 Hero one welcome to technically episode one of the rebooted Nintendo Prime podcast news set if you guys saw our pre-nintendo direct podcast conversation piece you'll recognize what's going on to my left and your guys is immediate right in front is Eric Moore oh the co-host of the mostest the bestest Nintendo podcast really video game podcast in the world behind us he can't see us so I haven't he has no idea what we're doing is super metal Dave 64 how's it going man going good man thanks for having me on so if you didn't know episode one is starting off with a banger I actually wasn't gonna bring the podcast back yet because as you see Eric and I are sharing Mike we are to have the wrong audio equipment to run two mics right now but that's not gonna stop us because it took 531 days what we got a direct a Nintendo direct a full-fat 50-minute behemoth so that's what this podcast is gonna be about there's no point and we don't have sections we're just gonna talk about the damn direct and I guess the first thing I have because Eric was here with me live reacting to this is Dave what's your initial reaction to this 50-minute direct look was it worth the wait I thought it was pretty good it was a little bit disappointing though have to admit just because there wasn't certain games there wasn't a certain game there that we all want to see a couple certain games but overall I think I would grade it about a C just because I had a there's a lot of games I really liked like no more heroes 3 and the the Legend of Mana game in a Samurai Warriors 5 and of course Zelda Skyward Sword HD but there was no Breath of the Wild 2 and there was no Metroid Trilogy Prime Trilogy there was no Metroid Prime 4 of course there's no 2D Metroids you know as you know you guys follow me on my channel I do I do a lot of Metroid stuff so I was hoping for that but and then there was a lot of fluff in between of course and stuff I just wasn't interested in but the stuff that was there like the the stuff they did that was interested in was really cool so it was like it was like a in-between kind of show for me like I I liked a lot of it but then I also didn't like a lot of it and I really hoped it was I was hoping was gonna be a little bit more I guess you know like like the whole problem with Nintendo fans of course because there's so many different types of Nintendo brands and like genres to enjoy that it's hard to please everybody so like the Splatoon fans got super happy and since I'm not into into that series I was like yeah you know that wasn't that great but that's why I say overall it's kind of like a like an in-between kind of kind of great for me like a C C plus yeah I think that Nintendo did some interesting things with us direct I think one thing that maybe caught people off guard is we haven't had a real big Nintendo direct and you know in so long that there were things that happened in this direct that I think we forget happens in other big directs but we were hoping maybe it wouldn't be the case things like they showed off a lot of indie games and there's nothing wrong with indie games but Nintendo never abandoned indie games I mean we have multiple indie world events over the last year so it kind of felt like you could have just put this in another indie world and gave us more big announcements like we knew you know they tempered expectations ahead of time to say hey look it's gonna be a lot of updates on existing games and you know the first six seven months of the year and for the most part they stuck to that script beyond Splatoon 3 which of course is that one title they always have that one title that goes beyond the promise and I was a little surprised it was Splatoon 3 but we'll get to that a little later I just think that this direct you know you gave it about a C I feel like I kind of agree but then I sat there afterwards and I was counting how many of the games they showed off am I gonna end up buying and I came up with eight titles I'm gonna buy and for me that's a lot out of one direct it does help it was yeah yeah but I mean even like setting aside that it was 50 minutes like there's a wide breadth of games that I'm gonna buy me obviously Splatoon 3 and Mario Golf which really excited me I forgot to mention that I'm excited for Mario Golf 2 yeah I'll buy that no dude they brought back a story mode that has RPG elements mm-hmm haven't seen that since like what game boy advance something like that yeah the original one no that looked that looked amazing that like the best looking Mario Golf game I've ever seen and I mean the overall like the whole package of it that not of course the best graphics but also like the best looking like the how you play it game to look really good oh yeah it looked it looks superb so there's that game obviously we there was games we knew that they were gonna come up like monster to rise which they did have new announcements for it an apex mode ramp apex monsters I'm sorry rampage mode and that's that's fine I mean monster to rise is gonna be a big deal game monster hunter world I think is successfully popularized monster hunter in the West now and monster hunter was always huge in the East so it kind of feel like rise I don't rise isn't gonna do world numbers that's it's just a single platform but I mean it's a platform that all the exclusive games sell shitloads so yeah of course they were gonna show that I kept thinking I guess meet people obviously had their expectations very very high which it's partly on them but it's also partly on the fact that it's been forever right if this would have just been another direct in the lineup of normal directs I think people would have felt a little differently about it because we got Splatoon 3 out of it we got Skyward Sword HD which not so sure why they're selling it for 60 bucks other than they're just Nintendo and that's what they do oh is it 60 bucks it is 60 bucks a check we had to do the we looked up the pre-order yeah so it's so the only thing we know for sure is that the game runs at least 720p so it's at least HD and I don't think it's I can't foresee it really dipping on the system much so hopefully 1080p docked but it runs a 60 FPS as well and that's a well yeah that looks good that that's a big welcome change but outside of like remapping controls to the right stick it's the same game like I think about all of you know Nintendo constantly gets criticized for charging 60 bucks for these ports but this to me honestly like how is this any different than say porting I don't know Mario Galaxy over and putting in HD except you packaged that with two other games and you charge 60 that's a good question like why are we getting it yes they did this we you Twilight Princess HD Wind Waker HD but those also seemingly had way more work put into them than this this literally just looks like the original game HD yeah thankfully for yeah thankfully for Skyward Store the art style is so good that they can get away with that and it looks really good like on Dolphin for example that's basically what they're doing it looks like that kind of thing just uprising everything in HD yeah super clean super nice the art style really great lens to that yeah I mean I mean as far as in 4k I'm not emulator before so yeah they haven't ever they added anything though to the game right not that I noticed just know the ability to use motion controls or not use motion controls that's it 60 I mean that is good is a good change too but that is good because then you can play it on the go you know really easily yeah yeah so that is kind of a cool thing but fundamentally it's just the same game with remap controls and a switch like mm-hmm well oh and the light what about the oh yeah yeah because you can't the lie I suppose you can have your well they had every game that comes on a switch from Nintendo has to be playable in handheld because the light right is only handheld right but can you duck right you can't not the light no no can you attach joy cons is like or you can use joy cons with the light yes okay so little I mean it's a little tiny screen now right anyone does it but technically you can say any switch controllers to it okay so you can do motion controls on the light if you do tabletop mode yeah or you hack it and get video out to your TV which at that point why didn't you just buy a normal so I see your point though if $60 is kind of a lot like a Twilight Princess and when wicker I think we're $50 in the Wii U so that was I think they were 60 back then too but I can't remember the thing that even if they were 50 or 60 I mean technically you can argue this is 52 go to Walmart day one it'll be 50 bucks oh yeah that trick yeah that $10 off things so like you could still get it for 50 but I that is what Nintendo was doing I just look at what they've been doing with switch like we got this in my 3d world but we got a whole new mode to the game for 60 bucks pick me three deluxe we got all of the Olimmer additional content you know Xenoblade Chronicles definitive edition we got an entirely new quest line that's you know leads into Xenoblade Chronicles 2 you know you look at I'm trying to think what else game I can't remember if they did anything with Tokyo Mirage Sessions that might have been one didn't add anything new to that I don't think so you know Mario Kart 8 Deluxe got all the DLC package in the one package that's the first time that happened so like you kind of look at Nintendo's history of bringing these older games over and even the games they didn't really change anything in well that would have been Super Mario 3d All-Stars and we got three games for 60 yeah right we got the three games that's so I like I was hoping they weren't gonna announce the price because I had a theory at first since they didn't announce the price during the directed okay they gave us a launch date but maybe they're not giving us a price yet because this is the first game revealed of a 3d Zelda collection that's not the case of course they're gonna sell it individually for 60 bucks could still right I they would just be nerfing why would you ever buy like the individual version if it's no no no a difference on the collection just do a bait and switch a bait and switch where they were they said and they still show the yeah but yeah they have pre-orders up right now in the e-shop they're taking people's money today do you really think anybody's gonna complain if they add two games to it for 60 bucks no but they're not gonna do that Nintendo's literally never taking pre-orders and then change what games are in the pre-order yeah unlikely I'm just saying that sounds very unlikely very un-Nintendo what Nintendo's do with Skyward Sword is very Nintendo like no oh yeah except for the caveat being what they did with Super Mario 3d L stars is very un-Nintendo like because they they could have just HD each of those individually and sold them for 60 and they didn't so they kind of set a precedent with that and then they're going back to their old ways I unless they're going with a different three and I'm part of the problem because I'm gonna buy it yeah unless you're going with a different three for yeah anniversary edition and this was just the one that they chose to leave out I doubt it I mean I know some people were hoping for there to be like an ochrino of time when Waker Twilight Princess package which who knows we'll get into you know actually you don't screw it we're talking about Zelda right now so I'll just take I think we can all agree that Skyward Sword is probably shouldn't be 60 bucks right yeah but Nintendo is doing Nintendo things and making it 60 for no if this was back on the Wii U it wouldn't be they wouldn't be doing this they'd be wanting you to buy it you know the be trying to keep play keep more to the fans who are who owned the Wii U they wouldn't charge so much for it but since this is on the switch and so it's you know successful they can they feel like they can get away with anything which they are it's weird too because Skyward Sword wasn't that successful back on the Wii mmm it really undersold expectations and it kind of directly led to them going with Breath of the Wild which it's kind of funny because you know Ejinoma brought that up and the thing is like hey this is the last main big Zelda we made before Breath of the Wild and changed everything up but it's like well yeah cuz this one bombed mm-hmm to what you expected of the sell on a system that had a hundred million sales this thing did not sell very well I mean right now Nintendo can basically shit out a Mario Party that only has four maps and it'll sell over what Skyward Sword sold like pretty much anything they put out on switch right now it sounds like like so this is probably gonna outsell I think the original Skyward Sword but speaking of this it was interesting with the Zelda part because obviously Ejinoma right away just like hey look we're not talking Breath of the Wild too it's not happening we got nothing it's like look I know you see me and you're like oh it's Breath of the Wild too tight and no but it's interesting because one he said we're you know they need more time but developments going well which I mean everyone always says that I don't know if they would ever tell you if development wasn't going well except being a three hello four years not seen it prime four mm-hmm like they did reboot that so I guess development wasn't going so well there but Ejinoma was like no developments going fine it just you know we're gonna probably talk about it later this year which is fine that's cool now we kind of just have that expectation of every director everything that happens okay is this when they're gonna talk about the what is this when is this one because now we just basically said look sometime later this year we're gonna talk about it reveal it you know do more than the initial trailer because I find the thing is we got that original trailer back at E3 2019 as just a oh shock the world moment no one expected that after you know just a year after the DLC wrapped up like what this really it was like that Twilight Princess kind of moment when that was revealed like right after the Wind Waker came out so it just shocked people but I find it hard to believe that they had the ability to create what clearly looks like some cutscene or whatever from the game in a trailer and here we are two plus years later and they can't produce a trailer of anything yeah using the same art style in the same engine I feel like there's something to this why they're not showing it right now when they could notice something they didn't mention in this direct by the time you guys do that I guess I'm not sure which day it is but this direct happened four days before the 35th anniversary of Zelda and they didn't even mention the 35th anniversary of Zelda didn't even say one word that the 35th anniversary is coming up oh you're right yeah or HD they didn't attach it to an anniversary so the thing is they celebrated the 20th the 25th and the 30th anniversary we just got the 35th anniversary for Mario they've celebrated the 30th anniversary of Fire Emblem albeit not in as spectacular of a fashion but they did we know it's also the 35th anniversary of Metroid this year which we'll see if Nintendo even acknowledges it because they don't really celebrate Metroid that they should in my opinion but then again Metroid has never been a huge seller for them so I don't know they keep making them yeah but they won't give it they they should acknowledge it they got if it got the right treatment I feel like it would sell better who knows Metroid Prime 4 they hyped up so we'll see you know what happens with that eventually and on Switch where everything just sells so well I think Trilogy it I really thought we were gonna get a Metroid trilogy announcement today yeah and not me I thought I was gonna be probably later in the year yeah when I didn't I didn't really oh jeez see Dave you remember the exact day I have in front of me now but it's this year yeah I know it's here I and that's the thing like I know the exact day for Zelda but I don't maybe there maybe they're waiting till then for trilogy drop maybe I my thing is the 35th anniversary around the corner and I said that okay I found it's not till August it's what it's August August yeah okay so maybe the summer they could they could maybe reveal it see my thing is I always thought they might not talk about the 35th anniversary of Zelda now because if you look at the way things are going next week is basically Pokemon City it's just Pokemon all the time 25th anniversary Pokemon companies going all out probably gonna get some new Pokemon games revealed more about the new Pokemon snap mobile games trading card information they're just gonna go all out because it's what the Pokemon company does so I was like maybe they just didn't mention it because look Pokemon's doing this thing let's not run anniversary celebrations into each other plus technically Mario is still going on and we got more a new look at the Mario content in Animal Crossing so my thought is though that when he says we're gonna do it later what he means is hey look we're clearly celebrating the 35th anniversary we're just not doing it right this second when we do well it's it's the anniversary year right so it doesn't have to necessarily be on the exact date yeah the same thing with Mario they didn't do it on the exact day for Mario either so that my thing is like okay they're gonna they they could you know some people oh there'll be a Zelda direct next week no there won't be because of Pokemon yeah they're not gonna run Pokemon week and Zelda into each other they can they can get away with it but they're not going to I don't think that that's like trying away from the Pokemon company who's a big partner for them they're not gonna do that but my thing is like well okay so you wait till March and you throw out a Zelda direct sometime after the dust is settled and people are you know getting ready for a monster to rise or whatever they're looking forward to and you big hey look we are doing something for the 35th anniversary of Zelda we're doing this today you can start pre-ordering you know they already mentioned like the Joy-Cons and the Skyward Sword like you oh by the way we also have a custom pro controller coming we also have a custom system coming out with Breath of the Wild 2 oh and by the way ended all Breath of the Wild 2 either coming this year or coming you know a spring of 2022 or whatever like they did with 3D world but the reason I feel this like there's everything working against them doing this they they revealed Skyward Sword HD and custom Joy-Cons without a mention of the 35th anniversary which can make you think are they just not gonna do anything this year yeah cuz I keep feeling like oh they're holding back but then why are we why we learning about Skyward Sword HD and custom Joy-Cons right now when those could have been like big things in the 35th celebration to extra well they want to sell you they want to sell you Skyward Sword right so yeah I discover sort of thing I I'm a bit more understanding of because they it they can I know Skyward Sword HD but then if they followed up with the Breath of the Wild 2 people won't even be talking about Skyward Sword HD right right and Twilight Princess and Wind Waker are more popular than Skyward Sword right yes yes so they can introduce those later in the year and do you Skyward Sword now and they can they can get your money multiple times yeah and there's nothing to say in that Nintendo won't have a collection of games it's just not gonna be the 3D Zelda's I don't think I think they're gonna be Twilight Princess HD and Wind Waker HD over on their own yep probably for 60 bucks based on what they're doing with Skyward Sword what I what I do think they could do is do a collection of the N64 games and and maybe linked to the past third in there or something as a 3-3 game collection classics yeah it'd be nice it's a good dream but here's the thing that they already technically remade Ocarina Time and Majora's Mask once and 3DS so like to get you know like an HD version of the N64 ones like they did with Mario 64 to me would just be like but it doesn't look as good as the 3DS at lower resolution now you can argue that instead but the DS version of Mario right 64 you could argue that looks better than the 64 version kind of like so I just don't I guess like when I see Ocarina Time and Majora's Mask again I want to see them actually give it the respect those games deserve and we're like I don't want them to necessarily find a fantasy 7 it they don't need to go that extreme because they don't need to fundamentally change the game to fit with the times they just know I agree it yeah and let the see let the gameplay do the talking I wish they did that but this is Nintendo so we don't know what they're just gonna repurpose them and just an HD and say hey we fix some textures here and there like Mario 64 and we're done 60 bucks thank you have a good day but we leave but but you package those all together yeah but those were limited time don't be sold forever right we threw in the dev blocks for free March 31st 2022 guys anyways enough on the Zelda stuff oh besides the joycon what do you guys think of the joycons I'm not interested in them personally because they have joycon drift so I'm not gonna worry about those same with every joy kind yeah yeah I need a new pair of joycons because my kids ripped the caps off the top of my joysticks I mine I could technically still use them but it hurts and I try buying replacement ones importing them on that's like the one part of the joystick that's an absolute bitch to put back together so yeah never went right and I've tried other covers on it and it's just no I need new joycons and I'm like every time I'm at the store man I let me just buy a pair because like I don't really use the joycons out that often but when I'm actually on the go is when I'm gonna use it and I do play on the go in a while so I'm like for when I'm in that situation I want you know joycons I'm kind of hope if I just don't use them enough they'll be fine I have some third-party ones that they're perfectly fine and acceptable but they don't fit in any of my switch cases yeah yeah now it's not like the satisfied rip or something it's they don't have a case for these ones but I'm like I just kept holding out cuz I'm like you know what 35th anniversary Zelda or Metroid we're getting something themed something joycon it's happening yeah and setting aside the themed systems are these the first themed joycons releasing on their own like that aren't just a color change I don't recall didn't they have a Mario thing last year joycons but they were just red I thought they had a Mario sticker on them I could be wrong I don't remember me that might have been third-party that might have been third-party pro controllers a lot of but a lot of the joycon stuff is like platoon was just pink and green yeah like it's you know blade had a color had a full color yeah and then that that was the big thing with the Mario red switch was like oh look they finally color swapped the whole system but it's like when I think the scoured store ones might be the first time we've had actual truly Nintendo made themed ones but maybe I'm wrong you know they're probably gonna do but they're probably gonna have a smash rolls one maybe some of those are just right no I know that's why I'm looking for actual Nintendo I know they had smash bro pro controller and that is much for obviously game to control there they're probably gonna have a gold Nintendo switch oh my god don't even watch out it's gonna happen and I'm gonna buy it they have Mario and Luigi joycon oh yeah yeah those are a little sideways hold those aren't those aren't that's an accessible I don't see anything that's yeah all all the joy cons I yeah they're just straight red yeah so I I don't know I think I just think it's interesting that they're finally doing it and they're doing it though why Zelda didn't get a custom console at launch I have no idea maybe they just didn't think the switch was gonna be popular I have no clue I mean can't can't blame him after the Wii U I suppose yeah never know on yeah no way it was together thank you yet you think you have a hit a success and even though according to regi regi fees a man a recent interview he's like hey I knew switch was gonna be a success yeah that's why I was okay retiring well you knew I don't know if anyone else at Nintendo knew high-inside 2020 I don't know I don't know Reggie like yeah while it was successful did you really think it was gonna be successful are you just trying to take credit for oh yeah that's how good I wasn't my job I knew back in 2015 I just knew look what well Reggie said there house his entire career as a Nintendo president it was always we're doing amazing of course we're successful it's a you know whatever even when we're not successful like hey like we're Nintendo man Reggie we always win in the end is the Wii U a failure Reggie no of course it's not I mean we had the two years of those losses but then that was only two years and the rest of the time we just make money what was on the market for four years Reggie that's half the time was on the market you lost money because of it well semantics don't worry about you do it have you seen the wild yet I'll I'll never forget Reggie in 20 like 2015 I think he was like the Wii U has a long life left in it guys he's like we have a lot of content and then like when you're later it's done I'm pretty sure they do it in the 2015 they're like yeah we're done with this next year like it just wasn't selling that's when they made the move to move breath of the wild over and as soon as that decision was made it's like yeah they gave up they're done yeah so I've never seen it see I don't remember Nintendo throwing in the tunnel on anything because the only thing that's really happened on was the virtual boy I just never even saw one of those in person as a kid to even know that does does more like a cord yank right there it's like yank done record yeah our glove and Rob but like you can still see them and buy them actively when I was a kid and those were just accessories so no one really cared if those failed yeah I think of Lobo has now gone right I haven't seen Lobo much anymore he stores at all granted a lot of things are sold out in general but honestly I think they never restocked it after the like there was a couple boxes I saw at GameStop before the holidays hit and I have not seen anything since which it's fine that they'll sold but it's like well they may be restocked as switch boxes I think you can still buy it on Amazon though I found I'll check right now I'm pretty sure you still get lab on Amazon but I'm sure you can I mean I saw I have a couple I have I have the first Labo kit with the piano and then I have the VR kit well double check here I mean yeah it's they're still you know they're even discounted prices they're trying to get rid of it so I mean Amazon can't even sell the nice so I would say it's probably safe at Nintendo's probably not really making Labo too much anymore but yeah they did have a hit with I would say Mario Kart live turned up pretty well for them yeah yeah all things considered I have my house it's actually a lot of fun a lot more fun than I thought it was gonna be so if you got they've got the space to use it it's it looks pretty fun and it actually surprisingly works on my carpet in the basement so that's what I was worried about but since it does it actually it's a lot of fun all right so so I guess at this you know do you guys think we're getting a Zelda 35th direct or anniversary celebration sometime and say let's give it two months or do you think Nintendo might just skip it I think they're gonna we're gonna have one but I have no idea when I think it might be later in the year maybe in the summertime or maybe around the time they did with the 35th of Mario which is like fall true in September that's possible October somewhere in there those special deals are more inclined to be like a holiday fall kind of like get you to buy with your presence kind of thing like with what they did with Mario yeah so I don't think necessarily they're worried about the date of the anniversary more than making money so I think they're gonna push that for more like a holiday thing speaking of making money we are so so we have games now like scheduled out through July the Skyward Sword landed in July so I was kind of looking at the schedule earlier and you know so basically it goes like bravely to fall to you know monster to rise new Pokemon snap Mario Golf Skyward Sword and then there's a bunch of really quality titles in between as we saw you know apex legends comes out during that period fall guys we just saw like a whole bunch of really good games on the way to Ninja Gaiden collection it kind of feels like this is one of the most packed first half of the years switches had yet and people still seem disappointed just because the directing give them everything they ever could dream of it's just interesting to me because I feel like Nintendo literally just perfectly set up their first half of the year they have like a major game coming out every month moving forward until we're probably gonna have another direct well what they got first party wise it's it's a lot of third party right they got going some reliance on third party yes from first party wise the Skyward Sword HG which who knows if they even did that that could have been a third party and then they have Mario Golf that I mean to me I'm I'm I'm still like Mario Golf made the whole thing for me to be honest was the restating that again what Mario Golf Golf their release date let's see that is June June June 25th yeah so okay yeah so that's their June game and I mean to me I know it's a sports title and they generally are not like giant movers of systems but I'm excited about it oh yeah cuz I've always enjoyed Mario Golf and this is one that brought back story mode so I don't know if it's gonna be any good we'll see I wish they would have confirmed online play but then again they probably would have did it the same way they did it with God Mario Party where it's like oh yeah you could play like one hole together yeah why can't we golf at least a nine can't do at least a nine no got one okay well you can golf one hole but it's it's in that dash mode which looks freaking fantastic dash mode looks looks great right but yeah what's your thoughts on a Mario Golf you're a big Mario Golf fan from back in the day what are your thoughts what did you think cuz I was more excited than you but you were excited but then you're kind of like how they messing this up yeah right yeah what's the catch with with the mess up of Crystal Chronicles it's kind of I know it wasn't Nintendo but still it's one of those things that it's again yes how are they gonna screw this up it's nostalgia getting in in the way and it's just like okay this looks great this seems great I'm waiting for the butt so we're not gonna get a button and advertisement all right I thought the bot was gonna be here's online but like it's only a really minute part of the game and you can actually like this dash mode looks great can I play it online with friends have no idea no you can only just randomly full golf though you know the mode that you'd want to play with your friends you can't yeah like the story mode fine that that's an individual story RPG mode I'm cool you don't have to play your friends with that but right the actual other modes of the game it's like yeah right come on now like Nintendo has always been kind of behind the ball with the with online but it's still it's like it's it's right there for the taking and that's what you thought with Mario Party it's like hey look we got a Mario Party I said oh finally we can play Mario Party online with friends oh sure a few mini games but it's literally a board game how could I not play that online with friends I could play it how come Ubisoft can give me Monopoly UNO all these games on switch that you could play online with people but Nintendo can't do like their only board game game unless you come to Meebo festival I get it's all it's all cost it's all costing in line with them developing their games with online in mind so if they're not thinking about it then they're not gonna put it in there or are you going to take Reggie's old excuse we believe in couch co-op in the middle of COVID when we can't get together couch co-op is the reason yep you're right what's their excuse for that right yeah yeah there's not full online and it's just like a little middling thing with this it's like okay it's still gonna be pandemic this summer and you're not letting us play online with Mario Golf that would be like people most people wouldn't even get to enjoy the modes in the game think about it like if you get COVID they go awesome it would be like you get COVID and Nintendo could be like hey it's okay if you're you know it sucks that you're sick and you're down and up but guess what you can grab your switch and play with your friends oh wait except you can't yeah I mean because we don't enable it yeah you're right though they really should be uh they really should be adding that for all their games going forward just because it's such a huge player right like yeah right wouldn't you not it's standard besides them just their teams being like oh yeah there's online the the internet exists one of the things that I can think of though is maybe their new online infrastructure isn't quite prepared for the amount of people to use it well okay say I bite on that new super mario 3d world with buzzer fury isn't using the new one it's using the old one so why can't they just use the old one then they just did it with mar super mario 3d world because it's a new game and they don't want to go backward I don't I again okay we're we're projecting an issue that we don't even know if it exists I'm trying I'm just trying to devil's advocate to we're just kind of assuming it is because it's nintendo that to me is always the but okay what's the online okay there's the mess up there's the screw up oh does it have drm oh no oh one thing I wanted to mention about drm okay this is this fits into pretty much anything nintendo releases so nintendo obviously was really pissed off that's super mario 3d world plus buzzer fury leaked okay and they get pissed off every time this happens because it happens with every game either a media member you know chucks it up online or if you know some retail son of a person at a retailer ends up getting a copy early in and leaking it always ends up happening and people are always playing these games and leaking everything ahead of time it's been happening on switch ever since it turned out that it was really easy to hack a tech rax one back in the day a little bit harder in the newer switches but still if there's so many of the old ones out there doesn't really matter it's going to get hacked it's going to get leaked so this is something that I had thought about and I'm curious on your guys's thoughts to a solution for this and this because I kept this whole time that this thing I've had I kept thinking what happens when breath of the wild 2 leaks it's like the nightmare of nightmares for them breath of the wild 2 leaking and just the whole games out there and millions of people are playing it before it's even released because that's a lot of store heavy story elements in it they're not going to want to get out and I see a lot of brick switches in the future if that happens well Nintendo does try to do that but the I think that what this is something I didn't know there's always day one patches for games right here's my here's my here's my idea people are going to hate this but maybe you should there's always day one patches for pretty much every game in existence right so what if they started baking in to the copies they print out a DRM system that forces you to have to be online to play the game before launch date and then on launch date you get a patch that takes it away that would stop all the leaks until like it's hacked eventually but it would at least slow it way the hell down yeah but what if you're a viewer you know and you have a online issue you know what's going to happen then well tough luck what's more important to the Nintendo the reviewer having the smoothest possible experience not worried about DRM or a reviewer bitching about DRM that people aren't actually going to experience in real life as long as the game doesn't get leaked like what what what matters more the game being leaked or the reviewer potentially losing connection with the with a DRM check they have to do at the very beginning of their gameplay session they might not even have to do it again after that it just be a literal online check quick to boot the game up then just play doesn't matter if that you could literally disconnect from the internet they might be able to do that I remember Breath of Wild on the Wii U leaked uh before it was released yeah and uh that was pretty bad about that the reps I had at the time were like messaging me and emailing me did you do it did you I'm like no oh my god I didn't even get a review copy you wouldn't give me one how could I leak it right they thought they sent me a code and I'm like no you didn't it's okay back at the Zelda Farmer days I'm like you didn't actually send me a code I requested one and you said we'll see they were really yeah they were not happy that happened that's why I'm like when we get into the fact that you know and now there's all the games coming around a lot of games when they leak it's not as big of a deal like Super Mario 3D World leaking not too big of a deal even though Bowser's Fury gets spoiled a little bit because it's mostly a gameplay experience uh then it is story but like Nintendo doesn't have a lot of heavy story driven games except for games like Fire Emblem games like uh obviously Zelda and you know even the Pokemon Company gets absolutely pissed when they're games leak like they just start nuking retailers and yanking copies and canceling pre-order like Pokemon Company hates when things get leaked so my thing is like I kind of feel like there is a positive side to a temporary pre-release DRM people always view DRM as the absolute devil and for the most part I agree I get us to stop piracy but honestly once a game's out there and it's public and you can purchase it if people want to pirate the game they're gonna figure it out but I think a pre-release to slow it down especially when you know your system's been completely hacked and you can't do anything about those hack switches for the most part because as long as they don't connect to the internet you can't brick them but you require that oh to launch this you need to you need to connect to the internet quick I mean I can see them doing that how many switches they can brick by doing that too that's how you they get into breaking a bunch of switches oh you connected oh your switch is hack-pricked yeah that would be funny because people would be like oh we don't care oh we gotta connect quick to play Breath of Wild 2 let me just hit the wi-fi button on quick and your switch is done don't know how many people are happening their hack switched like right away risk turning on their hack switches at that point if they had that that ramen yeah yeah I remember the Wii version or sneaky if in pre-release copies the whenever you go to boot up the game it actually goes into the file system and turns your wi-fi on right that would be even that would be really sneaky because the only people that should care about that are people who hack their switches that Nintendo doesn't want you illegally playing their game anyways yeah I remember the other the Wii version of Breath of Wild leaked but the switch version of course didn't because the switch wasn't out yet so it's like not enough media members even had there was very few media members with a switch pre-release they were very careful on that and obviously none of those switches were hacked at that point either so um so that's kind of just an idea I have when DRM came I'm like oh you know what I actually thought about this like I don't I don't like DRM I think it's pointless and it hurts real consumers but a DRM that's patched out day one the only thing I could think of are people that don't have internet and might buy it but then I keep thinking how many people could buy a switch that don't have access to internet anywhere especially if you put like a thing in the box when you buy it because if you're buying it online well you bought it online so clearly you have access to the internet if you bought it in person you could literally just have like a little instruction thing in the pamphlet saying hey if you don't have internet you know go to a free wi-fi hotspot quick update the game be done it's a little 10 megabyte download yeah play the game mm-hmm like it can even put it on the box like online check required and you know or whatever I don't know like I know it's going to be a big controversy and people are going to piss off and I'm like well how else is Nintendo going to stop leaks they can't yeah well I mean the yeah they have the day one patches and the day one updates but that's not really DRM so yeah and like sometimes they won't have like the online modes available like before the game launches is like their way of oh we're really gonna hold we're gonna restrict the online gameplay but it's like but they already have the game anyways they'll just set up a private server and play anyways so what yeah I yeah I don't know it's just an idea because as we're getting into a full year directs or back we're getting a bunch of major releases I'm like man Monster Hunter Rise is gonna leak Mario Golf's gonna leak Skyward Sword oh it definitely will leak Skyward Sword isn't that a good deal since they didn't even add anything new to it but Skyward Sword is yeah it's already like great like Bravely Default 2 is gonna be out there like and and I'm sure third parties might appreciate it as like an idea like I'm surprised nobody at Nintendo has actually come up with this idea like hey why don't we try this maybe I mean I guess they're worried about backlash but actually come to think of it I think every single ROM of the new releases that are bigger or big biggy or whatever they have leaked lately yeah Yeah. Because- For the switch. All you need is someone with a hack switch to get a hold of a copy, one way or another. They dump it, it's over. Yeah, that's it. Once you get on the online, it's out there. Clearly, some retailer, somewhere, somewhere has the hookup, and they keep getting the hookup, and they keep not getting caught. Yeah. And I know Nintendo's tried clever things. They've tried putting like undetectable codes in the game files, so like they get tracked out where that specific copy came from. But yet, they still haven't stopped it, even though they have that, you know? Yeah, their console's way- They're being denied copies, so it's like, is it literally, like straight off the manufacturing line, does someone have the hookup? Like- Yeah, not only that, but they have- China, you know? They have emulators out there too that run the switch, no problem. So it's like, you find those ROMs, you could run the game without even having to switch. Yeah. That's what that, I mean- It's bad. It's really bad out there, and I kind of feel bad. Oh, I feel bad in so much for, I don't feel bad when certain games leak, because it's like whatever. You know, like I said, with Skyward Sword leaks, it's whatever. We already know all about that game. But, you know, I do feel bad for developers when you spend all this time trying to hype up a game to a certain point where everyone's gonna have this worldwide experience at the same day, and then it's kind of like taken away where people gotta avoid being on the internet, avoid going on social media for weeks at a time, leading up to the launch of a game where they should be hyping up with other fans, leading up to the launch of a game. And I see this come up in a lot of my live streams where it's like, I get it. Like I don't know, unless they do DRM, I don't know how they're gonna stop it until they replace the Switch with Next Gen, and they make a Switch that's harder to hack. I don't know, you know, what they're gonna do because as long as the games keep coming out on the OG Switch, they're kind of screwed. Yeah, I think they will do that for the new Switch. I think they will make it better like that. Eric, were there any other games that this stood out to you from this direct? No, Mario Golf was the one for sure. Mario Golf was the one. I did like that zombie game. That one looked pretty fun. I was just trying to figure out what it was called again. Not the Plants for Zombies. No, no, no, no, the other one. I don't remember that one. It was some indie game where you were a zombie and you were turning everyone else into zombies. Stubbs the zombie. Stubbs the hells. Stubbs the hells. There you go. Oh, okay. That one looked funny. It did look funny. It looked like a game for you. Right. I know you were super excited about... Legend of Mana. Legend of Mana. Well, that looks really good. That looks really good. Looks good. I'm a huge Mana series fan. I know we used to play it back in the day. Oh, yeah. Well, Secret of Mana used to be my favorite game and then they brought over the third one and now we get this one, so I'm stoked. And our style looks really good. Oh, yeah. It's straight out of my childhood. I love it. Straight out of our childhood, to be completely honest. Yeah. It's not like we're all, you know, so far apart. Dave, was there any other games besides the big ones that really stood out to you? I can't think of anything in particular right now. Angle, strategy, the Clearly Octopath Traveler sequel. Yeah, but I'm not really into those type of RPGs necessarily. And they kind of made that into, it's weird. They changed it into like a Fire Emblem style combat system too. It's weird. Yeah, I'm not really into that per se. The art style looks fantastic. I love the art style. It's beautiful. Literally Octopath Traveler all over again. Right, but like as far as the gameplay, I'm not really too interested in that, but No More Heroes 3 looked really fun. Like the gameplay looked really cool. I like the additional type of combat maneuvers they have in that. So I'm really interested in No More Heroes 3. No More Heroes 3, a lot of No More Heroes fans have been like waiting for a real look at the game cause we've had like these weird gameplay, like really weird teases. That's just what the guy behind this game does. He's always been really eccentric at how we. I love that guy. I love him. I met him at E3. Was it the first gameplay for No More Heroes 3 showed off in the background with him in the foreground talking? Yeah. Like covering up 70% of the screen. Yeah. I'm like, what the hell is going on? That's just what he does. Is that kind of like digital? Have you guys played it on the Switch? No More Heroes 1 and 2? I have not played it on the Switch, but I have played the games. I have not. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, that game is all about the style, you know, in your face dialogue. It's just like really funny. Yeah, and I think what was great about seeing that finally, like I saw some people in the chat while I was streaming that being like, finally we get to like really look at this game instead of these weird teases here and there. And I think what was nice about No More Heroes 3 trailer is it made people relieved. I think almost every No More Heroes fan that saw it was like, all right, that's what we wanted. Okay, we're good. Like, you're always worried a little bit because like the last, you know, Travis Touchdown, the last Strikes Again thing wasn't necessarily what people wanted, but here's this. This is exactly what we wanted, we're good. Yeah, this looks good. I'm not screwing around now. They're making a real No More Heroes, basically. Mm-hmm, yeah, that's what you want. Hades physical edition? I don't know if any of you guys play Hades. I'm not excited for it, but I mean, I've, it's just, it's a good game, but yeah, I have. No, it's good, but I'm not interested in buying the physical version, so that's just it. But yeah, I think the physical, well, for mega fans, the physical version's a big deal because it comes with a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, the art book and I think soundtrack. Yes, yes, the soundtrack and cover it. To me, I've seen the gameplay, it looks like a fun game. I don't really care too much about the physical release, but the box art is fantastic on that thing. It's so beautiful. No, it is gorgeous. Like, if people just want a collector's item and they, yeah, it's one of the best indie games around, so. I have one. What's that? I have one. Let's talk about the most WTF, why is this here? We learned absolutely nothing. Star Wars hunters. Yeah, what was that about? Well, I'm gonna even look, does that keep existing anywhere, have we seen this game anywhere? I don't remember Star Wars. So Star Wars, no, it's been a trailer. Yeah. No, no, no, this is like the first time they've unveiled this game. This is the unveiling of Star Wars Hunters, which I assume is gonna be a multi-platform. Well, I don't know, it's made by a mobile developer. It's a multiplayer shooter coming later this year. Yeah, it's made by a mobile developer. Let me look at the end of the trailer here, which is like five seconds long, so it's not that bad. Right, the same guys who made Modern Combat. So it's made by Zynga, or published by them. It's either made by Zynga or Natural Motion Games. So those are both mobile developers. So. Did they make Modern Combat? Oh, I think so, actually. I think so. Modern Combat, remember that was like the only military shooter we could play? Oh my gosh, those are the sad days. Published by Gameloft Develop, no, Gameloft was behind it, so. Oh, okay, they do iOS. Zynga is, God, they're one of those Candy Crush or one of those other games out there behind that. But like, so, to me it's like, it's gonna be a mobile game that's also on Switch. And that's why they didn't show us anything. They just said, hey, Switch is getting a Star Wars game. Yeah. I'm watching the trailer right now. It's a door that opens. Yeah, it really did show a whole lot. Oh, there's some lightsabers, some ghosts, and then a lightsaber lights up in the background and you're done, you know nothing about this game. Have a good day. Yeah, right. It's like, to me, it's basically like when they announced Bayonetta 3. Here's a CGI thing of Bayonetta, like looking at the camera and then she shoots her light gun and hey, you're getting Bayonetta 3. Yeah. You mean, okay, so she's doing what she does in every other game. Can we, no, nothing unique here? Oh, I mean, back to the old hairstyle. Okay, okay, that's it, all right. Next. I mean, I'll give up on this. It's slightly, slightly better than Metroid Prime 4's reveal. That was just the logo. Because at least here we got a logo and then you've got some stuff you can at least speculate on like certain Star Wars characters that appear in the holographs. So like, at least there's something to speculate on, but I mean, but you don't know what the game is. You just know that at first you get excited, then you see Zynga and I'm like, oh no, this is the Star Wars game they're giving us, they're giving us, they're giving us what's gonna be a mobile game on Switch. They're not the only ones, by the way, there's a ton. If you guys ever go in the eShop, there's actually a ton of like phone games. And most of them don't work very well because they didn't take into account anything about the Switch. Oh, Switch also has a touchscreen. It's just like a phone. So we'll just slap it on there. Yeah. EShop is a cesspool for that. Like we can charge money for this when we have to make it free to play on the other one. So we're gonna charge you a dollar or $2 for it and charge you micro-transactions on top or you just download it for free on your phone. Yeah, right. But, and have a better gameplay experience because it was never built for Switch. Yeah, all I remember after that trailer is like, what? Yeah, I didn't even realize it was Star Wars at first. I kind of looked away because it was so quick. I think maybe one of my kids watching the door and I'm like, this is such a quick thing that I admit. How do I miss a Star Wars announcement? Oh, Hunters. Oh, we saw no gameplay. Okay, what's the point? It was definitely jaw-dropping, what? Like 30 seconds, right? Less than 30 seconds? Not at 26, I think I looked at your screen and it said 26. Yes, it was. I don't want the one Zelda thing we've got to talk about. Age of Calamity, yes, either of you play Age of Calamity? I have not. Nope. Nope. I mean, that would be in the Warriors games or it's not really worth it, to be honest. Even no matter how big a Zelda fan you can be. It's cool, like just, I always tell people like if you don't like Warrior style games, don't buy Hyrule Warriors or any of the Hyrule Warriors games, it's not going to make you like it. If you just care about the story, go watch the cutscenes online whenever it comes up. Yeah, I played the Wii U back when I count and that was it. Like, okay, that's enough for me. Yeah, so. I mean, this one was a lot more story-driven than the original Hyrule Warriors was. Not surprising since Nintendo had more direct involvement. But it is cool that they're doing DLC. No surprise, 20 bucks. You know, two passes plus a pre-order bonus. And they're the same for Wii U and the other two, right? Same for Wii U and I think they did it for Fire Emblem Warriors too. Warriors games are known for a really beefy $20 DLC pack, so not too surprised. Apparently, although it teases zero story stuff in these, they note in the press email that there are new story elements added in. So for people that care about potential canon stuff that they can maybe link to Breath of the Wild, Breath of the Wild 2, technically there's gonna be some new story elements being added in. So that's why primary interest in it is just the new story stuff. I think I really enjoyed Age of Calamity. I think it was better than the original Hyrule Warriors. But maybe I always think maybe the reason it was better is I feel like the characters had a better variety of attacks and that's what made it more fun. They really tailored it to like, like the four champions felt like you would think the four champions should feel like. So that to me was really, the champions really was what sold me. Then you have the other playable characters, which is whatever. Yeah, some people love games. Yeah, I mean, I think they're really good, but I mean, if you're not into hack and slash, it's literally a hack and slash. So yeah, for sure. It's like trying to get, you know, Supermodel Dave into Autopad Traveler when it's just not, it's just not going to click. You need to find the best seven, not that. Or something like that. I don't even know what games you play in the RPG realm, so. No, I like the additional JRPG stuff, but the strategy stuff like Fire Emblem type stuff, the, you know, going about the map and everything, I'm not really into that. I agree with all that, yeah. Yeah. So I'm just kind of glancing at some of the other stuff that was revealed that we could talk about. The other left field one, Metopia. Meto, okay. You guys remember Metopia? The 3DS game? Yeah, I do. Did you play it? I never played it, but I remember when they were advertised in it, because like back then, you could meet Reggie, Iji and Nomu, Shigeru Miyamoto, Ancetor Iwata in the game and like get to know things like their favorite foods and like literally you could meet them in the game. Like it was really, really cool. Well, they didn't do that this time around. They didn't say you can meet any of them. Now it's just all about your friends, which is what it really was about anyways. But Metopia was such a weird game. Yeah. And it's back, like who? I'm sorry, you guys watching, I want you to look me in the eye right now and tell me, oh yeah, Metopia, that course that was coming. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. That really obscure 3DS game about me's and interacting, it's got battles, but then like you can get pissed off at people in that fight. What? That's the game we're getting? Okay, we are. Metopia lives on. Next thing you're going to tell me we're getting another Rusty's Real Deal Baseball. Trying to think of what I was going to say. I actually thought that game was fun. It was fun, but so was Metopia. It's just one of those weird games that you just don't see Nintendo making and then they just do it and throw it out there. Like I would fully expect a new Nintendox before we got this. Oh yeah, what happened to that series, damn. It's simply popular. It's like I'm totally that or another Wii sports kind of game. But no, here we go. I was going to say almost a Wii Fit kind of game, but they kind of did that with Ring Fit. But maybe they're just bringing the Miis back into play so they can bring the Wii Sports. I just felt like they abandoned Miis and now like, oh, let's bring them back. Now we can bring them back so we can bring the Wii Sports over. Oh boy, that's what it is. They're setting up. They're setting up. The Wii versions of games come in now. They're setting it up. Droll, we're getting scared. Watch out. Yeah. Yeah. It comes to the back, baby. To be fair, I actually liked the motion controls in Skyward, so maybe there'll be less shit on the Switch. We'll see. There's not a lot of motion control games on Switch to really know how well the motion controls work. But they should be. You would assume the technology, the gyroscopes and all that. The accelerometers. Are better, but who knows. Otherwise, just going through it, anyone care about the Ninja Gaiden master collection at all? Me, not really. No. Yeah, I didn't grow up playing Ninja Gaiden so I don't really have much affinity, but I know some people are happy about that. I like the originals on the NES, but not the, I like the original games, but the new stuff, I'm not really too into those. Yeah. I know there was a few people in our chat when we were doing our reaction video. Oh, they were hyped about that. There were a few people that were hyped on it. So I guess one thing we haven't talked about is what they kicked off the whole show with. Oh yeah. Smash Bros. Got a new character. Shows how much we care about that character. Now we haven't talked about it yet. That's what I'm assuming. Maybe I shouldn't put thoughts into your guys' minds. Maybe you really do care about this, but we just forgot about it. For character for Smash, which is everyone thought that we're gonna get a new character reveal. It's another sword fighter, but it's basically Pyra and Mithra as one character that you can swap between the two. For those that don't know, if you don't know who Pyra and Mithra is, because Eric wasn't obviously aware he has never really played the CW series. They are characters from Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and that's really all you need to know. Go play the game if you wanna know more. I don't really wanna, the Xenoblade games are a very heavy story, so I don't really wanna spoil anything for those that haven't played those games, but yeah. And no, not like the same game like Shulk. A lot of people know Shulk from the OG, this Rex, the one that has Rex in it, the guy with the blue suit. That's where these characters came from. And I know, I haven't beat it yet, but I've played Xenoblade Chronicles 2. What do you guys think about that character addition? I mean, Eric, I know it's probably gonna be completely indifferent because he's never heard of it in his life. Pretty much. How about you, Dave? Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is my least favorite of the series, so I'm not interested, unfortunately. Yeah, and it was like the best-selling one, so I'm not really surprised they threw it in. Like, I know some people are upset because it's like another sword character, but it's like, yeah. I mean. Welcome to Xenoblade? Some people were saying, oh, it's another anime character. I'm like, it's a Nintendo IP. What? Yeah, right. I mean, it's like complaining there's another cartoon character. If it's from a Nintendo... I have a hard time complaining about characters that come from Nintendo IPs in a Nintendo fighting game. Yeah. Even if I... People... I might want Waluigi instead, but I'm not gonna complain that a different Nintendo IP character got in. Like, there's gonna be lots of fans of that character and it's part of Nintendo's history, so. People were hoping Dante or Sora was gonna be in there, but hey, maybe next time. Yeah, I mean, we're not done. I think there's what, three fighters left? I think so. So, there's still hope. They've been getting some third parties in there. We'll see. They've been kind of going with this every other third party, first party, third party, first party, so we'll see. I'm expecting a third party character next. I don't know. I don't know if Sora can ever get in. I would... Maybe not. I would love that Sora in, you guys gotta remember that Kingdom Hearts isn't just about Square Enix. Disney's involved. So Disney's very protective of things, so it's licensing. Even though I would assume the rights to Sora are owned by Square, I don't know. And none of us should know because we're not involved in making the games. So I'll... Right. And to have Sora in the game with a key blade but have no reference to the Disney characters would just feel wrong. Like a final smash has to have the Disney characters. And it's Disney gonna be cool with that. Mickey and Smash, woo! After all, remember, Nintendo partnered with Universal, not Disney. Yes. For the Nintendo theme parks. Yes. So that's also... Disney has a lot of shade like that behind the scenes, like, oh wait, you work with our competitor, FU. So I don't know that you should ever expect, sorry, Dante, different story. That could happen. Dante I think could happen. Based on the other characters we've got, Dante could happen, but anyways. Yeah, you know, for those of you who are excited about it, great, hey, we talked about it finally. You probably were waiting this whole podcast to hear us say something about the Smash Bros. stuff. We did it. Congrats. Character models are awesome. I'm happy for you guys. I recognize two of us right away. All the character models? Well, they're a little bit more reserved than in the game. Let's just say the bull... Because they have to be. That's covered in the original game. Yeah. Mm-hmm. They gotta consider that this is not... There's like five-year-olds playing this game. Right. Which granted, the funny thing is five-year-olds are the ones that are gonna care the least because they don't really understand. Right. Okay, so there's some boobies. All right, mom has boobies. What's the difference? Yeah. But we gotta worry about, I guess, maybe about the horny teenagers that might jack off during a... Hey, don't tell me teenagers don't jack off to weird crap, okay? I'm not saying a word. Dude, I've walked in on some people when I was growing up. The weirdest of things they're looking at. So, smash bros, but not surprise me, okay? I've seen enough people yanking it off to bouse that, so. Oh, Lord. Kids do the darndest things. Bouse that. Kids do the darndest things. Kids do the darndest things. Yeah. So I guess that leaves us with the big announcement at the end, Splatoon 3. Dave, got any thoughts on Splatoon 3? Not probably. It looks really good, like, graphically. Like, if that's actual, like, in-game, I don't think it is, though, some of it. In-game, but I feel like towards the end, it was in-game. Right? Yeah, I mean, it looks... Yeah, it looks really good for a Splatoon game. I'm just not particularly interested in that series. It came out in 2015 on the Wii U. I never really got into it too much, so. But for Splatoon fans, it's amazing looking. I'm sure the fans will love that game. Well, what I found interesting is we weren't sure if Splatoon was gonna be, like, smash and Mario Kart, where you get one per generation, because we've only had two of them. Now we know. We're getting one during the Switch era again. So that means, hey, you get as many Splatoons as you want. What I kind of find funny, and maybe I'm just sick-minded, I'll look at that Splatoon 3 logo, and I'm sorry. I can't help but see a penis that wraps into a three. Yeah, yeah, I see. I'm sorry. I'll throw it up on screen for you guys. Tell me that it does not look like a penis wrapping into a three. I get that it's a squid, but I mean, it could have did something better. That's provocative. And the moment someone points that out to Nintendo, it'll probably change. What was that, that Mario level that they had, that kind of thing? Yeah, we're clearly one of the designers of that level made of tick and balls. Yeah. Yeah. And I still can't, I still can't. Hard to believe they left that in too. So maybe Nintendo's copier, they don't care. Nintendo's just being like Disney. What? That's what Disney does. Dude, Disney does it a lot. They're doing the same kind of stuff as Disney. A lot. And children never notice, they're too innocent. Yeah. So anyway, just kind of recap some more. We know that they gave some PR about this. It said in this new game, in the Splatoon series, you'll leave Inkopolis, which is where we've been for the last couple of games, and you go to a new region called the Splatlands. At its heart is a new city where Battle Savvy Inklings and Octolings gather called Splatsville, also known as the city of chaos. Splatoon 3 introduces various new features to the action shooter series, including weapons, such as the bow weapon, which we did get to see a little tease of at the very beginning, and then customization options and new movement abilities to bring the returning 4v4 turf war matches. More information about the full-fledged sequel coming to Switch 2022 will be revealed in the future. So it looks like, you know, they're doing, even maybe more changes with this game than they did between Splatoon 1 and Splatoon 2. I play the hell out of Splatoon. I did it on Wii U, and I did it again on Switch. And I will say this, out of every game I've ever played on a live stream, Splatoon 2 is the one that just really everyone enjoyed. Even if they didn't like it, they just, as a live streaming game, Nintendo has found a way to make a competitive game that can also just be absolutely silly and nobody cares, but also as serious as you want. Kind of like smashing away. So like, yeah, it's just, it's a lot of fun. I really enjoy it. I, honestly, I was shocked, but maybe I shouldn't have been. I don't know. I always thought we were gonna get like another Mario Kart or something before we ever got a Splatoon 3, or, you know, even like an Arms 2, which I expect is gonna exist someday. But Splatoon is obviously a much bigger deal than Arms, so. I mean, I think. Mario Kart's a 30, like a 30 million seller Mario Kart, so I think they're gonna wait for a new console. See, I was thinking about that 30 million seller thing, right? Cause some people expected Mario Kart 9 today. And I think that there's two ways that go about it. One, we're just not getting Mario Kart 9. They'll launch the next system with it. Okay, fine. Or, or, Nintendo, whether or not we wanna believe this, Interferacabo recently came up and said, hey, we're just entering the midway point of the system. Well, as of March 4th, that's the first day of year five. The very first day of year five of Switch. So, if we're at the midway point, that gives us at least four more years. They can release Mario Kart 9 literally next year and just still sell 30 million of that over three years. Now, I think it all depends on Nintendo's strategy. They can sit on Mario Kart 8 and who maybe gets to 40 million someday. I have no idea. But they can sit on it or Nintendo can continue to make the library. Like, I think I'm of this mind that Nintendo has made a mistake in almost every generation where for the final year of a system, they just stop making games and don't care. And they just say, nope, we're waiting for the next one to launch. Feels like they do that every single time. Yeah. And I hate that. I'd rather them take on the Sony strategy where like some of the very best games on the platform come out in that last year. And you just remaster them the first year for the next system. But like, I wanna see Nintendo maybe look at it as, we don't have to wait for Mario Kart 9. Just drop it now. We can do a Deluxe version on the next system. Like you did with 8. Yeah. Get back and draw the DLC. Like, I wanna see them just continue to release bangers, which again, so two and three is a banger. It's gonna sell very, very well. Could sell over 10 million like the second one did. It's a big deal game. I hope this is a trend that we're gonna see that keep releasing big games. So not only does the Switch live up to the, hey, look, it is gonna be an eight year platform minimum, that they're gonna keep releasing big games leading all the way up into the next gen. So then it's more of a seamless transition where, hey, we had something so like, oh, here's our new system. Go get that if you want to play the new Zelda game next year or whatever. It depends on what you wanna consider their new system. They're not waiting until 2025 or 2024 to release a new upgraded Switch or something. So, yeah. That's a whole another story, but like. Well, the moment that he said, hey, look, we're entering the midway point. I'm like, okay, so you think there's four or five more years? That's the case, Switch Pro is happening. We can't go five years without another Switch. No, it's a mobile console. It doesn't work that way. Nintendo always upgrades their mobile consoles. Yeah, there's going to be some, I mean, I think it's gonna come this year. I think it's gonna come for holiday of this year. But what do I know? We've been thinking every year it's gonna come and then it doesn't. So, we'll see, there's been so much smoke. For Rukawa has been talking a lot about hardware lately and he continues talking about this hardware all the time. Like, why are you talking about hardware so much? You know, like, well. We're talking about hardware. We're always making new hardware. We're always this, we're always that. Oh, hey, we don't have anything to announce soon. Well, okay, soon could be like a week or it could be six months. Yeah, this year, he's a little bit too much in my opinion. A little bit too much of a, you know, over the hump there for what? Like, here's the thing. They're not gonna talk about it now, guys, because they're trying to, the Switch is selling out. Why would they mention a new Switch right now? But that's why I think, you know, once the dust settles, the Switch is easy, relatively easy to get in every form on shelves right before the holidays. Hey, look, Oh, Breath of the Wild 2 is coming. By the way, we have a custom Switch Pro system launching with Breath of the Wild 2 and that's also the launch date of Switch Pro. Have a good day. Something like- Or whatever, yeah. It could be a different major game they do it with, but. Or Prime Chilogy or whatever they're doing. Yeah, whatever it is. Hey, you and the Prime Chilogy. Yes. Chilogy to happen. So I'm not, I'm not knocking you there. It's just, the Metroid games just haven't been as big of a deal as Nintendo probably wants them to be, but. Yeah. Well, I mean, because they're not releasing them. Big deal. Like if Mario Golf goes on to sell over five million, I'm sorry. Like, then we need to start. Any, I- Didn't paper Mario? That needs to come back. We need to- Didn't paper Mario sell over three million? Paper Mario? Oh, Paper Mario, yeah. Yeah. I think it sold over three million and that wasn't, wasn't even that great. Let me, let me look. I think the new Paper Mario on Switch is actually the best selling one in the series. Yeah, and people, and I don't even think that's that great of a Paper Mario game, but, you know. Hey. Let me see. Back in November, it was at 2.82 million, so probably over three after the holiday. Yeah. For that, it's amazing for that series. Fastest selling game at the time when that paper Mario, for Paper Mario games, yeah, Paper Mario games. So Metroid, Metroid Prime 4, that could easily get over five million, six million, seven million easily. That would get, that'd be a record for Metroid. There's, you know, I always think like, this is like the time with how successful Switch is and how long they want the lifespan to be. I'm like, this is now, like, we should be getting at zero coming back. Yeah. We should get a real dedication to a new Star Fox game coming back. Now's the time. Real Star Fox. All these obscure franchises are going to sell on the system. So what are they waiting for? Well, I, the only thing I say, what are they waiting for is 2020 obviously was kind of a weird year. Weird year for everyone, to be honest. And Nintendo just kind of rested on their laurels. They released a couple of big games and they just kind of left it at that, relied on ports. And I try to be nice to them because you know what, everyone was affected by the pandemic and Nintendo is a company that's been known to slow react to changes in the industry. So like as everyone, the rest of the energy figures out how to still release triple A games during COVID, Nintendo was probably still trying to figure out how to set up home computers to keep programming. Cause that's just, Nintendo's always behind in that regard. So I kind of said, look, 2020 is kind of the reset year. We got to figure out how to make this work when we can't always be in the office. So they took the whole year to figure it out. Now we're getting the games. They're kind of back on track from what I could. Granted, not a ton of Nintendo first party games talked about in this direct. Mario Golf and Splatoon 3. Yeah, Splatoon 3, which isn't coming. Zelda Skyward Sword is a dolphin port. Potentially they did Skyward Sword HD in-house because it doesn't look like much was done to it. So potentially maybe part of the Zelda team, like our team of 20 people did that or something. But we didn't really hear much from them. Like Nintendo clearly has games in the works. So I kind of think second half of the year is when we're just gonna get just balls to the wall. Nintendo just gonna drop at least three big games. So we'll see. I think we already know Pokemon is gonna be one of the games, but that's not Nintendo, so. Yeah, it's gonna be one of those remakes from the original. That's what it sounds like, yeah. I mean, I don't know people hoping for- Let's go, it's gonna be a let's go series game. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. I guess let's end it with this, okay? What I got out of this on the positive side is one, Nintendo Directs are back, they're not dead. Yay. Everyone thought they were dead and Nintendo never said they were dead. They're back, they're good. The guy in the Direct, sorry that I forgot his name, mentioned at the end that, hey, we're gonna have more stuff coming in the future, AKA, hey, there's gonna be more Directs this year. This isn't just a one-off, there's gonna be more. So that was nice to see, whether or not it's at E3, if they're even doing the E3 digital thing or if they do their own thing. Cause I still think they'll do something in June. Just feels like the right time. So they're gonna be future Directs, it sounds like maybe this is the sign that Nintendo's getting back on track with their media stuff. So maybe we'll start getting more regular individual Game Directs, regular Indie worlds, regular everything, regular partner showcases if they bring those back this year. Which is good news, meaning we're set up to get more news about things coming to Switch more consistently. That's one positive takeaway I got out of this. Two, that Nintendo still has some surprises at their sleeves, Splatoon 3. And honestly, even if people thought Splatoon 3 could happen, who thought Mario Golf was coming? And Mario Golf was coming with a single-player story mode. Like they haven't put that much effort into a Mario Sports game. I don't know, what's it been? 20 years? Maybe some Strikers? I don't think that had a ton of effort in that one. What? Mario Tennis. And but even Mario Tennis, like if you play the single-player Mario Tennis, it's pretty canned. Yeah. It doesn't really feel like a high effort. The gameplay is great. They nailed the gameplay. It's just Mario Tennis, that single-player mode, they just kind of dropped the ball. Yeah, I think the golf is the most they've done. From what I could tell. But it looks, I mean, we'll know when it comes out, but so besides that, I mean, I'm sure people will point out some other games in this Direct that Nintendo's publishing, but that's Nintendo publishing. That's not, oh, I got his name up. Yeah. What is it again? Shinya Takahashi. Oh yeah, Shinya Takahashi, yeah. I always forget his name. I know he's like the new guy they've been putting at the face of Directs for like the last couple years. Cause I guess Shintura Furukawa doesn't want to be on camera. And for some reason, they don't want Doug Bowser to be like a thing. He did one show, right? One like brief little thing. Early on, I think, was it the E3? 2019, I think? Yeah. God, I remember that he had the Bowser joke. Yup, at the beginning. Yeah, he's like non-existent, like publicly. I mean, you see him come up with interviews now and then, but I mean, of course he's a PR guy. That's his primary job. So like, he's gonna be at interviews, but it is interesting that like, I understand that Shintura Owada was a very different person. He believed in personalities and people out front, and that's why him and Reggie and you know, whatever that guy they had out in Europe as well was always on their side of things out in front of stuff. So that's the way Owada was ever since then. They kind of kept it going under Takahashi, but that was a transitional period. Now we're under Furukawa, and he's like, nope, I'm a business guy. I ain't going on camera. I'm a number. Even Doug Bowser danced around the whole hardware thing last year. Remember that? That was funny. Yeah, I remember when I made a video about that. I was something like Doug Bowser does his best Reggie impression talking about new switch art. Exactly. So it's like you could tell, you could tell he was under tutelage from Reggie. Classic Reggie responses. Saying like everything except the direct answer. Yeah, that's the way Reggie is. Everyone loves Reggie because of the memes, and the memes are great, because you don't get too many CEOs that are willing to put themselves out there and create these kind of meme moments. But it's also like Reggie knows he's toying with you, and he almost enjoyed it. And that's what was so great. Because you would see the sly way he smiles when he answers a question, and he knows he just talked a bunch of bullshit around you and didn't give you the answer, and he knows it's not what you wanted to hear, and he's just like, I know what you want to hear, it's not happening. It's like, oh, I'm wearing this Metroid pin. You think that actually means something? Yeah. I don't want to speculate, I ain't telling you shit. Overall, I think this direct is a good sign of things to come. I think it's just the beginning. I think they got a lot more to share. This is a, can we say this is almost like a new beginning. It's like a post COVID kind of Nintendo, where they're getting back into the swing of things. Yeah. And again, not a lot of Nintendo first party games. So future directs, we should expect more, I would assume. Yeah, they got a lot to show. I mean, they don't, again, I think they're good for the first half of the year. I think the slate looks fine. I think Switch is gonna keep selling out. But after July, we need something. We got nothing right now. So come back in like five months and Nintendo will have something new for us, another direct, another something, but hopefully sooner, hopefully, maybe they partake in E3 and they take one of those two-hour slots that we're talking about, which Nintendo, I don't know, they could fill the two hours. They'll just do their normal 40 minute thing and then just do like a tree house presentation for an hour and 20 minutes or something. There's a lot of things that end on March 31st. Remember that. So anything after March 31st, it's a fair game. Yeah. That's why I keep thinking, you know, you get March, April, June. That's why I'm like, you know, June just feels like that month, you know. But again, we gotta see what's happening with the Pokemon company as well. Who knows, they might be packing this next six months, even more, for all we know. So, all right, folks, thanks so much for tuning in. I hope you enjoyed our reaction to the Nintendo Direct, our first podcast back. What a way to kind of start or reboot the podcast in a way. As I call this like season two, episode one or whatever I end up calling it on anchor.fm because it has like a seasons thing you can pick. Thank you guys. I hope you enjoyed the new setup with Super Metal Dave in the background. 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