 So Nikki and I are talking about free Facebook groups. She's doing, she's building a community of women who want to share some things that they usually don't feel able to share. So just from that idea, it does sound to me like, well, a free Facebook group can of course be public content or private content. You have the choice of whether people who are not in the group can see the posts or you have to join the group to see the posts and you can have like member questions before they join all that stuff. So here's the problem with free Facebook groups. It's so much work to stay engaged, to keep engaged. Now I know what you're saying is you want to do, like before we started recording, you mentioned you want to do the Zoom gatherings, free Zoom gatherings. And you was like, well, instead of, instead of just having a one-off free Zoom gather, maybe I should just put Facebook live, you zoom to Facebook live and that way it'll be broadcasted to the group members and maybe even the recording will be there instantly automatically without you having to upload it later. So that all sounds nice and streamlined in terms of having a free Facebook group. The problem is, I mean, my question, the reason why I have not recommended free Facebook, like I said, it's so much work to keep engaged. Like you don't even, I mean, it sounds great. Like when you're first envisioning it, like, oh, it sounds amazing. But then three months, six months, three years later, you're like, oh my gosh, I have to, like the group is dead unless I actively try to make it alive again, even with Zoom live calls, still a lot of people don't see it. And the problem is, you can't reliably get the members to see it unless when people join, you require the member questions. This is now something that wasn't available in the past, but you can require member questions where you ask them for their email address to say, hey, to join this, please add your email address here because we're gonna add you to the announcements list for this community as well. So because I know Facebook groups, you won't necessarily see the stuff. So I'm going to announce it via email and sometimes link to post within the group. I don't know how much you wanna say or can say. Actually, you can say quite a bit in the description of the group when they apply, they can see the description and the rules and all that stuff, right? So long story short, I think, yes, for a free Facebook group, if you have the email requirements so you can announce it via email, otherwise it's really just random, I mean, as the algorithm that decides whether people see it. The alternative, I'll give you two alternatives. One is to just do a Facebook business page or fan page or public page because then you can run ads to reliably reach your fans. You can't run ads to Facebook group members but you can run ads to your fan page followers and engagers and it doesn't have to be much money. Even 30 bucks a month, you could reach 3000 of your fans reliably. So that's one alternative but the topic might not suit itself to that. Like I said, they wanna feel more safe to comment and things. But secondly, why not just make it a paid thing? Okay, so it doesn't have to be a high cost. Instead of having a free group, you can have a whatever low cost means to your people. It could be 30 bucks a month, could be low cost to some people or $10 a month could be low cost. I mean, certainly $10 a month is doable for the vast majority of the people. So more 30, you know, some people might even say 70 bucks a month is low cost. I don't know, but why not just do that? Because then you, and then guess what? Now you've got a low cost paid group and then you could do the occasional zoom, free zoom as a sample, as an experience for them to see what it's like. And I would say that's probably what I would do and that's just probably that is what I do. I do occasional free, as you have heard me say, free to attend paid recording zoom webinars. So it's like, hey, if you want to attend this experience, this lecture experience, you know, training or whatever webinar, it's, you can attend for free. You could sign up, if you show up live, it's free. And in fact, I even tell them, listen, if you fill out the feedback form afterwards, you'll get the recording for free as well, right? But those of you who can't show up live or don't want to, don't worry, you can buy the recording, the lecture part of it or the presentation part of it, you can buy it later at a low cost, you know? So I really like doing that. And then it's like people who really enjoy that experience come to my low cost membership program. So, Nicky, what do you think about these options? Yeah, well, so with regards to the like Facebook group that you have to pay, you know, a monthly fee for, how would you set that up? Would you like kind of do like a moon, clerk, whatever that... Oh, like a recurring payment thing? Yeah, like how would you be like, here's the link to like, you know, sign up and you know, X amount of money a month, and then you'll get access to this Facebook group or like how would you, yeah. Yeah, exactly. No, I mean, for years, I mean, still now I still have, I still use Facebook groups for some paid membership. Now I'm starting to move over to Simplero for more and more stuff, but it's still fine. And in Facebook groups, as you know, as you're in several of mine, work great for a paid group. And you basically, yeah, the question might be, what is the checkout process? I guess the technology for checking out. And PayPal, most people have a PayPal account. PayPal recurring payments is PayPal subscription button is probably the easiest way to get people to pay for that. And then after they pay for it, you can send them to a thank you page. PayPal allows that or moon, clerk or stripe, et cetera, can do that. And then the thank you page will be, please request to join the Facebook. And of course, you'll have their email when they buy and you can have an automation where you, people who buy this product gets automatically emailed by your email list provider. Welcome, please request to join this Facebook group and then y'all approve you within a day or something like that. And so you just have to pay attention, at least checking once a day on your group requests or it should show up in your notifications that someone is asking to join. Okay, well, and then just a one last question about the free to attend paid webinar. See the thing, why I haven't wanted to do that for this is because I don't really see it as a webinar because I see all the group support. Yeah, exactly where people are going to be sharing and then just. So what, which means you probably don't want to record that stuff because it should be confidential. Yeah, generally, but within the group, you know, if within the group, within the group of stuff. So this is where, yeah, no, I agree. It wouldn't be a paid recording type situation. It would just be a free to attend. There's no recording. You got to make that clear. Hey, this is an experience. If you can't show up, no worries. I will be scheduling additional calls in the future. Here's the email list to join to get invited to that. And just be aware, you know, as your group grows, as your audience grows, you probably want to schedule something that's friendly for Europe time zone and Australia time zone. Essentially, those are the two major time zones because those two both work for, you know, America's as well. America's daytime, America's evening kind of thing. So over time, you just, you'll just figure out basically also based on your own convenience, what times are good to schedule that works for you and works for the audience as well. So yeah, thanks.