 Welcome back to the Wizards Forum 2023 and I'm delighted to be joined now by Bige van Gorp, who's the co-founder of Fibricek and you've just won a health prize. Go on, show us. Yeah indeed, we just won a prize. We're super super proud on it because with Fibricek I mean we started back in 2014 to transform cardiac care. We detect cardiac arrhythmias just using common devices like smartphones with a clear goal to prevent strokes. So this is a Wizards prize. The idea obviously helps prevent stroke. This really has a key role to play in reducing the health divide. No exactly, we truly want to be like accessible for each and everyone and that's also why we keep it very low level in the sense that you don't need any specific hardware devices. Just a regular smartphone is enough. We are available on more than 17,000 different devices and of course in some areas people don't ever devise themselves but then nurses can take their own and use it on the people. So we truly want yeah, health equality is a key element for us. Where do you see the potential for this? I truly hope that we can reach out globally and prevent 20% of all strokes that are happening today unnecessarily because it's due to a cardiac arrhythmias that is not detected in time and if detected in time treatments are there and the stroke can be prevented but also if I may it's not only about finding dangerous cardiac arrhythmias it's also about supporting people who have something innocent and keeping them out of the health care system so that the scare health care resources can be used by those that need it most. So I would say it has clearly a double purpose. And the mobile phone we're talking about doesn't have to be the latest generation? No, not at all. I would say each and any common smartphone since 2015 will do the job. So it doesn't need to be new at all. Okay, so this really does play a key role in the future. Even in Europe there's plenty of areas where doctors are no longer available. Yeah, exactly. So it could be as well as in countries which don't have the same development as we do. It could be available anywhere. Exactly and today very concretely like we are available in Europe, Australia, US, Asian countries like Singapore, India and we're now starting to tap in the African market where we look at a first project in Senegal. Well once again, thank you very much. Can you congratulate us on your prize and good luck with the future. Thank you.