 Considering how my bedroom used to be this is an improvement. It's true Roger But we're streaming live now And there he goes. All right It's not that we don't want you to see Roger. He just don't it doesn't want you to be distracted by him So all you'll do is look at Roger. I'll show All right, here we go This podcast is made possible by listeners like you at patreon.com Slash ace detect offer void where prohibited your mileage may vary product may contain nuts This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday, July 14th 2015 I'm Tom Merritt joining me today as she does most Mondays even though today's Tuesday Veronica Belmont, how's it going? You totally ruined my happy Monday joke. Oh You can still do it Monday everyone. Let's just let's just pretend it's my way We're just gonna pretend it's Monday from now on also joining us today on this Monday Jessica Condit senior reporter at Engadget. How's it going Jess? Hey, good to be here guys Thank you for joining us. We've got we got some interesting stories to talk about to bring you your mood back up from yesterday's show a Little forward in the show, but let's start Veronica. What would you like to do some headlines? I would like to do some headlines Beacons are one-way transmissions that give you information for what you're near bus stops Shopping discounts things like that you hear about iBeacon all the time that may be the most familiar one Google is launching something called Eddy Stone It's an open-source cross-platform Bluetooth le beacon That's low energy Eddy Stone is cross-platform for Android and iOS and open source under the Apache version 2.0 license Though Google will do its little Android thing will they'll have an open-source platform, but then offer their own proprietary Products a nearby API and a proximity beacon cloud service unlike most beacon implementations Eddy Stone will support multiple what they call frame types So that for instance the iBeacon from Apple has a universally unique identifier a uuid Eddy Stone will have that but it will also have good old-fashioned url support ephemeral identifiers for security and something called telemetry which allow you to do some diagnostics I'm not familiar with the term ephemeral identifier Yeah, I don't think I've seen this before either, but I guess the idea is that it will only go to you if you're authorized So you're you only get the transmission you only receive the transmission if you're authorized to receive it I they use the example of like keys for instance lost keys or a lost phone. You wouldn't know about No, I wouldn't know anything about a lost phone. Dang it So is this a is this a walking advertising platform essentially or not a platform But a an easy way to to deliver ads to us on the go Yeah, it's a can be right like that's that's where all the money is so that's probably what it's going to be used For most of it, but I think what they're trying to do with Eddy Stone is saying hey Let's open source this so people can come up with all kinds of different ways to use it And I like the public transportation Example one of one of the things they showed was that right now with GPS they can't tell which side of the street You're standing on so they could tell you buses are coming north or south But with something like Eddy Stone, they would be able because you're in Proximity to the beacon itself. They'd be able to say oh, you're standing by the northbound bus stop We'll only send you the northbound times. I wonder if this will be better Than something like geo fencing because I feel like geo fencing, you know I realize that there are separate technologies and they do different kinds of things, but in a way they're kind of Giving you the same outcome in some ways in terms of location-based information But at the same time, you know GPS and geo fencing is so power Intensive it takes so much power on your phone to actually have that running on in an ongoing way and being able to Make the most of it. It just drains your your battery, but I'm wondering what the power situation I mean, if it's if it's Bluetooth low energy Yeah, low energy. I mean, that's that's a good sign. Yeah, absolutely. Oh Right, it's my turn to read Nokia is getting to be like that friend who said it really is going to finally start that project They've been talking about you just wish they'd stop talking about it and get on with it Reuters reports at Nokia confirm Monday that it may start designing and licensing mobile phone handsets under its brand name in 2016 it just needs a partner to take on, you know the little things like Manufacturing sales marketing and customer support the company stated that a Nokia branded phone would not arrive before the fourth quarter of 2016 when it's deal with Microsoft allows Nokia to sell phones under its name again It's like it's so on again like They they leak out something and they say well We can't really confirm that and then the next day they confirm it and then they confirm it again later We get it. Nokia is going to come out with phones somebody else is going to build them that all makes sense Question is by the time they can put these out. Will the ship have sailed on Nokia phones or Are there you know, and and we know smartphones in particular are maturing as a market Will they be able to trade on that name? Will they be able to make inroads in new markets? Maybe in some kind of like. Oh, they're old school. Oh, it's retro Jessica would you buy a retro Nokia phone? Well, I was looking at some like mock-ups of what they could look like and yeah These like bright neon with huge chunky cases and big old buttons I think they would do well in Japan because I feel like they still use those like flip phones And they use those kind of old school. They love that. I don't know. I don't know why but it just is a thing So so maybe that's where Nokia should should head. Just go to Japan. Yeah, go to Japan for the style Maybe Africa Southeast Asia, India for the for the entry-level stuff Yeah, I would like to have a candy bar smartphone if anybody can make it work. Maybe no Would you really? No, not really. I do have I do have fond memories of my old candy bar phone I just don't think it's possible. Okay Search Engine Land reports Google is preparing to reopen map maker the one that had all kinds of problems with people Contributing updates that either weren't true or possibly offensive They've got a new moderation procedure that will rely more on community Moderators meaning updates could take a little longer to be added But they would have to be reviewed by the community and the company said the tool will reopen in phases beginning early next month Google will hire qualified regional lead candidates now and they throw around the word hire I don't know if that means they're paid or volunteers But they will they will vet them regional lead candidates to moderate and some edits will still require Google approval All right Yeah, that's That's good. I mean nothing ever bad came of community moderation. So Just as reddit. What's the worst that could happen there? Anyway, moving on and gadget passes along that sources tell the information that Facebook is developing its own virtual assistant called money penny Money penny would live inside the Facebook messenger app and the sources say it would actually have real people answering your questions So kind of like Amazon's made a button meet Siri Yeah, that's clever I you know what remains to be seen if this project is real or even if it is real if it ever comes to market But that would be a smarter way to do things Don't you think if you kind of take there's that startup magic that does this to where you could text questions And they have real people. Yeah, so That could be a way Facebook provides something that's a little different than just oh, here's another virtual assistant How about stop making me use Facebook Messenger? Can they do that? Well, you don't have to use it If you want to live in the century you do though, it's a shame. Yeah, it is sad Right I find myself using Facebook more and more even though I don't really care to I'm not against it or anything I just I don't know. I find it the fuddling the way it's organized You know what it is It's that I haven't used it enough to know where everything is and it's definitely not the kind of site where you can just look at it And say, oh, okay There's there's there's the new things and there's where I message people like there's the news feed But then there's the other profile feed and then finding the things that you posted and the reactions to them are all in different places It's it's just I haven't hit the learning curve. That's all It's better on mobile though Like their mobile site and that's because a lot of sites optimized for mobile now because that's where the market is. Yeah That makes sense. Yeah CNET reports that Apple Pay has launched in the united kingdom But not all the banks announced as partners made it to the initial launch But they'll get there hsbc and first direct said they will join later this month and Lloyd's Halifax and bank of scotland will supposedly be supported in the autumn There's also some of the cards putting purchase amount limits on there Of in some cases as low as 25 pounds But hey apple pay in the uk the london way Oh, that's a title That has nothing to do with the rest of the show that we're talking about. Um, I am happy to report that I'm finally able to use apple pay on my watch as advertised So Yay A new feature on my watch I'm so excited All right Recode reports concast is starting a streaming game service in partnership with electronic arts In the initial test period a random group of concast subscribers who have x1 set top boxes will be able to play for free You can volunteer to be randomly selected at xfinity.com slash xfinity games The service will use a smartphone or tablet as a controller and focus on casual games like plants versus zombies and fifa 13 Data will be uh data use will count against any data caps that you may have as well So no net neutrality Yeah, I I mean clearly I haven't tried this yet. Also, I don't have concast but has anyone has anyone seen this yet No, who wants to that was the thing That's my question Yeah, it does start to feel like uh a little bit like the video games in the in the seat backs on airplanes Yeah Where you're like oh video games and then you look at them and then you try to play them And then you're like forget it. That's not I mean, maybe it'll be much better than that The x1 set top boxes by all accounts are actually very good So, you know, it's not like they're underpowered. So I wouldn't expect them to play badly But it's casual titles older titles. You have to use your phone Well, that's the thing control The funny thing is about, you know, the whole problem with mobile gaming is that the hardest part about mobile gaming is having to use The touchscreen as a viable controller So being like this is a feature you have to use your mobile device your tablet to control these games It's like oh like I'd rather maybe rent a controller from you for like 20 dollars a month if it's going to come to that Uh, but yeah, I don't see this as being particularly it sounds like a like a Just an ad like a they wrote it in somewhere and let's do this. This will be fun. Why why are you doing that? Nobody wants that Everyone has xboxes now. Who cares? Why would you do this? I don't know unless it was Is it gonna be it is gonna be free. So that's good. I mean at least they're giving at first during the trial Something for free. Yeah for now probably not forever I mean Jessica, do you have an idea of who who would this who this would be for because I Obviously comcast trying to test something that makes it not be just an isp right that they can eventually charge for Right and this is I mean it has to be for people who have Comcast who have the x1 and then don't have an xbox one or a or a ps4 or a we or a we you even Not that many people have a we you anymore But yeah, it's it's got to be for these people who don't have consoles But are kind of getting into this new gaming thing And I really don't think that playing video games on a tablet or a smartphone as the controller That's not the way to introduce people to games even casual ones Because it's just not a very good experience. So I don't know. I wonder about this one But hey, maybe maybe this is a good idea. I guess we'll see everyone has a smartphone. So good Yeah, I get the idea behind it for sure But like you say like even plants versus zombies has a timed element to it and when you're dealing with smartphone controls That are disconnected from the screen you're looking at right because you have to look at Yeah, it just yeah, it doesn't really work They're making fun of me in the chat room because I said $20 a month for a controller. Yes I that was just a stupid example. I don't really mean you should pay They should charge $20 a month for the controller. I'm just saying Whatever if it was part of your package when you bought your darn set top box You'd be like here and then throw in this controller Yeah, maybe that's what they'll find when they do this. I I think it's Monday guys. I'm really tired like I have Crash myself from the weekend, you know, I'm still kind of on sunday time I'll get there The guardian found data hidden in the source code of google's transparency report that reveals information About the people making right to be forgotten requests of the roughly 220 000 individual requests made to google in this report Less than 5% concerned criminals politicians or high-profile public figures Which are often used as examples of problems with right to be forgotten The data covers about three quarters of the request made to date google has since updated the source code to remove that data Way to go Well, because it doesn't help their their case is like, hey when we're removing these things We're removing relevant data from from these types of people And if the requests are coming from private individuals most often that kind of undermines that case We get lots of great suggestions for stories at our subreddit dailytechnewshow.reddit.com Thanks to the more than 5 000 people who are in there participating and of course our amazing mods If you haven't stopped by you ought to it actually has a great Fountain of tech news on its own just if you want to see a great cross-section And it helps us figure out what to put in the lineup You've heard some things that were submitted there already star fury zeta sent us the gizmodo report that mozilla blocked All versions of flash starting monday night as a result of multiple zero day vulnerabilities And then of course adobe today released a new version of flash that firefox does not block But pretty intense move there on mozilla's part to be like, you know, we're just not going to deal with this anymore This is unsafe. We're going to block flash till they fix it. Good for them. Yeah, i'm totally on board with that actually Maybe that'll get more people using mozilla. Maybe it will Drew cpu sent us the news that reddits chief engineer bethane blount. Sorry if i'm saying her name incorrectly bethany blunt It would ruin my guess That's better bethany blunt Confirm that she has left the company because she didn't think she could deliver on promises being made to the community She said quote there are some very aggressive implied promises being made to the community in comments to mods Quotes from board members and they're going to have some pretty big challenges in meeting those implied promises Blunt has been with reddit for less than two months. Um, she came over from Facebook Yes, I believe yeah, she came over from facebook. Um, I think she's gonna leave to do her own startup now It was what I believe I read from from recode Um, but this is you know, this is people are are jumping ship at this point now. I think because It feels like a pretty aggressive environment over there right now And there's we're getting a lot of mixed messages from from the board members and from Alexis and and it's it's getting kind of intense I read an interesting story on tech crunch or an interesting take on tech crunch Today, and I wish I still had it open so I could credit the author But they were basically saying this is kind of normal for reddit Like things just tend to happen and then reddit keeps chugging on And I you know the point was at a certain point too many of these types of things can undermine them But they don't think that they've hit that point yet And I it does seem like you know, if you look at the reddit front page It looks just as weird as it does any other day. So it's it's situation normal there And subreddits are are active. I mean they could still mess it up But I it's easy to overblow what's going on at reddit because of these kinds of departures But at the same time someone leaving and then talking I think is the most significant part of this. She didn't just leave and say no no no I've got nothing to say, you know, everything's fine. Everything's fine. I'm just going off to pursue my own projects Which is what people often say, you know, she's saying uh, they told me to achieve something I didn't think I could do so I left And that's a similar message we've heard from a few other employees or former employees speaking out and saying Actually, there's some some shady things going on here. I didn't agree with some of the policies and That is that is a little concerning because I don't think that happens every day and it's not every day that like the moderators of The AMA forms get to write an editorial in the new york times, you know, like that. So there is something Something happening. I don't think it's just, you know, standard business dealings right there I'm really curious to see what what comes of all this is reddit just going to kind of return to its Is the way things were before the shakeup started or are they're going to be major changes? I mean, they seem to say so but I feel like the community just wants it to kind of go back to the way it was So are they going to do what the community wants or what's What's best for the board or I don't know what's best. I mean, thank god. I'm glad I'm not on that board I get the feeling that I'm not all involved in that company I do get the feeling that alexis ohanian has a vision And if you don't fit with that vision then you hit turbulent waters whether it means you get removed or you just get frustrated and quit or You run into problems with the community and and you know, you leave I think for good or ill there is a stabilizing a stabilizing force there that's sort of behind a lot Of the good and the bad that's going on there Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I'd call it a stabilizing force, but okay Yeah, it's It's a it's a bad metaphor, but it's it's it's a consistent force. Maybe that's a better Okay, better word for it And that's a look at the headlines All right, so yesterday, uh, we had the very sad news of the death of satoru iwata of nintendo So today we wanted to take a little bit of a look forward And thankfully we already had jessica kondit booked to come on the show and you wrote An article about jade raymond Starting a new job Over at electronic arts along with amy henig To work on a star wars game Those are all good news and and these are two bright spots in the game in the industry right now Yeah, and this is like, oh, this is so exciting honestly for me because these are two Two people who have been in the industry for a very long time had their hands in like super Impressive and you know notable franchises in the industry. So jade raymond Is is now with ea. She was at ubisoft and she actually ran ubisoft Toronto She had a hand in producing the assassin's creed games. So, you know, she she helped with watch dogs She knows her triple a and then amy henig who is at ea. She's been there for a while She is at visceral, which is an ea studio. She's working on star wars right now Now she's the one who wrote like naughty dogs pivotal franchise uncharted She was creative director. She she wrote like all of the uncharted games She even helped with the new one And that one that one isn't out yet, but she joined ea before that one came out or before that one was even like announced So this is cool. These two are going to be working together on ea's. I believe third star wars game In recent memory. Yeah Very exciting I guess my my question about this is, you know, first of all, it's it's amazing news that these two women Like you said are involved in this major major project for for ea And you know star wars games in the past have been kind of hit and miss Whether it's been some some some good titles and some bad titles, I would say But do you think this would have been as big of a story if it weren't jade raymond If it were just another studio chief moving from from one studio to another No, I mean, this is definitely a story about these two women these two people And yeah, it is notable that these are now two women in two very powerful positions at ea And in these you know in charge of this huge franchise star wars like this isn't the little leftover bits or anything So that is notable still in our industry to to say that. Yes, these two women are in charge and that's cool And people are excited. So that's what really made me happy was that It wasn't comments of oh, it's going to explode. It's not going to it's not going to do well It was a lot of people saying awesome. I loved assassin's creed I loved uncharted these two women are working together. These two people are working together That's amazing. Um, so that really is cool to just to see the excitement too that a lot of people are feeling about this move Um, and I think so like yeah ea has star wars the old republic, which is that mmo they have um, and uh It it has lost a lot of fan support over the years. It wasn't quite as as a Renowned as as ea really wanted it to be It's a definition of hit or miss all in one right because I played it when it launched and there were some Some amazing things that they did with the lore and the way they gave you quests, but they were just not able to Sustain it I guess That's absolutely what it seems like people, you know players started dropping off and then it's kind of where it is now It's still around but hardly And then now we have star wars battlefront as well. That's and that's coming from ea's other studio dice They do the battlefield series So star wars battlefront actually looks really cool. I think I played some local co-op of that at uh, I believe at e3 just a few months ago a month ago Ea messes with my mind. I don't even know what year that was It's too too many things Yeah, so so that that looks really cool And then this is going to be something probably more narrative driven This new star wars game if they have amy henig kind of running it. Yeah What is this going to mean for future uncharted titles? That's what I want to know because I mean Uncharted is probably one of my as well favorite series of all times And you know amy has always been really the driving force behind that and the the creative vision behind that series So what what what what have you been hearing about this are people nervous about the the future of the franchise? Well, I mean So I was at e3 and they you know, they had the big at the end of sony's conference They had this big uncharted demo and uh, it was a very fun a lot of people very excited So like the excitement is there for uncharted still It hasn't been proven that you know, the writing is is terrible or anything yet. Um, you know yet. Hey, who knows So yeah, like the extended demo that naughty dog released It shows, you know some pretty cool writing It's very much an action game and then there's some classic like indiana jones style twists and funny lines and all that So there's still some pretty solid, you know game makers going into this I don't think the excitement has died down for that franchise yet But I am glad that we are at the end of that series and that like that is, you know, amy hennig's Kind of, you know masterpiece and she did see it all the way through At least to the beginning of the development of this game. Yeah And it was I noticed in the wikipedia biography of henig uh that there are a couple of citations Of her talking about her belief in the creative direction holding more importance than the graphics of a game and that totally just mirrored Many of the things that satoru iwata had said and I think it shows that this is what makes for a great Designer of narrative is somebody who says let's make the technology serve the storytelling Mm-hmm And I mean nintendo lived by that like they came out the we you know They came out and it was not this graphical powerhouse That the xbox one of the ps4 was so yeah, and but they proved obviously that uh, You can have awesome fun experiences If you have a solid story if you have a solid character if you have the mechanics down the graphics Don't actually mean as much. You know like I never concerned myself with you know 60 frames per second or anything like that. Um, I understand it definitely helps for like competitive shooters and all that I get that But I don't need it in my experiences. That's why I like a lot of the indie titles as well Because they do have a focus on narrative and you know creating Dense worlds that you really feel like you can live in So I feel like with that kind of mindset now ea also has frostbite engine graphical like extreme powerhouse that they have So we have solid narrative solid graphics if the technology works ea. We're watching you Um, and so it should be okay. Yeah Yeah, it's the fact that this is star wars, you know, I think is fortuitous because It does look to me as if we are getting in the gaming industry The kinds of reputations around people that we've had in movies for a long time Somebody who wrote a script in the 20s Uh was was unique if anyone knew their name now we we always talk about the screenwriter You know who wrote the script for that who directed that movie? So jj abrams and laurence cas did working together on star wars the force awakens is important to us to know because We have faith in the past work of those people and this feels like the new version of that Jade rayman, you know, she started as a programmer at sony. She worked on sims online. She worked on assassin's creed Amy henig started for atari Doing a game called electro cop Designed michael jordan chaos in the windy city so a long a long resume of amazing things And of course uncharted that topping the list you have a star writer and a star producer working together And on star wars. So it seems like it would it would be positive I think so, yeah Oh, I was gonna say, you know, I was reading some of the the uh comments on engage And I think they really mirror a lot of the other sentiment around on the internet Is jade rayman still hot enough to work in games? I think this is really the most important question You had to bring that out. I think amy schumer can answer that actually Some days, man Right, no kidding. I you know, I didn't realize they were women. I don't see gender I'm told they're women and I believe it So thank you for pointing that out But yeah, check this out You've got the story jessica's got the story up at engadget.com Of course, uh, jessica does lots of great, uh coverage over in engadget as well And congratulations to jade rayman and amy hennig I looked at both their twitter feeds and they were just filled with responses from people who were Seriously excited, uh about this appointment. So that it does warm your heart Yeah, I do I just love the the vibe around star wars right now Like coming out of comic con and you know the excitement around the the films and the excitement around the game And the cast just being so thrilled about it. It's just it really feels like the The film we've been waiting for I mean, you know after the prequels and you know, they they were Yeah, there was mixed feelings about the prequels, but I think this really feels like the next coming of star wars to me In so many ways and like a really fantastic Not not reboot but like reinvigoration of of the of of the films of the franchise. Yeah the franchise. Thank you All right, let's get to our pick of the day. Nicholas needed to work on two different machines I had to pull data from one to work on the other and I know what you're saying get a kvm Well, Nicholas said I don't want to clutter up my desk with a kvm And then I know a bunch of you're saying well, what about synergy and Nicholas said Nah, they dropped their free version and I'm cheap. He didn't say it was cheap actually But he did say he always looks for free alternatives. So here's what he found I stumbled upon mouse without borders by microsoft garage They set up was a breeze installed on both computers sync via security codes and voila, it's working Most importantly, it's working great You can set up to four computers choose to lock the mouse to avoid accidental switching if you want There's no master slave relationship between the machines Meaning that you can use the input devices from any of the link computers to control the others and synergy doesn't work that way The share clipboard functionality does seem a little iffy He said and he couldn't get the share file functionality to work at all So if those are important to you, you might need to keep looking for something else Also, it's windows only so if you're a mac person, it's not going to work for you there But he said overall though, if you want to share a mouse and keyboard over different windows machines It's painless and completely free We'll have a link to it in the show notes as well. But thank you, Nicholas Every reminder these picks are not sponsored. These are just your picks for things you like to use You can send your picks to feedback at dailytechnewshow.com and find my picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks I'm so surprised that they think that a kvm takes up all that much room because it's for me It's just one tiny button next to my laptop that I push back and forth I'm imagining Nicholas has like a white desktop with nothing on it That sounds nice Okay, just good for him clutter free. All right Yeah I got a couple emails before we get out of here christen to rano said as you stated during yesterday's pick Powerline networking can be hit or miss. I recently tried the same hardware mentioned the tp link 500 megabits per second power line kit but found a glaring issue despite it Advertising speeds up to 500 megabits per second the ports on the device are only 10 100 I found that it was not fast enough to keep up with full 1080p All of that said these devices have dropped in price significantly over the years and they seem to work well enough For lower bandwidth applications. I should mention that there are kits that supposedly support gigabit speeds But they are more expensive. Uh, so thanks for that add-on chris in toronto Hey tom, did you know what today is what it's the anniversary of? Uh, oh, well, I was going to say today is the day we we finally added pluto to our photo collection But I didn't what's the what's at the anniversary of it's the anniversary of the Comcast call Oh the your Comcast call Is it really like it was a year ago? Yeah, and I only know that because cori doctoro tweeted about it this morning I was like, oh it is I only my only sadness around that call is that we didn't get your side of the conversation recorded only ryan's I know I know it was a sad. Oh probably for the best. I I sounded kind of crazy And a little bit like I'm about to cry But anyway, uh, so I thought it would be appropriate to read this email Um over here from john. He writes on the Comcast 2 gigabit service that you guys mentioned yesterday on the show He says I had to chuckle thinking about Comcast 2 gigabit service And the fact that unless you brought some bought some specialized commercial-grade networking equipment for your home You probably wouldn't be able to get above 1 gigabit per second Any consumer router or switch is going to max out at 1 gigabit per second effectively having your 300 a month service $300 a month service, uh, then again, I doubt they can get above 20 megabit per second during peak hours But of Ching Love the show keep it up your boss from billings montana office. Hey, thanks boss I'm sorry. It's that empty empty is montana, right? Yeah, I think that's montana billings is definitely in montana. It is right? Yes Yeah 20 megabit you won't have a problem during peak hours because no one else can afford the surface Yeah, peter rohas actually yesterday was was tweeting about this because he was thinking of setting it up And he wanted to get on the horn with someone from concast and really talk to them about it And they he was on the phone for hours and nobody could answer his questions And nobody really knew the answers to his questions and they're like, we just haven't been briefed on this yet Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, so they're not I mean you can't even talk to someone about this right now It's kind of weird. Yeah, really for that. Uh, well, it's starting in boston. I think We're they're rolling it out first. So maybe there's a customer service group in boston that's been briefed I don't by now. I don't know There is a $500 Installation charge and a $500 installation fee So there's like up and it's up to that depends on the installation But up to a thousand dollars just to get it installed. I'm gonna guess I'm gonna be charitable Comcast without knowing for sure that that includes a router that can deliver two gigabit per second speeds That it would have to be for it to be that expensive and it would make sense because they'd have to give you a commercial grade router But yeah, that's really expensive It's pretty expensive. It's yeah, I mean in san francisco. We have monkey brains which monthly is much cheaper But the installation is far higher. Um, but you pay that off Yeah, I think I don't remember. I think yes. Yes. Yes Um, yes Yeah Yes But it is nice that these things are are starting to roll out and people are getting I mean, this is you know, it's definitely going to improve speeds for a lot of people Comcast subscribers, but yeah, you have to you got to pay the money for it Their market is the rich kids of instagram, but you know, there you go. That's fine They really need their instagram videos to load fast Uh, thank you to john chris and nicholas for your emails. Uh, and thank you jessica condit for joining us This was great. Thank you. I thanks so much for taking some time to chat with us today Yeah, thanks for having me. This was awesome Go find jessica's work at engadget.com. Uh, and they can follow you on twitter at jess condit. Is that right? That's correct. Yeah jess c-o-n d-i-t-t two t's at the end part of the two t's at the end club along with myself Only one uh anything uh on the horizon to tell folks about Um, yeah, so we're gonna have a bunch of gamescom coverage coming up That's the big convention out in germany So please stay tuned to that and tomorrow we're streaming wind waker as our tribute to iwata So Very nice. So you just go to find the link at engadget.com for those Yeah, we'll have a post and everything and i'll be tweeting a storm about it. So don't worry about that Excellent veronica belmont also on engadget hosts ask veronica upon which jessica has been Oh dear veronica dear veronica is what i said totally I said dear veronica because you wouldn't ask veronica. You'd say dear veronica and then you'd write her question You know, I almost named the show that and then I didn't and now I think maybe I should have named the show that Because everybody does that. I'm sorry Totally fair, but yeah, dear veronica new episodes every wednesday at 9 a.m. Eastern time Nope noon eastern time 9 a.m. Pacific time Get those backwards sometimes. Uh, but yeah, we've got I've got a couple of special guests coming up in the next couple episodes I got a certain tom merit coming up next week And I've got a pet mr. Patrick norton submitted an answer for for a question About a home automation. So that'll be the week after so yeah, it's it's going to be a co-hostathon Former former and current co-hostathon over on dear veronica, which is always fun Excellent dear veronica as it is written down right in front of me right now on engadget.com Go check it out. 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Talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frogpants.com Ironman club hopes you have enjoyed this brover Great show. Thank you jessica That was awesome. Yeah, that was really fun. That's cool We're gonna stick around and name the show along with the chat room. Uh, but if you need to go Take off I do I do. Uh, well, yeah, thank you guys very much. It was this was cool I'd be glad to be back at any time. Yeah, come back soon. Okay, cool What should we call it a hacker a fake date a faker updated math maker Well done dark redeemer if we go at that that would be two in a row. I think for him Then there's also real. Oh, it's also darker. Deemer X on it As it as opposed to exodus exit it Oh, yeah, you kind of have to look at it. You have to look at it pretty genius, which is good works for print Apple pay in the uk the london way That's too long Really enjoying internal rhyme scheme today. Don't make fun of micromaginus. That's too long It's not making fun of my commodity. That's homogeniness homogeniness Everybody to the limit everybody to the limit The beat is to the limit everybody come up a whole facade Wow, you know all the words that's amazing. That's the only words. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, well, I don't even know those Oh When you guys think we're a title Title title come on. Are we just gonna go? Oh, okay. Let's have a little controversy A hacker a faker updated mac maker or exodus. Can we talk about hackers on the show? I don't remember that Um flash Oh, I guess I will say That in in In the act of brevity, I might go with exodus Oh, well, I will vote on it there Hmm I think I like exodus Exit it is uh is getting a posse. Yeah, so I think we might we go with exodus. Okay Veronica. Yeah, you haven't expressed your definitive opinion yet though. I just don't care I just wanted to be over I'm just I'm so tired. Please let me go to sleep. I'm gonna go see um What's it called ant man soon? Oh, really? All right. Yeah. Yeah at dolby Is it a preview? It is. Nice. Is it a screener? Well, that doesn't help us any Super cool guy Veronica Belmont here in ant mannerily Yeah, you have to pay to see it again later to help our draft though I'm not I'm not involved with your draft. You should have been Well, you should stop doing it on gosh darn Tuesday nights What were you flamenco dancing? No, I have vaginal fantasy. Oh never mind That's a good excuse But that's when night attack is well, that's dumb I don't know. Talk to them. I'm gonna put that on your headstone But that's dumb No, but uh, but that's But that uh, that night is vaginal fantasy and it's That goes on her headstone. I don't get that that would make sense That would just be true And also too late to see her on the show at that point Oh, yeah, but Actually, who was it? I think it was my dad No, it wasn't my dad. Was it my mom. No, it was my grandma Had her name on the headstone even before she died Because it was one of those dual headstones And they had put her husband's name on one side and he had passed away And then it had her name with her birth year and then a dash and then a space Yeah, but how do they do that with the same precision? I get you know, I mean like yeah, when they when they add in the year later It's cheaper because they are they did it all the rest of it at once But it's gonna look a little different. You're right. Yeah, that's I don't know I'm gonna do what my parents did and just pre buy plots. They're really expensive now I'm getting buried underneath a tree Yeah, pretty existing tree No, there's a thing in italy that they're doing I saw it in one of my many trolls of the internet Where they put you in a pod like an egg under a tree sapling and then you grow So you're cremated and then so you're you're you're a tree fertilizer Your tree fertilizer You're feeding the tree. Oh, it's nice. Yeah You're like in a little your body's in like a little pod Right like a egg you can look it up and then it makes the tree grow maybe I already told tom what I wanted really painful if you're not actually dead Yeah I would have my remains spread over a large open field of corn or whatever Or wheat and then when the wheat grows it would be Cut down and made into a cake in order not to eat it on the anniversary my passing I can't like I hope I live longer. I hope I outlive you so I can eat your cake Uh, I gotta go take care of the doge. Okay. I forgot what I was gonna ask you anyway, so it's okay Oh, is vaginal fantasy tonight No Why Because tonight's monday the last tuesday of every oh, it's the last tuesday of every month. No, you're right last tuesday last Last tuesday Happy monday Felicia day and I have the same birthday and bonnie burton and my wife have the same birthday. That's half of your cast Wow Wowie wow wow. All right. Go take the dog out. Okay Wowie wow wow tom. Bye cool story bro. Cool story tom You're into star signs and astrology Somehow we're all connected because of our birthdays. Yeah, we're all exactly the same Wowie wow wow so wow Bye You know right her husband ryan does that same wowie wow wow thing and sometimes So for some reason it hurts more when he does it. I don't know why it's because he does it without the Without the ribbing that you get consider veronica to be like a sister You just like yes This is more of a kind of a more more of a I don't know More of a sneering wowie wow. There's a punch to it. Yeah, there's a bite to it It's good. I respect it She's she's the last thing she said in the chat room Well folks, I thought that was a successful show it was a great show awesome yep And you know, I say that every time but that's only because it's true Well, you could do it my way and just be super critical of it and not very enthusiastic until that one episode that Like puts everyone on mars They like this was a good episode That's he you're giving away your secret there. That's the whole point If you make everything special nothing special and so you must pour score and criticism It's what my parents have taught me through life You had a 98 what happened to the other two It's true. Why did you miss two? Yeah I don't know why'd you miss two Harsh, you know, my grandparents were like or my grandpa particularly on my mom's side was like actually that's true I've noticed that with especially people were born Into the depression Were less impressed Impressed impressed with a lot of stuff. It's like a Like you would really have to be like a barnstormer to really like whoa, that's That's really good. It's so true um so Roger Would you help me out with the video today because I'm in a slow upload location. Yep. No worries. Thank you Excellent So I've been up since 6 30 and it really does feel like time for a cold brew coffee of some kind Time for cold brew Did you have to prepare for class as though it was so no I did that late last night And then I forgot I had a doctor's appointment at 8 a.m. Which is like brutal I hate those especially when I schedule it. It's like, oh wake up. I'll make it Then you realize oh Then you forget to put your little reminder like a couple hours early and you get 30 minutes Although in this case, it's the dentist for me. It's like, ah dammit But I made it I did all the things and now I'm And with that we're gonna have a iced coffee and a large Ice cream tea now we're done. I am out of the post Stay tuned For a rerun of vaginal fantasy. No, uh night attack night attack is coming up tonight It's a real honest to goodness attack on your night. Don't miss it on diamond club dot tv Immediately following this parade of nokia sentimentality