 Welcome to episode 36 of the red man group. We are presented by 21 studios. We are live in Orlando, Florida just after the 21 convention Joining me today our distinguished panel. We're gonna go from my left to right. We've got Sam Bada followed by Goldman unleashed of course the distinguished George Bruno myself Donovan sharp Anthony Johnson founder of 21 studios Richard Cooper, of course and Drew Bay today's This particular episode we're gonna talk about something called the purple pill We got a lot of you got a lot of guys running around who Proclaim that they're red pill aware, but they're really just purple pill. In other words, they don't really Buy into red pill theories red pill thoughts They don't really live the red pill life They kind of go halfway and that's we call the purple pill and I'd like to throw this to Anthony first Why do you think? Why do you think people? Proclaimed that they're red pill, but they don't really go all the way with it more importantly. Why did it? Why do they want to profit from it? Yeah, so I think a lot of what you're seeing lately at least and that you know to narrow down a little bit is It's profit profit margins profit-seeking They're seeing a brand take off not just in the red pill community that we identify with and we you know Part of but also further out the outside of that community So there were the brands taking off and they're just like RSD I saw yesterday put out a video for it the day before right the red pill manifests There were some stupid shit and they don't have a clue what it is They're just see they're seizing an opportunity to make more money and then I give a shit about the ideas I think if shit about the content and I think they have shit about the community at this point The man is here at large or the pickup community or the red pill community. So that's a really good example and That's my thought on it. Yeah, okay, very good now Sam Bada has done a couple of the audiobook versions for Ola Tamasi's rational mail Sam what are your thoughts on the difference between red pill between red pill truth and the quote-unquote purple pill? Red pill truth is the truth and the truth is it's the only way to save men's lives men kill themselves five times for every one woman that kills herself and the reason for that is That there are plenty of people like Evan Mark Katz who made a friend of mine who is quite famous Almost commit suicide after he paid him five thousand dollars to give him dating advice And then thankfully he came around to me and at that time I had already narrated the first rational mail book by Rolo Tamasi and Everything changed for him. His life got so much better. So the red pill is a truth that Tells men to improve themselves in every possible way not just for women but for their whole lives because We're missing leaders as men in this country because we've been demonized for our masculinity all these years and Purple pill is a philosophy that sounds good because we've all been reared or at least I was to be a nice guy and That's great. I'm still nice But now because of these men that have written these books I have become a man for the first time in my life So the difference is the red pill teaches you how to be a strong man That is a leader in your in your world in your society and can change the whole world But the purple pill is a philosophy that tells you to be basically a wimp and being a wimp will attract women And it'll make your life so much better at work But the truth is that's what's leading men to suicide And that's what makes me cry when I'm narrating these audiobooks Because now that I've got some of them under my belt and I'm using my real name for the first time in my career I have men contacting me constantly Telling me those stories that y'all heard yourself about men That were on the verge of killing themselves and because of the red pill not the purple pill, right? Right. Yeah, we've talked a lot about the stories that we're hearing from our attendees here at the 21 convention I kind of skipped over it at the beginning Drew Bay I've actually had the pleasure of being to you for the very first time Talk talk to us talk to our audience about your experience here at the 21 convention. Wow It's different. I haven't I wouldn't say it's been read Pilled so much as I have been read Slow release patched. I started speaking at the 21 convention. I think it was 2009 before it was Red pill focus when it was more pro stuff and From that started following Anthony and started following rollo and Richard and Everybody else and the more I started looking into it the more I started realizing holy crap This is It was it was an awakening it wasn't one of these moments where it's like bam and I had it It was like a little bit over time Don't want to bore you guys with my personal stuff. No, please do like we like to hear these origin stories Well, it has made a significant difference with my relationship with my wife with Business even more than anything else and that you talked earlier about pursuing excellence rather than women women will follow You're a father too, right Drew. Yeah father actually man It is essential That people not only learn this but pass this on to their kids I'm you know, I'm going home and I'm talking to my son. He's gonna watch all these videos I've been talking with him about rollo's books. I don't want to see him go through what a lot of other men are going through right now And I think it's What what could I have been earlier? If I had known this stuff when I was in high school I want to give him those advantages That was great. There's another guy that was here for the convention that brought his son and I told him you have no idea You know, how much of an advantage you have what your dad is doing for your brain here, but yeah, it's um This is absolute. This is not something that oh, yeah, maybe I should this is something that's mandatory If you want to have the best life that you can if you care about your son You will Red pill you will show him what it means to be a man if you care about your daughters You will set an example for what kind of man they should aspire to and just at home I'm thinking about this too with my wife and I'm telling you so either way that you act You're setting an example for our son with what he should tolerate Or look for in a wife later on So and it it has the difference is just Phenomenal phenomenal. So it's gone from yeah, I'm happy with things to this is the fucking life. I want Yeah, it's been awesome to see you make that uh to follow the connection to for so many years now and be a part of it like this It's been amazing. Yeah Good stuff. Uh now goldman unleash. I think this is your first, uh, you did a red man group with us a couple weeks back But this is your first red man group live talk about your experience here at the 21 convention In terms of again, we'll compare red pill to the purple pill you see purple pill guys You see conversions happening What do you think are some of the goals in terms of red pill versus purple pills are guys buying into it? Are they kind of going halfway? Are they all in? Um, what I see what I really appreciate about the 21 convention the guys are all in here like this is That's the agenda the agenda is truth Everybody here is so incredibly diverse from different backgrounds different personalities Who are all single-mindedly searching for the truth and that like to see that to be a part of this group because it's so rare Even there's there's no it's not even money based. This is on a search for truth and it's amazing So I've seen that so I've seen those guys jump all in and it's just like it's refreshing because I'm surrounded I live in new york city where it's just fake bullshit Coming at your left and right. Yeah, absolutely. Now, uh, the man to my left here is uh, george I think we call him the sultan george the sultan Bruno. Listen, look at him. He looks like a sultan I think that's what we call him the sultan george. You're on the front lines You do the exit interviews for all of the speakers. Tell me about your experience man Like what are you seeing? What are you seeing from the attendees? What are you know, what if some of your exit interviews in terms of the speakers? What do you learn? What are you learning? What's it been like for you so far? There are common themes amongst all the speakers And one thing that I kept hearing from speaker after speaker is do the work One way or the other Someone would say those three words in the interview do the work right? And that should spark interest In the watchers. What is this work that you talk about because everyone thinks they're doing their best And for the watchers that are out there and people listening You need to know that there's options and I think that's what the red pill does. It gives people options There are guys who think that the only option after a breakup and everyone goes through them is suicide or alcohol or drugs or just Doritos and sort of escapes You know and to know that you don't have to go there. Can you imagine your response to chaos disorder grief? Would be going to the gym instead. We're not trained like that. We're trained to self-destruct It's the guy that says and I've heard people say this. I couldn't live without her I wouldn't know what to do if she left and then guess what when she does leave He doesn't know what to do without her So when you keep using those words for years and years and years you're training yourself to fail so doing the work Means that you are training yourself to succeed and I've seen that from one Thought leader and content creator to the next and I've interviewed you all And you're all saying it in one way or another. You're giving men options Good stuff don't have been a camp line up. I have been a real quick. Good. This is your first time at the convention yourself How'd that go? I gotta tell you man. Um, I remember when I walked in and I went over and I touched ed for the first time I touched that ladder more We're both like group is like, I believe it's you. We both act like little girls. So that was pretty cool The one the one thing that changed everything for me happened five minutes later Richard is up on the stage and he says, oh, yeah, by the way Donovan sharp just walked in And I put my hand up. I didn't expect anything everybody turns around and starts applauding And I remember my vision just kind of went blurry because I'm thinking all right. I gotta be cool I gotta act like I've done this before But to me that was to me that was the culmination of a lot of hard work and it's it to me It's really cool for people to come up to me and say, hey, you know what I watch you every day You know, I see you on the red man group and the things that you've been through You know your story resonated with my story Because of you I've made these changes because of you, you know, I've sought out these changes I'm working out more. I'm better with women, etc. So I think the most rewarding thing for me is guys coming up to me and telling me that I have helped them out And Richard, I wanted to get your take on this because I don't know if you want to get personal with your story But Richard was baptized by fire just like I was as a lot of you guys probably already know A lot of men get baptized by fire over and over again, but they don't want to go all the way They don't want to go completely red pill. They want to go purple pill They want to figure out another way to digest it easier. Why do you think guys just don't go all in? I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, um, yeah, you're right So I was baptized by fire a long story short, but basically it was like three back-to-back events for me It was a divorce dealing with uh legislative changes in parliament that really affected my business to the point where Like basically 12 years of really hard work like blood sweat and tears was about to get flushed down the toilet um, because my competitors were just unscrupulous, you know, let's say And um, the last but not least was you know another breakup. We all go through breakups in our lives And I mean I was like 42 Was it 40? Yeah, I was around 42. I mean I'm gonna be 45 next month and it was just like Why am I completely dysfunctional unable to work? um, I can't Like I just couldn't focus couldn't work. Um, I would go to the gym not want to pick anything up not want to put it down none of those things and um, It was just enough was enough and it's you know, it's the old story of You know when the student is ready the teacher will appear and I was at a men's retreat that december And my buddy tom was talking to me about some stuff and what's going on with your life And I told him, you know, what was all up and he goes, uh, you know, you should read the rational mail By rollo to mossy and I downloaded the book and it's funny because as sam was talking Then I was like, whoa, there you go He's like shivers went down my spine because hearing you speak through the mic and your voice coming through the speakers It was like listening to you narrate the rational mail. So, um It was like it wasn't any kind of rage or anger or anything along that lines. It was just like, uh Now I get it and I mean, you know guys that watch my channel um, I haven't been red-pilled that long. I mean I I've probably always been like, uh, kind of like a Blue-pilled alpha sort of thing. Okay. Yeah, um, but like when you actually are ready for that information to clarify the confusion that Doesn't allow you to to to proceed forward in your life Um, for me, it was fast and I started making videos on my channel talking about a lot of those key elements and concepts and explaining them And people would ask me questions and I would try to you know, um dissect it and give them the most valuable tools available Um, so sometimes when people see me, they're like, oh, you shit's amazing. You know, you must be doing this It's like no man. It's only been a couple years It's only been recently that I've actually been able to comprehend these concepts And I still like revert back to old conditioning that does not serve me. I have to catch myself constantly Right, right. Yeah, I think um, my story is it's it's similar to yours in that when I first started consuming Red-billed content. I didn't think back to myself. Hmm. I don't know It looks like there might be something to this but I'm not a hundred percent sure not I was all in right from the start and I want to turn My next question here to goldman because goldman is your unique individual I mean, you can the guy looks like indiana jones, right? I want to reach in and I want to grab his heart Right for anybody. Yeah, right, but but goldman is um, he's an interesting guy And he you know, he takes photographers we all know as strategies and techniques But most men find the red pill through heartbreak or sexual frustration I would actually like to know what red-pilled you or was it just a series of unfortunate events that just caused you to say Hey, there's got to be a better way Uh, I wanted to get laid. Okay. There we go. No. Yeah, so I got into game um, I think through that I found uh, roissy and then uh, femorolo And then like I said when uh, or like you said as soon as I read it It was just it hit me like this is the truth because I had my background Like I had I studied uh religious studies philosophy in college So I've always been that's like red pill for the world. Sure. This was red pill for sexual dynamics So as soon as I read it, it was the first time I had ever seen it. I was like here it is finally laid out This is the truth So you already knew how to play mind games, but now it was turbo Yes, and then yeah, and it was uh, it was like changing and just like very very satisfied like that burden of False information on your shoulders. It was just gone. So there was never a halfway point. There was never, uh, maybe it was No, no as soon as I read it, especially rollo stuff. I was like, this is the real deal Sam I second that notion nice Sam did you before rollo asked you to Narrate his books. Were you red pill aware as it were or were you not familiar with his work? I mean I had learned from some of the pua pua guys in the past and spent a lot of money trying to learn that stuff But I still didn't get it. I didn't get it rollo. I I keep telling people that it's like Narrating rollo stuff. It's like performing works that were channeled through that man. I swear from god. Yeah Same with ivan thrones work. I mean between rollo tamasi and ivan throne Basically in los angeles. I uh, I was invited into a bunch of think tank groups years ago And all of those guys are ridiculously successful. They started with nothing Some of them are billionaires now, but you know, they're humble just like you are But the fact is is that I try to tell my my friends that I grew up with went to college with, you know, uh How to master things in their life But all these years I wasn't able to to give them step by step how to do it I just knew how to do it But these guys Had the secrets in their books on how to master everything in life that matters that helps you to change the whole world That's going to attract women to you That's going to make you the leader the kids need to see right now Because the world like ivan throne says is dark And we need more people to read these books because it's changed my life completely. Is it just me or When ivan throne talks, right? It's like he's looking into your soul He's powerful like the guys. I mean, I like I'm scared to look at the guy He's going to see like all of my deepest darkest secrets. Um Again, you guys are watching the red man group episode 36. We're live from Orlando, Florida The 21 convention ended last night. So we're doing our post-ground effectivities We got a couple of questions here in the chat from the first one comes from tyler graves He says quote is purple pill just an unwillingness to accept hard red pill truths That just seems like someone is stuck in the denial phase of being red-pilled Is the purple pill any deeper than that? Joe, I'd like to start with you Oh, I don't feel completely qualified to answer But my impression of this is that a lot of these guys in purple pill are like pussies who grow beards because they They want to have the appearance Of being red pill without actually having to do the other work Going through and having the content of character. Right. It's like a image versus identity they're thinking about What people think of them as opposed to developing what they actually are Again thinking that the beard is going to make them look manly without actually having to be Manly it seems like they're stuck They can't quite get past that particular point because they aren't willing to do the hard stuff again, my non expert Impression of it. Hey, you're on the panel man. You're on the panel for a reason background mostly is in fitness and high-density training Oh It's a good answer. Yeah, I'll hit on that if that's okay It's you know It's like that old adage where you like take your shot you miss the target And then you just kind of like paint the target around it and call it the target sort of thing That's that's really what the purple pill is. It's like it's you know, it's kind of like a version of it It's probably better than the blue pill But I mean like it like the origin of the red pill blue pill thing comes from the matrix, obviously And and you're either immersed into the matrix or you're going to walk around sleep walking through your life as a blue pill Uh zombies, you know sort of thing. So it's it's very much like a light switch. It's either on or off I got a little bit different take on this This company with this convention was kind of stuck in a unintentional purple pill for a long time like purgatory And uh, that was kind of he was saying like I think you just said actually purple pill is better than the blue pill No, that's right. I think richard said that but I I nodded so that counts I agree with that to the to an extent with the caveat of it's better, but probably a little more dangerous It's like closer to the truth. But yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah, so it's kind of double-edged sword But this company and me, uh, I think you would have called us purple pill a couple years ago for sure I don't roll the first saw you as it got us purple shit And then we had a few guys come in like tanner and for the private man kind of making the transition May rest in peace But I didn't actually know about the red pill at all and I knew that the blue I didn't identify the blue pill as the blue pill then but I did identify the mainstream It's kind of blue pill at the time in different words And I recognized the pickup community and seduction community was a significant step in the right direction What was the flash point? When did you decide? Okay? We're gonna we're gonna change directions there That was actually an email from an attendee We had so we had the under 21 convention a junior convention of this in 2016 Orlando right here on downstreet another hotel And right after that I gave a talk on my experience with the bpd chick the unofficial wife ex-wife now And one of the attendees a lot of attendees come up to me one of them Though was like, hey, you got to read this guy roll to mossy the name rung a bell lightly But I was like, yeah, I think I've heard of it. I'm not really sure it's again It's a new email about this red pill stuff. You're gonna like a lot and the red pill as well I'd heard of it. I'd visited a couple times because I sent him a shit ton of traffic to our videos But I never knew what it was. I was like, oh, it's some group of men that like our videos. Cool It didn't occur to me. There's a whole movement was like a very similar pickup community I was like, I like her stuff. Great. Okay, you know, I'm busy building business and shit So finally when I got that email from that guy was very detailed very well put together very well thought out He basically I think identified what I needed to hear and the links to rollo's book To rollo's work on his blog and the red pill subreddit and what I needed to read And I read through it because I knew this guy in person. This guy's got badass And uh, basically was that email and then rollo's work specifically and then the red pill overall and I was like, look at this Shit. Fuck. Yeah. These are this is the tribe. I want to get in. Fuck. Yeah Suffice to say you made the right decision. Oh, fuck. Yeah. This is the not I mean since it's never It's we can't even this has been unbelievable. That's been unbelievable George I'd like to actually get your take on this. Um you're a man who has You're an expert in your craft and I think I think red pill truth has a lot of a lot of similarities to What you do Um, I don't know that people would identify you as red pill per se yet You are one of the you're one of the main cogs that keeps this machine going What are your thoughts on the purple pill not going all the way and trying to find another easier way to To sort of digest the truth and live a true life of dominance I would say it's like going to war without having your full armor on for instance, you can wear a A kevlar vest, but those who are on front lines and those who are kicking down doors have a plate That's inserted in there to protect the vital organs and I I think purple pill men have a They're just they appear to be They appear to be strong men The beard thing like drew was talking about Add a flannel shirt to that some tattoos go to the gym a couple days a week And you think these guys are just you know impervious I still I look at them and I see vulnerability That's what I see purple pill it still makes you vulnerable. Now that doesn't mean you have to be a A ruthless stone cold prick. That's not what we're talking about We still have to allow we still have to love our kids. We still have to love our family Love has to flow out of us. We have to be able to receive love But there are people who have to be stone cold For a period of time to protect their hearts protect their minds because they are so vulnerable And I like to say you know and that and that usually manifests itself in the mig town movement And I don't like to hammer on them too much A little bit but not too much Because I say mig tau is a nice place to visit sometimes a necessary place to visit But I don't want to live there right right and just because you I look at it like You know riding a bike How many times did you fall when you were learning how to ride a bike as a kid? Did you fall once and say that's it. I'm done with bikes. You didn't do that As you were when you were a toddler beginning to walk You fell on your bottom many many times and No one says, you know, this kid just isn't cut out for walking Let's just let him crawl for the rest of his life And a good parent says no He's gonna keep trying Until He's up and walking on his own And I think that's what the red pill does it helps men get up and walk on the round Not hide behind a beer not hide behind an image because You know, I cut hair for a living and I work with a lot of guys and There's a lot of crying done in the grooming studio. Wow, it's pretty deep and a lot of nerves get touched And these aren't wimpy men I hear their stories I had a guy who came home from work Went to his house opened up the front door His entire home was empty A note was taped on the wall said this marriage is over. His dogs were gone. His furniture was gone But he kept his haircut appointment Came in Had that what the fuck just happened look on his face From two hours earlier I saw him with that stare that just like what the fuck just happened stare on his face I mean and I've been cutting his hair now for about three years and watching him recover and go through Hardcore beta and blue pill stages and I'm working with them every few weeks little by little But I work with guys who are my platform is such where I catch guys When their mother just dies when they find find out their dad just died from cancer When they find the note taped to the wall that says this marriage is over So I catch guys on that continuum of happiness. I know when their kids graduate from high school I know when when they get a bad diagnosis. So I've been hearing it all for decades and for me giving men options I always like to say this I ask questions more than give answers and in some of my training which I worked for 22 years In another field before I cut hair One of my slogans was gather data give hope gather data give hope in that order and Some people would say to me You're the most interesting man in the world and I would say That's not true. I'm the most interested Man in the world and I'm interested in you And they would Like people don't know how to react to that men don't know how to react to that Because I don't do how do women react to that Well, that's part of my game being the most interested man There you go. There you go. I know part of my I I possess a unique set of skills And if I find you I will date you Good luck from taken um I think I have the right I have license To ask people the deep questions. How are you doing not just how's your kid's doing? What's going on with it? I have a platform where I where I can ask the deepest questions And I will take a towel out of the cabinet hand it to a guy when those tears are coming down And it happens every day every day about that George mentions mentioned something very interesting. I think the red pill community a lot of times were called a cult Or you know, all of these all of these negative stereotypes Oh, we're a hate group and we're rape apologists And of course anyone who knows what we're really about knows that this is far from the truth But something that George points out is The way religion works. I think any religious organization any religious denomination Gets most of its members During catastrophic events when someone loses all of their money. They all of a sudden find jesus When when someone goes through a horrific event they turn to god or whatever whatever religion there is a girl hits the wall Yeah, when I when a woman well when a woman hits the wall she finds a religion called the bottle Right, so I think we I think we all know and understand that a lot of guys find the red pill again because of heartbreak or sexual frustration Do you think that do you think that once they delve into it and and I'll ask this to you anthony because you again You're you're the founder of 21 studios Do you think that guys come to us with the with the intention of sticking around or just getting what they need to get out of it Just in order to go get laid because in my opinion Don't get me wrong getting laid is great But the pu ways of the world or the you know the pickup artistries And I think you said this in one of our exit interviews You said that they know how to get the girl But they don't really know how to keep the girl any any man can sleep with any woman on any given day I mean, you know the star is aligned to get lucky But if you can keep sleeping with the same beautiful woman, that's where the real skill comes in So what are your thoughts on what are your thoughts on guys coming in and just getting the whole I want to sleep without girls all day Let me answer the second part of your question I think those are first and then the first one might have to be reminded of I'm running on like two hours of sleep So I added I had some commentary I wanted to throw out that you just set me up perfectly for So I think a lot of what you see in the purple pill particularly with the dating coaches trying to ape the brand now red pill manifesto and you know eight months ago It was uh that rsd Todd guy doing like this is the red pill. It was a complete nonsense and nothing to do with it So I think a lot of what you see with those kind of pickup coaches today them aping the brand You see what I think it's called like pickup bravado So they will have these flashy skills or they show these guys who are like total betas and have zero game Again, these guys are super impressed by make guys and shit like that and these guys will I'm not saying these guys don't get laid What I'm saying is that that pickup bravado reveals that they don't understand women They understand pickup They don't understand women and there's a fundamental difference in that and I'll even go further to say that those pickup coaches these purple pill dating coaches today Uh rsd or otherwise they fundamentally do not understand women And I think that's why the acting these flashy ways and I'm doing these these outlandish videos the red pill manifesto Red pill where the fuck it's all nonsense Graphics and all that yeah the graphics and yeah, I think you even know and cook on involved with one once with Todd one It's like he knew role of his work. He knew about the red pill He had every chance to correct that video and you know Todd like you're not doing this right He didn't give a shit So I just wanted to kind of throw that out there that a lot of these guys aping the brand It's it's this bravado and it's it's fake. I think george is talking about It's the appearance of alphanus and it's it's alphanus in that in uh, you know So the work and I program in a certain way, but it's very narrow and very limited and they don't understand women You know, what's um interesting. I was just kind of sitting here thinking about it You know all these guys that have been led to the red pill usually get there through some form of blunt trauma, right? Yeah and um I don't know if these proper pill coaches have had that right of passage yet You know if you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Oh, yeah, so They're probably looking at it more from the perspective of like profiteering It's a business. Let's showcase Our glamorous sort of way of life. Let's see. I want Richard's channel because we have a home title. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, yeah But um, but I mean like all the guys that that that have been here this weekend speakers um, you know, especially they're You know, they just want to give something back. I mean None of us work for free like we obviously charge for our time whenever we're creating something Whether it's, you know, like a ticket to attend the conference or anything like that But um, I think that the basis like like the base operating system If you all like our belief system is to actually help dudes like like we actually want to help people Yeah, um, I want to add to that because when I got into game, which led me to the red pill Like I was getting laid a lot, which was awesome But it was like I don't think I could have been Abled I didn't have the tools to have a relationship with the people When I read red pill stuff and rollo's stuff that gave me the tools to understand women And I got into a beautiful healthy relationship for two years It's what I needed But it was because I I knew how she was thinking I knew how to act because it was the red pill if I didn't read the red pill I probably wouldn't have been able to have that relationship, which really did help me grow You've written about that on your blog too, right? Yeah relationship Yeah, I remember you talked about that a couple years ago too, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, it was very very it was important because what I needed what we both needed We both grew as people we split up, but we needed at the time Yeah, I mean, you know no no harm no foul. I guess in that regard My take on the purple hills. I think I think Richard hit on it I think it was either one of you two you guys are the same person sometimes. It's kind of weird I think it's I think it's definitely for profiteering and Richard you hit it right on the head I think a lot of these purple pill coaches Those guys you can tell when when you're watching someone you can tell when a man has been through some shit, right? You can tell when a man has fought some battles You can tell when a man has been screwed over by a woman You can tell when he has those battle scars and a lot of these purple pill guys They sell you sunshine and puppies and rainbows and they're like, oh, you know Just think positive and everything is going to be fine be a little bit masculine But don't be so masculine to the point to where you want to piss her off because you don't be bitter like those angry red pills You don't you you hear this all the time don't go to bed angry you're upset I think and I think that I think that's dangerous And you got a lot of purple pill guys out there and I don't want to say any names I don't want to give them any more publicity I think it's dangerous for both men and women because they end up right back at square one and Listen when you when when you see the truth and then you revert back to it My thinking is that you end up worse than you worse than you already were before you started So I think it's dangerous in that regard and I think a lot of guys out there think that they're They think that they're a red pill, but they really they're really not like they haven't really fought those battles I've got another comment here from Miami Jays is as long now This is actually sort of a political question as it applies to red pill versus purple pill He says quote as long as we have politicians taking the feminist or fem hard line and marketing to fems and sjw's It will be very hard to eradicate. How do we end feminism on a political level in government? Wow Man who wants to take a stab at that one? Take away women's right to vote Jesus it is take away women's rights to vote, you know, it's a whole you know responsibility, you know authority thing When you vote you are asking people to represent you. What are they doing? They're passing laws Those laws have to be enforced by men with guns putting their necks on the line if Well, if we were to staff the police and military on a merit basis Faces, which is the only way we should it would be purely men Men are taking the responsibility for enforcing the laws that are voted for by these politicians These politicians should only be voted for by people who are putting their necks on the line to enforce those laws No responsibility You're not putting your neck on the line or you don't get to have a say Yeah, you'll me head jump in this real quick. I have a little bit different take on it I think so I'm following what drew saying but I think the bigger issue is that women don't have skin in the game So then at no point in their lives at 18 at 30 and an older So any point current in their lives or then looking back on it? They were never at a point where they could get drafted into the military So when I vote like in 2016 I had a little brother. I still do he's 21 now When I vote I think about the candidate in a major election general election Which one is pro peace and pro war or which now both of them could go to war of course, right? But which one is more likely which one is less likely which one is going to put me or my little brother in danger I have a sister. I have two sisters as well. You guys met one of them At no point in it, you know, I love them both the death But at no point in their lives when they were young or older if they have daughters some day Those people those citizens have the right to vote to exert force through vote and like drew was talking about through law enforcement It doesn't there's a major disconnect. That's what I talked about my speech this year 1920 was the death of equality in this country between rights and responsibilities So I'm not opposed to women voting. I'm opposed to women voting and they're not having some sort of connection To military draft. I don't think women belong in the military in combat at least in the military. Otherwise, perhaps but So there's a lot of I don't have a solution But I do think that drew is hitting on there's a really serious problem And we need to have an open debate about that and free speech and discuss it because it's fucking serious There's also that um tried intensive method of um, you don't get voting rights unless you have property rights Okay, um, you know, which has been successful in the past But you know, like to to that question more specifically I I I really don't see any circumstance Unless like the shit hits the fan the zombie apocalypse comes or the aliens invade in which we're going to see a change in Uh governance in the western world in our lifetime. I mean You know, the government is completely infiltrated with uh, you know, female primary social decision making and ideas It it it continues to grow. It doesn't get smaller doesn't contract um, like Like this like everything out there is essentially designed to indoctrinate Society to be more feminized and weak so that they can control it um, it's not You know society is not what you think it is, you know, if you want to apply the red pill to politics That's that that pretty much sums it up. I mean, it's it's it's very very difficult for me to sit here as a guy And look at any political party and say it's got the best interest of its citizens in mind It's got the best interest of itself in mind and people that will vote for its policies And the people that vote for the retarded policies that most governments put out there Are people that want bigger government free healthcare free welfare It's like give them more free shit and they'll keep voting for our policies But there's no real true benefit to society at large. If you know what i'm saying, yeah Yeah, I remember um, well, I don't I wasn't around for this but I I remember a slogan old enough to fight Old enough to vote. Um, I don't know maybe the voting age was a little higher But they were still drafting 18 year olds into the military and and i'm not a historian by any stretch of the imagination But that that little slogan had to have come from somewhere and I took it to mean that Hey, if a kid is old enough to go overseas and fight for our country, then they should have those voting rights So I think anthony says something, uh, you know very poignant there Women have to have skin in the game if they had skin in the game I think they would probably make better decisions and we'll liken that to sexual prom the sexual promiscuity Even when women are having irresponsible sex, they don't really have skin in the game because of the birth control Well, I'm gonna clarify this too if women vote for a candidate and there's a war imminent in the country and the country goes to war They're not going to die Their daughters are not going to die their nieces are not going to die Your brother is going to die my brother is going to die my nephews are going to die My father was younger or when he was younger. He would go to die. Maybe I wouldn't be born So that's the fucking issue. So when I say skin in the game, it's like who's going to die If you vote and your candidates take your candidate president, you know commander in the military takes us to war They don't even women say I met her woman recently 30 years old Group in florida just like me didn't have a fucking clue what the selective service was Intelligent otherwise seemed sharp the articulate did not even understand what it was She had a brother. She had a father. I'm like, yeah You guys they were americans grip. They were the whole life at any point They could have been drafted into the military and gotten their fucking head blown off Or come back missing a leg or watch their best friend burn alive Women are not even remotely aware. They are so oblivious to this. They're not even educated on at this point And they're so quick to make snap decisions based on what they see on instagram and twitter and on tv It's just all it's all based on like the kindness and the global is like, you know that What does that jack donovan say the empire of nothing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right Um, let me I don't I don't know if you're into the whole political thing here george, but What what would be a solution of course drew says hey listen take away a woman's Right to vote unless they want to serve in the military in some capacity. Okay, let them earn it skin in the game Exactly skin in the game What's that you My thoughts are um And the reason I ask you is because you're very thoughtful. I've spent some time with you. You're a very thoughtful individual When I was going through divorce my attorney Uh, it was very involved in local politics in Philadelphia And one night after a big political meeting With the party and it was a conservative republican party. He was quite active. They were driving home And I and I am a conservative And I'm not even sure I want to identify as a republican as much anymore because I feel like my party left me I'm you know what I have I have the values of your grandfather. That's when people say to me What do you believe and I said I have the values of your grandfather? Because most people's grandfathers Were a little more conservative. I don't care who you are. I don't care how far lefty or wild you are Your grandfather probably had More common sense than you do. So that's usually my answer when people say, you know, where are you politically? but They came to a red light My lawyer and his wife they're coming home from a political meeting and he looked at his wife And this meeting went on to like midnight and he looked at her And he said, do we really want to spend more time with these people? And she said No, and at that moment they left being involved in politics And then they were the original the first family in this country To accept these lost boys of the Sudan where their parents were murdered with machetes And there was a pack of young African men Like hundreds just traveling through Africa just eating roots and dirt and bugs and they got rescued And then they got adopted all over the world. So my lawyer and his wife adopted several of these The original lost boys of Africa and they decided to put their Charity and their compassion and their money where their mouth is and And the boy it's funny the boys are all like valet victorians of their and they these are kids that saw their parents Hack to fucking death with machetes. Okay Black African boys who are now like they're in Yale. I mean, they're just incredible incredible human beings But I will never ever forget When he said, do we really want to keep spending time with these people? That changed me that flipped a switch inside my head And at that time I was quite politically active and I was door knocking and leaving door hangers and talking, you know You know, I wasn't a bumper sticker guy And but I will tell you this at that moment And this was 15 years ago. I left the world of being politically active Right now I am politically active in one way how I flip a lever once I'm in the voting booth for me When it's time to vote I vote my conscience in that booth And that's what I do and I vote based upon my values period What is good for the country as a father of three children? What's going to be good for my children? I know I'm not going to be here. They're going to outlive me So I want to vote for the future of my country I might not agree with a certain candidate 100 but I don't agree with anyone 100 on anything So and it's not and I don't do this, you know, the lesser of two evils thing. I don't vote that way But honestly, I just think as far as political activity Most people don't even know the issues and we've watched some The comedic reporters Go on college campuses and ask funny questions and Or a crowd of college students. Yeah crowder. Yeah, it's just people are not aware of issues So as soon as you're aware of issues It affects how your finger flips levers It's interesting that you mentioned your grandfather's way of voting your grandfather's, you know, political view because my because my grandad I mean, I was born in England my You know, half my family's from there Um, you know, he always used to say that it's it's better to vote on the conservative side because they're least likely to fuck things up Um, and I think it's true. I mean, you know, whether it's conservative, like, you know, for me It's like viewing things kind of conservative, maybe libertarian sort of thing Um, but like smaller government lower taxes like more male-friendly sort of thing. So I mean to To more directly like answer that question How do you vote because I mean you have a voting system which is which is broken It sucks But I mean, you know, you still have to cast a vote because it exists vote for something that's got conservative values Don't vote for socialist values. Don't vote for more government. Don't vote for, you know Free shit that that people get handed to them if they don't do the work Like those are the things that create a weak society I wanted to add this to the original question. I think we'll probably move off at some point but He asked about like getting feminism out of politics and the political process It's really entrenched as we discussed on the panel and at the convention at this point and my talk that was a big focus of it I'll say this. I do believe it's possible. I do believe in my personal opinion The 2016 election was an example of that the feminist matriarchy, you know, uh, dystopian, you know, shithole They wanted to create that went out the window. They did not get their queen. It was not it was her turn Yes, it was supposed to be a coronation man and her turn went right out the fucking window where it belonged You know how arrogant of them to even even think that, you know, oh, it's seeing a woman's turn. No, it's it's based on merit So I'll say this though. I do think we're in the middle of a culture war I think we still have free speech with the first and second amendment are still fairly intact Right, and I do believe they could turn the ship around but it's going to be culture first and politics Do you guys think that we're close to a civil war? We've asked that question before man. Um, I don't know civil. Listen, it's funny civil war sounds it sounds extreme But I don't know if I can say there's a lot of extreme behavior out there Right, like it's a lot of very something's got to give man It won't be a civil war because they don't have an army. They don't have the guns They've got a bunch of spoiled brats that are throwing organized temper tantrums. It would be one-sided affairs Black label logic put it. I think we talked about this in our private chat. He said it would be one side of the fair I think one side would have, you know, soy ice cream or whatever the other side would have all the guns in the It would be over very quickly Listen sticking with politics Let's just liken this to the dating world if a guy dates an outgoing woman, right life for the party. She's outgoing She cheats on him. So what does he do? He overcorrects. Okay. He he goes for the quiet docile girl same thing if he Dates a quiet docile girl. She cheats on him for whatever reason. It just doesn't go right He goes for the outgoing girl. So we've got Donald trump in the white house and the Mainstream media is doing their best to demonize them. There's a there's a movie coming out called 11 9. I think it's just all propaganda It flopped. I'm pretty sure. I'm sure I'm sure it did A lot of people think that we are going to Overcorrect we're gonna put someone in the white house. Who is the complete opposite of donald trump? I made this prediction on election night. Nobody of course nobody knows But we're gonna have the largest voter turnout in united states history come 2020 You can take that to the bank. So are we gonna keep trump in the white house? Or is it going or are we going to overcorrect and put someone in there who is completely the opposite? I think the behavior of the radical left and I don't I won't say democrats because I think there's a lot of democrats that are Middle to center that are really unhappy with what's going on right now You know, if you talk to most people about politics you take a random hundred people and ask them Maybe three or four will have an opinion. Most of them have no clue They repeat what the news is told right right most of those people in the middle A lot of times probably don't even vote But I think right now with so much more attention being paid to the issues and especially with the kind of That reactive almost panicked behavior of the left I think they're pushing a lot of people that otherwise wouldn't care or were in the middle or on the fence over to the right and Provided that they're able to minimize the voter fraud I think we're going to see Maybe not a landslide, but I think that there's a lot more people that are going to be going right because The the people on the left that are making the biggest noise are probably actually a very small percentage I don't believe or I would like to not believe that most people even a lot of democrats are nearly as Radicalized or as hateful as what we're seeing from it's probably a very small but very vocal minority and They're They're hurting their own party. Yeah, but the but I mean there's like a lot of reach with that, right? I mean like you were talking about it in your talk with that with a Reporter that what the hell did she say she wanted to castrate boys or like eliminate something like 90% of the male population The founder of gender studies in the United States is a woman. Sarah something and she gave a talk in 1973 Advocating for men to be reduced to 10% of the population. What the fuck is that? I mean, you know, could you imagine it's called genocide? Yeah, exactly. It's it's freaking genocide. Like could you imagine a man publicly declaring that? What do you call somebody with a degree in gender studies an idiot barista Oh So I want to I want to add this I want to add this center too in terms of defeating feminism In the political environment or otherwise I think and I try to articulate this in my talk. I don't know how well I hit on the specific point I believe that the manosphere will kind of be so we talked about just now the left and say the feminists They're very vocal. They're a minority a small minority, but they're very vocal and they're very intolerant They're very they make their voice fucking hurt exponentially bigger than their numbers have right? I think we need to do the same thing with the manosphere and in my talk this year That's why I was trying to advocate and kick knight or kickstart and ignite We need we're not going to ever going to be we're not going to read red pill legitimately 80 of the population It's not going to fucking happen But if we get 5% 10% 15% even 20% that would be huge That would be a very that would be like this room 15% of the population of men that would be fucking wild And those men with those voices will be heard and those actions will be heard and they're They're political force even money donating money to a candidate getting out voting Writing books sharing their ideas with their what their newsletter is in their websites. They're in their social media accounts stuff like that That is how I think we have to win. We have to switch from defense, which the mra is doing It sucks and doesn't work at moc disfails And switch the offense like like trump has done in politics get aggressive get assertive be intolerant Say no say go fuck yourself stuff like that hit back 10 times harder. Exactly. Exactly. That's what feminists do And it worked. We need to take a cue from them. You know appreciate. Thanks for showing us the way and fire back Yeah, and use it to fuck them up. We're not a one-dimensional community I've been saying this for the longest time. Yeah, look at all of us. I mean red pill is not this monolithic group of men Like the would it like little rascals used to have a tree house and the sign Said the he-man woman haters club. That's not like that. That's not what this is all about as a matter of fact There was a gal sitting at the bar On the night that everybody was coming in here Into the hotel and I did not know what else was coming into town this week so as All the attendees and speakers were arriving We're all like hugging each other. We're happy to see each other. She says to me. Are you guys here for the pride fest? My bad And I said no, no, it's a a conference on reclaiming manhood masculinity and Rebuilding men and building men and she goes well, that's Interesting. She didn't know what to think about that And of course, this was a good time of the night as people were rolling their suitcases in because everybody that was walking in looked like a freaking navy seal So, you know, I mean there's there is a kind of a red pill. Look there is a difference once once you're in it There is a look. Yeah, we had a lot of active duty military and retired. Yeah I mean, you know a lot of under our nice under armor shirts and muscles coming in the door, right? So she says Literally should I feel uncomfortable? I said honey, you're probably safer here than you are anywhere in Orlando tonight And there are more gentlemen per square foot here than any place in Orlando You know what did anthony say? He says, you know, I love women, but I hate feminism I love women and I hate feminism Yeah, yes, I got that from intending actually And I hate feminism. I get it. I think you should if you love women, you should hate feminism I mean like feminism is anti femininity. It's it's oh my god. It doesn't promote, you know, the feminine care It definitely hurts women. I mean like anybody who believes that it doesn't just bonkers Roller does a good job saying articulating that they want a feminist small like this genderless Androgynous future where like no one there is no gender We're trying to erase femininity and masculinity the masculinity They you know tox making calling it toxic and shit. So it's stereotyping it or demonizing it is more obvious But they do with women too and it's more it's more covert And a lot of them get sucked into that and they get fucked up too And then everybody loses jury you wanted to say something a little yeah Well real quick on that they're they are destroying Rational femininity as much as they are masculinity But uh add earlier anthony said that uh purple pill is probably a little better than blue but dangerous And with some of the other discussion is thinking what's really dangerous Is the purple pill that presents itself as red? Yeah, because men need red pill Some desperately But if their first introduction to it is from somebody that's purple pill passing themselves off as red The consequences could be tragic and we've seen that with the stories. I think right now one of the biggest concerns As and this is necessary to to promote red pill is to combat Any purple pill that's trying to co-opt it because they are doing men a huge Disservice from misdirecting them away from the legitimate red pill. It's a difference between gold and fools gold Purple people think that they're peacemakers. They're they are they embody can't we just all get along They want to be in the middle. They want to be a bridge between And the reality is you do have to take sides. That's right. You have to I think the world You hear this You hear people say not everything is black and white Well, some of the most important things are black and white. You can't live life in a gray area. It just it just doesn't work that way One would say that the government because we appear to have a red pill president That the government is now purple pill I don't know so to speak. I guess I guess if you mix the red with the blue, it's purple pill Going back to the question is there See i'm a cynical guy and the way I see it I think tides are changing right my girlfriend has told me about this Jonathan from modern life dating has also told me this He says the tides like things times are a change in and a guy like me The way I feel I think you know what feminism won't be vanquished until I am dead and buried It's gonna be it'll be three generations from now until we start to see This sort of dissipate. What do you guys think are the tides changing? I mean, I mean, is there a timetable? Is there not a timetable? I mean, where do we stand right now with any butter? I don't see any improvement like I've seen no improvement. I think it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better. Okay Yeah, I'm gonna be from speaking from being from new york. Yeah, it's gotten crazy Like you guys mentioned is there gonna be a civil war soon. There's a psychological war going on. I'm telling you I mean, I've been literally banned and it always starts with ideas too, right? Like it always starts with ideas before there's actions Yeah talking about these actions from where from certain places certain social circles certain parties in new york Just because I'm not even that political. I don't care. I just want the truth Like if you don't talk bad about trump, you're the bad guy It's like it's absolutely insane. And so it's getting really really bad. I want to add this I think uh, so I see what rich is saying, but I also see what goldman's saying It might take is that The intensity that you're seeing right now like what goldman's talking about that to me is the change That is an animal this like crazy ass radical feminists like marxist crazy communist shit That animal being backed into a corner and they're freaking out So goldman does he want to be political? But the fact that he even want that now that he wants to write a book on camera game, you know 10 years ago That was just a book now. It's a political statement. He wants the truth. Oh, that's a political statement You know old school shit where you could just stay neutral now. It's not possible anymore. So my opinion the Who knows exactly what's gonna happen? No one has complete certainty over this But I think things are changing for the better and the intensity and attention the tension you see in america right now And around the west that's a good thing Hopefully we we can walk out of that peacefully no major violence, but that already has not been the case I know there's a shooting with uh, I think earlier this year steve's glee's got shot Rampalms got shot with a number of senators. Oh the softball game Yeah, yeah, yeah There's a lot of little things like that going on in the country the senator and other congressmen and stuff being threatened and intimidated protested hardcore That's it sucks seeing that and it's like holy shit people are waking up I think and then you see that voter turnout. Yeah But yeah, that's the that tension that tension that intensity I think is a good thing that's a sign that things are about to fucking change We're in the process of changing and there's a battle going on psychologically culturally Sam yeah, I was gonna say I can I can see one of the problem is that christians are doing nothing I was reared at a very strict southern baptist church was a virgin till I got married and all that and um All these years in hollywood, you know, sorry about living out of my car showering at the gym But once I made it christians that I grew up with and christians from all over the country kept sending me messages telling me You're going to hell And the truth is i'm the only christian that has actually Kind of made it in hollywood right and what I do is I send the messages back or I'll call people back and say look You are responsible because you're not here. Look at the movie credits The credits that you have at the end of a tv show every job that you can think of That is listed in the credits. I'm like, why don't you get your butt out here? Like I did and struggled for a long time to make it Do the work because if you want to do it you have to do the work and I think um The majority of americans would say they believe in god And the problem is is that people in the us that believe in god are doing nothing and the men are afraid to vote These days, right they're afraid somebody's gonna find out. I never talk about politics because Oh, Jesus, they work in hollywood. I feel this shit on instagram. So I got a woman hit me up by this already. Like you're so hot and all this bullshit instantly. Anthony is totally unemployable But I you know, i'm risking everything using my real name for the first time in my life narrating these books for the fact is We have to every christian man Has to become a man And you're not a man even though you think you are and you know because your wife doesn't want you anymore But you are not a man unless you have read the books by rolo tamasi I've been thrown and these gentlemen i'm sitting with it's a fact. Let me ask the next question I'll throw it back to you sam. What role do you feel? What role do you feel that christianity or religion plays in the red bill is christianity purple pill? Is it blue pill? I mean, is it some shade of mauve or magenta? What do you where do you know? Blue and lower Absolutely, okay christian men are are weak and they're afraid and uh, you know, I tell people I've fought the gates of hell for 20 years in hollywood They will they will hire all christians if all of them will work the way that we work Yeah, you understand busting your butt going years without hardly any sleep It's just most christians are lazy and they do a job That they don't have any passion about and that is As a christian you need to know this if you're doing a job that you haven't dreamt of doing your whole life You are against god It's the truth So it's time to do what your passion is That's why you have to learn from these men that are the best articulators of what masculinity is Jesus wasn't a wimp and I also tell you Jesus was a g don't get it twisted. Yeah, the fact is I mean I don't know about you, but the first place we see Jesus in the bible He was at a massive party with all these world leaders rich people, you know People talk bad about the rich, but I want to be extremely wealthy again Why because I can help more people You know, yeah I didn't have as much as I should have had in savings when the hit-and-run driver killed me because I give money away to make Things happen hire people all over the world to improve things right here in the u.s I'm not really a particularly religious guy. I was raised in the church I mean, I mean, I've told you guys before I'm in sort of a transitional period But I've heard that the bible is one of the most red pill aware books out there yet The church seems to be blue slash purple pill How does that change like how do we change? I mean or should we change the church should we let it go down in flames? Should we just enjoy the decline or should we should we get the church involved? I think more guys need to be bringing books to church bands. They fall out of your pocket on the way out Like I was saying the rational male accidents happen. They fall right where the bible would be the prayer thing whatever Church makes money Yeah, yeah, most of the churches they all want to be big they make money the pastor becomes a celebrity And that's where we are and they pander to the women to do that, right? Yes Women are the consumers gentlemen. You are listening to episode 36 of the red man group. We are live from Orlando, Florida Here in the the the waning moments here the 21 convention We of course are brought to you by 21 studios. We've got another I don't know 10 or 15 minutes before we can have guys start to line up And take questions I've actually got a really good question here in the chat by reyes reborn He says quote How will the state of the geopolitical landscape affect the sexual marketplace two years from now? So this kind of marries politics in with the sexual marketplace And my guess is that it probably has a lot to do with the hashtag me too movement Yes means yes. No means, you know, no me. Nobody knows Um, I'll open it up to the panel. What are your thoughts? I think uh, we're gonna see a lot of people that are a little bit more selective about who they date based on their political leanings Men in particular being very cautious to avoid any kind of relationship with far left radical women Because of the threat of false accusations of sexual misconduct You gotta be careful now I think you're gonna see see things like that get dicier and dicier Dating today is like total anarchy. There's no rules left I think me too is not me too is I think the most modern, you know in the moment iteration of feminism the worst element So that brought bubbling into a fucking witch hunt right right here in america I don't even say that figuratively like it's it might as well be a witch hunt. All right. It's an accurate term to call it But I think that's gonna get even worse. I think me too now is we've seen a roll of posts and links and you know Major news sites doing it me too is now going to transition into they've been focusing on taking down men in power CEO as politicians and shit, you know judge cavern on judges cavern on That's I think going to transition into the home and family and marriage So you're going to see me too witch hunt transition now to go after husbands and fathers With enthusiastic consent and then seeing you'll see I think very soon you're going to see duty sex Uh, basically called rape, you know, it wasn't well, I wanted I didn't want to bang him But I did so it was rape. It's just fucking insanity is what it is. So it's going to get worse more intense I actually saw a tweet From someone I can't remember it basically said if I had to advise my son before he goes out of the date You know, I have like a small camera and a recording device To protect yourself at all time and goldman. I think you can probably speak to this You're probably you're probably the closest version of a quote pickup artist as there is How does hashtag me too affect, you know, affect pickup game? I mean, I mean, are you scared? Are you worried? I mean, what happens? Have you ever been falsely accused of anything like that? No, because I'm super careful about it. It has affected it Big time over the past year, especially there's a tension out there like in the nightlife So when I'm out in new york, I make it Um, I just make it a point to actually bring it up in conversation Like oh look at everybody's acting weird like the guys are kind of afraid to go You're acting more and more timid so I do it in a kind of meta way just to First of all, call out the elephant in the room. The girls like to talk about it Unless they're batshit crazy then I don't want to talk to them anyway But the cool girls they want to talk about it. They see the tension They realize the guys are holding back because of this gender war that's happening And it's just it's a conversation. I like to have to keep myself safe. Okay, and b it's interesting Yeah, I think um, I think there's to me. There's a lot to be said about that I was almost falsely accused of Of domestic. Oh, okay. It looks like we got a rich had to take a leak. He was subbing in for aj cortez. I realize right here left He's right hand. All right. We're going to the bullpen. We've got we've got aj cortez personal trainer extraordinaire But again, goldman. I don't know if you were I apologize if you want to finish your thought I was I mean if you if you are aware of it and you have the conversation Okay, like that's my advice like that's it's kind of necessary in this day and age Okay, uh aj, uh, let's go ahead and hit you. Let's go and hit you with a with a hard question here Man, how will the geopolitical landscape affect the sexual marketplace in two years? He's like, here we go. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show, brother I always take a minute perspective as much as I can abroad as as broad a perspective as possible Some of what goldman was saying is sexual sexual marketplace has changed where I've seen it myself There's there's been a different rise in tension It's between the opposite sex men and women are acting with each other people being single You basically you have to preface your interactions now You have to lead it with the opening that y'all there's a lot of tension. What do you think about this? So I told a lot of gentlemen that this weekend you have to protect yourself otherwise You're going to put yourself at risk. That's just the reality situation that we live in Hey, jay, what do you think about the phenomena? I think you've read about a probably of hillary hillary voters banging trump supporters That was kind of a thing we had in 2017. It seems to be fizzling out. I could be wrong People always project but the thing that you hate most also tends to be a thing that you desire the most to have And to be won over by So that's the very much the almost the classical scenario of like the good christian girl That's secretly a freak or the quiet girl that's um, you know a slut Uh, you're even the guy where he gets raised like a good household with these very Eternal values, but he has he sexual proclivities that he never really expresses And the thing that you hate the most also has power over you You have to there's always an acknowledgement there and sex has a power element to it. Oh, yeah So I don't think that's gone away at all Um, do you think we'll still see trump voters getting, you know, hillary voters banging trump voters in 2020 2021 when he wins again They're I have no doubt. Of course they will. Yeah, let's be there. I'll be a reinforcement of alphanus in a way Trigger on that which is most dominant has power sexually. Yeah, that never changes Yeah, going back to the civil war question. I have a question here And I don't know if anybody else had anything to add to that Last I have one thing. Yeah, go ahead. Um, I think the best investment in the next two years are cameras smaller than this That's what it's causing totally agree, man Total and I'm not listen, man. I think it's a damn shame That we're actually sitting here having a serious discussion about putting body cameras on civilians to protect ourselves from from false sexual misconduct And you notice they don't call it rape anymore, right? You notice they don't really call it sexual assault anymore They're calling it sexual misconduct Because the the very definition of sexual misconduct that has a very wide very subjective definition We had a woman accuse What's his name? Uh, justice brett cavanaugh of shaking his dick in front of her and the the world lost its mind She damn near cost this man his entire career because of an accusation back in what 1982 1983 And everybody took the bait hook line and sinker So it's events like these these witch hunts. This is what This is what it is, man And this is why a lot of people become purple pill This was why they become low-level makeups. They just say, you know what that's it, man Like i'm done and I can't say I blame a man to to to to sit here and think that I have to put a Body camera and I used to record all of my sexual encounters when I was in Vegas You never know what was going to happen after and I'm not going to get into it But I was I was halfway accused of domestic violence The only reason why I didn't get arrested is because I had the wherewithal to record the ensuing conversation on my phone And she was detained for making a false domestic violence I guess she probably didn't spend one minute in jail But from then on I had to record everything but you would have spent 10 years Oh dude easy like that was that was yeah, I'm it was I was very very fortunate in that regard I've got a question here. This is actually an interesting question by rhythm and smoke. All right He says quote. I feel women are in a civil war with each other for the identity of women Does the panel agree? Wow, that's a good question Feminazis versus feminins. That's a very sharp observation These things I mean we're here this weekend this past week as men Women are having their own internal battles or their own internal community battles for their own soul I've encountered that very much. So it's coming from a different background where I have a lot of female relationships where you obviously you have this element Yes, a lot of a lot of You have this element of this rack whole far left feminist femme nazi Social justice warrior where she went to college. She got indoctrinated with marxist ideology. She dyed her hair blue She hates her dad now. She hates all men But she saw it's also a mental level of mental illness because when you create all these categories nothing has boundaries 90 90 thousand genders You your mental stability is dust Right, your mental stability is completely disintegrated Yeah, you have that and you at the same time you have women whether whether they're christian Or they're just race traditional household where they're women and they like being common They like being soft and they had a good relationship with men And they see these women and no one hates women more than other women Oh, yes, no one better believe it more than other women the knives And women can call other women's bullshit out They can just like then they're not afraid to do it So what I see happening in the longer term which I think is overall beneficial is that these women who are more to say sensible logical reasonable rational not Frankly insane slash leftist but almost almost but they're the ones where they're going to be the power so to speak because they're just They're a step ahead in the mental stability game When you have people where you can they can fall apart mentally because you say trump and they have a panic attack I as as much as as much as they can streak and and you know being fury I'm not really afraid for that person because you're having a breakdown by words Right, you're not going to do anything constructive. That's why the prospect of civil war. I could I could I see the world being a hot piece You know, we're not going to have outbreaks of true violence But people are getting along, you know the great deal of friction But uh, you know the opposing side where It's a bunch of new males with 45 body fat with the testosterone levels of 200 nanograms you have a 10 year old boy and then their allies are our women who are also 200 plus pounds in corculent with a Pre-diabetic The optics on that are terrible. That's that's the reality of it and they're the ones of the most vocal. What are you really going to do? What are you really going to do all on that note? Let me add this I'll say so people keep saying civil war and it's like what the hell would it look like today if that actually broke out in violence I don't think you'll ever you're never going to see an organized You know military opposed to the federal government in this country At least where the way currently things are But I do think the worst you could see would be like a feminist version of the rodney king riots Where what you see now this insanity these ones throwing, you know, the pink pussy hats the violence is screaming the end all that crazy Shit that erupting in a city or a county somewhere in the country of major city Feminists is fucking losing their shit really running off the rails and dragging in and tifa and the soy boys and all that Shit, I could see that happening in Los Angeles or san francisco Um, you know, it's pretty serious. California has those elements to it But but again, the thing definitely the irony of that is that galvanized is the opposition so strongly And that that's what I've seen where it seems like the internal boughs of pinnows and owls You have the sensible women feminist where they're just absolutely disgusted with their own gender Now they're fighting out and they're basically just cannibalizing each other. Yeah Yes, like uh eat or be eaten. It's like what are your thoughts on this? You've got you've got women who and again, it's a small it would appear to be A small faction of women who are interested in holding on to true traditional femininity But it would appear that the majority of women want to redefine femininity It's almost again. It's a civil war with women. Do you see that and I'd like to I'd like goldman's Input on this too because again, you guys are on the front lines out here. What are your thoughts on this? I mean, are you seeing different girls? What conversations are you having? I Find when you have your masculinity in tune when you're a well-rounded man I'm not a big law of attraction guy as far as the New agey kind of stuff, but when you're a good-looking guy with the beard when when you're when you're a masculine guy You're going to attract feminine. I don't attract like Non-feminine women. You like how I said that because I don't attract non-feminine women. I attract women who are There's like little codes that people see you go to, you know, when I was swiping on the dating sites, you'd see like a little American flag emojis. I'm just like, yeah, you see like hashtag 2a. I'm like, yeah, you know A lot of guys would be scared of that You know, I do a morning show on youtube and my coffee cup Is a little snake Don't tread on me and the women who are my followers are like There you go. Hell. Yeah. So I find as I manifest What being a man is There are women that are so fed up with soy boys so fed up with wishy washy guys that don't have an anchor that Really, it's kind of a free-for-all for me. I there's like zero issues It's like I I was talking earlier about options. I have more options now that the genders are polarized and the You know, if I go to political rallies or I mean My girls are just hotter than heck They're smart. They're in shape. They're articulate I want to be with them. I have great conversations with them and It's uh, you know as opposed to The short hair purple streak pussy hat thousand piercings kind of thing my girls are beautiful and I love them and I texted a picture of the hat to somebody And the response was hell. Yeah My sister put one of the one on one of those on yesterday with me of her picture an instant So yeah, woman woman like that a lot wouldn't liar a lot. I think I think I like it a lot And and you know the word triggering is always associated with negative things right I I want to trigger positive stuff. I want to trigger hell. Yes out of people. Yeah, so I'm not afraid to I'm not a I'm not a virtue signaling kind of guy. I just am what I am. I don't wear shit like on my sleeve on purpose I just am I I'm a well-rounded guy and becoming more well-rounded as the years go on and now I'm almost 60 I'm not a young guy anymore And It's just non-stop for me. I have my choice. I feel I feel more confident now with women than I ever have in my entire life Wow, there you go, man. There you go That's a good answer Goldman is there a civil war going on between women? Listen, I mean conservative girls are obviously hotter than liberals I think that's I think that's fair to say Uh, what say you? Um, yeah, I like to keep the politics completely out of it. But this says civil war. I think if there's a separation Between the weak minded and the strong minded and I want a strong minded woman who wants the truth And they always tend to make fun of these leftist these feminists crazy people Right and the ones who agree are like these weak willed weak minded people Kind of goes back to what we're talking about the purple pill and the red pill Yeah to take the red pill and the truth takes an incredibly strong mind You have to be a warrior Like it really takes mental strength to do it to accept it into your life The purple pill is like for the weak minded, which is easy. Okay, that's it's an easy way out So most people are going to go purple pill Most if they're writing about sex and dating they're going to go purple pill because it's easy If girls read their stuff, they're not going to be like written exactly So the red pill takes a lot of strength And with this thing going on with its mental civil war between people just separating the weak and the strong minded Okay, all right Uh, let's go ahead and start getting guys lined up in the queue if you want to ask questions Uh, go ahead and line up there behind the microphone. We'll take your we'll take your We'll go ahead and start taking your questions now We'll also take questions in the chat if you have if you have a place to question in the chat Just understand we may or may not get to it the guys that are actually here They're going to take precedence. So we've got we've got someone here now. Go ahead. Yo, hey guys Speaking about politics and stuff like whatever you guys do in the us is and eventually going to splash up in europe Landing in the uk germany and then slowly crawling towards the east and stuff Like I think there's like a five to ten Year window like we're lagging behind you guys a little bit. So I guess we're gonna get the whole brunt of feminism Coming towards europe What's your kind of like idea for a battle plan or like how could we like handle this situation? Because we got a time advantage. It's not much but I guess we can do something with sure I've seen what he's talking about by the way in germany, but if you want to go ahead So We got me thinking about this. So us culture always disemnates itself Worldwide because cultures are romantic and whatever is strong is always leads With the united states with the current trends of let's say wrackle The wrackle feminism is sort of this leftist hysteria I don't know if I would really see that spreading worldwide. The reason why is that it doesn't actually produce anything It doesn't produce anything. It's very ineffective. It's actually sort of I would argue that this isn't very basic level It's a money loss since you're creating a generation of people who are weak-minded and unproductive and highly reactionary so you might have a weirdly sort of global filtering effect where those elements because the world is watching america the international sentiment that I pick up for my friends that live overseas is the us has gone crazy With the shit and we don't want that in our country. So rather than it be like a leading where it's like, okay We want to be like america in the 1980s and being this military superpower We want american culture in 1990s and this commercial material buttons or even 2010s in the ot in the 2000s now, it's you guys have gone absolutely insane We don't want that in our country at all. You see that in china where I forget the I don't speak chinese So I forget terminology. I see that in china japan where there's literally there's word There's a word now that makes fun of leftist ideology where oh, it's what they basically it's like their version of social justice warrior We're oh god It's one of those fucking americans that only cares about race and identity and they're probably ugly too Um Dead on serious and I've seen that in other countries as well Even in the eastern europe where they see this and it's not feminism where oh, this is powering It's women there that come from these more traditional cultures where they're they're well put together and they're feminine They're graceful and You know, they haven't been corrupted that way and they see american feminism It's like what is this these women are these women are hideous and hysterical and they're shrieking and they got They sound like this and they have local fry What are we exactly going to take from that in corporate our own culture? It's completely unappealing So that might kind of die on the vine where we're at here. I think in 20 years I want to comment as well that uh, the battle plan as far as i'm concerned is bringing the 21 convention back to europe for our fourth Event that will not be in scandinavia this time where western europe will be in poland So the americans are coming the canadiens are coming. We're late per usual, but coming for the feminazis All right, we've got someone else. Uh, looks like his name tag says tolo ramassi Royo, Royo, Royo I'm asking this for a friend because my voice is completely shot now Um, just to cut just to sort of preface this. Um, where you guys are talking about um, a civil war In my speech, I talked about how It's a possibility that we could be coming into a civil war and not just in a gender sense I mean i've been posting a lot of examples of what a gender war looks like on my twitter feed recently and I see it more as a gender cold war right now where it's like these it's like sniping at You know the masculine it's it's uh, I think it was um, I was talking with george bruno earlier and just in um re characterizing um masculine characters to be more feminine like uh, you take someone like 007 like uh The uh, james bond and they're just you know, they want to change that masculine archetype into Uh, a female. I mean in some cases literally change the character into a female Um, that's one aspect. I think of a of a gender cold war Uh, and so as such it seems to me just like you were saying a minute ago that um Like one side of of femininity or one you know one faction of women are going to Be a little more leaning towards you know our red pill way of thinking or maybe a little bit more Conservative way of thinking and then of course there's going to be the more liberal women who are going to You know fight that side, but it's going to end up being I know it's gonna there's going to be a dividing line between women at some point before we actually get into like A real live civil war. So I mean we get into something like that, but I definitely see a gender civil war right now. However uh married or not married modern modern life dating uh john Texas and he says the left is running out of weapons at what point do They start losing women to our side and that's why I was just referring to what I mean when there's that division line Where do you think that division line is going to start? I think they already have yeah I'm not to keep novelizing this but I have a I have a fairly Whatever I don't know about it. I have a fairly large following at this point and I'm always surprised at about 25% my following is actually women um, and they they won't they never Present themselves explicitly like within the feed like on twitter, but I get emails constantly from women and they're either either it's uh Yeah, either in narration or just like thanking me like thank you for saying this like men need this I wish more men were like you My even my twitter account I never expected it to ever be like dating thing But I've gotten lots of women that they follow my feed. Are you are you single? Like where can I meet men like you? Do you know guys like this is where I live? Like how can I find someone that's more masculine? I think that tide has already turned honestly They give you name address and everything, huh? I'm sure that's More than text A few choice pictures. Yeah, I agree with you. I think um, I think this side is already starting to get the women Listen, man. Women are attracted to strength. They're extract They are attracted to conviction and it doesn't it doesn't really matter What sides you're on so long as you appear to be the strongest and most proficient The highest status the most steadfast in your conviction Whether you are a bible thumping, you know, southern fried baptist preacher in nashville, tennessee Or you are an atheist up in seattle washington if you are strong women are going to follow and that's the bottom line I want to add this too. I think women could use a little push right now to get this get that process started And uh, go make women great again. That's right. Absolutely Because this has to be I think women are embracing this and we're like, who's you took you took a picture of george Yeah, exactly and she was responsive positively, right? Yeah, I think women want to I think I think women want to I think that they're afraid to I think they're afraid to sort of I think women are afraid to come out of the closet as a feminine woman I don't think it's I don't think it's social media fashionable. Yeah, I'm a feminine woman I embrace femininity that's a good way to put it There's a social stigma to it one of the accounts that follow a serigene gosney She's like housewife from a feminine femininity, you know, everyone that always sort of comes at her and attacks her at various times It's always other women. Oh, it's always always want to be pretty for men Yeah, you just want to do this. Yeah, why do you even care about this? It's all social conditioning It's the same stupid arguments over and over it's it's not men. It's it's women. It's all women women It's ugly women hitting on pretty women. That's that's feminism wrapped up in a fucking bow for you There it is. That's how it started Let's go to our next let's go to our next question. Go ahead. Hey gentlemen When you discover the red pill you go through the anger we've we talked about that a lot this weekend We we talk a lot about the red flags in women and what to avoid what to watch out for I want to flip the switch a little bit and george you touched on it and kind of this the The signs you look for that a woman is actually feminine and is what you're looking for and go me talked about the Two-year relationship, you know that you had after the red pill. That was that was a wonderful relationship kind of curious to The panel what you guys In your own life look for like what are those signs because I think there's a lot of men that are like All right, I want a feminine woman. What does she look like? What do they look like? How do they appear or what are their signs and they could be missing all those signs? So it's one here what your your thoughts were on that I have a cool take on this because I've given us a lot of thought this year I mean been begin now that i'm in 30. I'm starting to give it more thought So some this is like something loosely like theory. I have so it's not it's not ironed out yet, but it's worth a shot Look at women who are beginning to ape fashion trends from like the 80s But not like in some douchey like a superficial way like their bangs are done in a way that you don't usually see Their hair is longer. It's to well taken care of. It's not over done They're less flashy the colors they wear for makeup are less intense These are signs for women like lacking red flags and these are like light green flags in the first place But particularly if you see them harking back to like fashion trends from back then And then look at the way they behave listen to how they talk Listen to watch the way they walk like small shit like that because we need to look for them That's my that's my best take on it right now And they're not more obvious stuff too, but the details I think is worthy Where the treasures at if there's anything try if there's anything I find look there green flags anybody else Yeah, my number one green flag is if I'm seeing a girl is does she bring positive energy? Does she bring joy to not only me to it to other people around her? If she's always negative all the time, especially when you first meet her I mean, that's that's a huge red flag, but the green flag goes up if like I just feel this positive Radiance from her that's that's to me is the ultimate femininity We have an old speaker here Steve Mayday used to say that the way you do one thing is the way you do everything And that when you're comment about positive energy reminds me of that because you're right If she comes off the bout negative stuff, that's everything. Oh, yeah 99% of it the way she waters from her waiter everything And but you see but if you see positive little details, that's a good sign. That's just does everything It's always the little things uh one there are many many green flags We always talk about red flags, right? We all know what they are gauge out of the airs tattoos body piercings, etc um one green flag That that I would put guys on notice about is her selflessness does she put And it's almost like an automatic switch. Does she put the needs of others before herself? Um, how can you see that on a date? Donovan, well, this is easy if you know when when you sit down, you know You order whatever the case may be and of course I don't recommend you take a woman out on a first date for dinner But that's a whole another issue But when you're out on a date with a woman that you happen to be seeing And you're looking for something right like they bring your food or bring your meal and you're looking for something And she can pick up on the fact that you're looking for your spoon She automatically reaches over and she gives it to you or if she sees you're about to cut up your steak You put down your utensils and you're kind of looking around. She passes you the salt Um, those are the women who are feminine women who want to follow women who want to follow men That's a marker The the selflessness women who are women who have all of those red flags are never going to do that If I can uh, I want to challenge you in this a little bit. Okay, so in philosophic sense slightly So you're saying selfless but in my opinion what you're talking about is self-interest women A self-interest for women putting themselves first means putting a man first if it's counterintuitive and it's kind of screwy to look Or a paradox But I think if a woman like if your girlfriend puts your puts you first that makes her happy right for her to be Happy as she has to put a man first which takes courage Yes, and submission is an action. It's a choice and I think that's how they do it and it's very counterintuitive It's not as obvious men we put ourselves first by what putting ourselves first right on a point of origin Women put themselves first by finding a man that's worthy of putting first and doing that as fast as possible and getting out of dating And not fucking themselves up getting all the trauma and shit I won't tell you this you you will quickly find out and I think that I think we all have enough experience here to Know and understand that women are very very good At acting as though they are traditional acting as though they are feminine But let me let me give you a one immutable truth They can't keep up the act forever and I think a lot of guys are out here looking for the cheat code Hey, how do I bet a woman in 24 hours boot not going to happen Um A woman who is truly feminine a woman who truly wants to follow a strong leader. She can't keep up that act forever guys It's going to take time. It's going to take patience and it's going to take work So you're going to have to look for these green flags when you see these green flags You have to make sure that they're there at all times Just like you said if you do a thing one way you do that forever So I think I think that's definitely something to uh to keep in mind I like to say date long marry slow divorce fast because most of our problems Happen when we don't date someone long enough When we marry someone too quickly And when we drag these divorces on forever And just choose suffering pain is inevitable But suffering is optional and a lot of guys just stay in that pain mode forever And they have to learn to come out of it They do that by buying a ticket to the 21 convention. That's right. They sure do. Absolutely. And here's how you do it Get the rational mail one audio book and cue audio version Yeah, you know cue it up to the part uh, there's the iron rules of tamasi. Oh, yeah, those are brilliant. Yeah push play And if she's agreeing She's good If she gets angry She's out and that would that would screen him quick here before we go anywhere I've got something for you to listen to just press play, right? If you come back to the room and she's still there, then you've got a chance if she's red, right? She looks like she's chomping at the bit to say something. All right. Yeah I think I'm gonna go ahead and get out of here I just use speeches for this too just find like a really triggering speech from roller or dawn avenge somebody and say Watch this video. Thanks. Thank you video. Yeah, don't let me do don't let her listen to me Let me know usually I'll fuck up your whole date regardless of what she is All right, we got one last question here, uh, right in front of us. So go ahead I want to come back to the earlier topic of this battle that's going on And we've assembled a stellar cast Of guys who are at the forefront of this battle I I'll be honest. I don't know the full history of the speaker lineup of all the previous years of 21 convention But do you guys think that we ought to find a woman as well? That embodies these ideas and can help move move the cause forward because I think You know a lot of women are going to look up and say, oh, it's all men. I don't want to listen to them What do you guys think and and and do any names come to mind? So you're saying the 21 convention specifically getting a woman speaker. No, I would just know there's well, let's clarify the question That's that's the question. It doesn't have to be specifically the 21 convention But I've already heard several knows. Is it unanimous? No, but what do you think Anthony since you're the Yeah, I mean everybody can put your opinion I I don't think this is the place for it But I would strongly encourage women that have these values to put together an event for women to combat feminism and to save Or sorry to combat Yeah combat feminism and to save Rational femininity from what that's becoming they they can put together their own event like this I on twitter. We're all on twitter. There are red pill groupies Yes, there are and I find that some of the ladies that like my posts Give me thumbs up retweet are more like-minded and what a great I mean how I think it's I think the web is a great way to at least start the vetting process Because it's better to be with someone Who has shared values And I'm not looking for a woman to agree with everything I say But I want her to agree with the important things the things that are the dealbreakers and you have to differentiate between your groupies Um and the ones who are just following you to criticize you and we have those as well, but they end up blocking us before You know too much eat Absolutely and the ice they take themselves out of the game They come in and they agree and thumbs up and then after I keep saying they can't hang in with us for very long there's a handful that just like Watch all of our tweets And and they're dropping off little by little so But the ones that hang in there. I think um Admire us I think they do I'll I'll say this um women can't lead Women can't lead other women. They can't lead other women. They can't lead other men. Let's say that there was a 32 convention right the the female version of the 21 convention That's not gonna gain and listen bless their and they mean the red pill women bless their precious little hearts for giving it The old college try it is an abject disaster. It is a circus It is a dumpster fire over there And the reason for this is because women don't lead other women It takes them it takes a strong man to build a feminine woman You cannot leave women to their own devices It just doesn't work that way because if the 32 convention were to ever jump off It would turn into red pill women where they're advising girls to have threesomes with their husbands Uh at his desire now all of a sudden you're advising women to flirt with your co-workers in front of your husband to get his attention so Unfortunate but here's the thing though women inherently know what it takes to or at least I would like to think they inherently know What it takes to keep a man? It's not like women out here are incapable of doing what's necessary to be feminine It's just that they're choosing not to they don't need a convention to learn how to be feminine They're women are born right men are made women are born women already know this stuff It's just really a matter of choice So yeah, I think I speak for anthony when I say is there ever going to be a Female presenter or a female speaker at the 21 convention. Fuck. No, thank god You have to when anytime you have men together you have men together. There's a dynamic of brotherhood when you bring a woman in Uh, I would think in a hypothetical scenario if you we if we could truly find someone that was If we could truly find a woman that was extremely feminine because within The mind of the psyche anytime a man encounters a feminine woman She shows him everything that he is not That's why femininity for some and it's very threatening or intimidating because if you see someone who is beautiful And she's graceful and she's well spoken and you know, you're never going to be enough Man for her to ever want you because you form no polarity with her In that model a woman can show you what you need to become As far as bringing in a woman like that here That would be a shit show and that'd be her coming up on stage And if she said some good stuff where it's like, oh, okay. Yeah My god the audience you're gonna want to sleep with her The other half are going to be weird and then the dynamic Because it is a woman now amongst men. We all can't talk to each other honestly because We're going to start talking There's going to be guys who start talking wanting her approval or what does she think that always happens You put you to put any woman in a group of men She will automatically become both the center of attention and the center point of destruction for everybody It undermines the entire brotherhood. That's why men need to do things Whether they're men And no women by themselves that that works and this is exactly why women consistently try to invade male spaces They come in with the intent. Oh, we just want to help you see the other the other side No, you don't you want to infiltrate you guys want to be the trojan horse You know every swing and dick within a one mile radius of where you sit Is going to change everything that I was waiting for the swinging dick It's only their fact too is that when the woman you come to serve attention now Was that you it puts all the attention on them? They get the social validation. Oh my god All these guys want me like me these women always look at me We all know this I'll put in my two cents on this At this point the 21 convention is a strictly male space We do a lot of few women and girlfriends wives sisters stuff like that But in terms of being on the now I do like a few female thinkers today and in the past I ran and we're currently you see a woman like dr. Helen smith They have some great ideas and they can do some great thinking that's fantastic I support them but in terms of speaking of this convention. I think you said it's a giant fucking hell no This is a male space. It's no locker room. No You're not welcome to lead it at this level I mean if you want to kick ass with your own thinking your own work I'll let's talk in some other way and go do it But this is a male space and it's not this platform The stage is not for women to preach the men it's for men to talk with other men and figure without figure out What the fuck is going on how to fix it fix it leave the west and bring it to a much better future All right, and with that, uh, that's gonna draw the that's gonna bring the conclusion of episode 36 Of the red man group live here in Orlando, Florida I'm gonna go across the panel And you're gonna tell our audience where they can find you What work you're doing websites blogs et cetera et cetera I'm gonna start with Sam Bada there right at the end. All right here at the convention I've gotten a lot of questions about What saved my life what has kept me alive after having a major stroke from a hit-and-run accident So I just switched live fearless calm to a place that tells all the secrets that uh, most doctors don't even understand And it's all very inexpensive. Just tell you where to get what I take is mostly supplements I've recently lost 70 pounds in the past six months And uh, so I'm just gonna tell all just give you access to everything on twitter You are a Sam Bada on twitter S. A. M. B. O. T. T. A. And live fearless dot com. Excellent golden Uh, you can find me at goldman unleash dot com. That's where my main body of work is Uh, there's paid for content the real high quality stuff my best writing and photographs There's also hundreds of free articles Uh instagram at goldman unleashed and twitter at goldman unleash. Where can we get one of these ads? That's a secret Almost adam george People can email me. I like I don't like just gawkers. I like interactors. So you can email me gb my initials Gb at george bruno dot com contact me personally. Let's start a relationship Let's collaborate on something Man, that makes me sound bad. I'm getting ready to well you guys can find. Well, listen I'm not as distinguished and debonair here is george bruno. You guys can find me on donovan sharp dot com Go to youtube search donovan sharp. Um, I'm on weekdays Weekday mornings at 10 a.m. 7 pacific. You guys can find me also on patreon.com Board slash donovan sharp I got a lot of stuff on the internet Pretty much any social media account you can type at beach mussels or at dream. Usually it's at beach mussels. Nice and triggering I'm also on youtube at youtube.com slash 21 that's slash 21 21 studios.com 21 university.com and the 21 convention.com. Okay, that's very good. Hey jay myself I have a twitter presence a j a underscore cortex with an s You can obviously always find me on twitter. I do have a website I'm not really updating my website. My email list is what I email almost every day Love the subjects that we discussed this week and I've talked about a lot my architect presentation was from the email list Alexander Juan Antonio Cortez full name. That's my website Again the email list that's the best place to reach me if you want to have conversation Need help if you want me to talk about something that you think is valve's Simeon inquiry we can talk about it And there's that's it. Like I said, that's almost daily. So that's always you're always going to get content that way and By the estimations of everybody on the list. It's pretty good. So And you can find me at bay.com. It's just b a y e dot com And on pretty much any social media with just looking in or looking for drew bay Mostly information on fitness building muscle losing fat getting fit In as efficient and safe manner as possible Okay, that's going to do it for episode 36 of the red man group real quick I'd like to special thanks to anthony johnson for allowing me to participate in this This has been an experience man. This has been a world class event Everything is top notch from george to the production staff the lighting Everything has been it's been professional on an unbelievable level. This was this was an unbelievable event Thank you for having me and hopefully you'll have me next year. That's going to do it for episode 36 Thank you guys for attending and we'll see you next year What was your experience so far with the 21 convention? Oh, I was dead. I was dead professional all across the board really good energy with a lot of people and uh, I just like because it's very positive Positive direction this george. This is this has been a first-class event. It's fantastic. You guys run a really tight ship I've been to a lot of conventions over the course of my business career And I can tell when things are well run and when things aren't and this is a very well run operation I was very impressed. It's pretty incredible to see where anthony's brought it Especially from last year which is my first year here and to see the the upgrades he's made it's been incredible I've got my notebook and with every speaker. I've written down about two or three lines under each of the speakers of just The key prime stuff that I got that's good. That's great. It's very surreal man. I'm really enjoying it I'm happy to live in such an era Where is such a thing like this is possible? I have never seen a group of guys like this a group of 200 men were focused Squared away and working on their values just never met a bigger group of wonderful guys It's kind of neat because I've been to a fair amount of conventions in my day But you never see one where the guys like uh here you can just see ed ladamore talking to tanner about boxing Yeah, you just sit down and then you tell your boxing experiences. Everybody's kind of pinging off each other. It's nice It has been fantastic And it's been four days of guys all on the same page working in the same direction fascinating meaning some of the people Hearing their stories. Yep. You got people traveling from other parts of the world to come here just to see some of the speakers That's amazing. I think it's impressive. Everybody here is very serious. Yeah, they're taking it. You know close to their heart What a great convention. Thanks, george