 Feel extra little in here. I think we have to fix this from Chandler Parsons stealing my seed all week Run it back was in studio in a lay where I have returned and After this morning, I know more about Kyle Kuzma than I ever thought that I needed to but amazing to have shams and beetle And Parsons in studio of back next week, but you're here with me to wrap up our our Friday on up in Adams We don't do shows on Friday. So we're here on the Thursday with the lovely the Insightful the in the know with all things New York sports Kim Jones is here with Newsday and WFAN She'll talk about everything going on with Oh, we're gonna ask her about Adele to in Baltimore. Don't worry about that But with say Kwong Barkley Dexter Lawrence all of that her thoughts on Daniel Jones and company and Aaron Rogers entering the New York Sphere plus I'll look into the draft needs of yeah the Commanders We're starting our show with them get with it the Bucks the Patriots and Matthew Hamilton digs deep into the tape of Packers a quarterback situations with Jordan love and we are doing an irrational Here's we're doing an irrational fear of animals draft anyone so irrational with the most fearful animals in the world And I'm seeing jellyfish. Okay. It's interesting birds birds. It's high on my draft for people. I mean me versus Hamilton It's high on their raccoons not scared of those turkeys. I'm totally with you on turkeys dear What daddy long legs? I'm not scared of any spider. That's scared of anything flying spider not none of that I just have Windex and I walk around my house in California shooting with Windex and now Peter will be after me. Let's go Friday we don't have shows on Fridays during the offseason because summer starts early here at Fandle TV Two weeks from now though. It's Thursday two weeks from now. Goodell on stage Kansas City probably went to Joe's earlier today He got himself some size. What do you guys think he's a brisket guy Roger Goodell? Something clean. He's got those nice nice suits on the least the least He'll have to bring two suits. That would be my advice to you. Mr. Goodell, and then you'll hit that beautiful stage ESPN and if a network may be up in Adams on Fandle TV, you'll be all over the coverage now It's gonna happen 14 days. So let's take a look at a couple of teams that are super intriguing And you know given the fact that we're only doing four shows a week We haven't gotten to hit every team in the game. So let's get to it We're gonna start our show and this segment with the Washington commanders We're not going to talk about Bezos or anything like that But yeah, all the focus has been about who is going to buy this team and about a potential sale But there are an interesting spot when it comes to the on the field stuff too Ron Rivera is going into year four the commanders have yet to figure things out at the quarterback spot And that's what this is all gonna hinge on because when you look at last Season, I love when the full screen pops up right when I want to do it. So great This team went eight and eight and one in the toughest division in football without a subtle quarterback situation They have a lights out defense. Look at this They ranked third in the NFL behind only the Niners and the Eagles and they did it all Without their leader their young buck their chase young on the field Uh, hopeful he can make a healthy return this year That'll be huge because the rest of the key pieces on the defense will all be back Offensively this thing is ready made for success. El Capitan the captain. Oh fancy shot. What is this? I love it. Terry McClaren. Okay, John Dotson, Curtis Samuel They have a case for being the best trio receivers in the league right now I said it with complete chaos a quarterback though Terry McClaren still managed to be a top 10 ride receiver John Dotson missed five games. Guess what though? He had as many touchdowns as Tyree Kill and more than DK McCaff. Love you and Mike Evans. Love you too and Curtis Samuel a nightmare to deal with in the Debo-esque mode and role if you will now these commanders they really remind me I think I'm gonna get dragged for this but they kind of remind me what the bucks had going into the 2020 off season Okay, talented young defense completely underrated targets in the passing game The roster so strong top-to-bottom and way better than it gets credit for because the quarterback play has been a question mark And an issue and I know Tom Brady probably ain't walking through the door To save the day there neither is Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson. So they have to figure out this thing Uh, and it comes down to what are their options? Is it last year's fifth rounder? Sam Howell No cricket crickets a cricket's a feared animal. We'll get to that later in the show No, how about Jacobi Bresset? We mentioned brisket. Let's do it. All right. Uh, he's coming off a very strong year in Cleveland or I don't know. Do they get a little spicy air? Do they make waves and package the 16th overall pick to go up and snag their quarterback? It would be a shame. God's all I'm gonna say a shame to see another year with a talented squad Go to waste because of the quarterback situation. So Ron Martin Get everybody together and get this right immediately. There is a new wave. There's energy There's new ownership on the horizon Hopefully so, uh, I'm not sure they're going to get too many more opportunities in this window to get it right. All right, next We talked about the buccaneers. Let's get into Tampa. Tom probably doesn't walk through the door either And they're at a massive crossroads right now, right? They brought in Baker Mayfield Who yesterday like shocked myself on there thinking gosh, he's the quarterback of the Tampa Bay buccaneers What's going on? He apparently is going to compete with Kyle Trask for the starting gig there They still have a ton of veteran talent and mike evans and godwin levante vita vea devon white We love him. He rides horses. He's not scared of those animals. He has a ton, but they uh, the news was that he put in a Trade request. No, he's not devon white No, it's not look it up devon white has horses He like rides horses and he brings them into the stadium It's the guy's trying to say as if he all the horses are sort of soulless looking I'm I I've ridden horses all that california school and I'm just they just look like at any moment's notice They could be up to no good Not bite me, but like they're very big Trust me. I was just around a horse very recently. Uh fandals gonna kill me. Okay Um, so what it was I say, oh devon white put in a trade request guys this week So I you know, it looks like he might not be around much longer. So while for some teams, uh You know I don't know this might just be better off as a sell-off situation. Where are we going right? Let's let's go into rebuild mode. Don't you add a don't add a bijan I was talking about bijan going everyone's like don't do that. He's gonna be wasted down there in Tampa sell-off pieces you know go into Rebuild mode for the nfc south is anyone's for the taking right now if you look at this Bam the bucks have the longest odds guys plus 500 have some fun over at fandals sportsbook. Would ya we really don't know though Uh, what any of the teams are going to look like three of the four have new starting quarterbacks, right? This is very interesting returning starter for the falcons desmond ridder He started just four games. I think last year So the way tampa handles this draft will have a huge impact on how the division plays out Do not sell yourself short buccaneers fans or people that are judging what's gone on down there in this division Okay, do they make a move? Up from 19 to get a quarterback. Do they add an explosive piece like a bijan? Can they convince devon white to stay there and not want to move as we go on horse tangents here in the a-block If not, can they make the most out of a potential trade? We believe in jason light. We know super bowl champion jason light and he's got some big things to figure out And if he's able to push the right buttons, there really isn't a reason I think that the bucks can't find their right right back to the top of the sains favored nfc south But if things don't go the way, uh, tampa would like it to the next couple weeks They might be in that kala billiam sweepstakes at this time next year and clipped kingsbury is going to try to Attach himself to that wagon now isn't he okay, uh treat the show add up an atom show. We are looking at animals Uh that you might be afraid of the most feared animals. What would be the obvious ones like, uh Somebody put squirrels. Why are people scared of squirrels? They're crazy. They're kind of finding them cute They're kind of chip monkey. I'm not afraid of anything like that. Like I remember once in college There was a bat in my apartment four girls lived in like a very small quarters I think it was a three bedroom and three four girls lived there and there was a full-on bat when we got home from the bars one night And I remember just everyone was freaking out and I was like am I a psychopath that I'm sociopath that i'm not Afraid of this even a little bit and I was just Fine I threw a cucumber at it. I think and it flew I think I flung a cucumber at it when it was in a good spot on the wall and and uh, and it flew out the window Am I gonna get like killed for my animal behavior? Okay, uh Devon went on a horse you have him Yeah, does this look like he's afraid of this thing? No, uh, are you kidding? Devon why would be someone fun to go to the derby with? We should make that ask. Hey Devon why what are you doing in a couple weeks when I come to Kentucky? I think you might would might love to do that and then him this I understand Vaughn Miller I look at him with these chickens And I'm just gonna give it away right chickens. It might be my number one off the board There's nothing and of course I have emotional emotional trauma bonds with these animals Chickens are absolutely terrifying and have no consideration for other people at all Like you never know which way they're gonna go. So I'm absolutely terrified Miller. You're you're a snow. Okay, finally But seriously Devon white would be a good derby derby friend to hang out. Yeah, I agree Hey man, Levante, can you imagine? Okay, finally on a horse on a horse. Uh, I want to talk about the Patriots Mack Jones trade rumors We talked we addressed them here and a lot of new England fans are like you're a pro football talking making shit But these trade rumors continue to sort of swirl here all supposedly stemming from this bill Belichick Pissed off in this over Mack calling his Bama coaches for advice when he wasn't loving what was going on an offense last year Because it was led by a defensive guy Patricia. We get it. That's what's going on So the pats haven't confirmed any of these rumors But bill has continuously Declined and sort of poo poo did the idea of naming a starter for the season And you have to imagine that that's having an impact on the locker room Phil Perry who I call the senator that I know and trust him He works for mbc sports boss and he reported yesterday that he spoke to a number of guys who are upset on Mack's behalf About how this has all gone gone down that you know, they don't want 2022 to bleed into 2023 at all that sort of stuff and none of this is proportionate response to what Mack Actually did let's not forget time out. We had Devon McCordy come on our show without unprompted not really even baited I wasn't prodding him really stand up for why does everybody against Mack Jones? And I was blown away by it because it was as if he was talking about Tom Brady the way that he was In defense of him and so all of these rumors took me by surprise just based off what my guy McCordy said And there's all these anonymous reports the Patriots linebackers spoke on record about it Josh Uche was with Perry and Tom Curran yesterday. Here's what he said Uh, I love Mack. I mean he's a competitor somebody who I've gone to war with and practiced with I've seen his work ethic and his tenacity. I think he's a dog with your minds You know what Devon said that's me personally having worked With Mack and knowing what I know about him. Listen, he's a dog. That's all I can say man He is our quarterback So the guys in that locker room seem to overwhelmingly have his back and at this point even if Mack isn't traded You have to wonder how the nature of this is going to affect bill and max relationship and bill's relationship With the rest of the locker room because somebody like bill lot players have a lot of reverence for But it's easier to have reverence for a hard ass like bill when championships and division wins Are are happening and when they're not I think some of it gets lost in the sauce even though he's an absolute legend And if you trade it back When is that happening we were two weeks into the draft we have to think it happened before then Um, I asked this when I talked about a couple weeks ago. What is the plan in new england? Like what is bailey zappy the guy Sure, I mean he might be but why would he not make that call now? What are we doing? Um And I it's a hard press thing to think that bill and company wouldn't have Another plan in place like you do you want to really limit yourself give yourself another option When it comes to your quarterback situation and beyond the england side of things A trade of Mack to one of these quarterback needy teams It switches the entire draft it flips everything off its course You're making those producers in those trucks work extra hard changing those graphics to figure everything out If you wait too long because we've heard the raiders We've heard teams like the titans very interested about what they do with their quarterback the bucks They're all rumored to be in conversations with the patriots And those are all teams that are interested in trading up to three with the cardinals One of six teams rumored to do so in order to grab a quarterback as well. So there's some high drama. It sounds like potentially brewing in fox bro It's something to definitely keep your eye on and not even if you're a patriot spanner You care what's going on up there because it's going to affect your team And have this ripple effect on the rest of the draft any other animals coming up Coming up that are interesting jelly jelly fish I'm you know, I was thinking about oh, we have a tweet. Okay. Let's go to it. This is so fun today Let's go to we got oh number one pick. What are those mice? Okay, I'm not I'm not afraid of mice like not even slightly not mice or rats a llama Listen, I went to Peru. I was very in close quarters with llamas not terrified of those I should have pulled footage of these animals if you've ever been around peacock peacocks, you know to fear them They'll charge you well peacocks are in the bird family. So we have the animal draft coming up We also have one of my favorite people because when I want to know something about the giants I go to kim jones. We finally get kim jones on the program Draft is 14 days away Kim jones tweeted this i'm told sake on barkley will not be signing the franchise tag Dun dun dun and therefore will not be eligible to participate when the new york giants offseason program begins monday More to come on news day sports. Listen to me. No one No one knows new york sports teams. What's going on the ins and outs better than my first guest today No one we are lucky to have a few minutes with kim jones of news day wfv n and york kim jones. Hello I'm so excited to join you. Okay. I got to work on my It's implied kim i'm happy to have you you reported this sake on barkley news that he's not signing his franchise tag Which means he won't be in otas, which I think is kind of smart Why would he want to be in otas? He handles his body really well Do you have any sense on sake one and the giants where they stand in terms of getting this deal done? Well, I think they stood in a much different place during the bi-week in november when Joe shane did offer sake one barkley and julian love by the way a contract julian love now was with the seattle seahawks As a result of not being able to work out a contract sake one, of course At this point would play On the franchise tag the 10.1 million dollar franchise tag. I think there are some hurt feelings k I think that's allowed even in the rough and tumble nfl I think you can look at sake one and what he's meant to this team. He's been a captain every year Since his rookie season. He's really important to the growth of players around him and also with the tone He sets in terms of competitiveness. He was able to stay healthy last season I certainly understand frankly where both sides are coming from joe shane would probably say I only have so much money to deal with here and the rest of the running back market You know and sake one's saying yeah, but I've been your guy I've been the giants guy and john mara's guy For five years now. Ooh, that's a good point with that mara thing because that that definitely matters Do you should I be worried if i'm a giants fan that this will get contentious because when they tabbed him and did the Deal at jones, I was the first one clapping for this new leadership saying that's what needed to happen. Keep everyone together Should I feel comfortable that he'll ultimately play this year on that tag? Yeah, I can't imagine. I mean can you I mean I can't imagine I'm gonna sit this one out. You know, he loves his teammates. He was with his teammates What is it now a week ago when when they went to the west coast and worked out At a facility where sake ones worked out before on his own this time, you know, Daniel jones Darren waller and you know Paris Campbell those guys were all with them So he was there with his teammates last week. I think that's a sign obviously of what the team means to him We love to see that and the you know, I was really happy with the deal I know some giants fans said it's too much money this four year 160 million to 92. I believe of that guaranteed How has that move gone over since it was announced? Were you surprised to see such a substantial commitment to jones? Yeah, then get out of it in two years though. Okay, so it's a commitment, but with like a yeah, but kind of attached to it Got it Which which I think probably makes everyone involved except maybe daniel feel better Although knowing daniel jones, he'll just go about his business quietly k and you know Maybe continue to improve because we've seen great strides from him obviously Yeah, and then he has more cap space to work with right so shane who you mentioned You know, he's been able and we'll be able to be more aggressive here Uh off season for the giants. What do you make of it in terms of building this offense around him? Around daniel jones, I think they did a good job. Darren waller is going to be remarkable as long as he stays on the field The giants were last in the league k And i'm not going to outnumber you I know that because you have all this stuff at your fingertips But the giants were last in the league this past season in explosive plays. That's a hard way to live This league, you know, think of the pressure it puts on the defense Obviously the pressure it puts on every offensive player to never make a mistake because you know, that might have been your one chance So, uh, the the giants certainly need to get better offensively more explosive and more dynamic offensively I think you can certainly make the case they've done that Yeah, and then you look at and we have the draft, of course We'll get into that but you know, everyone's talking about this seiquan thing with the contract He won't be uh doing and joining the off season program But I also saw the dexter lorenz news, right? This is their their big guy their defensive tackle He's not going to be there on monday because of his Contract situation. He wants a long-term deal Will they lock him up and how important is that for this defense that you're talking about and taking pressure off of it this year? Yeah, I think wink martin dale will tell you it's vital. Um, you look at the contractor on pain just got Fairly recently. Certainly this off season from the commanders. I think it was 90 million Um, a four-year 90 million dollar deal, you know, if i'm dexter lorenz's representatives, you know, now I have a starting point, right? I mean dexter's been unbelievable. He plays an awful lot of snaps Uh, 75 and enough percent which for a big nose tackle like that is it's really impressive Uh, what do you make of wink martin dale? We have eric weddle on our show every week last year and somehow he was just able to get him in every answer That I would ask him a lot wink and he was like rooting for the giants because of wink What's it like to cover wink and his impact on this defense because I don't think Nationally it's talked about a ton It's awesome. I mean players love it because he wants them to play and be themselves and you know, uh Petal of the metal type of thing where he gets it if you're gonna make a mistake Obviously he doesn't want mistakes, but you know, he wants you going all out players really really adapted very well to him And I can see why he's a character Um, you know, I give him a lot of credit at this point in his career He made the move from baltimore, right? And um, he really found in brian dable a coach who very much lets him be himself And i'm not saying that didn't happen in baltimore because I think it did as well But I can only speak of his time with the giants. He's incredible to talk to the times i've gotten to speak with wink I always kind of mentally bookmark them As much as I can because There are few there are people that you meet covering the nflk and I know you know this um who Give you the kind of wisdom that's real And wink certainly falls into that category. Yeah, he deserves to get some love and I wish he got a little bit more head coaching love I'd like to see him in that role as well. He's really a respected leader of men But we'll see what he can do with this uh with this defense I don't think they're going defense at their first pick. What do they pick 25th in the first round? You know this better than I do But I don't know if they've had some wide receivers in the building. Is that the direction we're going? They have you would think that they would want an explosive wide receiver? What other kind would you want by the way? Um, you know Part of me hopes they picked joey porter because I need another penn stater in the room Of course Quarterback from penn state who he may not intercept the ball, but no one catches a whole lot on him Um, it'll be interesting to see where joey goes including whether his father's former team in the stealers is interested I mean, yeah Yeah, you never know, you know, saquan's in there saquan's in there going This is this is my guy. I did a whole thing on him yesterday. I hate that he keeps getting asked about his dad So if he gets there his dad let his dad have his thing, you know, he's he was He ran the 40 at the combine and nfl network has his dad in the double box I'm like, can we can we have a moment for him on his own? I was annoyed by it You know what? Okay, he told a story at the combine And I was part of the group listening to him about how he wanted to leave penn state the year before And his parents counseled him mom and dad and said you're not ready yet And he told us at the combine that hurt my feelings But I know my parents had my best interest at heart, right? So, you know, he has actually brought dad and in that case mom as well into the conversation and from what I understand You know, I'm a penn stater So I kind of you know pick and choose the you know the times I can talk about them But this is certainly one for joey porter jr. And and apparently the family is just remarkable, which You know doesn't surprise you and he'd be a great fit. I think he should we need another penn stater there for kim jane's to cover For new state and w fan. Let's move on to odell. I know he's not, you know under your jurisdiction As it is but you have a very close relationship with him a one of very few who do In covering the media he trusts you and he'll be introduced today as a baltimore raven What did you make of the decision and what do you make of the fit? Well, he got paid and you know, there's a bottom line business here It's you know, it's how we started this conversation about sake one It's how you know, a lot of players will end their conversations and their career, you know because of economics and football He absolutely got paid. He got what he wanted. I did find it interesting I believe it was lamar who put it out. But you know a phone call, you know with lamar I think that probably made I would guess that made john harbaugh sleep a little better at night I don't know that but you would think so and there's odell with his absolute pride and joy his little boy Which I love seeing yes him and zaden there You know, he's got to get make that 18 million and pay for those miles on that on that jetliner there amazing What so what do you think he wants at this point in his career just security? I guess I think I think he wants to win. I think he wants to win again. That super bowl Was incomplete for him, right? I mean he had a great start for your you know folks have said Hey, you know, he was on his way to be an MVP now. We don't all have that crystal ball obviously I will say Seeing him go down again with that knee Was was sickening. You know, I mean, you don't wish that on any player Um, especially one that you have at least some sort of a relationship with I was lucky to know him When he was just getting into this league And and those are the times I think of frankly when I think of odell But you know now he gets another chapter in vaultamore and he and lemar could be dynamic. Okay. I certainly don't have to tell you that Uh, you just got to stay on the field. I think too full. See he has eight years two full seasons played We'd like to see him stay out there and I'd like to see them continue to add support for lemar now It looks like I'm trying to I'm trying to think for the schedule They play I think they played the giants last year the ravens did I don't know if they play them this year I don't believe they do oh man That's such a but we got to get you to one of those games of course with odell Now I can't let you go without a couple of things here This erin roger's thing lingering annoying the jet situation Uh, but from from a a perspective that you have where you've covered so many moments so many characters Not just in football just new york sports in general What what do you make of his fit with the new york fan base and media? Is there any advice that you'd give him in how to managing that how to manage that? Just win baby. They'll love you Win and you they view they will absolute they will name a street in florham part new jersey after him He wins with the new york jets they they will absolutely give him everything they could possibly can as long as they win I was talking to win and and my guess is he would very much like you know to add to his Winning ways and who knows maybe even a super bowl I was talking to brian costello of the post and I was saying he's like I don't know how it's gonna go with them whatever and you know and I said listen He might make you guys all all journal and have sound bowls Therapy before you walk into the media room like there could be some real interesting changes there since they're giving him everything He seems to want right? Yeah, that would be something that that would be an interesting media room that would be an interesting ploy and it might work All vegan. I'm imagining lots of wind chimes and woosahs and chanting I can't imagine saging of the media every morning. Who knows you've covered so many huge stories They're in new york, so we thought have a little fun before we let you go To relive to some of those great moments a little word association Can we're going to show you an image of a moment and you tell me the first thing That you think because you are part of these at least as a fan are covering them really closely Let's go with our first new york moment here for kim jones of news day w f a and this one a rata gets traded to the Yankees what what's the first thing you think of? Oh my only we could have had a truth detector on derek jeter at that moment. I would have loved it We love it. Okay our next moment. Let's go nfl We talked about him getting all this money Daniel jones this one where he ran and ran and ran and then fell. This was a terrible moment, but a great hilarious one You know for daniel, I think that he handled it like he handles everything And I actually think k After that game and in those moments. We learned a little about his kind of metal, you know He wasn't going to be rattled. He knew it was funny, you know And i'm sure he never heard the end of it for a for a little while and not in the locker room But he's pretty cool and collected You know that that did kind of show you something because you looked at it and went You're gotta be kidding me and then he handles it like he handles everything which is pretty even keel I mean it's teams like this and new leadership and you know Believing in daniel jones and surrounding him that you it's coaching and gms run the show They're so important I look at it as a bears fan honestly and I say maybe the bears can be this year's giants New leadership surround their young quarterback with some talent and watch them waltz themselves into a playoff situation Which nobody expected in a rebuild year. All right, one more moment here We're gonna keep it nfl. Do you know smith crushing it in the nfl? I'd love your thoughts on that But here's this moment as the new york john this is when elie was benched. What were your thoughts when this is happening? Yeah, it's remarkable to see that really right there the passing of the torch, right? Um, it wasn't handled perfectly It wasn't handled well, but it seems like everyone involved has certainly been able to move on as they should have because bigger Moments abounded. I mean elie certainly had many more Big moments before that and and now he's you know everywhere You know and and gino to his credit has seemed to really find a home in seattle Which is which is great for him. I do think the giants will see him this year. Oh That'll be a fun game Yeah, but that either way I mean he's I I love a second story It's really hard to have rewrites in the nfl and somebody sees you a certain way So he's gotten a second one of those uh in some new life. They're out in the nfc west Okay, this is one of my producers and you needed an answer on from you I I I don't know this one as much but java chamberlain and the yankees and the bugs. What do we got? Oh Stop get him some Bugspray get get him off the mound Joe Torrio said he should have pulled him off the mound He should have pulled him off the mound It was weird and that happens. I guess in cleveland, you know in certain climates and everything else I think it was a little bit muggy that day or maybe a lot And java, you know for java um That's a moment that will live forever because it just it just does and you know, um, I don't know this happened Unbelievable. Did you have to read? Did you have to report on this? I mean, I was there Were you just like what the hell is this like you're on a five you're like, uh Let me look up gnats in the climate of cleveland. Like is that what you're doing you're googling like I think they're midges. I think I'm not sure. I think they're midges But they they were all over him yet. You had to get java off the off the mound and like I said Joe Torrio said that's one of his regrets I just need you to write a book because there's all of these crazy moments You were at yes network then you cover. I mean the arod thing alone is like it's eight chapters And then there was like the you know the back pages. I think of sam darnold And I don't think about anything other than the back page fodder. I think about the ghosts I think about the mono. What do you what did you make of the sam darnold experience covering it? Honestly sad Because I you know, I'm not sure that we ever saw that true promise You know, he was drafted before josh allen, you know, as you know, yeah You know and the two are really close friends So, you know could could sam in a different environment You know thrived at an earlier time in his career where he wouldn't now feel i'm guessing that he's always up against it Yeah, you know when she fail it's prove it prove it prove it and he's had so many prove it moments um That it's almost unfair. It's so true Get a nightmare start to that career Which is unfortunate And then I think too I think too like there's something to undersell over deliver And when you it wasn't even when he got drafted by the jets It's when he was younger when you're anointed and I know that sometimes it works out and you have lebron And lebron ends up being on sports illustrated and he goes on and fulfills that but it's so much pressure And I was hearing about sam darnold and he was like a freshman in high school a senior in high school He's anointed I'm gonna go number one and then to go and have those moments that have to be so regressive when all your life You're a five-year-old being told you're better than everyone. You're the next to this. You're the next that It's it's sadness is a really good way to put it But we wish him the best and there's always a chance for rewrites as we're seeing with guys like gina He's such a nice guy. I know it's so true. Okay last one for you We are having a because it's the off season. We don't have anything else to do We're having a draft of the most fearful animals like the scariest animals ever Do you have an animal to put number one on your draft board? squirrels Why They terrorize me. They are on my roof. Sometimes I hear them chewing. There's nothing you can do. I'm not going to climb the roof Yeah, um They dart around. I mean, we've got to take out like the yeah, you know, hard and variety rat I got it. I got you know, that's worse than a squirrel, but I will tell you this One day on my way to the giants and there's a there's an access road 25 miles per hour I was going the speed limit because they do ticket you I hit a squirrel and at that point I felt really bad I did because I was like it obviously was not intentional. It was kind of I was upset about it. Yeah, I hit a squirrel and I was like Ah, I don't like them, but I certainly didn't want that end. Are you sure kim? Kim, were you driving and you were going 21 and then you thought these squirrels on my roof terrorizing me No, okay. No, all right I may be a lunatic. I'll accept that But I'm not some diabolical murderer of squirrels that I know I'm glad I know it needed the clarification There's squirrels on the top of kim jones draft board not, you know, there's there's jaguars cats There's bears. There's crocodiles. No squirrels squirrels are what you're afraid of which I love Hey, can I go right back to the beginning just for a half second? So Micah Parsons tweeted this morning That when they prepared Monday morning for a Giants game, he said the entire message was don't let seguan beat us I find that kind of stuff interesting. I know it's all Penn State. I understand But Micah's not a liar and Micah remembers that as part of the game plan pretty simple But all folks are stunned. Don't let seguan beat us Micah helping seguan barkley get that bag of money from Mera and those Giants. They know how important and vital he is Daniel jones doesn't have success I don't believe without seguan looking and it's just the mental toughness of someone Deserves all the rewards for me like when it comes to seguan I remember one of my favorite conversations I've ever had with any athlete is with him during pandemic Anna instagram live and he's telling me you know that year that I missed that I was injured It was the best year of my career and I go, huh? And he says to me because it taught me not everything is given. I've always had athletic gifts I've always been great. I've never really had adversity in my career and this taught me to stop Look at the game with different way. Look at myself as a man a different way as a dad And all of this and that sort of like it is not easy to be injured your whole like it's I give Joe borough all that credit to missing your rookie season and coming back and playing at that level mentally is insane Yeah, and if I may Seguan had a lot of adversity as a young man Um, you know, he didn't grow up with a white picket fence. I've written that I've said that before So what he didn't have adversity wise as the great athlete The dominant athlete he is he's certainly had it in in his in his life And I do think um educated Guess here. I do believe that all of that set him up To be where he is now and to get through the injuries and and you know, even this franchise thing You know, he would probably tell you that's nothing compared to what I've been to Hey, his dad used to walk him to to football practice when he was a little boy because the family didn't have a car You know, so seguan knows that And now he certainly knows this He's also a young man who knows his value It's beautifully said and well said. I'm glad that you said that kim jones We appreciate you your knowledge. You're just amazing any time you have time to hang out with me. Please do but I know you're very busy Yeah No squirrels. Okay news day w fan. You are crushing it and I'm so happy to see you and hopefully we talk soon Thank you. Thank you. She's the best squirrels Didn't know that that was a fear fuel. Is that that's kind of rational. They're scrappy I get it. There's yeah, I'm scared of some small things people are scared of spiders Like people we need to get we need to get a grip on things. All right A lot of clarity on odell a little bit on erin roger's lot on say kwan barkley will be back after this on that Oh, hey Hey, watch a lot of people are focused on what it means for the jets If it makes them contenders blum-blum-blum-blum-blum-blum-blum-blum let's take look at the packer side of things Shelby jordan love Kind of a mystery, little limited stuff with him with what he's done with the Packers. So I wanted to bring in Matthew Hamilton for another edition of Hammer Time. What's up, Cat? Nope, okay, this is not it. Hammer! We've gotten a few little, what the heck was that? We've gotten a few little Peaks. I don't wanna make fun of you so bad but I'm not gonna. Few different looks at Jordan Love. Few though, over the past three years. You were deranged and unhinged and you spend your honeymoon going through every pre-season pass he's thrown in his entire career. That is literally the most Hamilton thing ever. So what has stood out to you about him, his game, his process, what he looks like and how he's progressed in Green Bay? Yeah, so as he said, the sample size is small but there is enough on tape to see some signs of growth. And while I did watch all those pre-season dramas, first I wanna look at the one regular season start that Love has made in his career, 2021 against the Chiefs. And one of the biggest things he struggled with. So you see here, there's an out route from Devonte Adams, a go round at the bottom of the screen there and Love wants to get this ball to Devonte. I mean, who wouldn't? But to do that, he's gotta get this ball out on time and the placement has to be on point and you'll see right now, he's already late. That ball has to be on Devonte as soon as he turns around. It's just coming out now as you can see. And again, the placement, Devonte settles down, he throttles down in that window and the ball sails wide to the outside. You'll see it again here. He leads Devonte when he really has to hold him in that window with the throw. But that's the biggest and it's something he started with consistently throughout that game, but that's the biggest thing I've seen him grow with. I love this angle. This is from the pre-season this past year against the Saints. The little post route from Omari Rogers. He knows those linebackers are dropping. Placement and timing are more important than ever. And you'll see here, that ball is coming out before Omari Rogers gets into that window. He knows the will linebacker is coming over to give him a shot too. So he has to hold Rogers with the throw and look at that placement right over the hands of the Sam. It drops in there before the will can get over and get a shot on Omari. You can't make a better throw than this. This is absolutely perfect. And Omari has to come down with that ball. There's a reason he's in Houston now that probably has something to do with it, those type of plays. But from love's perspective, you can't do it better. And then the glimpse we got to see of him in the regular season last year against the Eagles at Sunday Night Football Game. Here's Tanya settling down. Lazard's going to wrap around on that dig route. And again, the timing is so important here. You'll see here, the linebacker has eyes on Tanya. Love reads that. He knows he's going to have Lazard on the dig. And again, that ball is coming out before Lazard is open. That's what we're talking about with anticipation. And look at the placement. Lazard catches that equidistant from the four Eagles defenders. Nobody's able to get a clean shot on him because that placement was so good. And you'll see it again here from the end zone view. The way that love is able to kind of manipulate defenders too. It's a little bit of a no-look type situation. You see how that front hip opens up? He makes it look like he's throwing to Tanya here. But that ball is going to come across the middle to Lazard instead. And you'll see it by holding him, driving that ball and keeping Lazard in that window. He keeps him from taking a big shot from the defenders. Let's him get upfield. There's a lot of reason for optimism with the growth that we've seen from Lava on tape so far. Give me that, give me it in one sentence, the growth that you've seen that you just went over. Anticipation, timing. Anticipation and timing. All the things you want to see, man, when they show those close ups of him, even on that Devante, like, I'm like, is he going to be like the best quarterback? I'm like, it could be. It literally could be. But if they want to have success, and if they want him to be successful, same thing with Aaron, who obviously like lit up MVP style, but like you need to add something at some point, right? He's got Christian Watson, really came along, jumped up the page, had a chemistry with Rodgers as they have with Jordan, they have to be seen. Romeo Dobbs showed some promise, he's a bit raw, and then you got a bunch of question marks. There's no Lazard now, no Tanya, who you're talking about, no Cobb. So they have the 15th overall pick. What are we doing? Yeah, and as you saw on some of those, on some of those clips, all the ball placement and timing in the world, doesn't matter if your guys aren't catching the ball, right? And if they're not where they're supposed to be. So it is gonna, you'd have to think that they're gonna go after receiver, try to get him some more weapons when you look at the scope of that roster right now and what they have left for him. Yeah, and I think we wanna look at some of these odds, right, really quick? Because we've got, talk me through this. Yeah, it's anybody's game in the NFC North right now, but you look at that, the Packers have the longest odds in the division right now. And I think, you know, a lot of people presuming, again, as you mentioned, there's so many question marks with Jordan Love. I think these other teams have things a little bit more settled, but if Love is able to consistently put together what I showed on that tape, as far as his growth and the way that he's processing and anticipating and placing the ball. The Packers still have a lot of really good players on that team. That seems like great value. They can compete for that North title again. Who, who, who? Hey, standalone sportsbook. Ding Dong's putting the Packers in the ball. What are we doing here, really? That sounds like great value if you want to have some fun. They've got lots of talent. Make a couple upgrades in the draft. This is something that I'd be interested in. Okay, we appreciate you. Great stuff. You idiot. And we're gonna do a scary animal draft after there's another way to say it. Up next, our scary animal draft. They are among us. Is that Paris? Scary animal draft after this, Neon Squirrel saying, Squirrel, how interesting? Wasps, they don't really even pollinate stuff. They're just stinking jerks, they're not afraid of wasps even a little bit. Aps, I had a wasp in my house, I wanted to make them tea in the morning. Back on up and Adams, the shoebill stork stands up to five feet tall. Kay, how tall are you? So scary. How tall are you Kay? What are you doing to me? I'm five feet tall. That stork is as tall as Kay. That looks like so. A human in a costume that has a mask out of the falcons. This is so scary. Speaking of scary. 7.7 feet wingspan, Marissa. What are we doing? Speaking of scary, we've got our scary animals big board right here. We're gonna do a draft. Okay. So back and forth between you and Hamilton and you get the first pick. Okay, my feet, my scariest animals are all of course personal. They are irrational and trauma bound. I, you know, Hamilton will tell you, I send him a lot of things about animals all the time. So, oh, am I looking, where am I looking? You have this. I'm looking. You have this obsessive. Okay. Obsessive morbid fascination with this. My entire Instagram DMs are just stories about weird animal things that horrible things they've done to people. So this is so fitting. Yeah. So my first, easily, I'm gonna go first with my show and my scariest animal, I was seven years old, first grade. We had to walk up to a table and flip over cards that had animals on them to write our first report, animal report. My friend got dolphins, koalas, cute things. Great white shark. Great white shark. Just that, it was that kind of an image, traumatic. When I was seven years old, I went home, my mother, factory worker, cleaned houses and hotels, her work staff told her, oh, I have a great movie about sharks. It's really popular. You should show her. It was Jaws. She put me in the basement in a rainstorm to watch Jaws and I about, and I will never, I've never been in the ocean. I've never been in the ocean because of that. I was just about to say, you still don't go in the ocean. Imagine, just really, I know we have ended up going, just being in the scariest situation, if you're in the water and that happens, crippling fear takes over and I'm sinking to the bottom. Jesus, take the wheel. Go ahead. Sharks have 300 teeth. 300 teeth. Marissa did shark facts. She did. She did her research. Hamilton, go. All right, I'm going with Black Widows. The thing that freaks me out is stuff where you don't know where it's gonna be and all these stories about people that go to the grocery store, they bring home their bananas and there's just a Black Widow and they're grapes and they reach in and they're, no thanks. They could be in your pillow, they could be in your sheets, they could be anywhere and I'm out. No thank you. Black Widows. All right, I'm not afraid of anything like that. Okay, next one I'm gonna go and this is the thing that I have a crippling fear of. My favorite thing to do is we all know is hike. I like to go, I will talk myself out of a hike because I will manifest that there is one of these. A snake off the board too, a snake of any kind. I've seen a pit viper in Costa Rica. I have a crippling fear. It's the most anxiety I've ever felt in thinking or seeing that I can't. Anybody who has a pet snake, you're a complete menace in society. You can tell. That was the nicest version of that. You could have possibly done. The bad pit, it was like, you know, who was the hot, who was dating Kylie Jenner right now? Timothy, whatever. I'm gonna show them in. He was like, okay, let's go on to the date. Here's my pet snake, you know, ginger. Out. Ginger. Out. All right. Out. Who you got? I'm going with koalas. If you've ever seen one up close, they are all hopped up on Eucalyptus. They have these red bloodshot eyes. They's long, crazy claws. You don't know what they're gonna do. They're totally unpredictable and they're hopped up 24-7 on Eucalyptus. Okay, you've already lost. You suck at this. I'm gonna add birds. Birds of all kinds. Owls, chickens, pigeons. They have no consideration. They have no consideration for other people. They run amok. You don't know what they're thinking. I'd rather be in a room with a bear than like a room full of chickens any day. Hate chickens, terrified of them. And I have trauma too. We'll get into that next week. All right, give me scorpions. When we were in Arizona for the Super Bowl, all the stories of people putting on their shoes and scorpions being in them, that's an absolute nightmare. Get them out of here and no scorpions. Scorpions glow in the dark. They glow in the dark. Imagine being in the club and you see a scorpion. I'd be great with that. I'm not afraid of that at all. How much do we have left? 30 seconds. This is the last one here. I don't know who to pick. I'm gonna go with eels. I'm gonna go with eels. I don't believe a picture of an eel. Ooh. Literally, I won't go in a lake. I won't go in any bottle. This is the snake of the water. I'm out. Eels. All right. Give me the blue ring octopus. Blue ring octopus. You go in the ocean. You don't even know that they bite you. They have enough poison that they could kill 26 adult humans with one bite. And you don't even know that they bit you until you're paralyzed. I think this is adorable.