 Hello and welcome to another edition of Freightfully Forgotten's trash or treasure. I'm The Trash. I'm The Treasure. Today we're gonna be talking about Evil Dead Rise. Yeah. And is it trash or treasure? The movie starts off, you see the classic shot of Vrrrrrrrrrrrr and then it just turns out to be a drone that someone is flying. Which I kinda like the way they kind of did you there. And we learned that three people are at a cab. And it turns out that one of the people is uh, sick. And she's possessed by the evil dead then it starts again one day earlier in this high-rise Apartment building then we get introduced to the mom Ellie and her three kids and Also her sister Beth and her sister Beth comes to visit Ellie because she's having some problems And we learned that the building is being torn down and everybody has to evict Ellie sends the kids out to go get pizza These kids look way too young to drive by the way. Yeah These kids are driving they come back with a pizza and Earthquake happens and shakes the whole building the parking lot in the basement There's a big crack one of the kids goes down in there And it's actually like this library with all these old hidden books crosses hanging and it's like a tomb a book Yeah bound in leather Necronomicon and he also grabs a bunch of like LPs a bunch of records because he's like a DJ yeah shows him earlier as old DJing in his bedroom So I guess he wants to know it's on these records start flipping through this book crazy pictures of demonic possession and all that stuff Yeah, like I think you should put that back you shouldn't have taken that you kind of tells her to fuck off I would too I want to actually keep that yeah, I keep it damn right side keep it Yeah, he throws on the records to see what's on there. It's a sermon by a priest I like the recorded sermons back then in the 20s on records. Yeah, that's all Plays a second record Paris talking about this book he found which is an economic on yeah, and he starts reading the incantations Of course bringing back the evil dead Ellie is going down to take some stuff down to the car because they got a move And she goes into the elevator Something attacks her in the elevator we're not gonna spoil the rest the movie because it's brand new We're only gonna take you up to that point So if you want to see how it ends keep watching the movie, but more importantly is it trash or treasure? First bits of treasure is the plot and the idea for the movie which is actually kind of neat It's a refreshing take. I like the fact that it takes place in a high-rise building It's kind of neat got away from the cabin setting and even how he finds the necronomicon of the records is a bit different I like it where it's actually something that's been buried. It's just not left out Yeah, yeah like in the originals right and it's got more of the actual like religious twist to it Where it's not like an archaeologist to found all this it's actually like a priest that was into all this stuff shot very well Yeah, it's got a lot of panoramic shots and everything and it looks great tell it's a big budget movie But doesn't have that awful big budget sheen to it Mm-hmm It has a more regretty look to it which is good because you don't want to sheen on an evil dead move right Yeah, and it's very dark and it's raining too right which are perfect aspects for a horror movie The effects in this movie are really good most of it seemed to be practical. It was all good and believable nothing look Fake the gore is good, too There are some scenes that actually like maybe go uh tons of blood the cheese grader to the leg Oh, that was hard to watch as you can see the strips come off Strips like you would on a block of cheese when that kid gets stabbed in the bicep It was good, too. That was kind of like a yeah, you feel it I felt that the acting for this movie is pretty damn good, too. It's pretty believable even the kids are pretty decent One thing that really stood out for me was the sound design was really good She's climbing out of the bathtub and you hear the fingernails on the tub Just the sound of it like it kind of gets to you and the music was pretty good, too It actually reminded me a lot of the music in the first movie not really music per se, but just sounds you know Hearts back to the original and more importantly it works in the movie exactly and the setting itself is good The high-rise apartment building is a fresh and interesting concept for an evil dead movie take it out of the secluded forest and Move it into a populated area, which is sort of neat That brings us to the trash of evil dead which on the flip side is also the setting because we really felt they didn't Utilize that setting enough in this movie like yeah You have this whole high-rise apartment To use and for the most part they just stay in their little apartment on whatever Florian is and barely venture out at all evil dead You know sort of blocks them in right they like collapse. This is the stairway. That's fine But still get people from the other floors trying to help yeah There should have been more of that more cannon fodder for the dead ice Oh, yeah like there's actually that the death toll in this movie Considering how bloody they wanted to go with it isn't that high no and also seeing that they're in an apartment building There should be tons of people for the dead ice to kill and there's actually Yeah, you probably count on what yeah pretty much one hand one maybe maybe two not quite all two Long and winded way of saying they should have used more of the apartments Yeah, more of the high-rise the stairwells other levels, you know all that kind of stuff If you didn't even see it this movie gets far too bogged down in character development Which is the opposite that I thought it was gonna be yeah, I thought it was gonna be just like shitty characters right to the blood and gore But it was like okay. There's almost too much character development at the point. We're like okay Let's move it along time Some shit hits the fan here It was a lot of pointless stuff too that had nothing to do with the movie They were struggling so hard to define these characters and give them back story and it was all useless Yeah, it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things whatsoever the fact that the dad is gone So what it could just simply be that he's not there. Yeah, you don't need a story for it Yeah, or it can just be she's a single mom. That's it. I wasn't even wondering where's the dad Let's assume the day and age we live in it's a single mom Yeah, I mean who gives a fuck and then the kids with all their shit who the fuck cares Beth wasn't really used enough for the hero aspect of this movie fell so flat You have every opportunity to make her into an ash character doesn't need to be exactly like a no But but you need that aspect somebody to fight the dead you didn't get that with the Beth character It's almost like she never embraced the hero in her It's okay if she's not the hero right off the bat like Ash in the first movie wasn't the hero right off the bat He became it through the struggles. He went through. Yeah, you don't really get that here Not saying it's got to be like the first evil dead in that respect, but you're not fighting with her You know like oh, yeah, get out alive. Go get him. You know kill the dead I'm rooting for yeah, you don't root for it for Beth You don't really root for anybody in this movie another huge problem with this movie was the pacing made no sense It was too all over the map. Well first we mentioned it's slow to get going like that whole scene in the beginning What the cabin you don't even fucking need that because these aren't main characters They don't have nothing to do with the whole plot Yeah, you don't need that then all that character building in the beginning is fine But it goes way too long and then you're like what are the demons gonna come out here? Yeah, then when they do is like, okay, this shit's gonna hit the fan And it doesn't like the rhythm of the movie is like it starts to pick up and you're like, okay Here we go and it stops and it literally stays Literally it stops and it's like fuck and then the kids start talking and they start getting bogged down into useless Dialogue and then it picks up again. You're like, okay Now we're gonna get into some serious shit and then it stops dead and then more useless dialogue Get into the fucking action here and there is a lot of pointless dialogue in this movie That doesn't need to be there at all and that really it hurts the pacing of the movie You just don't say things like that when when the world is falling apart They just went through a bunch of shit and then this then it stops. Are you really gonna be a mommy? What the fuck kind of a thing to say is that keep running or doing what you were doing dead I'd talk too much where it bogs it down Just shut up already quit with your fucking talking in your nursery rhymes. Oh mommy loves you Don't you just want to kill? Yeah, get to the point here far too repetitive. Oh very repetitive Especially with the dead ice. Yeah, it was the same thing over and over again stab the dead. I'd Everything stops. Yeah crumbles and then all the dead. It's dead gets back up again attacks them stab Yeah Literally just freeze it. Yeah. Yeah, and it was like and then falls over and then gets up again And does it still mommy loves you mommy? Oh And it was not even different dead ice. Yeah, it's the same one. It was all the mother dead I just like it was way too much of the one mother dead. I to they showed the mother too much They showed her face just the frame of her face Way too much. You got sick of looking at her. Yes Yeah, exactly because you know you took what is sort of a creepy scary look and you just simply saturated The whole fucking movie with that. Yeah, it's like fuck come up with something different contortion shit constant Think of something new and fresh. Yeah, it's too much of that contortion shit all the time far too much too much of like This self-harm type stuff if you're out there to get the humans and kill the humans Just go and kill them. Why are you wasting time? Hurting yourself eating all this glass and shit. It's just stupid. It's there for the sake of being gory and disgusting It's got nothing to do with the plot. It doesn't move anything forward. It's not scary No, so they're just simply going for the cringe factor Yeah, but that's fine if you just keep that to a minimum. Yeah, if you keep doing it It doesn't have an effect on right this movie also doesn't seem to commit to a tone It's too all over the place. It doesn't really take the ball and run with it like okay If you're gonna make a darker scarier less funny version of evil dead That's fine too all over the map that they tried to put a little bit of humor in there And when they did it just didn't fit because they're now trying to be too serious Yeah, and they also put it in at the wrong spot and same thing with the gore like if you're gonna go gore go fucking full bore and Nail us with it, but they almost like they held back a little bit as gory as this movie is They kind of held back with it And it's like if you're gonna commit to that gore just do it and do it 100% full-on the trailer fools you to think it's gonna be a big gore fest and it kind of is But you kind of come out disappointed thinking well, I was kind of expecting a bit more mr. Miyagi says Walk left side of the street safe right side of the street safe walk in the middle Get the squish just like grip. That's right. Yeah, and that's what I felt this movie was it tried to kind of Walk the line between all these things, but never doing any of them really good They've got themes too that they don't complete in the movie, right? Everything is sort of left hanging wasn't a great horror movie because it wasn't scary It wasn't a great gore fest movie because it wasn't gory enough It wasn't a schlocky fun horror movie because well, they didn't even try. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. What is it then? Yeah, it's just kind of there It just felt like a cookie cutter possession movie that you would find on Netflix just was scrolling You know the possession of single mom Yep, that's exactly what it was And that'll bring us to the beginning and the ending of this which we're not gonna spoil anything But we are gonna say that both Were useless you could have cut both out and just had the middle part. Yeah Good enough the beginning with those kids at the cabin don't need it Nope, the ending was completely ridiculous and took you out of any realism in the fucking movie Yeah, the woman comes down to the parking lot after shit Just hit the fan talking on her phone like who I didn't get much sleep last night because the thunder kept me up Well, what about the people screaming and yeah dying in the dead heights and the world is basically ending And you didn't notice. Yeah, like come on Just ridiculous in the beginning they're going for that punch right to hit you okay Here we go it didn't connect with the rest of the fucking movie was stand alone until the end but at that point who cares Yeah, and then the end didn't have anything to do with the rest of the movie either And it was meant to be that last punch, but you could have had that with the real Characters yeah not introduce a character that you never saw throughout the rest of the movie and the movie with that person You don't care about having been invested in so they shit the bed Yeah, like they totally shit the bed on that so evil dead rise trash or treasure You know what hold on I got to think about this for a second my vote is that it's trash I'm gonna have to vote trash too. Not that it's a horrible bad movie It just didn't do it yeah for me, and I'll probably never watch it again. Exactly. That's my sentiment, too I'll never watch it again. So trash it was kind of just there yeah movie was just there And I was actually bored throughout the movie there was parts of the movie I'm like fuck if I was streaming this right now and didn't have to pay for it Mm-hmm I would just turn it off to say that an evil dead movie is boring Yeah, it's absurd, but it was like and there was lots going on lots of action and gore But it was paced so poorly where it was boring it was paced so poorly and there was so much Repetitiveness a lot of repetitiveness and a lot of Dialogue that didn't need to be there to drag the whole thing down exactly we're sitting there The lights went up you know credits roll produced by Sam Raimi Bruce Campbell Robert Tappert Who cares so what yeah, that doesn't mean they actually had input on it Maybe they did but it just didn't work for us Yeah, yeah, and the fact that they praise the film well They have to because if they don't they're gonna get in shit and lose their career like Ghostbusters 2016 Dan Akra I'd super praising it. He knew it was garbage. Yeah You know came out years later and said that wasn't that good But you have to say you have to say that you know yeah, I sighed a lot of this movie, too Just our opinion don't go around calling us a bunch of what member berries were the fuck that means Because it's got nothing to do with that It just simply we don't think this movie worked as a horror movie or an evil dead movie. Yeah at all no So on that note until next time we will have to keep drinking