 Welcome back to the breakfast time for the press. We have Tundi Kola Wally and James Ebor, legal practitioner joining the conversation this morning via phone. It's good to have you join us gentlemen Thank you All right, then let's take a look at the leadership newspaper this morning quickly the bold caption for the leadership talks about Cancer patients. It says cancer patients stranded for months at National Hospital over faulty machine Underneath management claims ignorance of failure of three million dollars CTM machine since January Equipment service or serves a booger and not in region CSOs raise concern once held spending probed These are the riders underneath the boat caption away from that we get a PDP National Working Committee. I helped you imagine now pay me back Zoning consensus Other stop agenda as APC neck meets today. We wouldn't allow anyone Group destabilize Nigeria. That's what the president is quoted to say and just before we move away from the leadership IMF reviews Nigeria's growth focus from 2.7 percent to 3.4 percent 20 burnt alive in Balchi auto crash and to die as the NAF aircraft Crashes in Kaduna bandits kill three. These are the headlines on the leadership Then to the nation newspaper the main caption for this morning Battle for PDP ticket hats up as nomination closest today Tambor some meds form says I will unite Nigerians governor. We gave a field me or we lose Obie meets delegate will be fair to all are you assures people's gang sex in Dubai police invites parties APC Paramarisa and the gay in a money joint presidential race or show appointees to go Seven Or to go seven resign in Cano net to okay guidelines Lecture dies one week after released by kidnappers two pilots killed in air force train a jet crash Tinnable raises smear campaign alert boharie will won't allow anybody to destabilize Nigeria Those are the main stories you can find on there nation newspaper All right Let's take a quick look at the punch newspaper this morning Electrical act presidency OSGF disagree over boharie's ministers refused all to resign You also have like a major in giga declares for presidency refused to leave office Gandhu J. Oyatola, okay, re-exignation of appointees contesting for 2023 polls matter for a faction wants a PC against Representing Zamfara 20 or repeating Zamfara 2019 mistakes drop your presidential be the feniferee Leader telling the former president. I mean a former governor of League of State bulletinable and also the vice president Professor Yemi or see badger another NAF jets crashes in Kaduna to Fiat cute and I won't allow anyone disabilize Nigeria boharie tells governors and service chiefs and We just quickly look at this despite CBN Clam down Nigeria traded 316 billion Naira Bitcoin in 2021 and Chris learn sexual acts cool parents pupils meet pleased today four children 16 passengers die a speeding bounty vehicles explode now We'll just take one or two before we move away from the punch 10 bankers lend customers 2.9 trillion Naira in 12 months This is according to report and all price. I am of upgrades Nigeria's economic growth focus to 3.4% the big question everyone would always access. How does this translate into the standard of leaving of Nigerians? San Uzodemah feniferee falls the affaire Baba Lola on interium government that would constitute Crocs of our conversation this morning as we proceed. You also have boharie spokesman inefficient and What else do you have here poor writers says Matthew cocker? These are the headlines on the part And finally we go to the daily independent newspaper The main story nobody will be given a room to destabilize Nigeria. That's a code into the president Muhammad IGP most the secure schools deploys operational assets Pilots fear dead as another NAF plane crashes in Keduna Oshiba Joe's team alert on a hateful campaign plan against VP PDP may lose 2023 President if I don't peak its ticket we kill once NWC Gun men abduct five wedding guests in a number opposition behind attacks in Emo Keduna Eboni Uzodemah insist 2023 election. Why some will lose Gods not to go for second term Throwing presidential ticket open will be may say for PDP. That's a code into a chieftain there But they judge IMF raises Nigeria's growth forecast to 3.4% in 2022 and you get formally joint presidential race Those are all of the stories you can find on the daily independence newspaper this morning All right, let's have the gentleman join the conversation to the color will a Legal practitioner and James Seabor legal practitioner once again. Thank you gentlemen for being part of the show Okay, so let's start off with some of the headlines that we have I mean let's take a look at the Leadership newspaper this morning. I'd like to start with the punch. I beg your pardon I start with James Ebor electoral act presidency OSGF disagree over Buhari's ministers refuse out to resign and This might just be a little bit of an issue here underneath. You have Gandhi Jay or yetala others okay Exignation of appointees contesting for 2023 polls now some people are saying those who have been elected I mean it's a different thing those who were elected into office should not resign and others are saying It should just be the concern of those who are appointees of government But what do you think that what do you think that should be? Well, yes for me And we must have a lonely the muscle on palatable a boy No, it's no only to see here all political appeal Have to come I mean them abide by that section people it is true of the electoral act on it is a review When you look at it critically It may not be too cool that the section of the political class to insist or should find a way or should make a law to Suck on style to put a pediment a barrier in front of political participants and Participating effectively in electoral activities For the last Let's also share the thoughts of James C. Bourne this particular one to the color Well, this is very important point. I want to make and I would say very briefly My position is that the people in the national We have made that law The meeting or based on the experience the political appointees Usually you publicly government resources So power to be known participation in politics when they continue to remain in office without resigning and those political activities take place Yes, I I beg to disagree Look I hear me Yes, the Electoral Act Beautiful document. In fact, I like the way the section 84 was couched But is that the law today? Remember the judiciary has the power of judicial review and as far as that section is concerned It's been it's been Reviewed by the high court and the matter is currently on appeal So it will be I think it will not be proper to say that the law is that they should resign The law had changed by virtue of the judgment in at the estate high court What matters then is what will the cut our PC and whatever cut my PC's and becomes the law Assistant now we have a law that says they have to resign and the judiciary has done So look that should not be the law is being reviewed. So the question is what is the law today? I think if My appreciation of the law is correct is that the law is Is that to school? It means that section has been removed by law It has been removed because the court has say so the court actually made an order or that's striking it out So that is no longer the law and until the thought of appeal decides otherwise There will be no need for any political appoint appointee resigning as the matter of law because it's no longer the law Because it is a pronouncement of a high court and until that pronouncement is set aside The position is that they should resign Because it has been struck out. All right, let's stay on the puncher newspaper There's a whole lot are going on concerning and the presidential You know interest of the VP and of course the former governor of Lagos. They are still in the news But the pawns captures it this way drop the presidential bit a fenifera leader tells a tinu boo Oh, she about joy. This is coming in the wake of alleged that you know, you know campaign smear that we Have been told, you know is going on right now So let me get to you now barista to the colorly what's your opinion concerning the position of the a fenifera leader asking You know the VP and the Lagos former Lagos did governor to drop the presidential bits What do you have any family people are entitled to the opinion like any of them in here and I She had their concern They want stability in this country. They want inclusiveness They want all sessions of the country to feel that you really belong to this country And they are never shot out of any opportunity That is available to other tribes gender or war What again, you must remember My own position Which is that I don't care where the precedence is come from It is our best and the best people the best bring those who can take us out of this quagmire That we are fine. I just ask them Affirmation shall be allowed to manage ourselves. I am looking at people like Monta. You are looking at people like sure I'm looking about I mean Michael I Am looking at somebody like the man in job I This are people have demonstrated the state Furthermore when tribes begin to say it is your son to rule you are kind of in soft You are building and integrating the other side There are 350 tribes in Nigeria and one of them are incites you to cover Nigeria Entirely to rule Nigeria But they oppose the Yoruba They are also in the full of me I've appropriated Nigeria to the effect. I think Nigeria belongs to them So when they talk about Nigeria when they talk about leadership They are only thinking about the outside the full of me and the Yoruba people who live which I think it is wrong It is a thing that We kind of Robin sauce in the There is no time that bigger than that. No matter the size of this Try so I am for the best hand for the best We know for the for for the best a program No matter who the best is coming from whether it's coming from the east Whether it's a full animal was the best program and the best agenda to rule Nigeria I don't care where it comes from and that's any better people Then you look at it. They are incites you are What composes they have over the votes are the only makes most of the pages of newspaper All right. Let's move away from that now James Seabor. This might be Very interesting. Some people say it's an irony The president saying he would not allow anyone on any group to destabilize the country as a matter of fact The perception here is that some people have allowed themselves to be used to destroy their country What do you make of this statement in the wake of security challenges that were faced with as a country? Well, it is That statement from the president himself is very hypocritical and Unfortunate and very disappointing In fact, I think the president has taken Nigerians for granted He's talking about he will not allow you have allowed people to destabilize this country. There is security in this country They look sided appointments The the response to security issues Really shows that the man has lost control the president should in fact design his position He has failed the only reason why we have government is to protect lives and property And the rest of every day to tell you Uh, you will not allow then of course He has actually squared In security and destabilization of this country himself by his his actions You know people are dying in Kaduna and he's jetting out of the country You talked about one of the news about headlines you read I think he's from the national leadership about the cancer the national people and the cancer machine being that he doesn't care He doesn't really care Because the political elites who always jet out for To for medical stories They don't really care I think uh, Nigeria is like a farm. They just come farm and take it out This country is actually disintegrating And he wakes up every morning to to threaten people I think that statement is targeted It's political and targeted to which form the particular group Do you know the people who are ready to destabilize it? You know the issues you know those actually causing insecurity in this country Why not go after these criminals you understand Uh people actually stealing money He's just Pardon to some criminals convicted criminals And he's telling all what you see what was the president actually saying I I just to hear this each time he he responds to To uh concerns about his security He makes me he actually demonstrates his incompetence this frustration Because he has the resources he has the support Okay, but uh, James Ibo let's also Can you hear us I can hear I'm here Okay, so let's quickly just you know have a connect with the thoughts that you raise on the leadership newspaper It talks about cancer patients stranded for months at the national hospital over faulty machines And you are saying that the president has actually failed. He doesn't really care And so Argument over time has been that you have the civil society organization raising concern and wanting a probe about the spending of the health budget Yes, we know that the budget has not really met, you know the required um Spending that has been a locator, especially the un and what have you but would you really blame the president? Should we be blaming the president or we should blame how far we have not been able to spend what's even made available? We have a minister for health How about the general We have an auditor general who is the account of federal establishments will track a spend each of our government Departments and agencies Has the government implemented The recommendations of this or this report the answer is no our president is not challenged is careless about what actually happens here You're talking about you. Yes. You spent money to revive the health sector And that you have not seen the money. So what happened? Is this JT boss civil society of musician that should prosecute those who are diverted or it's appropriated health budget Is he not the government he's heading He's actually shown gross incompetency Yeah, he should he should not remember there was issues about the budget of people the the asorok clinic And and he has not said anything about even when the wife raised an alarm But because they have tax payers money to always travel abroad American tourism. They don't really care about average Nigerian civil sour Who cannot even treat themselves in in in in in in hospitals in Nigeria You hear the scandal about a year ago of Of medical doctors, you know keynote in long queues To travel to Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia The best brains are living this country and you think We would All right I want to leave the soldiers to that direction Our doctors are living the best of our doctors are living the country because of the first taste of our health infrastructure Where we can't even maintain in in in the national health we can maintain cancer machines This is more poor. This is very disgraceful. All right. Let's move on. Let's bring a tundi colorly back into the conversation Let's take one or two stories from the daily independence as we round off. There are lots of stories You know pdp is in the news Uh, pdp may lose 2023 president if I don't peak its ticket wiki is one in the nwc and Throwing presidential ticket open will be mistake for pdp, but they judge colorly Let's just talk about both of them in a side-by-side as we round off this conversation What the feelers that the pdp sending out To the Nigerian people And to the rank and file of their members Is that the party is also in victory. It's not as cohesive as them I mean, it's not cohesive just like the apc And when you have the two points like political parties With this kind of disorganization with this level of disarray with this level of non precariousness For the 2020 election the Nigerian people should have the cost to worry The truth of the matter is that If it is the content of Of the end of the pdp and also the Decision of the rank and file membership to go by consensus Or to go by delegate a vote in a war at will Every party member no matter how they play Should kill into the majority decision But no, I'm sure this is not what we don't see in this political Dispensation that we are in today. Everybody thinks it's a low run to insert because it's governor Of course it's minister because it's vice president President and you don't run a political party like this And then for a weekend he has been to garrulous and to contact us In all his position of countries and activities And when you look at what is on ground in this stage With the quantum of money that goes to that stage On the corner on the day on the monthly basis as monthly allocation for the sedation account You couldn't say that a weekend has performed affectionately well What is the thing is just bullying and proud Bullying and proud brushing Citizen brutal I think it is a lot of the manner My take is The end of this year of the pdp To put his foot down and with weekend online if he doesn't want to apply by majority decision All right, thank you so much Caller Lee those are some of the stories on the daily independent, but let's see if we can take one more from james ibo right now The governor of emo state is quoted as saying that the opposition is behind all the attacks in emo kaduna Eboni state. Do you agree with his postulation? Well, it is sad it's coming from a governor who is the head of the executive arm of government in emo state And the same member Belonged to the same political party with the president who is the commander in chief and he Has a secret agents at his back and call Like I said again, he has made a political statement Get was trying to suppress opposition Usually everything A negative that happens is blamed or no position when of course they have all the resources to expose the the evil The criminal activity the so-called criminal activities of the opposition party that statement is political and Misdirected and very unfortunate They had they are they are the government in power And they have all the intelligence or the resources task payers money to bring to justice All those costing insecurity. It just shows you how how deep political leadership has degenerated in Nigeria where the the the poor people the victims themselves and survivors of criminal attacks are blamed for their woes I want to use the opportunity to comment on the creep land. You mentioned this in one of the papers the creep land uh, sajua kip saga and then Use this opportunity to correct the impression that Whether the post is rape is actually no rape Uh, those are sajua offenders and we have a juvenile justice system that should be Legosi has the chai rice law a chai rice law. They also have a kishon guidelines for child offender They have a way to police force That should handle Juvenile cases in legacy legacy has been very proactive I want to use opportunity that they should use the unit in the Nigerian police force has been trained over the years On how to handle children cases to get into these cases. They have family costs also You know, so they should uh, you know begin to make good use of these resources and I am sure um using the minister of youth and social welfare services to also regulate Schools because these are these cases. They have always been there. It is it's not new. It's just that social media Has made it more prominent because it's easy to get to circulating information now We don't have to be deliberate about protecting children Like john lock would say children are born in clean slate. It is the society has that has made it so society has to take responsibility to protecting this kid By ensuring that they are not exposed to setting content that will ruin their future Well, james james sable. Thank you so much for being part of the show this morning the newspaper review to be precise Thank you, uh, tunde koala woole legal practitioners as well for being part of the show. 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