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I say only a little bit because it is still Manchester City away from home and they are bloody fantastic, they really are. That said, we had opportunities in the game, they I think still dominated the game, but we had a go at them and had we taken our chances we might have had a very different outcome, but much to, well it's been our problem for much of the season has been that we've not been clinical enough when we've had golden opportunities, we've not taken them and so we lost the game. I mean that's about the size of it isn't it? I mean going into it, I think if we'd have you know, tried the Derby game or if we'd have beaten Newcastle and Wofford or even won one of the two games, I think everyone felt a little bit. I don't know, less pressure or more, I don't know, more looking forward. I wasn't particularly like, it's not one of those games City away, never as good as they are, and they're fantastic. I don't sit there and think we haven't got a chance today, it's mad because when you go to like, like to Liverpool or something like that you think, this is going to be harder. City was a different, you know, mindset I suppose but obviously the outcome was not great. Yeah, it's a difficult one isn't it? I don't know, I just, you wish you had that mindset with every away game down, you're almost like, well we can beat these and if we don't, I suppose if you don't you, I don't know, I suppose if you don't it's not, not it doesn't matter because of course it does but it's like, you never want to usually expect. It's a weird game because it is, because they are so good you are, well you think well if they play well they'll beat you. And on the flip side as I said before you go into the game you're not worrying too much about it because you're thinking well we have done these before so it is a weird one to approach but as you mentioned the two games before I'm not getting six points out of those two games really. Not the stuff on that. Yeah, left us onto a bit of a hard to nothing really because there was always, you know, if what happened, which what happened is what happened, what is expected to happen, happens you are, you think well that's another game. So you're right, you know, you win those two games before and we all go into it and we go, we'll see what happens today, play well and Evan and I go, we'll sign, we're moving in the right direction. It's just that because we haven't won for last four games, we haven't won. It's just, and then you look at like well we've got spares away now and then we've got a couple of tricks. Suddenly the two away games become tricky away games. Suddenly there's the mist starts to descend on a few people and that's what makes it, no but I, you know, I understand that to a point because it's not in the way we're playing or anything, it's just that. Again because being in a decent run before we went into the derby and you just think well all right well see what happens in those away games but the other games we've got to win and obviously we haven't won them so it does change the pressure slightly but we went into the game and obviously no garner which meant well I don't know if it did mean going to three at the back but we did go three at the back and were you comfortable with that Baz? Yeah, well honestly I was because I just, I didn't see anyone. Maybe Tom Dave is going to come in so they may feel me could have played with a flat three but Sniarland's too slow so they wouldn't have been any points important even because they just passed and ran round them. So I can understand why he went to three at the back, we've got three very good, no we've got three good centre backs and I thought and it did it did kind of work, it allowed us to get up the pitch with not so much common but with Luka Dino and the other side we were allowed to play higher up and as I've done on my tactics show last week I highlighted the space in behind the full backs and that was the area which we exploited and when we did exploit it we looked very dangerous so yeah that was okay with the three at the back and now a lot of people don't like it but I was okay with understanding what he's trying to do you know let's see how we go with it and I thought for the most part I thought we don't okay. I think it was individual errors which I said after the game individual errors cost us the game not only the system cost us the game you know pick for that to make a brilliant save from Michael Keane but just that part of the clearance and he had a save from Ria Maras which was close to him it was a good save other than that they didn't have any chances in the first half really just got the goal and which we gifted them with which we give away so I think if you look at the game overall they didn't have a lot of chances in the game so I think the system did work I think it worked. Yeah I mean there was a few changes wasn't there obviously that's the main one going with the three centre backs in the team and it was of course because Garner had had the late injury didn't want to risk him so yeah I think that's kind of the natural go-to as you said maybe Tom Davis could have come in but you still want Guilfe on your side although didn't really do anything to be honest to him and he's been quiet love Guilfe he's been great the season but the last few games he's gone missing so yeah I'm with you a little bit on this one but I think actually it's been individual errors that have cost us in the game you know Jeri Mina the first goal that shouldn't be happening and you know City don't you know pass pass goal and that's how that's what they'll do to you so you can't afford to make silly mistakes you might be able to get away with that one against other sides but you can't do that against Manchester City you know Richarlison should score and Port is in front and I know I say should score people might say that's a bit harsh but I think we should target at least keep it safe really safe yeah but you know and I and there was one we've done really well to get ourselves on there I'm skipping a bit ahead that we've got about two one at one point have to go two behind they then make it three one and almost instantly after that you'd say Richarlison probably should score that chance where who cuts it back to him now Luckman Luckman come on did really well and and wall cut as well as a chance that he blasts over from always hits into the ground and it goes over from about six yards out and I just think yeah don't get me wrong I'm not saying that you know City we went there and we puffed our chest out and we you know we've equaled City but I don't think City were at their best I don't think we were necessarily our best but you know we definitely had opportunities to to make sure we left the Etihad with something I think the way we've I'm encouraged because the way we've played now Faraday perceived top six away and I don't think we've been we haven't been batting any of the games we've we've matched every single team Saturday they had a lot of the ball but he didn't really do much with you know and that's testament I think to what we did and I think the good thing is we went there and we tried to just play our normal game and okay they were better than us well they are better than us there's no point sitting here going we're better than them and we shouldn't have because we're not better than them they're better than us but we still had a a right go go we had it and what's the bit me me making me dad and me mates few minutes trying to play out from the back but what's the point in changing the way we play to smash it long for the because the minute it leaves your foot and goes up near it's a 50-50 so we start booting it long and then next week try to pass it out from the back how are we ever gonna learn you've got to learn how to play yes you have to be quicker yes you have to take a bit more care of course you do but the only way you're gonna learn as a football team is to do what you do every week man City under Guardiola first season finished four at a win a lot of games at the end of the season to scrape forth the amount of goals they give away from Arsenal but with the back because that's how we wanted them to play now they're fantastic are they still give it chances because we got the ball back every time so it is what it is stick your guns you look and like you've got a I thought man city could have put eight pastas on Saturday I really do I think they could have scored anytime they wanted to and I'm not saying that I'm not saying that's that's down to us they're just I just think they could have stepped up anytime they wanted to for me the system would only only would only have worked properly if we had some command in midfield and I don't think we had any command in the centre of the park like you said I think Gomez he tried to get on the ball but he was he was so deep at times because I think with a three I think it's it's fine when you can push up a little bit but the way we were trying to play and I think it showed on their face goal is meaning to get to the ball in that own box and then where does he go because they're so good at pressing yeah where does he go and to not have anyone from midfield to almost protect that three or I just I just thought that was the that was the position we were let down in was not having someone in midfield who could just protect he would have you he would have you'd ask them to you though because you can get really he can't have you seen him do it Tom can get around the pitch Guilfee plays higher up and I don't think Guilfee can do it don't think Guilfee is going to drop off and ask for the ball in that position Gomez was but I just thought city's press was so good that he just don't give you any time and I thought that showed and our players are just so weird and I slightly disagree with you what you say about going long because I think man city what is so good that is going long I think what man city brilliance that is sucking you in and then when the and this this is because they've got the no matter what they say it's because they've got the best goalie in the Premier League it's because their goalie can get the ball and put you know it's someone 60 yards on his on his tie if he wants to be so good at it so I think they can go long and I think that's what makes city so good and some dangerous as they bring you in bring you bring you in and then come along well I think I think we've got a lane to be able to go long now in the same way I no no I think we should be able to lay in that that role I think you've got no you I think city have shown that at times you have to go to smash the ball off in the back right no it's not smashing the ball we've got a goalkeeper we've I am listening we've got a goalkeeper well I am we've got a goalkeeper who I think is is exceptional as feet but is a ratter because he just gets like almost the head of himself at times but we've seen that when he wants to he can hit anybody when he wants to and then that's a skill that we've got a lean out of out to out to use is that it's you don't always have to play out the back and when I'm saying when city do it when they go long it's long in a brilliant way it's like pinging it to people that's what I'm saying they drag people in and everyone everyone goes oh these are going short so we'll press and you're absolutely right about what you're saying about Man City by the way in the first season absolutely spot on they were getting caught because they go keep it was shit yeah and every time they try they give the ball to like John Stones people would press on them and they give him it back to goalie and the goalie would make a mess of it yeah but now they've got this goalkeeper he can he just dragged them in and he just goes oh I'll just knock a little cheeky chip over and that's what I'm saying I think that's that's an evolution he's on pick foot then isn't he well pick foot's got to get better at that because there's a kicking but I'm what I was trying to say but if you're and this won't happen so it doesn't matter if we agree or disagree because the man will want us to play the same way everybody remember city beat Wofford 6-0 at home last year at Wofford and he would go home to Chelsea the week later in the commentator it was like you're gonna have to change the way you play football and he was like well never change the way you play there's no matter we've lost there we'll keep doing it until we get it right which is which is how you coach yeah but I'm talking if you're gonna hit a ball long you've got to have a centre forward you can actually get hold of it and knock the people about and Dom don't know right there's no question some people if you look on social media some people will tell you he was horrendous and he wasn't no he definitely wasn't horrendous but he's still not good enough to play that role on his own and be able to take balls down and knock people about he doesn't do it do you know what I mean but you still I disagree with you saying they can score at any time because I think if a team is that good they would I just don't believe that teams haven't got it in them to go step up a level now because they couldn't have stepped up a level they're trying the best to get that game wrapped up early and they couldn't do it they weren't capable of doing it because they didn't cut us open the goals they scored were a mistake they never once went bum bum bum and wasted it because we let them that because do you let themselves that yeah they never get the chance to do that and again it was our mistake you know as I said Sterling comes on scores ahead of that he's no right to be anywhere near within the first goal the first goal is us playing it short now what mean it should do him your right if he gives that back to pickford because pickford tried one I don't know whether it was nil nil or won it out of his hands with great ball to the charts and he just a little bit over it and he was one of the first half and he's like jumping going because he almost had them in he almost had them in that you're right that's probably what we should have done a bit more was just kept it until Labour right on us rolled it to pickford and let him bang it to the what happened on that one would mean that for the first goal is you're passing it mean his touches a bit heavy with section back into our box and then straight down the middle it's back into play but I suppose you have to give the credit to Rouge close and then he blocks off this pass so you're right you have to make sure you connect with it properly and he doesn't he scoops it and then zoom it gundo and takes it zoom it has to move towards the ball he doesn't he stands often and two passes it's a goal isn't it and you're like the game is the game wasn't even because they had a lot of the ball but you weren't doing anything I think at that point when they score as well psychologically the damage I think it does when you go to a ground like the Etihad and you've had a golden opportunity to get yourself in front and we started the game brightly this was like within the first sort of 15 minutes I think and we should as I say in my opinion I might be saying now it's hard to say you should score I think we should take the lead there with Retarleton I think you should bury it with them on the look 15 minutes played and we've got something to play for I'm not saying look City are unbelievable and I get what you're saying as well pet that they maybe they could have turned it on a bit more they I've had people messaging saying they were there and it felt like City were in second gear but I'm also with you and thinking you know at one point when it's 3-1 as I say before Sterling scored which you shouldn't we had an opportunity straight away after that and we'd be 3-2 again and then they're thinking well maybe they did just I don't know did we coast against Newcastle no no did we just poor night okay did we coast against Wofford because we are so superior to those two teams yeah if we want if you can turn something on like that you'd never lose your football game you can't it's people can go they'd step up well they might if it gone 2-2 maybe they would have stayed I don't know but they weren't capable of stepping up at 1-0 or 2-0 they couldn't step up anymore they have to rely on us to give them their goals if they cut us open and go well I cut us in last year they were 3-0 and you're right they could have put 8 past us that day they literally did go like that this foot off the pedal it doesn't matter now I don't think they did that in saturday I don't think they were capable of doing it saturday are they really done well did he even post your man was absolutely fucking well clashed by the way my field finandino oh my god everything they did just come through everything he won shackles he passed it he got it back he was up and down and we you're right we didn't have anybody who could do even a shadow even a shadow it's the energy you have to master it I don't think we had anyone in the centre of park who could master that energy I think Ghana was you know he's a massive miss he's the pivot point for everything I think that was a huge miss and start an area where we where we really have to be looking for we've got to but the other parts of the pitch and we you know we haven't even spoke about this really is you go on three at the back you will lie heavily then on your wing backs she must call me again man listen I'm not gonna sit here we all love him no we're not gonna sit here playing well but the thing about it is right he's not playing well right and I've said this a couple of times I think we both said it is but it's so obvious that there's no one on the bench that can replace that then you then automatically that says to me that they don't feel like there's anyone near them they don't feel like John Joe Kenny's anywhere near them they don't feel like hogging anyone near them and obviously there's no one I'm not even alien with anyone coming through so that's gotta be and you know listen if you if you listen to people outside the club who don't watch us they probably wouldn't know they're asking their elbow you ask Paul Mason Paul Mason would probably say he's having a fantastic season because people don't understand the way I look at it is it when people say there's it's like like we've got everything in this world there's like black and white now isn't it if you get a size James Coleman for having a bad game or having three or four bad games well he's the new whipping boy he's not the new whipping boy there's never a whipping boy feel woke up wasn't the whipping boy if he's not playing well you can say he's not playing well you don't say we're not winning games because he's not playing well the same with James Coleman the way we've got to look at it now with James Coleman is and that not having that person on the bench says to me we have to be looking now to bring somebody in who can go in and try and replace him yeah that you know whether you think James Coleman is finished or if you think no no he's just having a blip he's coming back whatever my heart hope he's you know coming back my head says something slightly different because of the injuries but we've got to be prepared for life after that's the same for every single position and it's these moments that there's someone everything's good you're like oh is he's boss oh he's boss oh he's boss you don't when you're having these moments you go no we we could rip this whole team up and start again because that's sometimes what your mind says what they'll be saying is Marcel Brands and the manager is right we need to be looking at that position seriously yeah Guilfee Siginson Seamus Coleman Garnett anyone who's around 30 you should be looking anyway yeah you should be looking and going who's who's going to replace him if we could get a player better than the charlison yeah you should be getting a player better than i love the charlison we all do but if there's a left wing you come on now and he went well he's amazing but it might mean the charlison has to battle to get in but you've got you've got four there haven't you've got you've got Theo you've got Seamus you've got Guilfee Siginson and you've got Garnett players all around 30 who are supposed to be at the peak some might have gone the peak but you've got to be look that's what Marcel Brands job is now is to be looking at replacing those four players really it's even it's even having people it's even having people who can battle for that position properly so if like if if i don't play as well as a candy pet replaces me because he's at the same quality it's not a fact of like just because he's saying we need another right wing back who's or a right back who's as good as Coleman who can get take Coleman's place for it that doesn't mean Coleman shitting he's finished and he's gone forever that might just mean this lads wrestled the position of and the same with Guilfee the same with Walcott i think Walcott's got loads to offer do i think Theo's playing well enough to guarantee a place every week no i don't i don't do i think look i don't i don't think look one can play that role do i think the charlison can possibly if we had something better than in the middle doesn't mean i think Theo needs to go now that's it you can't you see people on saturday yeah they mean that shite what the hell are we doing fucking pop doom is miles better than you like you loved me in the two weeks ago all right he hasn't had the greatest week but he's just come into the team it's gonna be it's gonna take time mean me and there has has been uh somewhat it was it was ropey on saturday and i think you could probably say similar for maybe the the previous two games as well but he's like he's not played enough get anywhere near enough games and you know you want yerry meaner and keen playing because they're our players and we've spent a lot of freaking money on them um zuma i really like zuma i would i would like to see zuma come in to be honest i haven't said that on on recent form um you'd probably want to see zuma come back in but look yerry meaner i've got every chop every faith that yerry meaner is going to turn out to be a good signing but he's he needs to work but michael keen wasn't brilliant on saturday and neither was neither was mean well what's the common what's the common thing between them because they're playing in a three for the start yeah you're changing their positions normally with meaner picks that let's just say normally meaner picks that ball on bright day he's got he's got a left back next to no no we might come and get it off him and then give him it back and then you're changing the point of where you come out you've dragged someone into to dean if they were higher up dean gives it back to him and then you switch you change team rad and then you've got keen white next year in this system he didn't have dean dean's up the road he's around the corner and he didn't even have colman's where colman's up the road so it's it's those little things that can make a difference and if you've just come in to the team and you're bedding with new players anyway all those things can matter but isn't that i i look at that and then think well he'll look at that obviously because we're looking at it the manager will look at that and go well all right well we might want to play this system again what have we done wrong in this system with the and it's about leaning if we're three years down the line or two years down the line we're still making them errors then yet you start going do you need a striker and a right back and a midfielder but preferably a really good 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