 Okay. Well, we have any topics anybody wants to explore today? That's pain in the body. It would be a first helpful reminder to just gently remind yourself that all illness is mental illness. And therefore, all pain is mental pain. So it really is a psychological condition. And the ego immediately wants you to think of it as a physical condition. Because there's a line in the course that says, don't ask the Holy Spirit to heal the body. Now, when you first read that, that can seem like, well, that seems like a reasonable request for the Holy Spirit. You know, if I have a migraine headache or a throbbing knee or a sore elbow or something, and I'm making a prayer to God for help, that seems like a pretty reasonable request. You know, it takes a chain away from me. There was one point where Helen Chucklin actually said, take this fear away from me to Jesus. And Jesus said, I can't do that, which is quite an interesting response from Jesus. Because he said that that would be interfering with the most basic law of cause and effect. And I would be interfering between your thoughts and their effects. I can help you with the conditions of how you set the fear up. I can show you that really they're unreasonable and that you would do well to let go of them. But I can't even take your fear away. You know, in the end, it's not, the ego says we're lost and that we can't be saved or that something outside of us needs to save us. And basically Jesus is saying, well, indeed, you do seem to be lost, but you have the answer within you. You are not helpless. And a lot of times Christians will point and say, Jesus saved me or Jesus did something to take my guilt away or whatever. But they're not really willing to take that passage from the Bible about the continual renewing of your mind and doing the inner work. And you can't just appeal to Jesus and say, do it for me. You can do it with Jesus. But it involves Jesus getting in there and showing you what the conditions are that you've set up using the ego and then letting go of those conditions and then the pain disappear. So, but if you seem to be experiencing body pain or intense body pain, already the mind is in a state of fear because it's gone off into that condition. And the worst thing that you can do when you're in a state of fear is increase the fear. And that's why there's been a lot of reaction to Christian science and some of the rumors about Christian science and Mary Baker Eddy where they said, oh, these people, the children were in grave danger of sickness or death and needed medical attention and these parents simply did nothing to help them. You know, it's kind of like the wrath on Christian science and anybody who studies Christian science knows that basically the teachings are, pray first, turn to God first in all things because that's where the answer is. Of course, if the problem is a psychological problem of believing you're separated from God, the answer is going to come through the power of prayer and opening and listening to the Holy Spirit. And so that's all that's about. What we would say is, and we would call magic in Course in Miracles terms, like taking a painkiller or doing some kind of alternative treatment on the body or using some kind of means like either surgery or something so on and so forth to reduce the pain, Jesus calls that magic and he says there's nothing wrong with magic so it's not like it's like a sin or it's an error or it's evil to use any of those things. It's just that the belief that magic works does perpetuate the belief in the magic. So if you're constantly using magic, whether it's diet or exercise or alternative healing or medications, drugs, massage, any one of enormous varieties, in fact, if you seem to be cold and you put on a winter coat and a sweater, that's magic. So we can expand our definition of magic and if you're too hot and you put on your bikini or your swim trunks and you go splashing in a swimming pool, that's magic. So magic is a huge topic there. We're not just trying to say drugs are magic but we're putting it in anything that you do where you give belief to the world of form and images in order to bring you into a better condition, a more comfortable condition that would all be considered magic. And there's nothing wrong with it except that as you go deeper with your mind training of course you want to get into the miracle because the miracle is what's going to eliminate the pain or the guilt or the discomfort entirely. The solution is God. It's not hypnotism or mesmerism and it's not any of these other magical solutions. Mahatma Gandhi, he was really good. He was in prison so many years but he wrote a lot about his vegetarianism but he used a lot of herbal cures for many things instead of more like straight medicine. But those would all be magic too. And the deeper you go into it you start to realize okay I'm not going to beat myself up and I'm not going to feel guilty in the least bit about using the magic but if I use the magic, whatever I'm guided to use, that's beautiful and I really want to go deeper and get at the guilt that produced the symptoms or produced the pain in the first place because that's going to free me from it entirely so that I won't, in some stage of my mind training I won't need magic at all. I can just flow in the joy of the spirit and I will transcend the need for it but I will outgrow my need for magic like a child outgrows its toys.