 I am Son Tiwari from Jaipalpur and we are done your mechanical engineering from Riturapalli. Yes. I think you have number of institutions in Jaipalpur. There are number of institutions in Jaipalpur. Yes. Can you name a few? Sir, in terms of engineering colleges or other students also sir. Sir, there is Rani Durga Vati University. There is Jawaharlal Nehru Krishi Vishya Vidyalaya. There is Jaipalpur engineering college for engineering sir. As well as there is Tropical Forest Research Institute of Forestry. There are two institutes, Forestry Institute. Okay sir. Sir, I am not aware about the second institute. One is belonging to Central Government, other is of the State Government. Okay sir. Thank you sir. I am not aware actually. Your father is in soils conservation service. Yes. Tell me what is his main job profile? Sir, at the present time sir, he is working in Pradhan Mantri Krishishtahi Ujna sir. Where in sir he has to build various Balram Tals that is being used by the farmers. What is that? Balram Tals sir. Balram? Tals sir. Tals? Yes sir. Okay. It is a pond like structure. Pond. Okay sir. Which is used for irrigation by the farmers sir. How some existing structure is to be modified or what? No sir. New have to be done. So new have to be made. If there is some existing area is also there then it can be modified also sir. But a new structure is built sir most of the time. Under which scheme? It is under sir Balram Tali Ujna of State Government sir. And it comes under the funding is also received from Pradhan Mantri Krishishtahi Ujna sir. And in Rega also. Under M.G. Anardigyas. No sir. Because they also dig ponds. Sir they are using J.C.B. machine sir for digging up the soil sir. So this M.G. Anardigyas is not being used? No sir. Okay. And there is some scheme this under the Amrit Mahotswa. Some swore scheme is also there. 75 ponds in a in each and every district of the country. You want to go on that? I am sorry sir I am not. Okay sir. Okay. Mimikri. Yes sir. Some various personalities which type of mimicry you do? Sir mostly I do mimicry of Bollywood actors. Bollywood actors. Yes sir. Can you mimic one or two? Yes sir. Which one is the best you do? Sir best I do of Sri Raj Kumar the Bollywood actor and Sri Sanjeev Kumar sir. Raj Kumar is alive? No sir he is not alive sir. Okay. Okay sir I will do a small act sir. Okay. Raj Kumar please. Sir there is a conversation between Raj Kumar and Sri Sanjeev Kumar. So Raj Kumar asked to him. I will do it in Hindi sir. Sanjeev Kumar ji you tell us in which state Chita is being translocated. So Sanjeev Kumar ji told him that Chita's translocation is happening in Madhya Pradesh's Khunu National Park. That's good. Okay. Okay. National Board of Wildlife? National Board of Wildlife? Yes sir I have heard. What is this? Sir it has been considered under Wildlife Protection Act sir which is being chaired by Prime Minister sir and it takes various decisions relating to like boundary of national park as well as wildlife century. If there is to be change in the boundary of wildlife century or national park it is being taken by National Board of Wildlife sir. As well as sir in declaration of Tiger Reserve the recommendation of NTCA is being approved by National Board of Wildlife. So if state has to denotify a Tiger Reserve it has to be recommended by NTCA followed by the... There is one standing committee also? Yes sir. It is being chaired by Union Minister of Environment and Forests sir. Okay. If some wildlife area is to be diverted for some infrastructure project or other projects what is the procedure? Sir if any forestry area is to be diverted for a non forestry purpose sir. Sir then there is according to the Forest Conservation Act sir the same has to be approved by a special committee that has been contributed by Central Government sir. So they take the decision based on the report by the divisional forest officer who is posted he will give the... What was my question? My question was wildlife area has to be diverted. Okay. I am sorry sir. So some wildlife area is to be diverted for some project sir. What is the procedure? Sir I am not aware about the same but I can try to answer this question sir. It must be approved by National Board of Wildlife sir. And? I am not sure about the procedure I am not sure. And Supreme Court also. Okay sir. Thank you sir. On 5th of June we celebrated what? Sir we celebrated World Environment Day sir. What was the theme? Sir I am not aware of only theme sir. Only one earth? Okay sir. And today also there is some international days there. Okay sir. I am not aware about it sir. International food day? Thank you sir. Okay. As a forest officer what role would you have in development of tribals and rural areas? Sir we can provide employment to the tribal youth sir in terms of forest because the area of forest that is being taken care by forest guards is very huge sir. So we can use tribal youth in terms of forest watchers as well as they can help in getting this inputs regarding the forest fire wildlife poaching. So they can be employed gainfully in that field sir. As well as sir we can establish we can develop some institution wherein we can like we can utilize minor forest produce in a better way by doing value addition and through trifet we can sell the same produce so that the problem of middlemen can be eliminated sir. Service sector you know service sector. Yes sir. What is the contribution of service sector to our GDP? Sir I am not sure about the exact percent but it is more than 50 percent sir. Okay. Yes sir. You are working in ordinance sector. You are an engineering service officer. Yes sir. And that is your core area and now you are moving to forest service which is not your core area. Sir. What is the reason why you want to shift from your core area to something you are not aware of? Sir in Indian forest services sir there is an opportunity to directly interact with the public sir and we can work for their welfare sir. And there is the field tenure in the Indian forest services is more compared to other services sir. As well as sir I had an opportunity to interact with a very senior Indian forest services officer sir and he shared his experiences with me sir which motivated me to join this service. Elaborate on the experiences which he shared? Sir he was working in the Arunachal Pradesh Agmud Kedir sir basically. So he shared that during the various issues of instances of wildlife poaching and whatever cases he himself fought the cases if there was any issue related to wildlife protection act. If any I mean there is some kind of someone has done like poaching or something he used to fight those cases for the government and he has convicted 95 percent of the cases he has written convictions sir. Moreover he has also worked he has also done a PhD in bamboo. So he also shared the inputs about that also sir but mainly these experiences were there sir. That is his area of expertise your area of expertise is engineering you could have utilized that motivation to work better in your field is it not? Yes sir I have been working in the engineering field for the last few years sir. But the amount of exposure that we get in terms of public interactions it is more insert for itself. Fine you also play chess. Yes sir I play chess. How has this alpha 0 revolutionized the whole chess game? Sir I am not aware of stock fish. No sir I am not aware. It is one of the most popular chess engine it was thoroughly beaten by alpha 0. Thank you sir. It is an AI based alpha program and it has opened up new ideas on playing chess. In fact the world number one Magnus Carlsen is also trying to understand how these moves are made. Would you rate Rook if you have to rate Rook and Bishop which one will you rate more and what are the reasons? Sir I would rate because according to me I use Rook more than Bishop sir. So I would rate Rook higher because if we have to do checkmate in chess game then we can use two Rooks to do the checkmate or one Rook along with the king. But with Bishop we cannot go for the checkmate sir only using Bishop. Not a logical answer. With Rook and a king you can do checkmate. With Bishop and a king you cannot do checkmate. Yes sir. So obviously Rook is much stronger is it not? Yes sir. So the question was that. Sir. The question was not about your liking. Tell us about driverless vehicles and what are the issues related to driverless vehicles? Sir I have not read much about this development sir although I have read it but I am not. What do you know about driverless vehicles or autonomous vehicles? Sir it will not it can be driven without a manual intervention that is without a driver sir and the issue may be sir like in Indian scenario if we look sir then because in the foreign countries usually the speed of the vehicle is higher and there are more lanes but in Indian condition there can be a sudden interruption like a cattle can come in the way or any other intervention. So it might not be. There is an issue regarding fixing the liability. Okay sir. Are you aware of what exactly is the problem? I am not aware about the. Okay. As far as autonomous vehicle is concerned Lidar. I mean do you know what is Lidar? Sir Lidar stands for light detection and ranging sir. So basically the I mean there is a particular area which the driverless vehicle will cover I mean it will check this much is the field of view where it can. Will it intercept any other obstruction which is coming. But as far as Lidar is concerned Elon Musk made a statement Lidar is an obsolete technology and we don't need Lidar. Sir. But other companies are using Lidar autonomous vehicles. Sir. Are you aware of this issue why is that statement made? I am sorry sir. Okay. Thank you. Thank you sir. Okay. I will tell you. Sir. Why Jabalpur is called Sanskar Dhani? Sir. In Jabalpur sir various religious figures like Sri Osho Rajnees he was from Jabalpur and Maharshi Yogi sir he was also from Jabalpur. These are one of the reasons that Jabalpur is called Sanskar Dhani sir. Why there is industries are not that much in Manthepradesh. Why? Sir. What are the reasons? Sir. They are confined to Indore area, Pithampur and Jabalpur areas. Yes sir. Liking point. Sir. It might be due to the sir all those are the availability of mineral is there in Madhya Pradesh in terms of copper and manganese mines as well as limestone. There are various cement factories in Madhya Pradesh sir. But overall in terms of skill and education sir Madhya Pradesh has been lacking in that research with lower literacy rate and economic conditions. The people are not that much educated sir. This might be one of the reason the lack of skill labor sir. Okay. What are the important national parks in Madhya Pradesh? Sir. It is Pesh National Park, then Kanha National Park sir, Bandhavgarh National Park, Panna National Park sir, Gunopalpur National Park sir and Satpura National Park as well as Van Vihar in Bhopal sir. What are the important agricultural crops produced in Madhya Pradesh? Sir. It will be wheat, soya bean and he is the highest producer of soya bean sir. Then wheat and rice and pulses also sir. Okay. You told about pulses. Sir. The GI tag is given to some pulses in Madhya Pradesh. Which area? Sir, I am not aware about the development sir. About the GI tag. But there was an issue for GI tag of Basmati rice. I have heard about that but for pulses I have not heard sir. In Garda sir. Okay. Sir, I have not heard about the development sir. Okay. I should have but I should have heard about it. Yes sir. Okay. Just tell. Sir. What is the difference between a national park and a sanctuary? Sir. A wildlife sanctuary is designated for a particular, conservation of a particular species. While in national park there is no such particular, it is mainly for the conservation of the whole landscape sir. And the area of wildlife sanctuary is generally larger than a national park sir. And the boundaries of the national park is being given by the legislation. While in wildlife sanctuary there is no such a foundation is there. What is the difference between reserve forest? Sir. And protected forest? Sir. Sir, in protected forest, in reserve forest most of the activities like grazing, lopping, topping, apart, shifting cultivation are prohibited sir. And most of the activities are prohibited unless it is permitted. While in protected forest it is the reverse sir. Most of the activities are permitted unless it is prohibited sir. It is given by the Indian forest. What is the difference between village forest and forest village? Sir, village forest is given by Indian forest acts sir. For the benefit of the community living around the forest area. They can use the resources from the forest and minor forest areas. Forest village sir, it must be, I am sir making a guess here sir. Forest village should be the area, if a village is located nearby the forest area sir. Or inside the forest area it should be forest village sir. Status is reserve forest or the protected forest? I am not sure sir, I am not sure about it. Okay. What is the hierarchy of forest administration? Start from forest guard. Okay sir. Sir, in the beat level it is forest guard sir. Then there is, in Madhya Pradesh there is dipty ranger or forester what we call in other places. Then there is range forest officer. Above him is assistant conservator of forest or sub-divisional officer. Then there is divisional forest officer or dipty conservator of forest. Then there is conservator of forest and chief conservator of forest. Then additional principal chief conservator of forest and above him is principal chief conservator of forest. And above that? And above that sir, in state I think there should be a secretary of the... No, no, I am talking about the forest hierarchy. Forest hierarchy is headed by... Then you told the last one is the principal chief conservator of forest. Yes sir, at state level sir. Even up than that. Okay sir. Is there any post? At the state level sir, I am not aware of it sir. At centre is it headed by director general of forest sir. But in state level I am not aware sir. Okay. What wildlife you will find in the urban areas? City. Okay sir. I am unable to recollect the exact wildlife that will because generally we see domesticated animals in urban landscapes sir. So I am not able to think that if any wild life I have seen in urban areas sir. Snakes will definitely come. Snakes will definitely come. Snakes rodents may also come sir. And nowadays you find leopard... Sir leopard, but yes sir. There have been instances in Uttarakhand sir that leopard and tiger. No, no, no. Okay sir. Okay. So you are working in the defense sector of government of India right? Yes sir. Yesterday some announcements were made. I am a defense acquisition counselor suggested something. Sir. What was it? Sir, I have not read about it sir. What are the issues in you know promoting the art mannerable Bharat manufacturing in the defense sector? What are the issues which are coming up? Sir, in India sir in defense sector sir. We have been mostly dependent on import of the technology sir. We have been importing from Russia and France basically sir. And the problem is sir the MSME industries and other small industries are not developed enough to produce quality products in terms of defense sector. Like in ordinance factory board sir we are taking certain amount of products from MSME industries. But the quality is not up to the market sir. So we need to focus on the quality aspect as well as sir we need to focus on research and development sir. We have not been doing enough research and development when it comes to the defense field sir. So for becoming ART NIRVAR we need to focus on research and development capability as well sir. So research and development by private sector or by the government itself? Sir right now if in terms of research and development DRDO is the main agency sir. Apart from it ordinance factory board has been carrying out research and development for the last 7 to 8 years sir. But we also need to include private sector sir because the funding they can give to the defense that can be sir huge sir. As well as sir we need to include the academic side sir. There is only one institute in India that is defense institute of advanced technology in Pune which is particularly for defense sector sir. So if we develop institute like in IITs or IIT Madras we can develop a course sir. Where in we can train various individuals and make our proper ecosystem where in the user the army as well as the research organization as well as the manufacturer sir. They come in a close collaboration as well as we can use academic institutions sir. Then only we can develop a better ecosystem and we can develop a new product in a shorter time frame sir. Okay alright sir. What do we import from Russia in terms of army? Sir right now we are AK-203 we are having a joint venture we are having an indoor Russian rifle. Apart from it we are S-400 we are importing as of now sir. And we have a joint venture with Russia that is Bramhose Aerospace in itself. And some fifth generation aircraft also we are developing. I am sorry sir I am not aware about this. Okay alright. Okay. Now coming to Kampa funds have you heard of Kampa funds? Yes sir. So what are the source of that Kampa funds? Sir if any forestry land is diverted for non-forestry purpose sir. But then there that value of forest is being calculated and the same amount is has been paid by the private sector or whoever sector is using that land sir. So that is being given to the Kampa funds. 10% of the fund goes to the national level and 90% is given to the state level sir. Okay. And how is the utilization of Kampa funds in Madhya Pradesh? Sir I am not sure about how much it has been utilized in Madhya Pradesh sir. But the utilization has been very low sir and it was pointed out by the Honorable Supreme Court that the utilization of the fund has been low sir. What is joint forest management? Sir joint forest management is the involvement of local community in the production and management of forest areas sir. It has been done in MP also? Yes sir it has been done in MP also sir. Okay. Any outcomes of that? Any positive benefits? Yes sir in terms of like if we involve communities sir they will be also getting benefits from the forest. So they will be more involved in the better management of forest sir and it will help in reducing forest fire incidents as well as poaching incidents in forest sir. Okay. Tell me how to tackle the manners of e-waste? There are some rules also but I don't think it is being implemented properly. Sir first of all we need a robust collection mechanism sir because if a common person is using a phone he might not be aware of the rules sir. There are various rules where there has been incentive for if we return back our e-waste then there is incentive for that. So we need to increase the information education and awareness that whatever e-waste that we are whatever waste that we are generating that should be given to the proper collector sir. And after the collection that disposal should be done by it should not be a primitive method it should be done as per the norms and given by sir agencies. What about recycling? Yes sir recycling can also be done sir. We can use there have been in mobile phones then we are using sir refurbished phone and they are also available at various e-commerce sites. Recycling is also a good option sir. Okay. Sir your interview is over. Thank you for your performance.