 To use the time we have together with you and I know that you who are here you are all busy colleagues and we will be be in time to have this one hour webinar so I would like to welcome all of you very warmly on behalf of Eden. Eden is the European Distance and e-learning network and this webinar is hosted by the Eden special interest group for technology-enabled learning and quality enhancement and the Eden map the network of academic professionals so it's a collaboration in between us. The title as you have seen when you read it is about the United Nations UNESCO overall recommendations the way forward for member countries and we will discuss that with you and in between us with the presenters during this hour. This webinar is also followed up by an Eden chat this hour this evening at 6 o'clock p.m. we always used to do that to have our webinars and chats at the same date so we can discuss further on if there are questions coming up from the webinars so you'll welcome back again at 6 o'clock p.m. with the Eden chat it is a tweet chat so very quick and efficient. My name is Eber Ostjarnelsson I'm a professor in innovative and open online learning and I am in the Eden EC and also in the ICDE EC and I am also the share of this special interest group about technology enhanced learning and quality and I'm also with ICDE sharing the ICDE advocacy or our committee. We have today a very interesting and manageable panel for this webinar. It is Professor Roy McQueen from Atabasca University. He is also the UNESCO ICDE share in OER and co-editor for IRL Atabasca University. We have Yemrin Vestler who is from Creative Commons and she is also in the ICDE OER Advocacy Committee which I previously mentioned. We have Dr. Andrea Inavaratova Santos from the Joint Research Center and I think very many of you know her from her work with colleagues about open educational framework. We have Dr. Sandra Kucina-Softic from the University of Sagrop University Computing Center and she is also the Eden president and then we have myself which I previously presented. I will do the first introduction and I will also moderate this session. So a warmly welcome to all of you. You are joining in now we have just started this webinar about the UN UNESCO OER recommendations to waive forward for member countries and please write your name and also the map and where we are coming from and you can do in the whole webinar write questions or comments or links or whatever in the chat and I would try to keep an eye on that during this hour to follow up things and to follow up with the presenters. So please just feel free to write and to collaborate during this webinar it's very important. We here are presenters we maybe know something about this and we do because we have followed this process for very long time very very many years as it has going on and then but you have all the questions and we have also a lot of questions ourselves. So let's start. Hello Steven Downs. Good to see you. So first as I may have said about Eden. Eden is the largest active and developing professional community of research and practitioners of open distance and e learning in Europe and it was established already in 1991 and is a platform for professional cooperation and information exchange. We are currently registered in UK but as you know the situation is UK we have another plan for that after the Brexit so we have to also update this slide where but we are open for institutions individuals and networks and we work at all levels of sectors of the educational training sector. The mission is about support and divorce to modernize education in Europe. Network and collaborate facilitate knowledge and practice exchange improve understanding amongst professionals in distance and e-learning and promote policy and practice across Europe. And as I mentioned we have the special interest group and we also have the Eden network for academic professionals. We organize conferences. The next conference it will be in Romania in June. We have annual conferences and we also have open classrooms. We have a researcher workshops and we have a very informative webpage which you're welcome to have a look at. Our members are both from institutions, individuals and networks. We have around almost 200 institutional members and some 1,100 plus members in that and Eden that are organizing webinars and chats each month and this is the first for this year. There's a second coming up on the 12th of February. We have some 30 European international networks presenting in present in membership and some 400 plus institutions represented from 70 countries within the outside within an outside of Europe. I know that Sandra, the president of Eden will also maybe say something more in the end of the webinar about Eden and the way forward. So let's get started. Those are OVR, United Nations OVR recommendations was adopted the 25th of November in 2019 last autumn. So it was a very, very long process and a rather hard process to get it adopted from over 190 countries around the world. So now it is not just time for awareness racing about OVR, but for implementation and about monitoring and evaluation and to really implement recommendations within and into their member countries. We will have a responsibility for that as individuals, as institutions, as countries, as authorities and the every steps that we are taking will make a difference. And there are a lot to do about that. The five areas which the recommendations concern on is about building capacity of stakeholders to create access, reuse, adapt and redistribute OVR. And as we all know that the OVR is the open indication resources. And the definition of OVR has somewhat been redefined since those recommendations was taken in November. The second one is about developing supportive policies in member states, in institutions, in countries at different kind of levels, encouraging inclusive and equitable quality OVR. And that is of course in align with sustainability development goals. It is about nurturing the creation of sustainability models for OVR, and about facilitating international cooperation. In fact, the fifth one about international cooperation, having influences and impact on all the other fours. So that is actually not a separate one because it has an impact on all the previous fours. So those recommendations is also about monitoring and evaluation. So member states also have to monitor and evaluate in a very, how to say a very videos and comprehensive way and there are guidelines for that how to do it. For example, deploying appropriate research mechanisms to measure the effectiveness and efficiency of OVR policies and incentives against the defined objectives about collecting and discriminating progress and good practices, innovation and research reports. And also about developing strategies to monitor the educational effectiveness and long term financial efficiency of OVR. And that is of course on different levels at individual levels, at institutional level, at country level, and what kind of difference it will make. And such as strategies could focus on improving learning processes and strengthening the connections between findings, decision making, transparency and accountability to inclusive and equitable quality education and research. And again, you can see that this is very much aligned with the STGs. And this process has been very, very long, not at least for the four last years, there's been several consultations, several conferences, several declarations coming up to this. So it is a very, very important step forward for opening up education. And with that, I will leave the floor to the other presenters to give their reflections and comments and thoughts about those recommendations and its impact. And I will start with Jander Wessler from Creative Commons, who also is also sorry, I will start with Roy McLeod, of course, who is the ICDE OVR UNESCO chair. And I will start to give the floor to you, Roy. And you have a very, very long experience, and you have been very, very much involved in the development coming so far with the OVR recommendations. So the floor is yours, Roy. Can you just start, Emma? Yes, please. Well, good afternoon or good morning, depending on where you are. It is a bit difficult to hear your voice. Can you maybe talk closer to the mic or adjust your volume? Is that better? Yes. Okay. I'd like to put to people that we are all responsible for implementing strategic development goal for UNESCO, which is education for all. And open educational resources have been identified by UNESCO as being one of the tools or one of the applications that we can use that will promote education for all. And I believe that open education resources are essential for this. I don't many people think that open educational resources are good things to have. And isn't it wonderful? And it promotes this, that and the other thing. And I believe it's even more important than that that they are essential. And I believe this for two reasons. One is because of digital rights management. And the second one is because of the digital licenses that is put on commercial content. So commercial content is generally strapped and it has that comes with it are applications that stop you from doing what you want to do with your device. They deliberately design for defectiveness to make your device incapable of being used the way you want it. And this is called digital rights management. And I prefer to use the term digital restrictions management, because it restricts you from using your device the way you want. So if you have commercial content, they put this digital rights management software in and it affects your operating system. And it can be it can be so bad that it destroys your your operating system. And it has done so in a number of occasions in the past. Digital rights management software needs deep permissions into the operating system. And it can stop your normal operating system functions. So what it does is when you get used commercial educational content is they limit you so you can't copy or paste. You can't text to speech. You can't change the format. You can't move material from one computer to another. You can't print it out. If you move geographically, let's say from Europe to America, you can't use the content that you purchased in Europe in America. And it usually has educational content, commercial content usually has an expiry date where they come in and just take it off your computer. And it has so many bad features that I'm suggesting that this commercial content we must avoid at all costs. And we must move to open educational open educational resources. They claim that their application along with their DRM is their intellectual property. But really, our devices are our property. And their digital rights management restricts our freedom to use our property the way we wish to use it. And it brings up this question. Can we not own and control our own property? This is a very serious issue that's coming up where they deliberately disable our computers in the way they want. Without us having done any offense, we can be totally innocent. And they have even in some cases, tried to put in poison pills that will actually destroy the operating system of a computer. And they've tried to bring it in with legislation. And if anyone has heard of error 53, on an Apple computer, an iPad or an iPhone, beware because it destroys your operating system. And it does that if you go to an unauthorized Apple dealer. This happened a few years ago. And I do believe that Apple has corrected that they don't do that anymore. But we don't know what else they're going to do, or what they're what they are capable of. Now, all of this is not going to be a problem. Because if we could just change it because really anyone can break these systems. No matter what digital rights management they put in, it can be broken. But what they've done then is reinforce digital rights management with digital licenses, where when you click on I agree, most people don't even know, and most people have never read the licenses that they've agreed to. But some of the things in those licenses are like, for example, you've agreed that the owners have no liability for their application, even if it doesn't work. You've agreed that they can invade your computer without permission. You've agreed that they can collect and use your personal data. You've agreed that the user has a privilege to use the product, not own it. You don't own your own product that you bought that you're prohibited. And this is a really nefarious one for education. You're prohibited to show your content to anyone else. Can you imagine students in study groups? And they're not allowed to show their screens to other students. And you must accept that you have no rights. So when you click I agree, you've agreed that you have no fair dealing or fair use rights. So they're very nefarious. And it shows that they want to have full control over you and what you do with your computer. The only solution I believe is that we just bypass this system, that we do not use commercial content and education, and that we move to open educational resources. And that way, we can copy paste, we can text a speech, we maintain our rights, our digital privacy, we can move things, print them out, etc, etc. So I strongly suggest that we must have open educational resources. We've entered this new world where you buy, but you don't get. You remember the world we used to live in, where you bought something, you owned it. Well, now you buy it, you buy your electronic textbook, but you don't own it, you don't get it. You only have the right to use it under their conditions. So it's a new world that we've entered. And I think that we as educators need to bypass it and use open educational resources. I'll, I'll finish with that. Yes, thank you. Thank you very much for your very wise, very comprehensive reflections on this. It's very important to think about. If you are attending this webinar, please feel free to write your comments or questions in the chat. For your information, this webinar is also recorded so you can, you can use it afterwards, you can go back to it, and you can also share it with your colleagues and friends. It will be find at the webpage for Eden for this webinar. So now I will continue to give the floor to Yandrin Wetzler from Creative Commons. And Yandrin is also an advocate for the Advocacy Committee by ICDE. Thank you. Of course, you're also Yandrin. You can hear me. So first, it's a pleasure to be here. And I feel very honored to be part of the presentation. I wanted to give a quick overview of what we at Creative Commons are doing to, to address the UNESCO OER recommendation and support countries in their work to address the action areas. But first, Creative Commons, for those of you who may not be familiar with us, is a global nonprofit organization that has built and now stewards the legal tools and licenses that, that kind of undergird open educational resources, and that are used to power movements around the world in education, in science and open policy and more. So we are delighted to find that I think there are over 1.6 billion licensed works online currently, and those span nine million websites. We also, we work in a lot of different policy domains and in training. So we're very eager to draw on some of our programs to help countries implement the UNESCO OER recommendation. And I, I couldn't agree more with Rory for his, his passion about using and harnessing the power of open educational resources to really further sharing, not just leasing access to information, but helping people have and own resources to share resources and be able to build on them together. So our main mission is about sharing. Before I, before I get into some of the details, I did want to note that we are currently at the very early stages of our work for addressing the UNESCO OER recommendation. And we are, we are working, or we will be working in partnership with the UNESCO dynamic coalition of countries and NGOs that will be addressing the recommendation and helping other countries do so as well. There's also a network of NGOs that will be helping the dynamic coalition and will be helping countries with their work as well. So there are a lot of activities in play and that are just starting. They're at the nascent stages of support. So I just want to note that because we are at the very beginning of this, some of the information that I provide today may not be final. And also, I'm not speaking on behalf of any of our partners or, or the coalition right now, I just want to make it clear that the commitments that I'm sharing today are ones that Creative Commons is, is ready to, to work on or is already working on. Okay, so the first thing that we're, we're doing is looking at ways that we can better understand country context and work with colleagues on research around the constraints and areas of opportunity to accomplish OER recommendation objectives. So I actually want to save a little bit of time in this presentation to return to this so we can actually brainstorm together some of these areas of opportunity. The second area that we're working on is the capacity building. So Creative Commons has a CC certificate training. And I will post the link to that in the chat space. This is actually something that I have the pleasure of managing. It's an online or in person training on international copyright, open licenses and best practices for using and kind of updating open educational resources to best do ones on needs in one's institution, and then also opening further avenues for sharing within one's institution. So we're looking at ways that we can train people in capacity for open licensing, and also strengthen their, their capacity as advocates. So one thing that we're doing with this training to best support the UNESCO OER recommendation is offer countries that are interested in upskilling a number of their, their counterparts, discounts for both purchases on this training. And we also provide all of the the resources for this training as open licensed educational resources, obviously, on our website. So please feel free to look at our website, you can download those resources and help share them with people who might be interested in building capacity as well. Third, we also we've worked with a number of national governments in the past, and civil society stakeholders to create, adopt and implement open licensing policies to ensure that publicly funded educational and research resources are open licensed or dedicated to the public domain. So this is to say, we want to make sure that resources that the public funds through taxes are still available to the public after they are created. We might create some open policy templates or open education policy examples, policy briefs, rationals, handouts, slides, talking points, and data to support advocacy and awareness building activities in these domains to encourage the open licensing policy support. And I know, before my time, Creative Commons has done a lot of work with with a number of different US government agencies to to really empower these efforts. And actually, when I formerly worked at the US Department of State, I had the pleasure of working with Creative Commons on some of these policies, which were really helpful to the State Department at the time. But other policies have been implemented at the US Department of Education, USAID, and so on. So we anticipate being able to adapt some of these policies to meet the different needs and contexts of other countries looking to implement open education policies. We certainly don't apply a one size fits all with the policy templates, but we do anticipate being able to help people with the kind of resources and support that would best help them implement, create, adopt and implement these policies. Okay, so I wanted to return to our first area of action, which is the research and actually use this time. I know we have a short amount of time together. But I wanted to use this as a chance to hear from you. I wanted to pose a question to us so we could use a couple minutes here to brainstorm how we might look at related goals and related advocacy efforts that can provide some mutual support. So what I want to ask you today is, where are there established international efforts whose goals may be different, but that can support our work in OER. And similarly, where our work addressing the UNESCO OER recommendation can support them meeting their goals. So what we're doing is looking for kind of a win-win scenario where we find kind of synergies between seemingly different efforts. And to start this, I actually, I created a kind of like a template list for this webinar. And I will put this, the link in this chat space right here. So what I'm doing is highlighting how we will start to think about the different areas of opportunity with other other partnerships or other efforts that might have different goals, but that might provide kind of mutual support for us. So if you click on the link, you will see I've listed already the open government partnership as an easy example of this, and I'm happy to talk about that a little bit more. I've also listed just looking at some of the efforts that are currently underway to address SDG4, because I know there are a number of different NGOs addressing SDG4, some of them through the lens of OER. But there are there are numerous other efforts that we might be able to list, including perhaps ICDEs, OER Advocacy Committee, which Aba had mentioned, or there are a number of others. So in the next couple of moments, I just want to make sure you are aware of what what fields you might fill in if and when you have time. And I will also just in case it helps walk through the first example of the open government partnership, just to give you a sense of the kind of potential synergies that we might be able to find. So please feel free to add to this list whenever you think of something I will be adding to this list in the in the near future as well. Okay, so if we look at the open government partnership example, currently, the open government partnership is a essentially a pact among 78 countries around the world that have committed to transparency and governance or increasing transparency actions that have committed to more engagement with civil society, more fiscal transparency and efficiency, and so on. So their their areas of focus lend themselves to OER efforts. And in fact, there have been a number of countries that have applied OER or committed to OER actions to meet the goals of the open government partnership already. I know because I was I was working with some of the commitments when I was in my former job. So it's it's a really wonderful avenue for us to explore. I think you can see a list of at least eight countries with OER commitments on the Spark Open Page, which is linked in column C. But there are a number of other countries that are not listed there. There are more than eight countries that have worked with open education to achieve their own goals in their national actions. So just really quickly, a couple areas of synergy that we might consider for this, we can where there are where there are open government partnership countries that are on the verge of making new commitments. We can highlight for them that their work addressing the UNESCO OER recommendation would be an easy commitment to make for the open government partnership. Essentially, they could get credit for what work they're planning on doing for UNESCO in the open government partnership. And it would be a very easy lift. This would also build on our momentum. So it would be an easy lift for them. It would also kind of strengthen some of the efforts that we are undertaking already. We might also. So I think we have to stop here again, Jendrin. Thank you. Thank you very much. And I think this document which you have created and shared with us is very important. And I think we all shall take a look at it and see how we can contribute. Because as both you has emphasized and also Roy, and also actually myself, we all have to be we all responsible for how this process will come forward. Now we can't now we have the recommendations and now we have to implement them and to monitor them and to do as much as we can. Because this is a unique milestone in the open education area, I will say. So with that, it is natural for me to leave the floor to Andrea in America, the Santas, who's coming from the USC and you have some years ago actually in 2016, you and your colleagues and from the USC that you have launched a very fantastic useful report about framework work for open education where we are is one part, of course. And you're also stressing that we are is not just the resources, but it's the whole you need to have the whole framework. So I will leave it to you, Andrea. Thank you, Eva. Hello, everybody. Good afternoon. Good morning, depending on where you are. It's a pleasure to be here. I think that most of you know the framework, Eva is talking about because we've launched it in 2016. As she mentioned, the the open education framework with the 10 dimensions of open education. But a lot of work has been going on as the European Commission since we launched this report. And I will briefly tell you what has been done in the state of the art. So I am waiting for my for my PowerPoints to be uploaded. But in any case, I will start by saying that the the Joint Research Center is the European Commission is the research arm of the European Commission. So our main job is to do research involving different stakeholders not only from European countries, but also from abroad. So most of these of these frameworks and reports that are that are briefly mentioned to you have had many hands collaborating to get them done. I wonder if I can. Okay, so this is it. We are the Joint Research Center. We are based here in in Spain, Seville, but our focus is mostly on the 27 still 28 member states now. Okay, so very briefly, briefly mentioned these two frameworks for you, which have to do with with OER, the digital competence framework for educators are mentioned later on in the open education framework. And it's just to remind everybody that the the perspective the Commission has always taken on on OER is to look at it embedded into into a more like say comprehensive way of looking at the use of OER not only as teaching materials, but also what can be done in terms of research in terms of technology in terms of collaboration and we call this whole area this whole great area greater area open education in general. I wanted to show you just a second. I think this is I'm gonna share with you. Okay, I'm sorry. This is a different this is a I have too many slides and I have to speed up a little bit. But this is the framework that we have with the 10 dimensions for action. If there is anybody who doesn't know it, you can check online or that we have in this in the content dimension is where we treat everything related to OER. So I think this webinar is about the UNESCO we are in commendation, which is great. And also beyond and I think that we are talking a little bit about the beyond now in terms of the work of European Commission because we have already done a lot of work in the area of OER and I just wanted to show you where to find them. If you are a researcher or an academic in particular, looking at implementing some of these ideas on how to go forward with OER in your own institution or in your own school. So OER would be in the content dimension as I said there in the center of of the framework. And let me talk about OER and open education in general in relation to pedagogy, open pedagogical practices, recognition of open learning, which has to do with open education, mostly based on OER, collaboration between teachers, know to share and adapt OER research, which has to do with open science, open research, open data sharing, all the sorts of things related to higher education in particular, opening up access and everything that has to do with technology, which I think Rory was mentioning in the beginning, know, or the free and open source software that needs to be used to enhance the sharing of OER, etc. OK. Can you hear me well? I'm not sure if you can. Yes. OK, great. Right. So I will go straight on and show you. This is the report when you can find everything about this framework, which is already well known. There is a summary in Spanish for anyone who prefers to read a summary in Spanish, which we just published last year. There is a link to it in there. But what I want to show you now is the newest report that we learned. So the base on this framework, which was launched last year, which is called the practical guidelines and open education for academics. So based on that framework, what we did was a kind of checklist for academics, mostly focusing on higher education, but it can be easily adapted to school education, right? To help academics implement open education amongst which practices we will find that the dimension of contents related to OER, to open educational resources. So we briefly discuss our understanding of open education, which goes beyond OER. To include MOOCs, to include open recognition of learning, open learning and everything that I showed you before in the framework. And here is just an example of how we deal with the dimensions. Now, for example, we have a core dimension, which is pedagogy. So on the left hand side, we have statements for reflection in which academics can think, whether they consider themselves open educators, whether they would like to become open educators, and what is the role of pedagogy. Now, in terms of being open, how open practices can help them become open educators, and obviously the use of open educational resources is treated in there as well. Now, the licensing of content, the sharing of content, the co-creation of content, the publication, adaptation, etc. So we treat these practices as open educational practices, OEP. And basically, it's a summary of what we did in the main report, bringing what you can do with simple ideas in the checklist for you to check, or for any educator to check, whether they are already doing these open practices and what they can do. Another example is the dimension of access. What does it mean to have access to free and open content, like who we are, what are our responsibilities in terms of how to deal with this content, how to reference this content, so on and so forth. So that report is very practical, and you can decide to work with all the ten dimensions, or for example, you can choose and pick and choose one of the dimensions that you'd like to focus most in terms of your own classroom or in terms of your institutional policies, no? Or even policies that relate to a country level, country level policies. I think this is interesting to give an idea of the things that can be done at a local level. This one in particular is related for academics. So just to tell you, so for each dimension we have these easy, let's say, easy to use papers, now that it can take away with you and distribute to the teachers of our institution to show them what they can do. We have also the dimension of content, I'm not showing it, but you can find in the report in which to discuss in particular who we are. But just to move on and very briefly say to you that we also have the digital competence framework for educators, the compadre, which is very well known in Europe and beyond. And we have a tool called checking tool, which we use to check the digital competence of educators. And mainly what we have just done now was to include open education into this tool. This tool is available to everyone. Any individual can go into this URL, particularly teachers, because it's focusing on teachers, and check their digital competence, their self perception, where they think they stand at the digital competence level between A1 and C2 levels. What we did just now was to include a further area, which is about open education, so that academics can also test whether they could improve their open practices. And the interesting thing is that this new tool that we are launching, the tool is already online, but it's going to be launched after the pilot, a new technological software, with the new questionnaire I'm talking about with the seventh area, which is about open education. It's going to be launched, firstly nationwide in Spain, and then across Europe, and we have a lot of countries wanting to participate at a country level to test the digital competence of their teachers. So I think this will help us to disseminate the concept of open education, what can be done in terms of where we are for digital materials, and also for open research, and scientific research, and that's our aim, is to embed all the theory that we have that we develop, and the framework that we developed based on our research as the commission, into the tools that can go into practice, let's say, at a member state level. So this is just a snapshot of the areas that the digital competence framework covers, and now there is this new area, which is open education, that we've embedded in the tool. Okay. And I just want to finish with the start of Bernard Shaw, because I think that when we are talking about open education, we've been dealing with it, some of us here for over decades, certainly. And we see how it progresses, is slowly but always a study, and this is important. It's important to be reasonable and try new things if we want to make it happen. So I think this OVR recommendation was a great way forward. And if this joint action comes from different parts, from governments, from schools, from individuals, individual academics, individual teachers, we can make it grow even more. So I'll stop here, and I'm open for questions when the time comes. Thank you. I want to thank you for what you have seen about working with them. The open education framework has really got a very large dissemination of things. I think quite many are using it and reflecting on it and referring to it at least. So thank you so much. I haven't seen directly any questions in the chat so far, but please feel free to write questions. And yes, the last one we'll see about to have the PowerPoints. The presentation is recorded, and all PowerPoints will be there as well. And this document, which Janrin shared with us, and I'm also sure that we will have some kind of follow-up events from this webinar, because there seemed to be a huge interest in the implementation of the OER recommendations. So let's continue the process and the talks. So I will now leave the floor to Dr. Sander Kassina-Azoptik, who is the president of EDEN. And then to listen to your connection and to listen to your way forward for EDEN. And we'll close yours, Sander. Thank you, Eba. Thanks to all presenters before me, because I think it's really, really good the way how the presenters have been chosen, you know, to give an overview, to give some creative comments, actions and policies working on and then from GRC to see what's already been done and coming at the end to the EDEN as an organization. So EDEN has been presented at the beginning by Eba, so I'm not going to talk more about EDEN as an organization such, but I would focus much more on what we are doing already in EDEN regarding the openness and open education. I would just say that, as Andrea said, these recommendations have come a really good way forward because lots of things have been done already in the field of open education, open access OER and very important things by GRC, European Commission, but also by creative commons and other institutions, educational institutions, the organization in Europe and worldwide. And what we can do as an organization as EDEN is regarding fostering and enhancing the further use of OER and openness in education. So in EDEN, we have already been doing some supporting and fostering of open education and building awareness on OER with joining and enhancing the open education movement and also contributing to the global movement of open education week. So I'm just going to say the last open education week, we contributed with the five slides. You can see the numbers. You can see that we have reached quite large audience with our webinars and open education week. And I think it's very important that we create the communities, the networking to gather people together to join, to discuss, to further get the ideas how they can contribute and be more open. And also we are preparing already for the open education week in Europe. EDEN is joining as well. So these are the topics which we will present this year during the open education week, the first week in the March. And in that way, we will continue discussion and challenges highlighted by community regarding the open education. Also, what we do is that our webinars, we produce a number of webinars we aim to share with the community the know-how and expertise from the expert. And all our webinars are recorded and publicly available. So we have quite large repository already of our webinars. Our proceedings from the conferences are published under the CC LIFEN, so they're open. We have a European Journal of Open Business and Learning, which is also talking about the issue of opening openness. And also EDEN is actually participating in EU projects related to the topic of open and open education, open access. So I think that the organization is important to enable people to get much more information about open education and openness in general and to make them aware that we need to be co-creators of everything, of the material, of knowledge and not just users. And this is one of the roles of the organization such as EDEN. So to make this change of the mindset shift toward the openness and also not talking only about education, but as well as research. In the research openness and research, as Jenrin already have been saying, research publicly funded research and you know what the project should be open to everyone. So regarding EDEN, we are also having our research workshops where we also talk about openness and open education and open research. And for the end, I would like to announce the annual conference in Tinshara, Romania, in June. And you can see the title of the conference, Human and Artificial Intelligence Society of Future, but also one of the tracks, or several tracks will be dealing with issue of open education and OER. So we provide the floor for further discussion in enabling community to build and to grow in awareness of openness and production of OER. So I would like to thank all the presenters for being able and willing to participate today and to my Eva, my dear colleague, working in our special interest group on self, who has a lot of energy and find the effort to organize this. Thank you so much, Sandra. Very good. So, Eden Secretary, can I have my presentation back? Thank you. So thank you very much all the presenters for your fruitful insights and also expressing what you are doing within the different organizations for your insights. I would like to stress that Wachidasko is very much emphasizing and promoting with this dynamic coalition, which was mentioned by Jenrin, for example, from all of them, it comprises of all the member states, and they are really trying to focus on those five areas of actions. I mean, there's a lot of things doing, but it will also be very good if each of us who are working with the implementation and the monitoring, if we also can relate it to those actions, because then it will be easier and more visible to really see what is happening around the globe with the ORL recommendations, which really, really are a milestone in the area of open education. And all of us who are believers and who are working in this area, we can all make a difference in our actions, within our actions, in our mindset where Sandra was mentioned and what each of our organizations are working on. This webinar is recorded, and then all presentations will be available. So please use it, please share it. And it was also suggested by Stephen Downs in the chat to share it in the email list of open education and open education resources for those who couldn't attend us for today. There's a lot of activities going on, and as you saw from Sandra's presentation, there's a lot of work with Egan throughout the coming events we are hosting and what we're working with on this area, and I'm sure a lot more will come. So with that, I will thank you all participants for today, and I would like to thank all the presenters for being here with us today and sharing your insights and fruitful thoughts about how we can make the way forward and how we with our different organizations both can work within our organizations, but also work together with each other, because that is also needed. And you who are coming from universities, organizations, educational settings or whatever, you have a huge role to play as well. As we need to work on both micro level, master level and micro level, and each of us can make a difference. We have an upcoming webinar again next month, and that is the 12th of February, and that will be about promoting open online learning in the workforce in Europe. A very interesting initiative from the European Commission, and there's also a lot of work about OER and about open education. So please join if you have the possibilities. It is already announced at the Eden webpage. Let me see if there are any more comments here in the end. It seems to me at least that you have been taking part in this webinar, have found it fruitful and useful, and that there's a lot of thanks to each of the presenters. And I will again thank you, all of you who have taken part in this webinar, the presenters and the participants, a lot for joining us in this very, very important milestone in the way of opening up education, to reach the SDG goals and to work for the future of education, learning for all and learning to become, which is the new initiative from UNESCO, learning to become. So I think we are more or less in time. It's for 30 years. So by that, thank you very much. And please stay connected with this last slide. I put also the link here with Eden. That is the link for the Eden webpage. So please be connected and stay in touch. So thank you very much, all of you.