 The best kind of doors are the doors you have to explain. All right, welcome, welcome to Unhinged with the DoorDork. Today, we do have a very special guest. I'm Dan Glover. I'm a product manager with outside of the door group. Okay, let's jump into the next one. Well, I guess after you open that with the alarm sounding and you break your ankle, then someone can come and help you. So I think that's pretty good. It looks like they've got it stopped. It's an alarm exit, but it's not clear. So you couldn't get out. It looks like it is clamped down with those little brackets on the exterior. So that might be a problem. I think they added this for safety, but also kind of the purpose of, you know, a good emergency exit, right? Unless it's an innovation that's tied to the exit device. So when we hit the paint bar, those rotate out of the way. Maybe there's also like a ramp that pops up. Yeah, there you go. That's what that little pipe, you think it's a drainage pipe, but it also hides an expandable shelf that comes up on demand. Oh, like the airplane doors, you know? Yeah, and you can't tell what signage they have on the inside, but the danger is not really clear. It is danger, but it's not very clear. Maybe that lights up when there's a problem. Tape over what I'm assuming it says caution, alarm will sound or emergency exit or something like that. Well, the good thing too is as you're limping away with your cracked or broken ankle, you can drag yourself across an open area. If it is very bad, you're getting away from the heat source if there's a fire. So you got plenty of room to get to a safe area. I like to think of that, but you need to add a sign here, tuck and roll, right? Yeah, stop, drop and roll, yeah. And then cry because your ankle's broken. They're gonna put some padding down below. That could be a fix, you know? If you're not gonna fix the door and any of those, just. I wonder if they have a, if this is on a path of egress, like I wonder if they have emergency exit signs lighted up above. You know, I feel like we'd be able to see them through the glass, but maybe not. Look at this, Romney. Maybe we're looking at this too, too legitimately. Maybe this is still under construction and this is just dogged down right now. They don't wanna have it open until they get finished because they're building the ramp. It's ADA compliant that we get through all those processes and we can get in and out with no problem. Yeah, so I can tell you that, yes, Mia, this is technically not an exit, but if someone was panicking in a situation where this is a game center, so it's like this was very busy, very crowded. I mean, this was probably the most popular areas. And so people were panicking and were trying to run. They might just see an open door and like try to go for it. But I can tell you, I think initially it was supposed to be an exit because why else would they have those doors set up that way in that area? And maybe they just changed because they couldn't build out that way or they decided to go a different route with the building plan. It would make sense to have an exit right there at a busy section of your entertainment game center. I wonder if there, because, I mean, like Dan said, there's a lot of open space if there was plan for like future. Expansion or something. Expansion or like additional businesses, which is what has stopped them from adding stairs or a ramp or anything. I do see a bottom surface applied rod on that. Don't know if it has a top. Yeah, especially being a game center, I'm sure they would want that to be pretty locked down. There was a top rod as well. Okay, I just couldn't see it from the picture. So I saw the bottom. So it's less top. That'd be a new one. Yes, there's a new listing. We're gonna do exit less top rods. This photo is all innovation for us. That's right. Yeah, so it being not an exit, I don't know how bad this is, but what are your guys' thoughts? I'd say seven because it could be misleading and someone gets tragically trapped there in a life safety event. So that's pretty serious. Yeah, I'm a five because while this is probably not meant to be a path of egress, like I clearly would think this was egress. So it's still a life safety issue because it seems like in a panic situation, this seems like it would be a good exit to go. I don't know where the next closest exit is in relation to this. It could be right out of frame for us. Yeah, it wasn't close. I can tell you it wasn't close. Okay, yeah. So then maybe I'm closer to seven with Dan then because even though this wasn't technically an emergency exit, like it looks if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck. What type of seating was in there, Ben? Was it a chair or a stove that could be used to break the glass? Then get out, forget the door, just get through the glass, right? Then you get kind of injuries, but because if I'm panicking, I'm looking for something or somebody to throw through that opening. Note to self, run away from Dan in the situation. Panic people do strange things. So it's like, oh, I thought you were a stool. Like George Costanza from Seinfeld, right? Shoving the old lady out of the way. Yeah, so I would agree with you guys. I wouldn't rate it a 10 by any means, but it's up there because it is confusing in a panicked emergency situation. You don't want your openings to be confusing in any way. I know this because I was there. There's no exit on that whole side of the building. So I think initially they planned this to be one of their emergency exits, but they actually have the same opening, duplicated just a couple of yards that way as well. But if I was panicking and not reading, like most people don't do, I might confuse this as an exit or try to go out that way, at least if something happened on the other side of the event center. Oh, all right. Are you ready for the final photo? Absolutely. Are you ready? I don't know if you're ready. Are we ever though? I mean. Okay, next toy. So it's interesting. It's gonna be really hard to remain closed during that fire if there's no way to keep the door closed, but maybe there's something we're not seeing that's hidden. Maybe it's the mysterious invisible strike in there that we just don't see. You know, so it's completely transparent. It's lead-free, brass-free attachment. There's a magnetic, it just comes right out. It's coming from the frame. See, so we're going just opposite. It comes from the frame. Residential-ish, there's screams innovation to me, you know, like just like... It's off of three doors in the basement and just brought it up and use it again. I'm gonna guess that this door closer is also not properly adjusted. So every time this door closes, it just slams. Like, I know it says hospital, but this screams hotel, you know, like into the stairwell where it just slams every single time it closes. Yeah, you can get a glimpse, if you zoom in, you can get a glimpse of a hospitality lock there. So I'm guessing the hotel, which are notoriously known for fire code violations. Yeah. And I can't tell if that's a laminated door or PVC, but it's interesting. Yeah, it's a really, really old style of door. And Dan, I was wondering if you had any insight if you knew of what, like, because it appears to be like some kind of wood veneer, but it's like solid. It's like... Yeah, it could be a protruded door. You know, they do that where it's actually FRP, but it's literally a solid slab and they're real durable, but they get real ugly over time, but... Yeah, and then I saw these like hindering forcements. So I was thinking this is probably a really heavy door. So definitely not meeting ADA compliance here. Yeah, it looks like they used to have a mortise lock, but then they replaced us. They used discussion to hide everything and then... Kind of cylindrical lock, and then they threw up this tubular, I don't know, this might be like a third generation lock on this door trying to make this work. And I like the contrast, because that looks like it's kind of a brushed finish. Contrast between the stainless look, the brushed nickel and then... You know, mixed finishes are very popular, but I'm not sure these ones are the finishes you want to put together. Is this trending? Is this what I should hope this is not trending? And also the lazy lever, I also... Well, maybe that's... It's a short throw, because there's nothing to throw, right? Yeah, it's a pull. Yeah, it's a pull. It's just a pull, but it's mounted in a different orientation. Cherry Hospital State of North Carolina, call us. Call us. We have some solutions for you. I mean, it looks like, yeah, the door closers been replaced a couple of times or adjusted a couple of different times because there's a couple of different screws here. The door being that heavy, it broke down the door closer over time and they placed it with cheaper knockoff version or... I'm surprised we don't see oil stains from that also. This might be a newer one because they just recently replaced it, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, and then you got the contrasting light kit that's even a different finish, so it's... The thing is is like, across the hall looks nice, right? Looks like that has at least gone through a semi-recent update. Right. Yeah. Yeah, because the, you know, the kit plate's stainless and at least matches. And then maybe that's that contrast. Again, you're picking it up, tying the carpet to the floor to the door. I mean, that's a little bit, I love it. This is the piece that holds it all together. I love it. It catches your eye and then, you know, so you go from the floor to the lock, it's just amazing. Yeah, it tells you where the lever is in case of an emergency, yeah. And wired glass. I mean, that's kind of a thing that's kind of gone away. There's other improvements to glazing that you don't have to use the wired safety glass unless it's in the code for that. I'm guessing it was probably grandfathered in because wired glass, that being said, I don't know if they've been inspected in a while because this looks like it's been here for at least some time. That's one hiccup that the pandemic brought on was the lack of inspections. I see more and more of this because people just weren't being held accountable over the last couple of years. Definitely should have a latch, though, if it's a fire. It would help the door stay closed. Please give it a fighting chance because you're gonna tell us there's no strike on the other side, it's just still mortised out, right? It's just a big open. Well, if there's no latch, does it matter? It's the intent. See, we gotta think about the design intent. Let's give this a knocking score. How bad do you guys wanna knock on this one? Well, it's a fire door. I don't see a label, but it says it's a fire door. So I would assume it should have some means to default to staying closed in a fire. So I'm gonna go with at least a seven, maybe higher, it's violating several things. Benji, this might be the first 10. Yeah, it sounds good. I mean, there's no latch for a fire door. And that's somebody's gonna... Some farmers are gonna get in faster, but that's not good. Yeah, there are a lot of... I'm assuming if it is hospitality, which it looks like there's a lot of rooms and a lot of people right behind this door. And I would agree with you. It's probably a 10 or nine or eight or seven somewhere in there. I mean, the door might be heavy enough to hold something off for a while, at least for people to exit, but chances are smoke's gonna be thrown through there and that's what's gonna be the real killer for all those people trying to escape. Mia, if you're saying it's a 10, I'm calling it a 10. I think it's a 10. I mean, this fire, this door can't do its job. Or what if somebody put the fire label on the stake? So it's still bad. Jeff did send a third picture, but it's of the fire label, but it was painted. Painted overall. This is a 10. Yeah, 10. This is our first 10. We got one, we knocked it so hard. Dang. Wow, sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. Sometimes you might die. We wanna prevent that in all chances we can. We wanna prevent that. Well, thank you, thank you, Dan, the man for being with us today. And thank you, Mia, as always. It's a pleasure having you guys on the show. Join us next time for the next episode of Unhinged. 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