 We're joined here now live at TAM 2012 with Rachel Dunlop aka dr. Rachel all the way from Australia. How are you? Hi Chris good pretty good actually now How long of a trip is this for you guys? It's 13 hours from Sydney to LA and then about another 45 minutes to Vegas But all up it comes around 22 hours with you know layovers and customs and all that sort of stuff And how many days are you Stateside? Seven yeah, so it's not bad. I'll probably get over my jet lag as I leave the country So how many times has this been for you? Well, how many times in the US or should I ask and then we'll get into the This is my third US TAM. Yeah, do you ever get used to that much traveling? Yes, because I come to the States two or three times a year, so I'm kind of used to it now Yeah, that's not too bad now a couple years ago I just want to plug this for a second year because this is really cool. You gave a little Twitter smack down to Mike Adams and Mercola tell us a little bit about what happened there That's really it's really funny because that happened in 2010 when I won the shorty award for health And it just resurfaced in fact last week in Australia because the anti-vaxxers Found that article that Mike Adams wrote the one about what skeptics really believe Which was taken down beautifully by Steve novella David Gorsky and Phil plate. They're pretty good at that Yeah, well, actually there are a lot of people that had a how to go at taking the article down But the one that David Gorsky did was fantastic It was like a burning straw man in a field of burning straw man of stupid in a black hole of stupid or something I don't know if you remember that in fact. It was brought up in a workshop again on Thursday But yeah, basically there's a competition called the shorties which is for the best short content on Twitter and I won the category in health in 2010 but prior to me winning Mike Adams and Joseph McCollough were sort of Jostling for the lead and Mike Adams got disqualified as a result of People setting up new Twitter accounts just to vote for him which was explicitly against the rules Go figure Mike Adams breaking the rules. Well, you know, I mean actually to be fair It was his probably his fans and broke the rules But but you know go figure the alt-med crowd not understanding the rules. That's the issue I think I mean it's not difficult to understand the rules Yeah, so he got disqualified and he sort of threw his toys out of the pram as we say and really had a huge tantrum and Wrote about four blog posts about how evil skeptics were which was hilarious at the time So now this is your third Tam in the States, but you also did Tam Oz and Was that difficult to put together at all? No, I think we did I reckon we did that in an afternoon It was pretty simple No, we organized Tam Australia, which was in 2010 and that was huge like And not only that but you can get the entire Tam Australia on DVD. Can people buy I know you're selling them right here at your table Let's Right here every single talk except for one because of copyright something or another, right? You don't know what goes on behind the scenes until you've organized your own conference And the fact that it's running smoothly here is an indication that there are wheels churning all over the place behind The scenes in this casino because it's a massive amount of work to organize a conference like this Now if somebody wants to get those DVDs, can they buy them online? Yes, you can go to skeptics.com.au and go to our shop and you can buy them online If you're at Tam you can buy them here, but obviously you're not And we can hear you every week on the skeptic zone, right most weeks Yeah, yeah, I've been a little bit busy with work lately, but yes skeptic zone TV for the skeptic zone podcast Great. We'll enjoy the rest of Tam. Thank you very much for joining us here You