 It makes it clear you can fall from grace. There's apostasy. You can be cut off from branch. You can be your name blotted out. There's people in the Bible that Paul made clear turn from God. It's not a biblical principle concept, so don't believe the lie that you're just good. You can live however you want. Well, good evening. Good morning. Good afternoon. Listen, I had been sent this video and referred to this video several times. And can I be honest with you? I really did not want to cover it. The first few times I saw Adam and I went, no, never mind. The reason why, let me just tell you upfront, the reason why is I don't want folks thinking that I'm after anybody individually and I have covered him and granted every time that I've dealt with Isaiah Salter Bar, it's been a different issue. Now it's been a different issue relating to slaying demons and casting out and so forth, but it's something that's just kind of come up. And so I would deal with that. I won't cover the same thing 30 times if he hadn't done anything worth covering. Same thing with the others. And so I just didn't want to give the impression that I'm out after him because I'm not. But when I saw the video, you know what? I saw it at first, whatever, but then when I actually opened up and watched it and listened to it and heard the things, okay, yeah, there is a response that is required, so I must respond. Now let me just say this. And it's probably gonna shock you guys. This is probably going to shock you. I'm not necessarily even saying that Isaiah Salter Bar isn't saved. Is that newsflash shocking? I'm not saying that now. I don't know if it'd be the case. I know his doctrine is off. I know his doctrine is off. I have seen people that have espoused the same beliefs that he has who I know are saved. Now are they out there on the, are they out there running around and laying hands on people and causing, no. But they have a time or two. Now what could kind of cause them to keep doing that is because if you're in an audience where it's expected to do so, just like laying hands on somebody, then the people lay, people fall out, you might think that, hey, there's something to it. Let me just be honest with you. I have literally, this might catch you off guard, but I have literally laid hands on somebody, not in a sense to just slay them, but put my hands on them and they fell off. They fell down. Now I'm sitting there like, whoa, okay. That's not me though. I don't believe that. I didn't subscribe to that at the time that it happened. But at the same time, I was not going to stop and hey, stop, pick the person up. No, afterwards we're going to have a conversation. So what about a person who would do that and think that, yeah, this is true. This is real. Because when I saw the person fall down, listen, as you're on the ground, you're looking at me. So I know there wasn't much to you falling out. And so I can see how a person could get caught on that. So I'm not going to go so far as to say he's not safe. I don't know. Now, would I bank on it? Would I, if they say, hey, Cory, you got to put some money. You got to put some chips on this person's salvation in order for you to get, no, no, no, no, no, no. I would, now you guys, there are a lot of you guys in chats, I would say, yep, you know what? I would bank on this person. They could fool me. They could fool me because all I know is I see their facial profiles and their chats and so forth. But that's it. But at least their typing is more sound than some of these people. So that's something else. Same thing with the Marcus Rogers. He might be safe. I don't think so. But I'm not closing the door. You know why on it? Because it ain't my door to close, but from what I see. And I just make a judgment as that. And I try to at some point stay away from hearts. Now there's some people you can just see. You can just see. So now that being the case, with him, he is going to say, he is going to say, yeah, you still email me. Yes, yes, Daven, you can still email me. Anyone can email me. Anybody on the planet can email me. Now that does not guarantee a response. I do check the emails, at least more of late, more periodically. I won't tell you when because then you guys start sending in. So I do check them more periodically. So, yes, Isaiah, reprobates do exist. That's the issue because the problem is going to be when we see reprobates, when we see people that are out there that are, we know for a fact that most that call themselves believers aren't actual believers. We know that. But Jesus does make a statement. He said, we're going to let the wheat and tear grow together. He'll take care of that. He'll do the separating. Don't you do that. Don't you get to the point where I know. Now there are some people that, listen, if a person says that there is no God, well, then that person ain't saved. That's the easy one. Where it gets tricky is the person that places their faith in Christ. And I'm going to hit you guys later this week with a real difficult, I don't think it's difficult, but might be a difficult scenario or scenario depending upon what part of the globe you're from. So let's just be extra, extra proper, a difficult scenario about that. So relating to salvation, sin, and especially you guys who might be Calvinists. Now I'm going to ask you guys a question. I'm going to take, I may take a few periodic polls throughout this, I'm not sure, but I may take a few periodic polls, but I want to gauge the audience. I want to see if Isaiah is onto something. Isaiah does something that I think he should not do. Isaiah says, early on, you're going to hear him say it, that he doesn't want to build a straw man and then immediately builds the biggest straw man in the history of straw man. Why do I say that? Well, you're going to hear it for yourself when he describes if you can lose your salvation. Now, let me just ask you guys a question. Yes or no? Yes, one saved, always saved. And granted, I understand somebody might not like the term, but we're adults. We understand what's meant by one saved, always saved. Or you cannot lose your salvation. Well, you can't lose not like keys. You all know what I mean. One saved, always saved. If a person is truly saved, can they lose their salvation? So do you all believe that one saved, always saved is true or not? Yes, if you believe it's true. No, I would just love to see what you guys think. Now, by the way, I've heard people of late who would say, yeah, they agree, but then listen to what they say. Well, wait a second. And so I'm going to address that later, but I do want to see what you guys say. And now, let's be honest. There are passages in the Bible that seem to say you cannot lose your salvation. And then there are passages in the Bible that seem to say that you can lose it. And so there's got to be some sort of, there's got to be some sort of harmony. We cannot have a contradiction. So we have to deal with it. And as a matter of fact, a time or two wanted to say, yeah, if saved, always saved. If saved, if you are truly saved, then you are saved. That is the big if. Because I think what happens is sometimes we will take a person who's not a Christian and say, we'll see that person lost their salvation. Well, who told you they were saved in the first place? Now, ultimately we don't know. Because two things pop up. Either the person was never a Christian. And so we're judging a professed Christian who was not a Christian as though they lost their salvation or the person was a Christian and they hadn't lost anything. Guy says, well, I was a Christian. I lost my salvation, but then I came back. Well, then how do you know you lost it? We're gonna talk about that some more because what is God doing in you? There are these seasons, we would say, there were these ups, these downs, where you feel like, whoa is me. So that being stated, and I've had two guys, let me also tell you this. I also had to kind of adjust the video and the audio. The reason being is there was a part of the video that I wanted to make sure that I got it correct. And so I went back and checked it and the video has now been made private. Remember, because I don't think he wants to really deal with that, which is fine, which is fine. I'm not asking him to respond or anyone else. This is just for you all's viewing pleasure because this is an ongoing thing. We have to deal with this from now on. There are some people, and I'll tell you why this is important as we get towards it. It's a vital reason why this doctrine, this belief is why we need to understand it. Why we need to grasp it. Why we need to understand and hope. There's a vital reason why we have to. So that being the case, let me go ahead and do two things. One, my moderator says, put it on slow mode, Corey. So I listen to the moderators, why? Because first of all, they are the world's greatest moderators, if you have a YouTube channel and you don't have these moderators, well then you don't have the best moderators. Number one, number two, along with the world's greatest moderators, we have the world's greatest YouTube chat in the history of YouTubedom and all of Christianity. There has never been a greater collection of people, of Christians in the history of YouTube and the planet. Not even close. Anyone disagrees? You are blaspheming YouTube. Anyway, but let me go ahead and jump into it so again. Pardon, I apologize for the little bit of distortion you can still see and still hear, but I don't want to get a copyright strike. It really wouldn't be a strike, it'd be a copyright claim or it might be a takedown claim, never know. But in this regard, it won't be. So anyway guys, let's go ahead and jump into it. He's got seven reasons why he describes this belief as a destructive doctrine as a problem. And so let's let him start it off. Number one is it creates complacency. The doctrine of once they've always saved can lead to complacency and make people lack vigilance in their faith. Because now already, already, I'm not laying on thick. Wait, wait a second, no, wait a second. Okay, all right, let's do y'all, do y'all think that I'm laying on through thick? Joan, I, listen, everything I just said about the chats and the boundaries is correct. It's not canon, it's not scripture, but it's pretty close. It's pretty close. Don't y'all agree? So anyway, I'm just messing with you. But he says that all of you people that said yes, all of you people that hold that particular doctrine, that belief, he says it makes you complacent, makes you lazy. Shaft Barien says, hey, brother, how you doing? He says, wait a second, I think you changed your profile picture. Now Shaft, you tell us, now you can disagree. You can disagree with one, say, but do you think that it makes people that believe that lazy, complacent? Because that's what Isaiah says. He says that it makes us lazy and complacent. I have seen lazy, complacent Christians in both camps. Now, if that is not the definition of a straw man, well, it's at least the foundation, it's the beginning, we're building a big ball, not a snowman, but a straw man. That is, so all of these people who believe that they are complacent, they are lazy. That's just not, okay, I wouldn't go that far. Listen, I would never say that people who believe, who don't believe that are complacent or lazy. I wouldn't, you can't make a sweeping statement about that. You cannot, you cannot say, and he'll say it, that it creates a license to sin. Again, this is the, I think it's silly to say so because if people who believe you cannot lose your salvation, first of all, you don't know who all believes they can lose it or not. You have no idea who all believes, one, you have no idea who else a Christian, two, you all, you have no idea what they believe. You don't know all the Christians believe, if all the Christians at your church who are walking down the street would have you, you don't know if they all believe in internal security or not. You don't know if the guy that just shot up the grocery store was a professed Christian. What if he was a professed Christian but was also, he also believed in demons, being cast out, Christians having demons. Well, now what do you say? Because what if we say that the people that have the most problems mentally and emotionally are people that believe in Christians having demons because all we gotta do is turn on YouTube, we see that kind of stuff over there on your channels and people like that. Now, am I saying something? Am I gonna make a sweeping statement? I hope I don't. But you don't know what everyone believes. And so you can't, you have no basis to make that statement. You really don't. And I've seen people, those that I knew who believe both sides, one way or the other, I saw the same level of sin and the same level of righteousness as best I can tell, as best I can tell. So, but you're saying sweeping. I can think of some people that have done some wonderful things in the country. Some wonderful things in the country who hold to eternal security. A lot, a lot. So, let's just not do that. But anyway, let's continue. Because once you're saved, now you can kind of just live how you want and do what you want. And I'm not trying to create a straw man. I really do believe it creates a complacency. A lot of people out there believe they're saved but biblically, according to James chapter two, don't have a straw man. So he says, he's not trying to create a straw man but he's creating a straw man. What'd you say, Ethan? Ethan says, thanks for a super chat. He says, it doesn't make me complacent. It makes me love God more, trust him more and because of those obey him. I agree. I agree. When you recognize the lengths and the depths that he has gone to, God, when you recognize that, it will humble you. It will humble you. It makes you lazy in the mind, how so? And you might be right. You might absolutely be right, C.H. You might absolutely be right. But could you care to expound on that? How does it make you lazy in the mind? That's a sweeping statement. Who's lazy in the mind? Name someone and you might, hey, Corey, you're lazy in the mind. Okay, well, that might be true but I'm gonna need you to give an example. So again, I would be, I don't wanna say that. Now you've got folks on the other side that would say that people that believe that you can lose your salvation, they would cast judgment or aspersions on them. Don't do that. Because of, let me tell you what you're not saved by. You're not saved by your smarts. You being a smart Christian didn't make you save. See what y'all, y'all see what I did right there? See? But just because you know something, that didn't make you save. And just because you don't know anything, that didn't make you not save. You're not saved by what you know, you're saved by who you know. Jesus said, I never knew you. So, you mean you put everything on God, don't you? But actually we don't, sir. Or man, I'm not sure if you're male or female but the people that I know that hold to this that I see on places like YouTube, social media and so forth, we tend to go through the scriptures and go in depth. So, but what you're doing is you're making an assumption and it's unfair. You don't know these people. You have no idea. All the people in the chats who are, who believe in one, say to God, say you have no idea what they believe. You have no idea of the amount of time that they spend in study. Of course, we have no idea what you do in study. We have no, what if we found out and discovered that when it came to looking at the scriptures that they dwarf you in terms of their study. We have no idea. So you can't make that statement and nor should anyone make a sort of statement like that on the other side. Guys, before we continue, stop with condemnation and judging of people. And when I say judge, I mean really condemning them because they don't hold the same doctrine as you. They, what if they do next week? What if they change next week? You said the person ain't safe. So they got saved because, because one of the dumbest things I've ever heard was someone say that they recognize that they weren't saved until they understood the doctrines of grace. That's a dumb statement. That's an absolutely foolish statement. That's not what makes you save. What makes you save is you having a relationship with Christ, your faith in him. Your faith in him, your heart has changed and we're gonna find out that it's not your work that's doing it, it's his work. We're gonna get to that more and more, but again, I wanna just pull up the fact or show the fact that he crazed his gigantic straw man and he's gonna make a whole bunch more straw man arguments. They don't have saving faith. They don't really do anything about it. They just go to church on Sunday or maybe they don't even do that. They're just saved. So I think it does create a complacency. Hebrews chapter three. We just save, just don't do it. We don't do anything about our salvation. Nope. We don't do anything about our salvation. People that believe in one saved always save. They don't have, they're not protesting abortion, gay mirrors. They don't have abortion or pregnancy crisis centers. They're not feeding the homeless. They're not doing prison ministries. They're not doing Bible studies. They're not out there sending missionaries out. They're just too complacent. They're not doing anything. So listen, I will challenge you this. I will challenge you in this regard. When you go and look at which denominations, which denominations send out missionaries, I can promise you it's going to lean towards people that believe in one saved always save. I can promise you that, or at least it was, I shouldn't say that. Let me retract that because who knows what it's been over the last five or 10 years. But you can be thankful. As a matter of fact, when you open your Bible and read your Bible, especially if it's NASB, ESV, NIV, these committees, by and large tend to be the translation people, the committees, the people on the committees tend to lean that way. So, and no, this disagreement will never really get solved, but it's not about, and that's a good question. It's not so much about will it ever be solved? No, just like sin will never be squashed while we're on this earth. But what it does is somebody along the way can be helped because it's a Bible truth. We keep talking about it because everybody in the room, if everyone in the room is saved, we still talk about how we got saved. We still think about the goodness of the Lord. We still talk about it. We still glorify it. We still preach it. And so that's the main thing. So we're gonna talk about that in a second, CH, when was Peter eternally saved? We'll talk about that in a second. So let's go back to what he says. Go to Hebrews 312. I believe that's what he said. Let's go to that. Well, it warns us about our hearts being hardened. We don't want our hearts to get hardened. It tells us to encourage one another daily. We need to just walk in this thing. We don't wanna become complacent Christians. You don't wanna become a stale Christian. You don't wanna become a dry Christian that doesn't have any action behind what they're doing. So complacency is a big one. If you think you're just saved no matter what, it could give you a license to kinda do whatever you wanna do with no fear. Number two. All right, so let's go back to that. We'll go to the passage of a second, but I love it when they say stale, dry Christians and so forth. Yeah, listen, you are the world's biggest snowman ever. It's a huge snowman you're building already. We're just on number one. To say that these people that we have these, that we are stale, dry, all that. You say that because you're over there. You're not saying because you're over there. Not like in a threatening fighting way, but I'm saying because you don't know these people. Because you don't know these people. You think that is fresh fire and so forth because people are falling out. Let me just be clear and be crystal clear. The Holy Spirit shows up and is strong when, and he would have to agree, people aren't having demons. Would you agree, Isaiah or anyone else, that a person who is not demonized and walking in the spirit, that that's a strong presence of the spirit. That's a good indication of a strong presence of the spirit. A person walking around full of the spirit. A person walking around full of the spirit would not be, and of course you say that they can, so I'll leave that alone. But a person who's walking around full of the spirit would not be demonized, would they? They would not be falling out. They would not be convulsing, right? So best we can tell, the Christians that hold to that in some of these churches have more self-control than the people that have this, who believe that you cannot. Now I'm not making a straw man argument. I'm just saying that, just using your argument, dry and so forth. But let's go to Hebrews 312. I want to point out something that he says in Hebrews 312, so let's go to it. It says, take care, brethren. By the way, this book is given to give us confidence. Let's just go through, especially towards the end as the writer is making his points about the salvation that these Jewish believers have. These are Jews who have placed their faith in Christ as their Messiah. And what they're doing, what the writer is doing is trying to, trying to give them some confidence. There is a need for confidence in our walk. There absolutely is. We'll talk about that in just a little bit. But that's what the writer is trying to get across and he says, but now you make sure this isn't you. This is what the writer is saying here. Make sure this isn't you. Now he talks about, again, the Jews. Let's go back a little further. Let's go to verse seven. Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your heart as when they provoked me as in the day of the trial of the wilderness. Those people harden their hearts that way. Now, and I do believe it's possible for you to harden your heart. The more you kind of dig in and so forth. Yeah, you can harden your heart. That's on you. That's why I say that God does not ordain or predestine anyone to go to hell. So do not harden your heart as they provoked me as they did in the day of trials in the wilderness where your fathers, where your fathers tried me by testing me and saw my works for 40 years because the Jews, the children of Israel, therefore I was angry with this generation and said they always go astray in their heart and they did not know my ways as I swore my wrath. They shall not enter my rest. Now, these obviously, these aren't saved people. These are these Jews coming out of the wilderness and because of their disbelief, their lack of faith, their idolatry and so forth, they didn't make it. So he says, take care, brethren. Don't be like them. Don't be like them. Take care, brethren, that they're not in you and any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart. This unbelieving heart is not to say they used to believe. That's not what it says at all. It says, apestias which is not believing, a heart that's not believing that falls away from the living God and this falls away. Some people think that because you say fall away, you think that you must have been in it to fall away. I can fall away from something having never experienced it. That is possible again. I use the analogy of a sports team trying to make it to the playoffs and three, four weeks into the season, they fall away from playoff contention or fall away from the playoffs. Okay, they were never in it. I fell away from the door. I can fall away this way. It's directional. I was never in the door, I've worn through it. So don't make the assumption, don't make it say what it doesn't say, but encourage one another day after day as long as it's still called today so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For, we have become partakers of Christ that is if indeed, if we hold fast, the beginning of ours, you're as firm to the end. So now, do you have to hold fast from the beginning to the end? Do you have to hold fast from the beginning to the end? Yes, that doesn't nullify our argument. Saying that you have to hold fast from the beginning to the end doesn't mean that a person has the ability to lose their salvation. I believe, let me clearly guys, we've covered this enough time. When people say, yes, you can lose yourself. If you stop believing, if you stop following, if you stop having faith, if you stop all of these different things, then you will go to hell. I agree. The question is, will we stop following? Will we stop hearing? Will we stop believing? No, we'll deal with that in a second. So I agree with the Armenians on that point. I agree that you must continue. You must keep believing. You must bear fruit. You must keep following. I agree with that. You guys agree with that. What you don't, what we disagree in on is, are we going to keep following? Are we going to keep following? Are we going to keep believing? The answer, the biblical answer is yes. We're going to get to that in a second though. But anyway, let's go back to Isaiah. Two, is it disregards the importance of repentance? It basically says like, you don't need to continue to repent once you've turned from sin. Now we know that repentance is an ongoing work. It's necessary to continue that right relationship with God. If you sin, if you do submission of done, you need to repent. So we don't believe in repentance. We're going to cover this probably later on this, no, not probably definitely. We're going to cover this later on this week about repentance because people don't understand what repentance is. People think that you must repent constantly after every sin. That didn't meet the definition of repentance. You are missing what repentance means. You have thoroughly missed it. Because the very same people that will say to you that you have to repent after every sin, they don't repent after every sin. Matter of fact, you can't even convince them that they do sin in many cases, not always, but you do not repent after every sin. Repentance is something, one that's granted to you. It's your changing of your heart. It is, now people say it means metanoia. Yeah, but what does metanoia mean? When you actually look up what metanoia is, it's two words, meta, which is with or after, depending upon the, if it's in the dative or if it's in the genitive, the word that's following it, or in the word nul, which is mind, so it is this change of a mind, but it's really just changing of you. It doesn't mean that you can change your mind to where you don't do the thing anymore. No, it's changing how you feel about it. So it is you having this change of heart, which by the way, does not come from you. This attitude does not come from you. Okay, this changing of your heart comes from the Holy Spirit. You are born from above. And the Bible says that God grants us repentance, and or gives it then. That's literally the word that he gives us this. And so he causes us to be born again and have this change, and he's made us new. And so when we do sin, when we do mess up, it bothers us if you sin. And I've always said two things, two good ways to try to test to see if a person is a believer. There's two things that you want to look at, two things, guys. And I don't care what side of the alley you fall on, there's two questions, there's two things. To identify, to help you understand, am I actually a believer or not? Because it can be confusing sometimes, man. And the reason why a lot of folks ask that question is because, man, I'm doing an awful lot of sinning. I don't feel like a Christian. Well, maybe you're not, maybe you're not. Or maybe the reason why you're asking questions is because you are and it's bothering you. So there's two things that I would always say that you should check. Now only you can check, only you know. Someone on the outside can look and say, ah, he ain't saved, he ain't got no, he ain't repentant. Tell them to, and just, y'all listen to me closely, I'm not mincing my words when I say this, when someone wants to judge your level of repentance and you know for a fact, you know for a fact they are, only if you know. Because if you're out there doing stuff and you don't care about it and you're making excuses about it, that's different. But if you have, and someone says you haven't, to their satisfaction, tell them to shut up in Jesus' name. There's two things that you can look at and only you and God can know. One, how convicted you are? Are you bothered by it? Someone is saved, they are addicted to drugs, get saved and they're still addicted but they're fighting it off. And every time something happens, what do they do? It bothers them, they wanna stop. My mother is, well, I would say she's living witness. But she's passed away. It was a struggle for her over and over again. But in the name of Jesus, she just moved away from that. Over time, dealing with alcohol and drugs, I thought that everybody grew up with alcohol and drug use. I just did. How common did I think it was? I told you guys as a child, remember I told you the story about getting bused to an all-white school and the clan was out there one day, burning the crosses and so forth and stopping the bus. Well, at that school, all-white school, just a few of us black folks sprinkled in there, this is me. I thought drugs were just normal. So on show and tell, what did I take? I took my mother's weed box. Yeah, some of y'all don't know what a weed box is. And it's a good thing that you don't. My mom had a box that she kept her weed in. She didn't know about this until later. And my teacher, this poor white lady, she was sitting there just looking and stunned, stunned. She had no, she didn't know what to say or do. She said, I don't think you ought to bring that next time. I said, okay, okay, okay. My brother found out, he said, boy, you dummy. He said, you're a good woman. My mother found out a little bit later though. She found out, that's the one time my brother didn't tell me. But she was struggling with drugs and crying out God. And so over time, the urge left. It stopped with the drugs first. And I'm talking about real drugs. I'm not, listen, we knew how to take, back then it was called free base. You take the cocaine and you turn into what they call crack down and smoke this. Yeah, we used to watch them do that and make a little, we thought it was normal. She got past that. The last thing was alcohol and depression. After that, she was good. So when my mother passed away, I cried, but I rejoiced at the same time because she don't have to struggle anymore. She is in heaven. So when someone say, she ain't saying, she ain't repentant, I would tell them kindly shut up in Jesus' name. Be quiet because what you're going to do is you're condemning yourself. The same standard of judgment that you use on someone, it better be right. It better be right because it's coming right back at you. So number one, if there is some conviction, if there is remorse, only you know. If sin bothers you, who's sin, yours and everyone else's. If the mere fact, and by the way, if it bothers you so much about someone else's sin, then it bothers you so much that you want to go into labor for that person. We'll deal with that later. The other thing is, are you testify of Christ? I don't know, I'm not saying just in the audience where it's good, but do you let, do people know that you are a believer? Those are the things, so those are just two things that you can kind of look at. Terry Burton, thank you for the superchats. I do things for my wife because she shows me love and I love her. I do things for God because he loved me first and he, thank you, wonderful. That, amen, amen. Good work. David and Fred, thank you for the super stickers as well. Thank you so much. So now, he says that we disregard repentance. No, we don't. As a matter of fact, we preach it. We preach it, we teach it. Again, straw man, you mean to tell me people who believe in one saved always save? Especially you Calvinistic people. You Calvinistic people. All you Calvinistic people, you don't believe in repentance? No, no. Who would say that? Isaiah, you shouldn't say that, brother. You should not say that. No one said, don't say non-Calvinists are unsaved and don't say the flip side, Calvinists are unsaved. Don't say people who don't hold to all of your doctrine are unsaved. Something about your doctrine is wrong somewhere. Somewhere down the line, somewhere you got it wrong. Now, you may not know it, that's fine. But as long as you're open to saying that I got something wrong, which makes you open to hear something you say, you know, I don't know or I might be wrong. I might need to adjust that. So, that's the case, guys. And Jesus Lover says it's not a rocket science, but for some people it is. For some, listen, this is, there are people who are honestly loving the Lord who might struggle with this. Maybe they're not as deep as maybe the farmer who loves the Lord, who doesn't have time to go as in-depth with this stuff as we did. Maybe he had a little bit of the Bible, couldn't read much back in the 1800s. Who knows? Is he saved? Sure. Now, I think because he was working to make sure he stayed saved, that means that he's unsaved. I think he was literally driving with the brakes on. I think he made it difficult for us, but will I say he didn't make it to heaven? I'd say he made it to heaven. I don't, I don't know. Did I get your email? I have to look and see. I'll go and look after this though, I promise. I'll go look after this. So, let's go back to what else he was saying, but I just wanna know, do you guys feel very repentant-ish? He says no. You need to turn from that sin. You need to change your mind, change the way you think. That's really what repentance is, it's metanoia. Change the way you think. You're wrong about sin. You think sin's okay? Acts 238, repent of your sin. Bible says in the book of Acts, God requires all men everywhere now to repent. Look at 1 John chapter one, verse nine says, if we confess our sins, he's faithful and just and will forgive us and purifies us from all unrighteousness. So if we confess our sins, God is faithful to forgive us and wash us and cleanse us. What it is, is he's not really understanding the passage. So let's go to 1 John 1 9. And some of these passages, he actually hurts himself. But let's go to this. 1 John 1 9, if we confess our sins, if we confess our sins, if we confess our sins. Now, this is a present act, so this means that we are confessing, but it really means that, okay, I've acknowledged the fact that I sin. And this is plural. So if I acknowledge that I'm full of sin, that I do sin, he is faithful and righteous, or just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. So the question's gotta be, Isaiah, if the Bible says that the Lord is faithful and just to forgive us and then to cleanse us from all unrighteousness, does he? Does he? Sure he does. Well, it's a process. God has gotta, he has to keep doing it and he's only gonna do it if you keep verbally repenting. And I think people think that to repent means to verbally repent. Sorry, Lord. I'm sorry, Lord, forgive me. No, now should you? Well, your heart, a contrite heart is gonna wanna make you do so anyway. If I do something wrong to my children, if I assume something, say something and I was wrong, I'm the father, I am the man of the house. Do I have to? Am I forced to? Is anyone gonna make me go back and apologize? If I don't apologize, will I get in trouble? No, no, it's not gonna happen here. But do I? Well, yeah, why? Well, because I love my children and I did wrong. I did wrong and so I want to acknowledge that because I love my babies. Listen, I remember one time I could, oh, I didn't really kick the dog, it came out. I didn't really kick her, I just kind of moved her a little bit. I moved her a little bit. Wasn't that hard, I promise you. Listen, she did not fly that far. So y'all chill. Do not think that I'm over here abusing kids or abusing dogs. I better stop talking. But they said, no, daddy, no, daddy. The dog was in the right, I was in the wrong. The dog didn't understand anything. So I went back and petted her and picked her up and gave her some treats and hugged her and all that kind of stuff. I felt bad, I felt this big. I felt so bad, I felt so bad. Again, guys, hold on. I didn't like wind up and kick her. I didn't, because it's an old dog. I just put my foot on it and just moved her. That's all, that's all. Watch YouTube, shut the channel down because of that. YouTube's gonna, yep, I shouldn't have said that. I should have, you know what? I should have just, I didn't say that, but the channel got hacked. I didn't say that, I didn't even say that. But I apologize to the dog. The dog didn't know I apologized. The dog didn't know. Or the dog does wrong and she'll come and, hey, hey brother, because that's how the dog talked to me. The dog says, hey brother, listen, I was wrong for that. I did not mean to bark at the neighbor like that. That was my fault, or Amazon came, I thought it was the truth, I apologize. You forgive me? Yep, and then me and the dog dapped it up and we were good. So anyway, but if the word says he's going to cleanse us from all unrighteousness, let's put it back on the screen, all unrighteousness, Paseis, which is all of it, all of it, only the unrighteousness that's in the past, or he's not gonna cleanse us from the unrighteousness in the future. Yeah, there's a problem with the art because you're using a passage that tells us that we will be cleansed. It's not a halfway guess, this is definite. We will be cleansed from all unrighteousness. So it's good to confess and repentance again is not a one-time thing, but we die daily. We're constantly repenting. And once they've always saved, disregards that importance. Again, no it doesn't, here's what's funny, the very things that he's talking about, we talk about it on this channel. They talk about it on many other channels. You guys talk about it in your churches and so forth, talk about it amongst you. Some of the things that he talked about, you guys may struggle with or deal with or talk about. So that is, one, it's not true. It's a straw man, get him on the show. Listen, one thing we already know for a fact, Isaiah is not coming on the show. He's not coming on the show. I'm never invited to his show, which is fine. I'm not asking him to come on. I just want to deal with the doctrine they have. So it's not gonna happen. He's already said he didn't like me, which is fine. I'm a likable person. I think I am, maybe I'm not. It removes that importance of repentance and acknowledging you sin. Because again, if you can't lose your salvation, you could just disregard the repentance portion once you've repented one time. Part of the problem is not understanding what salvation is. Someone saved you, you didn't save yourself, so you're not disregarding anything. The person that saved you is still holding you, but we'll come back over it again. It's a one-time thing. Number three, it reduces the importance of good works. This doctrine tells people and basically downplays the good works and the faith. So Ephesians 2-10 says, for we are God's handiwork created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Now, this is a passage that honestly, he should not have brought up. This is a passage that he would not, he should not have brought up. Why would you confess if you can't lose your salvation? It's a problem. This is why I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding of what's being stated here. In 1st John 1-9, that if you acknowledge the fact that you sin, well, let me ask you a question. How does a person become saved? Their heart has changed. They recognize and acknowledge they have to, that they are fallen, that they are sinful. And they place their faith in Christ. You would not place your faith in Christ if you have not acknowledged that you are full of sin and that you sin and you need salvation. That's the point. I don't think you guys understood, understand what the whole procedure is, but let's just explain it again. You are rotten, horrible, despicable. That part is true. Same with me, same with everyone else. Full of sin. We are big sin buckets overflowing with sin. We recognize that. As we recognize that, knowing where we are headed, which is hell, we recognize that the only way to not go to hell is if the debt was paid. The debt was paid, which by the way can't be unpaid, but the debt was paid by Jesus Christ, his blood on the cross. We place our faith in that and trust in what he's done and that God accepted the debt being paid. Why would we accept that or trust in that? Because we already have acknowledged, confessed that we are sinful, that we are sinning people, that we like to sin. Listen, we love us from sin. Some sin was from solace. We love it. That's us. And so, yeah. But now, going to this passage, he brings Ephesians 2.10. And what did he say? What did he say? That we are reduces the importance of good works. So let's bring up this passage that he comes to. Ephesians 2.10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works. Sometimes what is happening is people will look up a word. They'll do a word search. Let's look up for works. And well, here's one that has the word works in it. And so see, we were created for good works. Failing to watch or look at the context and even the words around it. Look what it says. Created in Christ for good works, which were prepared beforehand. What was prepared beforehand? What was prepared beforehand were these good works so that we should walk in them? Well, guess who is going to cause us to walk in them? That's the $64,000 question. Guess who is going to cause us to walk in them? It's going to be Christ. How do I know? Let's go to Philippians. Oops, let me type it in right. Philippians 2.12. So then my beloved, just as you have always obeyed me, or obeyed, I'm sorry. Not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence. Look what he says. Work out your salvation with fear and tribulation. Now by the way, it's not in that self saying work for your salvation in regards to your salvation, in regards to your salvation, then work, okay? For, look what he says, this is important. For it is God who is, huh, at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. So here's the question. Is there anyone else? What is God doing in me? What is God doing in you? No, let's not say me because you might look at me and he ain't saved, that's fine. What about you? What is God doing in you, sir or madam? What is God doing? Well, according to the scripture, the scripture says that he is the one at work at you. Can I ask you a question? Here's my question. Here's my question, my friends. What sort of worker do you think God is? Do you think he's pretty effective at his work? Do you think that he will accomplish what he sets out to do, what his work is? What do you think? Cause remember Paul says earlier in Philippians one, he says that he has this confidence that he who began a good work, there's another word, who began a good work in us, who's the he? God who began to get work in who? In us that he will complete it, he will finish it. So God who starts this work, thank you. You know what? Let me pump the brakes for a second. Just as I think you're safe. Thank you. Thank you for, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. It's been calling the question of late, which is fine, which is fine. I'll be dealing with that for the rest of my life, which is okay, which is okay. So he who began a good work and think about, what does that mean? People who believe that you can lose your salvation, what does that mean? If I'm going to say that I can lose my salvation, but God is at work according to Philippians two, that God is at work in me, and that he who began a good work in me is going to complete it, what does that mean? What does that mean that he began the good work in me and he is going to complete it? If I don't get saved, I mean, if I don't stay saved, if I'm saved a day and don't get saved, or don't stay saved, well, then did he complete it? No, he didn't. If it says that it's him who is at work in me, it is God who's at work in me, both to will and to work for his good pleasure, what does that mean? What is God doing? And then one of my newer favorite verses, not my new favorite verse, but one of my newer favorite verses is this passage here, Romans eight, old verse, people like this, but not for the same reason that I like it. I like it for this one saved, always saved stuff. He says, and we know that God, the very same God who is at work in us, that God who Paul says he's confident that he will complete it, that very same God, Paul says, look what Paul says, he says, God causes, God causes all things to work together for good to who? To those who love God, to those who are called according to his purpose. So let's just say you, Mr. CH, since you're in the chats fighting this slow fight, or Isaiah or anyone else. God's working in you. By the way, it all says as great as he that's in you than he is in the world. God has pre-prepared these works for you to walk in. Paul is confident that he is gonna complete the work that he started in you. And then Paul also says here that God is gonna cause whatever's happening in your life. Now, that is if you love him. So the question is, do you love that? Now that's a big question. If indeed you love him, if indeed you are his, if indeed you have faith, if you are his, what is God gonna cause even the bad things to happen to work for in your life, for the good? If I lose my salvation, if I can walk away or fall away, well, then he did not cause that for my good, for the good of those who love him. So we are neglecting what God said he's gonna do. Forget, let me just say this again easily, guys. Listen to this. Forget what we're thinking that I can do or what you can do, what I will do, what you will do. Let's focus on what God said he will do. He's the one that's saving us. You didn't save yourself. You didn't save yourself. So if you think that you're literally up there holding on, whether I can, I get it. If you think you're the one that's doing the holding on with him, okay, fine. But you're not. You're not. So anyway, let's get to it. So anyway, let's continue. It is a free gift. You cannot earn it. Let's be clear. The works are not how you earn it. It's evidence you've received it. That's why James says if you have faith, but no works, you don't have saving faith. What kind of faith is that? And the ones saved always saved doctrine. Let me just say this also. Let me just say this also. It's vitally important because I've heard them say this before and I've heard other folks say this, that it's a gift. Well, let's remember the gift giver and let's remember the one that received the gift. Because sometimes we think it's just us that received the gift. No, no. Our gift is secondary in this great, now listen to me guys, in this great exchange of gifts, in this great exchange of gifts, the gift that we receive is number two in ranking. It's not the greatest gift ever received. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Cory, you're getting blasphemous here. You're getting, no, no, Cory, no, no, the bald head is going to you. He's messing you up, Cory, grow some hair. No, it's not the greatest gift ever. It's not, now it's the greatest gift that we've ever received. Sure, it is the greatest gift that we have ever received. Don't deny that at all, but it's not the greatest gift ever received. How do I know that? I'm so glad you asked. Here's how I know. The gift that was given to God to the Son. I think that's a greater gift. Now, but you're saying, but he gave the Son us. That's not that great of a gift. Are you saying that God is a poor gift giver? Are you saying God doesn't know how to give good gifts? Well, the Bible says opposite. God gave a gift. The Father gave a gift to the Son. Did he not? Or is my Bible the only one that says that? Do I need to take my Bible and trade it in? Your Bible says that God gave the gift to the Son. He gave the gift to the Son. So, because I've heard people say that the person that receives a gift, that's the one that's responsible for keeping the gift. Okay, let's go with that. God gave us to the Son. And since he's the gift receiver, then if you're gonna say that Jesus is responsible for keeping the gift, okay. Because he actually says so. I agree with that. How do I know? John 637. All that the Father, there's a word, diddison. All that the Father gives me, first of all, he says, will come. XA, which is, they will come. So every last one that the Father has given, they will come, but why are they coming? Because the Father gave them. I know it bothers some people. I know it does, but that's just what my Bible says. Again, if you think I need to trade my Bible in, let me know. Trade it in for whatever you tell me to get. I'm pretty sure it's gonna say the same thing that your Bible says. I know it does, but that's just what my Bible says. King James Version, New King James, ESV, NASB, Net Bible, NIV. All the Father gives, so that's the gift. And by the way, wouldn't we be given before the foundation of the earth? So, and the one who comes to me, I will certainly not cast out. So Jesus said, I've been given this gift. I've been given something from the Father and I won't cast any of them out. For I've come down from heaven to do not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. This is the will of him who sent me. You know, the guy that gave the gift, God, the one that gave him the gift. He said, that's his will. He says, this is the will of him who sent me. That all that he has, there's a word again, given me. And by the way, look at the word. This word right here is a perfect tense, the doken. We've talked about this before. The doken or perfect tense is a completed action in the past. So all of us that were given were given in the past. We'll win. We'll cover that later. He says, I will lose none. May apaleso, I will lose none, but raise them up in the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes, and there's that word again, pistuan, the believing, those that are believing, what he calls us always believing, in him will have eternal life and I myself will raise him in the last day. Now, notice his passage here. Verse 47 of chapter six. Truly, truly I say to you that he who was believing, that he who believes has eternal life. I think someone asked, when did Peter get his salvation or something along those lines? Peter or everyone else, when you believe, what does his passage say? The one that believes has. Okay. That is, look at the bottom of the screen guys. This is present active at this moment, AKA has right now, guys. You can't get past that. Mr. Salavar, Mr. Mrs. C, I'm not sure what your CH, your male or female, but you can't get past that. You cannot get past that Jesus says, if you believe, you have it right now. Have what? Life going into, that's the other part. You have life eternal. You have eternal life. You have that you are living. This noun is you have living or you have life into the ages. Life forever, life into the ages. So, what do you have? You have life forever. And when do you have it? When you get to heaven? No, later on. No, right now. Present active tense. That's what you have. So, we're going to talk about a gift. If we're going to refer to a gift, refer to the greatest exchange of gifts that was given. The father gave to the son. Yeah, we received a gift as well. We received a gift as well. Matter of fact, oh, gone since we're there. Since we're there, let's go to this other gift. Let's talk about the gift that we got. I've covered this before, but why not? Why not? Speaking about our gift, the one that we received. For by grace, you have been saved through faith and that not of yourself, it is the gift of God. What is the gift of God? Ladies and gentlemen, we've covered this before. What is the gift of God? The gift of God is both the salvation and the faith. How do I know what we've talked about this before? Because we've got these two nouns, saved, sosesomenoi, sosesomenoi is a long Greek word. That is in the masculine. Then we've got faith, which is pisteos, which is in the feminine. Well, this gift is referenced by the this. Where is it? They said in my Greek, this right here. Tutai. The rules of Greek dictate that because it's a neuter, it covers both of the previous nouns because one is masculine, one is feminine. Now, if this would have been masculine, then it would have only referred to salvation. If it were feminine, then it would have only referred to faith, but because in a neuter, it has to refer to both of those. So our faith, like our salvation is both a gift. And it's not because of our works. And this is where Isaiah picks up. Not as a result of works, so that no one it may boast for we are his workmanship created in Christ, created. We have been created in Christ. In the past tense, created in Christ. C.H., you keep asking this question about when did Peter receive his eternal salvation? When do you say he received it? Why don't you tell us while we continue? Tell us, C.H., when did Peter receive his eternal salvation? When or once saved, I guess that's the best way to say it. Internal security, once saved, always saved. It makes people think you could just not ever work and you're just saved. Again, do you see this complacency, this lack of repentance, this laziness it produces? It ignores the need for ongoing obedience. Again, that is some straw man building at his best. You said a lot of stuff about people. That's just, Isaiah, it's not right. Or as they say in the South, not right. But thank you for soup chat, Martin. He says that what we have, we have a better sacrifice in the under, that's not in the old, I'm trying to skip, I'm trying to condense it. I should just read the whole thing. But we have a better sacrifice that we trust in his finished work. We're cleansed forever. Amen, Martin. Do I believe in irresistible grace? I create logos. I personally believe a person can reject the Holy Spirit. I think people can reject the Holy Spirit, but I don't think that people can reject the Holy Spirit if their heart has been regenerated. The reason why is because it's the Holy Spirit himself that does that. The reason being is because 1 Peter 1.3 says that God has caused us, that he has caused us to be born again. So if he caused it, that's his work. And then once that happens, yeah, you are going to be his. Because remember, you've been given to him. And all that he says, all that the Father gives will come to me. Lord bell, thank you so much for the soup chat as well. I appreciate that. So let's continue to Isaiah. Isaiah says that we are a lazy complacent, disobedient people. We don't believe in doing anything. It ignores that need. The doctrine says, you just get saved and you don't need to continue to obey God's commands. John 14, 15 says, danger number five. I'm sorry, that's the part I cut off. Let's go to John 14, 15. Oh, here it is. If you love me, you will keep my commandments. Okay, I can agree with that. If you love me, you will keep my commandments. But then what does he say? I will ask the Father and he will give you another helper that he may be with you forever. So the implication is, if you love me, you keep our commandments, but what is Jesus going to do? He's going to send you a helper, the Holy Spirit. Well, what does John want to say in 1 John? He says, greater is he that's in you than he that's in the world. Now, are you going to keep his commandments? That's the question. Does the Bible teach that with this Holy Spirit in us, that we are going to keep his commandments? Well, the answer is a resounding yes. We are going to keep his commandments. Y'all know the passage, we go over there all the time. Ezekiel 36, let's go to this verse 27. I will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk in my statutes and you will be careful to observe my ordinances. So are we going to keep his commandments, his statutes, his teachings? Yes, we are. If you have the Holy Spirit in you, you are going to, you are going to follow his word. Now, don't be like some people that think that this doctrine, as I was looking at the chat, this doctrine is going to populate people with hell. Really. Again, help us understand how? The people in the chats and other people that believe that you cannot lose your salvation, didn't they do what you did, that you say you did? You place your faith in Christ? So if I place my faith in Christ, but I'm wrong about this doctrine, you mean tell me I lose my salvation? Can you please stop and help us make sense of that? That would be the thing that you ought to do. Because if it's that bad, this thing, if it's that bad, it's going to cost somebody to go to hell. You need to not just make a statement, you need to supply some scriptures. Supply a scripture that says that anyone that will believe that way goes to hell. But you can't. So don't do that. Just like no one can say that people who believe that you can lose your salvation, you go to hell. No, we're not going to say that either. We're not going to say that either. So be biblically and godly honest, okay? Don't just start throwing stuff. Don't do what Isaiah is doing. And I don't know that he's, maybe he's doing it intentionally, maybe not. I don't know. But he's saying he's building a, he's calling, what he's really doing is he's really, it's really being slanderous. It really is because you're saying that the people that believe that they're just lazy. They don't care about repentance. They don't care about obedience. That's what you're doing. You're calling names, people that you have no idea about them. You don't know what people have gone through, what they've been through, what they're dealing with, but you're going to call them lazy. Listen, there's some testimonies in this chat that will blow your mind. There's some testimonies in this chat that will make you cry. And they've come through a lot of things. I'm going to answer your question, C.H. I've been answering questions all day long. C.H. asks, you answer the question. Thank you. Don't answer the question again, C.H. I'm not going to answer your question. You answer your own question. So whether you, whether it's mine, whether it's Tyra's, whether it's, whether it's Davis, whether it's Catherine, whether it's Brian, I don't care. Everyone here has a testimony. And some of these testimonies will just make you cry and make you just give God glory. Stop telling people that they're not as good as you. Stop telling people that they're not as good as you. Especially considering that the people that you're around that you follow in yourself constantly have demons. The people over here exhibit the main trait of salvation which is self-control. So you're going to have to stop doing it. And I'm just saying this for your benefit. You can do it all you want to. It's not going to bother us if you keep doing it. You'll just keep showing yourself to be wrong. And I'm not going to even use my other super passage that no one has still, including the great Dr. Brown or Gagnon, the other one that he referred to or the late Dr. who, by the way, neither were grammarians and their arguments didn't focus on the passage, but true grammarians say, yeah, this is what this is. And so he says, I will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk in my teachings, in my commandments, in my statues and be careful to observe my ordinances. What does that mean? There's a question, guys, what does that mean? What does this passage mean? That's where you have to figure out, okay, this passage does not mean what Corey Miner says it means. That's fine, I didn't write the Bible. So I could be wrong. In order for you to get me to see that I'm wrong, you're going to have to show me what does it mean? So all of the people that are in the chats, about 400 of you people, some of you all believe that you can lose your salvation. That's fine, listen, fine, love you, love you like a brother. So tell us what does this passage mean in Ezekiel 36-27? Do not say that's only for Israel. Yeah, he's talking about Israel, but in John, where Jesus brings this up again, about you must be born again, Jesus says that this is the same with all of us who've been born of the Spirit. So this not only refers to Jews, but it refers to the church. Unless you want us to believe that only the Jews are gonna have the Holy Spirit and then working in them to keep them from violating his commands. Unless you believe only the Jews are gonna be the only ones that are gonna have the Holy Spirit working in them to cause them to follow God, to obey God. No, that's not, no. Jesus said that he has another flock that he's gonna get and he will be the shepherd of make the two become one. So now that being stated though, I think Isaiah is building the world's largest, no man, at least on this issue. It downplays the role of grace. Now some of you would say no, this makes grace even more important because it's only by grace we're saved, which is true. It is only by grace we're saved. However, the Bible teaches grace also empowers us to overcome sin and continue in the faith. For example, Titus 211, so what does it do? What does the grace of God do? Teaches us to say no to ungodliness and worldly passions, live self-controlled upright and godly lives in this present age. I'm fully convinced he had no what grace is. I'm full because it's like it's a thing that's doing something. No, grace is what he did. Hey, it's like grace is not a... Okay, let me put on the screen, guys. I want you all to see what this is, grace. The Greek word over here is chyrus. Look at the bottom or yeah, underneath me. Do y'all see what this is? Is grace a noun or a verb? You all tell me it's Titus 211. Is grace a noun or a verb? It's a noun. So we don't grace people know what we do. The verb, we do something which is a verb and the verb is categorized by this noun. So what we do or in this case, what God has done is called grace. He's done this and this and this and so it's categorized. The reason why he does it is because of his grace. Are you with me? But let's go to Titus 211. It says, for grace of God has appeared. How so? Well, by bringing salvation to all men. This is not all men, like all the men get saved or making it available, I'll take it that way though. Instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age. So he's instructing us, well, who? All the people, those that believe in one saved always save and those that don't. I am convinced that there are people that believe in, that don't believe in ones that have always saved, but they're trying their best to live a godly life. And I think the people that believe in one saved always save are also trying their best to live a godly life, but don't disparage the people because they don't believe what you believe. I think you're wrong, you think I'm wrong, that's fine. I'm not gonna go out and say that all of you people that believe you lose salvation, you're going to hell because you are your lackluster, you are what, I'm not gonna do all that kind of stuff like that, thank you Fritz for the super chat and Mona Logan, thank you also as well. I appreciate that guys, thank you so much. Thank you all of you who have given super chats. Thank you so much. So people use that term grace and I think they really understand what that actually means. I really don't think they understand what that actually means. So let's continue though. The grace of God, let me make this clear is not a license to do whatever you want and live and sin. Number six, it belittles the importance. Before I get to this, belittles the importance of perseverance. They keep bringing, people keep bringing up, it gives a license to sin again. Isaiah, do you sin? Ask your compadres, do they sin? Ask the people that may go to your church, do they sin? Ask those that believe what you believe, do they sin? If they say they don't, then they are lying. They do sin. So here's my question. Here's my question. Why do you sin? Since when we sin, it's because we have a license to sin, well then why do you sin? Do you not have a license to sin? Oh, so you don't have a license to sin, you're just doing it anyway. Well, if you're doing it anyway, you don't have a license to sin, well that would mean willful sinning then. So that would mean that when you guys are willfully sinning, that means you have, does that mean that you lost your salvation then? According to your belief, does that, now I'm not saying it does, I'm trying to get understanding because when you say that whenever we sin, then it's because we believe we have a license to sin. I don't know anyone that says that because I believe I can never lose my salvation, let me go ahead and sin some more. No, no. Because you know, we also know that even whether you are believing one's saved, always saved, whether you believe you can lose it, I think we all recognize that there are consequences to sin. Yeah, I want to go to heaven with all my limbs working. I don't want God breaking my arms on my way to heaven. I don't want his discipline, his punishment as a result. I think we all can agree that we all believe that there are consequences to sin. And so because of that, I don't think that you ought to be saying that people think that we have a license to sin. Would you say I'd be happy to host both Isaiah and Cory? I never understand why believers who have different convictions and interpretations never sin. Well, sweetheart, I've asked. They don't want to. Listen, if you can put it together, I'd be more than happy to be more than happy to. So maybe you've got that ability to. Would that be wonderful? I think it'd be about, I think you're going to get about 100,000 views. That's for sure on that video. But so the question is, do we have a license to sin? I think the answer is no. But anyway, let's get back to this. To this next one. The importance of perseverance. The ones they've always saved can make people think that perseverance and faith is unnecessary. Why would I need to persevere if I can't lose my salvation? Okay. This issue of perseverance, that matter of fact, my Calvinist buddies, my friends, and in my myself, I believe in the perseverance of the saint. Matter of fact, I even believe in the preservation of the saints, two different things. But I believe both of them. I believe, again, going back to this a feat, not Ephesians, this Ezekiel 36 passage, as well as Ezekiel 11. Matter of fact, let's go to another one. Ezekiel, not Ezekiel 11. Let's go to another passage. I think this is also a wedding passage. Jeremiah 32, starting 39. And I will give them one heart and one way that they may fear me always for their own good. And for the good of their children after them. I will, now look at me, so I wanna give them one heart. I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them. So God says, I will not turn away from them, but we can turn away from him, right? Isn't that possible? Well, look what he says. And I will put the fear of me in them, in their hearts, so that they will not turn away from me. So we're not gonna turn away from him and he's not gonna turn away from us. The only other option is that the devil or some other creature can come and snatch us away, but he's already foreclosed that as well. Nothing can snatch us out of his hand. So how do you explain 1 Corinthians 9, 27? And by the way, someone said, I don't wanna answer questions. I answer questions all the time. I'm not gonna sit and just answer your questions. Not you, sweetheart. Give it Dora Lopez. I'm not, not you, but. 1 Corinthians 9, 27 where Paul says, lest I preach others into the kingdom and I myself become a castaway. No, he's not speaking about him losing his salvation. However, however, if Paul were to do that, if Paul were to preach another gospel, wouldn't that show that Paul is also not saved? But we know he is. We know Paul is going to be saved. Matter of fact, he says so. God tells him that he is going to suffer many things for his sake, but he's gonna be saved in that though. Continue me. Now I know the Bible teachers that watch us that are once they've always been able to say, this is a strawman, we don't believe that, but it doesn't matter. The doctrine you preach promotes that. Okay, it's evidence you've read. The doctrine that we preach promotes that. Where have we ever promoted it? And where have you seen us ever give a wink and a nod to sin? No, we deal with sin. We try to deal with it in love and passion, but promoted how? You make a statement without backing up. You guys are, you're promoting sin. Well, okay, because you said it, yes, I will simplify the project, because you said it, doesn't make it so. You have to demonstrate. You have to bring the evidence. You have to show us before us that what you're doing is promoting sin. I could say that people that believe in abortion on demand, that promotes unprotected and illicit sex. Well, the longer we've had abortion going on, we've seen that more and more, right? When you can start getting rid of consequences, because we're not saying that there's no consequence to sin. No one's ever said that, so tell us how. And then you gotta also demonstrate. You gotta also demonstrate in comparison to sin, the people who believe in one, saved always save and those that don't. And you gotta show us some sort of graph or chart that the people that believe that you can lose your salvation, they sin this much. People that believe you can, they're way up here. Now you're not gonna find that. You're just not going to find that. So. Saved it. That's why James says if you have faith but no works, you don't have saving faith. What kind of faith is that? And the once saved, always saved doctrine or once saved, I guess that's the best way to say it. Internal security, once saved, always saved. It makes people think you could just not ever work and you're just saved. Again, do you see this complacency, this lack of repentance, this laziness it produces? It ignores. I'm pushing buttons because I just happened to notice I must have moved the slider back. So let me go ahead and catch up to the right spot. We're in number, I think number six somewhere. Where's the need for ongoing obesity to persevere if I can't lose my salvation? Now I know the Bible teachers that watch us that are once saved, always saved will say, this is a straw man, we don't believe that. But it doesn't matter. The doctrine you preach promotes that. Okay, number seven, last one here. It belittles the importance of spiritual growth. That was the one I almost fell out of my chair on. It belittles the importance of spiritual growth. I would say this, I would say this, I've seen more Bible studies on youth, not just in the world, I don't know. What I've seen so many, you know, I shouldn't say anything. I don't wanna belittle straw man myself. But I see a lot of people that believe in eternal security who do a lot in terms of promoting spiritual growth, who do a lot in terms of promoting actual biblical growth as well. So I'm not, again, straw, now I'm gonna pull up a couple verses in just a little bit but let's let him finish, we're almost through with him. They basically, the doctrine says spiritual growth is not necessary. However, the Bible says in 2 Peter 3 18, but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and save your Jesus Christ. We're called to grow. We're not called to just be saved and just stay saved. So it's a right, a privilege to be a son and daughter of God and God can revoke that right and God can revoke that privilege. Well, if it's a free gift, how could you lose a free gift? What do you even mean? Of course you can lose a gift. The Bible makes it clear you can fall from grace, there's apostasy, you can be cut off from branch, you can be your name blotted out, there's... Now let me deal with some more sense as you can fall from grace, you can be cut off and your name can be blotted out. Let me just deal with a couple of those which are all false. Let's deal with first, you know, let's deal with the branches part first. Let's deal with branches, branches being cut off. Now, first of all, in Romans 11, we've talked about this before, Romans 19 and 11, Paul is specifically speaking about Israel and notice what he says. He says, but if some branches were broken off or which branches were broken off, Israel, those Jewish branches, some of those branches were broken off and you being a wild olive were grafted in among them and became partakers with them of the rich root of the olive tree. Do not be arrogant towards the branches. But if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root but the root supports you. You will say then branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in. Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief. They didn't, the reason why they were broken off not because they stopped believing. Don't make this to say what it didn't say. It doesn't say that they were broken off because they used to believe and then stopped believing. No, it says they were broken off because they didn't believe them. Of course we know that's what, that's Israel's problem. But you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited or arrogant, but fear for if God did not spare the natural branches He will not spare you either. Does that mean though that a person can be broken off? No, it does not. Here's why. The person who is haughty, who is arrogant, who is prideful or as Jesus says, if your righteousness is like that of the scribes and the Pharisees you will no way enter the kingdom of heaven. So you might look like it, you might think you are but you're not going to, you're not even part of the actual body itself. Are you with me? This is a person who is just not saved. Now continuing, he says, where is this? Paul from grace. That you can also fall from grace. Let's go to fall from grace. Paul is in Galatians five. Let's start there in verse two. Behold, I, Paul say that if you receive circumcision Christ will be of no benefit to you. And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision that he is under obligation to keep the whole law. So these are people that are trying to be saved based on the law. In this case by being circumcised. Remember, these Judaizers are coming to these people say, listen, you need to place your faith, not place your faith, I'm sorry, convert to Judaism, get circumcised and deal with the law, attend to the tenants of the law, then place your faith in Christ's Messiah. That's backwards. No. And so if that's how you're going to try to be saved well then you can't be saved. If that's what your, if your salvation is placed on that then you cannot be saved. And they were convincing some people to do so. So he says, you have been, look what he says, you have been severed from Christ or cut off. You who are seeking to be justified, you have fallen from grace. Now I want you, who is he speaking to? Who has fallen from grace? Who has been cut off? That's the question. Well, he tells us the one that's been cut off, the one that has fallen from grace are these people, those that are seeking to be justified by the law. So if you are trying to be justified by the law, if that's how you intend to be justified by the law, you're cut off. In other words, the route that you're going, that's already dead end, that bridge has been washed out. You have been cut off from Christ. You've been severed from Christ. You have fallen away. There is no way you can get there because you are trying to do it a different way. You are trying to do it a different way. You cannot make it by the law. Why can't you make it by the law? Well, a couple of reasons. One, you got to be perfect. If you were perfect, if you were perfect, then you got a shot. If you're perfect, if you haven't sinned and don't sin again, you actually have a shot. You got a good chance of making it in. You know why? Because there'd be no debt that you owe. God wouldn't hold you accountable or anything because you were perfect and you haven't sinned. But therein lies a problem. You're not perfect. You were born jacked up. When you were two, when you were two, you kicked your little brother in the head and laughed at it. So now you're going to hell for that little two-year-old boy. You keep sinning. You keep sinning. Matter of fact, you think you're so good that you're sinning, don't mean anything. You've got a problem. We have a problem. So therefore, you have messed up. Also, guess what's not in place there? You cannot even give sacrifices now. God is not accepting your sacrifices at this moment that Paul is writing. So there is no way for your sins to be atoned for, except for through Christ. So you who tend or you who want to go through the law, you're cut off. He says you, who's he talking to? Those who are seeking to be justified. That's literally who he's talking to. All of you who are trying to be justified by the law, you're cut off. No one else is he speaking of. Then about, he says, our names can be blotted out. Give me a passage where our names can be blotted out. Give me one example where someone's name has been or can be blotted out. As a matter of fact, Jesus says the opposite. He who overcomes or the overcoming one, Hanekon, the overcoming ones, will be clothed in white garments. And I will not blot out or erase their names from the book of life. And I will confess his name. And he says, I will never, ever, ever, ever. This is a double negation of a future active indicative. In other words, it's one of the surest ways to state that it's impossible to happen. So Jesus literally saying, it's impossible for your names to be blotted out. But then Isaiah comes back and says, you can be blotted out because some people will say that, yeah, but if you overcome, well, the pastor doesn't say if you overcome, the pastor's rather than saying if you overcome, the pastor just calls us or calls them overcomers. Well, who are the overcomers? Well, according to 1 John, all of those that have been born of the spirit, born of God, all of those that have been born of God, according to 1 John, are overcomers. Well, who's been born of God? All of us that have placed our faith in Christ. And the only way it happens is if we are born of God, born of the spirit, Paul says that God has caused us to be born again. So it's him working in us to do those things, causing us to be overcomers. And because we're overcomers, he will never, ever, ever blot us out in the future. You're not getting around that. And what they will do is go to other passages. Fine, but the passage that we put up, you cannot deal with them. Case in point, even Dr. Brown or even the other scholars that were put up, they don't deal with the passage. I'll keep giving them a John 10, 20, I want it today, but I keep giving it and what do they do? Well, what about this passage over here? What about that passage? No, what about the one that I asked you about? But they don't do that. That's not fair, by the way. It's just not fair that I have to answer all of your questions. I've got to answer all of your passes, but you won't deal with mine. You'll just keep on saying, well, I don't agree in this and that. Okay, fine. Okay, by the way, I've got a new favorite passage. I've got a new favorite passage. Would you like to hear my new favorite passage? I've covered it before. I've made a video called my new favorite verse. My new favorite verse is still in John 10. Still in John 10. This is when Jesus speaking, calling himself this shepherd. He says, when he puts forth all his own, that means the sheep belong to him. Where do these sheep come from? How did these sheep belong to Jesus in the first place? How in the world, Jesus, did you come by these sheep? Jesus, you wouldn't walk around with a bunch of money. How'd you get these sheep, Jesus? Come on, we wanna know. We're trying to figure this out, Jesus. Jesus, how did you get these sheep? Well, he told us earlier in John 6 that all of us were given to him, that great gift, the greatest exchange of gifts ever, we were given to him. So all of us that are his own, Idia, which is his own, all he goes ahead of them, ahead of who? The sheep. And what do the sheep do? He says, the sheep follow. The sheep, now this is a present active indicative. I won't labor this too long because we've covered this many times. The sheep go before him. Why? Why will the sheep go before him? Why will the sheep follow him? For all those folks that are not listening, that came in that wanna disprove or are trying to figure out where I'm wrong, answer the question, why do the sheep follow him? Why are the sheep going to follow Jesus? Why? Well, he says so. Hati, because. Because they, that is a sheep, the voice of his, they know. They know his voice. Sheep know his voice. Sheep know him. Jesus says, I never knew you to those who thought they were saved, but not, but to us, we know him. There's no passages I used to know him. No, I never knew you, or I do know you. Here it is, Jesus is saying that because they, who's the day, the sheep, or as we say here on this channel, us sheepesses, us sheepesses, we know his voice. We all know his voice. And so because of that, Jesus says, because we know his voice, what do we do? We follow him. And here it is, verse five. My new favorite verse, or top two, maybe top three. A stranger, they simply will not follow but will flee from him because they do not know the voice of a stranger. Now, listen up guys, listen up guys. Two more passages that I think we'll probably be through. What are we gonna do? And by the way, this just, can I give you, it's not a big word, it's a fancy word. And don't you just like every now and then just using fancy words to make it seem like you're really smart, smarter than what you really are. I learned that lesson. Use big fancy words and people will think that you're really smarter. You can be, listen, you can be dumb at some hardened clay in a hot Texas sun. But if you use some fancy words every now and then makes you feel like you're smart and make others feel like that guy's smart. And he's like, wow, they don't know. But let me just give this passage here that here's my word, vitiates all seven of Isaiah's arguments. This passage here is going to nullify everything that he says. What did he say? I forgot the first one. I forgot, honestly, I forgot. I know he says the second one, disregards repentance. Third one, reduces the importance of good works. The fourth one, ignores the need for ongoing obedience. The fifth one, down plays grace. Sixth one, belittles the importance of perseverance. Seven, belittles the importance of spiritual growth. So I've got a passage that's gonna nullify all of that. Hold on, listen, I have a fan. I amazed you right there, didn't I, CG? CG said, vitiate what? And sometimes, listen, my father, bless my father, my favorite man, other than Jesus my father would use words. It's like, what in the world do you just, that's not even a word. That is not even a word. Now, when I was younger, I didn't know that, but it sounded smart, and so I just, daddy's using words like that. No idea what you just said, daddy. But it sounded like you knew what you was talking about, and because you're my daddy, okay, fine, I'll go with that. Fine, I will go with that, but this is gonna nullify all of his arguments. Chapter 10, verse five. He says, a stranger, who would be the stranger? You pick and choose who the stranger could be. Whatever it is, it's not the shepherd. They simply will not follow. Well, that's kind of nice how this is put. Look at the word, guys, and we covered this before. Ooh, meh, akaluthe susan. We covered this before, and this is a future active indicative. What does akaluthe susan mean? CH and Isaiah and everyone else that would disagree. Akaluthe susan, look at the corner, look at the bottom, it's the future active indicative. It means that they will follow. They will follow. That's what akaluthe susan means. They will follow. The problem is, though, what precedes it is this ooh, meh. It's no, no, not, not, never, ever, ever. In Greek, the surest way to negate something, there's two sure ways. A double negation in front of a subjunctive, which is may, may not, may be possibly, because it eliminates the possibility of it happening in the future. And then also a double negation of a future active indicative, meaning that it nullifies the possibility of a future event happening, in this case, us walking away. That we will never, ever, ever, ever, there is no other way to make this even stronger than how Jesus just said. He says, a stranger or a strange voice. He says, they will never, ever, ever, ever. I wish we had more time. I keep saying, ever, follow. They will never, ever, ever, ever follow a stranger, but will flee from him, will flee. This is also a future middle. So it's a future tense. We will flee from that stranger. We will flee from that stranger. Why? He said, ha-ti, because uke oidisen, which we don't know the stranger or the stranger's voice. So when you hear Islam, when you hear Hinduism, when you hear atheism, or when you hear a corrupt version of Christianity, what will we do? We will flee from it, because it's not the voice that's in our ear that we know. We will follow him, the shepherd, and we will never follow anything that's not the shepherd. You cannot get past that, guys. Now, you go find your scholar, and I promise you that there's no grammarian that's gonna refute that, nor just like there's none that's refuted, John 10, 28. It's not going to happen. Psalm 69, 20, let them be blotted out of the book of life. So let's go to that particular passage, and let's just see, because that looks like you might have a point. Psalm, now we've covered this by the way before you don't, but I just wanna give you the courtesy to cover that, Psalm 69. And this is David being upset. He's hurt, he's bothered, but look what he says. He says, may they be blotted out of the book of life? So maybe somebody can be blotted out. Two things about this, and by the way, I'm just picking on you, but that is a good question. That is a good question to bring up, because it looks like it, Lord's Day ministry, it looks like that they could be blotted out. The problem is two things, one, were they? No, one, God didn't honor that prayer request, but two, more importantly, the book of life, this is literally Cai, or Cayenne. The reason why I say, and matter what it is, it's Cayenne, put it on the screen. Cayenne, it is the book of the living. There's more than one book, guys. There's the Lamb's book of life, which I do not think that David or Moses or anything new about. The book of life is not the book of the living. What is the, what do you all think the book of the living is? Any guesses, and I think you guys probably get this, what do you all think the book of the living is? What do you all think the book of the living is? It's not the book of life. What do you all think the book of the living is? Y'all going ready for life? Yeah, every living person, the people that are alive, those who are alive, living right now. So at some point in time, your name is going to be taken out of that book. At some point in time, you've got to go. It's a point under man wants to die, and so our time, when are we going to live, where are we going to live? That's been appointed, not by me or you, not by your mom and daddy looking at each other's eyes and thinking, hey baby, how you doing? Nope, that doesn't determine you being born. God does, God does. We saw in the Bible study, Ruth, her husband, and her couldn't get pregnant, but then when she marries Boaz, God, the Bible says God, enables her to get pregnant. So that's up to God. God does so. And we read in Revelation, we see that there are other books that are open. There's more than one book. There's more than one book. There's multiple books. So yes, Paul hates sin. Paul hates sin. Christians, we hate sin. Now, let me give you this. By the way, that John 10, five, four and five, just nullifies everything that he says. That means that the sheep do persevere. That means the sheep, one, they follow him because they love him. So because of his grace, they love him back. Spiritual growth, well, we're following him. If we're following him, then that means, are we not growing? Reduces the importance of good work. We hear and we follow. Those are our works. We hear and we follow. So anyway, Ephesians 1-3. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ. Just as he did what? Chose us. He did the choosing, chose us, went in before him before the foundation of the world. That we would be holy. He chose us so that we would be holy. He chose us so that we would be blameless before him. You cannot be blameless before him and then lose your salvation. If you lose your salvation, you are not gonna be blameless. But he chose you to be blameless before him. Now, by the way, we talked about just even in English. You've got the subject, the noun, I mean the subject, the verb. You've got the direct object, the indirect object. Who was chosen? That's the direct object, which is us to beware in him. That's the indirect object. So either it's Greek or English, it fits. We were the ones, us, say folks are chosen. Now let's drop down a little bit and go to this passage and seal this. 13, in him, you also, after listening to the message, after Akusante's hearing the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation, having believed, and by the way, even though your English says ED, it is Pistusante's, which is, guys look at the bottom, this is an heiress active participle. So this is, put the ING on it to make it easy. You believe you were past tense, you were sealed in him with the Holy Spirit of promise. The Holy Spirit was given to us as a pledge of our inheritance. A pledge towards our inheritance until when? With a view of the redemption of God's own possession to the praise of our glory. So in other words, you have been given the Holy Spirit as a down payment. We've covered this before, this word, our bond. It's an earnest money, a sure deposit, a surety deposit to guarantee you until you get to where you're going, which is heaven, which is our inheritance. So right now, all of us that are saved, we are saved, we have it right now. Are we as, for lack of a better put it, as saved as we're gonna ever be? No, at some point in time, we'll leave right here and go to be with him. But we are destined for that spot. We are guaranteed that spot. We have got, we've got this seal, the Holy Spirit that's gonna get us there. He who started this business, this work, he is going to complete this work in us through the Holy Spirit. So when you mess up, and you will, there's gonna be this convicting in you. There's gonna be something that's gonna, you know what, that wasn't right, and it's gonna bother you. It's not gonna sit right in your soul. It's gonna make you feel icky, yucky. Why? Because that's him working in you. He is working, he's at work in you. And so because of that, one, the passage, he didn't give one passage that spoke of us losing it, but then we've got these passages that just cannot get around. John 10, all of John 10, Ezekiel 11, Ezekiel 36, Jeremiah 32 passage that we went over, Ephesians 1 passage, John 6, all of those, all of those, my friends, keep us, say, guaranteed. He has not got, and this is the one thing you all need to understand. Hey man brother, he's the one that began to get working in us. This is what you need to understand. Since he gave us to the Son. I want you all to hear this before we leave. The Father gave us, me, you, and everyone else, even if you agree with this doctrine. He gave you, that is, if indeed, important distinction, if indeed you are, he is, he gave you to Jesus. Can I tell you what Jesus doesn't think? I know this for a fact, because he said it. He doesn't think highly of your ability to stay safe. He doesn't think highly of your faith. No, he doesn't. But what he does think highly of is his ability. Now went to him who was able to keep you from stumbling and to present you holy. Guess what he's doing? He's banking on himself. He's putting you on his back. He's guaranteeing he's writing the check because if he left it up to you, your check would bounce. You are unreliable. You are unfaithful at best. You are up and down. You, no one should ever put the faith. Listen, if you think you stand, if you think it's you that's doing it, Paul says take heed lest you fall. You're not that good. I hate to break your bubble. I hate to put it to you this way, but there's nothing. And I mean absolutely nothing good about you. You again, let me say it again guys, for the people who just don't wanna get it, you are worth $5 worth of dirt. I might be overestimated, but only because of inflation. Only because of inflation. You're probably worth about $250, $5 worth of dirt. But your value comes from the spirit that's in you. Because he's literally in you. You are priceless. And God is not, as he says, he's not gonna let you go to waste. Every single person that he has purchased and that he present, there's no more debt paid, that needs to be paid. And every single one that the father has given, Jesus himself, unless you wanna call him a liar, if you do, let us know so we can move away. He's not lying. He said every single one that God gave him, he will not lose one. Why don't you simply just believe that? Amen.