 Anybody else to kind of show me the ropes? Write him down. I'll make that. He does extremely well. Well, thank you. I'm not sure. When I click on it, I'm like, Brian, he's a good chair. And he keeps things on track. Nobody else chimes in, you know? They want it from him tomorrow. He grew up a lot across the road here. So, did you hear from Armie? I don't know if Paul's in relation to this. Well, it's somewhere in it, it may be. My way. I love it. Whenever they have a family, it's great having you. You want it. Really? Near Lavec. Let's be on the side, all right? Yeah. I like little ones. More headhills. Nice. Well, it can go on there. No, it can go on. Not too hot. I can walk. Mm-hmm. Yes. Mm-hmm. Thank you. I didn't know anything about that. Did you? Oh, it's OK. I didn't get an email. Mr. Keychin emailed us and Mr. Busby. All right. Shoot him. He didn't know. So, he might not be here then. Good afternoon. Welcome to the Durham Planning Commission. The members of the Durham Planning Commission have been appointed by the city council and the county board of commissioners as an advisory board to the elected officials. You should know that the elected officials have the final say on any issue before us tonight. If you wish to speak on an agenda item tonight, please go to the table to my left and sign up to speak. For those of you who wish to speak, please state your name and your address. Clearly, when you come to the podium, please speak clearly and into the microphone. Each side, those speaking in favor of an item and those speaking in opposition to an item will have 10 minutes to present each side. The time will be divided among all persons wishing to speak. Finally, all motions are stated in the affirmative. So, if a motion fails or ties, the recommendation is for denial. Thank you, and may I have the roll call, please? Commissioner Alturk? Here. Commissioner Johnson? Present. Commissioner Ghosh? Currently absent. Commissioner Bryan? Present. Commissioner Satterfield? Here. Commissioner Durkin? Present. Vice Chair Hyman? Present. Commissioner Busby is excused. Commissioner Miller? Present. Commissioner Ketchin is also excused. Commissioner Hornbuckle? Present. Commissioner Van? Present. Commissioner Gibbs? Present. And Commissioner Williams? Present. Thank you. May I have a motion, please, to excuse commissioners Busby and Kitchum? So moved. Second. It has been moved and properly seconded that commissioner Busby and Kitchum be excused from tonight's meeting. All in favor, let it be known by the usual sign of aye. Aye. All opposed. Thank you. Madam Chair, unless it's out of order, I would also like to make a motion that we excuse Commission Member Ghosh. I note that this is a big week for him, and he is probably involved in some sort of opening up jollity, and it slipped his mind to ask for an excused absence. So I move that we excuse Commission Member Ghosh from attendance at this meeting. Second. It has been moved and properly seconded that commissioner Neil Ghosh also be excused from tonight's meeting. All in favor of this motion, let it be known by the usual. Opposed. Opposed. And there he is. Opposed. I withdraw my second. Thank you. We withdraw, and here is Mr. Commissioner Ghosh. Thank you. We're about to excuse you. Sorry for my tardiness. Traffic on 147. Big much. Thank you. The next item, approval of minutes and consistency statements from the June 12, 2018 meeting. Madam Chair, I move approval of the minutes and consistency statements as presented. Second. Second. Motion by commissioner Brian, second by commissioner Miller that we approve the minutes and consistency statements for the June 12, 2018 meeting as presented. All in favor of this motion, let it be known by the usual sign of aye. Aye. All opposed. Thank you. Are there any adjustments to the agenda? Madam Chair, I would like to move that we move item number 11a up to be immediately after adjustments to the agenda. Second. It has been moved and properly seconded by commissioner Brian and commissioner Miller that we move item under new business up to immediately following adjustments to the agenda. All in favor of this action, let it be known by the usual sign of aye. Aye. Opposed. And so moved. Good evening. Planning staff was going to recommend the same adjustment. So thank you, Mr. Brighton. Grace Smith with the city planning city county planning department. The only announced, well, when I don't have any adjustments, but the only thing I need to announce is that all the legal requirements were carried out in accordance with state and local ordinance and affidavits for such your own file in the planning department and also welcome our new member, Ms. Darkin. If you haven't had a chance, you can catch up with her after the meeting, but just wanted to let you know that she is here and she came in for our new commissioner orientation. So we got to spend a little time with her and welcome her to the group. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. So we have approved the adjustments to the agenda. So I have an item to be presented at this time. I'm going to ask outgoing commissioner David Harris to join me at this time while I read a resolution in appreciation of Mr. David Harris. Whereas Mr. David Harris was a member of the Durham Planning Commission from November 1, 2010 through June 30, 2018 and whereas the Durham Planning Commission and the citizens of the city and county of Durham have benefited from the dedicated efforts that he displayed while serving as a member of the Durham Planning Commission and whereas this commission desires to express its appreciation for the public of a job well done now therefore be resolved by the Durham Planning Commission one that the commission does hereby express its sincere appreciation for the service rendered by Mr. Harris to the citizens of this community to that the clerk for the commission is hereby directed to spread this resolution in its entirety upon the official minutes of this commission and this resolution is hereby presented to Mr. Harris as a token of the high esteem held for him. Adopted this 10th day of July 2010 Elaine Hyman vice chair. I'd like to give commissioner Harris an opportunity to speak and I also will give the rest of our commissioners briefly an opportunity to say a few words. Thank you. Thank you chair Hyman. Let me first express my appreciation for all of you commissioners and the staff for the education you've given me over these past 10 years. It has been truly gratified and experienced to have worked with you Commissioner Bryant told me to make my comments brief. So thank you so much. See ya. Hold on while we have a few brief comments from any commissioners who would like to speak at this time. I recognize Commissioner Satterfield. I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed being your neighbor and appreciate you sort of mentoring me over the last year since I first came on the commission. Thank you. Commissioner Miller. I wanted to point out that when I came on the commission they seated me next to David in hopes that he could keep me under control. I'm sorry it didn't work but that after a few months they moved David down a couple of seats and so everything was fine after that. David thank you for your service. It's remarkable services. I was surprised that it was only 2010 to 2018. To me it seemed like it was a lot longer. I hope that this is just a brief hiatus and that in time one of our boards will send you back to the commission where the public will benefit from your knowledgeable service. Thank you. Commissioner Gibbs. David I've already expressed my gratitude to you and my thoughts which I won't go over again except to say that I do for me I do appreciate the learning experience, your mentorship and I especially like the way you ran the chairmanship. It was a real good change and we are following up from your time on through the chairmanship today. But thank you so much. Any other commissioners? Commissioner Gosh. Thank you. Chair Harris. When I got on the planning commission you were the chair of the planning commission and I think you ran a great meeting. I also wanted to say that I really appreciate you staying on the planning commission and continuing your service to the community gracefully even though you were no longer the chair I don't really know what that transition is like at all but I appreciate that you did so gracefully as well. Any other commissioners? Commissioner Brine. David I just want to say thank you for your service. Thank you. Thank you commissioners and thank you Mr. Harris. It has been an absolute pleasure. Madam chair if it's appropriate at this time I'd like to move the resolution that you read. Second. It has moved and second that we approve the resolution as presented all in favor of this resolution. Thank you. Please. Please. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to pass the general sign of I. Thank you. The next item on our agenda since we have none listed other than the public hearing for zoning map changes we're ready for the staff report. Good evening. I'm Jamie son Yak with the planning department. storage. First off, before I get to the presentation, I just wanted to point out there were two typos in the staff report, both dealing with attachment A, which have been corrected. The applicant for this case is Pam Porter from Tony Tate. The site is two properties, 750 and 804 Junction Road. The property is currently located within, or one piece is located within the city jurisdiction and the other piece is pending annexation. The rezoning request is industrial light with a development plan. The site is 7.13 acres and is currently located within the industrial farm and there's no change to that. The proposal is rezoning to allow the expansion of the existing self-storage facility and as I mentioned, there is an associated annexation petition associated with one of the properties. This is the aerial map and the subject site is shown in red. It is the two properties on the east side of Junction Road just south of the intersection with Cheek Road. The site is located within the suburban tier and it is located within the Neuse River Basin. 804 Junction Road is 6.12 acres in size and it contains the existing triple A self-storage facility and it's shown in the top pictures on this slide. To the rear of the property is a mature pine and hardwood forest and there's a stream running along the eastern property boundary. The other property which is 750 Junction Road is 1.0 on acres inside size and it is heavily wooded. As shown in some of the other pictures that are included here and in the staff report, this portion of Junction Road is a mix of residential light industrial and auto related uses. There is a freight rail line running parallel along the west side of Junction Road and there are some light industrial uses, a solar facility opposite the tracks shown here. On the north side of the self-storage facility is a house of worship. There are also auto related uses on the north side and in the southwest portion along Junction Road there are various residential neighborhoods. This is the site context map. On the left is the existing zoning and on the right is the proposed zoning. So as you can see the property which is highlighted in red on the left portion of the rear portion of the site is RS 20, the front portion is industrial light and the applicant is requesting a change to the rear portion to IL with a development plan. The future land use map also highlights the property in red and the current designation is industrial which is consistent with the rezoning request. This slide shows the proposed conditions or the development plan and I just wanted to highlight a couple of things. The proposal indicates a maximum impervious coverage of 70% tree preservation requirement of 10% and the map also highlights the minimum street yards side yards and rear yards for the property. You can see to the most eastern portion of the property that there is a riparian buffer which is sort of highlighted in gray that is 100 foot buffer as well as a 10 foot no build. Summary of key committed elements, the development plan commits to self storage facility as a use. The plan also shows the site access points, the parking and building envelopes and the project boundary buffers as well as the design commitments relative to the building type, roof materials and architectural features. Relative to the comprehensive plan and its policies, the future land use designation as I stated previously is industrial so this application is consistent with that and relative to the three other policies that are highlighted, continuous development, infrastructure, capacity and transition to nonresidential uses. Staff lines at this application is consistent with those as well. Staff determines that this request is consistent with the comprehensive plan and all other applicable policies and ordinances and I will be happy to answer any questions that you have. Thank you. We're going to open the public hearing. I do have two individuals who have signed up to speak for Pam Porter and we can speak in this order, Pam Porter and Robert Kapp. Good evening members of the commission. My name is Pam Porter, 5011 South Park Drive. I'm the landscape architect on this project. We prepared the development plan in our office. As Jamie mentioned when she just gave her presentation, the front part is already zoned IL. The back part is that residential zoning and this is just an effort to clean it up to allow for the expansion of the self storage facility. I'll answer any questions that you may have regarding the plan and thank you for your consideration of our project. Thank you. Robert Kapp? Yeah, Rob Kapp is the owner. He's also here to answer questions too. Okay, he would not like to speak at this time? Not unless you have any questions for him. Well, once we close the public hearing, I'm going to give our commissioners an opportunity to ask questions. Okay, perfect. So he would not like to make a presentation at this time. Then I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and then see if our commissioners have questions. Okay. All right, thank you. Do I have commissioners who would like to speak on this issue? To my right, I'll look. To my left, Commissioner Miller. I just had a question for staff. There are a couple of questions. What's the maximum height allowed in the IL zone? I don't believe it's 50, but I'm going to double check. Okay, thanks. And the other question I have is actually for the developer. No, let me ask. I have a question for staff. No, you come on. Make it go fast. So right now, when I was out there, what you have are kind of the traditional old-style, low-level metal buildings. Correct. And when you expand, it sounds like you might be going into a multi-story facility with a tower. Right. Right now, there's some preliminary sketches that are in development. Nothing's been finalized yet because we're just at the rezoning stage. But the plan is to have one of the corners of the building, a tower that's slightly taller that will be more decorative. But still, will your storage still be at ground level? Or are you contemplating a multi-story storage? Correct. I believe it's still one story. All ground level. All ground level. Yes, sir. And have you considered putting in a commitment to that effect? And my concern here is that although this will simplify the zoning boundary that's out there between residential and non-residential uses, there still will be a substantial residential boundary. This is a fairly narrow piece of property. You've narrowed the buffers down to 22 and a half feet. And I have a question about that that I'll direct to staff. But if you have a multi-story facility in there, you're going to be tower over your buffer. And I'm just concerned that you're going to have not be a very good transition from the residential land, which is to the east and to the south. Sure. Are we comfortable with making that commitment? Rob's going to come up and talk about that. Good evening. My name is Robert Cobb, 3805 South Smith Hill Road. I just want to clarify, there's multi-level, there's bi-level, single-story. The one parcel that's being annexed, it's a very sharp, sharp drop-off. So it was, by definition, it's bi-level. So on the street, it's one story. And down below, you enter below, there's no elevators to go between the two floors. But that could be interpreted as a two-story building. It's like a walkout basement. I certainly understand. But I can absolutely commit to that'll be the only building that will be like that. And all the other buildings will be single-story. Does that answer your question? It does answer my question. I'm concerned to whether or not I'm giving the staff EBGBs about a proffer to that effect. While I distracted them by flipping through the code. So Jamie Sanyak with the planning department. So I guess what I was hearing was some discussion relative to your concern about number of stories. And I missed what the applicant said. I was just clarifying the type of structure. We refer to it as a bi-level. It's built into a hillside. So from Junction Road, it will be one story. If you drive into the property, it's a very steep drop-off. And around back, you'll drive into the lower level. But if you're at ground level inside a facility, that is two stories in the back. But there are no elevators or anything. And so if he made a proffer that there wouldn't be any storage buildings taller than two levels, would you require a delay to consider that? I don't know enough about his business to suggest what that would be. But I'm comfortable with two stories that nothing will be taller than two stories. With the exception of perhaps the decorative tower. Staff would be comfortable with that language limiting the height to two stories. And so would I. If that's the applicant's purview. And so looking at the way they have described the buffer and sheet two of their development plan, it's a 22.5 reduced buffer. Is that a commitment or do they have a buffer options the way it's written? No, the reference to the buffer reduction is under section 9.45 B. I'm just looking at the sheet in here and it shows that 22.5 wide opacity reduced boundary buffer. Is that a commitment or do they still have their buffer options? They still have the buffer options. It's not a commitment because they're not going above and beyond what the ordinance allows for. The ordinance does allow under that section a buffer reduction up to 25%. And that's it. And but if they do that, they're going to have to put a wall or a berm in there. That's correct. All right. Those are my questions. Thank you very much. I intend to vote in favor of the project. It's as it's now presented. Thank you. Are there other commissioners who would like to speak? Other questions? If not, thank you, sir. If not, I'd like to entertain a motion. Madam chair. I recommend that we send case. Z 18. 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 3. Forward to the city council with a favorable report. So long as it includes the added proffer that none of the storage buildings will be taller than two levels or two stories. I'll second. Motion by commissioner Miller and second by commissioner set a field. Question. Yeah, just some discussion. Did we get an answer on what the maximum height is in that district? I know we said 50, but I know it was confirmed. That's correct. That's correct. Okay, cool. Just want to make sure everyone has that information. That's all. All right. Question. We're ready to vote. Commissioner out Turk. Yes. Mr Johnson. Yes. Commissioner Goche. Yes. Commissioner Brian. Yes. Commissioner Satterfield. Yes. Commissioner Darkin. Yes. Commissioner Hyman. Yes. Commissioner Miller. Yes. Commissioner Hornbuckle. Yes. Commissioner Van. Yes. Commissioner Gibbs. Yes. Commissioner Miller Williams. Yes. Ask this 12. 12. Thank you. Our next item, item number eight, public hearing text amendments to the unified development ordinance. We're ready for the staff report. Thank you very much. Michael Stock with the planning department. Text amendment TC 180003, technical amendment that would adopt revised flood insurance rate map or firm panels issued by the federal emergency management agency or FEMA by October 19, 2018 as required by FEMA and state law. The national flood insurance program requires local communities as a condition of future federal financial assistance and federally backed property flood insurance to participate in the flood insurance program and to adopt flood plain ordinances consistent with federal standards to reduce or avoid future flood losses. FEMA implements the NFIP and the North Carolina Division of Emergency Management serves as a state coordinator. It provides that once FEMA approves a flood plain map for the NFIP that each local government affected by flood plain must incorporate the revised map into its flood plain ordinance. I'll be happy to answer any questions that we do have. Graham Summersen from the stormwater services division that specializes in flood plain management here to answer any more technical questions. Thank you. Let me check to see if I have anyone who has signed up. How is it pronounced? Hallberg. Hallberg. I do have Ed Hallberg. My name is Ed Hallberg. I'm 7300. I've been to Church Road in Rawling. I just had a question. I'm just confused by how you can adopt an ordinance for a map that doesn't exist yet. I understand it's probably just a piece of enabling legislation. But what I'd be curious of is are we going to create a situation of limbo for going by the 2008 maps or the 2018 supposed maps? If these are the Army Corps maps, they've been delayed for three years now, every quarter. So I don't know where the October 18th comes from. Just curious. I will attempt to answer that. And if I get anything wrong or I'm not complete, Graham will probably jump in and correct me. But the maps first were issued as preliminary maps back in 2015, I believe Graham. And so the city and or county, depending upon jurisdiction, would take a look at both the existing and the preliminary maps. And our ordinance provides for looking at the most, most recent or available information, preliminary maps being those in the ordinance. Once all the public outreach and the reviews of the maps and different panels and not all the panels are actually changing at this time. A number of the panels that border Granville and Wake County are delayed in changing. And there's a couple interior that also aren't changing because the flood plain just hasn't changed based upon their studies. But once they are finalized, they issue a letter to both city and county jurisdictions and give the effective date. And FEMA says, get your ordinance adopted prior to that effective date. So they've announced what their effective date was. The effective date is October 19th. But what happens between now and October 18th? Once the ordinance is actually adopted, it's effective. And we actually asked that of the state, like, do we still have to treat them the same way, even though October 19th hasn't been reached? They said no. Once you've adopted it, you use those maps. So if you put in a development request today, tomorrow, what rules are you going by? As of right now, you would go by the rules of what are on the books as you've submitted right now. But if the process continues beyond October 18th, what happens? I believe you're vested with that information, with that, with that, with those rules. That's all I want. Thank you very much. Thank you. Are there any questions from commissioners? To my right. None. To my left. None. Okay. Then I think we are ready for a motion for this item. Madam chair, I move that we send item TC 18 quadruple zero three, the FEMA flood insurance rate map update ordinance to the city council and the board of kind of commissioners with a favorable report. Second. Motion by commissioner Miller, second by commissioner gauche, that we move this item forward with a favorable recommendation. All in favor of this item raise your right hand. Thank you. Thank you. Next item. Old business. We have none. Next item. New business. We have taken care of that. But I also have a new commissioner tonight. And I would like to give her an opportunity to tell us just a little bit about her. And we'd like to welcome her tonight. Erin. My name is Erin Durkin. I grew up in Wake County, left North Carolina in 2003. I thought I would never live here again. But here I am. I moved to Durham in 2015 and have really enjoyed my time here. I have a planning degree. I have a law degree. I'm not a planner though. I just have the degree. I practice in New York remotely here in North Carolina. I represent affordable housing developers in New York City. So I bring a lot to the table, but I expect to learn a lot as well. Thank you. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. I'm glad there is an affordable housing person known. Another one up here. Having reached the agenda, the end of our agenda. If there is no further business. Motion to adjourn. Oh question. Oh no. Just a point of privilege. I just wanted to say on my own part, but I hope it'll be seconded by all the other members of the commission that we wish commission member. Go show you lifetime of happiness because when we next see him, you will be a married man. Oh, that's correct. Yeah. Would you like to make any comments before the neptials to all of us? No, no. No, I'm looking forward to my wedding. I'm getting married on Saturday. I am very excited. The wedding preparations have already started, but I assure you that is not why I was late today. That was just traffic on 147. But, um, and I want to thank you, Commissioner Miller for the motion, whatever it was for the well wishes. Thank you. Motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn.