One motor takes in .63 watts DC and lights up two one watt AC light bulbs. That's all you need to know to see that this motor puts out more watts than what takes to run it: Under a watt DC to run it; two watts AC output. Last year, Doug demonstrated a new type of electric motor/alternator designed 10 times more efficient than a conventional electric motor from the alone. This year he has come to the realization that some aspects of his motors can be found in the EV Gray motor. Many believe that ZPE is involved, and it needs a medium such as a battery to interface with conventional circuits. It makes sense in that the Bedini, Konzen, EV Gray, and Kipper motors all need batteries. He is making great progress on the pulse-motor—recent tests in El Paso, TX verified that it is an over unity device!