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We're back to explore that in a documentary Well, we interviewed a series of different people with different perspectives and different viewpoints To get to the bottom of this trend that's on the rise in the capital So follow me as we explore county lands Directed by Anne Smith, Germain, Laura UK team. Okay Whilst there is no official definition typical county line activity involves a gang usually made up of young males From a large urban area traveling to smaller locations such as county or coastal towns to sell class a paraphernalia specifically These three things you see on the screen That's tough So hold on hold on. Let me see some real quick. I don't know. Let me see some Video 11 days ago. Okay, so they still posting but they've clearly went away from what worked You got to go you got to do the documentary the documentary worked Get back to it man, whatever V4 YAV media You know what the people want don't give us that bullshit that you would I just seen it might not be bullshit But don't give it to us. We don't want it They want this majority of these games Function with a degree of affiliation and loyalty. They may challenge an existing group From the local area or another county lines enterprise enterprise Which often causes Incidents of violence. I'm reading it. I lost first. I know some of y'all can't read so I got y'all All begins to the origins to where it starts as I explore county lands I'm about to meet a gang a notorious gang trappers drug dealers And they're about to explain what county lines is and give us an insight into this growing Epidemic to the top gangs typically exploit children to deliver from the urban to the county location using intimidation violence depth bondage and or grooming adult Often addicts and Vulnerable females are also exploited for their prop properties or to assist with dealing within the county market You know what's crazy? When the teacher used to call on me to read nah, I'm good, but now that's like, you know, I'm Probably one of the greatest readers To ever touch the internet. They say thank you for taking the time to speak to me to talk about County lines and breaking that down. Yeah, what is county lines? What does that mean? What does this start with OT? What does it mean to go OT? As you got more likely you're gonna be selling crack Where'd you get that from? Where'd you get cracking hair from? Where did that come from? Different sources, different sources, different areas Obviously, now we're looking and saying what are the oddest things, but we get from people as early as we're from And what kind of people are you getting it from? Thanks to people people that you don't even expect people in the seats When you get a real big thing about this thing here What things right now this hair, you know, this is a key Yeah, so it's that's 56,000 if you're broken down now Yeah You know the games time out now. That's a kilo of cocaine My kilo crack kilo of cracking. That's how much how much does that work? 56,000, I'm broken down What does that mean, broken down into what? Broken down into little packs like this This is about, what I say, the second door that I'm trying to get about So what is that there that you have? This is about seven doors, this is what we call a pack You know, what a pack is is basically a mixture of heroin and then crack You know what you're doing? You take this up to OT Right, people always want to be, like put a put a bag on Like put a pooch iced tea Why do you got this on? What is this? Who would take it up to OT? Like how old would they be? A 15 year old kid would take that up to OT country to sell You started at 15 years old? Started what at 15 years old? Selling drugs? Yeah, taking drugs Selling that thing about the cash And what about your school teachers, your parents? What does your parents think? Your school teachers? What are you not going missing? Man, I know people that dropped out of high school at 15, 14 Not saying that I condone any of this YouTube I'm just saying You know what I'm saying? No, I mean, I got it in the phone between just after I left school I've got a way of it, but most kids here don't disappear And the money's ruined, you know what I'm saying? What do you mean the money's ruined in terms of profit? Yes, good money Can you break that down? What do you mean how much? How much would that be? Seven bills And how much could you make? This is 57 bills, but this costs a lot of them We call it amps You know, it's about 150, 150, 400 You're not going to pay more than 1,500 for it Anything for two Yeah, and that's about 2,800 pound worth And you break it down to get that worth into 10 pounds shots 20 pounds shots, 50s, grams, you know And then, yeah And you know you said that a young person that's maybe 15 years old Takes that up to country, how did they take that? Where did they, how did they carry that? The brain and the heart You see the shape of it? That's crazy That goes in someone's arse Plug it, what does that mean? Because I've heard, for those who don't know what that term is Can you break down the word plug it? What does that mean, plug it? Can I really put it off your arse? Simple And do you do that? No, no, I don't need to So who does that now? The guy that said not the youngest The youngest That thing there? Yeah The youngest is on some guys You just have to take it off that Yo, the younger's are calm They take it up, that's crazy That's, that's, that's I don't want them to say no They don't want to do that They can't work enough If they say no, yeah I'm never going to bully them So then I'm not going to bully them I'm pressing them right now You've got to do this I'm not going to set my mouth on something So then he owes me to you So you've got to go off Do you actually put them in debt? I put them in debt You haven't done it the first time I haven't done it I haven't And how long have you been doing this for? Since I was 16 So how long is that now? 12, 30 years You've been using your keys to K that To country LT for 12, 15 years Now that name, you know That one out of 18 I have not owned And you've never been caught for that? No Wow 16 No, at the end of the day They get caught, the youngest What they're going to get Is I get caught, I'm a big man The judge is going to look at me So you're the guy that used to do it now Oh that's incredible So what happens if they take That drug up to OT And for example they get robbed Or they don't come back with you What happens In debt forever You get locked into that life When you go up there and you get robbed Sometimes that's what they Is that what they be talking about? These dudes in these dumb ass masks My bad, these dudes in these masks They said they take them up They put them in debt That's how they do it Give them an example, yeah That was a year, yeah, I was 16 And I gave them two packs And the first pack came back to me No problem The second pack came lost And I couldn't even get Me and my buddy Scott, they said You know what? You didn't rob us That's the first thing that they said You did not rob us You know what? They said You know what? I ain't smart enough for that You must have fucked up You know what? Let's give them a blame You done lost again So we sat in there and got a drunk And I took him in the hospital Yeah, simple You know what? You put him in hospital At the end of the day You need to be lucky When you come to this table Wait, he got him drunk first Then put him in I guess because what? The liquor numbs the pain Why do they do that? Yeah, when you come to this table It's not for little kids You see what I'm saying? If you're a little kid You want to get involved I understand you're dealing with big men I'm gonna do you Like a big man So why little kids though? All people that you could choose to use To have a grown man You know, why is it? Impressionable minds Particularly a little kid That he was choosing Easy to manipulate Easy to manipulate Wow And it could be a 15 year old kid Yeah I wonder if it was easy for him To manipulate that shirt over his body That muck Tighten the muck That shit crazy My bad Well, let's focus Well, he wants to act like a big man in it You know what I'm saying? So I'm gonna put big man in his pocket But in return, he's like a big man Wow You know what I'm saying? Like pay respect to the thing Because if I fucked up at those ages I would have got punched up I would have got killed By the oldest that's sending me So you're telling me this is almost like a cycle You had, you had, I would have Yeah, that's chatting with her That actually, you know When you think about chatting here A lot of shutters here That's gonna watch this and let you They're gonna say, well It's about the cats But when I'm a big man I can tell you It's not just the cats It's just the videos and all of it Because you get into that life Yeah, you're used to the money And I thought for that You spent all this time So you've got a lot of decretion You've got a lot of jobs You're probably using that money As you guys are crushing at your boys So you get caught in a circle And get a chat You follow me So that's what it is And how do you go about manipulating these young kids In terms of what in this lifestyle Because I mean By the sands and things It doesn't sound like a lifestyle That is really fun I feel like he's contradicting himself A little bit though And he's saying These kids they want to be in it But then he's saying I'm manipulating them to be in it Which one is it? A little bit of both? Or what's going on? You just said you do though So these kids that you're targeting Specifically they don't have parents They're lost They're lost And what does that mean? They've got no role models I'm their role model That's their role When the money's extended to school And they're coming home late That's because he's in me in it Because he likes what he sees in it How I talk to him Now I'm not bullying him man I'm showing him a path That could be a death for him You follow me? Now Manzi's looking at me Saying to get a piece from my son To some jobs Yeah but That money's paying for his bills You're coming home You're putting money in your pocket Manzi You follow me? But the trade off is not But looking like looking at Japan The trade off ain't worth it You know what I'm saying? As a parent your kids going out Doing this, doing that But they don't realize They're putting their life at risk You know what I'm saying? Their futures at risk For a little short gratification You know what I'm saying? Because there's no long term gratification At this level of trapping There's no long term gratification You know what I'm saying? You got to stand out Go above and beyond in the trap game To make your way all the way to the top Which is very few do the soap You know what I'm saying? Hey What's going on? Thank you for the follow You're coming home this thing You don't have to worry about it I'm teaching it how to be a man Can I ask you a question? I will say this though Trapping Some of the things you learn in that game They really equate to the business world So if you like let's say If you're trapping through college or something That's real life experience I should be able to go get some credit Supplied for trapping This is real life I'm really out here You know what I'm saying? Looking for the bottom line Going through ups, gains and Damn okay Salute for the follow Did your parents know what you was up to at your age? I was about 16 My mom called me at 16 And what was the result? What happened when she was She called police She called police And I had She called me when I was 16 Yeah you was moving stupid anyway She should have called the police on you 16 grand and your bank account At 16 years old What they were supposed to believe The police was putting trap money In your bank account 16,000 pounds at 16 years old Yeah And when you was OT Where did you want to think you was? Well since I've seen some of my friends I wanted to be daily this month You know what I'm saying? Yeah link it to me somewhere Tell me where you sent the link to I took care of myself You know what I'm saying? I was all with my boys anyway So they wanted half of me to disappear You know? I mean I have a few questions But I could say I just stayed with my friends After the week And this thing called trapping I mean it seems quite glamorous And it's quite a trend Among young people What do you feel Or how do you think influences This so called trap OT County line Gang star, rapper lifestyle The money You know What do you say influences That make it Yeah I'm saying music I'm not going to say rappers But I'll say what you listen to The seven of kind are last Some of the people Drone music You know what I'm saying? What is it? Can you break down what Drone music is? Drone music is right out music That's what it is, right out music So if I'm listening to it My dancing is righting out That makes sense What is righting out music? Yeah now go on for your ups What is ups to me? Hey! I ain't gonna lie he getting in depth with this interview He want every little Like explanation to every word This is If you know nothing about nothing Like this is a good one to watch Position Whatever is rising in you Taking them up But that almost sounds like a sport You know what? It's got The adrenaline of a sport It's got the adrenaline That stuff where a lot of people get stuck in it And a lot of the yeast get drawn into You know what I'm saying? Because when you have a punch You get a kind of adrenaline You know what I'm saying? It's a rush You see what I mean? As keen as I was To speak to the elders I was so keen to speak to the young man I couldn't help but feel that The older man was marketing this Making it seem glamorous I know that there's more to this And I am gonna find out Filming The gang, the elders Refused to be filmed With the young G's One thing's for sure There's a total disregard So What the hell do you get pure Hennessy from? The young G's Do say, okay, turn me up Jack Daniels, throw it away There's a total Pure Hennessy, right here Pure white Hennessy Okay So Taking it back I was gonna ask you, how did it start? How did you get into this trapper Countyland drug dealing Who approached you, did someone approach you? How did it start? Also known What I would call it is the grooming process You always have to start from the process There's always a process you have to go from Me I'm like this older I was living for a couple of years And then we went to prison So I took his life What's going on? Obviously you have to build your own empire after What do you mean by build your own empire? You got to be in secret, but it's young G's together How old could they be? 15, 14 They could be as young as 14 Of course, because you have to be a family You don't have to be doing the game medicine You don't have to send them out there They come back to get it They get it right, they come back I don't understand why they need to blur their voices out Like, just the face masks would be cool enough Like, you know what I'm saying? Actually they make him From guy enough to country They make him up to 100 pounds a day At 13 years old At 13 years old, so if you are Going to go to a 13 year old And then tell him, listen You can make 100 pounds a day And then what I do at 95 Get a minimum wage Of course he's going to make 100 pounds Because the government are not doing enough So you can go to a grown man and do that as well You know what I'm saying? 14, 15 year olds Can they work in the UK? Do they need a work permit? I know under the age of 16 You can't work without a work permit In the United States So, what I'm not sure about out there What about his parents? Don't you think about what his parents For his mum, his dad, his carer, her carer But what about the parents? Where did the parents come into this? We don't talk about them this year We don't talk about them It's about the money That you are not going to make money You know what I'm saying? The parents don't have nothing to do with that They don't want them If they get in our way They'll take the child from them They can't disappear They can't move us You take them in almost like family Look after them like family Because at the end of the day They are the ones who get your money They are the ones who get your supply They are the ones that are needed And obviously it's because of the government They can't do shit for them That's why they always turn around and come to us Because we can provide everything that they need We provide them with money, women, everything About 13 years old 13 years old, 14, 15 They're gassing this However, when they want to come to us And if they're ready to come to us And if they want to make some serious money But if they don't pay around them They're good You got to think about the hours You get a documentary on this Think about the hours He said 100 a day Or you can go work a minimum wage job And get less Think about that If you're working county How many hours are you working? You're putting in 15, 16 hour days If you're working county 16 divided by 100 is What? Let's do the math 100 divided by 625 an hour No, sir You feel me? Absolutely not But a little kid Not thinking about how many hours You're telling them You showed them this money You showed them these girls You showed them these cars These jewelry They put in 16 hour days And only making $6 making $6.25 an hour, and they don't got time to be seeing none of the stuff that you've already showed them in that process, they don't got time. They'll never see none of that, at least not for the first two, three years, because they don't get no days off and they work in 16 hours a day. It's incredible. Look, lastly, if anything can be done to stop county lands, what can be done to stop county lands? What's the case going up to sending drugs for all the pays, all the men? It's so simple for you to look at it this way. Literally, if the government can do more for the, let me tell you one thing, sometimes we have views that come to our country and you all believe how clever they are. But the reason that they're out of the country is because the government can't do enough for them, giving them the right opportunities. They don't pass the GCSEs, they don't have nothing to do this on the street. But even the ones that do pass the GCSEs, they'll still end up doing the same shit. So because of lack of parental supervision, good education, lack of resources, opportunities, these are the factors that are causing these ideas to come into your radar? That, thank you. Social disorganisation, areas like Hackney, places like Brixton, Peckham, Westlander, Southlander, Eastlander, Newton, Ilford, where money is scarce and opportunities are absent, these young vulnerable kids are coming up and are joining your gang. They're going to see rats all over their ends and what are you going to do? Of course they're going to come to us to make money. Obviously you've got to think of what they're thinking right now, they're thinking they didn't let you go on the hook. There you go, there you go, that's what they're all thinking for the rest. But you don't know the struggle when we go free. So if someone's caught up in your turf in your area, what could happen? What would happen? First get on set and we're most lucky from it. We have to shut them up, no playing around, we have to feed our families, get rid of them. This is a piece for us. Don't lie, don't get fucking straight up. They're just coming to take what hours in it. They're coming to take what hours. That's our turf. Why are you coming to sell food in our turf? At the end of the day, whatever they have is going to be our profit at the end of the day. It's going to be our profit, so let them come to the ends because we're struck tough. Do you feel that the police are helpful in terms of tackling gangs and seriously violence? There's more than seven dickheads. They're full of dickheads. They're dangerous. They're defuse and strict. They're trying to kill us. They're trying to kill us in sight. They're trying to do things to kill us and stick it in there. They have guns. They would kill us in a second if they wanted to. Straight if they had a gun on them. I know they would want to kill us. What could be done to tackle county lands? Do you think that anyone anywhere could do anything to stop young kids being sent up to Cardiff, Manchester, Birmingham, Newton to sell drugs for elderly men? Listen, this is how kids are these days. They don't want to chase money. What's the fastest way of making money for us and the kids, 15-year-olds? Would you tell me what the fastest way would be? Open this up, give it to the kids in the county house. Two hours, whip that up. You're making cash. Two hours straight. You can make two grand in two hours. There you go. Easy. That's better. Pull this up the kids' arse and you're done. That goes up the kids' arse? This. This is a kilo of it. The verbiage is crazy. This money, sometimes you've got to swallow it and share it out afterwards. You have to swallow it? And you share it out. There's nine you can do about it. There's nine police can do about it. Because in today's, how it is today, everyone wants money. Everyone wants money. So us, we're going to do what we have to do to get that money, which is this. And the youngest will always come twice because they need that money too. Can I ask you a question? And they've lost it. What would happen if they've lost your drugs? I'm concentrating hardest. I have not concentrated this hard to understand what people are saying. It's because they're muffling them and trying to make their voice unrecognizable. But then I'm trying to read at the same time and still listen. I've got to choose one. How would you get it back? What would you say quickly? I know, but then you get me, you get me, you get me, you get me, you get me, you get me, you get me. You get me, you get me, you get me. You get me, you get me, you get me. You get me, you get me, you get me. I have to watch it all. Because a good, a good question and I mean an important question I ask myself is where do these drugs come from? How does 100, 150 kilograms of cocaine, heroin get into England, into the bullets month in, month out? Government. Government. It's the only kidding, it's the government. You think the government are ones that bring the drugs in? Because they're the ones in charge of the border. OK, you try now taking something so small. I'll give you one of these little things. You try to take down the airport and try to cross the airport. I can guarantee you will be arrested. Where do you think this whole keynote and many more keynotes you've seen coming from the government? And what about guns? Where the guns come from? You've got the same king, brother. About the drugs, but the guns for sure. I see a question. The government are after money. Like I said, everyone's after money. They're not going to let you know. They're trying to get money. We're trying to get money. So if we need to buy the gun for safety, if we want to get the drugs to make money, then that's all we have to do, innit? What's that? What's that? £200 a week? £50 a month. And £50 a week. £200 a week. And these kids that go missing for, how long do they go missing for? I think he's done good with this interview. The interview guy. Because you've got to literally go into these interviews and play dumb. And ask every single question. Get clarification on every single thing, so it seems more in depth. You know what I'm saying? For the average viewer that's looking that's never had this experience in real life, they can kind of put themselves in their shoes for a second. Where are they? I built in a drug user's house. Where are these kids being? They're using drugs for a good two days a week. And obviously they're not going to say shit. Because you've got the buses out there and laying all over the house. Once they see anything, once they see anything, you can't look it up. What if it was your little brother or your cousin? How would you feel if someone else was doing what you guys were doing to your brother or nephew or uncle or cousin? No question. Listen, when you have no emotions when you're going to do the madness and when you're doing it, do you think you're going to give two shits about these little units and what their brothers are going through? Since the sample truth I'm telling you is straight. How did it all start for you in terms of, again, this trap, drug dealing, county line lifestyle, this fast life, this gangster lifestyle? How did it start for you? Me personally, it starts always at home, it always starts at home. It starts when there's no father's here, bro. And it starts when there's the same old, same old mother's circle trying to help our brother in the house, trying to be the man in the house. Because, you know, father isn't good to give me that consent to be the man, to be the king. This guy's giving us a real, real, real, real, you know what I'm saying? Let me not play it up for the cameras. Let me truthfully tell you where it came from. You know, I've had emotions and not been emotional, you know what I'm saying? So, in a way, we're finding ourself why we're trying to make money on the streets. And you can't get a job because you're able to get a job at the time because you don't know what's to then track and that can start at any date. No matter what age you are, that can start at any date. What age? What's the youngest it can start at? It can start at 10, 11, 10. What's the only way? Exactly. If you run into the family, if you run into the family, if you know what you're doing because you know that you want to know what you're doing. Something, man. If you don't have an older figure, maybe not a brother or a dad, but you don't have an older figure to give you that man status when you're out there. No, I'm having a nice school. In the world at a young age, you have to define yourself, forcing the kid to do anything that's necessary to stay alive or to keep his drugs. So that wouldn't have to go to jail or that kid's not criminal record. And what does that do? I mean, it gets older, it stops hair, it looks like you're getting a job. Now, they just saying that as a normal person. I believe that this is the smartest person in the room. Out of these dudes, this has got to be the smartest person. You're falling in the Lord doing this and you see how far you can get a job at. There's reasons why some people go criminal record. Have you tried to apply for jobs? Well, that's the thing with me. Firstly, it hasn't even got that far. They wouldn't even, anything like that. I've sent my CVs out there. Even when I'm sending my CVs out, I've come to come to it. Like, you know, proper to do your part to get the job, you know? But then even that alone, it doesn't, it doesn't stand you on the stand. It's like, it just looks at you in the same light. No, you don't use your women to do your job, does it? So they're trying to look for something special. It's like every job we need to take, they're trying to look for something special, of course. But when they look at our youth as well, they're thinking, we don't know, you might be here. You know, criminal markets, theatre. It's weird that's why certain people, you know, that's why you send certain chicken shops. There's not a lot of people in there working, but if you go to a chicken shop and send your CV out, they'll probably, they'll even allow you. And that's just a chicken shop, that's the lowest of them all. Well, it's trucking the only way out of the hood. It's trucking the only way out of the hood. Well, you know, the only way is on the hood. It's the only way, full stop. It's the only way, full stop. It's the only way, full stop. It's the only way, full stop. It's the only way, like, if you want to make it to a certain status, you want to make it to a certain level. And that's crazy, man, because it really, really don't be no neighborhood heroes. The only heroes you really see in a neighborhood, if you, you know, if you're in a certain neighborhood, is the drug dealers. Like, it ain't, it ain't no doctors coming out of the hood. It ain't, it ain't no, you know what I'm saying? It ain't no doctors, no therapists. No, you know, no, nobody. And if it is, they're not coming back to the hood. They gone, they're done. They're not coming back talking about, yeah, I was in the hood. I made it out. You can be like me too. You don't, you don't got to go this route. No, do you only see in the drug dealers? You only see in the steppers. Of course, you can only, you can only have a hero if you've seen him before. The only people you can look up to is the people that you physically see or know about. As shocked as I was, I couldn't help but think how many other kids were trapped in this last door. When we meet a mother of a child who's been found in OT country on numerous occasions, so it's called me up. I just want to be there. Mother. This is the space we're using. Mom's downstairs. Mom is really worried, as you can imagine. She's scared, she wants to remain anonymous. And this space allows us to do that. How you doing, honey? How you doing? Thanks for your time. As you know, we're here doing a project. Hey, that cup, bro. Smooth out. That's what that is. That's the name of this shop, the Kine, oh, the Kinehands. Wait, what are you talking about? Thank you for your time today. As you know, we're doing a documentary on Kinehands exploring OT country and child dreaming and exploitation. I just got a couple of questions to ask you. The first question, really, how did you feel when you found that your child was going OT when he was found in the country? How did that make you feel? Very hungry. God damn. I gotta move again? Oh, okay. We ain't got to move that much. All right. That's cool. It's sad. I have some... My fault is about my son going to OT. Looking for him disappeared. Every night, every day. Don't know where your child is. And some stranger. Take your son or daughter and take them to OT to do whatever they have them to do. And they have to do it because they are scared for their lives. And sometimes these people are strangers to you. This is definitely from a mom's perspective. And take them OT and do whatever they ask them to do and they have to do it because they are scared for their own life. And sometimes these people are strangers to your children. That's definitely a mother's perspective because what we know already is this child has met this person. He's seen the lifestyle. It's been offered to him. He's been around enough to know that some of the ends and outs and develop a relationship, a trusting relationship, then that OT stuff came into play. But this is cool to have a mom's perspective and what her mindset really is and the innocence of her child. Because I'm going to play devil's advocate. Not really, but I'm going to say it. Some of these people know exactly what they're getting themselves into. You know what I'm saying? Some of these children or some of these OT steppers, they know what they're doing. They know what's happening. I mean, how long did it take you to find where he was? It took me like six days to know where my son was. When I get to know where my son was from the police and then all we know we get a call from the police saying your son is in OT, get arrested by the police. Wow. I mean, that must be such a difficult situation to handle that your precious son, your own child is in a place that he's never been before with criminals in a dangerous place. That must be one of the most difficult things to live in. Very devastating. My family, my husband, we don't sleep. We don't eat. All we're thinking about what would become of my son because he has a future and then right now we don't know what his future holds for him. He used to go to school, try to have a degree. Now he's scared. He's afraid to walk on the street. He's afraid of people. All he's saying is that he knows that he doesn't know whether he'll be going to prison who is looking for him and he's very scared for his life. So this is like life after county lines. They hide the PTSD of it all. I guess, yeah, for sure. The kid got caught, probably lost the work, you know what I'm saying? So these dudes probably looking for him. At the end of the day, you know what I'm saying? It is a mind manipulation to go back on what I said. Their mind is still being manipulated and played with. Even if they do come to them and know what's going on, they don't fully know what's going on. They don't know the extent of it all. And there's thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of other kids that are experiencing this, that go missing for periods of five to ten days and their parents are not known, their parents are not known where they are. What can be done to stop this county lines OT country? In essence, child trafficking. Oh man, that's crazy because I was going to say that earlier. Remember when I paused the video and looked up? I was going to say, well, isn't Andrew Tate going through a lot of human trafficking thing? Isn't this the same thing? Couldn't the charge be human trafficking? We have a lot to do with health care in this situation because we cannot do it on our own. We have nobody to do it on our own. All we can try to do is to speak to our children. But these people have big influence on your children. They try to tell them, we will give you this, we will give you that, but they want to live the high life and risk in your children's life into their high life society. So the government now needs to have parents to try to overthrow these people to secure your children. And then the government need to expose these people who they are, the name, the faces, let the public know who these people are and shame them. Give them some harsh punishment so that they know the place. If they want to do, they have the high lifestyle they need to do it on their own, not with people, children. You cherish them. You send them to school. You try to give them a life in this world. And these people take your children and mess the children, your children for life. So the government will cry out loud for the... You know, she's spitting facts. Because it's not like these adults when these children come to them, they turn them away. It's like, nah, okay, cool. Let me double down on whatever you're thinking. The government will help us stop these criminals from persuading your children and using your children as mules to carry the drugs for them. They need to do it on their own. But the government need to try their best enough to stop these people from using our children. That's powerful. But how? In what ways could they do it practically? There is so many ways the government can do that by having... They do a lot of searching on the road. But the homes, they have different places where these people have these drugs trafficking. They really need to do more and put more police to search the walls, more raids and stuff like that because that's illegal though. They got to have a reason to go open them cribs. So if the public is not, you know, being diligent and opening their eyes and paying attention, then they can't go just barging to nobody crib unless they have a reason. That is where it's starting from the homes where they have the different plans, where they have the different factories where they know the places where they have to go to raid these people and to put a stop into this mess because right now this one is in turmoil. People, because I even watched a documentary yesterday saying one person every five seconds is dying because of these drugs. I was looking at that programme last night and it's very bad. One person out of five seconds are dying. This is bad. Because it's taking place within Manchester, Luton, Birmingham, across the whole country, it's hard for agencies to work together to be able to identify this because this is taking place out of their remit, essentially. It's happening in other borders so there needs to be better multi-agency partnership. You touched on some fantastic points. I mean, it's incredible. I can't... I can't even explain or understand how you would feel knowing that he was brought up in... was he brought up in a single parent? No, both mum and dad. Both parents and his... my only child, I don't know whether I'm going to lose him for a few years, if he's going to prison or what's going to happen right now. All we have sleepless nights, he himself has sleepless nights and it's like messing up the home. It's messing up our home right now. Like there is no love or friendship anymore in our house, always a fight, always a... horrible, always scared for our lives and even my son is afraid of going to school. He's afraid of meeting people. He's afraid of doing things that he loves at the moment. It's tough. It's your time. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, it's tough. Well, I don't even know what to say. What an interview. Oh, my God. I'm not even going to lie to y'all. Dude is giving me real Danny Dyer vibes right now. Powerful stuff. Just finished interviewing a mother who's experienced and lived the trauma of her son being found in the country. I'm going to do another interview now. With another young man who was found in country OT in a trap house, a vulnerable young man that was found... Damn, he got all angles. He got the... the... the... the... the elders, the youngers in the trap house. He got the mom's perspective, the mother's perspective which is, you know, pretty powerful. And now he got the... the child. And that substance in his shoes is house. Not even going to lie, he covered all bases with this one. Goddamn, right in front of me. Thank you so much for your time. As you know, we're doing a documentary about Danny Lads. Let's get straight into it. Where did it start for you? How old was you when you first started? Trapping. I was 13, to be honest. 13 years old. 13 years old was when you first started? Yeah. That's young, man. So, who came to you? All the... all the run-ins came to me. They offered me big things money and stuff like that. So, they made the cars run-ins, the money, the girls run-in. So, that's what I would call grooming. I would call that grooming when you've got someone using money, cars, jewelry, clothes, that image as a bait to draw in young vulnerable men. For sure, that's heavy manipulation. And women to sell drugs, that's what I would call that. How'd you feel about that? They took me in. They took me in that family. They took me away, they gave me money, they gave me jobs. They asked me to get an incident, but I knew these men, and they brought me in. And what kind of things was you doing when you was going country? I was there, I was bored. They kept telling me to sell this stuff for them. They couldn't find a car in the back. They managed to hit me. At 13 years old, you was out of landing in a far place, at 30. And what about your parents? What did your parents think about where you was? How long was you gone for? It's close, I don't remember. They never called the parents to find out where their children was. Your parents, at 13 years old, let you go out. That's pretty typical in these neighborhoods. I think my mom asked some questions, but I had friends. They could just do whatever they wanted to. They could slide and go there and go there. I had to go tell my mom what was going on. Or maybe I didn't, and I just did. Nah, I had to, for sure. For three, four, five days, and then check with the parent of where you were staying. That's incredible. That is incredible. At 13 years old, wow. So how did you get to this point where you are now? You know what? I got used to it over the years. I didn't get caught, but I went back. So I lost out for money. For my car, my car, my trips. Yeah, I left last, I didn't. I had to help you. You get me. What would be a day today routine for you? What now? When you were in country OT, in a trap house, what would you, what would some of the things you would be doing, some of the people you would be seeing, some of the people you would be around? Oh my God. The worst type of customer is a crack. It's someone who is strung out on a class A that is injected or smoked. That is the worst type of, you know what I'm saying? And at 13, he having to be around them all day, every day. Yo. Oh my God. This is the worst. This is the worst. This is the worst. This is the worst. This is the worst. This is the worst. This is the worst. This is the worst. This is the worst. Can I ask you a personal question? Go on. How would you feel if that was someone that you cared about, someone that you loved, someone that was close to you, as a human being? How would you feel? How would that make you feel? My family remember my family that's what was the easiest thing in the movie, I don't care about them. If they weren't here, then it's not me. the level. Wait, my family, never my family. That's why I've got these youths doing it for me. I don't care about that. If they get back, it's on them. It's not on me. Come on, man. Never my family. I'm thinking like he coming from a prop, a place where I was roped in as a young man. You know what I'm saying? I didn't want to do it. Now I figured it out and I'm not doing it no more. No, I'm still in here is what he's doing. Level. What was life like growing up for you? To be honest, I came from a good home. A good home. I had a church during it. Parents went to church. They were from good education but it was the money. It was the money. There was no money in the house for the family. I didn't care what I wanted. I saw other kids with more than money and I didn't have that kind of stuff. So obviously I had to do it for myself. The world is born in the end and now I'm not. Now I'm not doing it. So how did your parents feel when they found out what your lifestyle was like? That's the thing, man. Comparing yourself to others, it'll drive you to do some wild stuff. What he was really up to. My mom was dead. That's why I'm a stress to my kids. They don't compare what you got to what other people got. You know what I'm saying? They road that they walk is different currently. We'll get there in time. You know what I'm saying? Don't do nothing out of your character. Just as a parent, bro, you just can't be naive, bro. To the fact that your kids could possibly be, you know what I'm saying? To the fact that your kids could possibly be having thoughts like, man, I need to go get money. I cannot go get money. Man, I'm going to start. Their minds are not ours. You know what I'm saying? You got to put yourself in your kid's shoes. Yes, we are adults, but we were once kids and we were a member. You know what I'm saying? So when you put yourself in your kid's shoes and try to figure out what's going on, it kind of makes it a little easier, man. You got to explain to them stuff, man. That's why when kids don't communicate, some parents don't think they need to communicate with their kids. Yes, you do. Communicate. Don't hit them with it. Don't worry about it. I'm grown. You're not staying in your place. No, tell them. Telling them the real or keeping them away from a lot of situations. If you could give a message to the young people, if you could share a message in terms of know what to do and how to avoid the slap stone, what would you say to them? I told you. Well, I'll just tell you. You said the same thing. Stuff will come. Just be patient. Don't do anything out of your character. And if I could rewind time, I would pay more attention in school because I was just bored in school. I told you all my IQ was off the charts and things of that nature. So what they was doing wasn't interesting to me. You know what I'm saying? Even when I got to college, I did some college. Even when I got there, it was like, yo, this shit is so ridiculous. Like, why am I here? I'm talking about when I was in college for a semester and a half and I was bored out of my mind. Every test was easy. All the homework, it was so simple. It was like y'all are finessing people in college. Y'all are really getting over. That's just my opinion. Y'all are really finessing people. I do not need to be here to learn this stuff. And I already knew all of it. Most of it. And if anyone could do anything anywhere to stop county lands, child trafficking, OT, trapping, drug dealing, isn't there anything anyone could do to stop this? Get something for the youth to do. Get them active. Don't keep them up to date. I ain't got ADHD. Always get something if you don't want to go to school. Get something else for them to do you know what I'm saying? You've come to life. Don't be good for them. More places to go, more places to exercise, maybe your skills to develop talent. Of course, of course. To build a career, more opportunities. I've just spoken to a young man that's just explained how he got into a lifestyle of drug dealing, county lands, OT, and he's shocking to hear the reoccurring factors of deprivation, of poverty, of low income, being factors that are affecting our communities, our young people, and forcing them and allowing them to come into the hands of some of London's most dangerous criminals, sending them to places that they've never been before, for periods of 10 to 15 days, for dangerous men. And parents not knowing where they are, schools not knowing where they are, care homes not knowing where their children are. Something needs to be done. Change needs to happen. Ali, thank you so much for your time. Thank you for opening up your restaurant and allowing us... It's a cool opinion, working, making money. Okay, Ali. Let me know what y'all think in the comments because this is definitely still a thing going on right now and it's still relevant till this day. And this... This got almost a million views five years ago. He still dropped some bangers, but they are interviews. Gotta go back to these dark amenity style, man. Till then, leave a like, comment, subscribe, turn on your post. I'm done.