don't know, Burlington and UVM are designated bee friendly sites. So Burlington has a bee friendly city designation and UVM has a bee campus friendly designation. That being said, there aren't that many pollinator gardens that are actually around those areas. Some exist, but they're very disconnected. So my goal was to kind of try to connect all these spaces so that we would have more pollinators coming. Because pollinators being around are good for our own mental health, generally, and our own physical health as well. And also we need to preserve the biodiversity of our native bee species. We have over 300 bees in Vermont that are native to Vermont. But we don't really talk about them or hear about them that much. So the project is really trying to introduce these bees to the larger Vermont populace so that they're aware that they exist and that they are also around. So while we try to save honey bees, we also need to preserve these bees as well. So yeah, just a lot of interesting fun stuff, learning a lot. Whatever you can do to help pollinators, you absolutely should. Gardening is such a relaxing and rewarding experience. It's something that many people can do. I would argue pretty much all people could garden if they wanted to. And if you can do that, you can make it pollinator friendly so that you can attract all those beautiful butterflies to your backyard and get to enjoy them while they're here and giving you all these great ecological services. So yeah, you said that the bees attract butterflies. What else do they attract? I mean, what's good about a bee? What's good about a bee? Well, you could argue there's a lot of bad things about bees, mostly the stinger. But I mean, the good things really lie in what they provide for us. I mean, you don't have flowers without bees. You don't have vegetation in general without bees. I mean, others as well, we also forget about beetles. They're a major pollinator. They're not super effective because they just kind of walk up and then have to walk back down and then go find another one that walk back up and walk back rather than fly. But also hummingbirds, we have the red-throated hummingbird here in Vermont. I mean, they're beautiful and they interesting facts. So no insects can see the color red or at least bees can't. So they don't pollinate red flowers or red plants because they can't discern that color. So pretty much all red flowers are pollinated by hummingbirds in this state because they're like pretty much the only ones that go to red flowers. So, yeah, I don't know, a lot of interesting facts. Wow, it's so funny because I just grew up in Chicago. I used to see hummingbirds all the time, you know what I mean? I really haven't seen any in Vermont all the years I've been here. Yeah, the other day it was so funny. So I was sitting outside just in someone's backyard and there was this hummingbird that just like, I don't know, I think my shorts were red. So I feel like that's why this hummingbird was really interested in me. But like this hummingbird just like was in my space the entire time. And I mean, like flying up and like looking like directly at me. I feel like that never happens or like so afraid. Yeah, no, I mean, I was just sitting very still and I mean, it was just like around. But that thing like was flying around me. I bet checking out my shorts. I'm not sure that he or she, they loved them. So they were like, how do you get those shorts? That's so cool. But yeah, that was, I hadn't seen many hummingbirds myself until that moment. So I was like, they do exist. I got away with my resin, yeah. Yeah. Being from Florida, we have a lot of different hummingbirds. So it's just like, I mean, it's such a treat to like just see them. I mean, as creatures, they're wonderful and they're so cool because they just do everything that like they technically shouldn't be able to do, which is like flying, for instance, and like flying backwards and all that fun stuff. So. Hovering. Hovering. Yeah. That's what that one was doing over me. Yeah. That's amazing to see this. Hovering. Hovering. Because it's like the wings are like bug wings. They're not like birds, like wings. Yeah. They're so fast. Yeah. Oh man, you can't see that. You can't see them going. Yeah. Yeah. It's so loud too when they fly. Like when they start flapping, like it's like, it's just like this weird buzzing noise and you're just like, what is that? And then it's the hummingbird. You're like, you're so nosey. Think of that long beak. Yeah. I mean, what do you, what do you call a beak? Yeah, it's a beak. I know nothing. So what is, I mean, so I wonder why it's so long. Let's just get into the flowers. Yeah. That's, they get the nectar. So, so what do you get the honey around on UVM? What are you going to do with it? What are you going to do? I don't know. I mean, there's a couple of different options. I think the best option is that on UVM, there is a lot of food insecurity, especially with staff at UVM. And if you can like provide them with a sweet, nutritious treat, then you absolutely should. I spent in any college students as well who are like in need of. Yeah. So I can't wait to get started with that, man. So. We can meet with the important people. Yeah. On the 21st, I'm going to have a complete design of the back of a bittersweet is where the first garden is going to be installed, bittersweet building at UVM. So yeah, pretty much to 21st, there will be like an actual plan in the fall. It's going to be laying down compost, just leveling the area, making sure it's restored enough to start planting some things. And then probably within the coming spring, that's when most of the stuff will be planted. It's getting a little late in the season to start planting a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Unless it's perennials. They have, don't they have like a planetarium? Oh, I'm not planning to. Some type of garden is at UVM. Yeah. In the order. You plant something inside over there. Yeah. They have a greenhouse. We're not sure. I think you have to be, you can intern there. I'm pretty sure it worked there. Yeah. I'm not a hundred percent sure how, like who runs it, like who's the governing body of that whole thing. Yeah. But I've not worked or interned there. No, I understand. Maybe somebody, yeah, we can put some, get some seedlings going there. Oh, absolutely. So when the spring comes, we can already have them ready to go. Suddenly. You know, that's all I'm saying. Yeah. And so we're going to let the best flowers, and the bubble will sell us a lot of things, a lot of flowers. You know, we know this stuff. Yeah. So what's the best flowers, or what type of flowers are going to be growing, or plants are going to be growing for your bee? The bees, yeah. So I don't have a complete list yet, but something that Bubba had said, like the goldenrod right there is something that bees generally really like, especially bumblebees, I believe, or like one of the main pollinators of goldenrod. Because the focus is biodiversity, there will be like a long range of plants because we want to be able to attract some of those specialists as well that only go to very like specific kind of plants and won't like go to goldenrod, for instance. But like, we have a trout lily bee, which only pollinates trout lilies. I'm not saying we would grow trout lily lilies, because I'm pretty sure they have to be in like, Water. Yeah, like a bomb kind of situation, which is not the, that is not what's happening over there. But like just for instance, like planting those kinds of flowers so that we can get some specialists in the area as well. Mostly perennials, but some fun specialists to bees, you just have to stay tuned and see if they're defeated. So let's talk about a little bit about the type of help you're going to need for this project, you know, because we got some work to do, right, for us to build it. Yeah, so I mean the main part would be like the manual labor of installing a garden, which is like leveling, putting out the compost, building any flower boxes for like stairwells and stuff, because you want to make sure that like there's points of access that like every formula you can get. Also, building, I'm blanking on the name, but what is the... You come up for the... For the... For the... Well, yeah, that would be one. What was it? So like when you have it in the ground and there's a box around it. Yeah, sure. That's... I'm blanking on the name, but that's called very professional. But it's... I don't know. Yeah, but it's essentially just building that stuff, planting the flowers, there might be more trees that we have to plant because where it's located there's a road that is very busy and one thing is that pollinators tend to not like tons of noise because it can really... It's just messes with things. I mean, in general, like animals don't like tons of noise. So it's about planting trees as well to kind of drown out the noise from the street into the garden. So it's... I mean, it's just gardening in general. It's like the main... You like rubble some of white gravel or something underneath and start it up, right? That's cool. I just can't wait to get it going. Yeah. And so basically it's going to be... I mean, it also animates, right? The building animates, right? Yeah. So I would assume that... So because it's at UVM there will be college students involved as well which is a great connecting opportunity for people who are going into college thinking about going to UVM because you don't only just make those connections with other college students who are going to go off and make their own connections but also with professors as well which is always an incredibly valuable resource to have. Yeah. In our program, United College Club will certainly help come to help come sustain that. Yeah. That's a great idea and you're the first probably, right? Yeah, I don't think... Have anybody else done this type of project before? No, there's a beekeeping club at UVM so they keep bees and they have some pollinator space. I don't... I'm not in the beekeeping club so I don't know the full extent of what they have but just being a UVM student living on campus witnessing like what the campus looks like there aren't that many spaces there available. So if we can add more spaces to encourage the beekeeping club to keep, you know, keeping those bees and also invite other bees to come in and invite some of Bubba Bee's bees to come in. Yeah, he's got the best bees. The best bees. I know. Yeah. So, thank you for that question. We'll talk a little bit more to you in a minute about your other projects you work on. Alex, so, what's next, Alex? You know, we still... Well... You and I, what's next for your projects? What do you want to do? I don't know. I mean, I haven't gotten any opportunities yet for any other girls. Yeah. But if you have any other roles I'd love to do. Of course we do. The University of Monroe told you that. Oh, right, yeah, yeah. And also, you know, I've seen your work. You've seen me some work you did, finished that needs to be hung in an art gallery. Yeah, yeah. I've been doing a lot of my own paintings. Recently I've been getting a lot into that. So I usually do my own oil paintings, which I want to definitely expand. Yeah, and put stuff in galleries. I know I'm on track to put some stuff in galleries as well. Oh, wow. Yeah. But I definitely want to do more murals. Yeah. You like that one? I do, yeah. That's your first mural? Yeah, I know, yeah. It's so crazy to work on something that big. I've never done a portrait that size before. And it was really hard to figure out the proportions of everything. So that took me a little, like, planning. I mean, that was awesome too. Like, you know, like I said, you talk to her, I'll do... Oh, yeah. Me! All right, you got the job. Yeah, I was really happy. I know. I know. And I was like, you show me some stuff. I'm like, wow. And we can draw anything. Yeah, I... We can draw anything. Yeah, I like painting a lot. So would you just send me something like a painting? Is that a... What is that? Is that an old painting? Is that an old painting? No, I... As far as I actually know, is it more painting or... Oh, yeah. That was oil. But it was over... I got some, like, plastic-y gel type thing. And I put that over a painting I did and then I carved it. So I carved, like, little cubes and, like, prism shapes. And then I painted oil over the, like, acrylic gel. These little faces from this website called This Person Does Not Exist. And it's a... AI-generated face, so the person doesn't exist. It's, like, an amalgamation of three different faces. And sometimes the algorithm messes up because there's, like, two people in one picture. So in the side, there's, like, some little, like, creepy people coming out this side. So I painted that on the borders and then it's a little grid. It's on my Instagram, if you want to check it out. It's Alex Boff. Yeah. Yeah, but more paintings to come in that vein. I really like what I was doing with that. I found some other AI websites that I want to make more art out of. So, yeah. So, now, what... It's not okay. That's not on campus, right? Yeah, it's on campus. It's on, yeah, stretch campus. Okay, all right. Ooh, man. Yeah. I was like... I was like, do I know that person? You say somebody you don't know. You know what I mean? I'm thinking, like, I know that person somewhere. No, it's so crazy to go through the website, too, because you can just, like, keep refreshing and then you get new faces. And sometimes they look like people you know and it's so creepy because they're so... You don't know? Yeah. Yeah, maybe, like, the person you know is mixed in there. Yeah, some way, right? Yeah. So, that's cool. So, you got... How many works you got on campus? Uh, I don't know. Some... I did a lot. That's, like, what I do for fun. I got just a spot for you at the art gallery and everything. Cool. It's called the Alex spot. Just for real, for real. All right, cool. Nice one, too. Yeah, I gotta crank more out. Definitely. How many pieces do you have? Uh, I only have two of them here that are done. But I'm working on this one right now. I'm gonna work on it later. Later today. I'll show you. I think we'll probably meet at the mall on Sunday. I'm not afraid, but everybody didn't like... Oh, on Sunday? No, I think it's Monday. Is it Monday? Oh, Monday at 14. Yeah, I don't think everybody at, like, you know, said they're gonna come. I think it's 1.30 at University Mall. Okay. At our gallery because... I might have class. Well, you gotta let us know. Yeah, I'll text you. Yeah, you too. Okay, let me see. Yeah. But, um, so we got walls. We got, um... We got more walls to go over. And we have, um, we have, um... All right, gallery space for your art. I can't wait to see your art. Then you sell it. Yeah. Guess what? Yeah. I'm gonna get you 100%. Wherever you sell. Cool. Nobody in that hour got to get 100%, but you are. Okay. So let's just squeeze off a little talk about before we go to your other project. Because you have incredible art too. Art on objects and all kinds of cool things. Let's talk about that for a minute. Um, I thrift a lot. I really believe in reusing objects, reworking stuff, um, because we want to keep as much stuff out of landfills as we possibly can. Um, and a lot of ways to do that for me is to make it just paint on it. Like, I will go and just get watering cans that people have decided they don't want it anymore and just paint on them. I like to paint on lampshades too, because there's a lot that, like, come in and they're just kind of like... It's kind of boring. So, like, you know, you can paint on it and make it more interesting. Yeah. Does that make the light change a little way? Um, sort of, not really. It depends on how much paint is on there and what, like, the color of the lamp is. Um, to be honest, like, I have, maybe I'll send a picture and one will be up there of, like, a lampshade that I have that has the Spanish ibex on it. I really only like painting animals. I don't like anything else. So, um, I don't know. When I turn it on, it looks like demonic. It looks crazy. Whoa, that's cool. So I'm just kind of like, oh, okay. So, like, maybe they're best for, like, just looking at. But you can also turn the light on. Just don't look at the lampshade for too long. Yeah. And then you're like, this looks weird. They're like creepy shadow animals. Yeah. But that's kind of, I mean, I don't know. Maybe that's your thing. Maybe that's what you want. That's definitely for somebody. Um, so, yeah, I like painting on spoons too. Whoa. Yeah. My family is from Wales. My dad is Welsh. And there's a Welsh tradition of carving spoons. Mostly from, like, a man who would want to propose to a girl. He would carve her a spoon. Oh, wow. And they're very intricate and very cool. You should definitely look it up. Um, but I can't carve. And that would, if I tried to do that, that would be a disaster. I'm very clumsy. So, I would lose a finger. So, at least one. So I was like, I'll just paint on it instead. If you want to see me. Yeah. So I can kind of be in touch with that cultural root, but do it in a way that makes sense to me. And also, whoa. That's awesome. We're looking for it. Now, I've seen you. I've seen you. You showed me. You sent me stuff. So, um, you want to let people know if they want to look at your art. You got an Instagram account or something like that. Yes. Look at it. Um, so my Instagram is at Caitlin the Greatland with a couple of underscores. There will probably be a link up there. So, yeah, check it out. Check it out. If you want to spin, let me know. So, yeah. It's going to be something in an art gallery. Yeah. Oh, spoon. No, that's going to be cool, right? Yeah. Objects, no painting on objects is so good. It's so incredible. Yeah. I love seeing them. She showed me that. Like, I've seen all of her different art, you know, like the green water thing, you know. That was awesome. See, the color was incredible too. What color was that? What color? Only I'm watering. You know, I'm spouting. Watering, yeah. So it was like the lime green, very, very green. And I painted, like, some fishes in it. I may be a picture of a lot of my art. So it's easier to show than to try to talk about. Sure, yeah. But, yeah, definitely a lot of colors. I like things with a lot of colors in them too. Yeah. But, yeah. Well, I leave Mural and some Jamie Bedard. She loves colors. Those colors are amazing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I'm sitting in the street, Mural. Yeah, really great vibrant colors. Really great vibrant colors. Yeah, vibrant colors. I mean, like, look at red. We know that's not red. What color, you know, she got some, you know, some other fancy red color. Green or blue. You see, I'm out in the hills. Like, she goes around the corner, like she did in Mural. Yeah. Like, you know, Tharum was out in the hills around the corner. Yeah. So, all right, everybody. We're not done yet, because we want you to talk about what we want to announce that today is September 11th. This is a historical day. You know, like in 2001, you know, it had some horrific, you know, Twin Swap towers was knocked down by terrorists. So, I just want to wish all the people who survived it well and I want to say to the people who didn't survive in 9-11, rest in peace. And, you know, this is something we always remember. It's an important day for our history. Sad day, sad, sad day. Do anybody remember what they were doing on that day? That was one. I was 2,000 years old. Yeah, it was like two or three. Well, for me, I was one of the directors of the Community Justice in the Burlington. I was coming in to work and one of my staff people was saying, Bruce, they just knocked down one of the Twin Towers. I was like, terrorism, they just ran their plane. I said, come on, woman. You know what I mean? I was just looking at it on TV and I seen it. Boom. And then just as she said that, they said, oh no, the Bruce people said, oh no, they just flew into another one. And so, sure enough, you know, I'm still stunned. I still feel that way. That was the day when I first met him. And so, wow. What a deal, man. It's so amazing. So, I think now it's 9-11. And people, thank God, people survived it. And then for the people who didn't, I rest in peace. And we're witchy. You know, we're all Americans. And the terrorism, we won't stand for it. You know, we're gonna try to get rid of it somehow. So, all right. So, back to the show. Kamen. So, you got some things going on with like a Chamber of Commerce, or the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, or some of the symbols that talk about that. So, there is a lobbying body in Washington, D.C. called the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. They are not to be confused with the actual Chamber of Commerce in Congress. They are a separate entity that claim to support and represent the interest of corporate businesses and like the American people. However, those same corporate bodies have gone to say that this group does not represent their interest. They mostly peddle big oil, big pharma, big farming in general. They're definitely not for the little guy, and they really try their best to make sure that the little guy, so like us, don't get nearly like enough success in trying to push different policies, like climate policy in particular, something that they're really against, which is why I am particularly interested in this and why most people are interested. So, it is a group mostly comprised of college students. We do a lot of our work on social media because that is one of the best organizing tools that we've ever created as a species. And I mean, we're all on it all the time anyway. So, if you're going to be on it, you can really do some big change and educate yourself, learn more about these different groups, and really just be a part of something that is bigger than yourself. And I mean, it may not feel like you're doing that much, but you do a lot when you go on there and you engage with these different platforms. So, the Twitter is Change US Chamber, which will be somewhere here, as well as the Instagram and the Facebook. You can get involved just by engaging with social media and our social media in particular. We do a lot of calls with different corporate groups like Coca-Cola for instance. So, you could also potentially be a part of that, just see what it's like communicating with these corporate businesses I mean, they are extremely important and foundational to the society that we've built at this point. So, they are definitely an entity that you want to familiarize yourself with and learn how to communicate with, because it's important. So, yeah, I mean, it's just like the group is amazing. They work so hard, they do so much, and they really need your support and helping them spread their message of what is happening behind closed doors. And so, you think, and I feel, too, that you're saying that you'd like to see more high school kids get involved in these projects. So, yeah, we're going to have it all up on the screen for them to see and listen to how they can get involved. But, yeah, this is their world, in the middle school, high school, it was your guys, kind of still is your world, you know, college students. Now, it's people younger than you, you know. They really got to hear their ideas and their suggestions and get them involved. And some of them don't even know nothing about this stuff, but that's the smart thing about it. It's like, you know, get involved in our arts and music programs and get involved in, like your B program and legislative stuff, you know, education, you know, education. They don't know, they're smart, they're real smart, but some things they don't know about, and also what they don't know is that they can get involved in these things. And we want them to. It's important that they do. I mean, man. So, you know, also we work with Veronica. I want to talk a little bit about that. We're on the climate group. The group, she's put the high school students about, I know, she want to do something with climate, you know, talk about educational environment and talk about environmental stuff, how can we make the world better, how can we do it? And this kid, Veronica, is only 14. She's a freshman. She got this team, it was out there doing the murals. And they got this, she got this team, they're all freshmen, they're brothers in high school. How wonderful was that? She was saying, I was telling Kaylee, and maybe you too, that she was using environmental words. She was like, what can you explain that to me? Like, I was thinking, please explain that to me. What's that mean, you know? Wow, so I'm so happy that we're working with them. Both of us have been working with her and our group. I forget the name of her, I forget the name of the group, the climate change for youth or something like that. But they'll be hearing a lot about it because we're going to put her right up on the central level. We're going to come down to work with these young kids. I'm proud of her, you know, for just coming to us because she learned about us and people hear about us and they're like, yeah, email me or how can I get involved? Just say it, you're involved. Yeah, that's what I did. I am. How did you get involved? You just did it. I am. I just saw the Instagram page. That's good because that's important because we want everybody involved too because I just want to say that our so wonderful is a program of Service Rendered Incorporated and Service Rendered Incorporated have all these programs underneath it and we have over 50 awards and we pride ourselves on education. We're education around drugs, knock-off tobacco and we do all this. We have a music program, an art program. Now we've got an environmental program and we do murals everywhere. We have 60% of the murals everywhere and our whole thing is about how can we get people involved. We want all of you involved too. We have an incredible network of individuals who we work with. Even if you don't do what we're doing that even if you don't do what we're doing in our programs we know somebody who's doing it so don't hesitate to contact us. That's how we are famous. That's how we are famous on the things we do and have over 50 awards. Bruce Wilson don't have 50 awards because the people who I serve have 50 awards. People like Katelyn and Alex who helps us with these awards give these awards. We know the best we know the people who do all the work if you want to be a ballerina we know that person if you want to be a congressman we know Bernie. Yeah, you read Bernie's letter right there. Bernie sent us a letter on our grand opening for August 21st and Alex read the letter she read the letter from Bernie so we know Bernie we know Lane we know governor, mayors businessman they're all our friends they support our programs we're very happy we weren't able to do none of this stuff without them having two art galleries and tons of programs and community events and free events everywhere and so we weren't able to do it without people like you and our constituent peers around the state of Vermont so contact us you can contact us you can contact me Bruce Wilson 817 at TML.com how simple is that and I'll get back with you in a second so I don't know what time we got how much time we got about 40 minutes okay that was a hurting thought how much time we got hurting thoughts should we choose them go right here go ahead Alex you are go ahead with your party talks what? I don't know it was great to talk with you guys it's a beautiful day in the park battery park yeah yeah cool opportunity thanks for coming with us cool thank you because like I just said none of this could be done without you I serve you you don't serve me some people think that you should serve them but not me everything I do is I serve everybody I work for so thank you that's what's so wonderful we're so wonderful at art so wonderful go ahead Kelly give us some parting words yeah I think this is a really good example of so I just walked into Bruce's gallery with like zero expectations of anything so we are presented with so many different opportunities in our lives you just need to turn the knob and open that door yeah so just don't be afraid if you feel like you want to make these connections like I mean they're all around you all the time you just need to open your eyes and kind of see that these opportunities are here for you yeah so just I don't know if you feel like you can't do something that's crazy just do it and you're going to have crazy results that you probably couldn't even imagine that you have so those are my parting words cool well said well said well just want to thank my wonderful guests Alex both and Katelyn Williams for being on our show yeah and you can be hosting your own day because somebody's going to do a radio show I mean I forget both of y'all are somebody the radio station the radio show we're going to be doing oh yeah oh yeah it's going to be Alex both and Katelyn Bumbo B show with Bruce so we look for our radio show covering up too and we're going to be doing more of these cable shows like the one hopefully you too will do your set one and like you definitely need to do one for a beat project and you definitely need to do one for the real project and we'll set it up just let me know when you're ready to do it so thank you everyone for tuning in to the arts so wonderful show I'm Bruce Wilson have a good evening