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Whether it's comedy on stage, whether it's podcast, you know, whether it's being on the street on hell of a week. Chico Bean is here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. Chico Bean. I was waiting on the room noise for the applause. I didn't know if y'all did that. Y'all done moved up, man. You know, I done been coming through here for a long time. Yeah, the episode is your brother's house. Yeah, that's right. On the couch. You have really expanded. You got your Hans Lander from Inglorious Bastards Headcuttion. I know it. I know it. I know you with it. And of course, we already know how Charlemagne has upgraded his life and skin and all of that. So it's good to see y'all moving forward. This is actually WTF Media Studios. But we do have the new Brilliant Idiots studios under construction right now. Oh, y'all constructing the studio? Absolutely. Trying to build something. We're going to launch a podcast in January. We got to officially announce the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Yeah. Oh, really? After all these years, you still feel like y'all need to announce it. It's only been nine. Andrew brought up a good point a few weeks ago. Yeah, what did I say? I remember bringing up a good point, but what was it? I didn't remember that part. He said that there's so many people who don't even know we do a podcast. Still, after all this time. I mean, I can't tell you how many people, and this is how it goes every single time. If it's a black person, they go, bro, I'll show you on Charlemagne's podcast. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm on there quite frequently. It's a white person. They say I saw them. They're like, yeah, I saw Charlemagne on your podcast. Yeah. So now we're going to announce it. He's right. I was walking through the airport. Two people. Yo, I love you on Flagrant. I ain't even correct him. I'm like, yeah, no doubt. Yeah. So come January, we're going to announce that we're starting a podcast. Yeah, with the new studio and everything else. After all of the, when y'all wanted the original podcast and y'all still not done that. Yeah, no, that is true. Could podcasts only been around with 12, Chris, 13, maybe? If that popular for about nine. So y'all was the first one. I know this is one of the first podcasts I ever did. So really? Yeah. All the way back in the gap. It was one of the first ones. Oh, yeah. You were at the live one, too. You remember that? Yeah. All the way. We did the live one downtown. I did the one at the crib. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I came through the live one. Yo, congratulations on what you guys have built. Man, thank you, man. For real, it's unbelievable. I look at these numbers all the time. I'm like, watching you guys on YouTube. We'll be the white man checking the numbers. Oh, oh, let's see what we're up against. For real, it's motivational. It is, man. I look and I see I'm like, God, this is truly unbelievable. It's just so awesome. What do you think has had more impact on you? She go to the podcast or the standup? I mean, the standup is always. All wild and out, all are wild and out. I mean, I would say the standup because it all, you know, came from that. If I wouldn't have got on stage, then none of this would have been possible. So I would definitely say the standup. But, you know, to see the effect that the 85 South Show has had is, you know, it's been as though it was born from something so organic to see the impact that it's having is always surprised. Wild and out was around before we came around. So we kind of came in and revamped and, you know, recreated it. So that's major as well. But when you do it from, you know, your own inception, I'm sure that's probably what we feel about the 85 is probably what Nick feels about wild and out and the impact that is made. So I would definitely say stand up first, though, because, you know, without that, then, you know, it wouldn't be, you know, nothing to have. It's still wild that Nick tried to fire Carlos, man. Yeah, I think about that often. The only reason I say that is because you're not the only reason you say that is because you fucking Charlemagne. You a trope. No, you DC and Carlos with anybody else. It would have been there. You want to have a conversation with a motherfucker who won't talk to him tomorrow. Nick, I literally was just talking about Nick. I'm talking about Carlos. You know, you know, oh, man, OK, let's not talk about that. How do you feel about the juice? What? What? What is your? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're going to throw it back on you. How you feel about bread? I mean, we don't play bread far. Yes, you do. No, you're not about to throw that on me. Next question. We bump it up on the chest. What do you think about the money from the black community? We were all about bread far until he showed his dick on Instagram. And then we were like, you are down with bread far. I didn't even know it was on Instagram. You know what I know that. Those are your people. Stop it, bro. You told me when when Safari's dick was that. Remember, I never told you that. Now you're lying. You text me like, yo, the only thing is drop. I never did that. Why would you lie like that? OK, I can sue you for that. How long did you stay at Bread Farmer's dick? What type of lawyer would you use to sue me? How long did you stay at Bread Farmer's dick? Long enough to know my name. All right, look, man, time out. Does that make you a Green Bay first partner? Let's not go in this direction with you two motherfuckers while I'm here. Let's stop. That is phenomenal. That is phenomenal. Bro, I was from for a hot second, I was a Green Bay fudge packer, bro. That was crazy. Oh, Green Bay fudge packer. Oh my god, man. But you know what's so funny about the Bread Farmer case? What's that? That is the narrative, right? Like when everybody talks about Kyrie, they be like, yo, you know why nobody talking about Bread Farmer? Why aren't people talking about Bread Farmer? I don't know when social media is going to realize. Who's not? I thought everybody's talking about it. On your side of social media, they are. They may be, but not on. Why aren't you guys talking about more? It affects you all more. That's my point. Like social media takes stories and magnifies them. So when you're wondering why outlets aren't talking on Bread Farmer the way that they should be, it's because they don't see no heat for it on social media. Everybody talking about Kyrie on social media is all these debates and people going back and forth and arguing. Of course they going to talk about that at Nazism on mainstream outlets. I got a question about the Kyrie shit, though. Is that movie still up? Yeah. And the price went up to rent it. Like apparently before he tweeted the link, it was reasonably priced to rent. I think it's like $50 to rent now. It's not before years. I'm sure. So this is what I'm trying to understand, right? It's like how can a company be profiting off of it and then Kyrie share the public thing and then Kyrie be the only person that gets screwed? Well, let's talk about that. I don't know if a company is profiting off it because I don't know how it works because this is self-upload. So you can upload that kind of content yourself to Amazon Prime Video. So I don't know. You could also buy Hitler's manifesto, right? Like MineConf, they sell that, right? So I guess they do. You can sell horrible things. Yes. And also people are acting like the ADL and other Jewish organizations didn't write letters to Amazon. Like that came out four or five days ago. What's the ADL? Anti-Defamation League. Anti-Defamation League. That they asked Amazon to take it down. And Amazon just responded a couple of days ago and said that they're going to put like a disclaimer. That's what they're considering, putting a disclaimer with the video. I guess that's what we do with music, too, right? Like there's all those fucking rock songs back in that day telling you to kill yourself and then they put a disclaimer on. Johnny Rebel. Was that the- Go, go, go, go, go to- There was a whole court case about it. Go to Johnny Rebel right now. Google Johnny Rebel. Nah, don't do that. I'm an Alabama nigger and I want to be free. Hail to the NAACP. You see, you talk about the Cal-Ree situation. No, no, no, no, no, no. You talk about it in these days. You recommend something and then the next thing you know, you're promoting and you know you- You know why Chico Johnny's just talking about black people. That's all. Oh, yeah. But that's the part that I think is the most unfortunate about the situation because I don't- I think that we have a, you know, just a misconception about being offended. You can't determine what is offensive to someone else. You have no right in determining what's offensive. So you just have to be conscious in who you offend. Because if you offend the right people, then you, you know, there's backlash, but unfortunately for us as black people, it's where the easiest people to offend without having to worry about any backlash coming from our friends. Oh, repercussion, it's our fault. But I think that's where our frustration comes from because we see, you know, just like you were saying, just the Jewish community be able to galvanize their people and come together for a cause. And I think- I never said that. Yeah, you did say it. I never said that. But that was smart the way you did it. That was really smart. You said that. That was smart the way you did that. Yeah, that was real. And that's what you said. I always knew that this guy was super high IQ. Oh, what do you know what I mean? That's what got approved. That was genius right there. I like how you didn't let it flip though. I was like, no, I didn't say that. I thought I did say that. Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, hey, we're back and forth, baby. But, you know, I think that a lot of it comes from us being able, as a community, as black people seeing that, hey, man, if we had that power or if we had the ability to be able to make people, an organization to make people look at us and say, ah, don't say that about black people, because if you do, you know there's going to be some repercussions for it. That is a good point. Like, I guess every community has the right to protect their community in the way they see it. And if you are in positions where you can protect it, like for example, let's say, what happened with the NBA around like Donald Sterling? Remember when Donald Sterling was saying that wild shit? They got him the first time they did. Yo, we're not playing. Right? Or was it George Floyd when they boycotted? The bubble, they left some of them, I think they didn't play for a day. Or maybe it was the Bucks. No, it wasn't George Floyd. Who got killed in Milwaukee? It was the guy in Milwaukee that got shot. I don't think he was murdered, but he was just shot. But there was basically the players like, okay, we have some power. We can decide to not play and we can affect this game based on how we see fit. Now, I will say there are certain moments where like you see somebody does or at least speaks on something that could potentially be offensive and then they get punished. Like, Megyn Kelly, who was asking the question, why is it racist if a kid wears blackface in a costume for their character? Do you remember that? So, truly, you do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween or a black person who puts on whiteface on Halloween. Like, back when I was a kid, that was okay as long as you were dressing up as like a character. She got fired by NBC for that. Now, what do you guys think about that? I think, well, go ahead. I don't quite remember it. So, I don't know if that's why she got fired for just asking that question? Yeah, I think that she wasn't being empathetic to why blackface was offensive within a costume. I don't think her asking that question, if that's what happened, I don't think her asking that question is a fireball. I think there were more things that were going on. I think the show maybe wasn't being the ratings they wanted, but they used that as the excuse. A woman that was like Santa Claus is white. Jesus is white. Was that the same woman? Santa Claus is white. There's no black people that live that far north. Really? I mean, do you know any Blacks in Nicely? Santa Claus definitely is white. I've never, you said Santa Claus is white. Jesus is black. Santa Claus is white. Also, what black person can just sneak into your house? Plenty of people are excited, according to the police reports. But they're not excited. They don't leave fucking swamped in there. I mean, but Santa Claus is black, forget about it. I think that, you know, for us, we've been given one trump card as, you know, black people and that's the n-word, you know. If you say the n-word, it's over. It's over. No, it's over. Everything else is over. Everything else is, everything else is over. That's not true. It's other slurs. Like, you know, think about a... Not as bad as the n-word. Well, think about Rosanne when Rosanne said that Valerie Jarrett, Jarrett looked like a monkey. Oh, referring to a black person, yeah. You know, she referred to Valerie Jarrett as a monkey. ABC at the time had a black woman as a president. They got Rosanne about it. But I hear what he's saying. It's like, there's this one thing where if you do it, even if you're not in positions of power, the community can go, hey, they cross that line. Right. But it seems like you're saying there are other things that are also offensive and you'd like to be able to... All the way. And I think the reason why the n-word is such a big Trump call for us is because it is a direct correlation to the horrific shit that has happened to black people in this country. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? When you say that, it brings back all of the shit that you see the conversation being centered around now. You saw, I saw you put up the clip of Nick having a conversation... With Jonathan Greenblatt on the... On the CEO of the ADL. On the podcast about buck breaking in. I can wholeheartedly say, I know Kyrie Irving is not anti-Semitic. When given the chance to say, are you anti-Semitic or not, he didn't say, no, I'm not anti-Semitic. At the press conference, tell us about that movie, why he did it. He said, stop dehumanizing me. And the movie is saying white Jews invented the Holocaust and 6 million Jews didn't get killed. Okay, I know that isn't right. Right. Because it's a gigantic historical record. Jewish people know when you dehumanize us this way, we know what's around the corner. So in that same statement as those are the tropes that dehumanize Jewish people, the same buck breaking... I don't really know what that means to be perfectly honest. The slave masters would bring the buck, the one that gets out of line. So all the other slaves would see lash after lash, show them the power to set an example. This is what you must do to fall in line. So when we see the six things that Kyrie must do to get his job back, that's dehumanizing. You know, some of the things that happened during slavery and the n-word is a direct correlation to direct correlation, excuse me, to that. And I think that's why it's so major when people hear it said by anybody, but especially a white person, because it's like you are taking responsibility for all the shit that occurred. And the n-word is the one everybody should know, right? Yeah. Like I ain't no excuses for the n-word at this point. If you let that fly as a white person, you gotta deal with the consequences. But think about it, it almost like organizes the world in a pretty easy way for white people because they're just like, all right, just avoid this one word and then everything's fine. Yeah. Right? All the way. With everybody else, we're walking on eggs up. Can you say Latino? Is it Latin X? You can't say Latino? What is, you know, nowadays they're like, we want to be heard as Latin X because they don't tend to... Latinos hate Latin X. They do. Yeah, Latinos don't even like that phrase. I'm going to sound so ignorant. It's okay. Is it like Latin X, like the Spanish Malcolm X? Is that a person? The autobiography of Latin X. At least I announced it first. I was like, not me. By Alexandro, by Alexandro Haley. I didn't know. I was at least I am. My Dominican partner. My trip in. He's Puerto Rican. All right. Puerto Rican. But it's like, the language, the language has gender in it. It's like Latino, not Latino. So they're trying to be inclusive to people who don't identify as a gender. So why don't we just do Latin X because we don't know who or how you identify. Okay, gotcha. And most Latinos are just like, nah, bro. We don't give a fuck about it. It's rough out here now with all of the different terminologies and... And that's why we all got to give each other grace. We all just trying to figure it out. People be ready to crucify the things that we don't know. I called someone that. I tried to call. This is literally how I'm getting this coffee. I'm like, bro, I don't hear that shit. You don't know what the fuck you're doing. I tried to do my best. I get my coffee and then I already put the order in. And the lady literally... The lady goes, the lady goes, did you already order? And then I turned next to me and there was what appeared to be a they. So I was trying to be safe. And I go, I go, no, that's next. And I'm meant to say they are next. But I called it that. You called it it. I called it it. Bro, I don't know what the fuck to do. That's my wife, Frona. Yeah, I'm this and she's that. I love it. That's a fact. That's our Frona. I'm this and she's that. Man, man, that's crazy. You have to develop a pronoun these days, man. I was watching in living color. Classic. And to know. You might get canceled for watching that in 2022. Yeah, I know. Like, to know. Is that on Amazon? To know. To know. Like my God. Like, I would be afraid to... It's a sketch called the racist realtor. Yeah, I don't remember that. Do you remember that one when... I can't remember the lady's name, but she was selling the house in New York. The white lady? The white lady. And each person... Each race of people that came, she would just spew out all the different stereotypes. She was like, when Tommy Davidson came, he was a black man, she was like, oh, you'll love it here. There are gunshots every night. You'll be able to fall asleep to the same thing you fall asleep to in whatever community you came from. Let me tell you a little bit about the apartment, Shelly. Firstly, this locale is ideal for you. There is a golden bird fried chicken right down on the corner. And you know something? There is a crack house over on 7th. I tell you, people are getting beat up and shot there all the time. And what with you being a doctor and all your business could be booming. Cry, I'm Sheila Pease. Hi, how are you? Aren't you adorable? I bet when you grow up, you want to manage a 7-Eleven just like your father. You'll get all the big goats you want, won't you? You know what I mean? And it's just like to know that that was normal. So much so that you can put it on national television in the 90s versus now where it's no way. Were people offended by that back then? Yes, I'm going to tell you, I had a conversation with David Allen Greer about that. Matter of fact, David Allen Greer and Ken and I were going, and both of them said the same thing. They said, yes, people were outraged. It just took them longer to complain. Ah, because there was no... Because you had to call or fax it in. You know what I'm saying? So by the time they would get this shit, it was munching down the line. Yeah. And how offended do you have? You have to really be offended. To write a letter. That's right. You have to really be offended. You don't have to really be offended now. The tweet. That's right. You just have to, you know, feel like, oh, you can not even feel anyway, but you can see now that the being offended is the way to go and just jump in line with something to feel like you're a part of something. I think that's really what the stigma is now. People just want to be a part of something. That's right. Even if they don't feel offended or they're not mad at something, they see everybody else is like, oh, I'm going to go with the group that looks like it's winning. That's right. Yeah. And a lot of the feelings feel temporary, right? Like going back to something we was talking about earlier, when we talked about it last week as well, it's like, yo, when we talk about people who offend certain communities, they offend black people, Jewish people, Asian people, whoever it is, it's all about how that community responds. And we tend sometimes to let things just roll off our back. We complain for a few hours on social media and then it's on to the next. Who's writing the letters? You know, what organization is writing the letters on our behalf saying, hey, we not going to stand for this? Because I don't know what y'all think, but Frederick Douglass said at the best, power concedes nothing without a demand. What demands are we making when we get offended? I mean, what demands could we make? I mean, when you think about that, who would be even the person or the group? It's supposed to be NAACP. It's supposed to be Urban League, you know? We got organizations like Untell, Freedom Out here that's really doing the work. I don't know. Why don't we think about what we want from it? I mean, that was the thing that was so weird to me about the Kyrie situation. Is it like... Pull up Kyrie's demands. Pull up. Well, yeah, this is the goal I would imagine. Again, I'm not Jewish, so I can't say what the Jewish community wants. But... When did this stop you before? Shokes. I'm going to do it. I'm still going to do it. But what I imagine is, is you want to stop the rhetoric, right? So you want to stop people believing this stuff and you want to stop people pushing these ideas out there. So the best way, in my understanding, to do that is to teach somebody, and not to seemingly humiliate them. Yes. So when you humiliate somebody, and don't get me wrong, him posting that might be humiliating for so many Jews. So that's very frustrating. Not just humiliating, they feel it's dangerous. And scary, yeah. So I understand that knee-jerk reaction. But on the other end, you also have to look at, like Kyrie is a lot of people's heroes. So when you try to say, hey, you need to do this, you need to do that, this is the only way we're going to forgive you, to somebody's hero, that's not going to gain support from those people who look at them. Yeah. And what I would hope that you would do is use this as an opportunity, maybe to educate Kyrie. And then Kyrie can use his own platform to tell his people why, what he did was wrong if he sees fit. When you start forcing people to do things, it doesn't make them go, you know what, I was wrong. It makes them say I was wrong for the minute. And then right afterwards they're like, man, fuck those. Now, is this a force, or is this me saying, hey, man, this is what I need to feel good about what you did? You hurt us, you offended us, this is what I need. You don't have to do it. I think it's like, I don't know, my thing with these things is always a play to the future. It's like, why don't you appeal to what's going on in Kyrie and why he was looking at that information and then help educate him on why you think it's wrong. If you know for a fact it's wrong and it's unequivocal evidence, just show him. He'll be embarrassed that he posted something that was wrong to all those people. Like, think about when you go out there with an opinion, we'd all done this and we put our foot on it, we stamp it and then someone goes, bro, that was completely wrong. That's the thing Kyrie didn't- It's embarrassing, bro. But Kyrie didn't give an opinion. That's what I'm saying. Well, he was like, this is a really interesting thing. But he put it out with no context. He didn't say anything. He just tweeted a link to something and then allowed people to develop or think whatever they wanted to think. And then now he's in this position. But when I see something like this, I wonder who made this list and how do we know that this is what the community that is offended actually wants him to do? Or is this- Who gets to speak to the community? I think this came from the ADL. I'm not sure. I don't know if this came from the NBA or the ADL. But regardless, it's like, how do you know that the ADL represents the average Jewish person? Like, when I speak to my Jewish homies about this, they're like, listen, we don't want it to be chastising. We want him to understand why. We want people to understand why. Use this as a teachable moment. You have a guy that clearly likes to speak to his followers. He considers himself a leader to his followers. Educate him and then maybe he will educate his followers. But that's what it looks like this list is, though. This shit looks like give me half a million dollars. No, look- Do these other things? Let's break them down. Apologize, condemn me. And that first one, apologizing, condemn the movie. Like, has anybody even asked him, did he watch it? That's what I think. I don't think he watched it, Chief. I think he saw the title. And it said, from Hebrews and Negroes, Wake Up Black America. And he posted that. And that's the thing. I think that my personal opinion is that as especially black men, we need to learn how to practice restraint in some ways in regards to giving our opinions. Because as we can see that our opinions, when they're given in their, you know, in a spread, you know, nationwide or worldwide, whatever, it has some, for some reason, a much more detrimental effect than opinions of other people. So I think that a lot of times, everything is not for public consumption. Some stuff is for you to be, you know, some stuff is supposed to stay in the barbershop. Just for, until we get to a point where we can make a list like this for people who offend or make us feel any type of way about anything. I don't disagree with that at all. And also, but also too, if you're going to do, my thing is, at least, if you're going to do that, then at least have an opinion. So when you, like, when you tweet out a link with no context and then people go and watch the documentary, they might not even be thinking about what you're thinking about. What was the post? Can someone bring up the post? It was just, all you did was post the picture of the documentary from Hebrews and Negroes, Wake Up Black America. How am I supposed to know Kyrie posted this because he wants to- I mean, I don't post shit because I, I think now you're treating him like, what is it called? The bigotry of low expectations. It's like you post shit on your story because you promote it. When you post a show, you post a book, you post whatever. It's like, so I think it's fair to go, hey, I thought this was interesting. You guys might also find it interesting. But if the thing, if it's full of what they call anti-Semitic tropes, and it's full of dangerous rhetoric, and you posted it with no context, aren't you co-signing and promoting that? Yeah. Okay then. But you can't be mad at the reaction. You didn't give us no context. Oh, I thought you were saying the opposite. Yeah, I agree. I understand the reaction is really frustrating and scary, especially to the community that has seen these tropes be used to take their lives and remove them from countries throughout history. There's no question. I understand the concern there. What I'm looking at is how do you, how do you react to this in a way where it makes not only that person, but also the people that follow him feel like you actually care what they think. Well, let's go back to the demands. Go back to the demands. Yeah. Because we will have to copy and preach you. Apologize and condemn. Right? Apologize, condemn movie. All right. He already apologized. He already apologized. He condemned some parts of the movie. Yeah, the certain part. Well, he didn't apologize. That was the big issue. Oh, no, he did. He did. He did after. After. But that's where it became big. Like, the first thing was like, you know, just apologize. And he's like, I'm not going to apologize. Take responsibility. Well, he didn't say I'm not going to apologize. When they asked him, we can play the clip. When they asked him to apologize, he just simply said, I didn't mean to hurt anybody or something to that effect. He didn't say, I apologize. I'll take my responsibility for posting that. Some things that were questionable in there untrue. Like I said, and the first time you guys asked me when I was sitting on that stage, I don't believe everything that everybody posts. It's a documentary. So I'll take my responsibility. It seems like Adam sort of wanted to hear the word I apologize or in your mind, you said I didn't mean to cause any harm. Were you apologizing or not? I didn't mean to cause any harm. I'm not the one that made the documentary. What are these specific things in the documentary that you don't believe are true and that you don't? I think some of the criticism of the Jewish faith in the community, for sure. Some points made in there that were unfortunate. Literally, he could have been like, yo, I'm sorry, this shit is dead. But because he was fucking Kyrie and he's a stubborn fucking idiot, Jesus Christ. He is not using that language. He's an idiot. But I mean, but that's a perfect example of what we're talking about. You can say that Kyrie Irvin is an idiot. And, you know, that'd be fine. But something like this, you would never have to, if he was, he's an NBA player, he's a superstar. He still doesn't have the power to make you publicly apologize for calling him an idiot. Yeah, because I'm calling Kyrie Irving an idiot. He's not an idiot because he's black. He's an idiot because he's Kyrie. Kyrie will make sure to apologize. Kyrie coming in back. He coming in back, you know? How? You think he backed me down? I think he backed me out, bro. What's my record against point guards in the league, bro? Hey, hey, hey. You want to talk about Never Forget? J-Win was in the league, man. You will never forget. What is my record against point guards in the league? Kyrie says, Kyrie says Never Again. You'll be standing in the league. Yeah, you'll be standing in the league. I mean, I guarantee I get a bucket off Kyrie. 100%. Man, you are, you are always stanky leg, the line. Right there on the line. I don't know how y'all had made it, man. Yeah. Oh, go back, go back, go back. Between y'all, too, the shit that y'all say, Jesus. What do you mean? We haven't made it. I mean, y'all, y'all. What do you mean? I don't know. Y'all, y'all. They don't know we can park here. Y'all, y'all, y'all. That's right. Maybe y'all need to stay on the ground now. Maybe we need to stay on the ground. Maybe y'all need to stay on the ground, because boy, goodness gracious. Shoes ain't never got hit. I don't got a ass whipping. Oh, yeah, you got some real ass whipping. Hey, man. But I'm still here. Yeah, but you know who I'm saying. God got me, baby. Go back to the show. Go back to the man's. Tell her, please. I want to read. I want to read. We can't get past the first one. All right. $500,000 donation. Can I say what? I'm sorry. Can I say what? That should be at the end. Can I say one thing about the Apologizing Condemn movie? Yes. I don't want you to apologize and condemn the movie. I want to share information with you that maybe makes you feel like you on your own should apologize and condemn it. Me just telling you to apologize for some shit you might still believe in and agree with. What does that do? It's like a public display of bullshit. It's like when you see these Hollywood people all the time. If you have this information that can motivate this young guy into thinking differently about a scenario, then give it to him. But I think it's very important that when Kyrie got the opportunity to share what it was he was trying to convey, he did do that. He did tell people why he posted the doc. And I really think it was just based off the title from Hebrews the Negroes. What's the conversation, Chico, about the Black Israelites? Yeah, the Black Israelites and the 12 large tribes of Israel and the curse of Deuteronomy. It's a bunch of different theories. If you're from New York, you've seen the Israelites preaching this stuff on the corners for years. So I think that it's just like I said, it's the access to information that we have now. Whereas though, like you said in the 90s, you had the right letters and go to the library to get your information now. It's just so much of you opening up your phone that you can find whatever information you're looking for. But I mean, for him to have to apologize and condemn the movie, who made the movie? Oh, I know his name. I can't remember his name. Like, why is it now Kyrie Herving's job to condemn a movie that he didn't make? I can see if he made it. He did promote it though. And also if somebody tells you to apologize. Listen, you know how much I didn't promote it a lot of shit, but I shouldn't have to apologize. If you made a record that I liked and you said some shit in it, that was offensive to a group of people. Apologizing, condemning. Black men don't cheat. We don't. All right. And that is a power empowerment record. You were rolling on something? No, I mean, I understand what she came from. No, you didn't. I do. Because like Los is my partner. No, I'm serious. Los is my brother. It's my partner. So if black women were offended by that statement, why? Because I tweeted a link with him wearing the T-shirt. Should I have to apologize for some shit that is his whole mantra? He came up with it. He has the knowledge behind it. He would be able to explain it. So why should I have to be the person to apologize for that? Chico, I'm going to tell you something. I am not into telling the community what they should be offended by. But I will tell every black woman that they should not be offended by black men don't cheat. No, I mean, I don't think they... All right. That is a statement. They definitely aren't offended by it. And it is a decorative statement that we are making. Okay. Because not only are we saying black men don't cheat, we're saying black men don't cheat. Black men don't cheat. And I don't know how they could be upset at that. This is something for y'all. We made this to make y'all's lives better. I heard Carlos say that. And I'm like, yo, Carlos is right. We don't cheat. You know what I mean? Duvall wanted to make it a song. I'm like, yo, that's right. Yo, that's right. Black men don't cheat. Yes. That is a message to be elevated. It depends on what the comma is. That's all you got to do. You know what I mean? That's fire. Yeah. That's fire. And also too, when it came to condemning the movie, wow, there's another thing. Wow. What? That was fucking unbelievable. What? Black men don't cheat. Yeah, it's the comma. It's the placement of the comma. Oh, shit. How did you ever not know that's what it was? What the fuck? Because they don't want to hear us. That's the problem. Everybody's talking past each other. We're bearing off from all sides. We still haven't made a pass condemning the movie. OK, so listen. Condemning the movie. I'm going to tell you another thing, Kyrie. Possibly a misstep Kyrie did. He talked about how there's some things in the movie. He agreed with some things he didn't. He said some things that, you know, we're sad about Jewish people that he didn't agree with some things he did. The claims of anti-Semitism and who are the original chosen people of God? And we go into these religious conversations and it's a big no-no. I don't live my way like that. I don't live my life that way. Excuse me. I grew up in a melting pot. And I say a melting pot of all races. White, black, red, yellow, Jewish, Christian, Muslim. And you can see the way I live my life now. I'm not here to be divisive. So they could push their, I don't want to say they because I'm not identifying any one group of racist people. But I'm in a unique position to have a level of influence on my community. And what I post does not mean that I support everything that's being said or everything that's being done or I'm campaigning for anything. All I do is post things for my people in my community and those that it's actually going to impact. Anybody else that has criticism and obviously wasn't meant for them. She wasn't meant for them. You can't say that in a movie that's got this many anti-Semitic tropes. We got to be specific. Okay. You got to be specific. You got to be specific. He was dumb for doing that. Jesus Christ. Yo, Kyrie going to fuck you up. You don't call them an idiot twice dumb. I believe he's an idiot. Wow. Wow. I do genuinely. He thought the world, the earth was flat. Like he literally for a moment was, I got some friends that think the earth is flat. What the fuck is wrong with thinking anything. I got some people who I love, I got some people who I love that think the earth is flat. I believe it's the same person. Same person. So I mean like, what's wrong with things that I'm not going to do that? It don't matter who it is. No. It don't matter. No. It don't matter. Do I know now why your Hans Lander then started to say that down? No. No, I'm not telling you. When it started to swoop down. No, I'm not telling you nothing. But that's what I'm saying. What's wrong with thinking anything. I don't give a fuck what anybody thinks. Why are we so, I don't care what anybody thinks. Yeah, you do. Because if they thought some things that made you offended, you would be like, oh, this is a good one. You know how many people think shit that makes me up? Oh, I don't care. You're just thinking and it's fine. Yeah, you can think whatever you want to think. It's the actions behind the thought that makes it a problem. I'm going to tell you the problem with the thoughts. Yeah, yeah. Motherfuckers can share them now. That's the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're sitting around thinking and how you said the barbershop, that's conversations we used to have amongst each other. Yeah. That's fine. But boy, when you get on that social, we just thought sharing, sharing shit that you ain't even thought through yet. This is my take on Kyrie is that I think that he was taken advantage of young by the industry that he's in. And because of that, has closed his circle like crazy. I think his stepmother is his agent. That's very rare for an NBA player. So usually what happens, I think that also is what happened to Kanye. It's like he got taken advantage of by a lot of different people. I don't even want to put Kyrie and Kanye in the same scene. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, you guys have reached capacity on the Kanye conversation over here. And that's another reason that Kyrie ended up in this situation. Because of that. Because of the climate that Kanye created. Okay, okay. So back to, so I think what he's gone through. I mean, this guy was pro at 19 years old. Like he's definitely had corporations and people probably trying to extract money from him has a crazy distrust. And because of that, once you start to trust nobody, any information is available to you could be right. If you don't trust the people that are closest to you, which has happened to him in his life, then you're like, who else is lying to me? Are they lying to me about the world being flat? Maybe. Let me watch this video. Are they lying to me about who I am as a person? Maybe. Let me watch this video. There's information out there. So I have empathy for Kyrie. His circle is so small. And when sometimes your circle is so small, you have nobody in your circle to go, hey, you're doing some things that are not really beneficial for you. Because of them thoughts. So what you're going to say when I'm at home by myself thinking. Yeah. Ain't nobody going to stop me from doing this. And that's your right. Just because the truth is subjective in my opinion. Because what's true to me is a lie to somebody else. What I believe somebody else is going to say, that's bullshit. You know what I mean? So you can't condemn anybody for their belief system. You only can condemn them when they offend the wrong people with their belief system. That's just it. You're allowed to think whatever you want to think. Kyrie can think whatever the fuck he wants to think. He a grown man. I know I think that we have a problem now today we're trying to make people think the way we think or have our perspective. That's bullshit. Like that. But some thoughts are dangerous. You say what? Some thoughts are dangerous. Some thoughts are dangerous when you put them into the world. That's right, that's right. But my ability to be able to have the perspective that I want if I keep it right here and I just whatever I feel as long as I don't I have the restraint enough not to do it publicly because I know now we live in a time where information travels so much faster. You can't be mad at nobody for thinking anything. Whatever somebody believes is what they believe. Allow them to believe. And then it's just the social construct that makes you believe okay well if this person says this then they're wrong. If you believe the earth is flat square I don't give a fuck what shape it is. I'm just glad I'm on it. Yeah, that's my perspective. You know what I mean? I saw something the other day they said the earth is the shape of a dick. Really? Yeah. I mean hey. So that mean we all riding a dick. Yo, I knew I liked it. Like this is the point that I'm making. I knew I enjoyed it. You said I can think. Chico, you said I can think. You said you can think. Bro, this is the point that I'm making. I'm making. It's fired, bro. Bro, that's what I'm saying. This is the point that I'm making. I've been around this nigga for years. Yeah, in this wild ass shit. So what? I still, my man, I still fuck with it. I got a real question like is that why the ocean's so salty though? Now, now what the? Hold on, bro. That was offensive to diabetics. That was offensive to the diabetic community. I've been told that salty jokes are offensive. Like this shit is ridiculous, man. Like that we even end up here with these conversations. This is crazy. I do want to say too, the reason I don't. We're still on number one. Yeah, real quick before we get to number two. The reason I refuse to put Kyrie and Kanye in the same bracket is because Kyrie Irving loves black people. Kanye West does not. Geez, now, right. That's right. Why are you going to say Kanye West don't love black people? I ain't yo, bro. I'm the hashtag Katie was right. You niggas are having a nasty, nasty ass conversations over here, man. All right. $500,000 donation to anti-hate causes. He did that. They gave him the money back. What does that do? I don't know. No, I need a hand towel. This is the one that confuses me. Can I ask you a question? Yes, go ahead. So does that mean if I want to watch the video, I can just pay $500,000? What do you mean? Are you telling me right here I can watch the video publicly tweet it if I just have enough money? Well, no, we're getting to the part. What you were saying about the information and teaching somebody, we're getting to that. No, no, no. I'm saying right now they're like, yo, apologize and pay $500,000. So now if I want to, you just put a price on me enjoying and agreeing with the video. That's a little different because it says to anti-hate causes. That's right. It doesn't specifically say, because from what I understand, what is it, the ADL? I think they rejected his initial $500,000. I saw that after they didn't like his apology. So if you reject the money, then I guess that means that he can take that half a million dollars and donate it to anything he wants to donate it to. And I'm sure that there's plenty of people who would love that money. I'm sure Dr. Umar Johnson would love to get that money for FD. I forget the rest of the letters, but you know what I'm talking about. Frederick Douglass, Marcus Garvey, school that he's building. So if that is a part of it, then that's the one part that I agree with. Take that half a million dollars and if he gives it to a cause that's beneficial to black people and then he's condemned for that, then that lets you know it's a problem. By the way, Karee donated a lot of the money to black people. Of course, he's done a lot. He's done so much that, you know. And then it's like- I knew that before that meme started going around. You know what I mean? Because I hate that from people in other organizations. Right. If he's quiet about it, then that's another thing that we live in. It's like nowadays, if you don't post the social media, the positivity that you do, it never happens. Nobody's going to talk about it. Nobody will talk about it. Not just like me, too. I think Native American communities don't need to. You know what I mean? If you don't go on social media, it didn't happen. So because he's, you know, humble enough to do all of these great social acts without letting the world know when he finally does something that the world does get a hold of, that's immediately brushed to the side because that's like the gift and the curse of social media because you don't want to put your, helpful acts on line. But if you don't, then people will just be able to act like you never did it as soon as they get mad at you about something. These are the two that confuse me. We're getting to the list. Sensitivity training and anti-Semitic training are third and fourth. What's the difference? Because sensitivity training, to me, sounds like something that is widespread. Anti-Semitic training is specific to the Jewish community. Well, I'm going to say, why would he need widespread sensitivity training? Because you, I mean, that's just what comes with being, you know, in this position, I guess, you know, you, you, if you're deemed to be a person who is an idiot, as this motherfucker, keep calling them like if you get... I never call them an idiot. R. Chico, I know you ain't about to fall for that, Chico. I just look at them, and I've been around here for years. And I've been thinking the whole time, I've been like, I was thinking like, do I really want to come up here? Fuck with these two motherfuckers, man. Like because I y'all my guys, but it's just like, I know what I'm walking into. I've done this so many times yet. Here we are, man, all the way. No, but Chico's point, like, you know, when you have a platform or stature as large as Kyrie Irvin, there is a balance, right? Like, to your point about thoughts, when you got that kind of platform, man, you can put certain things out there, bro. I could tilt shit this way or tilt shit that way. So you do need sensitivity training. I don't know what that looks like, but I was just having a conversation with one of my OGs this week, and he was talking about that. He was talking about the sensitivity you have to have in moments like this. Especially in today's time, because information travels so fast, the attention span is 15 to 60 seconds now. You know what I mean? So, you know, I think this is, this is, you know, going on now, but eventually this will, you know, I think, what is it? November now, by March. Just more people won't even be having this. Before that era, before that. Way before that, you know, depending on what Karey decides to do, because I saw some stuff floating around that said he was gonna retire, which was bullshit. But I mean, I think that whatever decision he chooses to make will, you know, determine how long this is a thing. If you look at Colin Kaepernick, that has lasted, you know, way longer than it would have if he would have just, you know, I guess went and did whatever they demanded him to do. You know, I think the fact that he chose to go another route is what stretched it out and made him a martyr in a way because he, you know, he died in front of everybody as far as his career at least. He was, you know, crucified as career-wise because he refused to stand up, you know what I mean? And I think that if Karey doesn't meet these demands and it'll last a whole lot longer. By the way, I haven't seen nothing on this list that we can't do. We? Yeah. $500,000 donation. I can't do that. I'm gonna go ahead and let you know how I have. No, no, no, no, no. $500,000 to donate to anybody. No. I'm gonna let these two rich motherfuckers that they can do that. I'm just saying. I'm gonna do the shows. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. No, I'm saying to somebody in social community. Apologize, right? Condemn what they said. Half a million dollar donation to a black organization or a black cause. Sensitivity training, which I think a lot of people need in regards to just any dealing with race, men needed in regards to dealing with women, straight people needed in regards to dealing with gay people. Like, that's fine. Antisemitic training. Man, everybody. A lot of us need that. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because a lot of people will say to me, man, I watched that documentary. Ain't nothing antisemitic on it. Exactly. And that's why you need to shut the fuck up. Yes. That's why people keep stepping on landmines. Because you don't even know what's considered antisemitic. You can't determine what's offensive. Why did they do this publicly? Like, it just seems like such a, like a virtue signal. Like, if I'm the owner of the team, I go. It was the offense was public. Yeah. But still, if I'm the owner of the team, I go, hey, we're meeting with private, privately with Kyrie to discuss these matters. Obviously, there's a lot of people hurt and offended. And we've been talking to Kyrie. And Kyrie feels, if he does. You don't quiet the noise like that, Schultz. But let me just get that out. If Kyrie does feel remorseful for hurting people, which he, I think he did say, he said he felt bad for hurting people. Absolutely. Absolutely. So we just want to discuss it internally. Have the fucking discussion internally first. Now, if Kyrie is rejecting that, that's another issue where you're paying a guy $30 million a year. He won't even come in for a meeting. That's a different, like, you still are an employee of a, of an organization. You've agreed to that contract. But like, I would personally bring him in, say, hey, listen, there's some people here. They just want to tell you why this information is false, why it's offensive. Like, we don't want to make this a big whole public thing. After getting that information, what do you think the best way to move forward is? Treat him like an adult. This is treating one someone like an infant. Apologize, condom. Meet with these people. Six o'clock, you have to be here. It's, to me, it's like infantalizing. I mean, you're going to have to meet with them anyway. Right? But why do you? You just talked about a meeting. But what this is, this is the nets looking out for the nets. This is looking out for the NBA and not looking out for a young man. But that's why you clearly is confused and you could maybe offer him some help. I agree with that. But that's what that's what that's what the last thing is. The last thing is meet with ADL Jewish leaders and meet with Josiah. Meet with Josiah. Understand. Meet with your boss? That's that's that's the part that is the most confusing to me on the whole list. Meet with Josiah to demonstrate understanding what makes Josiah the most understanding person that you have. That is true. Like, how does me let it go into all of these different things? Josiah's from China. He met Jewish people five years ago. You know what I mean? Like, like, He's from Taiwan. Sorry, almost. Don't don't shit on that. That's Chris's hood. Yeah. You heard Chris. Chris, you know that shit like Brooklyn. Taiwan. Eat from that. Eat from Taiwan. Like, I'm just Is there a flourishing Jewish population in Taiwan, Chris? There you're getting there. I go through all of these different. I meet all of these demands. And then finally, my final boss or my final test, to beat the game and get back in the good standing of the organization is to meet with my owner and demonstrate that I understand what. Not now. Not now. This is when we got to look at it from the macro perspective. Meeting with Josiah don't really got nothing to do with this. Just got to do it all. The other stuff Kyrie has been doing since she's been with the next. Yeah, but why do you even need to put it there? You're the boss. Tell your employee to come to the office privately. Right. And that part, Kyrie, don't talk to him. I don't know. Well, then if your employee is not talking to you, then you can suspend your employee for that or you can do some sort of disciplinary action. But like adding that to it, it just seems like they're virtue signaling. It seems like, hey, throw that in here, because I want people to know that me, Josiah, I'm a good guy. Yeah. And everybody needs to know that we're going to punish that bad guy instead of teaching a young man. What am I demonstrating the understanding of? All of the things on this list or demonstrating the understanding of what the next feel like. And I just want to say this, and I'm saying this from friends of mine who are Jewish that reacted to this. They didn't like it because what they said is this is going to create more animosity for the Jewish community. It is. And literally, every one of my Jewish friends said the exact same thing. They're like, listen, there's a better way to go about it. Why don't we educate him? Why don't we ask him if he's willing to come to the Holocaust Museum? And that's what I thought it was. I thought you had to go to the Holocaust Museum. You taking that trip to Israel? That's far. Israel's far. There you go to the museum. Do you know what I mean? They don't got to go all the way there to go to the museum. You can go to. Not that you got to do both, bro. That's a lot. Back in the day, they used to have to do both. Oh, really? Now it's gotten softer. It's called Nick, man. Nick went on the field trip. Oh, Nick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, I guess my point is like it. I'm glad he did. I'm glad he did, too. But if the Jewish, even the Jewish community that I'm speaking to on a regular basis is like, yo, this is kind of creating a lot of anti-Jewish sentiment. To your point? No. Which is not the goal. So you could speak on. Chris Moro was Jewish. He said, come here, Chris. Get on the mic, Chris. It just creates division. What did you say, Chris? It creates animosity. It creates resentment instead of understanding, which is what we need. And again, I'm speaking for Chris Moro, not for anybody else right now. But the ADL exists to be in the middle of situations like this. This is its job, right? So on the scale. So you mean like mediator or what do you mean when you say? I don't want to say drum stuff up, because Kyrie started it. But as an organization, it's there to kind of react to stuff like this. So of course, they're going to come with the strongest reaction. I mean, they are the anti-deflamation league. I'm just saying in the big picture, did Kyrie make a mistake? Yes. Should you just apologize and kept it moving? Yes. I get uncomfortable when I see this bullet point of listen. I especially get uncomfortable when I see money. Like it feels, I don't want to say it's a shakedown, but it feels like give us 500 grand. And yeah, what does that do? They gave it back to him though. They said we don't want it when he decided not to apologize. Yeah, they gave it back to him. I guess I guess I agree with what you're saying. I think there's a better way to go about now. He did some dumb shit. He didn't immediately apologize for it. He didn't at least try to have some understanding and he like kind of stuck his foot down. So you're going to get resentment from the community you offended. Let's say that there's somebody who offended black people and they're like, why don't you just apologize and condemn the thing you said? And he's like, I'm responsible for it, but I don't necessarily apologize. You're like, man, fuck this guy. I understand the reaction. I mean, but if he didn't have the understanding in the time that he made it, this all happened so quickly. Yeah. You know what I mean? It happened so quickly. So when they initially asked him about it, he may have had a difference of opinion. Might have been feeling defensive. You know what I mean? He might have felt this way, but as a human being, I mean, but right. But he was being accosted in that regard like, hey, man, what do you think about this? Or it is this. And if I haven't even watched the documentary at that point, which I probably don't think that, I don't think that he had watched it fully at that point. And then, you know, you like, you know what, maybe, let me go look at this shit because they seem to be pretty upset about it. And then you go watch it and then you see, okay, they said in the document, I haven't seen it, but they said it was, you know, they denied the Holocaust. It's like, that's, I mean, we know that that occurred. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, even no matter what your thought process is, you're like, okay, that's like somebody saying slavery didn't happen. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. That's the biggest deal. Everything in there, that's the one. Yeah. So it's like, of course. And you can see why that be so upset. Chris, you watched the whole thing, right? I watched like 20 minutes of it. But also too, man, you ain't going to get far reposting documentaries that quote in Hitler and Henry Ford, bro. It's barely a documentary, man. It's like, it's three hours. But the quality, this is not like something that deserves all this kind of like debate and analysis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He put something out there. He shouldn't have put out there. He could have just walked it back. This would have been over a week ago. He won, I think he wants to be the guy who he thinks is standing up for something. Yeah. I don't even think it's that serious. I really think he, I think the title is going into the conversation about the, who's the original Jewish people. And he feels like Black people and Jewish people too. And he posted that because of the title. From He Rues the Negroes, Wake Up Black America. He does this all the time. It's like he wants to be part of a larger conversation. That's okay. I think a lot of times what happens is when you do something for a living that is seemingly, and we can fall into this, some people feel is dumb, right? Like bouncing a basketball and shooting it might not be seemingly as important as, I don't know, give me a fucking, give me a job that's like really important. Social activists. Social activists, exactly. Like, so then you go, you go, oh, what am I doing to make the world better? When the reality is, is like, there's no fucking rules to this. Like, you know, you know what it is, show. What is that? She gonna know what it is too. Everybody want to be Muhammad Ali? Yeah. If you're an athlete, and you know, especially in the times that we've been in over the past five, six years, everything from Black Lives Matter, watching what Colin Kaepernick did, everybody wants to be that kind of martyr. And you feel guilty that you're not doing enough. You're making all this money. Your community is still hurting. You're like, how can I help? And I'm tired of y'all preparing for Ali. I say as Black people, it's unfortunate that that's the only platform that we've been given to even get to a mass enough scale to where we can impact our people that way. It's athletics and entertainment. Entertainment. You know what I mean? So it's not that everybody wants to be Muhammad Ali. We only had Muhammad Ali. We haven't had anybody to go to that extent to where we can say, oh, well, I'd rather be this person. What do you mean by that? I mean, as far as the people who have been given the opportunity to be able to, you know, go to that level as far as Muhammad Ali did, the stance that he took. The people have made the change. They've made the change. Oh, yeah, like Martin Luther King, Malcolm S. I mean, but that's over the years. I mean, I'm talking about just in athletics. In athletics and entertainment. Outside of that, we haven't seen anybody do what Muhammad Ali has done in that regard. Maybe, yeah, Ali might be the bar, but you definitely had like the Bill Russells of the world. I mean, yeah, but they didn't give up their careers the way, like that's what you say. You just said that everybody wants to be Muhammad Ali. That's true. In my mind, when you say that, that means that everybody wants to be the person that's willing to sacrifice everything. He was willing to go to jail. He lost all his titles. That's right. He lost his money. He didn't fight for five years. And never switched the message. He never made it about it. Never changed none of that. I'm upset. I'm not boxing. You know what I mean? Y'all should boycott boxing. Never did none of that. Kept it on message. Yeah, we've only been given that example one time. And it's not that, you know, that's wrong because who the fuck should have to give up their whole career to prove a point? I think that's... Somebody who's trying to prove a point? Yeah, I mean... Because as soon as you do that, you know the risk. You know the risk that comes with that. I mean, right, but you know, you also know that it's a very rare chance of you getting into a position to be able to change your lot, your family's dynamic. And you know, we don't have a blueprint of success most of the time in our community. So I think it's unfair that we as Black people have to finally get one person that makes it and gives our family some stability or be able to give back to the community. And now it's like, all right, give it all up to prove a point. That's tough, you know what I mean? You know, to what Chico is saying is so true. That's why your circle is very important. Because the reality of the situation is... Like you said, if Kyrie want to have those thoughts, cool. But whoever he's getting that information from should say to him, all right, though. We don't need you going public with this. Yeah. And then we don't need you taking these stances because we need you to be you because we know that you're making these hundreds of millions of dollars and you're putting it back where it needs to be in the Black community. Everybody got a role. You know what I'm saying? Everybody got a role. Let people play their role. But that's... Yeah. That you make a really interesting point. Well, you both are making about the Ali situation. Like him not doing it for himself. Him not asking for any punitive damages to the organization. Like him keeping it on task. That's it. Keeping it on message. And it's so rare that you have somebody... Okay, this never happens in history. That the most devastating fighter... And we're not talking about MMA at the time. We're talking about boxing, right? So at that moment in time, people are like, if you're the best boxer, you're the most devastating human on the planet. The most dangerous human on the planet is also the most charismatic human on the planet. It's unbelievable. It's also... Unbelievable. God gave him so much. An activist that doesn't care about losing it. God gave him so much. And think about it. It's like... God gave Ali so much, bro. Yo, but here's where I truly believe that he believes in God. Because when you come from not a lot and then you get something, you're holding on to it. You're like, I can't lose. Are you kidding me? My family relies on me. All these people rely on me. What if I lose it? You got to have an underworldly faith that this is destiny to go all these people. Don't worry. We're going to be fine. That is fucking rare, man. Yeah. And, you know, also to that point, now you know why people want to be connected to something. Because even if it's not you, it's your family. You're like, if you stop working, there are people in your family, I imagine. Oh, don't imagine. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So, so... Right. Tico stop working, Chancellor Christmas. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yes. So, so, so it's like, I feel that way too is like, it's bigger than us. So to stop working for a greater goal, knowing full well you're making these people potentially vulnerable, you got to have unbelievable faith. Yeah. And not only do you have to have unbelievable faith, the people who you're talking about have to have unbelievable faith in you. Ooh. You understand? And that's the harder part to establish. You know what I mean? When you have to gain that level of trust with your people and say, hey, trust me. That's right. I'm moving this way. And I guarantee you that everything is going to be okay. That means that they are, they trust you enough to know that whatever comes, you're big enough and you're strong enough to be able to shield them from the, whatever comes from your actions and your, you know, decision making. So I think that's something that, you know, like I said in Kyrie's case, if he really feels himself to be in that mode, as you said, then I think that, you know, kudos to him. If he takes that stance, because that's a bold stance to take. I want to go back to something you said shows about, you know, the animosity that is brewing, right? Because nobody wants to see, you know, Kyrie go through this. There's two parts to that, right? Y'all know me. I'm on record and saying, you can't tell somebody how to react. You know what I'm saying? If you offend somebody, you do something to somebody, how they react is how they react. We can all say, man, you going too far, but it's easy for us to say when we not in that position. Because I know, man, I'll take that checklist any day for 19 out of 20 times when it comes to these white supremacists. There's so many people that have offended black people over the years. I would love to see them have to go through this kind of checklist. So I'm not going to sit here and say, hey, man, I think that is too far. I'm never going to tell somebody how to react. But there is, I'm glad Nick Cannon and the CEO of the ADL, Jonathan Greenblatt, had a conversation. Because to me, that's where, you know, true healing begins between these two communities. If the healing is needed and necessary. And the reason I say that is because... Because it did feel like there was this brewing... It still feels like that now. Between Jews and black people. That's right. That's right. And it's a lot of people starting... They believe the rhetoric that they're hearing about Jewish people. And so it's just like, yo, let's have the conversation before it gets too far. Because I've certainly believed that we got more in common than we do differences. You know what I mean? And I think it's going to start with those conversations. So it was just good to even see... I haven't seen the interview yet because I don't know if it's out yet. I just saw the clip that Nick put online. And I reposted it. But from that two, three minute conversation, it looks like it's going to be productive. I agree. And I think that more conversations need to happen like that from both sides. Because I think it needs to be a level of understanding of why black people are so frustrated in this country. Because the things that happen to us, happen to us here. You know what I mean? And we haven't gotten any reparations as they say, or there's been no reconciliation for the things that have happened to African-American people on this soil. You know what I'm saying? And we constantly are used as an example to what needs to be done better. But we are never used as an example of what could be done better for us. That's right. You know what I mean? We never put up in this like, hey, look what we did to better improve this community. Everywhere you go in America, there's a Chinatown. There's a little Italy. There's all of these different communities. We just have the ghetto. And Chico, we act like we don't be trying to model ourselves after those communities. We have these conversations. I want to, man, we should be doing it like the Asians do it. We should be doing it like the Jewish people do it. We have these conversations. But we also are not given the opportunities to go and utilize the system in the way that other people are able to utilize the system. Are we not though? No, we're not. Because you got to understand how far back we are in regards to just looking at something like financial literacy, right? If you're the first person in your family to actually come into some money with most other people, you have something that you can directly go to to help you understand that money that you've got. We don't, we have to search for that as Black people because we don't have anybody that looks like us, one, and that we're comfortable with because, you know, Black people, we do now though. I mean, now we do. I would agree with you maybe 10, 15 years ago, right now, us, our generation, I don't think we have those excuses. I feel that way. What do you mean? The exact thing that you described. Because you didn't come from money? No, I mean, I got very easy, incredibly privileged, grow, you know, travel grown up. Not what you're doing now. Your parents weren't doing what you're doing now. And my parents owned a dance studio. They taught partner dancing, you know, but they made some really cool, awesome decisions. My mom was fucking great. But I, we, they were essentially financially literate. They never taught me about like stocks or any of these types of things. Like I didn't know about that kind of stuff. So I'm so insecure when talking about that stuff. And I'm terrified when even talking to like business managers because I don't want to pretend that I don't know what I'm talking about. But at the same time, I don't want to be so vulnerable that I'm like, hey, do whatever you guys want. Right. So I have no, you know, so I'm asking my friends, my friends help me, but I relate to that. Like that is a generational thing. There are certain, my friends are like, we're investing when they're fucking teenagers. Right. And just what you said, you know, you said your dad and mom know in the dance studio, my mother was a custodian and a security guard and my father was dead. So you think about how many people fault, that look like me, they come from where I come from. That that's their reality. So where do you start? Like, where do you even start? We have to, I'm creating the blueprint as I go. So where did you start? That's why I hate comedians. Why? Because comedians can take hard lefts and they do such a deadpan delivery. And you're like, what am I supposed to do with that? The same thing I did to it with it. Nigga, make it work. The fuck wrong with you? What are you supposed to do with it? Luckily for you, they're getting the cars, they're getting the cars out of you. And all you're doing is fighting the cowboy games and shit. Like, nigga, you didn't have that be your reality. You weren't supposed to do anything with it, nigga. Like, it was my job to do something with it. That's what I'm saying. Like, I had to make something of the reality. And I'm an example now that I can utilize myself as an example for people who come from my background and go through what I've been through to be an example. So I'm curious, like, how do you start to make money? Like, one, how do you make sure that all your deals are right? Who are you going to? Who are you talking about? I mean, you don't, you get, you know, you get blessed with people. Yeah, you get blessed with people like my manager over there. Like, she's a godsend for me because she grew up in the industry. So she understands certain terminologies and lingoes that I had no knowledge. You have to establish trust. That's it. That's the biggest thing. The lack of trust. This is what's so interesting to me is that you have to establish trust and then imagine one of those people that you trust. Obviously, all of this would not happen with you. But screws you over. And multiple people that you trust screw you over. What do you do? You've got to keep going. You've got to keep pushing. You've got to keep going and learn from that mistake. But what do a lot of people do? They make their circle incredibly tiny. Oh, I still do that. Yeah. What I'm trying to do is describe what I think happened at Kyrie, which is everybody's out here trying to give you a deal. Everybody's trying to help you out. And all of a sudden, you can screw it over by one thing. You're not getting what you want over here. You're not giving the opportunity over there. And you're vulnerable to what's going on. I think Kyrie came from decent background, right? As far as I'm not, I don't know. I really don't know anything about Kyrie except football. But I guess what I'm saying is I understand, even personally, the vulnerability I would feel if I put my trust in you in something that I'm telling you I don't fucking know about. And then I find you took advantage of me? I wouldn't trust nobody after that. Or maybe Kyrie's just learning new information, man. He's trying to find a knowledge yourself. I'm trying to have that for the guy believing the fucking earth is flat and for believing these documents. I have the best to like... I love all my flat earth friends, okay? You just have a debate about the earth being flat and keep moving. I'm not trying to convince nobody. I don't know what the earth is. And that's the biggest thing that nobody ever wants to say, I don't fucking know. No, that's my favorite thing to say is I don't know. No, no, no. I have no clue, bro. Because I'm not, I'm not... I know. How do you know? I know. How do you know? It's round. How do you know anything? I know it's round. Think about the reality of that. How... The most of the information that you have comes from somebody else who got the information and reciprocated it to the world. So how do you ever really know anything? Is it round like a ball or round like the head of the bottle? Stop, stop, stop. I was gonna say the head of the bottle, Chico. Because you know you... What do you mean? You, man. You, bro. Now I believe the stock with the bullshit, man. It's round like that. Nobody, that's another thing. I was gonna say the head of the bottle, Chico. You know another thing that most people never do. This is a... Say you to fucking stop, man. You just say these niggas come sit beside you and just let you just say all of this just outlandishly. Pause worthy shit. And don't say nothing. This is ridiculous. Yo, I'm a paul durfer. No. Pfft. You see what I'm saying? It's ridiculous, man. It's non-stop, Chico. Now look what you've made his haws long to do. You made her go full. You made his shit go full German right there, man. It's ridiculous. Oh, flip it back. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What the fuck was that, Chico? Oh, no, bro. You are going to make so many conspiracy theories come. I got to pull it back. They're going to put horns on that shit, bro. Flip it back, man. I help my guys out. Cover them up. Oh, man. Dude, that was crazy, though. But we don't pause here. We fast forward, Chico. No, listen. That's right. We fast forward. Because when you pause, you want to see. When you pause, you're like, yeah, keep it right there. Exactly. You pause because you stop right there. We're trying to get to the next point. The fact that I know that you have had an in-depth conversation about that point right there is the problem. Man, what are you describing with this? This you. If we are good, this is what I mean. This is exactly what I mean. This is the point that I'm making. Y'all do this shit all the time. You know what? Oh, my God, man. Whoever's constructing this studio, let's just stop and keep it here. Oh, man. I don't want to see it happen. I don't want to see my eyes on a list like this. Like, it's coming. You think so? No, I mean, I think you might be. What's yours is white, so it's different. Yeah, I think it's my best. He has a. I'm allowed to be more gay. He has a. Yes, you are. Dude, white people are more gay. Yes, you are. I mean, you are definitely allowed to. What do they say? The complexion for protection. I'm always not. You're working your way towards that, Chico. You're working your way towards having that complexion. You going through the process. You know what I mean? You're gay. He's trans black. Now they got like skin, bro. You have become more gay. I've been gay. You know what you are? Say what? I've been gay like the ointment. You know what I'm saying? You know, nah. Being gay like the ointment? You know what you are? That's a bar. 21 status of that. It is. It is. But I just realized that. Being gay like the ointment? You are. You are trans dark skin. That is fast facts, bro. I'm offended. Yeah, you should be. But I'm just saying there's different levels of things that happen over here. That would be funny if you weren't trans, dark skin people would be protesting outside Chico's show. Listen, please stop. Man, let's pay some bills. Moral of the story is, man, we just got to fix this shit, man. More conversations between everybody. Yes, more conversations. More conversations, especially black people with Jewish people. Let's do it. Today's episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform for building your brand and growing your business online. Stand out beautiful websites. 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So make sure if you don't already have tickets for that, go do that. I love the fact that one, that's my boy. He's also my favorite fighter. So to have him in my city, you know, I want to make sure that this is an absolutely amazing event. So, Izzy, my own boy, Rob Redd loves Izzy because he's a big UFC MMA guy. Who? Uh, my boy, his name is Redd. Oh, yeah. He loves it. He was, he literally asked me to have Mondays. Is Izzy coming this week? I'm like, Izzy. Could I forgot? Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah. Well, after he whoops his guy's ass, you should definitely have him on, man. I'd love to have him on. But now, Izzy's the man. Make sure you watch this fight. And he fights in, I think, the most entertaining style, especially for MMA, if you're not as familiar with all the grappling stuff. So his background is kickboxing, Muay Thai. So it's tons of striking. He's going up against a guy who's also a prolific striker and it's just going to be an amazing card. Go out there, get it, support him. He's a fucking great dude. Chico, got any church numbers? Shoals? Yeah, plenty of them, man. I met the Fox Woods Casino coming up, man. And then Wilberthead. Not this weekend, next weekend. The Wilberthead in Boston. Amazing. Yeah, I met the Wilberthead in Boston. I'm excited about that too because I've never done Boston by myself before. Every time I went, it was, you know, either a while or now that we did the 85 up there. But, you know, Boston to me is, you know, a mecca of comedy. Absolutely. So many greats that came out of Boston. So, you know, I'm just excited to go on up there and work. And of course, you know, we got the 85. We in Milwaukee, Thursday, Chicago, Saturday. Where are you guys over there? I mean, I just want to see you guys do these. You're doing a read-us. Yeah, we had the Windtrust. The Windtrust. Yeah, we had the Windtrust Arena. Fucking podcast. Dude, it's so good of a base, bro. You know, we got that coming up. And then, you know, I got a new year show that I'm excited about with D-Ray in Chicago or another one in Chicago. That's hometown. Erick Brown, Erick Brown Theater, man. So, you know, we got a bunch of stuff coming up. We got something special with the 85 in Atlanta in December as well. So, you know, I love that show. Check out the 85 South Show Live, man. Best thing smoked, man. What you guys do is incredibly unique for a live show. Right. I mean, there are components of it that I don't think you see anybody else doing. Yeah, I have ever done in that regard, you know what I mean? Like just being able to get on stage and, you know, have three people who individually do the same thing but share the spotlight in that regard. We have chemistry together. Yeah. Music. It's really like... Incorporation of other artists, you know what I mean? All different types of stuff. And the crowd. Yeah, and the crowd. I love to see you guys working the crowd. And I mean, it's like... That's one of the most impressive things because, like, the bigger the crowd get, it still feels like y'all make it seem intimate. I don't know how the fuck y'all do that. Dude, I mean, just because it's, you know, people are intimately involved with, you know, just the whole product. And then you have all different types of people who are there that are there to specifically feel like they're a part of them. Part of the show. You know what I mean? And I think that's one of the biggest draws to us is that we, you know, utilize the fact that we don't stage with each other. We talk shit about each other. We joke on each other. We have fun. We talk about everything. So when you come, you're a part of... Like, you come in here to separate yourself from everything that's going on outside. And you come in here, you're free to do and say whatever you want to do and say why you're here with us. And then it just creates a great experience. I mean, like when I was growing up, I mean, I'm probably, I might be a little older than you, but I remember seeing the Kings of Comedy in the movie theater when it first came out. And we were fucking dying laughing. This is before I was probably too young to have a real idea of like what stand-up exactly was. And I thought in that moment, I was like, these guys are just making everything up on the spot. And that was the expectation that I had for myself. I was like, I have to be this funny. These guys can be this funny, just kind of riffing. And I think that every generation has like their kings especially in each like circuit that exists in comedy. And I've told you guys this before individually, but like, I think you guys are generations Kings, man. Oh, well, that's a compliment, man. And then you know, because I look at it like, imagine if the Kings of Comedy would have done that. And then at the end of the show, they all came out together and did it. That's a whole nother movie, you know what I mean? So I think that's the element that we've incorporated. But they kind of did that a little bit though. But there were moments in the Kings. There were moments when they were playing cards. And they were playing cards like that's something to see. And I think that's something that we utilize. But you're right, you do have each generation has their kings. And that's crazy that you say you watched them and thought that you had to be that funny. Like, because that's how I didn't know I wanted to be a comedian or I was going to be one. But I grew up in D.C. watching Earthquake. Like that was my person, you know what I mean? Like that I watched. And I'm thinking that he making all this shit up right there. Right in the spot. And I'm like, this is how funny. Not Donald Rollins? Donald Rollins was no influence to you? I mean, later. Why do you constantly throw Donald Rollins? Like, what did he do to you, bro? Donald, you're amazing. Like, I fuck with Donald. Donald, my God. Amazing. I'm going to tell a story about Donald. Donald hit me with the Hollywood shit one time. No. True story. So we shot a show called Guy Court together, right? I remember Guy Court. You remember Guy Court? Yeah, he was a judge. Yeah, he was a judge on Guy Court. So I'm out in LA. And when I'm out in LA, I walk up. I'm like, man, what's up with you, bro? He like, and walk off. I'm like, damn, so you don't remember me? He see me talking to somebody else. He came back and was like, oh, yeah, yeah. My bad, bro. I thought you was somebody else. But ever since then, every time I see him, I always remind him of that same thing with DJ. You told me that. That's why I give him hell all the time. No, that's not the reason why you give him hell all the time. You just give him hell all the time. Because you like to give him. Embi never remembers me. Like, this is what he does. Embi never remembers me, man. Every time I see Embi, what's your name again, bro? Hey, man, yeah. Good luck in your career, bro. I appreciate you. Every time I see him, why I'm excited to come see you out of the bar and talk some shit back. Because it's nigga, I'ma see if you remember me tomorrow when I'm by myself. That's right. My church now has been simple. Make sure you pick up summer 85. Chris Moreau was here. Summer of 85 is the latest project for me and Kevin Hart's S.B.H. productions that Audible tells the story of the bombing of the Move Organization in Philadelphia and, you know, the live aid concert that happened that summer in Philadelphia. Make sure you go grab that. Thank you to everybody who's already grabbed it. In Hell of a Week, new episode this Thursday, 11.30 p.m. on Comedy Central. This week we got Ida Rodriguez, my man Neil Brennan, and D.L. Hugley is all one-on-one conversation. Oh, that's an announcement. What? What is it called? Church announcement. Neil Brennan's got a new special on Netflix. Yes. Everybody go check out Blocks on Netflix. I've seen it. It's fucking hilarious. And I think you guys really enjoy it. And Neil funny as fuck. He's great. And he's been funny. Neil's been funny since that. Three Mikes is one of my favorite comedy specials. I still haven't seen anybody do what he did on Three Mikes because Three Mikes was his tweets, yeah, things he tells his therapist, and then just jokes. Jokes, yeah. Like, that shit is great. I haven't seen Blocks yet. Him and Shepard made a great partnership. They did some dope shit. They really did, man. That's an understatement. All the way. All the way. I mean some amazing shit together, man. Once again, black man, white man. Yeah. I don't think Neil's Jewish, right? He's not Jewish, is he? No. Yeah, black man. I'm just saying still. Listen, nobody's perfect, bro. Yeah. What? Some guy here. Some guy here, man. Some guy here. Some guy here. So fucking great, man. But no, black man, white man come together, make something great. I think that we are fucking keeping ourselves from making dope shit because it feels like all of us are getting so goddamn tribal. You know what I mean? And there's nothing wrong with being tribal with your tribe having your people, but don't, man, just don't insulate yourself from like being able to build with other folks. Don't just assume you know what somebody else is on. Absolutely. I agree with that. I mean, I think that you can, you know, you can make magic with anybody who makes magic. You know what I mean? Yes, that's right. You just got to be able to understand, you know, whatever your strength is and my strength is, let's come together and make it work. So I love all people because it's, you know, it don't matter what the race of a person is. It's white people that's cool. You know, it's black people that I wouldn't nigga fuck away from me. You know what I mean? So it just depends on who it is and how you treat people. You know what I mean? The content of your character, as they say, that's the most important aspect. Let's run through some headlines, man. This was some bullshit. What's that? What's that? People mad at LeBron for saying the incorrect year. LeBron was at a press conference. We can play the clip here. Yeah, it leaves the guy alone, bro. I've been listening to those guys for so long. I was listening to those guys when I was my first year with the Heat in 2010. And you can ask any one of my teammates back then that had no idea who the Migos was. They were cursing me out when I would play it throughout the weight room or play it throughout the locker room. I was like, I'm telling you, these guys are next. I'm letting you know right now these days, like, turn this off. I don't want to hear this. LeBron has been in the league for almost 20 years. I get years wrong all the time. I'd be like, yo, I was 30, 31. It's a year off. In defense of LeBron, like, that's LeBron James. Yeah. In 2010, he was LeBron James. Like, for example, I've been listening to Drake since 2005, 2006, because I watched Degrassi. You know what I mean? And I was like, oh, that's the nigga from Degrassi rapping. Let me see what he was rapping about. Because the world hasn't come into it, that doesn't mean that he's LeBron James. He's LeBron. Like, you know, if I'm a hand, I see you to hit anybody. Well, the Migos weren't the Migos, though. It don't matter. You know what I mean? He could have been listening to whoever they were at the time. Because you go to it, you know, he LeBron, he go to Atlanta. When he go to Atlanta, whoever the guy is, if they have access to him, hey, man, these are my new young boys. Check them out. I heard Migos in 2011. Migos' first mixtape came out like around 2011. It was the Jug, the Jug mixtape. Right. And that's the first time I heard Migos. But either way, it's like he was off by a year. Even, let's just say he did, she goes right and he got some music early. But let's just say he just was off by a year. Y'all crucifying LeBron for that? Well, no, I mean, these people just hate LeBron. They ready for LeBron to retire, bro? You know what they say? They say you either die a hero or live long enough to lose your hairline and be a villain. They ain't never said that part. What? They ain't never said the hairline part. You disrespect what they're the mom from. What I'm just saying, you know what? Yeah, I mean, you got your way. I don't have one either, Chico. Yeah, well, I do a little bit now. So I know that that's what you just do. Of course, man. You see my shit. Oh, shit. Did you get? No, no. Really? No. I about to got that. I mean, I ought to be a motherfucking model right now. You ever thought about it? My shit don't never grow back. God wouldn't do that to me. Would you? Yeah, we thought about it. No, I couldn't do it. I thought about it. I started the process. You did? The PRP shit, but that should hurt too bad. No, I couldn't do it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, PRP. They draw your blood. Rich. Yeah. What? It's like platelet rich. I don't know. Sleuthed Dr. Natasha Sandy. She just be experimenting on me. And she- Plasma. Plasma, there you go. Platelet rich, that plasma. Yeah, so she draw your blood. And then they draw your blood. And then they like shoot it back into the spots in your head that's bald. Yeah. That should hurt too bad though, bro. Getting fucking shots in your head. I couldn't go through it that shit. Oh, no, yeah. I'm definitely not getting no shots in my head. My shit already swollen enough. But what I'm saying is I could never. I could never cheat. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, bro. Hey. Hey, dude. I didn't hear the whoa in that one. Yeah, man. I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. I mean, I have a big head. Pulse. Do you say it was throbbing? I did not. That's what you heard. That man is throbbing. That man is throbbing. The fact that his mind works back quick or shit like that. How do you say that before? His mind works so quick on that type of shit. He be waiting on it, man. That was crazy. You know what I mean? That man is throbbing. I am mad. Who's the supervillain though, bro? The poker. That man is throbbing. What the fuck, man? That's nigger. Nobody's there. We're about to make that online. Yeah, this man is throbbing. We are going to make it online. Yeah, this man right here, man. Oh, my goodness, man. But, yeah, get off LeBron, man. Y'all just ready for Bron to retire, man. It happens, though. He been around for a long time. You think he should retire? No. No. You say he's waiting on his son, but I'll, you know. Yeah, I think he should play as long as he can. You know what I mean? Keep, keep, keep trying. You know what I mean? As long as he can, you know what I mean? Keep, keep stretching the legacy out, man. Don't let anybody else project their ability not to be able to do that great shit on you. Keep planning. If Tom Brady's still planning E-45, you keep doing it for us. Do it on the outside. And the rest of the piece to take off, too. You know what is crazy? It's like, Amigo has been around for the past 11 years, right? And it's like, we all knew they were like the best group of the generation, even though it wasn't a lot of hip hop groups. You know what I mean? But what they did to rap, they did change rap, right? Like in a lot of ways. Like, I ain't gonna say change, but they bought back. They bought a different sound because, you know, that sound of rap really comes out of Memphis. Yes, 3-6, that's right. That 3-6 in that, you know, that style of rap. But they took it to another level. They made it mainstream and bought it back to a younger generation who probably had never heard 3-6 before. So, yeah, they definitely changed the sound of rap and take off was incredible. Thanks, wait a minute to me. For someone who doesn't really understand. It's a name for it. I can't remember the name of it. I can't remember the name, the exact name of it, but it's a style of, you know, the synonyms of 4-6, synonyms of 10. You know what I mean? Lord Infamous from the 3-6 mafia, a bunch of people from Memphis, they created that style, that specific style of rap. And they bought it back. And then Amigos came, you know what I mean, and took it to a whole another level. I didn't know that. But what bugs me out about this is like, why do we always gotta wait till somebody die to say they're the greatest? Now all of a sudden they're like, oh, Amigos is the most legendary group and take off was the best lyricist from Amigos. I mean, I just think that that happens, especially in our community. I mean, I say this all the time. I don't think Martin Luther King would have a street in America if he was still alive. Damn. You know what I mean? Wow. I think the reason why Jesse Jackson doesn't have one is because he's still alive. Damn. I think it's just easier for you to get flowers, as they say when you're not here to be able to walk up on somebody and make them feel less of them because you got them out as crazy as that may sound. We put value on scarcity. Yeah, exactly. And then there's nothing more scarce than being gone. Than being gone. Right. Exactly. So I think that that's just what it is. I think death is so final that it's easy for me to give you everything that you because, you know, like you said, when you're living, you might fuck up the legacy. Yeah. And when you're gone, it's over with now. Whatever you do, when you pass away, whatever it is you did, it's done. So, you know, everybody that's still walking around, they have the ability to be able to do some shit that scale their legacy back. Because think about it, you know, if God forbid, I don't want to wish death on nobody like, you know, you be doing motherfuckers and shit. I ain't never wish death on nobody. You did. That was nasty. That was nasty. I've never wish death on nobody. I don't even play with them. That was nasty. No, I was nasty. Yeah, you play with the poker. But, you know, like figuratively speaking, let's say if, you know, R. Kelly would have died in the 1999. Oh, wow. You've been considered to be the hero, the greatest, but now that he's lived long enough to fuck his legacy up, then, you know, I think that's why you don't, you know, see people get their flowers until they die and the way that they do when they die. And I ain't seen them young brothers go so young, man. Yeah, that shit sucks. I mean, I ain't coming from a community with, you know, I've lost a lot of friends and family to violence, man, to know that, you know, from the story that we have heard, I don't know what actually happened, but to know that he was just there. Not even part of it. You know what I mean? He was just there. But, you know, the thing about death that I understand and dealing with it so much is just guaranteed to all of us. So we don't get to pick how we come or how we go. So I just think that we need to, it's unfortunate in the way that he went out is, I think that we need to start having a better relationship with death because death is a problem for the living. You know what I mean? Like it's a living issue. Like the dead people who, the people who it did don't have no more issues. So I think we need to start learning how to have a better relationship with it. While we're still here. That's a hard thing, man. My man, Ryan Holliday gave me this coin and the coin literally says, you are going to die. Yeah. And it's like, he's like, yo, you should carry this with you and look at it because it helps you to appreciate every single moment. Tattoo, memento moria morfati is a, it's a stoic mantra that says, remember death, love your fate, which means understand that it's inevitable. It's the most guaranteed is, it's for everybody to have, everybody is going to die one day. So you have to love the fact that that's your reality and live in it and enjoy every moment that you have. I need 99, bro. Let me write out the 99. I want to see this shit play out, bro. Hell yeah. I want to see it. Yeah, yeah, I want to live long too. You know what I mean? I would, you know, and the thing is, it's just like the fact that we don't get to choose death fate. Like, and I always ask people if you knew the day that you were going to die, how would you live? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, or, you know, just in regards to money and how much emphasis we put on having money. Like if I said, hey, man, I got a billion, I got that $1.9 billion for you in the jackpot that's coming, but you die tomorrow. Would you take it? You don't want it. But if I, if you had the 1.9 and they told you, you'll die tomorrow, but it costs 1.9 and say your life, how quick would you give it up? I give him a billy. I mean, well, you going to die. I'd give that 0.9. Yeah, well, yeah. You got to take the whole thing. That's not the off. That's not the off. You can't negotiate. No, you can't negotiate. It's the nigga that touched Uncle Charles's forehead standing in front of you. That's who you're talking to, and that's the deal, G. You're probably getting married that I even offered you. You want to negotiate? Bow, you out of here. Black eyes, you done. Oh man. And you know what I was thinking? So I was like, damn, take off 28. Just to be able to perform at Take Off's funeral is that real? I don't believe that's real. Oh, he might sing a ballad or something. I can see that. But if take off was 28, I'm like, I've been interviewing them guys since they were 16. 17, 18, yeah. Wow. Like they been coming to Breakfast Clubs since like 20. Wow. 2012, 2013. Like we got Migos interviews. We never put out. Really? Yeah, because they were so young and they just weren't good. They wouldn't have put them in a good light. You know what I mean? I'm glad that y'all do that. Like I always wondered if that happened like a lot of interviews that you can. Hell yeah. You know what I mean? Hell yeah. I didn't know if that was the case. I'm still sitting on a Paul Mooney interview right now that we never put out. God bless the dead. Why is that? Paul was in there wildin'. And then listen, now this was. My mind is this is when I didn't even have a good sense. And I have been to plenty of Paul Mooney shows. So if I was in on making the decision not to put it out then he must have been really wild. And I keep saying to myself, I need to go back and listen to that interview and see what he was saying. That made you not. That made you like put it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have said something the most. Outlandish it on the microphone. I don't ever say it, man. Never happened. Yeah, you do say wow. That was, that never happened. That shit you were talking about Batman before was crazy. What? You did. You always bring up gay shit. No fucking reason, bro. Shut up, man. Yo, what the fuck is wrong with you? Shut up, man. For real. What was that shit? Who would you say was the best villain again? The Diddler or whatever? The Diddler. The Diddler? Oh, yo. Two-faced would be wow for a threesome, right? Yo, it would be magic in the head from two-faced. Like, yo, turn to the left. Yo, like turn to the right, right? Oh. Elon Musk says Twitter will permanently... Come on, Gco. This is not on our time out, man. Come on, Gco. Do you see what you're doing to your people in here, man? The fact that they need money bad enough to have to sit in here. I listen to this shit every week by Mr. Know. That's the hostage. Like, bro, you can listen. There are other options for y'all, man. I don't even know what y'all do, but as soon as y'all start talking, this nigga's like, again, these fucking guys here. This shit is, hey, man, Dominican, Puerto Rican, man. Listen, let me tell you something, man. You don't have to listen to this shit all the time. Man, these two motherfuckers, I'm wrong with them. It's just fun, bro. It's not fun. A lot of people, you know, a lot of people don't know that the comic book characters are homosexual. That's the initial idea behind us. Really? Iron man? Word. Word up. Word. You guys have developed this... No, it's just true. It's just so up and down. Who did you ask? I don't know. It's just so up and down. Who did you ask? Stan Lee, bro. Stan Lee told you. The whitest Asian ever, bro. Yeah, Stan Lee told you that all the comic book characters are based on homosexuals. Are based on homosexuals? Yes. Based on... X-Men, bro. I used to be a man now. I can't believe you didn't know this shit. I'm just saying this. It's an allegory for the LGBTQ community. Yeah, yeah. I think y'all are only two that do it. Think about it, Beast. You know what I mean? The whole key... It is weird. You know what's so funny? You could literally put... I'm just saying. You could put Dick after so many of their names. And then what happened? And it went back like Iron Dick, right? The incredible Dick. The mighty Dick. You know what I'm saying? Captain Dick. Black Dick. Come on, Chico. Super Dick. Hey, my name. Dick. My name. Hey, yo. Let me tell you something. What camera am I on? Which camera am I on? You are not... Which camera am I on? Let me tell you something, America. Let me tell you something, America. This is not me. I'm not here. This never happened. This is the representative of me. I'm not sitting right here with these two motherfuckers right now because they don't understand that this is ridiculous, man. Oh, man. It's ridiculous. Let's do some Ask Canadians tale, man. Jesus Christ. Get up out of here, man. Slute to Elon Musk though. Elon Musk out here. I don't even... I mean, listen. I don't even think 90% of what's happening on Twitter is real right now. Nobody cares about Twitter, man. I think that Elon got on Twitter and I think that a lot of this shit is botched. I'm not saying that people aren't on there being racist and being anti-Semitic, but I don't think it's as crazy as they are trying to make it out to be. Like, I just... I really think a lot of this shit is botched because it's people... He said it's actually less. I think it's... I think that what I think is happening on Twitter because you know you got Black Twitter and then you got... We just tuned in to Black Twitter, but if there's a Black Twitter, then there also has to be a White Twitter. And I just think that now, for some reason, those lines have got crossed and that it's just like... If you are a liberal and you turn on Fox News, you have no idea that they're talking about these people this way. Like, you had no clue. Like, just the shit they... I do that all the time. I just watch Fox News when I'm at the... I do too. It's just a seed. I do too. The conversation is on the other side. And when you go on the other side of Twitter, the same way that we're hilarious on Black Twitter, if you go to White Twitter and you look at some of these tweets, some of this shit is brilliantly racist. Like, it's like, man, ah, my God, you can't even be mad at that because it's so far. Yeah. There is just what it is. So I think that now that he got it for some reason is... I don't know. Maybe he opened up the gate that was blocking. I think some of his bots, Chico. I think we forget CoinTel Pro was real some time and like, they want to keep us arguing. They want to keep us... That's how they keep us on these sites for mad long. You be on there fighting with motherfuckers for 12 hours. I refuse. I'm not... I ain't been on Twitter for 24 years. I refuse. Wow. They got a new app out now. What is it called? Macedon. It's like Twitter. Really? Yeah. A lot of people are gravitating towards that now. Macedon. I'm not doing no new ones. Yeah. Yeah, it's a new one. I'm 44 years old. I'm tapped out. I can't... You know, I'm lucky in the regard that my social media, you know, my consumption of social media, never overtook the shit that I wanted to do prior to social media coming out. So now that I've gotten to a point of success to where I can do things, I'm now still in, you know, enthralled in the shit that I wanted to do when I... When social media didn't exist. So, you know, I get lucky in that regard that I don't... You know, my information is not... So, you know, I don't think anything wrong with it personally, but I just still like to... You know, I still sometimes go to the place that the bill that I'm paying, I still go to the electric company and pay my bill. Really? I mean, like, I still do that. Like, it's just because I remember when not having the ability to do that was something that I always look forward to. Like, man, one day I'm gonna walk in here and pay this motherfucker for the whole year and they're gonna see my face. And it's just like... I think that to curb social media... You got a very conservative Instagram. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I just... That's it. You know it. That's it. That's it. Because it's like, you know, real life is still real life to me. And I just don't ever want to... I feel like if you give too much of yourself to any social platform, once that social platform goes, you go with it. I agree. You know what I mean? You're gonna die with it. So I think that outside will always be outside. So still try to find ways to utilize the social media, but make sure you're utilizing it in ways where it doesn't affect you going outside. Share is dating somebody that's 40 years younger than her. I don't see what the problem is with this, man. I mean, it's just one of those double standard things. Because, you know, I saw a meme that said it was like an old, old ass, fat white man with a young model looking chicken that said to women. It said, if you want to show your daughters why they should study, show them this picture. And then I said, for men, if you want to show your sons why they should study, show them this picture. Yeah. So it's just one of those things. It's rare that you see it in reverse. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? The same thing. It's just like, I think we rarely see it in this regard. So I think that's why they say it. They saying it because you rarely see an old woman with money publicly go out and, you know, look for a young man. What's his name, man? Is his name Alexander? Yeah. Salute to Alexander, man. Alexander out here getting super freaky grandma lit. Leaving it in too? You know the trick she probably knows. She been fucking since like the 50s. Oh, yeah. Is she tricking heavy? Oh, man. I know she's tricking heavy. Oh, my God. Share probably stuff with new fans. Share probably know how to do some shit that was popular when the WAP was new. I don't know. To that point, I don't know if she's still got the athletic ability to pull a lot of it on. You don't need it. Lay down. Lay down. That's all you got. Let's super freaky grandma take it from him. Lay down, baby. I'm going to lock that door when I'm done. Lay down. What else we got, Taylor? Oh, now, now, now, now, now, now, now. What? This is some shit I want to see. What's that? Kodak Black versus 21 Savage. Let me tell you something. I love Kodak in a versus. I love Kodak Black, and I love 21 Savage. Those are two of my favorite rappers of this new generation. Oh, yeah. That is one I want to see, because 21 Savage said, nobody that was on the freshman cover with him can beat him in a versus. All I say, nobody from that versus. Clarence beat me. I mean, that freshman cover beat me in a versus. Nobody. Nobody. Oh, that's a lot of shit. Who was the one on that cover? Anderson Paak. Anderson Paak. Yes, a little dickie. Kodak. Kodak the best. He's your old designer. Competition. Kodak the only one that could really. Man, they playing. Yeah. What's the last one? G Herbo up there, but. Oh, oh, oh, oh, so, so, so, so you can beat Lil Uzi. Lil Uzi Vert, Lil Yachty, Kodak Black, Denzel Curry, G Herbo, Dave East, Lil Dickie, designer, and Anderson Paak. Anderson Paak? What I don't count, come on. I mean, that's what I was about to say. Do we not count Anderson Paak? No, no, no. You know what I mean? No, no, no, no. Oh, man, you lose. No, yeah, we don't. You lose, you bring out Bruno Mars. Yeah, we not doing that. I mean, I mean, hey, Uzi too. Black first 21. Uzi too. Amazing, amazing. Uzi is. I think Uzi's a different type too. I don't think Uzi. Nah, Uzi got them. Uzi got. You think Uzi and 21 would be a good versus? It's like 24-hour. Uzi versus anybody. Uzi, man, nigga, alpha summary and G Herbo too. G Herbo is, man, everybody shake their heads. I love Herbo, that's my guy. You got, y'all got, like, you got to look at the verses, the way that they work. You see what Kiss did on the verses? Herbo could do that. Herbo got burst, man, got no, a couple niggas that's down the ride for a homicide when he's drama time, run up on a nigga with them llamas flying, leave his little ones all traumatized. 150, I'm really with it. I drop his ass in, then forget it. I'm the man around my side of town, might see a bitch and forget I hit it. Lil Bibi on the track with me, more mistake, and he clapped 50 when I hit the scene, hoes going saying, cause they know a nigga got them racks with me, no Velcro but the strap with me. Let a nigga want an axelie, I'ma let it off and then leave him there. Ride off and don't even care, bitch, I cash out till I pass out, got a couple truths I don't even wear. In the game, bitch, I do my thing, hoes, scream my name, I ain't even there. Lord Herbo, I do this, leave a bitch wetter than a pool pit, and I make bands like I make bands, but some Ray bands or some cool shit. But now it's back to some killer shit, got some wild hoes that a driller bitch is. No limit, 30 years, one in 30 years, gunning them, we still a shit. I never run cause I stand, fight out, cook a nigga like steak and rice and it's hella real in the battlefield. Gang bang gotta pay the price, hit a nigga with the 45th better, make his ass do 40 flips. M-O-B, I don't love a hoe, I'ma beat his way till I'm 46. Matter of fact, till a nigga die, smoke, kush, blunts till a nigga cry. And I never feed off another man cause I understand how a nigga lie. Never snitch on a nigga dry. Yeah, that's how a nigga die, got a young bitch on a passenger, she gon' suck and fuck if I get a high, if I do the dash and my whip will fly. Foreign shit with a nigga ride, I ain't never snooze and let a nigga try, got the nine rule on a nigga's side. Let's go Herb-o, let's go Herb-o. Listen, niggas got G Herb-o fucked up. He ain't fuckin' with 21 o' Black. You know what I mean? And I love Herb-o. Nah, when you do that, and when you able to do that. I get what you saying. And turn to Michael when kids, how many people had heard kisses freestyle before he did it on Versus? Nobody knew you had to be a kiss fan to know. Yeah, that was a classic one though. When he turned that beat off, but the world is watching Versus. When he turned that beat off and went in on that, that was like, you got to incorporate that. Everybody say Versus, but that is the- He's the pussy. You dick, y'all. Exactly. Like that shit right there is shit you got to account for. And that's why I give Herb-o the ability to do that. Don't sleep on Kodak though. When it comes down to that. Kodak got hit. That's what I'm saying. I personally think Kodak wins. I think so too. I love 21 and Kodak. I mean, if you talking about just straight individual songs. Now features, yeah, it's tough because 21 got classic features. You know what I mean? But I think that just straight up solo songs, Kodak got them hits. And then it's like Kodak didn't been so influential to the culture. Like Cardi B is the beneficiary of Kodak Black. You know what I mean? Let me dry the boat. That's Kodak Black. Like Kodak Black is- He don't get the credit he deserved. They don't get them young boys the credit they deserve. Nah, man. I'ma be honest. I'm looking at this fucking XXL. Unbelievable. This one of the best ones. Unbelievable. I never thought of a little Uzi, Little Yachty, Kodak, Denzel, Curry, Herbo, Dave East, Dickey, Design and Anderson Pack. Every single one of them has had success. Yeah. Every single one. Yeah. And still going. Every single one. Well, Design is not still going as well. Design has sold 20 million records though. I mean, but he's not going as strong as a lot of them. Yeah, you know how to catalog. The catalog. Like he did to be in the verses. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know how to catalog. But I mean still Panda. You know, most people don't get a record like Panda in their career. I think the greatest, I think the person my personal favorite one was the one with Wale. I think it was Wale. Was it Wale? Meek Meal? It was one that I mean guys have kind of reached like legendary status. Cole was on that one. Whichever one Cole was on. I feel like Kendrick. Kendrick was on that one. You on that one too, right? Yeah, I think that's the one that's, I think that might be my favorite one that one right there. Taylor, let's do some Askinidias, man. What we got? Okay. Oh, this is a good one for Chico Bean because ain't nobody clean as Chico Bean. What was that? Side mode, Shem says, who do y'all take fashion inspiration from? Me? Oh, man. My Aunt Mary was my biggest fashion inspiration, honestly. Really? Yeah, my Aunt Mary. God bless. It was the last person I ever met in my life. Well, like for a coach in DC. I mean, she was, oh my God. And that's, and that's why I take most of my influence from the city. You know, growing up in DC, we had our own clothing lines. We had our own, it was his own world. So the madness, the shooters, the all days, the, all of those different clothing lines in within the city is what shaped our culture. So we get a lot of shit that got stole from us that we don't get credit for, like the Nike boot, like the niggas up here in New York is trying to say, they came out with, no, you didn't. We was doing that first in the phone posited and the new balance and everything else. But as far as famous, it's like different areas. Like Fab is somebody I always looked at. That was clean. Iverson, back in the gap. DL on the suit game, on the suit side of the game. Who else? Shit, god damn. That's a, that's a loaded question for me. It's a bunch of people, but you know what I mean? I definitely say for, for show out of famous people, it'd be Fab, DL Hughley, and Allen Iverson. What about you, Schultz? Um, my wife dresses me, bro. Yeah, I got nothing for you right here. Who do I think, who do I take fashion inspiration from? Oh, Pharrell too. I put Pharrell in the L meet. Yeah, I don't know. No, that's a, that's a tricky one. I always admire people that dress really well. Yeah, I couldn't even answer this question. Do I look inspired? No, not at all. You never know. I can tell you get your fashion inspiration from correctional officers the way you tie your Timberlands. Like you tie your Timberlands like a correctional officer. I was like, boy, this nigga work at Rikers Island on the weekends with them teams tied so tight. Oh, yeah. CCO, LJ Hablachek, if you could relocate with unlimited funds anywhere, where and when would it be? This is interesting. Schultz? The best weather all year around is Los Angeles. I could also surf there. That being said, there's some limiting things about Los Angeles. I don't know, it's really, I would live in two places. I'd spend summers in New York and then I'd spend winters either in Miami or LA, assuming I'm still working because I would still want to work even if I had money. I still want to do this. But it's just winter in New York can be rough, but I love summer in New York. People think I'm crazy for that, but. I love summer in New York too. Is it right? I love New York summers, man. I love New York as a city. People, I don't understand how people don't love this city. I don't know, maybe it's because I'm from a city. You're from a city. But I love New York, especially in the summertime, man. New York nights in the summer, it's nothing like it, man. Yeah, who you got, Chico? If you could relocate with unlimited funds anywhere, where and when would it be? Oh, man. Oh, that's unlimited funds. Shit. Houston. Really? Really? Unlimited funds. Yeah. Because it's state taxes? State taxes? Not Florida? Florida guy ain't got no state taxes. No, no, not Florida. No, Houston. Why? Houston, Texas. Just because of the culture down there, like whatever your unlimited funds is, you can double your unlimited funds in Texas. Because you look at a lot of the people in Texas that come out of Texas, those dudes are filthy rich and never went platinum anywhere else. You look at the dude that owned the turkey leg hut, you know what I mean? Yeah, man. The motherfuckers is making the killing off turkey legs. It's so much you can do in Texas and never have to leave Texas. So I feel like if you go with unlimited funds, the, because everything's theirs, its own world. They got all of the natural resources there. They can separate. They could, that's the only state in the union that can succeed and still make it. And don't they have like this huge military complex? Yeah, they got everything in there. So I would say Texas, Houston, Texas, the unlimited funds, but worldwide, I do one in America and one in the world. America, I would say Houston and worldwide, I would probably say Switzerland. Really? Yeah. Why Switzerland? Just because it's just the nicest white people I've ever seen in my life. Natural beauty. Yeah. And then these are the literally the nicest white people I have ever encountered. Like because, you know, in a, you only, I feel like you're only a nigga in America. Everywhere else you're American. You know what I mean? Like when you go everywhere else, you're just an American. They don't look at us as we're only in America. Those colors are all over the world though. I mean, but we're not treated the same way here. You're not. Yeah, yeah. As anywhere else in the world, the way we're treated here, we're not treated anywhere else in the world. But Switzerland to me was literally the nicest, I mean, they would get locked up in Switzerland. You did? Sweden. Sweden. Oh, Sweden. No, no, I was at Switzerland. These was the, I mean, I'm talking about this, genuinely friendly, helpful. You don't seem like you're, I mean, this very helpful people. That's an interesting point that you make. They're like, here you're treated in a way, but when you leave, you're an American. And not only you're an American, you're the ambassador of cool culture of America. Yeah. So now when you go there, you're almost kind of like a celeb to them. Yeah, damn, yeah. You know what I mean? The way they look at us, because our culture has been. They're seeing music videos. And it's like all the way, like when I went to Japan, like they was, you know, oh my God, touching your tattoos in Egypt and all that stuff. So the way we're viewed other places. Interesting. You know what I mean? And it's stuff that, you know, is offensive to us here. We don't even get mad at the people from America. Yeah, you know, they don't have any intent when they're rapping the song versus over here. So I would say definitely Switzerland and Houston. Well, I would be, I would probably be in Kia. I would, I would too, it'd be two for me. It'd be Kiewa Island in South Carolina. And definitely Anguilla. You would just live there. Anguilla. Now you know what? I will say this. I have never been to, I've been to Egypt, but I want to go to Ghana. Going to Ghana in December. And I want to go, I want to go to Ghana because I've heard so many beautiful stories about it. Going to Ghana in December. So I think that if I, once I make it to Ghana or to that certain parts of Africa, I think my answer might change from Switzerland to Ghana. Yeah, I got some property in Ghana. I'm going to, I'm literally, I'll be there in December. For real? Yup. Oh yeah, I want to go over there. And I got to get over there. I got to check that out. Um, I think that's it, man. I think we did it gang, gang. We did it. Chico, thank you. My brother always a pleasure building with you, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, camera four. You know, what that nigga talking about? This is not Chico B. This is somebody else. As always, if you've listed this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening.