 All right, can everybody hear this? Yes. Okay, I'm so sorry. I got wicked busy up at the office and I left and I totally forgot about it. And I couldn't get in. I've been having weird problems with Zoom, so. Hold on one sec, everybody. All right, is that? How do I make these people participants? Theron, do you need us to call for help? Seems that there's an animal attacking you. An animal behind, oh, that's my practice. He's not currently screaming, so I think I'm okay. Amber, how do I make the attendees participants? Can do that. Actually, hold on one second. Yeah, it's, Zoom has been having problems for me today, so let me make you the co-host. Okay. All right, you should be able to do it now. I'll try. All right, promo actually. Okay. Weird, right? Yeah. Okay, everybody here. I only see six people. I guess the others are not on video. We're all panelists. Who are we missing from the official committee? Bennett. You're as Bennett. I'm wandering around my house looking for a suitable place to be without my children. All right, sorry, everybody. Welcome. Can Amber, can you make someone else also a host and they can share the screen with the agenda and stuff that I can- I, oh, all right, hold on. Gordon, do you have the agenda, Handy? What do I do? So why don't you make Gordon the co-host? Okay. Maybe I can do that. All right, I just did it. Okay, I'm gonna duck out for a second. Hi, Amber, thanks. Hi, I'm sorry, Alan. I got really, really busy at the office and I left and it slipped my mind. That's okay. It happens. All right. I have to get yourself over here. Yeah, I'll email it to you tomorrow. Okay. I will make Alan- Thanks, Amber. No problem. I'm gonna make Alan the big host and then I am going to continue driving. Zoom in and driving. All right, have a good meeting. Thanks, Amber. Hi, everybody. Thanks. Sarah has to leave in 10 minutes so we should probably jump in the agenda right to her issues. Gordon, can you post the agenda? Where Alan, can you? I'm gonna upload it in the chat. Is that what you mean? Share screen. Oh, sure, I can share screen. You see it? Yes. Yeah, great. It means I can't take minutes, though. Oh, so you're the wrong person for this. Maybe. Well, let's just look at the agenda real quick and... We should all have copies of it, so it's not... Yes, we all have copy. Well, yeah. I can upload it to... Oh, actually, I don't know if I can upload it to chat. Okay. Let's talk about the ordinance and the placards in five minutes quick. Sorry, I have to run. I have a night meeting for work. The placards are up. They're hung all around town. Go check them out. I took photos of them and I'm going to send them to Shoshana to put on the Facebook for a little treasure hunt or see if you find these spots around town just to get that on social media, increase awareness. I am drafting the template for next years because if we do plantings in town, even if they're small, we can highlight different things about those trees, but it'd be nice to have them in a high profile area and just get people thinking about trees and get a little bit more publicity for the tree committee and the work that we do. So those things are all great. And the... Let me see if I have it here. The significant tree ordinance has been updated. I went through all the comments, did a round of revisions. Major changes include changing the definition of a significant tree to really only be trees with a DBH of 20 inches or larger, just to simplify the initial definition and make it easier to understand and hopefully easier to pass as well. Hopefully it'll be a living document. So in the future, if there's changes that we want to make, that can be next steps, but I think for the purposes of getting this passed and getting an outline and something that can be approved, there it is. Keeping it pretty simple and straightforward to start with, it seems like a good idea. And there were a number of comments, talking about any confusion along that line. The second part was otherwise identified trees if no one on the shade tree committee thinks we have any particular trees in mind that we want to identify as significant that don't have a DBH of 20 inches or larger, we can take that out. There were some general... Any opinions about that? Any comments? Somebody said something I didn't hear. I was just asking if there are any opinions about that. I'm wondering if this is right. Yeah, I can't think of any trees. I noticed you had, I was getting emails saying you had edited things I had posted about. So I was glad you did that, Sarah. Maybe we should leave it out for simplicity unless someone has an idea for a tree. It does seem like it might open the door a little bit to more questions. Like, does that mean that the committee can go in and declare a tree? I don't know. I think it would really be applicable if we had old significant trees that weren't 20 inches or larger. But considering the ecological systems that we have here in Amherst, we don't have things on the coast that stay stunted and small even if they're significant or old. We don't have a lot of like cliff faces or outcroppings where you have a similar condition. So I really don't think it's particularly applicable to our particular climate ecosystem and the trees that we have here. So I think that'd be fine taking it out. And if something in particular comes up we could always try to do an addendum or something like that. So if there's no objections I think we'll take it out and keep it simple at this point. Yeah. Do you want me to do that now or do you want to do that later? Oh, no, you go ahead. Get in there. Okay, cool. Right on screen. Yeah. Great. Well, that's good. We'll have a fuller discussion. Actually, Bennett, you were nominated to review it for grammar. So at some point if you want to take that on before the next meeting and even though it's not finished yet. Great. One last thing on this. I'll resend the link just so everyone has it for a final round of review. Bennett can do an edit and then I think we're in a good spot. So last thing before we move off this there were some questions about seven just about like section seven as a penalty for removing the significant tree without approval. But I believe that was intended to be section six which is called violations which is the penalties for removing a tree without, you know, the violating it is removing a tree without approval. So if no one, if that makes sense to everyone, I think we can keep how do I locate significant trees on my property as section seven and maybe just add a little bit of clarifying language to section six about this. These are the penalties. Violation means you removed a tree without approval and these are the penalties. Sounds good. Everyone else? That's great to me. Yep. Okay, good. Thank you. I'm not gonna do that now. It looks like it'll take some thinking. Yeah, that's fine. I can get in there and do that. Great. So I'll just resend the link, make these couple updates, resend the link for anyone who wants to have another look over it and Bennett we can be in touch about doing just like a good text edit, making sure that everything's spelled correctly that it's all clear and easy to understand. And then I think we're ready to make a meeting with town council or we can, I don't know if anyone thinks we should go before planning or coordinate with them but we'll be ready for next steps at that point. So we can reach out and start moving this forward. That was great. Great. Do we have a sense of who it goes to first? Sarah, you're kind of dancing around it because I don't know any better than you do, but... Well, so town council is the one who has to approve it but I didn't know when we can talk about this if we want to coordinate with planning or zoning first. Obviously we'd want to make them aware of this but we don't necessarily need pre-approval from them. So that's just something that we can talk about and if anyone has any contacts or how we decide we want to go about it. And would a legal review happen after that? Like, would that be part of the town's process? I think so, but that's a good question. So maybe I can get in touch with town council and just see what they recommend. That can, I'll jump in there. So we're going to need to, you know, each department ultimately will end up looking at this and seeing if they have any concerns or how it interacts with other, you know, things that they have on the books. And then the town manager would take a look at it and then it would go to town council, the town lawyers, I should say. And then, you know, I think after it's been put through a pretty strict review, you would then go to the town council. That's my understanding, but. Okay. We're not there yet, but we're very close. Do you know a good person to contact for the first outreach effort? What I'll do is I'll take it to Guilford-Moring and we'll start with the department of public works and run it through the review there. And then once we've, you know, looked at it and determined how it's going to interact with all of it, our rules and regulations and how we could fit it into that, we then move it on to the next, kind of go to the next level, which might be planning. Okay, that sounds great. Okay. All right, I've got everyone. Sorry guys. Okay, one last thing. I think we should sort of roughly finalize it before we send it on though. I'm sorry, I just couldn't hear you. I think we should finalize it, you know, here before. So we may need one more month to meet again on it. Okay, that sounds good. I'll send out the link, make the updates. Then we can final review in next month. Great. And can you send me your hours for November and December? Yes. Good, thank you. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye, sir, take care. All right, so let's backtrack. First Gordon, are you able to take minutes? Yeah, I am, but it makes my screen not really very shareable because I'm typing right here. All right, so get rid of that then, don't worry about it. I just want to keep track if we get new participants. Okay. Yeah, so all right. Let's start off back at the beginning. Welcome and we have Bruce Griffin visiting and maybe interest in the committee. Usually we have everyone give a little talk about why they're here. So I'll let you do that if you don't mind, Bruce. Well, I've been interested in the shade tree committee for quite a few years. I was on the conservation commission before and I within the last month or two, I guess I put in, I filled out one of the sheets for at town hall and then I got an invitation to this Zoom meeting. So here I am just listening in. Good. Welcome. I'm sorry, I missed the ending cut out. Well, I just said that I had your invitation to show up for this meeting. So here I am. I haven't had any other communication with the committee in the last few months. And then he said he was going to stage a coup, Henry. You missed that part. Terrible internet that I missed the end again because I got cut out. Sorry. You've been deposed. Gina, I see you have your hand up, but Bruce, did you have, did I miss something important at the end? I don't think so. I'm just listening in at the moment. I was informed that the shade tree committee was looking for members. So I filled out a form at town hall and then I didn't hear anything more until I got the invitation to this meeting. Okay. It's supposed to be, someone at town hall is supposed to be inviting everyone to interview with the town manager. And I got possible dates when that would happen. And then I didn't hear back and Alan knew. Okay. Well, I'm still interested and I'll stand by. Okay. Alan, did you hear? You're cutting out. I heard, yes. I heard. So what I said was we got a couple of date possibilities and then I didn't hear back. Have you heard back? I have not. No, not from town hall. Okay. I'll look into that, Bruce, soon. Okay. Thank you. Gina. Hi. Thanks, Henry. Hi, everyone. I just want to let you know that Marty Jameson, whom some of you might remember, came with me to the last planting. She tried to join, but we were having all of this problem. So she kind of figured it wasn't happening, but she is interested. Thank you. Good. Thanks. All right. So what's on the agenda? I'm going to bring up my own agenda somewhere here. Okay. All right. There's no hearings. Any other announcements or comments? Oh yeah. Do we want to do another trivia night tomorrow? Oh, yes. It's on my calendar. Yeah. I'd love to join. Do we have to sign up individually or are you signed us up? I'll sign us up as a team and then you guys can PayPal me the amount. Hopefully we can get a fourth person. Do we got a fourth? It's fun. It's fun. Turn it over to the Hitchcock Center. Is Julian here? He was talking about maybe. We were tied for the first place. Julian, did you want to join? Yeah. I have a weekly obligation on that night. Oh, okay. Every time. So I checked that out. Sorry about that guy. Hey, sorry, Julian. I didn't need to talk of you. I'm not joining, but what is it? I mean, I understand what trivia is. Yeah. The Hitchcock Center has like a trivia night thing. I guess they've been doing it monthly. We just started last month. We did it. And essentially, like each team goes to a breakout room and discusses their answers to a series of questions. And then they bring them back and we go over the answers and it's kind of fun. It goes on for, I don't know, like 40 minutes or something. It wasn't that long. It felt like it went by really fast. Longer than that, an hour and a half. Was it? In two sets. Yeah. Well, it flew by in my mind. It seems like last time. But there's a lot of different people from the community. We were tied for first and then, yeah. Yeah, and then. We were tied for first against another team and then the runoff question, they won. So, I'm surprised. Do you remember what the runoff question that we lost on it was? I don't remember. I don't. Gordon? No, I remember we, there were a couple, I remember a couple that we didn't get, but I remember, I don't remember which was the runoff. Otherwise we did really good. Yeah. And they let us do an announcement during the, during the event about how awesome the public statutory committee is. It was about the upcoming planting. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to approval of the minutes. We still have three months behind here. Have you guys read the September, October and November minutes? I read September and October, but not November comments. At least I don't think I did. All right. Can we approve the minutes? Oops. From all three months or been it? Shashana. What if we do it month by month? Cause I feel like I shouldn't put a motion if I haven't read the November ones. Can we approve the September and October minutes? I moved to approve the September minutes. Okay. Thumbs up. All right. So those are approved and we'll hold the November minutes till next month and we'll do that with the December minutes. But really I do send them out right away wanting to get comments back as soon as possible. And then I want us to have already read them and know that they're good. And, you know, we've corrected any errors. And then we can just- Oh, well, maybe I did read them if you sent them right after. Cause I feel like, I feel like normally things get sent right before the meeting. And so then I can't, if I do it like a month ago, I can't remember that I did it. Well, maybe I did. Let's hold off on November, but I will send them out again and request that everyone gives me a response right away. Okay. All right. So like, yeah. Then we'll know, then we'll know. And then we don't have to spend time at the meetings dealing with that. All right. Do you all want to send me your volunteer hours? Bruce, we collect- Oh, and Alan, don't we have to do the- Free City USA application. Yeah. Need all your letter, discussing your accomplishments for the past year. Okay. I'll work on that right away. We apply every to be a tree city, USA city, which we've been for 30 years or so. And one of the things we do is keep track of all the volunteer hours and that goes into the application. So I'll put you all down for one or two hours, depending on how long the meeting goes tonight. Should I include the time that we spent doing the trivia thing because that was publicity for us? I would think so. Sure. If you want. Yeah. You could do that. Yeah. All right. Good. Thank you. Let me look at the chair's report. I have to go get a piece of paper with some information. I'll be right back. Bruce, this is the time for the coup. I don't know why that kept on. I'm not sure the time is ripe. Or what? Nothing. Something. Okay. Hold on, it looks okay. Okay, we're back. Let's see. This Sunday's, past Sunday's New York Times had, and the magazine had a great article on trees and mycorrhizia and more stuff that largely most of us know, but it was good that it was getting publicity. If you get a chance to see the Sunday New York Times magazine, it's worth reading. So, Shauna, did you put that on Facebook? I'm sorry, I apologize for interrupting. Did you put that on Facebook? I did not. I did not put anything on the New York Times. I'm not asking it on you. I'm asking because I use Facebook as my cheat when I have to put the newsletter together. So, because it's been great. So that's why I ask. Thank you. Yeah, I'm actually looking for it right now. I'm sure I can. Okay, great. And then did I need your November hours and December hours? Yes. And who else can give me? Yeah, everyone else send me the December hours. Yes. Oh, Marion and Julian, I need your November hours too. Is Marion still here? Yes, she's still here. Okay. All right. What else on the agenda? Let me close that. Tree Wardens report on. I don't know much to talk about. We did pick up six very nice pin oak trees from Wandslake Nursery. They donated it to the town. And they healed in down at Ruckston. They said I could pick up more. I just haven't had a chance to get back there to pick up more trees. Let's see. Not a lot going on. We had the vision had a brush with COVID and just about everybody went into quarantine. Everyone's fine and everyone's back. But we had a greatly reduced staffing for almost two weeks, so we're back up. Yeah, no tree hearings on the foreseeable future. We're doing the removals at the library in North Amherst for the new addition going on it. So that'll be done soon. That's about it. Not a lot going on to talk about. Just regular tree work. Thank you. And Sarah's dropped off the meeting, so we won't get a treasurer's report. Shashana. Yep. You have the card stock, right? The cards, I mean. The cards? The cards with the pictures of the trees that say Amherst Public Shaitree Committee didn't non-adrop enough for you. I remember thinking I needed to get them to Sarah, but I don't know if they're actually we ever met, so I'll check. Okay. We'll find that out soon. I probably do still have them. Because we need to send a thank you note to Wanzik. Okay. I'll also pass along our newsletter to Wanzik to note that we acknowledge them in the newsletter and to thank them again. So it's not as if it hasn't gone. We should do that, but I've been in touch with them to thank them too, so just know that. Yeah, I think a thank you would be nice also to thank your card. Yeah, like this here? Yeah. Do you want to send that out? Sure. Check in with Bennett about the contact and stuff like that. Okay. Thank you. All right. Oh, also, yeah, those six pin oaks, I've met with the people from the brook and they're definitely interested in the planting in the spring. And I'm still waiting to hear from the boulders whether that will happen. But we're moving along on that. All right. Presentations and discussions. Second Saturday planting, so next year, we have definitely the brook and forget what else we had, another one who's in the minutes, but the brain's not running. I don't know. Right, I have the minutes here somewhere. Glendale Road and Mill Lane and the brook so far. And we got an email from somebody who lives on Pondview Drive. There's a natural area called Markerit's Pond and the trees along the street in front of it died and she wants us to replace. So they're close, they're very close to Glendale Road. I thought when we do the Glendale planting, we can add those in there. Does that make sense, Alan? Sorry. The spring, spring planting. Spring planting, Glendale, we can add in a few trees that the entrance to Markerit's Pond's conservation area. Yeah, I mean, we just need to run that through the conservation department if they want to do plantings there and see what fits with them. No, I think these are on the street though, along the street at the end. My understanding was, because right away there, isn't that wide? I think it's actually along the conservation area. So we just, we'd want to, yeah, I need to meet with them and see where they're talking about and then coordinate with the conservation department if, in fact, they want to do a planting there, so. Okay, no problem. You check on that? Yes. Great, thanks. All right. I'm sorry, which location was that? Say it again. Sorry, which location was that? The Brook or? No, that's the Glendale Road. Glendale Road, okay, thanks. Yeah. That was Pondview, wasn't it? Pondview Drive? Yes. Okay, Markert Recreation Area. Yes. All right. Any other locations that people come up with? Keep your eyes out, Bruce, Gina, Marion. If you see other locations where we could put in a bunch of trees, especially, you know, very public locations, that'd be great to get that on the list. I have a question. There's at least one spot that I saw that's like in front of, like right on Pleasant Street, in front of like one of the bars that's like a dirt patch right now, you know, how they have like the vacant spot. It's not sidewalk, there's like the dirt patch that's like as big as the square of a sidewalk. There's one of those that feels like it could have a tree. This is downtown? North Pleasant, East Pleasant? North Pleasant. Over by Cross Machinic Park, or where are you talking about? No, it's like right in like the thick of it all. It's like, it's like in, I don't want to say like right in front of Judy's, but maybe like in front of that typewriter shop. Oh, over there, yes. One of the empty, we have several empty tree pits there that we need to... Oh, is that what it's called? A tree pit? I wasn't sure what the actual word was. Tree prison. Tree pit. I was wondering... Talked about the trees, talked about the placards, T-shirts. Have they come in? I have... Sorry, I didn't... I haven't gotten any like word from that they were paid yet. I forget that would come from town, right? Yeah, the paperwork has been processed, so they probably have received notice of payment, but we should just check again, I guess if you wanna check your contact. Okay, okay, I'll call them tomorrow. Thank you. I know there's gonna be work done at the Pomory Village Center where 116 and Pomory Lane connect. Is there gonna be room included for trees in that project or not? I have not seen the design light for that yet. I don't know if we actually have a design for it, you know, engineer drawing of that new intersection, but I'll look into it. Thank you. Where is that? West Street and Pomory Lane, the four-way intersection there where the stop lights is getting redesigned. Yeah. Okay, good. Anything new on the website? Have you done anything, Bennett? You're muted. Yeah, I've got it all figured out. I do have something to show you and I'm gonna share my screen. We find the... I have so many windows open, I'm sorry. Okay. Have you talked to the IT people? That's part of the... That is a problem. No, I haven't heard about... He mailed them several times and I haven't heard back and, you know, part of me says that I can only imagine what IT and COVID in municipal government looks like right now. So, which doesn't change their need to do something, but I haven't pressed it in about a month, so I'll go back to them again, see if I can shake out a response. I haven't even gotten a response. So, that said, I will say, you know, kind of thinking about how this, kind of anticipating how this project might go, I can't imagine walking into a meeting. Well, I can't imagine walking into a meeting at all of these days, but if we were to walk into a meeting, you know, I think that my guess is that the town would want, rather than walk in and say, I want to completely rethink everything on our page and help me, you know, I generate new ideas and brainstorm. I think they're probably gonna be more in the mode of how can fit what you want to do into the current template, which, you know, may not be what we want to do. It is how I started. And I wanted to, I'll send this out after the meeting. It's not very complicated, but I felt like it would help to have some conversation about it first. And as I show you this also consider, I don't know how to, you know, maybe this is a, this is probably worth a two or three person subcommittee. So we don't, you know, as this will require more of these types of conversations, which probably aren't useful for the entire group until we have something to share, or I can just do it myself with your guidance, but, but, so I looked at the current landing page for the group and I really gave some thought to this, you know, like right now this is, this is if you're looking at a screen grab of the current site. And really the thing for us to change, to really think about in terms of navigation is, you know, what fits in our, what menu items we want to have, without going through each one of these, I think some of them are like, for example, I think I'm remembering right, Alan, that request a tree is something that for months or maybe a year you've wanted to get rid of because we're not really doing that anymore. It isn't, we don't have a bounty of trees where people can just request and get one. So things like that kind of took into consideration. And when I send this out, it's just a two page PowerPoint, but it helps to kind of toggle in between these two. I've updated these menu items here. And, you know, it's not very complicated, but it doesn't help if I'm just gonna keep, you know, for me to keep toggling between slide to slide, it's probably not very helpful either, but it's an arrangement of, you know, this is the type of content I think that we should have and it fits in the exact same number of slots, which is that is on. And I think the first step is for us to figure out, are these the right categories? And if they are, then, you know, that's probably, you know, I'm not a web designer, but I think that that's, you know, as long as we're not changing that, like, if there are six navigation tabs that we wanted to put 12 in, that will probably be a big deal. But if there's six navigation tabs and we're saying, we just wanna update the six and replace and keep six, probably a lot easier. So I wanted to do that. I also wanna put, I think that probably the best thing that we can have here is our some sort of mission statement. Doesn't have to be over-engineered, but something that tells, you know, I love this quote actually, but I don't, I think that we need to start with exactly who we are and why we exist. And, you know, things like that, but really right now, the menu is the thing that I want you all to look out for and think about what's missing. Is there anything here that's wrong? Just if you're squinting at your screen, I can tell you, because there's only six, that the tabs are who we are and how to reach us, how you can help. So I think that for me, I think engaging people on a volunteer basis because people who come, people who take the time to come to this page are interested trees. They, you know, they probably are predisposed to help to be volunteers and we should encourage that. There's also upcoming events, which of course is, you know, especially in the spring, summer and fall seasons, important for us, make a donation. I, that's another that's questionable. I think we should have that front and center. I think that soliciting donations is not our main reason for being, but it's not something we should avoid either or we should at least make it easy for people to do if they want to do it. FAQs, I think is drawing from existing, I think we already have some of that and become a member which would help clarify the process for folks like Bruce, just we can always point to that. So that's what I'm trying, that's kind of my kind of going in thoughts about this and I would, like I said, I'll send this short piece out to everyone after the call and I guess maybe we should bundle it, Henry, if you've got, rather than all of us sending out different things, maybe should I send this to you and you send it out along with the minutes and anything else that we need to send or how do you, I'm open to whatever you wanna do, whatever's easiest. No, I think send it separately. Okay. The minutes I want, you know, keep separate particularly in meetings. Yeah, this is great, Ben, this is a really good start. I'm happy to meet with you. Does anybody else wanna join us for that? It's gonna be fascinating. Hey, this is Gina, let me just add one thing. I do like the quote and I would like to have a quote somewhere. Yeah. You know, without, I know this is heresy and without you all thinking that I have some severe character flaw, I don't like mission statements. I mean, okay, Bennett, I see why we should perhaps have one but let's make sure there's also this quote along with it. Yeah, no, it's not, this is not a corporate, you know, this isn't a corporate entity. We should, you know, we should, I have no need to get rid of that quote. I like it. And there are probably other ones that we should look at too, but, but, you know, as soon as you get there, what is this thing? You know, what is this group? No, it's not that complicated. Yeah, yeah. No character flaw here, okay? I've made a note on your file. It's great, thank you. Any other kind of obvious red herrings, kind of thinking of, you know, Allen, if there's something, if you're like, geez, you know, make a donation is a huge, that's something that we don't, you know, we don't have the infrastructure to support it. We don't really need it, you know, anything like that that's obvious, let's just strike it, or that's missing once I had it. So, I think it would be great if we had like a donate button where you, you know, you press the button and then they can just, you know, PayPal the money to us directly. Yep. I think that would make it a lot more, like easy, like for people to do it. Because I don't think anyone's gonna write us a check and mail it and go through all those hoops, you know, just to give us their money. We just need to make sure, cause it is, you know, this goes in through the town clerk's office, essentially all transactions, you know, go through that. And we would need to look on the back end to see how that is done. You know, it's a good idea. I just, you know, the town takes in payment. You know, the reality of the town bureaucracy. Yeah, I guess Holly would have to be contacted on how to actually make that happen. You wanna look into that, Shoshana? Okay. Yeah, that's a great idea. At the same time, I assume that this is something that if I can ever get a hold of somebody in IT over there, this is probably something they've encountered before for some other reason too. So that's an adamant, having luck getting through to them. So... Yeah, the best thing, you know, they're swapped. I'm sure they are. And they do have a work request system. I think you can like email it to them or something. And they're actually, they do create a work ticket and they do track it. And sometimes calling sometimes won't get you very far, but the work tickets do. Yeah, I don't think that I missed that. I mean, I don't think I saw it and avoided it. So I'll have to look for it and make sure that that would be ideal. Thank you, Alan. Great. Anything else, Bennett? That's it. Thank you. So thank you so much. Stop sharing. Anything else new on the Facebook site, Shauna? I've just been like, you know, posting stuff, that tree related things that I find. Okay, good. All right. Fundraising and, well, we talked about it briefly. And also I would really like us to get it as a line item for the town that every year with so much money goes into the tree fond either through Alan's budget or our budget. So I don't know how to make that happen. And maybe we don't need to do that tonight, but something we should be thinking about and working towards. Maybe go to the town council and say, you know, the trees are an important resource. They, you know, there are infrastructure that actually pays dividends every year instead of costing more money. And we need that town to step up and support that. It doesn't have to be huge amount. It can be a small amount, but just some line item that then later we can say, gee, we need more money in that, but to get it started as a line item, it'd be great. Yeah. Maybe I'll contact my, go ahead. I think we're actually going to the same place. I was going to say that the one councilor who has joined several of our meetings and come to some of our planes, is Kathy Shane, who I think is your rep. That might be a place to start and also given her kind of ongoing advocacy for environmental issues, Darcy is a natural, just to kind of under, just to have the conversation and understand how, you know, how to move this ahead. Those are two obvious candidates. Does anybody know Darcy personally? I do not. None of us? I know your people. I'll contact Kathy at least. And maybe I'll contact Darcy too, but I don't have a personal relationship with her. All right, good. All right. Any other fundraising ideas? Julian, you're going to ask all you rich friends and relatives to donate. Anything else? Is there any hearings coming up at all? I haven't heard of anything. You've got some road projects coming up in the spring. Henry Street, Bridge Street, short section of Pine Street, but we're just doing mostly crown lifting and taking down dead and decayed trees. Removals at this point in time have been identified. All right. Okay, over my list. That's mostly the stuff that I have. Apologize again that it was such a rough start. And is Bruce still here? Did he leave? I am. Oh, there you are. Great, okay. Here. And Marian, are you still there? Yep, she's there. Okay. Just hiding from us. So anybody have any other comments? There you are. Yeah. All right. So let's end the meeting for now. Yeah. And we'll see you in January, second Tuesday again. I want to, does this time work for everybody? I want to check with Sarah again, cause she missed last month and had to leave early this month. So this is time work for everybody that's here. Yeah. Okay. That can be a conversation the next month if Sarah needs to change it, otherwise we'll keep it. All right. Everyone be well. Have a new year and we'll see you in January. Have a new year, everybody. Bye. Thanks, everybody. And don't forget to send me your hours. Yes, my hours. I'll just be here. Thanks for coming, Bruce. My pleasure. It was interesting. Good.