 The top runs incredible he does that it that's all Giants fans would want right incredible runs, and I know this is not a popular opinion Eli was always a Very good quarterback who had two great runs, and that's it and that's not Canton material So you you actually believe Eli Manning is not a Hall of Famer Absolutely, and you don't think that those two runs are enough to make you a Hall of Famer I don't think it should absolutely not because you get into that room and you've got these writers You've got these guys who've got agendas and all that kind of stuff the guys they want to support and and fight for You know it's different With guys who have gotten in and why don't think should have been in well There aren't too many of those but guys who haven't gotten in I think should have been and I don't I think this is a guy That if we're really being honest about it played great in the playoffs this year, so don't get me wrong Phenomenal beat the most unstoppable team of all time. Yes with a prayer And he shouldn't have been the MVP of that game Justin Tuck should have been the MVP of that game so He he was the Manningham pass is much much better. I mean that's an all-time great throw Yeah, and her all-time great catch. Okay The Tyree play, let's just call what it is Fortune okay, it's fortunate. He was a little bit of serendipity on his side, so to speak when you hear this You don't hear Hall of Famer. Where's your snapchat Don? Well, that's a Hall of Famer a tort. I don't know how much you listen to sports radio if at all only you only do you Not that's a Hall of Famer when I when I when I hear the I mean I didn't say didn't have good taste Fantastic taste. Yeah, I just believe for me. I hear what you're saying when I picture Eli Manning again We go back to the eye test the eye test tells you the eye is an interception No, isn't how many is thrown? No, no, no, that's not what I meant. There's a lot of them. That was very cute But that's not what I meant. It's like that's like that's what that was No, the eye test the eye test is when you take the eye test you go Oh, Aaron Rodgers is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen When you take the eye test you say Eli Manning is an average quarterback and and I My vision told me that but when I go back and look at 2007 and 2011 You can't forget that those things happen. No, I'm not forgetting that they have it's so impressive. Yes They were two great runs in what was otherwise an excitingly average career I Mean he he threw up Huge numbers because of the style of game now and and I was there was doing their pre and post game I was following them very intently in 2007 and then you know more like from this bit vantage point in 2011 I don't think there's any doubt That there was nobody more surprised that Eli got on that run that he did in both of those years Then maybe even Eli because they they were great. They were absolutely great That's not that's not his career. That's not how he has played his entire career He has not had where I mean what ten One of the runs the first one he threw what probably ten touchdowns and one pick in four games in in the Run to the first one That's a great run That's a great run. That's not who he's been his entire career But that's that to me that starts to become a tough argument because there are a lot of players and athletes Who are defined by these amazing moments that they have even if throughout the entirety of their career their flawed I mean Roberto Durand's a flawed fighter, but in his moments that we all When he got together with sugar a letter there there are things you saw that you go This is an all-time great and other moments when she go no, I think it's unfair You can't punish Eli for the fact that what where his greatness stood out the most was when it counted the most In two unbelievable playoff runs you go to the league you play 15 years on a team What's your goal getting a couple Super Bowls is it that's as good as it gets we just looked at it Rogers has won Breeze has won Mannings Payton squeaked out a second one and Tom Brady doesn't even count Look all I can tell you Is that he had two great runs, but for the rest of his career and playoff career for that matter I'm not taking away the two Super Bowls, but I'm also not Letting them control the entire narrative of his career because I don't think that's right I think when you take away When you take away those two Super Bowls, you would look at Eli Manning as just a guy And I'm not gonna so I'm not gonna take those away from I think he is a very good quarterback who had two great runs Never was the top five quarterback in the game