 Well, hey everyone welcome back to Nintendo Prime another special video for you guys that I did not plan This is how it goes sometimes We have so much breaking news switch pro and then some additional information From samus hunter who has been talking to Andres restart here behind the scenes That's why I have Andres restart here with you guys right now. I'll say hi man Do there guys one. Yeah, so uh, we'll get into the switch pro stuff first And then we'll get into the other stuff that's gonna be kind of a shorter discussion video And I'll let you guys know right now There's gonna be another discussion video between me and Andre on some of this stuff But in a different viewpoint over on his channel, so please go check out Andres restart to check out that video as well And whatever else he decides to cover around it sounds like he's got some really cool ideas Percolating for a lot of this information. So first let's dive into the switch pro stuff since I've already reported on this Already been through this once and know all the information and he hasn't had a chance to dive too deep into it So here's what's happening with switch pro just to recap in a more calm down version of myself compared to my initial video Takahashi much as uki who's been on top of the switch pro stuff since day one He's been reporting on this thing for two and a half three years dating back Um, you know Bloomberg dating back to other outlets used to work out like a Wall Street Journal And he's really putting a flag in the ground right now. He has talked about for the seven inch OLED Display 4k output when docked that's all stuff that came from him He was the one who told us that that we're getting this Sam some company displays providing the displays He talked about how it's going to go into mass production in July Etc etc etc, and obviously I took all this to mean while mass production in July can't be releasing soon Maybe end of year, you know, we're not going to see this thing at E3 There's no point to even think we're going to see it at E3 because hello It's not going into production till the month after E3. So that why would you kill switch sales? But here's the deal Takahashi much as uki broke a report in the middle of the night Because he lives in Japan. So for him it's daytime and He has put out there now that the Nintendo switch pro is a couple big thing one Releasing in either September or October not even he's not even speculating. He's straight up saying September or October One of those two months. He's not sure which one they're right next to each other switch pros coming then to switch pro is Going to be announced Likely before E3 if not at E3 Now the reasoning he says before E3 is his sources are saying Nintendo wants the announcement to land before E3 So all of their partners that are working on games that will take advantage of the switch pro can show off those games during E3 It's one of those. This is kind of the overall marketing plan They have a lot of partners that are making games that take advantage of the of the system And so they are trying to push everything To so so E3 can basically be about switch pro at this point That's kind of what Nintendo seems to be aiming at here So I want to toss this over to Andre because I already did a reaction video on this once But we're gonna go back and forth here a little bit This is the first time we really got into the deep news with you on this What are your thoughts here on what they're doing here with this switch pro and deep? I mean, do we do we believe this guy? He's he works at Bloomberg Yes So I have a Takashi mochi here on Twitter. He's got the little check mark verified Which tends to add for that a little bit of freedoms and credibility to whatever he says This is one of the this is the Bloomberg report and and he broke the switch light So we could clear he was the one who told us all the deeds on switch light and was 100% correct. So I guess the thing about this is that There are going to be people who will say oh Bloomberg is saying switch pro for years. It hasn't happened. Well They were right about the switch light, right? And this could have been in development for years too. Yeah, it's been it's been the works for a while exactly so I This is one of those things that I take serious right like This is it's like if there's like a hearing system of terms of like how credible do we take this? It's not as credible as those coming on saying no, yeah, but certainly far more credible than a random reddit post for Or chan post right? I would say or I mean I'd argue even possibly more credible than someone like samba center who we cover all the time Yeah, doesn't have a name out there. We can't we don't know who this person is We can't verify things necessarily. This is a guy that's a little literal journalist works for major news outlets Lives in the country clearly has contacts in manufacturing been right several times in the past about stuff with Nintendo It's one of those Trackable history public figure works at major outlet. That's why in my thing. I didn't call it a rumor This is a report. This is coming from a verified news outlet Yeah, it is it is a report right now I guess the interesting thing is that when we're getting information about stuff It's like made official by Nintendo. There is that room for error or miss interpretation Sure, or perhaps plans can change his development is fluid for both hardware and software Yeah, so there is there is room for error here. That's definitely take with a grain of salt, but this Very likely based off real information and a blurry talking about like release coming for September to October then This is around the corner and as as mentioned like this is only getting announced ahead of the brief, right? So we're we're gonna be hearing about this really soon Which is very very interesting. There's a whole bunch of implications Why we're probably gonna do our separate discussion trying to piece it all together But I believe this For sure It's also one of those things like you know I may want 100% believe it until it's actually said but it's kind of like an expectation Yeah, it adds an air of believability to this because like All of the major reports about switch pro come from someone like Takahashi machizuki There's rumors and other people that throw things out there But he's been the lead dog on this nailed everything with the switch light And he's never in the past said when the system is coming, right? The last time he said anything about it was oh, you know the target is sometime in 2021 But you know that was really it you just kind of left it all vague could be the leg could be this or that and now He's just coming out literally right now No, this thing is eminently being announced and it's coming out in this sometime in this two-month window He doesn't know the exact date because the people he doesn't know they just know when you know Based on orders or based on whatever he knows from manufacturing Nintendo refusing the comment That's pretty typical, but at least he does reach out to Nintendo to see if they have a question for you Sure, I'm sure I haven't a chance to read the floor. Yep But I'm just kind of looking at the headline on Twitter which says exclusive new Nintendo switch Which would replace current 299 model is planned for release for October announced to be eminently free So when he says there in the headline Would replace current 299 model? Yes And that just maybe like a Version 3.0 and would grow the 4k upscaling I don't think so Because he mentions that it's the same model in the article as he was talking about or earlier with the seven-inch Oh, that display in the 4k up when he says it's all the same model now one thing he mentioned in the article when he talked specifically about that point I'm glad you brought it up because I totally forgot to mention that He's in the second paragraph Higher than 299 yeah, so yeah, yeah, it's it's gonna be more expensive than 299 But it is supposed to replace the base model. So the switch lights gonna be running This is gonna run along the switch light. This base model is going to get replaced by this eventually It's gonna be a slow phasing out of those So basically the the current base model is gonna probably be available through this holiday This is the way I kind of view that and then they'll phase it out in the spring time next year And it's just gonna be switch pro which also leads me to believe price point wise higher than 299 but gonna replace the original I Originally thought switch pro might come in at 399 now. I'm thinking well if it's gonna replace it and phase it out I'm thinking now 349 Sounds maybe a bit more realistic since it's going to it's gotta kind of split the difference to replace the old model But also be more powerful and then obviously it's gonna make the switch light look like even bigger of a value buy at 199 as well down the line because that's probably still gonna be using the older hardware I presume and all this kind of connects together to with you know, Nvidia throwing out there that hey Like we want to stop making Tiger X1 Well, I mean this is one way the most high-demand model of switch is still the base model switch If you can replace that and then eventually down down size the switch pro chips to use in the light I mean it kind of works. I think I don't know. I this is like we don't know We're in such an unknown territory, but they have this news break that aid This isn't just like something that's getting announced like in a few months. No within 14 days We're gonna hear about this thing and he does know there's only Name-wise the final name of the product is set in stone apparently he says I didn't hear but it's only known by a Handful of people in coyote at the moment Which means they have out there. They haven't passed them. Yeah, they haven't passed the marketing material for it yet I'm putting it out there. I'm not saying I know the name that's new Nintendo switch really new Nintendo Maybe that but if my I hate that name by the way here has been kind of what's what that's been my prediction I super switch out there super switch is one of this gone around. Yeah, I like super switch So I think plus I like that. I like the plus What super switch sounds really cool like my hesitance with that one just that go back to the NES The super NES It was to sort of imply next generation You sure this is more of a mid-gen refresh now graded that was over 20 years ago Yeah, and I would hold and I would hope whenever the new generation comes if it's still a switch style system That they would just call it switch to and get rid of the confusion, but I mean, yeah, Nintendo They don't use numbers. I mean they didn't Nintendo 64, but that was this time They made stuff because yeah, they I feel like when you look at switch It's it's something that works that the general mass We also consider PlayStation 2 3 4 5 that all works. Yeah, so well What if Nintendo no longer has to be for this sort of vicious cycle where one system is a viral test next system is a Terrible failure and then it's up and down. What would it be also recent systems There's also a thought process and I've had this thought for a while that what if like there is no such thing as a next-generation Switch what if they just ride the switch family and keep releasing upgraded versions like every three four years? Non-stop and they never call it switch to it's always just that next switch That's just part of the whole family as they slowly like they're planning to phase out the og switch apparently They just phase out old models as new models come in But they never call it a next-gen system or make a big deal Or do they be in a next-generation what they do is maybe that if you have like like phones which sort of the oldest one Eventually say hey look that this point this will no longer be the newer software You'll have to pick up the next hardware, but it'll be like every six to eight years So if people complain it won't really be an appropriate complaint consider that beforehand you would get four to five years. Oh, yeah So yeah, maybe I can so let's transition a little bit You got some some some breaking news here kind of from Santa center not out there publicly yet She hasn't tweeted anything yet bars. I'm aware. I've been on Twitter We had about a lot, but sweet sweet about a lot, but she hasn't said some of this specific stuff So why don't you share with us? Well, what you got from Santa center here? Sure. Sure. So Again, we're gonna be talking about all of this With my with our recording on my end of things too, right? So we're gonna kind of continue sort of delve into this It seems like this is maybe maybe so I'll go ahead and sort of read like a piece of a dialogue So I came to her after the legend artist sort of news I've been trying to put together a video that may still happen But anyway, I'll just go ahead and read what what I sort of faster and then I'll give her you guys So I'm currently working on a video about Pokemon release dates what it says about the rest of the plan Basically, there are three games looking Gen 9 Pokemon Platoon 3 and Breath of the Wild 2 with legends arc is coming January. It leaves the mark spot open Do you think it's possible? So tune free releases before the end of the display mark She then replies with two fairly size paragraph for the next mainline Pokemon games after legends Yes, they are planned for late 2022 likely a new gen looking how TPC want to release legends as early as possible Breath of the Wild 2 was initially planned as one of the last games in 2021 And I personally can see December release. It's a development goes well For so tune 3 it's planned as early 2022 Titles so before the end of the fiscal year like March the strong possibility Maybe something could shift if breath while we get played But usually Nintendo doesn't like to shift fiscal year's game. So the big news here is Is that's platoon 3 apparently is a really 20. Yeah, it's a title for the fiscal year In other words if Pokemon legends up this January that leaves February or March force in free And you look at have a whole bunch of implications And if you look at Nintendo's history with switch, they seem to have a big game almost every March Yeah, every March. Yeah animal crossing last time You know, we had breath of the wild before that during the launch I can't remember if you're under this year. Yeah monster hunter this year. I'm trying to remember what happened in 2018 I feel like there was something 18 might be the exception Yeah, I feel like there was something it might even been like a port game. I can't remember there was there was something Yeah, but and then obviously coming up We know well, I was presuming that it was gonna be Pokemon in March and then we got the date for January So it's like, okay. Well, what's the March game? Is that gonna be breath of the wild 2 and now we have her saying no Splatoon 2 is actually planned to be early 2022 Which might not be that surprising considering this one of the earliest 2022 games announced and so was Pokemon legends Arceus announced right around the same time So it's sort of like, okay, then maybe they're both there. Maybe that's their their pair for early 2022 And if that's the case and breath of the wild isn't a holiday 2022 games You can't rule out that breath of the loud 2 might be a holiday 2022 game We don't know and it is going to come out this year Well, not only does her December talk possibly matter because Nintendo has released big games in September Can't forget Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 20 plus million seller released in December now switch pro Coming out potentially September October and all that possible conversation leading to breath of the wild 2 potentially be in that switch pro combo launch and You look at the launch timing October might be it maybe I Don't know coming together, right? It's like yeah like a puzzle It seems like everything is starting to make sense Maybe it sounds too good to be true But if you just kind of think about it right like Splatoon 3 seems so far along And if we are going to be getting a tournament at E3, I feel like it's highly indicative that the game is around the corner and a march Release they isn't really that crazy and as your point right like Ledger's arc is is technically announced Here's what you and three and coming out both for Splatoon 3 So and if you just looking at the footage like what you and three looks far more Polish the development led to our right, right? It's from Nintendo, but not a fair competition. Yeah But it's not out of the question No Not at all. This is just it's all fascinating right now because We both been covering rumors and reports and all that heading up to E3 here can't ignore E3's are on the corner. Okay two weeks away. We're gonna be E3, you know, well, I guess three weeks from now. It's technically all over but It's I will here's the thing. We've already had a whole bunch of news dropping this week, right? I mean even coming up. We still have Sonic anniversary stuff coming apparently on 27 just like this past day. We had Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter things happening You know, we have Sony dropping a thing. We're in the period where yeah E3 is coming but all this news keeps dropping ahead of time and We kind of probably still expect a Pokemon presents Maybe even somewhere in the next couple of weeks before E3 to at least see footage like yeah We got dates. We didn't see footage, right? It was kind of weird to get release dates without footage and trailers attached It was really a really weird way to get release dates, but yeah, it makes me skeptical Even though normally I I was like oh Yeah, you know for tomorrow until we got the release date. So now yeah, I'm not it's what it's one of those like Are they doing that because there won't be a presents and they're gonna save all the footage for E3 or are they doing that because You know even like Sam was under didn't say she said I'm Like who knew they were gonna drop dates before, you know She still told me they're out of it that you know there is gonna be a present still But obviously the dates are out. What the hell does that even mean? Why are they doing this and I don't know Maybe they're trying to set people up to be like, okay, you know what's coming in in November You know what's coming in January, you know what games we have announced Maybe they want people speculating and hyping things up for E3 That could be possible This is a different Nintendo a business-oriented tender one that wants to make money and the money's at the hype You build the hype you let the fans build up the hype and the anticipation and Bada bing bada boom you sell millions and millions and millions of copies of things Even if they end up maybe not as good as maybe you want them to be I'm not gonna reference any specific game there I'm just saying that this is just kind of how the cycles gone with Nintendo good bad or otherwise all their games are Selling the gangbusters and they're letting fans get hyped I mean think about how many times they've mentioned breath of the wild to so far without giving us news You do know what comes on. Hey, we know you want to see it. We need a little bit more time Hey, like not talking about kind of makes more Rabbit for the information. Yeah, that's a prime four. Don't know anything, right? Band out of three Development's going well. I think I've heard that 30 times in the last year Right, but one these things when they find divulge information People will freak out. They're these these out trailers are gonna be trending They're gonna perform really well visibility. It's great marketing Amazing and I think Nintendo probably knows what they're doing, you know, and you bring this full circle Just imagining that Nintendo is somehow considering dropping the bomb on switch pro right before e3 like You know setting aside the information you got it starts to make things like remember how good Splatoon 3 look Like it just looked unbelievable compared to Splatoon 2 and you're sitting there like okay Maybe Splatoon 2 was built out the Wii U engine. This is all new thing all new visuals That was my thought process, but now I'm like, but what if that was actually switch pro footage and They just didn't tell anybody and That's why it looks so crisp like like I think it was like 4k Go on yeah, I was gonna say what if it was like 4k down sampled the 1080p for YouTube kind of what I'm Because down sampled 4k it looks I'm just a smidge crisper the native 4k But that's just my thought process on that. Yeah, I did the thought definitely crossed my mind at least We've seen them do weird things where we see the trailer and then they put out like actual images that are shot Like natively at 1080p and they look a lot better than actual in-game sure it's We've seen weird things like that. I've actually heard a lot of people complain that From something in three like it still seems fairly early on But I thought it looked pretty good I look up for some pretty typical for Nintendo games in general though Like you're more than a year out when we see them Even when it's within a year of release by the time we see that final product There is a noticeable difference Yeah, sometimes they have placeholders It you know when they're footage of the hey, this is a placeholder. We're still working on that asset This just looks good enough We just dragged this out of a prior to the fume game or some other asset we had laying around like it's something that happens You know quite often I even look at you know something like Breath of the Wild people didn't talk about it much because it already looks So good in 2016 by the time it came out I mean it was just that much better the frame rate was just that much smoother Some of the textures just looked that much better the physics were just a hair more responsive compared to when I played it E3 is one of those yeah that game was pretty close to being done and there were still you know pretty significant improvements heading up to launch So yeah, this is just guys. This is insane. We're in the lead up to E3 This is just news bomb dropping everywhere at this point We don't have to wait long to find out to talk Achimachizuki knows what the hell he's talking about it's either getting announced before E3 or it's getting announced at E3 and Honestly, if Nintendo is actually can you know worried about their partners who might be putting pressure on them to announce it So they can show footage at E3 of switch pro versions of games then I mean this is another speculation just the toss to the wind Microsoft's going day two is Nintendo going day one before all the third-party publishers go so they can Get switch pro out there as well. That's just something to throw out in case They don't reveal switch pro before E3 and they want to use E3 to Announce it. I I can't believe I'm even talking about switch pro at E3. I can't even Yeah, I always expect this to be happening Month later, right September. It's yeah, I've been bad in September all year. Oh, it's September That's what they did with the light September release in November. All right And that was only with you that's only with you something that it makes that for this year, right? Yeah, it was totally coming up for by the fiscal year, right? And I point maybe expect to reveal in January, but if it's getting revealed right before E3 then It's the number like this makes a lot of sense. This isn't just a nobody putting this out there This isn't a rumor monger. This is someone who's talking to people who are Assembling these things right now like making them and getting them out to you know Developers who are who got dev units like this is and they don't and they don't even know the name of it Which is kind of crazy We do know yes straight straight from the this is straight from Nintendo Yeah, you already know about but yeah, it basically while there was a report from the case I want to put out like 30 million piece of the switch for the fiscal year then 10 of themselves that 25.5 your best. Yeah, that's maybe them low ball Right because you don't want to you you don't want to mislead your investors, right? Yeah, anything you underestimate you don't overest. Yep, so but 25.5 million is still a ridiculous amount Keep in mind. I think what lasted they saw about 28 and that was a record year by far So if they have a year that's comparable to that now when COVID circumstances sort of diminishing That's the gist that they have a lot of strong hardware and software And yeah, and here's and here's my thing too while twos for two legends are kiss Maybe a split road all come out Not right before the end of the year. Yep, that makes a lot of sense. Also also He notes he notes in here. I was just glancing through it again He notes that people are obviously gonna be concerned. There's no way the Nintendo is gonna release it that soon They're not gonna be able to there's gonna be short part shortage. He notes that the SOC and everything they're using internally Nintendo has absolutely zero issue getting those parts because the part orders for those are not in competition with any other product on the market So whatever the hell Nintendo is using there are the only people using it Yeah, and it's also possible that the time for a long time if they you know made requests well for the shortages and Yeah, that's the order would have been in like a year Yeah, they would have that anything there's a lot more questions, right? Yeah, he said he said the only thing that they that could potentially be a problem something like Bluetooth chips are in competition with a bunch of people Yeah, but I feel like what may happen That there will be hardware out there to get but if it's one of those situations for a Nintendo fails to Understand how much demand there will be they won't be able to quickly recoup and that that supply so they can meet the man That's I think the issue here. There will be some supply There's won't be if there's a demand beats out that supply too quickly and it may not be able to respond as Yeah All right, well, I want to thank I'm just restart for coming out for this quick discussion Be sure head on over to his channel because probably around the same time This is up he will have his his discussion with me up as well, and we're going to go even deeper I'm even holding back some thoughts I have right now Just specifically for that discussion because we're going to be deep diving pretty big over there And as always true into other videos I will probably be doing a daytime live stream For you guys because I won't be able to stream at night because I have some friends coming over to watch a Milwaukee Bucks Playoff game, so we will get a stream going here in the day There's too much to talk about right guys too much And this is before we even get into the day and new news happens because there seems to be news happening every single day Great, so yeah, this is crazy. I haven't told you. I'm actually a heat fan. So our teams are boy Yeah, be ready to go down 3.0 tomorrow We're ready to go to but but uh yeah looking good for old Jimmy Butler over there. I hope jay brother plays better But uh, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna do part two for discussion really soon. So make sure to tune it. Yeah