 Ni kutubuwe matakumia wad temika nilekiwa kua muna misiana uigula? Ni mtya kutubuwe maikini na kia misiana nilekiwa kua mifetini uswacha ni haza wad, isu napuhuwe matata. Mwada kwa. Namua ini iubiliwa mkutubu, hwiyia kta nao, kutubuwe matakunia na kutubuwe matila. 7uikesu maikini, kutubuwe mkutubuwe, nulaka mwarapuwe. Vyei nau ni jitendu wakali. Mwaha mwaha mwada. Ntia, kwa mubila. Nuna siwa nae. If you can lay your head on your pillow and say I might not have gotten everything but I did my best, that's great. Number two, be ready to adapt to different situations, times, places, things. I mean if by let's say 2020, everybody was like okay, sasa the in thing is TikTok for example, but now there is threads and we don't know what's going to come up by January. So maybe now Ellen Marks, Pia Takas Rika, Anzisha Kitungine. So just be ready to adapt when time comes, but while you're adapting number three, remain true to who you are, always. Let's not always be the foundation you go back to. Let's know these things, let them not change you, you can adapt but still remain who you are. The fundamental things that make you you, don't change that just because you want to fit in a place, because the world needs the authentic you. Thank you. Here with the media personality, Willis Raburus. Do you come up with media personality? Wa bebe. Wa bebe. Media lasima. Tuko bado. Mampoi ko aje. After social media, ni media. By the way. Yes sir, yes sir. How are you doing, how are you feeling tonight? I'm great, I'm happy, I'm excited for Dana Seder, for other podcasts, for content creation general in Kenya. I'm very excited. We have our very own platform right now. How does that make you feel, especially someone who has been into podcasting? Yes, I think it's amazing because the greatest thing globally is that Africans are not telling their stories. So then you go down to Africa it gets even worse. Kenya it gets even worse. So I think now it's good because now we have a platform where noise on gear. You can tell authentic stories and on different topics. Sila zime kwe sports, motherhood, health, mental health, man talk, all these things. I know a lot of people, Willis, who really want to get into podcasting. But their question is always, what about monetization? When am I going to make money? What should you like to tell them? Well it could be either way. It could be that you're just lucky you actually talk about something. Maybe you started three episodes and it's actually something that then becomes current and a need. And then you get immediate money. Or you could take some time. Like Adele said, she took about 50 episodes in before she started making money. But the thing is just to be consistent. And I think as platforms like Wazogro because the way Wazogro has been created is you can go to the platform. Then you can book an ad for a specific podcast if you're a client that is. So then I think with things like this coming up, it makes it easier now. You don't have to wait so long for monetization. And then also to pitch. Once you get some episodes in, you're consistent. Instead of waiting for them to come, you can go to them. Yeah. End of coincides. Yes. So now being at the Royal Media Services for more than a decade, you must have gotten so many lessons. Yes. Tafadali to pay 32 that we can take home. Yes. Number one, excellence is not an event. It's a way of life. And that goes to what we're talking about being consistent. Every single day, wake up, show up, do your best. That's all anybody ever ask of you. Just do your best. I want you done with that by the time it's time to sleep. If you can lay your head on your pillow and say, I might not have gotten everything, but I did my best. That's great. Number two, be ready to adapt to different situations, times, places, things. I mean, if by, let's say, 2020, everybody was like, OK, sasa the main thing is TikTok, for example. But now there is threads. And we don't know what's going to come up by January. Maybe now Ellen Marks, Pia Takasrika, Anzisha Kitungina. So just be ready to adapt when time comes. But while you're adapting, number three, remain true to who you are always. But let that always be the foundation you go back to. Let's know these things, let them not change you. You can adapt, but still remain who you are. The fundamental things that make you, you don't change that just because you want to fit in a place. Because the world needs the authentic you. Yes. One thing that people misunderstand about you, Willis. Well, people think that I am very brave. Oh, really? Not really brave, but I think people, for example, I can come into a room like this. I'm very shy because people know my persona as being loud, happy to see. So if I can avoid it, I avoid crumbs in places. But I'm learning. But most people, nobody ever says hi to me. Sasa, Willis, uko aje. I'm like, any aje bazu. Yeah. And sometimes me ne mututu wa kuwana Netflix, nani chill. Yeah, that's one big conception. Yeah. Three traits if an individual has or rather they possess, they cannot be your friend. They cannot be my friend. Number one, if they're a liar. Number two, if they look down on people, if they are proud and conceited. And number three, if what? Yeah, those two are my top two. But number three, if they disrespect my family, they cannot be my friend. Okay. Yes. Okay, talk to me about that one. All right, Willis, last, last question. Please encourage or rather just give a few tips to someone who's out there and they are looking forward to starting a podcast. Right. First thing is start. Number one is you have a story. So you have to tell it. Number two is just start. You don't have to wait for the sophisticated equipment these days. Put a phone in front of you, get some good lighting and start talking. Then number three, now you can talk to some of walks, water podcast and all these people so that they can help you. And then you can come up with an agreement. But start be consistent. I tell you what, the world needs to hear you. But your thing is so small. But I mean they are podcasts about features of phones. They are podcasts about health. They are podcasts about sports. They are podcasts about life, being a dad, being a mom, being a brother, being a sibling. They are podcasts about how to get a job. They are podcasts about sports of course. Any field, health, education. So look at all these fields and just start. Put it out there. Don't overthink it. Just start and then now be consistent. And learn. Because it's a learning thing. And as you learn, take your listener's journey. Let them also see your growth. If you make a mistake, come back and say, are they Eliniramba? And if you do something positive and do works, share it. That way we all grow. Willis, I also have to ask you this. How is the future looking like? The near future looking like for Willis Raburu because we don't know what we are expecting from you. Well the future is looking great. I can tell you that. It's looking amazing. It's looking impactful. And it's full of surprises. It's full of surprises. Actually that's the thing. It has impact and it's full of surprises. So we wait for surprises from you? Oh yes. Yes, yes. Alright guys. Yeah, coming soon. Watch this space. Alright Willis, thank you so much. Thank you so much.