 Talk, we gon' have fun, we be on fire, we be unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, uh, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? None of my dad. Man, I'm here, man, hey, we got a special guest, man. We down here in H-Town, man. This our first time in H-Town. We've been to Vegas, Cali, Atlanta, yeah, we be in Dallas, but today we in H-Town where it really go down. I'm a Texas hard-headed, I love the South, nigga, and I'm at home because Texas is my home. Check it, man, my boy Dougie in the building, what's going on, baby? Hey, man, we in here, man. Same, man, in here like, how do you say, we in there like swimwear. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I tell you what, the young niggas say it's a whole niggas' stuff. Oh, yeah, I'm a whole niggas, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. So how you doing, man? I'm cool, man, I'm real cool, man, like no bullshit. Yeah, I can tell, man. You like you just laid back with it, man, you know what I'm saying? Is that the Houston vibe thing going? You know, we screwed up. Ooh. We screwed up. Say so. So check it, man. Are you originally born and raised here? Yeah. Oh, okay. You from the age? Yeah. What part of town? Most cities, Southwest, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you all over the thing, really? Yeah. Right. Tell us how it was. Yeah. How was it growing up in H town? And why did you have to move around so much? Oh, shit, man. You know, life, mama, daddy, they relationship, you know what I'm saying? Like, they was growing. I was a kid. I got to go with mama, though. You got to go with mama, though. Where were they together? Oh, for a little while, then they split up and shit, you know. Daddy went and did his thing. Yeah. So the thing I have to ask you is, man, like, so with daddy doing this thing, you know, mama doing her thing, what was you doing? You know what I'm saying? Oh, shit. Like, was you bad, man? No, no, no, no. Was you getting your school grades and stuff? I was an unrolled kid and shit. For show? Yeah, I was an unrolled kid, man. He sounds surprised. No, no, no. We be hardheads. You know, we be in the street. I ain't fucking around really, man, until like when I was 12, when mama part split was when I started fucking around. Being rebellious. Now I want to be in rebellion. See, I was starting to get money, goddammit, because she had mom or pops left. Mom was struggling. And nigga, we got a home. I'm seeing the vixen nose, mom crying. I can read. I know what this shit mean. My little homeboy put me on the game. And so we see it from there. Were you the oldest child? Huh? Are you the oldest child? Yeah. Okay. How many siblings do you have? I got my sister, Shamara. And there, like I said. What's her name? Shamara. My daughter's name is Shamara. Yeah. My daughter's name is Shamara. Yeah. It's kind of close. Then I got my sister Channing, Stahls, Kogan, my brother Chris. Wow. My pops be slanging their dick. Wow. Pops slanging their dick. They ain't trying to get it. That's a lot of girls though. I don't know. That's pops. Yeah. It's all pops. Duggy, the name, it doesn't show up in songs and everything else, man. So ripping through the city, like you do, what would make people put their eye on Duggy, man? What made people tell him, home in the Duggy? Man, really cool. Like this shit started way back with me zero and Trey doing Gorilla Mod. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Okay. And Taz. Yeah. We started doing it then, but like before that shit, we was at Willa Rears High School getting it in. Like a bunch of the homies, man. Killer Klan, faculty, a lot of the homes from Bridegate. It was like neighborhood then, Queer Run, Rears Munches, a lot of the homes from most cities, man. Like most cities. Yeah. We used to be at the Rears until I speedened that rap shit, man. Like Rear Rap. Yeah. And then, you know, it just growled up and started fucking around with record companies and shit. How did y'all put that group together though? Like how did y'all come together? Gorilla Mod was really some shit. We started at Willa Rears. Okay. Zero started that shit at Willa Rears. It was a couple of other homies that was in it originally. The homeboy Tray. Yeah. And Tray Tramaine. I was at Tray. You talking about Tray? No, no, no. No, Tray is true. No, Tray is true. I know he was in it. But yeah. You can't have Gorilla Mod without Tray. Okay. Yeah. But what I was, I mean, I said Tray. You can't have Gorilla Mod. But now it was one of the other homies. Tramaine, he ended up going to jail and shit when it was in high school. Okay. Okay. Then, when that shit had started. But it didn't become like a rap group until like me Tray and Zero and Taz put that shit out. Yeah. With our first album. How old were you when all of that went down? 19, 18 and 19. Young kids. Yeah. Tray the youngest. Tray was the youngest. Oh really? Yeah. The impact. How did you, how did you get that? I mean, when you first, when you, how did you first know, man, we got some like when, when you, from the people, you know, taking notice. Man, honestly, when everybody was just, we was just doing shows every goddamn time. Because really, like man, we was just niggas who could rap. We didn't, we, we didn't know the business and none of that shit, man. It was just niggas who could rap. Like most niggas be. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And we put that shit out. We had, we had our home in Rockets Jacobs. Shout out to Rock, man. Love that nigga, man. He the one who helped us develop it to who we was. You know what I mean? Yeah. As an artist. Like he the one who had us singing and doing all this. I was already saying cause he, that was he do. But he had us finding, finding our, our sounds and shit that we good with and using that shit in our music. So that's why we able to do that shit now. So once again, shout out to Rockets Jacobs. And he was making all the beats for us and shit. Zero was making beats and shit too though. Zero make them beats. Yeah. He fuck with them beats. And he good with it. Like come out there with a hit. Yeah. I think that he fuck with it. Y'all done heard a lot of shit he done made already. Then making beats. Like since we was young. In the room making beats. We rapping punching holes in a while. What was you at when they made this song? I don't need no help my nigga. I can do bad on my own. In the streets? Yeah. In the streets doing my shit. In the streets doing my shit. They was doing some, they was doing the ABN shit. Yeah. And I was out in the streets just doing my own thing. That was, that was before, that was after y'all had formed. Yeah. That was after the Gorilla Mall shit. Oh hard. Gorilla Mall. Slow Loud and Bangin' and then the ABN shit. Okay. Got it. How hard was it to keep a group together? Cause you know groups don't never last. Nah shit, they shit didn't last. I mean you know. Cause I mean you know. Everybody, man you know everybody had their own thought perceptions about shit and about what they think need to be done and what need to be done. Well at the end of the day nobody, nobody really just knew the business and shit man. It's fucked up. You felt like if someone knew the business or all of y'all you think you'd still be together? Probably so. Probably so. But at the end of the day I mean I know for a long time we didn't talk with each other for a while and shit. Wow. But me and Trey, me and Trey, it's like through all the bullshit. Like I had man I'm going to hustle all the way through whatever the fuck I was doing. I had a job. I'm going to hustle. I'm going to rap. I'm just not going to rob and steal. That's not my own fuck around like that. You know what I'm saying? I just didn't do none of that. So like through all the whole shit like me and Trey. I didn't go come up to my motherfucking job and we would be outside running it. Cause every job I had I think I was cool with the boss or the owner. So I pretty much did what the fuck I wanted to do with whatever job I had. You know what I'm saying? So how did you and Trey still talk now? Right now. Cause that Trey Day thing is real big down here man. You know that's what. When we was in Atlanta they were having Trey Day and Cheetan Ass Myron flew down. He did an interview with us when he got back to Atlanta and it's just a big thing. All the artists were either coming here or either going to that Rolling Loud. It happened at the same time. That same weekend. The last Trey Day they just passed. I don't stage perform one of my new songs that I got with Barn B cause it's so hard. You know what I'm saying? I performed that shit in there. So hard. Y'all got a visual to it yet? Me and Barn. Me and Barn and my bro Kid James. Y'all got visuals? Yeah, yeah. It's all right now. It's been out on World Stars, Street Flavor, everywhere man. That's something that's hard. Own them. Yeah man. We just working man. How is the creative, how's the creative just the process of going in there with Barn and creating some real dope? Well actually man, like I been wanting to get something done with Barn and I hit my Kenfolk Trey. I was like man look, run this on by Barn for me. And shit, he sent me Barn number. I ran it with Barn on the phone like man I been trying to fuck with you for a long time OG. And I sent him the beat with the hook and shit to it. And you know I think he was sick and shit for a little minute like he had went down with a little flu or some shit. Okay. But he shook back from that bitch and he hit me back. It was like I'm on the way to the lab right now nigga. And this whole heart and sent me back to Verge and shit. I was like man that's what's up. Hit him about the video. He was like no problem shit. He sent me to Addie. Sent him to Addie. And it was on. He poured up and we rocked the fuck out. That's good. Rocked the fuck out. And on that same joint I got a Trey. He plugged me in with Big Crit. Big Crit gonna be on the rip. He actually on the remix. It's just not that shit. So we just working man. It's PUD shit man. We working man. That's what I'm talking about. So you basically, what is the process for you when you going there to make, create music? Do you punch in? You freestyle it? No, no, no. I write my shit. You write? Okay. I'm still old school. Old school with it. Everybody punch in now. I just write in my phone now. You know what I'm saying? I don't use paper and pen no more. I write in the phone. They bought me an iPhone. Tell them that you gotta catch up. So you know shit. That's what I asked what it is. I write all my songs in my iPhone. So whenever a nigga gotta print them out for the copyrights and all that old shit. Everything be straight. How hard was it for you to adjust to the new technology? The way how things are compared to the way how things used to be in the music industry? I don't like it. I still don't like it. I still gotta call these niggas. Man, how you do this? How you do that? My son, I have my son do that shit. I'm like, I'm like. How did your son? He couldn't be 16. Hey, that boy just like you. They're not AJ. Know it all. You know everything. He a football star man. Are you good with it? Boy, you running down the track. You running down to feel yourself. How many kids you got? I got a daughter and a son. That's it though. You weren't like daddy? Nah, nah. I know my wife since I was. Man, I'm losing count. You can't. I was about to say you can't forget that. It's double this year. You can't forget that. She gonna hear this. She know I be forgetting shit. She know what kind of hood she's at. She know about 13 years. About 13, 14 some shit like that. Dope man. Y'all what y'all meeting? High school? Nah, in the hood. In the hood. In the hood. In the hood. So when you like dealing with how is the creative process with the chemistry? How was it with you, Zero and Drake? She was easy man cause we was family. Like we family, that shit was easy. We was niggas who was broke, struggling. And Rakesh was in this bitch cranking up fire as beats. And we was just in that hotel and I were paying a story from the streets on these beats. And that was the easy part. Making the music was easy. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was us not knowing the business so we could get the motherfucking money. Oh really? That was the problem. What about the show money and stuff? It didn't ever come through? No, we got show money. I mean like, like I said on all the interviews that I did. I never set up no shows. I never knew how much we was getting paid or none of that shit. Why? All I know is when my niggas said, hey, Dougie, we got a show here. Niggas bowed up. Niggas, that's what I did. I bowed up and then when the money got broke, I just put my hand up and they put it in my hand and I put it in my pocket and on to the next. Yeah, but you trusted them. That's why. These my niggas. I'm going to go back to the house, go to work, sell something because I'm a hustler. I'm going to have me some hustlers man. That's what I'm going to do. But even if they're your friends and stuff like that, you're supposed to always. No, these was more than friends. Brothers. These niggas I think we broke bread with. Right. Somebody split chimichans with and just slept in my house and slept with your house like. But you still supposed to know. Share clothes and shit. Know what's going on. These were my niggas man. So okay, so if you're advising a kid back then, okay, 19, a kid out there, you said I'm going down the same road that you went down. Yeah. What would you add? They're in a group. Know your business man. I don't give a damn. That's good. That's good game. I don't give a damn. Who you it? I don't give a fuck if it's your brothers or whoever the fuck. Know your business. So that way, at least you can tell them. Say bro, look here. We really supposed to be getting a lot of bread. Like niggas, we need to copyright this shit. We need to motherfucking get our publishing. We need to make sure we own the masters and shit. We need to know the business bro. So we can get the money and keep the money. Everybody want to be in the videos holding up the money and the stacks and shit. That's cool cash and shit. That's cool. But you got to keep that shit. Because these folks see y'all are getting that money and they start hitting y'all with weird ass charges and cases and niggas be trying to get at your dick and shit. You out here spending your money on lawyers and born and dumb ass shit. Buying more guns and drugs and shit man. That shit be crazy. I think that's why a lot more artists are going independent because they have that knowledge to know about the business. You winning like that though. You winning like that and the majors don't like that shit too though. I think that's why a lot of niggas begin to take down a lot of successful independent niggas. They be trying to take them down because the niggas is thinking outside the box and getting their own money. And then motherfuckers like at first they probably went to the majors on some bitch give me a deal. And the majors were like nah. And the niggas were like fuck you then. Bitch I'm finna go out here and turn up. And when it turned up and now they getting all this independent money and them folks looking like wait a minute bitch you getting too much money and we won't end. And they're like hell nah bitch I'm good with what I'm doing. What's the highest paid artist that you know of that's independent? I don't know cause I don't watch other niggas pocket. Hey I knew that was coming nigga. Yeah I knew that was coming. I don't know. Yeah that's a real one right there. And I'm gonna tell you something. I like that because that's the answer. No because I was just wondering being independent how far can you get in this industry. See I know you'll be a young boy independent. And he going in. And he ain't. And he ain't. And take none. Take none too. Take nine in Kansas you ever heard of? Yeah I heard of. Yeah that niggas independent 80 million 60 million. So he far as eating. Niggas gonna independent and win man. Yeah. So that so hard how was it doing that with Bun B and versus working back in the days cause we talking years and years apart. Now a nigga more polished with his with his with his craft man. Like I said this rap shit easy and then you got niggas like Kid James singing on that whole the way he sang it. Like you can't do none but but but but but but turn up man and go in. You can't do none but do it. Yeah. Cause we just working with a bunch of creative geniuses man like and like I ain't too shabby my motherfuckers. You got to be special though. The reason you special is because I ain't seen bun just getting on there with nobody here lately like that. That's a that's a big deal. Yeah that's the OG man. But that's so to respect you got in the Houston area for him to step up and do that for you like that. That's dope bro. It's a big homie man for real. How often do you write? Shit whenever I got a beat to write too. I'm not one of them niggas that got a thousand songs already. I'm not one of them niggas like that. Everything I do is fresh. Fresh. Everything I do is fresh. So you got to come into the studio and be like okay play a beat. Fine a beat. Or see me a beat. Bows ass. He be like duck I got some beats for you. And I bang my email look and I run through them hoes and I'm fucking with this, this, that or that. And shit I go on my zone and I go write my shit. How long it take you to write? It depends. It depends on the beat. Like if that bitch just grabbed me and I ain't got a like do no hook to like if that bitch grab me and I can start just thinking of the hook like right there on the spot. But I even having to write that hoe it ain't gonna take me too long probably a couple hours or two maybe two three hours to finish the whole song. Maybe. Maybe two three hours maybe finish the whole song. Yeah I'm gonna go in. Yeah. But like last night shit I had to knock out a verse or wrote that hoe in an hour. Like something like my young niggas they they they real fast man. I just I just I be I be like really thinking when I be doing my shit. I be thinking. I be thinking. But I'll try not to overthink that shit though. You know what I mean? Because I don't want to take too long. I'm trying to take too long. So do you think that do you do you like what the music is now the digital world we in? Yeah man I mean see because you can be everywhere without being there. You can be in everybody house by just a click of a button. That's and that's the dope part of it. I can be on your screen. I can be in your ears with just a click of a button. How is the social media looking? Do you work it? I mean I be on now. You go live? No. I'll be doing a bunch of shit. I'll be like I'll be in my in my on my fitness. I'll be in the gym working. They love to see that. I'll be putting the videos up and shit. I got my own love fitness company me and me and some of my healthy gang. That's dope man. Being a gym working out and getting it in man. I have to change my life from an unhealthy lifestyle. I'm trying to live man. You got you got some you wrote if I put a beat on you can go in right quick. Man. I'm trying again. I'm trying again. I'm trying again. It got to be a dope beat. It got to be something that grabs him like that. Yeah. But I didn't do it in a while but I probably can't still man. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie. I'll be I'll be just trying to figure things out man. You got to push. Yeah. I want to show I know already you got some. You been doing it too long. Yeah man you know. It's too slow. That's all I want. Easy change. It is. That's right. You already know that. Yeah. I know. I love them niggas man. Come on with it. Let's go. This is bottle top 101 baby. One time for your motherfucking mind. It's the niggas. Bitch I'm on the grind. Yeah. And you know we all decide to drip up and drape back. You know what I'm talking about. You motherfucking deep. Bitch I'm a cheap. I walk in nigga. T. Lee upon the dice game. And you know I'm going to swing. Yeah. Bitch I do my damn thing. I'm from the side. Bitch it's time by. Bitch it's going down. Yeah. Bitch I make your boogie down. Mr. Dougie. You can't hear but love me. On the south side grinding hard and getting money. Vines like burning. Lift the fifth dime. Rolling on false look bitch. It's time dripping on the candy. Sipping on branded. I don't drink alcohol. Bitch I ride candy. Riding on candy. Dripped up. And you know we are on the south side. Bitch they show me love. Yeah. Bitch it's how we do it. Flow like fluid nigga. Getting straight to it. I do it. Man. That boy Dougie man. Say it man. Dougie man. I like to see him. You can't have a horse that don't ride it nigga. You can't have a nigga that can rap and don't work with it. You know. We just come off the dawn. That's how I mean it. Man. H-town. That's how I feel when I think about H-town. You just put me there bro. That's how we had to do man. Yeah. So who was the first person you heard come with that style like that man. Man I see it. Cause it's the whole Houston movement of course. He and Pad and all of them boys. You know what you see them boys was the first to do it. Them boys. And they can't do it. They can't. They can't do it. They can't do it. Did you ever see like he or any of them boys just go in like you there. I didn't ever get to be there to see them. You never were there. I never get to be there to see them. But you just heard them niggas going in. But I was at the house like with screwing them and shouting back and molding them and all that old shit when he was at the house in the moat. Yeah. I used to be over there at that motherfucker with tray and rope. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I ain't gonna lie screw little shit out of rope. I bet he did. He did. He did. I was those times. I was those times. Give me a little bit of just give me some on them because I wasn't there and I never could be there now. But give me some on the music industry man. It was it was it was great because screw brought everybody together man. Even even like that screw shit brought niggas like as it continued to go. They start fucking with niggas from the mouth and shit man. Oh really? Yeah. They started running bro like niggas was like screw started some shit then you know they led on to Michael Watson doing they thing and it just really started a whole age time movement where niggas it was just love now. Yeah. Niggas one killing each other for over the north and the south after that like that shit stopped. So the music the music penetrated all that. Yeah bro like DJ screwed in and you know that shit was the reason why that that shit slowed up bro like that the north and south bullshit to me. That's what I believe bro. Because niggas start interacting with each other. At first niggas it was bad at first it was bad. But after a while like they start fucking around. You can hear them niggas on the screws got Dave from the phone. Yeah. You hear them ball saying shit like they they connecting. Let me ask that I was from the outside looking in when I look at like the younger dudes like the sauce walkers versus the old. Yeah. Yeah. I love what they doing but versus the old school. You know type style you of rail. Yeah. Which he does. He to me I can I know he's Houston all in him. Yeah. Like like when when sauce sauce man they got their own line bro because like on some real. But he Houston is hell. I'm going to be the first. I found nobody else said to me that nigga is the reason why everybody dripping and splashing now. For sure. For sure. I know. I don't give a fuck. I can't watch. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. On Balls talk 1-0-1. On Balls talk 1-0-1. I'm saying it. I believe right now South Walker and the whole South tribe is the reason why niggas is sourcing and splashing and dripping right now. Wow. If you if you say you sauce in this place and dripping in your sons thanks to sauce. Thanks to sauce. it up. You know it's always funny how like even when when when when my boy UGK they were saying trio and it was like damn like nigga was trying to steal what they had created same thing with sauce a lot of stuff not just that's why I said it early in the other interview when I was on there with uh with big pub you know uh man people come down here to get different things and they take it back and make it their own in their own city and they've been doing that for years it ain't just started Texas got a thing man and they always come in trying to get it the side man I think we just like me personally don't get it fucked up New York them they they don't want to start to rap shit this hip hop shit like no I'm saying they made it big like but in the side row we got a we got a style and a swag that everybody everybody everybody get a taste of and they take that shit back and a lot of people don't really just pay homage though they don't don't pay dollars though like I don't see in sauce kid get at them niggas about stealing it you ain't gonna let them get it that way it's remind me like a PFC or somebody like he ain't just for to do nothing to him and he ain't gonna say something back I've been trying to interview that nigga man I like that dude man it's smart as fuck you know how to keep that attention man it's more than that it's more than that with anything by me being the age that I am and understand business and understanding just just marketing and and and and going to give money now that I'm learning all the shit that I've learned now he he been around some motherfuckers and lunchmanship already why so I like I know like that nigga down I watch this nigga on the arm he was giving information about a new only fans thing since only fans shut down yeah this nigga here and got a whole new mother fucking sight for motherfuckers who still want to get money on their shit like the nigga a young genius man don't he gonna he gonna always get money and he in his team he keep his team on too so that's what that's what I like about that shit I gotta ask you about the guy that we had on the show DJ Chos yeah what do you how do you feel about his production in the way his his whole brand I mean shit a nigga working bro he doing this thing he in the side man I applaud any nigga from the side or any nigga who who grinding and getting it in and trying to be successful with with your guard giving talent and putting in the hours for for for yourself and your business no I'm saying I applaud any nigga who doing it because that's your hard dog that's your hardest fuck man it's easy for you to go punch a clock for for another motherfucker dream and vision and just go there and do what they tell you to do for a certain amount of hours and get a guarantee whatever the fuck 25 17 hour 32 19 hour 17 15 50 hour whatever the fuck they is they pay you all it's easy for you to go ahead and do that all you gotta do is get your ass to work on time follow instructions and be a good worker and get the fuck home as one when it's time to punch out when you run your own shit you gotta do everything you gotta you gotta you gotta manage your own money for your company for your mother fucking house you got babies you got every fucking thing man you gotta maintain let me ask you this man the way the back in the day when I used to come up here I've been coming up here a long time old I used to go down I was remember at 14 15 we're getting in a in a we had a thunderbird and we'll go down through about do some park my nigga we should go to this park and then we just come through nigga plans music nigga y'all niggas popping trunk and everything else down here now that was even before that ever to be honest with color mode enough to remember that and when I seen the boys y'all flow with that poppin trunk one of the first time you seen the pop trunk and do all that and ride elbows and bowls when they start doing that shit out here I don't even just remember when it was doing it been doing ever since you can remember what they do I mean I'm gonna say like in the 80s I was seeing that shit but like in the 90s about the 90s when you start seeing swangers and candy paint as we used to I see in the pop trunk ain't nobody with the bang in it all y'all niggas showing the bang in the license shit that's when you start how do you feel like about like big crit and them guys man loving the style and just captivating it in Mississippi and all these other places because of because of because of because of Houston then the size I agree with I mean it's like man like it's like good-ass dope or some a famous ass food that tastes so goddamn good that when people taste that bitches just start spreading just like dope like that's how that's how the style is man once you grab that shit that shit is gonna naturally organically migrate because people gonna gonna gonna grab that shit like somebody in the world is gonna like what you do check it man top three artists of all time dead or alive any genre top three only one three number one god damn man I can't man top three on genre any genre it can it can be anybody from it could be anybody your top three Luther van draws to see it could be anybody no no everybody do this it's tradition of the channel number one number one of all time the goat give it up you know what I'm gonna do now you gotta give it up I'm gonna take the I'm gonna be wise me me me no give it just give me you know it can change man just tell us who you think the number one artist of all time is number one okay that's your number one they have it man me and you we ain't I'm gonna have to call you every time I gotta get your personal number when I come to town man you rocking out nigga that you heard what they ain't listen we ride me too that's what I'm saying we can hang out okay that's your number two I'm just I'm just I'm just give me number three you know fuck with pop yeah okay yeah cuz I'll be putting this up man so you gk a bond mjg and to pop man that's a dope top three man and it can change you can change yeah yeah so what's your favorite you gk song murder man come on man that boy pimping bomb was stupid on that bitch man so if you would go back and talk to the younger you man when you was about 16 17 you did oh I can't even get him like that man you I can't stand you you asked the questions early yeah so so what do I need to do while I'm in H-town man where can I go give me some good food at man I'm talking about it and I don't want to stand alone I'm gonna say go over to OST man to sunshine the vegan spot okay you're vegan I just be over there I love it I eat chicken turkey fish I don't eat fried shit like that already I try to clean the healthy man cuz I was 275 for sure my big diabetes and high blood pressure wow how long ago did you do that way 2017 that's when I started that's when I started losing um I quit smoking cigarettes and I started doing that shit so I working out so now I'm 200 or you did it all on your own or somebody actually helps you to do no I know but then sometimes even when your health is at risk is hard to just break that habit no well what happened was my mama died in my arms in 2013 and she used to smoke cigarettes and shit too and I still smoke cigarettes four years after she died but I was here her voice telling me son like you seen with them cigarettes did to me don't don't don't don't be like that on your family I really fucking commercials will always pop on like obviously now smoking a cigarette and one of the commercials to come on do you have COPD feel like a hell if you're sitting on your chest I'm like man or that woman that talking yeah yeah that shit you know I'm like damn man after my mama be talking to me sorry I went to the doctor and that nigga was like say man you tell you 275 pound to set if I almost hit the 300 pre-hypertension and your blood sugar is one point away from having diabetes then I think it was like you know those two conditions can affect your penis getting hard I said what he said but we got medication for that I say hold on so you try to tell me I'm gonna take medicine for high blood pressure diabetes and it get my thing on like yeah I was like hell now he was like it was like well you need to start smoking cigarettes you need to start exercising to change the way you eat I said right now today I left the doctor and went to the motherfucking track and I walk around run around walk around I did the first day you know how it takes time to build up to the first day I fucked that I went and started doing that shit and I the first two weeks or a month of me doing that shit like I would black out wake up you blacked out yeah I'm where at home on the track in my car when I finished working out why cuz I hadn't been doing that shit I had I was borderline I'm pretty sure my blood pressure month yeah like my first month and me starting to work out and you think that your body would be used to it by that you know no cuz I'm out there in the goddamn sun at 12 o'clock oh you're crazy one doing it I did that shit and I lost 20 pounds doing that and then I said all right I'm gonna go to the fucking gym I start going to my partner he was a train at the gym but I used to have to go to work so he was like fuck it just come to the house he had a gym in the garage I go over there and work out about an hour and a half go do the shit that he be doing and I start losing my way then I went back to the doctor like no high blood pressure no good I just kept losing it after the how long did it take you to take the weight off like that how much did you lose total I got down to 198 so I lost all to 75 like almost 100 pounds and how long did it take about six years yeah about a year about a year it took me about a year to about a year and a year and I had to get down to like 198 man because that's a healthy weight loss that wasn't that's dope bro let me ask you I don't take shit I don't fuck with nothing at the most I take it's like a pre-workout so you eat all okay so you said fish chicken turkey turkey chicken fish turkey no fried food no do you do a lot of carbs or no carbs I love rice but sometimes I try to be like you can do brown rice I like I was putting butter and hang on like this I like saute some of my wife or saute some spinach and I like put that shit on top of the rice yeah I gotta ask you a question back on the music did you ever like we rap a lot being there did you ever sign the rap a lot do you do anything with J Prince no we had them I remember having a meeting with them before me zero on trade we sat up in the arm at the compound that was discussing something about doing a couple gorilla marra albums with us but we never did it never did it how do you how important do you think J Prince legacy is here in Houston that shit that's the OG man that's the OG that's the OG in that time man he been like I said he been doing books and all kind of stuff he even came out more on the on social media than I thought he would have ever done being that I've followed him ever since I was young and I mean I just here's like you know I'm saying like like he a real powerful dude man like be a lot of motherfuckers want to see him down because he do a lot of good shit no I never felt that way no no not the people here not not not people here I'm talking about I just I just hate to see a powerful black man like that yeah I agree and it's not even just him it's a lot of them bro yeah and every time you powerful and black and you take a stand and like motherfuckers they want to come and get you do you see any younger person here in Houston who is striving to be almost you know in that straight that nigga this is pop that nigga is really really popular I mean you know to be like a J Prince oh he dope man like I mean I don't say like a J Prince he in his own lane man like doing his own thing he more like don't know him on the humanitarian side like when that flood came through he did a lot of work more than that shit I think it'd be a every goddamn disaster that happened that motherfucker gonna pull up he'd be pulling up they they pulled up on the Haiti people just to when they pulled up they was gone wow it was gone they like they moved all of them people fast that's dope that's the fuck they like straight no like they went even look they took them people to Mexico I believe Wow that's crazy so man well hey we love you brother so we appreciate you for coming spending time on boss talk one-on-one man if you next time you decide to do a bum be whatever video and I'll call you boy man no I'm gonna pop up gonna make sure everybody who right here yeah yeah yeah get me there I'm gonna pull up man I'm with the shit yeah I enjoy man I met him a few time man and just been a dope stand-up guy every time I met him it was at different places Vegas so wherever we was at man but just to just to be able to sit down with you man it's been an honor and a pleasure man because like I said we are I'm from East Texas I live in Dallas but I've been my people got got some shit out there in here in my uncle yeah see in their music store yeah funeral homes and shit yeah yeah yeah yeah you be going home sometime going down to see that's not going down to see them yeah when we used to be on the road and shit we just go out there and fuck around with them and shit yeah that's good already how you can deal with that funeral man I can't deal with don't like the babies and she don't like don't like yeah that's bad man look at her that body I can't not at all wow well she I can't ace her yeah look at her you don't fuck around and see her okay this way I freshly freshly freshly you know I can I can look at that no but someone who didn't sit on ice well I can't do that don't sit on the table on that goddamn silver steel table drain that's right let it out flew it in wow that's on that on that note boss talking one-on-one is a thing y'all I'm nervous niggas Halloween month yeah thank you so much man you the dopest dude man I love the fact that you came on boss talk 101 man say man it's been another great segment of boss talk 101 I don't want to tell y'all don't forget to hit that subscribe button oh I know a lot of y'all watching us and not subscribe so y'all make sure on YouTube you hit that subscribe button oh and on Instagram y'all go ahead and follow boss talk podcast one-on-one boss talk podcast one-on-one and right now we out