 All righty Yeah, I figured like we won't really need to do much of Preamble because it's basically like let's set the stage end game. It's like, oh no The broken foundations of which a fumbling crumbling disaster crawls out of Another great day, but for storytelling It's you know, it's yeah, it's a triumphant day, you know We had we did a show that has a 60s aesthetic. Isn't that? That's a triumph. We had the money to build these sets Glorious purpose Yeah, which makes you wonder if they are gunning with a hole He's gonna get a revenge mission at some point on Thanos. It was kind of weird that scene in terms of like was he Is that what he's hoping for? I don't Can they are they gonna get Josh Brolin back or is he like done, you know I think he'd be done, but obviously he doesn't have to get revenge on Thanos, but he can want it I don't know if that's even what they were going for. I don't know I don't know in Well, I guess we'll let people file in Yeah, just chill out for a little bit longer and then we can start talking about it. Um So For those listening to this in the vaude form Right, you might you might be thinking wait, why did they do that? They didn't do this for winter soldier in wander vision So we're gonna do a little history lesson first while people pop in Wanda vision episodes one through three. I think this actually um, I was playing bloodborne at some point when we were talking about it But we were happy. We were like, you know what? We were pretty happy. Yeah It was a neat little show fun Characters were doing their thing and there was a lot of mystery Um, and they were taking this it was neat. It was neat and and then four or five six and and just yeah And then we went from you know, the rest no coverage to all right e-fap episodes You gotta go over mainly because the huge damage or destroying scarlet witch is a character. That was uh, yep She's gone Or very nearly gone depends what happens and then you got good old Good old falcon winter soldier, which I think after the first episode we were all just like Well, I think I think we all got kind of the that impression like a sort of uh, uh You know, you know, we were happy you can just tell We're happy with a bunch of things But uh, we were on board with some stuff here and there Which like this could be good depends how they do and the other time they got to the end It was fucking atrocious and painful this one took just one episode It took a couple of minutes. I think before It was clear that we're in a lot of trouble Yeah It's like immediately because this is the thing you got the fun job of you want to start your own tv show Well, you got to do the connective tissue between The last piece of continuity from the actual movies you want to use and then your show So it's like so where we start and it's like from the moment that Loki grabs that space stone Yeah I'm I'm pretty sure that um It was it was before the title credits played that it was already It's already fucked Yeah But we won't spoil that for you just yet Well, yeah, of course because I feel like most people haven't seen the episode yet. We watched it like well So we're getting out for like an hour. Yeah, we've already done it But hey, you don't need to watch it. All right. In fact, I would you know Well, we you know We could talk about why and for those other who are thinking of watching it. We'll just we'll just give you the summary um But in once once everybody's here, I guess or lots of people show up We didn't know we were going to be doing this by the way everybody. No, this wasn't intended. This was unplanned. Yeah But you know someone just said what before the title credits like yeah Yeah I've been working on a little end game video and the closer Loki got my thought process was Ha well, this this show is probably gonna it might be worthwhile to hold off. It was corrected me to hold off If yeah, I'm glad I hold off On finishing that script before watching even the first 10 minutes I mean it's like it will become clear the form of the hack writer to be like right So I just want everything to be my way. Okay, so I'm gonna have a couple scenes to have them say that like okay Um Yeah, this is a very unusual time stream So I wouldn't be surprised if the this is about as far as we'll get in terms of people getting wrestled up But of course this will be back on mula immediately Especially if we only do this for like an hour or two so I can get it on there real quick. So I guess we should begin So In the haunting of blind manor. Oh no There is a character named Owen And Owen Owens he's not a huge part of the show. He's pretty pretty, you know, great character very well acted and one of one of the scenes with Owen is He is expressing that This is after in I get somewhat I guess somewhat spoilers for blind manor if that's Regarding Owen I feel like I know what spoiler you're gonna give and it's not really a huge spoiler, right? If it's the one Owen Owen works at blind manor because he's a chef And he wants to be close to his mother. His mother is old and aged and she is very She's she's she's not gonna be around for too long. She's got a lot of mental issues She's not long for this world anymore and Owen He takes a lot of effort to Be there be close to her take care of her and it's clearly a drain on his life and it hurts him a lot and eventually His mother dies and he tells to one of the other characters that He feels a little bad for thinking this but he's kind of glad that she's dead Because it's just like this big weight has been taken off of him And That in a way is kind of how I feel about Loki I feel like the MCU was on life support It was something that was great something that I used to love something that I was familiar with And it's just barely hanging on Beep beep on that little monitor and now It's done It's dead. He ripped out the cord. It's sorry. It's it's not we're done. It's it's all the plug on Uh on the MCU it's done. It's finished. It's over nothing matters Reference folks. We're not dealing with Um, you know a villainous character who has a nonsense motivation We're not dealing with one of our main heroes getting assassinated. We're not dealing with the world being in a position That's just impossible considering everything we knew Like uh, just stupid things happening or whatever they have altered our understanding so significantly now That like it just renders all of the fucking drama of every single movie kind of void It's all it's over It's done. Yeah, it's it's um, it is From a world building perspective Loki is catastrophic in ways that I wasn't even We were ready for this. No, we we suspected it could have been because of uh The the the general premise that they were trying to sort of set up with the show But it's over and it's worse than you thought it was and it's worse than I thought it was and It's just one. It's a one guys. It is a one. It is a one. It's worse than it's a one out of 10 This is the worst MCU content level And this is the thing you'll come to learn very well about it's not about how much we liked it or disliked it We're strictly talking about respecting cause and effect. It's fun It's nothing matters Nothing matters anymore It's all finished. It's over So that's our pitch for this dream Yeah, we're we're gonna talk about why Loki episode one is a one out of 10. It's like it's it's It's yeah, it's awful um It is awful and only things that you As you say, it's got your standard problems in there as well. Not just good old-fashioned destroyed everything It's also got definitely really shitty contrived right in It definitely has that but like Goddamn there is really To get it out of the way first. Yeah, Loki the show it looks really cool. The aesthetics cool There's not really much of a reason behind it, but it's cool They had the money to build those sets. Yeah, I'm a little the gadgets the costumes. Yeah Um, yeah, that's that's all needs But strictly in aesthetics and it's just cool. That's that's all there is to it because I don't really get why a time variance authority that was created by blue lizard people That exists beyond space of time would have a 1960s america aesthetic and be populated entirely by human beings That's a little weird. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Um Yeah, yeah, I I was underplaying it. It's not a little weird. It makes no sense, but um Yeah, um, they have good actors, you know tom hitterson's Yeah, it's like he's acting well all the acting. He's acting Yep, as good as good as he can with the material considering how he's acting. Yeah Considering that this is it. They clearly are doing their own version of Loki here. Um, uh I guess that's good. It's fine. Oh my god Who knows maybe he couldn't have acted any other way Well, well, yeah, because people are going to be curious like what is the thing then and it's like We'll we'll make it clear when we go over the thing this destroyed everything. Um It's funny because like this the second the show starts, right? You know the we they recount to us the events event game Just strictly from Loki's POV kind of and then he grabs the thing and it ports him to um a desert I forget which derby desert in mongolia. Yeah For some reason it fires him out of the sky Like see that this is immediately a problem for me because it's not I don't even know why they did it in terms of like entertainment value I guess it looks kind of cool and it's fun, but um Either he can control it or he can't right? So if he can't Was that incredibly lucky? That yeah, what if he teleported himself into the vacuum of space? Yeah Would was he did he know where he was going the time cops know where he was going? Well, the time cops do know where he went because they know everything. Well, they detect him through an anomaly, right? Yeah, so they can just detect anomalies throughout the entire universe But and how does wonder why they didn't I don't make I don't I don't know I don't know So I know that they have a big organization However, when you are keeping track of all time and space across the multiverse of like how could you possibly We're getting ahead of ourselves multiverse because this show is exploiting if we are getting ahead of ourselves Well, okay fine. We'll just go with They have access to all of time and they detect anomalies in all of time to the point We say for example if someone went to grave rob from the year 2000 back to the 1800 they would detect that and stop you Which is really interesting and you might in chat be wondering well Why would they stop you just because you're using time stuff? It's like oh no no no It's that you're using time stuff and they don't like that. You've done it that way Yes, someone could go back in time and grave rob and they might go you know what that one's good because that's a part of the plan Yes, that's the plan moller. Why would one? Easy answer easy answer for that three lizard people set the plan Yes, the three lizard people decided At some point in time in the past presumably a very long time ago that the avengers They can go back in time. That's okay. That's part of the plan But when Loki now exists, which they had to know would have happened Presumably if they knew what was going to happen in in uh in the future. Well, they can time travel. So yeah I don't get it the avengers Right, it's funny as I was saying it out loud. I was like wait a minute that wait like, you know Remember that they pop around to the 1800s the 1500s the modern day so you guys can just go anywhere whenever you want Yep, you can go anywhere wherever you want and you know that the avengers were going to go back And yeah, you think as a result of that they would then have to like this is a little this is still problematic as fuck for writing But the quest would be like, okay So, uh, you know Tony Stark and blah blah blah they knocked the space stone into Loki's hands So we're gonna have to go back to that time and prevent that from happening To get the timeline but they decided instead not to do that but to make it a lot harder for themselves Well by going they'd capture Loki Yeah, and you'd think like how does this not just fuck with everything anyway Well, yeah, because now my question is so you know how like Loki gets taken he poops out and thoughts they're like Hey, Loki, where are you what that's still happening, right? It doesn't matter that you've come in and taken Loki away. That's still happening There is a tangent timeline that exists Where Thor is standing there looking around for Loki and the tesseract doesn't exist and Thor 2 doesn't happen Thor 2 doesn't happen and we know that the tesseract ain't going back because they keep all of the infinity stones in a draw in a desk At the time variants authority They have like six space stones five reality stones Like four or five space stones and two mindstones So it's nice to know that black widow sacrificed herself for an object that's a paperweight sitting in a fucking desk That's a paperweight. That's really cool for a dumb stupid joke But but wasn't it hilarious? It was pretty hilarious. Yes That makes it all worth it This frame, I don't think I've seen a single frame that has destroyed so much in such a short amount of time Like this and ironically this image should be shown in every film school Yeah, because this is what this is what it's without any context of what this image is you'd think it's just oh, that's weird It's just jewelry and a thing blah blah blah. No, no, this is how you actually destroy an entire Just cinematic universe in one image. Yeah, this is why you wanted this is it You wanted a joke and you didn't care what it meant because what does the Black widow and the people who understand the most are the ones who will laugh the least Yeah, because this isn't a you know what it means pain. This is pain Looking at this image black widow died for something this guy just the people uses paper weights in the time variance authority And remember that and yeah, we will never know how many times hawk I won because he wasn't allowed to win No, that's right. He wasn't allowed to win. He has no free will in the mcu It is like confirmed free will doesn't exist to make sure everybody's clear on this, right? The way this works is the lizard people they have the sacred timeline Which means everything happens the way that they want it to happen So if rags waking up one morning, he's like, do I have drink of water or drink a drink of milk or some melted snow Yeah, like it's just like, I don't know which one of these things am I gonna pick and he picks the wrong one They will I guess fuck with time until he picks the right one Yeah, and melt the variant copies of rags who didn't make the correct decision Yeah, like literally rags could pick up the wrong glass and then they'll teleport in capture him Take him to this retarded fucking facility. And if he even steps out of line, they'll erase him before erasing it Anyway, if he forgets to grab a ticket Uh, they'll turn him into flume juice and He'll go to a court and they'll say, how do you plead? I plead not guilty. You're guilty. Bye. Bye That's it at least at that point the other dude got fucking vaporized The other guy got vaporized before he got his trial because the time variants authority are assholes They are except for Owen Wilson. He's Except for Owen Wilson. He's like the only one dude. It's a horrifying regime already. Like yeah, this is their ultimate villains of the The universe the cause I can't even say you know the cosmos the the old they are an unelected and undemocratically ruled Completely beyond any level of accountability authority that decides everything that is going to happen in all of existence And if you step out of line, they'll kill you I'll kill you. Yeah, it will vaporize you out of whim Without any issues whatsoever. I don't know like chat. Do you do you understand? This is very bad This is very very and again No, free will every decision that was made Tony was always going to snap his fingers and use the stones So wait, so dr. Strange saw 14 million possible futures, but there weren't 14 million there was one All of them were variants Oh, I see so So they weren't possible then. No, he obviously his limited squishy monkey brain thought that they were options But they're all variants. Oh, and now you've just provided me again. So I was writing my notes for my script um, so What the show establishes is that the timeline splits at nexus points or nexus junctions These are instances where somebody or something has deviated from the way that things were supposed to be Um, now you might remember that in endgame till the swinton says that removing a a stone from existence is what creates the variation Now that's really stupid But this show has confirmed that it is indeed not removing the stone But that there are many reasons why a timeline might Might vary no matter how you look at it. There is something wrong with this explanation Neither of these can coexist with each other. So there's an inherent contradiction in the universe But either one of these explanations makes no sense Just functionally it makes no sense and by the way the multiverse like it's not There is no It is not what you would think it is where it's like, oh, we've got like this multiverse But there's also this other universe that's running and doing all of its own things All of the multiverses that exist in the mcu are splitting off from one singular timeline There is no other universe where ramy spider-man existed and did his things legitimately It doesn't make sense that there could be because this show says explicitly The longer that there are no other timelines that if there are other timelines it spirals out of control And then there's a timeline war. This makes no sense They say the multiverses fight for control of everything. I don't know what the fuck they meant And they just this is just delivered to us. It's such lazy exposition because They're like hey look quirky 60s animation style while relaying incredibly stupid information to us Genuinely like it was just random information like just dump it and fuck it because we can't be asked And then like from that point on every time that's anything's referenced as confusing they laugh it off They're like They lampshade So to be clear Fringy, what is lampshading for those of us who don't you know, aren't that familiar with that term? It doesn't it doesn't pop up that much in our so lampshading is when And a character or like something in the story A floor and then they joke about it and move past it as if the floor doesn't exist Like as if their acknowledgement of the floor renders it Not a lot of relevance. Yeah Because they're like, oh, this is stupid. It's like oh, I mean I don't I think it's actually worse that you know That this is stupid and you did it anyway So it's even worse Um Loki was pretty hardcore destroyed but like in this episode we we We have material that if this was like a good show would be The ending of Loki's arc throughout like a whole season or a whole couple of seasons So first of all like he's been assassin in terms of he's absolutely incompetent like he's not the same person Yeah, he's making so many fucking decisions that are frustrating It sucks as well because he's you should be more competent now than ever This is like super cunning evil Loki that'll do anything to benefit himself. This is adventures. Loki Which is yeah, avengers. Loki was really intimidated if you watch that movie again his arrival. He just fucks everyone up um in this He like Meets with the fucking time cops. I don't even know what else to call them. They have like these time variance authority tv fuck that the time cops they have little like Batons that when they hit you with them, they put you in slow motion Um, don't question how that makes any fucking sense Like yeah, just just go with it. I guess sort of thing. They hit you with time Flume juice like they will just have to keep going without guns um And so they Loki because he's stupid right spawns in the desert and he's like wow How weird is this then the time cops just show up and he's like, uh, you know what get out of my way Um, Loki and then they hit him and he's like law and gets frozen and it's like, huh You know what Loki was really good at throughout all of avengers which took place like half an hour ago in his timeline Really good at setting up fake loki's Oh Really good at it. He actually wins a few times. Yeah, he wins a few times by doing it um And no he he his real self walks up to these people He doesn't recognize who just teleported in and clearly are a threat and he's just like get out of my way Oh, no, I've been imprisoned. Oh no And especially considering that he just got his ass beaten by hulk for talking and getting too close and not doing that and getting distracted by his speeches Man, I feel like he wouldn't make that kind of mistake twice, but he does because he's not the same person It'll be it'll be cool. Yeah, you think he's a cunning clever character Why can't he make a fight scene where he gets out Smarted because they're like really fucking competent cops or whatever But he actually gets to do all of the things that he fucking does You know work hard Fight just be clever. No, never mind And yeah, they basically just have this throwaway line where it's like your magic doesn't work here lol It's like, oh, I don't know why that would be the case at all The infinity stones don't work there either the infinity stones don't work and yeah everything's because it's beyond space and time Kind of like that place in fucking crisis Yeah, even though we're clearly existing and moving around this location and breathing That's what I mean. It's just funny. It's like, oh your magic doesn't work here because it's outside of what existed This is like so we're the fuck are we but we're here, but we're we clearly exist. We breathe we exist We have atoms. I don't understand Yeah, events are occurring so time exists Yep, and there was space because you were moving around it and things around and interacting with things So where are we? But we don't know because we'll lamp we're just not acknowledge it Because we want our our nifty little 60s aesthetic. We just want it Do you like how Loki made a completely valid point and she said no cause reasons. Which one is gonna say which one? Loki has a lot of questions that are very reasonable questions to ask that are very just But they just don't care Oh, also that's just reminding me again of Loki being so Loki Loki got 30 minutes earlier Loki got smashed into the floor so hard by Hulk that it was cracking But yet he almost loses a fight to a person Well as far as we can tell just a human being so Part of there's so many things to talk about this this episode is like so bad in so many ways because they've just Given us all this new information, but like you like the time cops. All right. So what are the capabilities? Like they seem to just be humans I don't know what else to say regular like but they have these teleporters They have capabilities that can rewind you in time. They have like weapons that can slow people down They're killed by fire Yep, you're like really guys like you don't you have why did I bet a thing? It's like the so much like everything depends on you not failing from your perspective And you just yeah, I guess you just expect people to comply and not shoot a bullet into you kill by fire Timeline went four or five of your cops get burned to death in a place like how do you fix it? They put a thing down on the ground that resets the like the area. I don't know how that Yeah, how does that make any sense? Did they cover the Avengers tracks? Is that the logic the event? How do you the event? How do they know that what they didn't end game could work? They didn't know what the time variance authority was How do they know that it was because they were supposed to do all those things so the tva never showed up But why would the event? But the Avengers don't know that You know, well exactly exactly the Avenger. I mean, it's just it's just fortunate for the Avengers Because the thing that they thought that they thought of they were going to do no matter what It's bad So bad I just picture that they're like they would be so on the ball Because they have access to all of time. They know how everything's supposed to go They have devices that can slow and rewind time. These people should be unstoppable And they should know everything when they they walk into a scene, right? Like they should see for example Loki They should literally have arrived and been like, ah Loki the god of mischief and then he'd be like Confused and like what the fuck's going on and they should have like full control over everything They should know exactly what his powers are. That's another thing. They don't fucking recognize him Most of the people there like this some guy was like, oh the guy with the cube Which is just because he saw him earlier, but nobody knows him. It's like dude. He's like the son of odin It was powerful entities go Because this is the thing you can't spend infinity stones. They don't care who they don't even care about infinity stones Yeah, why would odin matter? Why would asgard and midgard and I have everything the cosmos Thanos spent his whole life searching for stones that he could have just found in a desk I don't know what the fuck they were thinking because this is the thing if you want to try and imply these people exist Like beyond our existence, which is always going to be fucking annoying to accept Um, they simultaneously like don't even consider threats whatsoever But they can be killed easily by someone lighting the ground on fire like It doesn't seem to work for me And then wouldn't just other people be like, oh wow in In 18 whatever a bunch of our guys just walked in and got killed We should probably rewind time and sort that out. Maybe we should go there like a minute earlier. Can we do that? Can we go a minute earlier? Yeah, I don't even know what their limits are with stuff like that Or let's just go let's go a day earlier and just have a stake out and just see what happens Yeah, I this it should be impossible because if they fail they'll just be like, oh All right, let's go a minute earlier. You have to understand try to defeat a time traveling team Are they all like it's I don't think it's possible. I don't think it is possible. No But if they they know what you're gonna do and if and they can have as many tries as possible, it's just You can't do it It can't work. You can't have this story At least not in the way that you've you've presented it I still don't get how you rewind people but they don't they only rewind they like they remember their memories and stuff I mean though you're rewinding them. I guess those rags that it was like a teleporter like it it remembers where you were Moves you back. Yeah, it doesn't have anything to do with time necessarily Yeah, it doesn't reset you it resets your position because you remember being reset which wouldn't have happened yet If you were rewinding the person you hadn't even you know It's not even good security like Loki could still kill Owen Wilson if he caught him off guard Well, yeah, he can have no cameras or something. They have no cameras You can just walk around and be in contact with him What if that what if he had taken all those infinity stones and hid them in his parking and ran away And went back to yeah, and went back Yeah, well, because this is the thing they're like, uh, well, you can't use them so hard It's like so all he needs is someone who can open up one of those square teleport things and then he's good Then he's got all the infinity stones And what happens if you have multiple infinity stones in the same timeline? Presumably that's impossible, right? What if he snaps away the tba? Can he do that? Can he snap away? Even though the infinity stones control of every fundamental aspect of existence I was gonna say it's pretty simple. They're just you know, you have existence and then you have the tba They're just beyond existence. Even though they exist beyond existence. It's a nice little it doesn't make any sense It makes sense once you understand that there were several timelines and then three time lizards decided to make the sacred timeline I guess they have the power to do that Have we have the lizards have the power? Oh, what even are the fucking time lizards? What are we? What are they? The writing basically just says that a long time ago There was a lot of multiverses which we assume was how the cosmos worked Um, but they had a big war because the the multiverses fought over which multiverse would control everything which is fucking stupid What apparently that's what happened and so they're just appeared these space lizards Who created a sacred timeline to make sure that everything only happens a certain way from now on so that there's not going to be a big war Well, yeah, let me let me read to you the text as it shows up in uh on screen Uh, okay, so don't don't don't long ago. There was a vast multiversal war Countless unique timelines battled each other for supremacy Uh, nearly resulting in the total destruction of everything now. I don't know what that means timelines fighting and then Consequently destroying all of them. I don't know what that means. I don't know who were the belligerents Fight I guess. Yeah, timelines. Like do the timelines fight or do the people in the timelines fighting? each other You know what I mean? Like what what's fighting the timelines start to battle you'd be like how? And then and then it says but then the all-knowing time keepers emerged from where They were just always around I guess. Why didn't they stop the war before it happened? It says they emerged. It says they emerged. That's why Where do they get their powers from? Where do they draw their powers from to control the timelines because it says they bring peace by Reorganizing the multiverse into one timeline. You want an explanation for everything? Did they have free will before the time was arrived? I guess I guess they did that almost makes it weird Destroyed free will. Yeah, like the time was decided. You know, I'm kind of the best guy to decide what everyone should do So I'm gonna do that. Well, yeah, I guess so basically dictators They decide how everything in existence occurs and you don't get to say anything. Otherwise you get melted Yeah, we kind of to state how casually they will fucking melt you Like they casually melt him as casually as the grandmaster melts that dude, and he's a bad guy. Yeah, he's a villain Um, and yeah, so they created the sacred timeline, which is like basically where everything in the mcu takes place The time keepers protect. All right, go ahead. Just to clarify because so I I know someone I was like what does it mean to be the sacred timeline? It's like so the only explanation we really get is that it's the way that things are supposed to properly be Yeah, it's the way that the time It's the way that the lizards say that things should be I think they actually use the word proper like and it's just like you fucking kidding me There's a mean word like you don't tell me it's the real one the legitimate one the proper one The time keepers protect and preserve the proper flow of time So basically when iron man made the choice to fly the the the bomb through The the wormhole that wasn't really his choice because any time that he didn't do that He was melted and then they had to do it again Yes, I just to be clear because this this is what was really breaking anything Everything that has ever happened in the marvel cinematic universe could not have ever happened any other way No character ever made any choices if for whatever reason There was some kind of a deviation from the timeline which as far as we know can't even be possible in a lot of circumstances Then they get captured by the tca They get vaporized and then the timeline is reset so they could try again Yeah, and this happens We don't know if this has happened once Twice no times Well, yeah, that's the thing between zero one Infinity like we have no idea Tca tva whatever it doesn't matter there's space Nazi fascist evil people Yeah, so they cover like the proper flow. That's the team. We're on the side of by the way I think they're trying to tell us is that the tva is the good guys, but I want them all to die Well, here's here's where we get our further explanation. Sometimes people like you veer off the path the time keepers created Uh, this we call those variants. So that's what Loki is because the event is fucked up Loki is the consequence if we can pause there It's like how do they determine whose fault it is that a cube appeared in front of him and he picked it up How was that his fault? Well, that's the thing is we don't determine faults because he didn't even get a fair trial They said are you guilty or not guilty? He said not guilty. They said you're guilty You're gonna die That was a waste of time. Why do I even bother trial thing? Why are you bothering? We've already made up your mind And it's not a show trial because you're not trying to convince anyone else that it's actually a trial You're just gonna let him exist. Yeah, and you can't you feel like it clearly isn't a bureaucracy thing either Because nothing happens. Nothing's achieved They just declare him guilty and this by the way applies to the stupid fucking is this every word you've ever said Please sign By the way, if that was every word he's ever said, he's a fucking Asgardian. It'd be way bigger than that He's been around for good jillion years 1500 years old Wow That's what we see that it's like One page is only about 300 words if that was so really that that thing should be like a library Way more have the ability to monitor and record these things Well, we've been a way more low key thing to do would just be fuck with the machine to keep talking and just being like Do you think you can outlast me and the idea that it's like, please sign this like that's like one of the most basic things Everyone ever knows don't fucking sign random shit. Let's just like yeah, it's like no, I can't verify this Why go through this charade? I don't know. Who is it? There's also no Way that the real low key would put up with any of that shit. Nope And he wouldn't be incompetent enough to have been captured It actually would have been cool if they had like attacked him and it was the illusion in the opening And he's already gone like strong independent whammin Beating the shit out of Loki and dragging him to the already knew what's gonna happen The time being replaced I think we just wanted to distract us with like he just thought that she was harmless and now look he's been out Outmatched like yeah, okay, even though he's a god Well It's so entirely based on whether or not the plot wants him to do anything because he just fucking beats her later And we were all so surprised like whoa, he's been Shocked I was like Yeah, I was like this is unprecedented in the mcu. This black woman just lost to a white male And that's kind of like I like I've actually shocked me. It's like this isn't right someone fucked up So I got fired over that blunder Um, there was the next line was maybe you started an uprising or we're just late for work So you can be late for work and then get turned into flume, you know That's um possibly one of the most damaging clarifications in the entire episode. They probably thought it was funny They never should have done that because now they've they've let us know that even the most micro of choices in your life can lead you to be melted Yeah, you get executed by the tva if you're late to work and you weren't supposed to be late to work Tilda Swinton was wrong removing the stones from the timeline is irrelevant It's just it could be very minimal trivial choices that you made that you'll get pay to visit by these guys and melt You can argue she's wrong twice over because The tiny events can get you melted but also taking the stones doesn't get you melted if you were supposed to do it Yeah, because the avengers took them and that was okay because you were they were supposed to they get Anyone listening who's confused like at one point They basically he says like it was the avengers that fucked everything up and then she He was like no the avengers did what we wanted them to do. That's fine Except you were just so it was fine for them to Fuck with reality Yeah Yeah, it's fine for them to do all of that but Loki literally gets the tesseract at his feet and he does the thing that Loki would do Yeah, well, he should have known that And they knew that he would have done that because they knew that that was a possible and again, dr Strange, he looked at futures. I don't know like I guess he saw this. He knows what the tvar I guess But anyway it continues whatever it was stepping off your path created a nexus event. So it doesn't it's not it's not stones That doesn't really matter and apparently if it if it's unchecked it could branch off into madness Leading to another multiverse war. Oh Isn't that cute? Um, but don't worry to make sure that doesn't happen the time keepers created the tba and all its incredible workers I To clarify if they created them and they they are outside of time and space and reality and everything Why are they so shit? Like you had infinite ability because of course they are pretty powerful But like why aren't they just the most efficient creatures in the yeah, like It should all just be perfect. Why isn't it perfect? You have infinite resources Yep, why aren't you bulletproof and like why do they make you susceptible to being burned by fire? Um, but anyway the tea oh, yeah Oh, just reasons that's why yeah, it's so well so that they can have conflict and drama. That's the reason why they don't Huh, and then the tba has stepped into fix your mistake and set time back on its predetermined path. Yay predetermined Everything this is yeah, this is not it just just this thing if anyone tells you Oh the mcu shit because it makes everything deterministic. No no no no no it's even worse worse than determinism It's predeterministic Yep And so there's a thing by these lizard people if if by some stroke of luck This show actually dismantles all of this and they let the timeline run its own way by the end It's too late. You've already fucked all of the film like everything that's come before. Yeah Yep There's no fixing this Um And yeah, they say that it leaves you without a place on the timeline and now you have to stand trial for your crimes His crime Your offenses. Yeah, he didn't even ask what his charge was No, oh, and that's another just the standard shitty writing He basically does a show of like you think you can get me. Well, I'm the god of mischief Oh, what my powers aren't working. It's like, you know this you would have known this already like It's been ages you would have tried to do this a bunch of times before But it's kind of like the stuff with the test record. He's like, of course. I tried I tried everything Nothing works here. And it's like, yeah, you didn't get that before. All right, cool Well, the filling part is it's not over. He knows that he has to get into one of those Square teleport things like rectangles. That's that would be his goal He has to get through one of them and then he's safe because he can go anywhere he wants Doors from star trek. Yeah I can't believe they just casually have them and like I'm already I think I said it when it happened I was like, this is going to be significant going forward. You can just spawn teleport It's just like Dr. Strange's teleports, but they can do it with like tech. This isn't limited to a sorcerer Yeah, there's no magic And you understand that's probably one of your best weapons But well, it's it they never think it is as powerful as the space stone because the space stone can get you Anywhere you want exactly a TV. I can just do it painful that they casually show this and you know what? I'm under arrest under exaggerating. They can go anywhere in time and space And space. Yeah, it's both. It's insane And like what what even is the nature of the this facility? Remember the guy is like, I've been behind a desk my whole life I don't know what a fish is Yeah, like even though he's been watching time go by him Yeah, like how do you observe all of the history of the universe and you end up less educated? How do you think that you mean a fish is everybody would be shockingly intelligent? They would be different people they'd be Ack Yeah, there would be the kind of people you speak to and they wouldn't it wouldn't be familiar because they've got a Different perception of just everything Is that you have to have chromatic relief? It's going to be an obscure as fuck reference, but fucking You 20 pooch points in the chat if you if you know about it but You guys remember the first level of obsidian you guys know obsidian the the game Game company No, no, no, we're going way back to 1997 obsidian Obsidian was developed by rocket science games. I don't even know if they're still around By the way, thomas dolby did the uh, he did the music for obsidian. So check that out. Um Five pooch points if you know who thomas dolby is but uh for those of you who know all those robots with the uh with the The little mechanical arms and the their faces were video screens that were just a mouth That would move and they had all of these little bureaucratic Kinds uh stands and lobbies and things That that that should have been the tva So Someone just said the guy spent his life behind the desk He wasn't watching movies about the universe. You don't want that to be the case You don't want that to be the case because it brings up a so many other questions If he's just a normal person you would have lost his fucking mind by now And that makes you think wait are they not humans there or are they slaves? What are they? Do they have free will? How could you not know what fish are fish were like the first things on earth? Well, I don't know what exactly what exactly was his education just english and in which case It doesn't matter what he is it doesn't make sense chat Has everybody always been an adult in the tba or what I did i like this He's clearly not a normal human. It's like thank you so much Yes, you know because normal humans know what fish are normal humans don't have control of the time and space He hasn't been sitting at a desk watching the evolution of every planet in the fucking universe And guess what there's fish in the fucking universe. You're telling me that he never saw one once What is his job that he sits at the desk and what files papers? Yeah, what are you suggesting? Now I'm kind of wonder like what could his job be that wouldn't just be done by a robot and then is he a robot Fucking I don't even know Listen I'm about to get upset at the stupidity. It's in chat right now It doesn't matter if he's human That doesn't mean anything How can he not know what a fish is considering where he works and what he does? It doesn't matter if he's human or if he's uh an as guardian Or if he's from the miscura or if he's french, it doesn't matter. He's gonna know what a fish is It's just one of these little But it doesn't make sense He sits by the desk checking people in you see, so why would he know what a fish is? I fucking hate this shit Well Oh Everything that ever matters I Yeah, I mean, I didn't think it would be this don't find a way No, let's find a way Don't find a way think of uh, Loki watching uh his life flash by as he sat there crying So this is there's a complaint. He's an under shit We we well I was gonna say before that right so this is problem that we have where infinity wall was kind of Neat we all kind of like that. It was fun thumbs up and one of the things they do in infinity wall that was like Oh, that was that was really neat is they killed some characters in events that were outside of the stones So or rather outside of the snap So we all assume those are the guys that stayed dead Those are the ones that we actually lose meaning that the stakes of infinity wall still remain even if the snap is undone to some degree now we got um vision Got repaired and his memories were reinfused after having been lost because scarlet witch and imagined You know you guys saw it whatever so vision Is potentially like one movie away from being back. It's like damn, okay Um gamora is of course been killed, but an ultimate universe But gamora is currently on the guardian ship So hopefully I guess the tv. I don't give a shit about her. No, that's that's that's all part of the plan I guess Which is it's the ultimate hand wave It's the this is literally he works in mysterious ways. It literally is that yeah It's one to one this time It's like, well, how come why did the tv a allow? These you know the half of the universe to get snapped and then re snapped and then all this stuff to happen because The tv a works in mysterious ways Yeah, it's kind of like the eternals that just sat by even though they helped This is where they just slept who's more powerful the eternals or the tv a are gonna be these guys Yeah, because they exist beyond space and time I don't fucking anyway. The thing I was trying to say was I'm worried that in guardians 3 I'm pretty sure james gum will do better than this But if they reset gamora and you know and you might be thinking yourself like well How would they do that so quickly and it's like well, you know, I'm gonna go hypothetical here Imagine a character was killed and then taken to this this area from a different dimension Where he watches his whole life From that alternate timeline and thus gets a jog of his memory of exactly what his arc was to go back to being the character We all knew before he died Imagine if they did that that would be crazy if they did that Yeah, because you do not you do that in like two minutes in the first fucking episode And you have him tear up Well, he watches what are actually meaningful scenes based on arcs and you just have him arc In like what is essentially previously on Loki's life Like actually embarrassing and frustrating In in one episode we learned Loki never really wanted to hurt people. He's just you know, he's complicated Um, but he didn't need to go on an arc to learn that he needed to go to the tv and spend half an hour in a waiting Not only that he admits that he's weak and he only does it to appear strong to other people Loki This isn't even the show saying that it's Loki saying it about himself. So in the first episode Yep Loki's motivation was really damn strong And it's funny because he was the first of the villains of the mcu where people were like this one's not so bad though Loki's pretty good Yeah, and he was pretty good. Yeah, he was being the operative word Because now he's fucked Not to mention because like this is the thing about Thor 2 um This film basically lays out like one of the positives of Thor 2 It's like you you want kind of a bit of vengeance on your brother and you send the dark elves to him But you could get your mum killed and that sets you on a journey as among other things that uh Get you to be a good guy just fyi and he's like, oh And then he watches himself die and he's like, oh man. This is all really sad Loki the clever actual real Loki not this bizarro world Loki should have said But I couldn't have not done that you told me that I had to have done that So it's your fault. It's the time lords fault It's the time lizards fault that that happened because they made me do that. I didn't have a choice How can you punish me for that? I'm gonna gonna praise end game here. You ready for anything? You ready? I'm gonna do this. Oh my god So they try and do this with uh nebula. They give her what she needs to know to arc her But it's too quick and so she doesn't arc Yeah Just because like you say it took you 10 years to argue someone from position x to y And you know what the the main argument that you won them over was and you go back 10 years and tell them that It's not gonna just work It probably won't work You remember how in south park a comedy show that plays hard and fast with like a lot of stuff Had an episode where cartman a future cartman comes back in time and tells him This is where you turn it around you stop eating junk food You know you work hard in class you stay away from drugs and you become the CEO of your own company And then cartman immediately dismisses the idea and does the opposite of that. Yeah, that's what people do That's what people would do. Yeah, let's suppose it's just a good payoff and a much better understanding of character It's a good payoff in end game because it it's like Nebula's not just she can't it's like it's too quick. It's not gonna happen when she fears Thanos too much at that point Yeah, so she doesn't she's still a threat, but now but Loki this is the thing Loki should just reject all this shit He has to live it can't just watch it. He didn't even know if that shit's real Yeah, it even says this is all an illusion. Yep. He does Well, I've seen people in chat saying like are any of these things even problems if it turns out It's in like some kind of machine by the end of this season and it's the ones fucking with them I mean if we got to go brain in a vat we could but We don't have we're giving the show more credit than that Yeah, let's just say if if they do turn out to be that this is all assuming that's not the case Fucking hell. I hope they don't do that. It's like Loki's not even really a character He's just a plot device that's moving from thing to thing. We don't ping pong bowl Aside from him sitting there and crying like he doesn't really have any character development Like when you go and watch Back to the Future It's a fish out of water situation with Marty McFly, right? But we're watching everything from his point of view. So we're seeing this whole new world through his eyes This is just Loki getting pushed from room to room making cheesy ridiculous comments that would never come out of Loki's mouth Yeah, well getting appropriate ones that they just ignore and several speeches about all the exposition because this is entirely fucking like nonsense New Gamora is the same as old Gamora pretty much. Please stop No, she's a new person Please stop. This is one of my issues with this character is that they hit the reset button with her That was it now. Yeah Well, yeah, this the new Gamora is not the old one. They're two different people Very very different if you watch Guardians 1 and 2 it took a while to get Gamora from where she was to where she ended up And she's dead and she got that that character got not even like reset it's a new version of this character that's been put in her place same actress and same voice but a different person She's not a new person. What are you? Biologically, it's probably the same person but mentally She is not the same person Yeah, like I feel I feel kind of like doesn't have any of those experiences feeling a bit itchy right now I'm like, oh, you think she's the same because she looks the same damn Like that's I mean, it's just look at your own life. You're not the same person you were last year There's some Shit has happened in this past year that makes all of us different people Doesn't mean we don't have the same qualities, but we're all different because we've all evolved over the year You are your memories. Think about it like that. Yeah, you are your memories And 2014 Gamora has four years of missing memories Yeah, you can't understate that shit and getting like if you guys were just teleported to 10 years from now And there's these five guys who are like we're best friends. We had a band. We made like a whole tv show You should be like, uh, yeah, that's great. Um But I didn't do that. I don't know who the fuck you guys are And you know they go, well, you'll watch this movie Do you just watch a documentary if you do all the stuff with them? You're like, yeah, that's not me some other guy I mean, it's even like right now if we all watch like baby videos of us It's like, oh, look, that's me as a baby. Do we remember that? Probably not because we're a freaking baby I can't believe people are trying to argue against this point. Like I don't know what to tell you Well, this is already foregone Like the point I was trying to make was I hate the fact that they've killed these characters And they're just resetting them back to where they were Yep, no stakes. The only person who stayed dead was Heimdall. We're not even sure that's the case And wow, yeah, maybe they'll get interstellable. Yeah, vision confirmed for us that no one's ever really gone. No one's ever really gone. No It's awful guys Do you guys like the line from Loki? I am smart Yeah, this is what you love to hear from characters you do think are intelligent It's like Loki may as well have said to Owen Wilson. I have I surpassed you intellectually I understand that reference It's uh, it's a pure cringe. Um And yeah, I guess the the uh, the Stinger is that there's a there's a rogue variant person who is also Loki It's a it's a multi-verse Loki who's fucking things up. Lady Loki. How much she shows him up She'll probably beat his ass in every episode until the end when something happens and they become friends and Go and fight the ultimate. Yeah, whatever terrible thing she does They're gonna be justified. It's gonna be totally okay Um, she's gonna be proven right all along Um, you know how it goes y'all seriously y'all forget that Loki is the god of mischief Why are you assuming everything he said was honest and sincere? You didn't watch the episode did you watch? Yeah, did you watch the episode? I don't think so. Um, it's funny a lot of stuff we've referenced Yeah, I was gonna say a lot of stuff we've references and even when other people are in the room so I don't even know like what what are we dealing with here like Yeah, is he acting for nobody? No, he's trying to he's he's gone so meta as the god of mischief He's trying to trick himself. He knows that he's in the tv show. Yeah Serious. Oh, by the way, like I gotta say it's becoming pretty transparent Like what the marvel formula is teases constantly to make sure that you come back for the next thing and the next thing And the next thing there's always a tease you never get all of your answers Except in the ways that you didn't want like in terms of character and stuff There'll be teases of oh devil. Oh, is that Mephisto? Oh, there's lady low key there in the little hood I don't know about you guys chat But can we skip the arc of you saying that it's a good show and then you're saying okay, it is kind of bad Can we get to the latter heart? I don't want to do it again Because I'm bored of having to do it every single time. This is like this one. It's already bad. It's really bad It wasn't low key. That was some lame guy. Oh, that was a clone He was a long or a call Bizarro low key. I am a call and I am evil So disappointing From where like this all started. This could have been so good Instead it's this Falcon and the winter soldier made me angry and now I just I feel empty. I'm pretty despondent. Yeah Definitely an apathy for me. I just expected that this is the fate of the MCU and it's gone and it's over and Like that's why I started off with the Owen thing. I'm like, well That was fun while it lasted but it's it's gone now. It's it's it is actually dead This is why it's a one out of 10. This is it's crisis on incident earth levels of nonsense If they have like nothing matters anymore, you know, oh, will will tom holland spider-man be able to defeat You know, ramy green goblin. I don't know. I guess I have to ask the lizard people if they're okay with it Um Lady look is a thing in the comics. I know that I'm not do you know? So what I was saying is a thing in the real lore So, yeah So what I'm saying is that the issue that I see with what's happening with the MCU now And it's especially clear with the shows is it's all about teasing you It's all about what's next rather than what's here right now They will expeditiously Go through all of the character development that the meaningful stuff, but they'll always be teasing you There's always something around the corner. The story's never over. There's always something coming up Because of the end, you know every episode of wonder vision They were like teasers and people went off the rails with their rumors and a tap and would like spider-man That's probably gonna be out the ending. Oh Yeah, oh Mephisto. Oh, who's that in the shadows? Oh, that's probably Lady Loki because you can pull from all this comic material It could be so many things from the comics So it's easy to just get at to be the machine that keeps things going Because people will never be satisfied because you never wrap things up You just always tease so that people keep coming back and they do it in the movies now as well Perpetually chasing the dragon and they're not even looking at the current payoffs And right now we need somebody to turn it off for the audience who are randy to say no No, I said turn it back on Like you just need to have that moment to see how far we will fall Our job is the south park fucking reference to red dragon where we we show a screenshot from the show and go do you see? This is a problem. Do you see? This doesn't make sense. Do you see? Look look at the things I've seen Basically, you see the desk filled with infinity stones. Do you see? People's acknowledge that you see it. Oh, but it's funny though Even though none of us laughed at anything We never laughed a single time during the scene during the episode. We didn't laugh. I didn't even crack a smile To be fair, I mean if I did it was like someone in a straight jacket in a padded room with smile maybe Not an actual smile dude. The second they said they detected a time Anomaly and brought him back. I was already like my brain was racing. I was like this has destroyed everything already, hasn't it? Yeah Yep What exactly like how are time anomalies detected? Did the lizard people put their brains inside machines to tell you when they think that something is happening that they think shouldn't happen? And in which case that means they know that everything's already happened. So how do even anomalies happen? Why don't they do it? I don't understand how they could Ask questions just consume because of reasons Because every I mean it's exactly that because yeah every time that you ask a question They lampshade you and then just move on like lol. It's kind of funny. Huh lizards anyway. Yeah They're going to destroy everything about the cinematic universe that they've crafted and they're going to do it as a joke Yeah And they don't even recognize what they're doing From what we gather from like that last bit It seemed to me that say for example, you're just a time traveler in the year 3000 Just having a fuck around you go You know, I'm gonna go back in time and kill Hitler and you go back in time That creates an anomaly and then they get teleported to you and try to stop you and then melt you I guess It's like, but how does that make sense? How wouldn't that have always been something that happened? They are scanning from loads of different timelines I just don't get how is there linearity for them? That's my question Yeah, I don't understand how that could work at all Yeah, it's like, oh no that guy from the year already mapped out Wouldn't they know when everything is happening so that way they can just fix it immediately It's like that guy from the year 3000 just went back 2000 years or something And it's like wait, but that guy just went back from the year 1000 to 500 And it's like that guy went from 50,000 to 45,000 It's like so which one do we deal with first and which one came to us first? It's weird what anomalies that they allow because they allow him to have a bomb on a plane But then they don't allow him to appear Randomly in the goby desert with the test Gamora is allowed Nebula from 2014 is allowed. Thanos is allowed. His whole army is allowed. They don't do anything about it They talk about the timelines fighting each other We have timelines now with people from different timelines having been put in existing in one timeline And remember what they said the longer those people exist the longer The more likely it is that the timelines will continue to converge and break So like the 2014 that Thanos came from is broken that timeline is broken And you can't fix it By unless you kill Gamora, but they won't And now they don't even see how that would fix it like the issue would still exist You would need to recreate Thanos in that timeline, but then it's like what happens. Does that timeline merge? I don't see how it could the events have clearly been changed It it doesn't work. It can't function. It's it's completely and utterly broken It's in the chat. How are we being hyperbolic? Did you not watch the episode? I Yeah, that there's a reason why we're giving us a 1 out of 10 It can't get lower than this if it was lower than this it wouldn't be a I don't see how it would be what it is a story Yeah, I feel like we have to remind people every time like this isn't about how much we enjoyed it That's not the point. No, we didn't we didn't which we did. Yeah, I didn't enjoy it But like there are aspects of a bit of need I mean If you're gonna get on nitpicking we haven't even starred if you really want a nitpick It's like, okay. Why does the time place look like a dmv? Why is there one random guy complaining that just gets vaporized the time lizards one of it look like? I know it's like why Fans of the 1960s human american earth. Yeah, I guess they knew that the 1960s earth would be like a thing From when they created the tv You know out of all of the different places you could make. Why would you make one that you didn't need a green screen for? Again, hmm. I wonder why If they have infinite like resources, they shouldn't even be like I don't even I'm starting to question whether or not they should even be human humanoid Why would they make them humanoid? Yeah, why wouldn't they just be giant like bowls that can just fly anywhere and do anything? Yeah, like we can't even comprehend their control of time and space like we would just be like what is this they had um Short person they had a robot. They had a waman of color And also that that's such a minor percentage a short person is all negatives though in terms of like utility based Well, everyone's gotta have a job right checklist that they have to make so uh in hollywood. It's a good At the club. Well, like I just don't get how the majority of people just you know the standard of like 60s american like why Why are they all american? Why why are they human beings was my first question? But even if they were human beings, why are they all from like the united states? one country Because we're great We're so great the time losers are like, you know what? This is it. I like you guys and also I reminded me of something. I just forgot about briefly, but um, they mentioned that a time Like the timebearance authority mentioned I think in the last scene when they go to lady Loki Like they mentioned a time machine and it's like, oh, is it common that people just create time machines because as far as I understood Yes, didn't you watch napoleon dynamite with the crystals? I did it's very common to buy uh time machines on ebay Well, that time machine was okay. The lizard said that that time machine was fine But I guess she did something with a time machine the lizards didn't approve of If you're late for work, they killed you i'm still not over that Yeah, you get yeah, you just get some they execute you Because here's my question if you're late for work, why would that create a deviation in the timeline? Why would that not just be what happened? i'm writing that down from my notes Yeah, there's some people in chat who are like, are you seriously suggesting this is worse than batwoman? I'm like guys batwoman doesn't fuck with time and space typically I'd say batwoman is at least like funny at how bad it is this it's like They really try to push jokes and it just falls flat like there was nothing really entertaining about this episode We have because they made a joke about destroying the mcu and like i'm not okay with that And if you are then Fuck off Why do they get to do it? Why do they get these projects stuff fair? Never been fair. Well, this is that tweet j made earlier. That was really good. This is it's like he has incredible predictive power yeah yep Um, but for reference in terms of the the team the the the writer of this show wrote the but the Toiler episode in rick and morty season four and he is writing uh, dr. Strange 2 so God and uh, this show is over. He'll probably get a giant massive multi Fucking tv show deal with disney as well Yeah, because you'll be sat now these all these things will make great money It happened for each of them the writer for wonder vision got a big like two tv show development deal the guy who wrote Uh, falcon and winter soldier is writing captain america 4 and this guy's already written dr. Strange And he'll get like multiple seasons of this show because it's already been renewed for season two And probably a bunch of other projects too and it will keep happening for all of the other ones as well Because they can't fail it's too big to fail. It's because the the real lizard people in the real world That's the real lizard people They would allow them to not make money. They'll be variants otherwise Jesus It's all it's it's ruined It's all ruined and the people who ruined it are gonna get big bonuses and all the shows that they could ever ask for And it doesn't matter because people clap like seals at this shit and they eat it up and they say Oh, look, there's a funny cartoon and that's okay. Even if it just destroys fucking everything about the universe. It's fine They just want to do their own thing. That's what's happened. The creators want to do their own thing and then you got people Certain people who just think that's good intrinsically that you can do whatever you want in a universe that you didn't create That needs to exist in tandem with other people's work I'm sorry. You don't get to do whatever you want if you want to do whatever you want You don't get to make shows in the marvel cinematic universe You make your own show. It's just a fundamental contradiction. You want to use what they created Right, and I'm I'm not even referring to the motivation as a writer I'm talking about like their stories like Loki. Who's that? It's like, well, if you watch the other movies, you'll know all that reference to all of his history and all of his It's like you can't use all of that and then also piss on all of it. Like, yeah, it doesn't make sense You gotta pick one Do something new or work with the material that's already there And I don't I don't think that there was enough value in hey, look that sets really cool Um, no, there is not so much value in that that I'm willing to compromise on the entire fucking thing like the whole mcu Just for something that looks kind of neat But I feel like that's that is the modus operandi going forward in terms of like marvel content is Oh, hey, see black widow. It's like, oh, that's like winter soldier. You guys like that, right espionage Oh far, you know, and an old but like shang chi that's like jack can maybe oh you like that Eternals, it's like, oh, they saw the natural location. Wow. It's like, oh, this kind of indie Oh, wow, they went to a beach It's like a horror movie. Oh, and that neat Thor What they could do with thought it's like an 80s movie. Isn't that neat and it's like that's that's the shtick You have the money to really Do a specific niche thing well visually Like and and then you get points for that like as if there's anything particularly special about Doing the sick. I mean like the game controlled it that like six is aesthetic except from what I understand It was purposeful, but that doesn't earn you points all the earned you points was doing it not that it was purposeful or meaningful It's really frustrating. It's so hollow and cheap Do you expect anything less from disney now? They're creatively bankrupt. They literally have this mountain of source material that they could Be making an unlimited amount of shows from that actually does have you know thought out plots Characters and do they utilize any of it? Not really they take the flashy stuff, but then they don't even focus on writing it And then they get inexperienced people to write their tv shows I mean this whole you would think if your entire show revolves around stuff with a timeline You would go and do research on to making sure that there is no plot holes For this so that way it actually works and there's an intelligent point to be made with the story you're trying to tell Do they do that? Well, I guess that's that's that's the weird thing isn't it is this is your life Like you spend a year of your life on this, but it feels like you didn't talk you didn't have these conversations I guess I don't understand I feel like they're just told to make it like just just make it and make it look I mean you're right You are right about that like none of these shows start with an original pitch The the process for these projects is oh We want dr. Strange to get on it like that's that's what it is. Oh, we want a Loki show get on it There isn't a process of hey So why don't we get some people in and they can tell us what their ideas are and whichever one's the coolest The most interesting we'll run with that the project comes before the idea for the story That's not a good reliable way to tell stories. I think it's just The ones that we got seemingly were flukes. I don't know it feels that well the mc was better than this though It was better than this like You know, I prefer iron man three like can we please just go back to that Dude, I never thought it'd be the position of can we please go back to just assassinating characters? yeah Instead of doing that and destroying the world too. Just well destroying the entire continuity cosmos Everything that ever was and ever will be in that is it's all fucked Yep, this is a nightmare realm the mcu has turned into a nightmare realm I mean, there's literally no consequences for anything somebody dies. Oh, guess what we're gonna bring them back Well, it's gonna take away from the impact of their death Oh, we fucked up with the timeline. Okay. Well, we're just gonna go through this door and redo the timeline Oh, we don't like you so you're not okay. Oh, it's totally fine for tony and steve to go fuck with the timeline All they want but nope not for you because we don't like you because you're the bad guy Well, yeah picture um The and i'm not referencing this to for any other reason that i'm just the first thing that came to my head Right, so the winter soldier and cap knife fight if at any point winter soldier buried that knife into cap skull They'd have to pull him out of the timeline and be like you're a variant motherfucker. You just cheated That's not what's supposed to happen. Bye. Bye and then melt him and you're just like And they reset it and they try it again like how can I ever be invested in any of this? It's only happening because the lizard people approved of it Why did you do this? Why Didn't have to do this no one you didn't have to do this but you did Yeah Yeah, well, don't be late to work Yeah, don't be like to work or we'll melt you Because like it all comes down you want to get a fight because they would know that that guy is going to be late to work I should know any sense and that guy would be able to know because he's in the the time Whatever the fuck they're called and so he can see that he's going to be late for work tomorrow They can see into the past present and future They know everything they're all knowing they already know that they're going to get low key They know what Loki's going to do. So all of this doesn't make any How was it even possible for there to be a variation in the timeline if you know everything that's going to happen And there's got to be an origin point, right? Like why did it why did it vary and you go um because unless they were about to make a point about like well You know free will sometimes breaks out and sometimes people actually manage to make a choice A meeting but like I hope they don't go that direction because holy fuck that just ruins everything but that again Man who's late to work. Why was he late to work? He slept in why did he sleep in it's like His alarm didn't go off. Why didn't his alarm go off? Like there has to be like what happened in your timeline and they fixed the alarm clock That's what I'm saying. It's like they have to be a something would have to change from how it's supposed to go so what changed and I don't know that they have an answer for that because it's like we brought this up before but like they're like Loki you fucked up by picking up that space stone. It's like how that was a tool in in my timeline There was no reason there wasn't any warning. There wasn't any sense that like picking this up is against it's a crime like what the fuck And why if we're talking about continuity It's like who put that that stone in front of him when it wasn't supposed to happen. It's like, oh, yeah, tony stark But you're telling me him or well, you're not gonna kill him I guess you're so that's supposed to happen, but he wasn't supposed to grab it So the problem lies with loki specifically making that choice. Yeah Which means people people choosing things is the problem But why wouldn't loki pick it up loki was just supposed to not pick it up Putting a big juicy steak in front of a starving dog and then punishing the dog for eating it Which is seriously a problem Like you're telling me that whenever they go off script Making a choice like an actual choice because that's something that they wanted to do rather than what they were told to do Or coerced to do it some way That's when you reset them Again every single choice variance authority murdered every single choice that's ever been made in this entire universe. It was always a script It was on a script like if ever they ever did anything else they would have been killed like this is fucking crazy I don't know why they wrote this like why have you done this? Yeah, you may should think how many people the tba have murdered like this is like the ultimate power creep Yeah, that's what loki said. He's like the infinity stones are pointless the tesseract is pointless This is the ultimate power that was I feel like the only intelligent line that was stated in the show He was the tba or authoritarians Like on the grand scale Yep, they're the ultimate space God they're so evil people How is it so hard to write people who aren't monsters? So one said that's probably the point of the show that the t Tva villains and it's like that doesn't save the problem. It's already been done Even if we killed them by the end from our last level show Good luck actually having the show writers addressing who is and isn't the villain. So first of all I'm pretty sure bolson is going to be the good guy But it could could too. Are they trying to twist it? But it wouldn't matter if by the last episode loki dismantles the entire organization kills the three spacelesses and releases everyone into free will It wouldn't matter because every film up to this point means it was on a script The damage is done that problem. Yeah No, no, no captain america. He chose to save bucky. He saw the goodness if he hadn't chosen to do bucky He would have say would have been killed. Yeah, he would have been he would have been executed by the tva They would have done a time reset and they would have given it another shot and it would have carried on like it quote unquote should have gone and yeah, like I do wonder what that looks like if captain america decapitated steve or something. Do they just go back and how do how do you fix that? How do you fix that? Yeah, because i'm expecting like they meet one of the spacelesses at one point and he's like this wise thing That's like, you know what sometimes people really do make meaning for all that this whole time it all is meaningful decisions We've only actually been correcting when there's fuck ups Like to try and actually recover this in some way Do you really think they're gonna like spend some other budget on that? Uh Well, they got a lot of money I was probably a cg spaceless. Yeah. I'm sorry. I genuinely feel like that at this point You can't buy good writing because like it just going strictly by who makes money. It's not going to tell you fuck all at this point Writing is so And I think the problem is that we just we don't it is not treated Like a craft in the same way that other more obvious things are like art or um painting or music. Yeah Well, because you can dress it up, right? Like if there was no visuals if it was just the script being read in a robotic voice So that you can only appreciate the events and the ideas people probably wouldn't fucking like it at all But uh, you get all the actors all of the soundtrack all the wonderful aesthetics like yeah This is awesome. Actually I mean, that's what Wanda vision was. It was almost like matter about it Some moment of silence for the mc If no one's gonna bring up the previous of captain america to capitated steve. Oh Capitates tony then he gets melded and I guess they put a little flume thing on the ground and then it resets to the fight And if he makes the same, I don't see why resetting it would mean that the right thing is another problem What exactly do they do because that means they would have identified what went wrong in this scenario So for example, the alarm clock really didn't set and that guy didn't wake up. They go back and change it I'm then sitting there like wait, but why did it change in the first place? Yeah, who did that? What did that? What causes the anomalies you and you know, someone might be like you haven't seen more than episode one yet And I'm like, yeah, because I already know whatever answer they give is going to cause problems Yep, and that's if we're lucky enough to have an answer I don't think we're getting any more matter that we've only seen one episode It's like you're baking something and you grab the salt instead of sugar. It's like well, yeah You added salt instead of sugar your muffins aren't gonna taste very good They fucked it up from the very beginning and I there's no going back from this Well, I think the easiest one because it's on my mind end game without Loki is still screwed It's just more screwed now It's more screwed but it was it was still bad before this the time travel anyway You know supposed to be bad that makes it better, right? Oh, yeah How do you recover from this because if we watch any movie now they haven't seen this any good You just have that in the back of your head. We're like, oh man, the cba made it this way. Nothing else could have happened though Yeah, there are no stakes. Whatever was gonna happen was gonna happen It really does we're not being hyperbolic this ruins like everything It does. It's it's done. It's over Wonderbroke reality. This breaks fucking everything Yeah, but we're gonna be told it looks cool guys Yeah, it looks cool. I had money. Well, you know what? There's no such thing as a contrivance anymore because the tva set it up Oh, yeah, that's true. So that takes care of that Yeah, we knocked out every contrivance in every mcu movie. So is that yeah I like the idea that it's like as soon enough we'll have the eternals being inexplicable too It's like these guys will trump whatever the eternals problems are. I don't yeah I thought eternals was gonna be the one that was like gonna make no sense in terms of world building, but Goddamn surprise me And in one episode Yeah in 10 in 10 like minutes. We're already done Imagine all those points in the winter soldier when bucky could have just pulled out the gun He had and shot captain america, which was the obvious That's what would have happened. They would have melted him if bucky reset the area that he just forgets he has the gun They're like, yes, that was what you're supposed to do So you see there are no flaws in the mcu because every time the characters make an incredibly stupid decision It's because the tba went back in time and reset it enough times that it just didn't happen anymore The characters no longer made the incorrect decisions If there's one in a trillion chance that bucky just forgets he has a gun for whatever reason It was the one they did it the trillion times until they got it right. I guess Dude, do I It gets so much worse the more you think about it I feel like I doubt that they're smart enough to do it. Maybe this was their excuse for this is why they didn't do that This is this, you know solves all your plothole problems guys. I doubt it. I doubt it They're not smart enough to do it, but if they didn't use that as an excuse I'm fucking Chad who made this show. So yeah, I actually fixed everything There's somebody out there that thinks that found Who's been messing up the only way you can save this show The only way you can save this show is in the last episode the last 10 minutes or whatever It's revealed the doc strange actually captured Loki and he put him into some crazy like mind prison to get information out of them That wouldn't fix god damn that would fix it Like it would we have to make this show go away This show needs to not happen. Yes, essentially how you fix it. It needs to not exist. There is no tweaking. It can't happen Decanonize it immediately I got wait the tv doesn't take size at all bullfucking shit when Loki makes a completely valid point as to it's not You know fair that oh Iron man captain america hulk Thor all of the fucking adventures are allowed to fuck with the timeline But he picks up one thing that just comes to his feet Which is a completely in character thing for him to do that's wrong bullfucking shit. They're not picking sides Bullshit go watch the episode again It's supposed to just not pick it up even though it's the tensor act right next to him and he's Loki You knew he would do that because you knew to come pick him up and so who's at fault it's tony and ant man Yes, because they screwed it up. Yeah, but they were meant to screw it up. That was always meant to happen That's what I don't get. They're like, we knew they were gonna do that and that's totally chill But what we didn't want was for them to do that thing that led to you picking that up It's like how could that be something that surprised you? Also, and it's not Loki's fault. They did that. It's still their fault. You haven't you've just kicked the can down the road Because remember they they arrive in um the goby desert like oh, there's an anomaly around here It's like they didn't even know this was Do you understand what I mean when they're like they would be monitoring the avengers doing all their shit and being like Yep, this is all fine. And then they would be watching it kind of like we were with Tony doing a lot of shit They would see Loki pick up the cube and be like, oh This is off-script wouldn't it alert from that very moment when they have technology to be like, yeah He was not supposed to pick that up anomaly You know what this kind of reminds me of did you guys watch the Pixar movie inside out? Yeah No, okay Well like with the the emotions and they're all watching the screen of like the little girl's life and you can go back and pick Any memory you just don't have the future. It's kind of like that where they would be sitting there They've been monitoring everything that's ever going on that ever will go on or that ever has gone on And they would be able to find points in time that they needed to correct if there was anything that went wrong that kind of glitched Yeah, but these people are completely incompetent. Why the fuck are any of these idiots working for this company? Do they have really good like superannuation like what's do they have really good union pay? What level Why are they even there? Who are they? Why are they all human? Nothing makes sense They were created this is that so it is literally the rick and morty. What do you what's my purpose? You pass butter except as you fix timelines Remember there's an implication that Owen Wilson's like not that competent and should be punished for his mistake with Loki And then he's like, well you were the one who ruined it. I'm just sitting like, how is this even possible? Why wouldn't everything just be done perfectly? I don't understand. How can you make mistakes if you know everything that's gonna happen? You know scripts It's someone said like come on ifap. It's not as preachy as falcon the winter soldier. I don't care about it I don't care. Excuse me. That's why this doesn't make me angry and make me depressed is a Waman that comes to beat the shit out of him and drag him to this tv a and then what's the next thing? Oh, it's a waman speaking down to him and Yes, he makes a valid point and then she's like no reasons And then Owen Wilson making the very obvious comment about her being above him and he's like, oh, yeah I kind of like it. It's like really Give me a fucking break. I see right through that shit I just I don't care like it was preachy or not like it sucks It's like I don't understand like the core thing for ifap is is is causing effect. They broke reality guys Like it's the core tenant You can't do that If it's not preachy, then you're cool with it. Yes, we have one request. Don't don't break the foundations of reality Let's like a good start in point I This is it's such a great example of how do you retroactively like ruin Dozens of movies that were made over What 16 15 years or whatever? Well, it's been about 10 years now. Yeah He's like more than that. You did it. I don't know how he is like the fucking mad lads did it You have a james gondon an episode of a show James gond joss weed and john fava or the ropster Like in the respective, you know sets when they're making their movies and you're like Man, isn't it crazy to think that all these characters are doing all these things because they were forced to in a sense by the tva space They just look at you like um What? What? And you're like, oh Forget I said anything. It's fine. They're about don't worry. That's we're not what i'm gonna have to turn you into It's too soon. I'm gonna turn you into juice. All right And yeah, a lot of the things we've highlighted as evidence of destroying everything they're done for memes Like they want to have you laugh at these things Yeah Kind of insane I think i saw someone say they're mad. It's like, yeah. Well, you know what? I don't think i'm mad anymore because I don't think it's good for my mental health at this point I was mad at falcon the winter soldier that made me mad that made me upset Ragged the winter soldier was quite mad and this is more just like this show is just depressing But not because the show itself is depressing even though it is it's like it's meta depressing what it represents This is how things are now All right, like dr. Strange just kind of exhausting like aren't you guys tired of Just turning us on and just sitting there and watching this shit and you know utilizing your brain and being like Oh, well, they could have done this. Oh, nope. Nope. They're gonna go that way. Oh really you guys picked it. Oh, okay All right. All right. So this is where we are now every once in a while. You get something that's good It's like, yeah, like what? father Okay, well that's That's not very healthy That's not marvel Well marv is that they're all time low now This is officially it already was but this is officially the all-time low. It is nothing that they got worked. Yeah. Yeah Um, which means, you know, it's always darkest before the dawn, right? That's what the people say Is the thing with feathers or sun or whatever the fuck the line was I don't know you just look to the future and it's like, what are you optimistic for? It's like spider-man is concerns me. Um, I guess I air about that the most but I'm concerned Doctor strange. I no longer have any confidence in because it's the same build off this shit And it built. Yeah, it builds off this so that it's gone. Uh, Thor could be cool Um, could be cool is the best we have to say about anything. Yeah, and um, as for what else we've got like, I don't know Um Miss marvel Yeah, um I guess with guardians three is probably the thing I'm most Yeah, it's definitely guardians three for me Definitely guardians three, which is a shame because I know that whatever those characters do Well, it's the end probably it seems like james gunn's just gonna go back to dc after that like that. He's just You know, like I can't believe I'm looking to the dc as hope now. Well, yeah, because that man could be cool Suicide squad. Yeah. Yeah, the suicide squad. I'm looking forwards to the suicide squad. That trailer was great I I really want to I want to watch that show and enjoy it and I hopefully don't have to worry about the cosmos breaking We are yeah, I guess we're we're beyond that phase of the dc So the snyder versus better than this. Well, yeah, they didn't Never fucked with time and space yet. So I know that's how bad it's got. Well, we got well We got flash. I guess flash and snyder come back. Yes But that's that's non-canon, right? That's true. That is non-canon. Yeah, just hopefully when they give him that power It's a little bit more restricted flash point. That could be Wait, the snyder cut isn't canon as far as I know. I'm pretty sure it's not canon. Yeah It should be fired out of a canon. How could it be canon? There's there's a lot of references in that movie that don't like the aquaman stuff with mera and the parents It's like this is an impossibility. So Yeah, and a lot of stuff. I guess we'll see but yeah Is it worse than managed steel? Yes. This is a one out of 10. It's one out of 10 This is probably the worst So, yeah, just to clarify for chat like I don't know why we have to clarify this, but I guess we will So we rarely ever give a one It's a very special rating only one other thing is work two other things the one division finale and crisis The one division finale when we teacher in between one and two, we weren't sure I think we were well, I you know what I feel like we need to make that not a one You know Yeah, because this is like a mecha one Yeah, yeah, that's gotta be a two because at least it's it's fuckery is localized Yeah To a certain extent maybe that needs to be the determinant of it where like crisis on infinite earth and low key It applies to the entire cosmos Yeah, breaks the universe All the universe like yeah, because I guess there aren't multiple universes anymore No, there's only one because I guess This thing people in chat stop asking it's not it's it's worse than batwoman. It is Yes, batwoman is better written that woman fucks with characters plot lots of little impossibilities here and there It never fucks with space and time of obviously excluding crisis and infinite crisis. Yeah So I only watched a little bit of batwoman, but any time she was asked a question I know right any time she was asked a question about herself She was able to answer it right and she probably had a really snarky comeback. Oh, yeah I mean, it's really really bad. It's it's really women's are Are two three but at least when the character was asked questions specifically about herself She knew the answer right not where Loki is getting lectured about who the god of mischief Mischief is by Owen Wilson any sitting there flabbergasted at Owen Wilson just lecturing him about his life It's like are you kidding me the real Loki would sit back smug smile and be like, yeah, bitch I fucking did that you want to hear about some other shit that I did. Yeah, that was fun You you're kind of right because like batwoman doesn't really have characters to assassinate Um, whereas like Loki did it was Loki That's the one I just said in chat So if the rat never crawled across the the quantum machine, I guess they would have showed up and vaporized it for not making the right choice I Put the rat in shackles and they bring it today. It's gotta take enough You made the wrong choice rat Are these all the squeaks you ever squeaked? Sign here It's gonna make the Loki's Oh, this is making the endgame script just ballooned. Like I don't know what to do with this I didn't think it would be like this Make it a preamble and say okay before we talk about in-game recent events have occurred beyond my power Yeah, really it's not my fault. It's not my fault, but we're just gonna have to Here Does the tva monitor the quantum realm? I guess they do they must do Yeah, what if ant man went to the quantum realm and he did something he wasn't supposed to do Do they have to shrink themselves down or did it just step on them and reset it? It doesn't fucking work. It doesn't work. Stop it Oh, I think all I can do for this is just have a preface of oh, I'm like ignoring loki. I'm sorry. I can't Like it doesn't make sense. You can't possibly Keep watching it probably At this point it's it's like it's practically our responsibility to stay abreast of like what the fuck the mcu is doing right now Kind of the same for the dcu as well um And you know because I'd watch any new star wars stuff that comes out as well There are things I've got it. I can talk about it. We've got a history for it And we can obviously talk about writing as a result. We can be like so Let's talk about time travel and space travel and fucking time car Because I was about to say like with everything that we're finding out You know how maybe uh falcon the wood soldier you could use like an analogy of oh It's like a house, but the walls are falling apart. It's all rotten, but you know, you can get really descriptive with um with loki, it's just like You know you you set simulation. I haven't described to you what you're about to see you're expecting to see like a house It's barely standing, but it's just it's just shit like a little puddle of shit and it's like oh Like this isn't a structure and I'm like I know I there's just nothing it's there's no baseline. It's What do you propose we do with this? It's like I don't know that's why I hide you it's like but I don't I don't even understand what this is It's like, yeah, that's why we hide you I don't you're not you're not clarifying That's your job And you know for the record once again Y'all might enjoy it in fact some of you clearly already did it's like you go have fun Not my kind of storytelling with I can't watch fucking stories with no stakes. It's like what the hell's the point Honestly, it's kind of like the equivalent of watching teletubbies if you don't care and you just look at it It's like all right. There's something going on Teletubbies is fucking leagues ahead of this I know I'm trying to be I feel like teletubbies would handle time travel better Well, they did They probably had one and it was probably like it made no more sense Yeah, just a little bit. It's like It's been like a year or two since I watched it with my nephew, but something about like a year or two Yeah Yeah, well I a little there's like babies in my family Oh And so it's like if you want to spend time with the kids you got to do what they want to do, you know, yeah I know all about yeah the little bunch of you the jet plane and Caillou that little there's um This is one show with like a little bird that goes in tunnels at the that irish dude narrates who's It's very soothing, but I don't know little kids are fascinated with it Maybe babies would like low-key I don't think they would maybe they'd find it really hard to understand what's going on Babies just like this fucking shit. I don't know what's going on. Yeah Turn on yeah, fuck this shit turn it back on to blues clues that that should have structure Luke's clues probably does have this close woke now Oh What what is what is blues clues that's work main? What does that look like? You trust me. You don't want to know On the bright side Loki's only gonna have another whole set of episodes in another season It's not like they'll and another season and probably another one after that. It'll only get better, right? I can't see how it could get worse Yeah, um, I guess So just just wait until they bio shock infinite us and they start going back in time to different movies and fucking with things Do you guys think that this might be a way for them to bring back characters that died that Maybe were actors that claimed I don't want to do the mcu anymore. And then this is kind of their Oh, yeah, um Robert tony jr. Said he wanted to come back. This is it's not even a question now. It's easy Yeah, that's by the way You say they they've got them they've got a billion ways because nothing matters anymore No, he asked for it. I should up on the spot. They just invented the most powerful omniscient Incredible insane godlike organization that ever existed and turns out they were here the whole time and they just They just created them for the show. So and in a very lazy fashion We don't get an explanation of how or why they want whatever they just said everything you've seen so far That's what we wanted like right Well, imagine if the black widow movie does well and scar joe is like, yeah, I'm totally down to keep playing this character Okay Next season low key always got to do is go back in time and get her and open a doorway saying Hey, you didn't really have to die and now this is a way for hawk eye to still get the stone and for us to save you At the same time. Oh, yeah, you'll just grab one from the drawer, right? Yeah, there you go toss it over down Gosh, I there's no repercussions for anything. There's no stakes. Nobody is I nobody's ever really gone It's a stupid Can't believe Hate it Let's still have hate for lowkey more. So just have hate in a general sense right now. Just like yeah He fuckers I really liked lowkey And yeah, this is what it's like what he's reduced to it's like come on lowkey was actually a fucking character And now he's literally just a plot device that moves from room to room so people can talk at him and tell you the plot Yeah, he's thrown about They're gonna need low key. You see I need him for their mission I don't know why So you have this thing we are like an anomaly go back in time check it out all of our men died It's like okay. We'll just travel to five minutes before that and save them and also stop whatever happened They die, you're like, okay a day before then I guess we'll have to set up a whole bunch of shit Like there's just how do you how do you win against the time cops? How? They could just look into the future and see who the bad guy is where their layer is Everything about them and then just open a doorway to their fucking layer and then just annihilate them instantly Yeah, with this why do they need lowkey's help to find this character? Why don't they have guns and why would lowkey help them? Why don't they have guns? Why? These guns are bad No guns a superhero tv show So no superpowers either you have some kind of Weapons that destroy people instantly, but you know Yeah, cuz like they won't be able to appeal to more lives saved as their fundamental, you know goal the tv a I mean So many things have happened in the emcee that just don't match that idea Um Yeah, like every just what all your veggies were like we're gonna do this about the time travel stuff the tv a will watch them Like yep, that's the thing. He's supposed to do They can't even watch them. They turn up to the anomalies with like no clue of what's going on, but they also Know when things go off script And they have a script I guess I would expect them to be all-knowing beings if they have access to the past present and future Instead, they're just idiots that know they have to show up and do the thing Don't get it Who approved this like do they not have people that read their scripts beforehand and say Hey, this doesn't really make sense. Hey, what about this? Hey, what about this? They're just like yes, just film it. Just shoot it do it. Nobody's gonna ask questions They made all these tv shows at similar times probably and they all just didn't give a fuck It's clear they didn't give a fuck it makes you wonder when when When captain america was was resetting all the stones or whatever bullshit he was doing at the end of in-game I guess that was the plan too. You know, you just yeah We know it is Still a guy like they're gonna be villains. The tv will be the problem persists regardless of whether they're the good guy They're not the good guys by the way They're not. Yeah, they're not the good guys. Well, they're the same kind of good guy that wonder is Kind of good guy that makes yeah, well, we'll never know how much the tv is sacrificed. Yeah, that's true. Yeah God such a You know, none of them have morals either because they've just sat back and watched what trillions of people die When then I just snapped everyone all of the I don't know mass murders that happened. They they all just sit back and because if they don't care about stuff like that Like like because they have a greater goal. I'd be like, what is this greater goal exactly that you don't give a fuck about that happening You could make a You could make a video Of all of the quote unquote decisions that were made by characters throughout the mcu Insight like friends and someone in chat said friendly reminder that if tony decided he would rather stay with his family And then go on a suicide mission the tv a would have melted him. Yep oh And just do that for every decision that made along the mc mcu was like with this if tony would have given up on Bucky he would have gotten melted and he'd have to restart. Yeah, I can't write this I can't write this script with reference to Loki I can't I can't You gotta just get it out of the way at the beginning you gotta say All of this is not considering Loki why would I even because I can't consider what breaks everything Yeah, it just doesn't work because every time it's every time I have to say well I guess if tony had made a different choice, he would have been melted Or I guess if cap had done this he would have been melted. It was all part of the plan That's a good. That's a good point. Ymir and chat. He said like Thor He needed to be really fat and in game. Yeah, otherwise you would have been melting if Thor would have worked out Yeah, if Thor would have worked out and not played fortnite, he would have gotten melted Yeah He's like Like legal legends and then they tear it up like no adult legal legends you fuck. Yeah. Well, I mean fat thaws like just doesn't I don't see how it makes sense in metabolism, but like oh shit Remember and the end of infinity war when thanos has the axe in him and he's like you should have gone for the head He's like, no, you shouldn't know. No, you shouldn't have you had gotten melted It's Oh, this is so stupid. That was the time variance authority is so powerful that they can presumably melt loki Which means I guess they could melt thanos and galactus whenever he shows up What if thanos just decided all of a sudden? Hey, maybe I should just I don't know double the resources instead of killing half the population They would have climbed in and melted him, right? I guess so If in the first iron man, tony had saved his captive friend instead of him dying, he would have gotten melted for it Yeah, if rodie had been caught by tony, they both would have been melted when he was falling If vision would have missed being rodie in civil war, then Yeah, if uh, if if uncle ben lived he would have been melted if If if he didn't give the glosses to becky would have been melted and I would have made him give them to him Uncle ben just has to die He survives the gunshot He's rolling. Oh, he's dead anyway. And they just like you know what just keep it. He's dead. It's fun. Had bucky had had Had cap caught bucky before he fell off the train. They wouldn't melt in both of them. You guys made him do it again So I'll come on. We all know the mc forgot uncle ben exist. He doesn't have to exist. Yeah, he has to be melted otherwise If the grab master didn't melt people they would have been melt Melted Well, yeah, if gold bloom in thor three if he had melted that one guy he would have been melted Who melts the melters? That's what this show should be called Yeah, what does the tyverits authority do if there were lots of witnesses like around when they need to do that? I don't care if they show up in the 1500s just wearing suits and shit I guess i'm just wondering it's like if there are if you're in a room with like like if if if if Thor had done something wrong And then he couldn't kill Thanos Are you just gonna melt like what what's your plan? How do you fix this while Thanos is also here Are you just gonna melt all of them? Can you melt Thanos? Is that within your power? Well, this is the thing they just if they're a mamu they just show up to try to absorb earth He would have been melted He would have melted to a mamu Now don't mamu listen up There there's a path to follow the sacred rope thread that is the timeline So if if if you don't bargain with dr. Strange are gonna melt you Don't tell him we came I will melt you Yeah Yeah, he's like i would never have had that accident They would have melted him and rigged his car so that he had his accident. They cut the brakes They would have been like Dilma was like, I don't ever agree to dr. Strange's stupid plan. They're like, no, seriously, we will melt you No, you do we'll melt we'll melt you do mamu. Don't test us Egor or something you can do something with ego that would have melted the whole planet of ego How do you know? This is so bullshit I Wanted they don't melt people they reset the timeline they melts people melt people We've watched them melt people Yeah, they uh this the same like so it you guys have to appreciate like whether or not Loki would have been melted or reset or whatever if any of them happened to like stand out of line in their stupid ticket system They could get melted So that play creation says carly had to burn those people alive or she would have got she would have been melted Walk out to decapitate that guy or he would have been melted Oh my god, if falca didn't say do better. He would have been melt Purple brain says if the avengers had stopped Thanos in infinity war they would have been If wonder hadn't taken over the town she would have been melted. Yeah Oh my goodness They don't make the reset. No, they melt the person. Yeah, they melt the people fucking hell They literally melt them if black widow had ever missed one shot. She would have been melted. Yeah I don't even like trying to think about it. You're right Liam Hulk had to dab The sacred timeline demands that oh That right there's a tweet He would have been melted AC has a point if hitler went to art school. He'd be This is this is great. I'm I feel free. I I'm like oh and man. I've got that weight. It's gone from my shoulders It's all it's all absurd now and it's It just ride that shit to hell Fuck it We're all getting melted anyway Yeah, that's the religious side of it like everyone's get melted to shut the fuck up and get all with it They had to farm rhinos or they'd be melted. It's true when they were picking which animal to domesticate and work with They just they knew it had to be the rhino Oh my god It's so It's just so wonder had had kill monger not beating black panther and throwing him off the the thing They would have melted black panther You fucked up, dude Well, because this is the thing I just wanted to bring up quickly I think you guys kind of touched on it But picture your Thanos and you made a wrong choice at some point while you have that gauntlet They show up looking for an anomaly and he'd be like what the fuck and then they and then they look at him They're like you You come with us and you just fucking vaporizes them Well, yeah, that's the thing Like how could you stop Thanos if he or if someone's more powerful than you which You have a bunch of batons I I don't see how that would work against someone who had like You know a glock like I've got here like I could stop the time police. I could right now me at this desk This is what does that mean, you know, this reminds me we showed that can be defeated by fire like this They're they're limited. Let's say I I have to post this for you to see because this is hilarious I Know Someone says if I stop the time, please I'll get melted. Well, they're gonna melt me anyway Yeah, there's apparently no pathway to redemption here in this system Which makes me wonder why they go through the fucking charade. You don't even know what you've done wrong You you just get told you made the wrong decision Yeah, they bring you before this judge bitch and she's like, uh, yeah, you violated the sacred timeline Duh, don't you know this and like no one knows it. You made this up for the show five minutes ago So it rags didn't ruin grandma would they melt him? Yeah, they would I had to If nick fury didn't lose his eye to a space cat he'd have been melted. Well, the cat would have been melted Maybe he would have been reset Like she would have been melted Well picture that anyway, right the whole reset thing so that little device. I'm assuming within a certain radius reverts everything back in time in that area to run again, right? Yeah, I guess sorry because Loki was the anomaly so they removed him from that area And then we reset the Yeah, we don't know what the the Proxy I don't even know if you could possibly reset proximity in a certain place on earth time wise without fucking with everything else but yeah But the big takeaway of this is that if peter parker's landlord had fixed that damn door That he would have been melted And peter being on time delivering the pizza. He would have been melted. Had he not done the funny dance down the street He would have been melted Had jaredleeta's joker not been an idea. He would have been melted You can just apply that to every single thing have they not done that they would have been melted Get melted when you fix this damn door What have you done? What have you done? You know it's bad that they don't even realize what they've done Who doesn't get melted in the system? It's pretty unclear. You get charged with being an anomaly and then you get made guilty I don't even know why they put you through the system at that point Yeah, they should just melt you on the spot and save themselves some time Where did you learn to write on a melted farm? You can't even what if the plant doesn't grow the right way do they just show up and melt the plant and reset the forest? What if a ladybug just makes a different decision? They melt the ladybug and reset the time well, we went down to the quantum level earlier. They have to do it all yeah If if an atom just moves it slightly differently than it was supposed to they melted if the sun Just has a little different chemical reaction. They melt the sun and have to redo it Someone said my brain is melting right now. Yeah, that's pretty good. It better be otherwise you'll be melted They're just sitting up there watching the holocaust happen And the nazis they only kill five million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine jews So Hitler gets melted or something I thought you were gonna go grimmer like one of the jews escapes when they weren't supposed to get teleported and melted Well They're like oh, I finally escaped that terrible terrible Auschwitz and then boom the time cops show up and say Freeze jew you're coming with us You son of a bitch you went off script. It's like what? You are supposed to die horribly in that terrible impressive concentration camp I don't you melt the nazis because the spaceless They're supposed to win isn't it obvious. It's the sacred timeline set by the spaceless and see like all right. Yeah Cruella was better Yep, it was It's hard to be you gotta pick a number are these the things that you've ever said Either this is and they put it in front of the bitch judge it's like Do you know you have any idea? What horrible crimes you've committed by escaping from that concentration camp and they're just like shocked and confused They just get they just they just escape one Nazi organization to get dropped into another Craigs a snow gets out of the fridge it gets melted. Yeah It does Craigs as someone in your time zone. What are you doing up so early? I'm just up. I don't know I was I was thinking about going to bed before we watched the show, but I don't know. I think the hate is just giving me energy I might just I wish I could like I have no energy It's given me this Yeah, I feel like I'm re-energized just talking about it because when you said you guys have a free hour lol to talk about this show um I was like, yeah, I suppose I got it and now I just feel I feel like I just woke up It's Laughing about the show in the time in the time crime I need to go back and watch the time crime episodes from super jail to see if they actually sort of make more sense because they probably do Y'all remember super jail. That was fun. That was a fun show Super jail was fun They had they had a different theme song for the pilot and they chose a shittier theme song for the actual show Why? Rags if you wouldn't have been up this early you would have melted. That's very true. That's true. Yeah God imagine being aware of this system because every single thing you ever choose to do you're like, oh god, is this do I die? This is it I feel like I should use that if I ever get pulled over by a cop. It's like, I'm sorry officer I had to be speeding right here because I would have been melted bring it up with the space lizards I Um normally or normally in shows The message or the idea will be the opposite of this That you have no destiny the future is what you make of it. You decide you're the one who could change the future You're not locked into a fate. You have the power to da da da. It's very it's empowering Yeah, you might say there are tv shows whose core fundamental message is that you always have a choice Yeah Not about this show. Yeah, this show. I'd do in this shit If Luke stayed and fought the first order he would have been melted It's so fucking absurd Oh my god, now we know why movie bob can never touch And you'll be melted no faith but what we melt Had movie bob not tweeted that that's a small amount for average size personally would have been melted If Norman Osborn wasn't somewhat of a scientist How to tweet all of these at the same time jesus is so good Oh my god, oh my goodness If terminator can 180 on this then marvel can too. Yeah, well it's so turn out terminator 180 in like a shitty way Like they reset everything and it was gonna happen no matter what but You can't even this is the thing if someone like you can always reset the timeline It's like can you actually reset this this is like the concept of time so it's like you can't even reset it through time If if the green goblin wasn't ship if the green goblin wasn't shadow band on twitter he would have been If if hush didn't break ryan's plant on batwoman season Had alice not killed all of the people she killed she would have been melted No faith but what we melt is so good jesus hadn't Determinator franchise was walking off a cliff tried to 180 but did a 365 Damn chats on fire today Right yeah, oh my god That's right if doc hockey would have used his tentacle blade. He would have been melted. That's very true. Yeah Think of all the dead peters and alternate attempts at you know Oh If beauty pie didn't say the ad would he have been melted? Oh my gosh You know that the psychology of the view for erie's like it's the voices the demons. He's like if i hadn't done it They'd have melted me I was speaking of which speaking of that guy someone posted this meme in my chat in my discord Real demons that's for sure If palpatine didn't somehow return Palpatine hadn't said ironic, isn't it? He would have been melted ironic Ironic and he just doesn't finish the sentence. It's like no Run back only to be melted If everyone hadn't got the high ground he would have Yeah, anakin was supposed to be the one who gets if anakin had the high ground he would have melted Yeah, that's right Melted if you do melt it if you don't it's it's it's tough for anakin. That's a tough one. Yeah Yeah, if terminator tip the t800 there if he hadn't gone into the The the pool of liquid metal and melted he would have been Yeah, if the sequel trilogy was good then jj So, but yeah, that's right moonlight if anakin hadn't been melted he would have been One ring to melt them all Yeah, bilbo didn't solve gandalf's riddle there are sorry if smegel had guessed bilbo's riddle correctly he would have Daenerys had to melt king's landing or she would have yeah, she would have been melted If I just saw someone mention toy story if wouldn't if would he didn't abandon his friends he would have been melted If john connor wasn't killed in the first five minutes he'd have been melted If australia defeated the emus If rick didn't turn into a pickle he would have been melted Oh god What a wonderful universe. Oh my cheeks are sore Made strong not for what I normally do Trying to keep up too much fire I think I don't know which is my favorite, but I do love the old told po the plan she would have been melted If luke hadn't Throwed the lightsaber off the cliff he would have been melted No, the tba behind it all Oh, listen to this one if I didn't add molasses extract to my milkshake it'd be malted Oh, oh boy. I can look at you If christ didn't shoot fake me, uh, he would have been If batman hadn't said why did you say that name he would have been melted I'd go off chris. What's important? The wicked witch had not been Forgotten where the planet was he would have been melted It's the thing you can't really blame these cut this piece of content anymore That's right. That's right. He hates plot to eat and he would have been melted. Yeah, that's roof. It's really Yeah, that's right chris was just he didn't want to be melted The most unfair ones are when they're melting as a result of trying to avoid being melted Of course, I don't know if it's been said, but if abby didn't kill joe, she would have been melted Yeah, it's not really her fault at that point, is it? If ethan didn't say it's dark It's dark If superman saved people he would have been belted If he saved me If galgenon was a good actress he would be melted She had to said calol no and that specific way she would have been melted And again, if wesker hadn't said complete global saturation, he would have been saturated He would have been saturated He was just trying to save the world by saturating it so that the time people didn't do it themselves If an actually liked stand he would have been If he liked sand If abby shumer made people laugh she'd be melted If one woman hadn't believed in love I guess she would have been melted too If chris didn't punch boulders he would have been melted Oh my goodness Oh my eyes they hurt If mauler hadn't made a six part series on tfa he would have been melted I can give him this they threatened it So he had to make it long you see because the time cops told him to If pa if pa can't told clark to save the children You you know what he asked him should I've let them die park head looks off in the distance so you could see the tva there Maybe If aquaman hadn't killed all the crab people he would have been melted if if um was if aquaman had taken up his mother's trident If jerker hadn't told batman he'd give him a reach around he would have been melted If martian manhunter had helped he would have been melted If ludendorff had had enough If wonder woman didn't kill 18 year old german conscript she would have been melted So, uh, the episode wasn't very good. Yeah, it wasn't good, but at least we ended on a high note Yeah I say should we should we I guess we should stop there I can uh put all these these super chats into a selection because uh, this is already an hour over what we intended Yeah, it was to be a quick stream But you all tellin jokes that are funnies The lucky killin It is having to make these decisions How do you see the time people outside his window? They're just watching him butter his brick to make sure he gets it exactly right Oh I'm so tired, but could you imagine if his little door is standing there in mount doom And he's like gonna throw the ring in and then he looks over at the time people Now gotta keep the fucking ring It wasn't borom's fault that he tried to take the ring the time people were standing off On is like, I don't know about this whole dominate in the world thing. They're like you better fucking dominate the world If Chris explained himself to Ethan he would have been melted Oh my god, the time cop defense My face hurts from laughing Oh, yeah, if metal had finished the movie bob challenge Melted Dude anyone following me on twitter right now is gonna be so confused Oh If Luke didn't kiss his sister Oh man What I just It's all just If the eagles had flown some water or they would have been Crime we shot it out with Oh, no, if Kratos didn't grab him like a little cloud boy, you would have known We better stop we okay, yeah, all right, so Oh, no last one if jacob kane doesn't found out what you bring me he would have been melted The king all right, that's enough We will I think the meme fab is coming out this weekend and we'll just be doing a catch-up stream again And we'll these ones will probably be done first from this whole stream We'll see you then folks, um No, I don't have any dates for when things are coming out working away on on all kinds of things free fab so See you then I suppose. Um, thank you for joining us and I hope you had some fun Oh Yeah, no problem. It was fun And uh, yeah anything else you guys want to say before we jump away? I got nothing most is awful Yes Who knows how many times we've done this stream and you do it exactly the right way I melt it and reset who knows how many melted corpses of rags are just laying on this floor next to a snow dude I hate waiting. I hate to think about it But yeah, what if you do something wrong at your computer while you're streaming and they arrive and put that little device down That's not going to change all of the shit you did. Oh, yeah across the internet It's got to be the whole planet right? It's going to affect all of reality at that point The position of the earth and the solar system They rewind everything That little tiny that little cylinder rewinds the whole universe. I guess so it's pretty powerful, huh? Damn, then why do they have to even go there? What if it happens in space? Yeah, on the ISS on the international space station Yeah, open up What if other time people are doing their time thing and you rewind and they're like, well, no, fuck you you ruined it You know, what if the time cops fuck up the arrest and they don't do it right? Yeah, what if they go off script by accident? Yeah Oh boy, this just gets better better But what a great episode. Thank you so much for making it disney EFAP did indeed melt everyone's shown up for this Yeah early early early morning stream of madness as we ride this roller coaster into our own grave A white evening depending on your point of view. We had loads of fun We will catch you in the future folks to the pip gio. Bye everyone. Don't get melted. Don't get melted