 Hello, everyone. My name is Helena Connor. I am a principal researcher here at IID working on climate finance. I am very much looking forward to the discussion this morning. I think this discussion will hopefully build on some of the conversations people were in yesterday around financing locally led adaptation, But also provide us with some opportunity to take some of the elements that we hear much of and look at more detail in particular around the issues of partnership for LLA, which I'll come back to. Perhaps, what I'll do to start with is I would say please do introduce yourselves in the chat function. I would like to before we go into anything else just to do a quick run-through of the housekeeping while we are in Zoom. First of all, just to let you know that this meeting is being recorded, so please be aware of that. If you notice any on-towards or inappropriate chats coming through in the chat function, please do let somebody know. You can send me a message directly if there is any problem. Obviously, we are conscious that sometimes these events do get hijacked or zoomed jacked or whatever the correct phrases. So, please do report that. Also, just ask everyone to keep themselves on mute unless they are presenting. When you go into the breakout rooms later, your microphone should automatically work so that you can contribute to those discussions. Again, if you have any problem, please do let myself know or one of the IID team. We're really looking forward to the conversations this morning. We will have, as I said, we will have breakout rooms, so we're really keen to get your interaction and your comments and questions to the panel. So, with no further ado, perhaps what I'll do is just give us all a headline as to why we're here today. What is the session that we're looking at? And I suppose to say it very briefly, we're really interested in this question about how do we take the investment, the support for local adaptation and really scale that up. And we want to really focus today on understanding what the potential role is of partnerships in doing this. So, how is it that different actors, whether it's grassroots organisations, whether it's public funds of LNA, can work together to deliver LNA at scale? What examples are there already of good partnerships? Why did they work and what is it within those that we can take for others to take forward and scale up? You'll hear from colleagues from various different organisations and countries reflecting on some of their experiences. And then we'll provide an opportunity to use some breakout ribs to hear from you to talk through and hopefully identify a few practical steps which could be taken by, by this community, by the LNA border community, by different actors over the next 12 months to really try and take LNA forward. So, we're really looking forward to this discussion this morning. And I'd like to thank all the speakers in advance for their time. Before I move to introduce the first set of speakers, I'd like to start with a question which we're going to put in the chat, in the chat. And we're going to take this as an approach of a chat shower, which essentially means we're going to put a chat question in the chat. Sorry, repetition of the word chat there. We're going to put a question in the chat. And then when I say go, I'd like everybody to type in a short answer to that question. What we'll do is we'll come back to some of your answers throughout the course of the morning and use it when we get to the plenary discussion as well. So we're going to ask Mae to put the question into the chat. So if I can encourage everyone to have a look at the chat. And then once the question goes in, I will say, I will give you all maybe a minute to consider your answer to the question. And then I will say go and I'd like you to press return and send your answer to the question to the chat. So I'm just waiting to see the chat message go in. Oh, it's there. I got too excited actually about the question, so it's already in the chat. So if you can see the question is, what are the principles of a good partnership that could promote locally led adaptation? So are you ready? Are you ready? Steady? Please enter your answer now. Fantastic. I can see lots of answers coming through. We've got some elements of trust there, collaboration, local ownership. There was something else I saw. Yes, equality and mutual accountability. So some really great and very short. Thank you very much answers to that question. That is fantastic. We'll come back to some of these, I think, throughout the course of the morning. And please do encourage you to take a look at some of the responses there. In the meantime, I want to do two things. Firstly, I'd like to introduce Josh Agada from South South North, who is going to be our overall moderator for the rest of the session. So a huge thanks to Josh. He will take forward after our opening remarks from our two speakers. He will move us forward into a panel discussion. So with no further ado, please can I firstly turn the floor to Kilian and Nysera from SDI, who are going to give some perspectives from the ground as to how LLA is being used in practice. So over to you please, Kilian and Nysera. Yes, good morning. I'm Kilian Nyambugang. I'm an Abban and Regional Planner and also a climate change student working with SLAMDELAS International based in Nairobi as a program officer here in Nairobi. And I'm supporting the Kenyan Federation of SLAMDELAS called Munganoana Vijijin. So I'm here with my colleague Nysera. I think she can introduce herself. Good morning to all of you. My name is Nysera and I am a Federation leader Munganoana Vijijin Kenya and I live in the informal settlement of the SRAMS and I'm happy to be here. And Kilian Nyambugang will be doing the presentation as we open in half ten minutes. So Kilian, just take over. Okay, thank you very much once again. So I'll just be taking you through some of the experiences that we have working with the different communities. And most particularly addressing the issue of climate change in different communities. So as I mentioned, I work with SLAMDELAS International, which offers technical support to the SLAMDELAS Federation called Munganoana Vijijin. And the main vision is to see inclusive cities where the low income communities have adequate access to housing and services and can live with dignity. And some of the tools that then we use in this engagement include policy advocacy and dialogue with different partners, including the government. And also data that has been collected and generated by communities and also through integrated settlement planning. And I wanted to take us through what the experiences in the informal settlement. For those who have not experienced them, whatever we are dealing with so that we are able to understand our perspective. So we have the informal settlements that are characterized by poor housing infrastructure structures and mostly very dense. And to some extent we find a level of 240 houses occupying just one piece of land. And one other thing is that we have inadequate access to basic services such as water and sanitation in those areas. And also in most cases because of also the densities and also the demand for space in the urban setup. They often lack basic amenities such as education schools, health facilities and also recreation spaces. And most of these settlements are actually located on fragile areas of the city, mostly low land areas, some on the quarry and also some along the, mostly along the river. And some of the things that we're dealing with include issues of land tenure. So we're looking at how then do we address land issues in these communities and also address issues to do with the access to basic services. And just in into perspective, these are some of the photos that shows some of the conditions in some of the settlements. Some having even reclaimed part of the riparian land and constructed housing structures because there is high demand for land in the urban setup. And we're also seeing the issue to do the challenge, the solid waste management challenge, where they dump their solid waste into the river, into the river, therefore affecting even the water bodies in the urban setup. And when we talk about the climate impact, whenever it rained in most of the settlement because of the virtue of where they are located, we find some of them are actually, most of them are actually affected by floods. So this often cause displacement and with communities with the low level to adapt to these continuous impacts of climate change. In some cases, then this has also resulted into disease outbreak in different communities as this water runs through the open rain ages, which are often not well maintained. And run into the into the houses and causing a lot of resulting in disease outbreak. And what I also wanted to share now is now the lesson that we've learned just with the two years having now been actively engaging on the climate change agenda. One of the things that SDI Kenya did, we facilitated mapping and profiling of over 500 local climate action groups in low income areas across three counties. So that is Nairobi, Nakuru County and also Kisumo. And these are mostly community based organization. They are some of them are youth groups, some of them women groups and majority being unregistered and therefore lacking the capacity to access available climate change financing. However, what we found out is that these local climate action groups have demonstrated the ability to mobilize labor and they are also mobilized resources to contribute to climate action at the local level as we will see in the next few slides. So in this we can see a group dealing on waste and rights from addressing the issues of the challenge of waste by youth groups being able to collect the waste. Some of them being able to sort the waste and also transform that waste into things into commodities that either they can use in the different settlements and those that also they can sell and also get income out of it. And we also seeing some intervention and food production youth appreciating and embracing technology in the food production. As we can see from one of the photos where the hydrophonics has been used in the food production in one of the communities and also where they have been able to utilize the small space within the community available within the community to be able to plant their veggies and also to produce their own tomatoes in their different settlements. Apart from that we can also see interventions, rehabilitation of public spaces or open spaces and this being done by the groups themselves and they have been able to transform the group into areas that communities can use for recreation and very beautiful places that can also be used by community for community meetings and so on. Lastly, I wanted also to share a story around the reclamation or rehabilitation of the riparian self. So one of the groups in Nairobi called Comprin Solution, we can see their work right from the year 2018 when they started transforming this riparian reserve from where there were a lot of solid waste along the river and also into with just within the river itself. Into, into this beautiful recreational spaces and also parks that have benefits to the community can be used by the community for recreation and also is an addition of carbon sink within the city itself. Apart from that we have also witnessed groups or local groups or communities trying to imagine a different future from what is existing in the community and we can see one of these from this photo that we are presenting here. A community, a group in Kibera presenting what is existing right on the right side with the river very polluted with a lot of pollution coming from the neighboring community to their desired future where they want the river to be transformed into a clean and in the clean ecosystem. And apart from this, then we are also looking at most of bringing in some of the lessons that also we've learned working with the different communities and communities being at the center of facilitating adaptation through planning approach. And one of the things one of the things that we're seeing in this process is communities being able to collect their own data and communities being able to identify their own adaptation needs using the evidence that they generate themselves and using those. Using those needs then communities are able to with the different professionals and also the government being able to co design and plan and prioritize projects that then are supposed to be implemented to ensure that the benefit is experienced at scale. And one of the things that is lacking in this whole process is more on how do we then how do we actually assure that plans and priority priority projects generated by communities are actually implemented. So that can actually be filled by the climate, the adaptation fund, the climate financing that can flow to the local communities for the implementation of those projects. And just showing one of the projects that the federation actually the federation facilitated in in mwcuru one of the settlement in Nairobi. Right from the dreaming process that right from the data collection process community dreaming with the profession and also the county and also being able to generate their own plan, the spatial plan that contributes to adapt adaptation to the project. Adaptation climate adaptation at the local level. So one of the, as I mentioned, what is existing is how do how do we ensure that the sustainable financing for locally led actions or priorities that are generated by the community. So that will be the end of my presentation. Thank you. Thank you very much, Kylian, for that. Kylian, and to you, Nisera, as well for that presentation. I think it is already emerging from the presentation that you've given the importance of the involvement of local groups. You also talked about, you know, the issue of sustainability. So where groups involved can generate some income that is also hugely important. But again, at the end, you talked about having communities at the center and in terms of the involvement, you know, the issue of them being able to collect their own data and to identify their needs. So basically involving communities right from the start and kind of to segue out of that and probably go state into a panel discussion. We are very privileged today to have with us a number of panellists. We've got Dr. Bimel Rajregmi, who is a member of the National Environmental Protection and Climate Change Management Council from the Government of Nepal. Thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Bimel. We've also got Esperanza Karao from the Adaptation Consortium. Thank you for joining us. We've got Ian Matimba from SLAMDwellers International in Zambia and Celine de Cruz, who's a visiting scholar from the International Centre for Climate Change and Development. A warm welcome to all of you. Now there are a couple of questions that we would like to discuss together and I would also encourage that if there are any questions emerging from the audience during the time that we are addressing these questions, please pop them in the chat. We do have quite a limited time, so we do want to make the most of it. However, in the context of this, there are a couple of issues that we would like to focus on. And if you don't mind, Dr. Bimel, I will start with you as the Government of Nepal has endorsed the LLA principles to understand from you why this step was taken, this important step was taken by the Government of Nepal. And what three, two to three things would you identify that happened in the lead up to the adoption that enabled it to be a success in your country? Maybe some thoughts from you, quick interventions. Thank you. Thank you so much, organisers. So I'm really privileged to speak on behalf of the Government of Nepal. Today is a festival day for Nepal. So our Government delegates are on leave and they are in remote villages. So apology for them, from them in terms of not really virtually attending because of internet issues. So I'll just begin. So you know that Nepal is a pioneer in local alert adaptation. So the Government endorsed local adaptation plan of action framework in 2011 and started to implement LAPAs. So this is why the Government want to really endorse LAPAs, LLA principles because they are the lead. So Nepal's governance structure for the community-based approaches align with LLA principles. So all the principles are aligned with the community-based approaches, the decentralisation and the leadership of local institutions that the Government of Nepal, which has a history of promoting community-led management, mostly management of forest water resources and natural resources. So it is already nested in the approaches and the principles of LLA. The third one is there is a stronger commitment for addressing local risk and vulnerability. So the Government remain content with decentralising resources, capacity to promote local leadership in promoting climate change adaptation. So this is why endorsing LLA means a lot and an entry point for the Government of Nepal. So another is that we realise that LLA is a strong entry point for reaching the unreachables, mostly women, children, elderly, disabled, small holders, indigenous people, ethnic groups, poor and people living in remote areas. Our new constitution, which is endorsed in 2015, is favourable for LLA. It really emphasises on poor principles of devolution and decentralisation, more autonomy of local governments in making right choices and decisions so that are favourable for promoting local leadership adaptation. And the final one, which the Government of Nepal thinks they have to align with LLA is we really wanted to work closely with diverse government and stakeholders. The intention is to exchange information knowledge. So we thought that aligning with LLA is an opportunity to engage with regional global stakeholders for exchange of information knowledge. Can we go to the next slide please? Okay. So we think there are a few success factors. So one is Nepal has taken significant steps in the implementation of local adaptation initiatives since 2011. So it is basically devolving decision making to the lowest level and encouraging local leadership, particularly leadership of community based organisations to address some of the local issues, including the risk and vulnerability caused by climate change. Second is there has been a significant progress in Nepal in terms of scaling up LAPAs and LLAs. So the government has envisioned scaling up in all the seven provinces, 753 local governments across different tiers of government, both vertical and horizontal. And another interesting thing that acted as success is the decentralized and trickle down financing to the local level, mostly the legal provisions of it, ensuring 80% of the resources goes to the implementation of adaptation action on the ground. That is another success factor. We also use different innovative mechanism in terms of really targeting the most vulnerable. So the categorisation of vulnerability is one of the criteria for selecting the target. Parlicaz and target communities. Another one is the collaborative approach because it is a joint collaborative efforts of the federal government, the provincial government, development agencies, local government, communities, community based organisation, international, national, non-government organisation. And another important success factor is the vibrant institutional mechanism that exists in Nepal, which can really observe resources and trickle down financing. So these are some of the success factors. So there is a last slide. I just want to wrap up my presentation. So the three things that enable the success is one is among the importance, one is decentralized financing, the policy provision of 80%. Second is local leadership and ownership of LAPAS and LLAs at the local level, which are driven by community forest user groups or community based organisation and local government. And the focus on the most vulnerable through various innovative instruments that the government of Nepal which support from NGOs, INUs and development agencies. So we are really pleased to really endorse LLA and we really want to partner with global communities to really promote LLAs in the future. Thank you so much. Thank you very much, Dr Beymol. That was very comprehensive. I think it is quite impressive to see how closely the LLA principles align with the principles of community development as well as the devolution approach that the government of Nepal has taken. Just to hear some reflections from UEN, slum dwellers international at Zambia. We heard from Killian earlier on around the work that's going on in Kenya. What examples of good practice are emerging from your side, from Zambia for example? All right. Once again, good morning to you all. My name is Yma Kimbar. I work with the Zambia international at the program officer. I think Killian has already given direction of how we work as an organisation at the SPI with the communities in Zambia. We work with Zambia Homeless and Poor People's Federation into the grassroots movement. I think our work actually has already been incorporating some of these principles that we are talking about today. I think to be more specific, I will refer to one of our local aid adaptation, the climate solution that will actually incorporate these principles in a settlement called Kanyama. It's one of the biggest ones in Zambia which people have to be in the form of settlement. In this particular community, we realise that there are all sort of squalor conditions and bad characteristics of a settlement that you can think of, lack of housing, flooding, all kinds of impacts that are affecting that particular settlement. But from our end, as SDI Zambia, we managed to come together with the communities, we do mapping with them, which actually enables them to be able to understand, which is one of the principles to understand all the climate impacts that are in their communities and own that data and be able to load using it. And also be able to be able to hold duty bearers accountable and also demand that their priorities are taken into consideration. So having the community being able to collect data and analyse the communities, what's around them, what are the issues that they want to, what kind of people are in the communities that are normally not involved in decision making. It enables us to be able to cater for everyone to come up with a framework that actually speaks to the needs of all community members that are in that particular settlement. So in Kanyama, we ended up doing a green space, actually two green spaces that are locally led, that are locally managed and locally owned by the community themselves. So we realised that in that regard, through the data that we had, we sat down and came up with these designs for that particular green space, which actually is now a centre where we do the secular economy recycling, recycling and the community actually have a green life there through selling of trees and also producing trees as well as gas that can be used for them to cook at a household level in that community. So in that regard, we have seen that building the capacity of the grass with themselves to be able to actually put or to scale up their local intervention that they've been doing at household level. It's also very important in as much as we look at having predictable financing, we also need to ensure that the community themselves, they are prepared and be able to actually not just accessing the funds but actually being utilising it and scale up intervention. So we have been there to actually be there to provide technical backstopping and do the recapacity of the grass to be able to manage the facilities and scale it up as well as. So it was a process where the community leads the process and as we are there back there at the background and just providing that technical backstopping. So from our end, I think our experience has been that the data was very key in actually being able to bring the community together, making them aware of the climate impact other than their communities. The community also building community at their capacity in line with what their priorities are was also key in ensuring that we have a sustainability was the project has ended, but up to now they're still ongoing. They are producing a number of trees. They are being liquid fertiliser to the black soil fly a number of innovations that are coming up and the goodness with this approach is that we have been able now to actually attract other people who normally don't support such groups. Like the government should be able to reflect on housing development in Zambia has actually dedicated some funds to support their livelihood, those specific women and also try to scale up the Sac Garden initiatives in that particular settlement to about 1000 Sac Gardens in that settlement. So. Okay, just a quick 30 seconds for you to wrap up so I can move to Esperance as well. I'm just watching time. All right, yeah, I think that's pretty much it. So I think practices for us is being able to actually champion communities to be able to be the change that they want to and also utilize their resources to leverage for more support from other external funders. Thank you. Thank you so much Ian for that Esperanza. Can I come to you from the perspective of the idea consortium? What do you see merging as good examples of good practice that you might share with us briefly? Thank you, Josh. Please allow me to just have my video off because I'm in a remote place. No problem at all. Please go ahead. So I'm going to speak about the CCF mechanism, or rather known as the county climate mechanism, which is developed in partnership with international partners like IED, Christian Aid and national government partners in Kenya. KMD, Canyon Met, Development, Council of Governors, National Drug Management Authority, and also implementing partners which are local NGOs like ALDEF, ADS, Anglican Development Services. So the mechanism basically in terms of good practice in LLA, it's more of a model of devolved climate finance and it seeks to mainstream climate change in governments, sub-national governments in planning and development. And basically, the central pillar of the CCF mechanism is at the world level, which is the lowest administrative level in Kenya. And in this level, you find that the institution that is established at that structure, which is locally known as the World Climate Change Planning Committee, it seats membership of different various community groups including men, women, people living with disabilities, local, public, non-governmental NGOs, and even faith-based organisations. And the principles that the CCF mechanism has been applying in particular are inclusion, because having been rather established in the legislations at the county level, it means that it provides that these various groups of communities are able to sit in this, which enhances inclusion and planning and decision-making of the climate finance that is appropriated annually by the sub-national government or counties. And the other principle is more community-driven bottom-up planning, because one thing is that the climate finance is communicated to the community level institution and they are informed how much money is being allocated in their ward. So they are able to plan real-time with this, and they are able also to prioritise, identify, and even rank which interventions or which climate investments they'd like to see. So for them, they're able to really, once the investment is identified, they're able to focus on public goods. And what keeps the CCCF sustainable is that, one, it's enacted through the legislation, the County Climate Change Act, and also the regulatory frameworks. And then we have seen the Kenyan government, the political goodwill by the Kenyan government to scale out the CCF mechanism through the national climate change funds. So we can see that when there's political goodwill, it means in terms of sustainability, the counties are able to appropriate the funding to the climate funds, and it's able to flow to the community through the CCF mechanism that is from the National Climate Fund to the County Climate Change Fund, and then now from the County Climate Change Fund it goes to fund the investments that have been prioritised by the community. Just 30 seconds more please. Okay. Just to note that on locally led adaptation and the climate investments that are prioritised by the community, we find that based borrowing from the pilot counties where it was first tested, until dates, rather seven years, eight years down the line after doing a study to evaluate the functionality and governance of these investments, we find there's quite good ownership of the climate investments by the community, and 80% of those are still working, so it's just a proven mechanism, and we are happy that the government is now able to actually flow the finance from the National Climate Fund all the way to the community. Thank you. Thank you so much Esperanza. I do apologise for rushing you. We have a very short time, and there will also be time to reflect a little bit more, especially in the breakout groups. I hope those will be quite vibrant, but I didn't want to end this session without having a chance to hear from you, Salin, from Iqad maybe to reflect a little bit about good practice in LLA things that you're seeing that are contributing to success. Flores, yours for the next three minutes please. Thank you, Josh. I'll be wearing two hats, Iqad, and I'm a founder member of Slum Dwellers International, and in the last three years I'm not a climate expert, but I've been spreading this road between development and adaptation, and trying to understand what it is, and my sense is that good development actually includes adaptation, and bad development creates more maladaptation, and creates more headaches for the community, and therefore as NGOs and as intervening organisations and changing agencies, it's our responsibility to make sure that we don't propagate this issue of creating another construction programme or another building programme without really paying attention to what consequences it has for the environment, and the Pakistan example is a good example of that. On a quick note, I really want to talk about the example of the Urban Poor Federation in Uganda. So that is a story that actually shows the relationship between funders, national government, universities, local slum dwellers federations to actually and urban development professionals who come together on the same platform to solve their problems. So the Gates Foundation did a very interesting thing. They gave money to each of these parties. So this is how the finance was structured and which was very powerful. So everybody had an equal place at the table, both from the slum dwellers at the community level to the national government person, and together they prioritised which projects. They had an institutional arrangement at the settlement level, which they call the settlement forum, then they had the city forum and they had a national forum for policies. But at all three levels, you had slum dwellers sitting at these boards. So what was most important is how the finance was structured and how the funder actually allocated finances to different parties and got them accountable to each other. And I think this is important because most of us kind of just think, oh, you give money to the poor and they are saints in heaven, and everything is going to go well. And our own experience shows us that's not true. That all of us as human beings have our frailty and it doesn't matter whether you're the president of a country or a slum dweller, we operate in the same way when there is money and power involved. And so what are the mechanisms to funders need to keep in mind to be able to balance the accountability measures even between NGOs and poor communities. So the three lessons from Uganda is one, that there was an organized group of urban poor communities that call themselves the Urban Poor Federation of Uganda in place. So it was easier for the funder and external agencies and government to relate to them. Similarly, it was easy for the community because they were organized to deal with this whole setup. So that investment in building communities from within is very crucial. The second point was that this relationship was institutionalized through the funding mechanism by giving everybody a piece of the pie. You got everybody to the table and you created that space for an equal relationship that allowed them to talk to each other. Others, if you just gave money to national government, they were never going to bring poor communities to the table. So similarly, if you just gave money to the poor communities, they don't know how to begin to engage with the national government. So I think that was important, that strategic location of finance. And third, what was important was the lesson that we learned from what didn't work because once the project was closed, everything shut down. So while the communities were empowered and they were able to do all of this when the project was closed, everything was shut down. So there's an important lesson there's how do we not just projectify some of these things, but actually think long term and think of how we want to really bridge the vulnerability gap. And if it doesn't work for the bottom 10%, it's not going to work for the better off among the urban poor. Thank you so much, Selene, for your really, really important interventions. And good to see you again. I remember we were together in a session, I think it was for the Gorbash in a conference. Very nice to see you again and to hear you once more. We are, as I look at the time, we are galloping along in terms of time. I didn't want to take too much time away from the breakout room discussions. It is now time for us to break up. We're going to be breaking up into two different group sessions. One of which will be moderated by, will be led by Helen and the other will be led by Alpha. Let me just pull up the questions very quickly that I want us to reflect on. We will have about 25 to 30 minutes during this time. Let me just find my question. Sorry, my chat is, there's quite a lot of chat going on, which is excellent. It just means that sometimes I have to scroll to. We can post it Josh for you. We'll post it as a chat now. Excellent. Okay, if you post it in the chat for now, then that would be good. So what we'd like to do is to focus on these two questions, but also please reflect back on what you've heard from our panelists so that this is kind of a seamless continuous discussion. We will have between 25 and 30 minutes. So we'd very much like that when you get about the 20 minute mark, you start tying your discussion together. I'm sure the lead facilitators in both groups will be more than able to do that because what we'd like to do is take a quick 10 minutes. When we get back in at about 10, 15 or 9, 15 or 11, 15 where you are, but in the next 30 minutes to give a quick feedback on what the discussions that emerge from your groups are. So the two questions are building on the panel discussion or using your own example. So this is where we would like you as respective organisations to really bring and reach the discussion by bringing in your perspectives. What are the opportunities for partnership to deliver locally led adaptation and who needs to do what who is responsible to play what role in creating those partnerships build creating those opportunities. And the second question is what partnership approaches or actions by either grassroots organisations and all donors over the next 12 months could help build more momentum in practically applying LLA. So we would like to be very time bound in terms of what we suggest as approaches or actions. So if you had the next year what needs to be done what approaches and actions on the part of grassroots organisations and all funders could help build more momentum in practical application of the LLA principles. So at this point I think I'm going to hand over to Jonathan to split into your breakout groups. We shall as I mentioned we shall be coming back in the next 30 minutes exactly. So remember try and discuss for about 20 minutes. Don't let the discussion go to all over the place you should start wrapping it up with the sense that we will be feeding back in plenary and hopefully coming out with some concrete next steps from this. Over to Jonathan. Is anybody who's still in this plenary group struggling to get into a breakout room. Jonathan, could I go into Helen's group please. Sorry I was just sending out tweet. Yeah yeah I'll just time you now one second. Thanks. You should be able to join that now you're in that room. All right lovely thank you sorry it's popped up now. Okay no worries. Looking to join a room. Sorry. Thank you. Is that okay now. Hi Kimmy have you fallen out of a room or did you not get put in a room. Yeah I just I left the meeting and then went to a different place but now I'm back. Yeah I'll stick you in the room right now. One second. Hi Esperanza have you fallen out of a room. You're back into one. Oh yeah. There you go. Great welcome back to the main session we'll just give it a couple of minutes. Not even minutes a couple of seconds actually since we're short of time. I know the breakout groups have pretty much closed just waiting for everybody to join back in. There's been quite a big rush I think everybody's back in. Welcome back to everybody. Thank you for coming back into the main session. We are quite squeezed for time. And if the breakout session I was in with Helen was anything to go by there was a lot that came out of that and I'm pretty confident that there was that everything that was put in the chats as well is going to be harvested and shared. We don't have much time so what I'm going to ask Helen and Alpha to do is a bit of an exercise in alchemy in three minutes to be able to distill all of that rich content that was coming out of these these groups. So I'll probably ask you alpha to go first and what I'm looking for is a quick three minute summation of what emerged from your from your breakout group and then followed by Helen and what we are looking for you some kind of cross pollination of ideas we are both addressing the two questions together but we would like to come out of this with a clear idea of what the the the the role that the different actors need to play but also make it time bound in terms of practically applying within the next 12 months and beyond but also to look at some of the issues and procedures that were discussed that could be focused on that we could all learn from in being able to apply and take this forward so without further ado I'm going to give the floor to you alpha for the next three minutes. If we do have a little time after you and Helen go then we will take any additional nuggets from the floor so over to you alpha. Thanks so much. Thanks so much everyone. Yes indeed the breakout sessions were really really engaging and interesting. So a few things one is on issues of financing to local solutions I think one of the key things that came out very clearly the need for donors and grassroots communities to create some of these processes to sit down together and actually design some of these funding mechanisms and design some of these proposals. The example that came out was fcdo is working with the Nepal the Nepalese government and they have quite an interesting co-creation process which can actually be scaled up to other countries so that's one then number two is on the flexibility of mechanisms I think what the grassroots community is talking about is that. Yes, we would like to have access to this financing but then the stringent measures of reporting and accounting and all that are really really putting them away from that kind of accessibility so a quick one is to look at how can donors be able to kind of relax their stringent measures to at least accommodate some of these grassroots communities. Then that one was on the issue of language I think when talking to grassroots communities is and being this came from SDI and Sarah as well is a lot of times we, we are very technical and talking about some of these things to communities, which they really don't understand and that kind of puts a barrier to, to what extent can they actually be engaged so are we able to demystify some of these concepts, are we able to break them down to a simpler language to something that is actually much more understood by communities. Then there's one very interesting submission from Vincent from fcdo is that really donors needs to stop looking at every, every problem with the same kind of solution it's never homogeneous. So it's, it can be a one size fits all kind of piece of cloth. I think it's important to, and this goes back to the co creation part I think it's important for donors to approach every situation or every kind of project they're working on is different, and trying to listen more to communities try to co create with them what this could actually look like for them. Then a few last ones is there is something from SDI we need to have more structured voices of local communities, not only being recognized international conferences international Actros but actually going back to the local communities and actually being able to recognize things like local knowledge, local expertise that communities actually have their own way of doing things and can we actually be appreciative of that fact and actually support that process much more as donors as, as, as, as global actors in this field. Then the last one is, I think this came from what after from, I think from working in a youth movement that is very new that actually formed 2021. We provide more opportunities for young people to actually network to actually be able to reach out some of these donors, but also how can donors portray that trust to them, even before they become big and they're able to trust them that indeed if we finance you then you're able to actually do some of these things. Thank you. Thank you for that. And the last one is donors needs to have a more reflecting process, rather than being too concerned about just reporting accounting and financial reporting. So can we reflect a bit more on other things as well. Thanks so much. Fantastic alpha. Thank you very much for that. Helen, I'm going to hand over to you, but I'm also going to ask you once you've kind of dovetailed and added any additional points that came out from a group to just segue straight into concluding with a way forward and capturing some practical actions going forward. Over to you, Helen. Fantastic. Thanks, Josh. And excuse me. I just want to build on what alpha said. I think it sounds like we also had a very rich discussion, which raised very similar issues. So I'm not going to repeat them all. I think a couple I would would reiterate were around flexibility of guidelines. So there was a question about whether providers, for example, could look at where there was more flexibility in some of their processes and procedures that could help respond to the different needs of different groups. This message about co creation of of proposals came through front and centre. But also I think there was some some important issues around improving transparency. It came back to this question about, you know, we must we must continue to work with donors and providers to improve the transparency so that communities can see people can see where the the finances coming and understand that there is finance available out there. That came through very clearly as did a question about capacity of local organisation and a sense of what role is there for both intermediaries and providers to support fundamental capacity building so that the argument that local communities don't or local organisations don't have capacity is not something that can continue to be to be rolled out. One or two additional points that I think were raised were around recognition of core costs. There were some examples. I think it was from South Africa from some of the work looking at EDA, but also the experience there around actually how much time it can take for intermediaries and grassroots organisations in particular to get behind and kind of do that work around proposals, but also governments as well at different levels local government. And so what solution is there to support core costs for organisations to enable a sustainability of some of these organisations to to maintain themselves so it becomes less about project based finance but it kind of feeds into this longer term sustainability. And then finally we had a suggestion about whether we should have targets, but the donors might want to have targets for delivery channels so to kind of encourage them to think about that that channel that downward accountability I think Ebony referred to as in terms of really being able to demonstrate how they are taking forward locally led adaptations throughout their entire supply chain as it were. I'm conscious we had a really rich debate I have not managed to capture all the points that people made. And I think there was still a little bit more work perhaps that we could have got into to really focus on what's of all those ideas could be prioritised in the next 12 months. So I think what we would, in terms of next steps I think what would be great is we'll try and obviously pull together some of the results of your deliberations and put out there a kind of set of initial, excuse me, priorities that people that people at different stakeholder groups might be looking at. We will be trying to feed in some of the findings, the high level messages from this discussion into upcoming opportunities in the build up to COP and encourage people to also use their events and their interactions with providers with intermediaries to continue to raise the importance of putting LLA front and centre of the work that we are doing. We hope that at COP there will be some discussion where we can hear from providers, intermediaries, grassroots organisations together about how the momentum we can keep the momentum going. And obviously we're really welcome the opportunity of having the community of practice under the CBA to hear your voices and your views. And we'll build on that with other organisations over the coming weeks to see if we can refine a set of actions. So, oh, excuse me, sorry. So without sort of wanting to bring you on, I don't know whether anybody who has not had a chance to just raise a reflection would like to add anything from one of the groups that was not heard. I don't want to give anyone a, I know there was a lot of discussion in the groups, I don't know whether anyone wants to just raise anything that you feel was discussed in your breakout group which has not been captured. Helen, while we're looking for hands or waiting for people to reflect some more, there is a point that was made by Vincent in the chat around donors and working directly with communities saying that that's probably not a good idea because of the important role that national and subnational authorities play and whose responsibility it is. I think this goes back to our discussion where somebody pointed out the importance of linking climate change to the normal development planning a trajectory that exists in country which is implemented at national and subnational level. So the importance of those actors in keeping in that whole process and making sure that they're a part of it even though focus is on community. So I just thought I'd bring that up because it appeared in the chat here. Thank you. Thank you, Josh. Yes, I will admit to struggling with following the chat and trying to put you to excellent job there. But I think that's exactly one of the points that people made was around that kind of core development focus and the core roles of the systems and the institutions and how the climate adaptation work can be part of that and not seen as completely and utterly separate. I'm very conscious. We've only got a couple of minutes left. There's still more chats coming through. As I say, we'll pull together a summary of the headline messages, but in particular the readouts from the different breakout groups we will use to try and think through and refine a potential set of focus areas for the community of practice for different organisations to consider and further discuss in terms of narrowing down hopefully a set of areas that we can all coalesce around over the next 12 months to to further build momentum on LLA. So I would say thank you to everybody for your participation today. Thank you to Josh. Thank you to all our speakers for your contributions and thank you of course to everybody in the all the participants as well for your for your excellent thoughts and reflections. Thank you very much.