 Hi, I'm Kari Shi, CEO and co-founder of Ostream. I'm here at the OkDubu representing some of the AI technologies that they're known for. OkDubu is also very well known for the Rock series of products that represent a very high availability in terms of supply chain and very competitive price points and features to the Raspberry Pi series. What's the latest with the Rock? The Rock 5B is the latest. Let's get over here. Yeah, it's Quad Cortex A76. It's got a six top NPU and loaded with IO and everything you'd want for... 2588. That is correct. Alright, so it's the latest of the Rock chips? The Rock chips which are just right there. So it's your partners. That is correct, yes. And then over here we've got actually one of the first Rock chip AI neural processors being used for media. So this is the Pipe Runner RKAI. So this is a three tops accelerator with a PoE power so you can do camera applications. Nice. And then this is the... Yeah, this is the Pipe Runner Envi by OkDubu. This is featuring the NVIDIA ORAN series. So right here is an 8X cluster featuring up to 800 trillion operations per second, all in one system. That sounds like a lot. It is a lot and it's nice to be able to go from pilot to production with one module up to eight. And it features a whole host of software that makes it easy to deploy your models. Can we look at some of the more of the Rock there? Are you saying it's partnered? What's up? Is it all one company or you have different... So OkDubu is part of the RS group and RS components that you may have heard. So it's a sister company that acts as the kind of agile front end to do the single board computers. So you have colleagues working on the Rock? Yes. Yeah. What do we get? Let's see if you want to come in for talk about the Rock. Yeah, sure. Yeah, so we were looking at this one. This is the latest one. Yep. This is a high demand. Yes it is. A lot of people want to play with that one? Yes. Work with it? So it's four, eight and sixteen gigs of memory and it has some fantastic features. So 8K monitor support. So it's got like an 8K HDMI port support. There's more than one HDMI. So you can have 8K on one and you can have 4K on another. You can also have a dedicated HDMI input as well. Through the Type-C? Type-C, yeah. No, that's a micro HDMI. Yes. So you can micro HDMI input. For input. For input. 4K camera input. Direct. 4K 30 I guess. Yes. All right. At the same time and you can capture that in the mix. You can capture the 4K source or in Android or something. In Linux I know, don't know about the Android. Three different operating system choices between Yachto and Debian and Ubuntu. They're very nicely supported? Yeah, I'd say so. The Rock family is becoming like the up and comer against Raspberry Pi. We represent lots of boards, so we love them all. But I think you're going to find that the Rock chip availability and the price point are what makes it stand out so powerfully. How many have you sold so far? I'm joking but you don't have to say it. Do you have a lot? Are you able to supply it to everybody who wants one? Yes we are. And the demand is high. I mean, people come to us for different functions on here around Wi-Fi, Bluetooth modules that you can plug in through an M2. On the back of the board you've got a full size SSD slot for M2 as well. And then a EMMC module, you can boot off and those can be 8, 16, 32, 64. How much is it cost to add the Bluetooth Wi-Fi? It's not on? You can get them for £6 but you can buy better ones and so you can use the very latest one for I think £10. Wi-Fi 6. Wi-Fi 6 I think is £13. Maybe you get Matter also and all this, whatever you want to play with. There's a software download for the existing RF transmitters that are on there. Nice. That's cool. And there's a Rock 4A right here. Rock 5A. Oh 5A, sorry. So this is in production, we're selling this. You're selling and it looks bigger if you compare the size. So this is the same form factor as a Raspberry Pi 4, has the same ports as a Raspberry Pi 4 but this has a 3588 processor on. Yes. The only difference is no capture of the video, right? It doesn't have a direct 4K input. Functionally, I don't know how you would do it, you'd probably do it through USB to get the source in. It has the same GPU and the slightly different CPU on the board. And you also ship with different RAMs? This one will ship with different RAMs, 4, 8 and 16 and it will be available in April. And the 16 is not too expensive? Do you have prices on all these boards? Not off the top of my head. Okay, but maybe it's a great price for powerful boards. So this is very powerful for the price point and the size, the form factor. Are we talking less than 100? So the 5B is 159 on the website. 159? Yeah. For that one? Yeah. And that's with maybe 8GB of RAM or something? I think so. And then this one could be lower, right? It's supposed to be more affordable. Yeah, it is. So the most standard one people are buying now is the ROC4 as you can see available in stock, 69 US, very competitive, the Raspberry Pi and the others. That's the ROC4 on the... Yeah. So the nice thing is while other boards are sort of stopping with the classic 3, 4 hierarchy, ROC is already moving on to 5, we got the AI boards, we've got NVIDIA ORAN, so it's going to be a nice roadmap. Nice. Actually, there's a big community for these, right? Yeah. How big? Can you say? Is it tens of thousands of people? I think it's more than that if you talk about the collective knowledge of like operating system hounds, right? So people usually kind of populate around an operating system and certain like tool chains and different like accessories. So there's a lot of overlap between say like a Raspberry Pi, Beagle, ROC. And so a lot of that knowledge is transferred pretty well. And you're going to see operating systems in general have so much support that transferring from maybe a different type of board to a ROC is done with great ease. How good is GPU acceleration in Linux? So I think that's a complicated question because it depends what you're doing. If you're talking about like using Mali or something, I think people are more familiar with taking something like NVIDIA Jetson or you can look at like the ORAN class devices that we have. All right. So that's a work in progress. The whole panfrost drivers and everything. You're talking about graphical acceleration. I think the support is quite good. If you're talking about AI like neural processing and that sort of thing, I think it's a different conversation. And you tend to go to devices that are more purpose built like the OKDU Pipe Runner RKAI board. And behind you, there was a bunch of other boards up there or? Yeah. So we're distributors for, so the DeBix, which is an industrial, industrial single board computer again in a Raspberry Pi form factor. Has great IO, has great temperature ranges and strong processor and memory capabilities. But in a form factor that people are used to. And then we've got the... Asus? Yes. Tinkerboards. Tinkerboards. And so different versions, different flavours of those. Why does Asus put such a big, what's it called, cooler? Eating and fan. Because they used to doing Intel stuff. They get it over to the arm too. But you don't necessarily need it, right? You can have just run like this. And it's not going to get too hot. These ratchets, right? Yeah. The ratchets do not require that. Yeah. All right. So what more you can show, you want to show here at your booth, what is the biggest topic that people want to talk with you about? I think we should talk about your topic. Oh, sure. Yeah. I think AI is becoming a very... We've talked about conversation, we're at Embedded World, so there's a lot of boards with AI chips, right? But actually what applications you can do with it is very tricky. So what we're showing here is the NVIDIA Oren pipe runner. And with the software that comes with it, you'll see we're doing pose detection at 250 frames per second. The amazing thing about it is, if you're familiar with AI computer vision, you're wanting to look at OpenCV, Gstreamer, Deepstream, a lot of complexity. So we're bundled the software that gives you the best of all that you'd want to try with, let's say, an NVIDIA stack, but you can do it graphically and enjoy it all from a web-based experience. Cool. All right. And when you're looking at these on the wall there, what is running there? So this is also showing the development kit for Oren. So this goes from the AGX down to the Oren Nano. So you can emulate any of them. This is actually 275 trillion operations. But you really only buy this if you wanted to experience the maximum performance from a development tool chain. Nice. And stuff happening over here also? Ule. We don't have much... Ule. Would you mind talking a little bit about this to this nice gentleman? Yeah. All right. Cool. Thanks. Sorry for interrupting. So what are you showing here on the wall? Over here. Oh, here. Yeah. Right there? Yeah. So what do you want to do here? Yeah. You want to do it like you asked questions. So what do we see here? Okay. Yeah. What we see here is actually three different things. It's to showcase the prices you could win in our competition. It's a SDR Play software-defined radio. It's a Qoitec ACE Pro. It's a power analyzer. And it's a picoscope. So it's an oscilloscope with a digital IOS as well. So if you go up here, the first window here you have up here. That is to show some thing what the power analyzer can do. So here we are just showing the output of it. That is the powering this rockboard who is down here. And we are seeing the voltage. And we are seeing the current over time. The main feature of this is you can capture very precisely, very high definition, the power envelope, or what you say exactly what's going on with the board. And you can share this and you can compare it and see if there's changes. If you're changing some hardware, changing software, seeing what it affects on your overall power envelope. The next window we have down here. Some of it I could just try highlighted. Here that is a spectrum analyzer app who is running on a software-defined radio. Right here I have it about the ISM band, 886, just seeing what's going around. And what you can see here is some of the free radio signals coming in. It's a super neat little piece of software hardware to see what's going on in the area, in the aerospace. And the last thing we have is just the overview of the picoscope. I'm not doing anything specific. I'm just taking the square signal out. Are you like distributing? We are distributing and we are manufacturing. Right here this one we are just distributing but we are also manufacturing the drop balls. We are running factoring. In Denmark? No, not in Denmark. So that's manufactured in China, right? Yeah, it's manufactured in China and some in UK as well. So we have different places. Do you distribute all over Europe? Global. Worldwide distribution. So you are OK-do? Yeah. All right, cool. And here's a bunch of Arduino. Yeah, it's just Arduino because we are not tied to one single SPC. We try to have a broad range of things, whatever people would like and what we can see an idea in having in our offer. Cool, all right. Thanks a lot. You're welcome, sir. OK, thanks. Thanks so much. Cool, thanks for the tour. Yeah. OK, thanks.