 We're just going to have a final 15 minutes of free for all. I'm looking for Stacey Willow Wallace and I think Sally Evans was going to join us from the other rooms and we're going to try to do- They just might not be back from the rooms yet, John. Yeah, we'll give it a couple minutes here. So Heidi, I don't know, we left this kind of informal and unstructured other than, you know, trying to do something fun and close out but I personally just want to thank everyone for the wonderful day. Went out, I think, without really any technical glitches and well, you know, our hosts and moderators have held everybody to the gun and we've, you know, completed things on schedule and I'm really overwhelmed how successful this is. I cannot duplicate the physical conference experience but there are a lot of interesting facets to this. So Sally's now joined us and she's spotlighted so Sally, welcome. Hello, thank you. I hope room A is going well. Yes, it is. So I see a comment here. This was my first ETD conference. Can't wait to go to one in person. So I don't know if folks want to turn on their videos and maybe just for a minute I can turn off the spotlights and we can see each other and, you know, maybe folks could share a word in the chat about, you know, their experience and maybe something that they learned or something that they're excited about but if nothing else we can say a big hello to each other. So I'm going to turn off the spotlights just for a minute. And you can toggle up at the top right. There's a gallery view and you can toggle between that and speaker view and the gallery view will let you see everybody's smiling faces there and you can scroll around. I think we have 49 people with us at the moment but people may be returning. I also send an email out to everybody during the last plenary session so if people were reminded to come back and join us it's wonderful to see so many smiling faces. Yeah and again if you want to turn on your video and say hi if you have any comments I guess you can unmute and just, you know, feel free. Also if, yeah, also if you have your cocktail or if you want to bring a pet, oh good I see some pets. This is awesome. This is awesome. Oh there's pets. Oh yes, hold on. Yes. Oh there's those. I had my husband take the kids otherwise I do usually have a six month old and a two and a half year old at home with us so it's been interesting and lots of fun but baby cuttles are always wonderful at the end of the night especially now. John I want to thank you for all the hard work you've put into this and for everybody that supported you in terms of getting this session together. I went very well in my opinion and it's very efficient. It's extremely efficient. If you think about the time and the footwork that we've had with being able to eliminate as a result of meeting online it's pretty phenomenal. Yeah it's great to meet in person too but for efficiency's sake this is really efficient. Thank you so much Larry but really I have to give credit to our wonderful board of directors. I'm just one of many helpers here and you know it's sometimes it's like herding cats and sometimes it's a big party and you know but we enjoy what we do and believe in it and I think that's it's an important thing and that we bring our community to community together so thank you again for the compliments. And he has control he keeps us online and on track believe me. Remind us that you will send out a list of all the people who were participants because I actually copied some of the comments sections and it's like I need to talk to that person I want to talk to that person so if I know their name and their contact information or the university where they're at that'll be helpful for any of us who want to follow up privately on certain topics. Yes absolutely I will be happy to share that list with everyone. Janice there's something you need to realize and John you need to realize this too in the case you don't already know it is when you save a recording such as you're doing today it also saves the chat. Okay oh great okay it's good to know. So all that chat now you may want to go through that chat and break it up per session it would be much more useful to us as participants that are going back in to look at the information if it's kind of divided up so that you know this chat goes with this session and that chat goes with this session. We will absolutely do that and Larry I just want to thank you and everybody else this is different from what other members have said thank you everyone for your engagement I suspect that social media could replicate that in person but I've been to a couple of large meetings online and what I just love is the participant engagement we all get to learn from each other in addition to learning from the presenters and so I do hope as we you know learn lessons from COVID and all of the adaptations that we have had to make that that's one we can transition into our face-to-face interactions because it adds so much depth and dimension personally to my experience so thank you to everyone for your engagement across this very full afternoon. I wanted to add too that I've made a comment here but I always find these conferences not only enlightening but comforting in the sense that we all are dealing with a lot of the same issues right and that's been first conference we had years ago that was the thing I first started in the EGDs I was thinking are we doing this right why are we having these issues what is going on we have these conferences find out you know what everybody's dealing with about the same thing and but then there are people that have worked through these problems and work through issues and offer these suggestions so this these conferences are always wonderful to attend and I certainly second thanking the U.S. ETDA board for all of their efforts in in making this a wonderful experience. I just say this is all John like we're just sort of here. I just like to say that a couple years ago this started out as me helping out a colleague to catalog a backlog of ETDs and this conference has put everything better in the context and I do this kind of a new skill set I've mostly been a music and media catalog librarian for 20 years of my career and so it's nice to be put this new skill set in the context and see some faces we're doing people are doing the same thing so thank you to them and everybody else we certainly have a plethora of experts in our community and it's wonderful to help each other out so before we forget our one of our cast at hand I think we have Stacey with us now do we want to go ahead and try a little raffle on here Stacey and Sally yes I was gonna say I'm here but Sally's actually I think picking the number um gotcha okay um I'm gonna pick the number I'm going to hold on so I'm picking the number okay I'm gonna pick up an envelope I'm randomly picking a number okay I was gonna ask if you want somebody from the audience to I can or we could like I'll just like I have an envelope I'm gonna randomly use the number okay this is not rigged folks we just we're trying to figure out you know I just like I just picked up the fly it was next to me it's my no it's a credit card statement so she's she's gonna give me a two-digit number I we have um our system of signs user IDs like randomly to people so I got the registration list in front of me and she's gonna have a digit number and whoever like I just the two digit number is 23 23 so whoever has the numbers two and three together consecutively in their sign in if John can find one you get a prize they're Sally there isn't oddly enough they're addresses but there's no combination two three and 18 numbers okay I'm gonna go with another number let's go with two four okay here we go number four two four is Victoria Volcanova I'm gonna I'm gonna highlight this so we'll remember to get back to these people um it'd be neat if we had somebody in our session I think we're down about 50 people we had 200 I think we had 150 at one of the plenary sessions that was the max but you know how these virtual things go it checked for Victoria and and she's not among the participants at this moment but exciting for her yeah she gets a congratulations Victoria all right so I'm gonna pick another number I'm picking up a piece of paper that is my um that's a weird number okay so the next two digit number is 21 okay it's number 218 it's Sam Bird from Virginia Commonwealth University on both him okay great okay and one more yes please okay I'm picking up another piece of paper and the first number I see is four five four five okay there's four five three that's Catherine Aster from Stanford University yay okay cool so uh I think we have taken care of that we should have announced this at the beginning of the session you know I we thought about it at the very last second but if you come to our live conferences we you know us we we spend a set amount of money every year same it's been for the last 10 years Stacey knows about this but we managed to get a lot under a budget um for the price we pay for things and it's a very small percentage of the proceeds but everybody loves a swag oh and for people who are asking just like just because I've had a few people ask this is my chinchilla he is in chinchilla his name is Bubba Duffy Snappy Tart he goes by Bubs I thought that was what the raffle was about we're gonna get the chinchilla right well you'll be you can have it he poops everywhere and it's kind of is it for pets or food I know it's terrible it was Michael Moore's movie yes he's he's been hanging out here all day long and listening but yeah we used to have another chinchilla we he passed away his name was Chauncey Boudreau Boovins the third where do you come up with these names silly it's it's those are long stories but yes they were Bubs and Chauns but yeah this is Bubs we also have two guinea pigs but they're fighty jerks and I'm not gonna try to pull them out but thank you Courtney we're gonna have to hire you and there's an entertainment act for our next conference so folks we have I think another minute left on our official time clock here my voice is going obviously I'm gonna spend a long day but I'm just so excited that we had a wonderful time together a really good day like this was really good I always love like for the person who said that this was their first EGD conference it they're really like they're wonderful I've I've gone to every one of them except the one in California and that was just because I was I have my work schedule but let me but if you haven't gone to an in-person one you should definitely go well cross our fingers we'll see what happens next year I think we're gonna review this next spring we signed the contract with or re-signed it for next September move the date from this year to next year but we'll survey the landscape and see if it's going to be safe and that's our primary concern but I'm not at all displeased at all with interaction with this zoom and we might we're looking at lots of models but we might look at you know maybe doing a physical conference every other year or some other you know interesting scenarios we'll have some interesting discussions among the board and for those of you as participants we'd love to have your input in effect we'll put it together together a post-conference survey and send that out to you all so you can rank us on what we did right and wrong with today's venue but I think as far as I'm concerned it's largely a huge success and thanks to everyone who's you know helped to make that happen so gang it's 6 30 on my clock probably some on yours I am gonna bid you adieu and thank you so much everyone and let's stay in touch this has been a wonderful event and wonderful people that we've met along the way we're starting like one of our groups we're starting a chat like a user chat every third Wednesday at 2 p.m. check out yeah all right that out excellent okay gang everybody stay safe and thanks again for joining us take care everyone thanks so much bye bye bye bye