 The board voted 5 to 0 in favor of the designation of Director Walton, the district council, to create an agreed statement regarding Director Smallman's unauthorized disclosure of the district's confidential information. With a goal of releasing that statement to sign by Director Smallman, we will vote all those in favor. Can you vote? This is the portion of the meeting for oral communications. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm adapting and remembering that we have a podium to be in. I'm going to get it cleared here. I'm here to address the... But in any case, I attended the so-called career board that the agency won't decide to do. It's part of my personal experience in this issue. I was on the fishing game about their counties, the fishing game about their commission. And I'm told that this is probably the only private of the time that the mayor of Fishnest, Fishnest, should file together to be completed in the center of this county. With a grant from this agency, I've managed that for a period of years, installing them to persuade the regional board, regional water holding control board to have a center on the listed and prepared for temperature. I've still on some stages of the administrative stages, but I think it will be finalized soon. And that's a grant that was laid back 2011 to forever before it. So anyway, as far as the local situations, you know, we could be in a... We could be in a... So the continuity of scientific information is the whole point of doing consecutive fish monitoring in large numbers. It's particularly important at the moment. We've had this first rainy year and six years last year, and now it's going to be underrated. So, and it's important to understand that there's a life-side process here that was born and accrued here by egg-legious water. Won't return to this watershed for four years, perhaps. Sometimes longer. You spend one, two, three years in the stream. When they go to the ocean, they spend two or three, one to three years in the ocean when they return. So you can't really tell what the long-term impacts are on long-term record keeping. And this watershed is one of the longest records in the state for steelhead. So anyway, I'm hoping the board will decide to, on its own, in the walk operation of South Carolina to continue to find the fish monitoring for this water. Anybody else like to be one of my own? No, I'm not. So for you, I don't know whether it would be everywhere, I lost Henry Longpeaker. April 10th will be another time we're paying property taxes. And at that point, the people in Longpeaker will be paying 20% of the assessment. That means they will be paying 20% for our current purpose on the long-term that has not been fought for. And I know Director Botkin, you didn't think that we were paying for that interest on the bones, but we're paying on the whole package. And that was part of it. And it needs to be, something needs to be done here. Now, I don't know why your general manager doesn't want to say he put that interest on the assessment. He just doesn't seem to want to say he did that. And I've been wracking my head around that, wondering why. And I thought, well, when the bond failed by one vote, Lapo told SLB that they wanted to continue. They had to decide to either accept the terms by, I think it was August of 15, or they had to just start over again. So the board, this board, except for Director Smallman, said they wanted to go ahead. So I'm wondering if it means that that interest could not have been added on later. I don't know, I'm not insuring. I don't know, Lapo even is even aware that the interest was added. A curiosity to me, why that happened, also another curiosity to me is why we paid $3,700 for grant files to come talk about the board policy when you were in a raid for it, my life friend, is a great guy. Knows a lot of stuff, former mayor of Tracy. But $1,737, for him to come talk about for a policy when it wasn't even half the money and has gone back to the community. Thank you. So really quickly, I would suggest the board already have become my thing for the next board meeting to start getting a six-round preparation in time. I was actually hoping that this meeting would be a productive portion of the night. If there were possibly we could still get some significant money back with 12 and 15 inches of booking in February. I agree, but it's not going to be good. I think at that point, we need to talk about the potential cuts that might be necessary and what impact that would have on the raids if any, and that kind of thing. We'll start doing the public thinking about that. I think it would be very productive. The second thing is a question I'd like to present to you. This is a concern agenda that I'd like to learn a little bit more about. That's 11 B and E. But it says the only important question I would be is wrong. How would we go back getting more information about those two items in part of the discussion that would actually be on tape for the temporal of the people here if we can't pull that off? So the board policy manual provides for other members to be able to pull out on the consent agenda. The agenda has written so that the board can pull out on the consent agenda. I think that if I'm pretty confident that we can handle this one, I will remind you. I will remind you. Okay. Would anybody else like to speak on this? I'm just going to write a letter about this when you're in connection. I'd like to mention it now. After all, I would be much to request that either on the April or May meeting a specific agenda I can do to run and not see the project and I'm looking forward to this one and having all the information ready. I'd also like to request that meeting take place at the Zion Fire District. They have a nice meeting. This is wonderful. This is a really good thing. And I think it would be helpful if the long people can pass April and have an instruction and those are going to be hearing on the long people search margin. We had a very good turnout. Unfortunately, we never got to that agenda. So that's kind of the request. And the agenda is already the long people project and meeting at the end. Thank you. Anybody else like to speak? Please come to our new podium with the person in the back upstairs. We'll give you the mic. Good evening. I'm Nancy Macy. I'm here representing the Environmental Committee for the Center of the Valley which is a product of the Valley. I have some great news except for Kevin already holding his announcement. We have BW Alley and Associates Nutrition Staff room in Sofell Creek this year without any administration and the staff though was there and was willing to accept the data for their database as usual. This just happened at the last meeting. As our elected representative we encourage and expect you to do the same. We hope that since the monitoring program has been in place for many years and the products are clearly defined in the long since. The work involved will be doable at Sofell Sanctuary. The Sofell Creek Water Board is both maintaining monitoring while supporting the exciting plans of the joint juvenile seal head and stream habitat monitoring program. The public may not realize the significance of having power districts, the county, the city of San Cruz, Sofell Creek Water District is one of the cities of Capitol and Watsonville all working together on this project. It is rather extraordinary. Sofell Creek Water District has a major role because of its decades of leadership and the ability of its highly skilled staff to work closely with the county and the others on this issue. This district has always been the way. It is such a remarkable thing having over 20 years of data and decision-making, seeing how patterns emerge that can guide plans. We cannot be proud of the district's role in supporting this first on its own and then in partnership. The district knows that the Salmone population directly reflects the health of the watershed and therefore the health of the source of our water supply. Perhaps with so much time and energy focused on this issue it's hard not to feel that just as possible is already happening or has been done or is being done to support fish. It's not, it is hard and also that the suggestions for improvement in the reports based on years of data are already being addressed but we can't say that yet. Not yet. This is demonstrated in a summary of some of the more important not yet confronted problems that need to be addressed in the near future attached. We'll go back here, I'm not going to read those today but it's a later issue and you can look at them later. Since our region is entering a perilous future with time change already impacting our lane levels, increasing fluctuations and adding to the many stresses on our precious aquifer increased effort must be made in conclusion, that our work continues to lead our maintenance policy of some modern monitoring and reporting of annual share that's done for decades previously and I hope you will read the rest of the letter because it does have some really cool things about future stuff to work together. And now is that is that here's to me your honest contractor it sounds like you might have avoided a long suit, hopefully you do but had you brought this one on back to targeting everybody who's a rate payer $10 a month for legal teams so I'm just hoping that maybe you guys will get over this addiction to lawsuits not really a healthy environment for the rate payer to close up every year it seems like the rates a lot actually add $10 on every month to everybody's fees and I mean I currently got injured due to a hazard that was set up by St. Lawrence Valley Water District and I'm hoping that this doesn't end up being like some five year affair I have nothing against rate payers I have nothing against St. Lawrence Valley Water District I just am surprised like when they had the five years to present take my property from nothing of course there's just something that got to stand up for myself can I get out of five years and I've got a technical win you know it wasn't very gratifying but you know this one here all I can say is that I hope like there's this big hole right over here to just talk about safety and stuff a big hole right over here by the what's that junction park so that's that San Manzo Park over here and there's like a racer and it goes underneath the road and there's like this cone like right over by the front of the bridge and you wouldn't go home you know a truck driving over that's going to fall into the hole you know this evening go in and you must know what I'm talking about right oh you should check oh it's a huge and then so you've got a meter over there at the park right so that it appears to me that it's getting undermined by water so maybe somebody wants to pay attention to it but I mean I see and I have to drive by that all the time so I drive away because I know that it's following underneath and I don't want to go home in a hole and I still got 30 seconds well anyways I hope that you get over your addiction to litigation and holy wait this is your voting I hope we get a lot more of this more I really do I mean very good man I'm sorry this is happening too I'm Bruce Oliver from the Bolshevik you had a meeting last week last month and I found out it was here I support the continuing of my very new decent during three years so I'm glad that I'm glad that it's going to work out that other agencies are going to cooperate and going to put part of the bill and so Donaldson will be able to understand I want to remind the board that the board has been in violation of this water permit ever since the district took over the block 3 water system the director of operation he's informed the board that the district was in violation of every day of our children if it doesn't rain the district would be in violation of its permit every day of the day the solution of the problem is to turn on the intertide and supply groundwater to Felton when the flowing river is too low in other words comply with the permit it seems like a modest proposal to me merely to comply with the permit the permit was a result of a process that took about 10 years between the 70s and the 80s and it involved the city sanctuaries and the county sanctuaries and so it was a compromise it was first of all it was going through the block but first thing is people were asking me wow what was in that letter what was the bill the thing was that he had to make a request a written request and unfortunately that request got forwarded to the board via the attorney and so it became this issue about a turn of town privilege but section 995 says on request if you read section 995 the first word is accept you can't parse that sentence unless you understand what it says and it says accept 905.2 if you start reading 905.2 there's three reasons to apply and the district could have denied our representation system and all three at one actually if I wanted to anybody else like to come on to the first act of the new business which is the public committee member so staff does have a privilege to provide so our staff is aware all of the current public members have the willingness to continue with serving on the committee except for Rick Moran and the environmental committee we did receive this resignation so he has chosen not to continue serving as a public member so I would request that the board tonight at least recognize that as the decision tonight on one of the applicants serving on the environmental committee we will be missing the public member for that committee we will send out requests to all of the applicants requesting that they be here tonight for a possible new name of the board so hopefully they have all decided to attend tonight I'm not aware of all leaving when indicating they would not be able to make it I think so with that in mind I will turn it back over to the board okay so we have of course the committee outside of that and we are considering the public member appointment on each of those board and we currently have a gentleman John Dodge Paz is on Mr. Foltz who I see here on the admin committee Rick Moran who was just mentioning that our environmental committee Mr. Foltz so I I have three pages of how to think about this thing at the time and so I wanted to describe the process as well as possible maybe get some buy-in from the rest of the board and basically sound good or does not sound good and and then start through a process of I'd like to first gauge how many people who are wishing to be on this committee just raise your hand so I can so I see three present members okay and we have so anyway I'm considering that each of the directors well first take our communication from the public on this item and then we'll move to board directors can ask a question of each applicant and I've done the same question I'll probably ask everybody the same question and then with the chair with agreement with the rest of the directors we'll discuss each committee in order in some order this seems to make sense to the chair if I have some disagreement so some of them may be simple appointments where there's only one person who's interested in me and for others there may be some more debate or some more thought and then I'll come back and select one committee and then take nominations from the directors and then we'll hear more about the manual for appointments to that and then we'll have some discussion about that and then we'll get to that so I'd like to point out that coming here tonight we have six applicants for board committees and there's been one that has come since the board factor and that's included with the application forms that the directors have received are nice to the public and we should I think that person has interested in budgeting finance so so at this point I'll ask the public would anybody like to comment on this process or anything regarding the appointments to me can I ask a question? well I'm not sure you can give a hand but comment well I mean what can I comment on can I comment on somebody who's on here anything regarding if you want to suggest one of our applicants being considered strongly or well I almost hate to say I support somebody because you probably don't like them but said John Hayes he's out of town for work John Hayes really likes all of you folks he seems like me too even though we're at odds I don't get it maybe the man's all confused but now John Hayes is the kind of guy who wants to bring people together he wants to work problems out I think he's a perfect person to be on the committee to the finance committee that he's on he knows what he's doing he's smart he likes Brian Lee that ought to be a plus for you anyway I like him I think he's that's it thank you I joined SLB in 2016 and I have to say I've met some really remarkable people and two of the people that are my favorites who are really contributing that I think all rate payers should be really grateful for John Hayes as well as he said and Bob Foltz one of the first committee meetings we went to was the Alameda Committee and I was so impressed with him probably back there I think these are real keepers and I really encourage more people than others thank you any other personal selection of these committee meetings I don't see anybody so I'll close out all of them so part of I believe they're perhaps the best way to go allow well, I think I see three I'll put three people here present this evening and go through our questions of the people considering that maybe not everybody gets to be on the committee they want to be on and actually first, could I ask for people and three individuals who raise their hands to identify who they are and how you Mr. Foltz Bob Foltz the general in the back here Fred Stevens thank you for coming and yourself I did tell everyone that if they came to the meeting and they had filled out an application that they would have that opportunity to speak I think that would be a good question let's let's do that first would any who you'd like to speak this is not compulsory but we have the opportunity to if you want to we'll proceed with maybe asking some questions I believe I'm applying to the environmental committee I believe in good environmental stewardship I'm achieving sustainability both for ourselves and our fellow preachers and species of the San Ranzo Valley as I mentioned in my application I'm a GIS analyst I've been working in the field for over 15 years for a time I worked for an environmental consulting firm where I worked with biologists or mythologists and lots of biological surveys and analysis primarily for C-CLUB related impact analysis and restoration work goes out as a neighborhood organizer I also wrote and was awarded a community development block grant for my neighborhood I applied over 200 trees and tri-block cuts and the tree wells as a volunteer I worked on a lot of cat restoration projects and there were some solutions for that Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you and bring that kind of perspective to the independent perspective, knowing that it was trying to take outside the box, but how could we do things differently, better, and hopefully more productive than the pantheon? There's a lot of work still to be done on that, and I'm not going to have to make sure there's a lot of work to be done on all committees, but of course I feel we can't finish yet, mainly around policies, procedures, and some of the outreach activities that we'd like to do with the rural community, which I think are, as we've seen from some of the controversies over the last couple of years, I think they're very, very down-to-earth. And again, a variety of things. Yeah, I'd like to consider that work. So thank you for your consideration. I'm certainly happy to answer those questions now or later. I'll ask a rector then if there's any questions. Okay, so now I'm going to ask a rector. My name is Fred Stevens, and I'm recently retired as my application state. I spent the last 22 and a half years working as a city accountant in this way for a previous time. I was the main mechanic down there, which dealt with a lot of engineering homes, hikes, you know, everything. I worked closely with my boss on budgeting and finance and the administration of the maintenance shop, the maintenance department. Yeah, I just wanted to, you know, be involved in the, you know, the running of the San Juan Rural Water District. I had a red hair, you know, concerned about house running, and I got to have, you know, some kind of input into it. Even if it's, you know, behind the scenes, I'm not much of a political, you know, activist of any sort, but I'd rather work behind the scenes not up to doing this. And that's pretty much all I have. Okay. Well, that's a good question. Okay. I was asking when I scheduled this, or put this in my kind of new process of this, I was thinking that we might have more people present that we might be some, he taught me that we all have some of the choices and all of those. So, would anybody care to speak to anybody right now and start with any assistance? Okay. Then also just that we start with budget and finance. It seems there's probably more than that. And anybody? We have heard glowing remarks about Mr. Hayes. I think that all of our experience, though some of us have more limited experience with him than others, have the same glowing thing now. I don't, since he's not here with us this evening, there's not a question we can ask. So, I'm just going to ask the committee members or the board members who share in time with him as a committee member to reflect on how he is as a committee member and his potential commitments. I think I said that I'm not sure if we're making... That was a little more of a discussion. We're not quite at all. But we'll be there soon. Okay. You can make the question. Do you want to speak about him? Yeah, I'm sorry for any questions. Okay. But I don't know. I agree with everybody. And then, you know, he just seems, you know, really on top of love, you know, and he has the talent and, you know, there's a lot of people here that are volunteering also as well, but Mr. Hayes got my vote. Well, having served on the committee with him, I have to say he's got great technical grasp and he's got some history with the district as part of the board for more fuel to the friend and to the district. I also think it's the positive thing that's mentioned in his application that his employer is very flexible about. So if attendance and meetings would be an obstacle the way it is, or, you know, there are the committees. So I thought that was, you know, a part of the board there. And, you know, I think we've all been favorably impressed by his attendance. He's got an important role in his job in D, which is not a very responsible person, but he shows a real investment in the community and is the one that comes out of his D. But also attendance, quite few. So, great. I think this is not a difficult one for everybody to do it. So if there's no more discussion, I'll ask if anybody would like to make a nomination. I would be nominated today. I'll second. The board is getting there with the suit. I'd like to call out the voice vote. I want to call out the board and John Hage because I don't have anything to say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any none? I think probably everybody in the audience would have their own opinions on this. I look forward to continuing this. So let's consider another committee. The environmental I think would be good. Mr. Moran has chosen not to continue on that. I want to say I very much appreciate the time he spent on that. Anybody who comes and gets thoughtful and gets good to be commended for doing so. And I hope that we also attended many board directors meetings in addition to this committee meeting. Which again is not required as a committee member but it's much appreciated by the board directors. I'll just say that we had two excellent applicants. I was frustrated about how we would be designed. What I liked about both of our applicants is they had practical experience either directly work-related or working in communities or in this field. And I think having practical experience in the environmental field is a real asset because you realize the complexity of the issues that we wrestle with. And I think that's always helpful. So, you know, and specifically our challenge is here. And it's like, you know, watched by forestry issues and watershed issues in the base of the planet. So it's sort of spoiled for choice. But I do believe that this bonus is here and I think, you know, we can do this. But I think it's lived in a hard choice. And therefore, I think, I'm sure that they will be able to attend this evening. I'm willing to answer that. Similarly, we're very hard on that direction. I'm aware of the level of effort that was before the district. It's watershed stewardship obligations in base of species, landscape management, watershed management. And so I think Ms. Gomez's experience lends itself well to that. With regard to the basis of species management, we have an ICANN policy and program that is in development. And I think the experience will help us continue to steward that forward in a thoughtful and careful way. So I put my support behind the nomination. All right, I agree. I know that since she's a fellow on the peak, I think it's a little bit of a disagreement. It would be good to have her twice in the fall. But I've actually been a field who's not anticipating it, but we've bumped into each other. We can think through the process. We can be contributors to the policy to bring special skills. I think GIS tools are a very valuable thing for being able to visualize things that are skillfully need to be exercised. We do. But I think we're good about working the appointment. Question, please. Have we been told through the other afternoon since I went to the trouble of putting an application in? Yes, I especially go ahead. What do you look like? Sure. That person? Well, I mean, sort of that application for us in Canada. I'm sure of that. And that is Steve Davidson. And he had a background that we're very interested in, and we've watched it on some screens. I'll be right back. Yeah, there's another person, Eugene, who submitted an application that's not here this evening. And you were seeing the boy back? Yes. He's in the late edition. So there's a public copy. His application was not received in the crowd. Maybe not the best place to have a public meeting. Come on, our next committee. That's all this is going to be. The next committee, I think, might be appropriate to actually either would be, is the engineering committee. We have one person, Mr. Stevens, who is here this evening. And Brian, you said that Dan also expressed that. Dan actually did not. Dan has been silent, which is really hot. So I'm suspicious that he might not be somewhere available for communication. Because he has not responded in person. So we have two people who were strongly interested in serving on the engineering committee. And the other people were willing to do it as a second choice. But Mr. Stevens is primary. He was willing also to serve on the committee appointments. I know it wasn't well written. We understood it fine. Anybody like that? I'll just repeat my comment that I appreciate practical experience. And I appreciate the real ability. So those are both practical considerations that people serve as well. And I appreciate you showing up. Thank you. Thank you. I also have some experience in wastewater. Someone to sweep my shirt both down the way of water. I spent a lot of time in the lab. You're at a timely scale for us at this point. I don't know if you were there in 1994 but I was working with Humphrey Construction. That's exactly when I started. I started in January 1995 when the construction was going on. I know you bumped some heads because in my paint job I'm not much of a political person. I think you have some really good quality. I know you do. I spent my time in the trenches. I spent my time in the trenches. I know I spent a lot of time. You're a good person. That's my kind of guy. I'll second up. I'll call this on the board. Any of those? Welcome. As you said, the Engineering Committee is already full. You are our choice tonight to be that person. I hope we get a chance to thank Dan for this. Once a month or twice a month but then we can give you all the information on all the projects that we're... That would be helpful. I'm just wanting to know if it's really full. We'll figure it out. Just remember, we're tired. We'll make sure you're busy now. No, a girlfriend does none of that. We have one more committee to consider and that's the attending committee. There were two people who expressed their preference for that. I'm going to ask Mr. Holtz, who's here tonight, and Mr. Garen, didn't you? Yeah, I don't know how to pronounce his last name but he's not here, so he can. Of course. So... Let me ask you. I want to express my appreciation for his dedication. He's devoted, comes prepared, has thoughtful input. We don't always agree. But the balance of his input means that we all come to a better, more informed consensus. So I want to appreciate him for showing up today and continuing his dedicated service. I thought the other applicant, or I apologize for not pronouncing the name correctly, Darren Dinger, has some apparently great qualifications and some interesting experience that could potentially have served us well, but I think it goes without saying that the role of unmarried women is to show up. Thank you. I am pleased to continue Mr. Holtz's service. I'll agree with that. I've come about for a number of years now and I'm looking to tell the person who brings good perspectives to that. I feel hard to work around the committee. It's great to have more than one candidate and I think that they made our job easier by those who showed up. We have a lot of excellent candidates and I'm hoping that we can recruit some of those for grant committees or other things. Okay, well, yeah, it's definitely a good question right now that Holtz has got my vote because he's really been coming to meetings and active and he's got my vote and I'll call Holtz. All those in favor of appointing Mr. Holtz to look at the committee, please say something. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. Welcome back. I appreciate that. Great. So let's move on. The next meeting is on. So you can solidate your development over time because it means a lot. And all that staff. LACO has an opening. There are two applicants for the position. One is from Sanford Court District and the other is from Scott Valley Water District. Staff has no recommendation for this government. And I would just like to, I would endorse the recommendation to take the secondary candidate as an alternate. I would also support Mr. David Hodge. He's, in my experience, encountering him at a number of different occupants. He thinks about water, he's a water district first, obviously, and he thinks about water districts and he thinks about water and he thinks about local authorities. So I think he has a really commendable frame of reference, but the service has grown in this role. And he's got excellent experience with all kinds of government bodies, so we think very effective. I agree with the directors. I don't know him well. I do see that he's got a very extensive background. He's always seemed like a good person that he could work with. And it's good that he's developed a relationship with those people who already have a relationship. He's got value in himself. The major participants of the work has just been in the new Ground Farm Sustainability Agency that's been formed. He's not an appointee to it, but really. So I'm very comfortable. Oh, awesome. I think we actually have a public comment on all of these. Would anybody would like to comment on this appointment? I just have a question. So this is an appointment for live coverage. Is that correct? No, I don't think that's accurate. Is that an agency on the redevelopment? So do all water districts weigh in on these nominations? All special districts. All water districts. All those in favor? Oh, and there will be two votes. This is the appointee to it and this is the choice about the other person to deal with. All those in favor of that? Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none. Our vote is for David. I would move that we support the best writer at the alternate. That's the second part. I move to the alternate position. If there were no nominations filed for the alternate position on the oversight board, there are two options. Offer an alternate core to be offered the alternate position to the runner-up or don't fill the alternate position and follow your recommendation which would be to offer whoever the runner-up is. That's the alternate position and your motion is to offer the runner-up the alternate position. I believe the state that he is the current holder of that position so he's definitely followed by the alternate for it so I cannot imagine not being voting for him in that manner. Yeah, I would prefer that you not go read that writer. This was the end of the 13th Avenue and it was a huge garage. They watched the it went all the way to the coastal commission. Somehow we got away with it. I think he's the cherry-de-gerard fly-boat. All those in favor? At the point Mr. Guy's right. For the runner-up. All those in favor? All right. And you vote. So item C is the across-the-campus well-safe project management for all five of them. So Mother's Secretary is taking a very concerning issue and elevated to a very, very troubling issue regarding well-safe and impossible info. We have been living along with as well for a number of years. We've all been in peace alive and last year staff made the decision to move forward with placement. It would seem just not worth saving and it reached the end of its useful life. We have been working with environmental permitting agencies to give the ability to actually go in there and work on this well. And we were granted that just last week or the week prior and we have the ability to go in there now. With the drought conditions that have been mentioned earlier it is imperative that we get this well in as fast as possible. We are requesting that the board waive the bidding requirements and we are able to verify this but we have been involved in all of our wells at least a good chunk of our wells that have been constructed in the past a few decades. The work on the Scott Valley well that we recently have turned into service. He knows our groundwater basin he knows most of the groundwater basin and highly recommended both by staff and by the industry as a whole. So we are requesting that we get this well and have yet to be on hand while it is being constructed so we can do it as fast as possible. We also work hand in hand with Nick Johnson and we are working together and we are very understanding together of the office work and of the construction. It is needed in the construction and so on. My question is on this quote does this include the actual well currently itself or is it? It is not as per design as a well and it is the construction modern way of the well in hearing product management services. So then in addition to actually constructing as well what do you estimate cause for that? The board proves tonight we move straight forward in the bidding process and we hope that 30-day bidding process. Okay. But that is in addition to the what is it? 63? Right. Those are well constructed in addition that is half a million dollars project. Okay. We will be back to the board with the bids contractor bids I mean that the work that he is doing is very reasonable I do. Yeah. I have met him once but I am not agreed. It seems like a recent call. I just want to make sure that this is going to be well done. It is really early in the week and helps a lot. Any work close to the work close to my files with family and your eyeballs he has a very good understanding of the I would just reiterate I think that comments prior they come out with standing in this district is very very common that we have had very good rain and we are soon going to go offer service water supplies and so we are going to have to rely on our groundwater sources and they happen to provide I am a fan of not foregoing competitive processes. The other supposedly replaceable will be so close to the existing well that any sort of process will be destroying the existence of the first and then it is not moving into first team we have had that already carried out in my life moving through that process and also through the state of California our resources and got improved for the location that we are going to do. Just like you are asking is that kind of thing a categorical exemption or do you all care? I also have a question okay go ahead Hi Barbara and I the question that I have is Rick why don't you destroy the original well first and then build the second one what if you have a problem with the second one I mean would you keep your original well and then have them in parallel? I can't answer The existing well in case against collapse is not functional the ground pack has come in we want to destroy that well first because we don't want to damage the new well it's an explosion, it's an underground explosion with concrete that blows into the occupier and splits the screens for a big seal so when you do that we don't want to take a chance because the other well is so close we don't want to damage but this well here has reached its life expectancy we can't use it ground pack to escape again but it's already in the well it's a very natural solution we have another well in that general area we have past temp of 7 which is about 1400 feet from that and we have past temp of 5a which is approximately 700 feet all on the same level and they're the active well correct 7 is getting ready to be re-apped it's all primer found in the re-app and 5a is that well you kind of answered my question there I was wondering how many other wells do you have right in the area and how many people are you serving I mean it sounds like this it could be an emergency situation there we get surface subsystem surface subsystem and we have the intertide so with the intertide there isn't a lot of emergency but as we get more in the summer months we have to have a lot of water to get there but there is an emergency to get it from the den sea, fire, fog, we need to we need to move forward any other questions we have a group of Resolution we have a group of Resolution 17-18 what's the second of course we're always in favor of the I one item left is a new business which is a request for authorization to attend the conference for reimbursement what about staff I'm not going to write to you well I actually would like to I this was from I didn't actually put this on the agenda and I can't go I don't even waste the time because I cannot attend this conference so I do have a friend who lives in Salt Lake City so I thought hey I can possibly cover my expenses but I cannot go so I can I can't I can't go I lost it's on the agenda but I'm not you can I can say you need to change my agenda but I will take public comment on it I know thank you for your effort so have you already done the application for this agency and you're just going to become a member without attending or you're not going to you know it was just to it was one of the seminars where the you know you know we put it to the conference then I basically can't go so but I quite have one basically said that you would apply to become a member of this agency no we were just presenting no in order to the board needs to approve the attendance pre-approved there's other ones that we attend so this is for workshops or classes something like this was a conference they do have one of the the only famous things that I can order in the conference you submit a letter that we didn't notice it's good that they informed about this so we are anybody else want to comment on this one I don't see any on to unfinished business which there is none and that's followed by the consent agenda President Bochum you may recall the request I made to pull items I think it was 11D and 11D sure item 11D well quick comment item 11D is our employee policy referring to pay advance we've had pay advances requests and I think they've been written in the past prior to my arrival we just had another pay advance request and we have a policy I requested that HR draft one up they did and and then the other one is just a reclassification of staff so that we can maintain staffing at the level that we needed at is we're lowering the requirements for one staff member and that's going to be lower in the pay scale for that staff as well so that we can fill that position and then we're also adding an additional we're not adding staff members I want to say this right we're adding the need of service worker position we're going to fill that with existing staff so there's no change in staffing it's just we're shipping the pieces around so that we can have two field crews out there at the same time please feel free to thank you we have one request to pull those two items I'll ask anybody else want to fill in does any director want to pull there was a member of the public who was interested in doing so so I am not pulling this from the consent I would just suggest that we take care of what consent agenda items we can't finish and I would move that we move a consent agenda items A, B, and C and then we'll move on to the others then then I call the vote on items A, B, and C I was in favor of okay good items please say hi you're in none and do you want to pull in okay discussion since I don't know if the public is interested in what we do what we've had a brief explanation of what those are so we can probably now open this up for the public final question okay so item 11 the day of end would anybody then probably want to this will be that so in the it's a policy so when I was reading through the policy it seemed like I was saying this pay policy is different from an emergency policy but then I'm going to say that in order to get the payment under this policy I wasn't really sure if that was clear and since it's hadn't been from the Adam's Committee where we deal with a lot of policies I understand there's probably an urgency here because somebody needs money is this meant to be an emergency thing or is it meant to not be an emergency thing but is anyone announced for it so there's HR definitions for hardship or emergency and this policy will not cover those conditions so but it is strongly encouraged that the employees request a pay advance have a good reason for it not just any employee saying have a good pay advance on our situation so we do say that it's going to require an extraordinary emergency situation even though it's a big burden of that hardship for emergency loan policies I think the confusion is maybe there's a little more emergency on both categories so maybe what we could do is say we require a short break because I would I'm not in the water just a suggestion so is this kind of like a payday loan without interest in a very short repayment that's the other question is that kind of intent here if you want to do it that way sure yeah that's helping out our employees that was my only idea I took a quick look over some of the shoulder of the policy also I think I saw a bill that was I don't know the employee got a thousand dollars this is an employee who's worked here for years and years I guess I just wanted to tell you a little bit about the experience that I had back in 2000 was the height of that company and my employer gave me a bonus if I would work there for another six months and and at the time I was getting divorced so the other side came to court and they said well this is how much money he makes and I was getting actually 25,000 or six months so let's set the child support and so on according to and my attorney advocated well wait a minute you know he made a prior you know an agreement that they gave me said that if I didn't work there for the full six months I would have to return on the bonus and so my attorney was advocating that hey please don't assume this is a permanent compensation you know going forward this is only for the experience and if he gets fired or if he quits and at that point the judge said good luck to any employment attorney and good luck so if this thousand bucks or whatever it would be one week's pay whatever it would be it says in the process but in my mind I kind of have a superior project could that be historically if there is a default it is a subtraction for the development one how often has this been used informally I mean is there very often very often I mean in the three years I think you're having a good question that the staff consider clarification meeting that one sentence just to say two words one second okay all of you okay okay ask the case in senior field service workers position the staff gave a brief presentation about this this is a re wording of staff specifications for so that we have more flexibility to do more with what we have as a family and to make sure we can recruit individuals that are appropriate for the staff so I feel one of the the only other was the change in classification of the driving license we're moving to class A department public comment on that again I'll be brief so just to make sure I had in my mind we're taking that this is an open position and we're dropping its classification down in order to make it so that there's some existing employees that we want to promote into both of these late positions try and answer the way we have it so we currently have a senior field service worker in a lead field service worker and the lead works for the senior so what we're doing is we're dropping the senior down to that level about two lead field service workers who will have the ability to have two construction workers out there with somebody on the side who is knowledgeable and knows how to operate a shuttle so the senior wouldn't get on the field typically the senior is not going on the field and will that senior or will it be dropped? no, we are trying to fill one of the with this change we will have one open lead field service worker position that we may recruit internally or we may have to go externally to get that good, I didn't think you were devoting somebody but I wanted to make sure I had enough of the case thank you question about having a salary survey I haven't heard anything about it since curious as to what stage that's in but given that fact my experience as an industry you don't do re-classifications during a salary survey because it's like getting a cart full of horse you could in fact create a problem with what you're about to do with your salary survey and that's the whole point is to re-peg how can you be re-pegging trying to end with the cart I'm just wondering is this possibly going to create some problems with that salary survey information that I think was already progressing or where is it? the salary survey we've been working with the employees union to develop some understandings and frameworks around how the salary survey will be operated and what the end result is going to be with the intent of having everybody have the table reading what the end results are going to do before we start this because I don't want anybody going to the end and saying so we're still in negotiations with the union on that it is because time is in the process obviously otherwise we'd be a lot farther along than we are I'm not having any visibility end date for the salary survey so I don't see that impacting this change impacting the salary survey this one is the immediate need of the salary survey is long-term need so I understand that but still the follow-up question is then shouldn't you at least let the union know about what you're planning on doing in case they might have a problem? where do you have it? then I would give approval of their re-classification of the field services worker position as staff members also so back to the needs of note for the month for some last work meeting and now during the first night at 10 stopped by the Rotary Club on January 29th and we gave a rousing statement district presentation to the Rotary Club we were backstage unfortunately by a gentleman from Spain who was on a rotary sort of tour of California so that was pretty neat to hear about his interest in the times of California and where he came from also I attended the Connecting Drops which was held down on post February 1st that was well attended with a good group of people and a good discussion regarding the state of the water in San Frans County it was an expert channel and an expert event and it was well received by the community so there was an article at the end of this board packet regarding the match that I heard yeah, Dr. Bob can also do that so we will be moving along in the state's rate process we will be having a follow-up later part of this month, February 22nd with the very free state residents again to go over past financial history of the very free state system to give them a background of history of where we are Stephanie Hill is working with John Duchase to develop a presentation for them so that we can make sure that what we are telling them is presentable and understandable having that discussion will give them a better picture of their financial condition where that system is having yesterday with the engineer for the probation tank replacement that was after I wrote this statement with the board packet where I was hoping that we could go on to this next month and have requests to start coordinating an early April 4th contract I am still hopeful that we can push that forward as fast as possible however I was reminded that we have PG&E asking them to be powerful because today I was reminded of that walk-back and they are not the most responsive organization in the world so I am hopeful that we can interact with them and ensure that they are working with us to make that happen because there is a pull in the way so I will be providing updates as we move along on that project but we are ready to go to that we have a plan in place with the rate increases we have got the hormones in place we have got the land inspects in place now it is just a matter of the email we got funded on so fall creek fish ladder we have two projects in the fall creek fish ladder we have the FEMA emergency repair work and then we have the actual replacement for modifications in the fall creek fish ladder those two projects have been passed a month and a half or half a year and we have been trying to find them we have been separating them this is the best work for the district and the current plan now is that the repair work or modification work that is not being reliant is going to be in the USDA long package and we are going to defer that construction for at least a year because it has a very tight window of construction opportunity and we need to get the funding secured before we move forward on dating that project the plans and specs are ready the permits are almost ready we will expect to have those permits in hand by the time we will bid next year the emergency repair work the email refundable repair work we are going to move forward on that this year it has that same type window but it does not have the permit overhanging that the other one does and the USDA loan overhang that that other one does the replacement does and then I am going to let staff fill in on the finance and business status report and Rick fill in on the operations report and then I would like to come back to the environmental report and two results that we have December had a drop forward in running significantly higher than our run rates for actual phase management so December did get down to be much more similar to what was lost in the shift in revenue compared to prior for usage and fixed fee from the fluctuations in the dance of what the rate change did how more money to be consumption based for the space to be based for the most part expense for tracking as we would have been expecting like we were expecting earlier the well sticks there were some more significant attempts to repair stuff earlier that caused an uptake in operating expenses for that during Q2 but overall everything for the most part is looking good we're still we're still at 11% above what the baseline is that there would be significant changes in consumption to swing anything such as that any questions I'd just like to ask if you could go to the next version I mean I'll discuss it later I'll do the environmental I'm ready to go I'll do the environmental quick and then we'll turn it over to you I just want to point out that the Blue Room panel on sandals adaptive management and then has hopes that they'll be completed by May 2018 possibly that will lead over into June of 2018 as well the writing of that report is going to be a little bit more of a heavy lift than she was originally anticipating but that's moving along we're actually going to be the response back if you go to page 101 of the board packet you'll see water conservation was earlier in the evening I'm going to go to the fossil why is it being the comment that we got to start thinking about this we are thinking about this we are very well aware of the rainfall or lack of rainfall and the condition of the system and the need for water management and conservation and what the district needs to do in terms of all of these events coming into place so we are recognizing that we're starting to make progress we're not going to re-adult the variation paragraphs and three little points there we'll see that we are starting to initiate drought concerns and additional and then the last last thing I want to point out is that we are going to be hosting or we're going to be having a state of the San Lorenzo River symposium on March 17 and I encourage everybody and anybody to learn to compare fire this district is actually participating in hosting that event and that will be on February 28th so that will also be interesting discussion that people can attend now on that's it, so we can go for a break we are moving into the 2018 the line flushing program we're doing this month at March 27 we'll be starting with the Hanifel Hall there it is Hanifel Hall Penelom and Lumpico and we've discussed the woods area for flushing this year some of the new iron and manning these seven deposits in our mainline it's an annual program it's important to do the drought potential it's an important water quality operation of the district we're moving ahead with the blue tank replacement we have some reports back in the concrete slab the existing concrete slab as you all remember we had no records that had been inherited even now in the wood design records of the tank of the foundation before we put the tank back we wanted to ensure that the foundation was adequate for the tank and we've received all the written reports now and given it to the analysis until we can put the tank back on that foundation we're still moving ahead with the Felfel Water System water meter replacement program and we'll continue with the system-wide replacement program until all the years have changed after that on drought and in production we are creeping up our percentage between now and 2013 was only about 6.6% so we are nearing that gap that's something we'll be taking a look at that's not saying that's all consumption that could be leakage that's something we'll be looking at for the next year we'll be doing system-wide replacement analysis for the month of January that's at the Wal Creek Fish Lab that's month by month what we were for that month was with the drought most likely as we get into 10 April, my problem is we're not going to be taking clients with that, those are the highlights of the report we are moving forward with replacement, the Paso 6 we're going to receive our Felfel Fish and Wildlife approval report that's why we're appealing to make this effort to you that was probably the last meeting of the panel if you have any questions before I go to the public to comment I will just go to the director's report I'm going to the director's communication okay well well anyway I would like to I believe that a letter is in order to send to Kristen Kibelsen with the juvenile steelhead group just following up on what we discussed at the meeting last month and in particular what the director chooses to come follow up with a report on correct me if I so we're still waiting to hear back from them but I believe that a letter is in order that the board just follow up and make sure that that just basically somewhere here will we discuss at that meeting in particular what she needed you know basically in addition basically somewhere I think I'll also now the draft letter and to the board if they would like to edit and so that the letter goes out to that group and then it's also CC to all the other water districts basically I mean I think it's a I think a draft or a general well I apologize I didn't mean to bring this to this meeting but it's basically it's not something that really needs to be brought to the working that's essentially a correspondence letter to the JSH following up on what was discussed with our board which you brought up about that I think it might just be a post there's any correspondence between us and Ms. Wilson about next steps for us particularly with regard to how I think it was a what was the there's both of them the reason I bring this up is because I can't as a single board member I can't you know it has to be a board I think we're starting to discuss an item we started to sound like a request for action should be a separate board if any director wants to comment on and suggest something and that's something they can do outside of the board meeting but not being an agenda item tonight we can't the board can't it's just a correspondence it's just sort of a correspondence that can either bring to the future meeting on a agenda item or either defer whatever you decide on that but I think I just wanted to bring that out to the board's attention I believe that our correspondence to Ms. H to express our opinion or what we discussed so we decided to follow up on that I encourage you to single staff okay I'll I'll do that I think we're having I will send this I will send a draft recommendations to staff to follow up on that without any other presentation so yeah so one of the things that I know with pleasure from Jen's report, the environmental report is the AmeriCorps team that has been led by Linda Scamp of the Valley Women's Club working on a basic plan AmeriCorps teams work all over the state on many different names on many different names and the current federal budget proposal has suggested eliminating all AmeriCorps funding and all senior core funding in future years and for those of you who know the value to communities of AmeriCorps service I would suggest that we find these kinds of programs of value that should contact your appropriate representative and I'll just mention that the environmental sustainability will need to be in February 28 to report back something to them part of that is will also be a technical committee that will be considered statements of 12-19 regarding the property environmental model and also conflicts with the different lessons learned that's it for me sorry oh the grant I believe that was mentioned in your environmental report was the we did have a news article about the very tail end of the package and that was the person I thought about the grant so the JPA did receive a $1 million grant we helped fund the grant owner sustainability plan that is about half of what it's going to take to do that so that is about probably $400,000 because it doesn't have to be included in the JPA committee reports I'd ask for one about the committee agenda item anybody else are you sure? we had recently we spoke about we had three issues although one of them we didn't get too very much staff brought to us a preview of the the contract that had some brief discussion we had general discussion of communications and outreach goals for the district and staff is committing to bring a request for proposal a draft RFP for communication support for a community's consideration it's probably going to take a few cycles through the committee probably not too many because we'd like to get moving on this but it will have committee input but that first draft will be coming to us in March we spoke a little bit about advocacy priorities for the water district upcoming legislative or regulatory issues this is very early in the legislative season there are going to be some really interesting things on the ballot in terms of initiatives and there's going to be some really interesting legislation as well around the water energy nexus and energy that's likely to either benefit or will be keeping an eye on as the legislative season goes on that's pretty much it we had a brief discussion about what the goods charge and what the agenda and the current legislative violence I'll basically just very quick note on the budget and findings that we went back and looked at probably for the last time in 2017 and discussed the community and that the environment that was actually actually that's where you see they've been covered by the environmental or other force it was the group of Canadians and the group of other board all I'm hoping is to give to public would like to comment on any of the reports that we'll handle in the first place it's not really stopping I'm just curious how many gallons does it take to flush the system when we do that and relative to I guess how many gallons we sell a month and how many gallons does it take to flush the system I'm kind of curious I believe it's over twice the volume of whatever section of the water that you're working but it depends if you're trying to flush out that iron and magnetized crap that gets into the water I understand the essential part of what you're doing I'm just curious how many gallons I'll get to working on that first of all we're not flushing the entire system just parts of it and we'll be able to give you gallons when we're done we actually calculate each day of flushing in pairs it'll probably be close to a couple hundred thousand gallons maybe maybe a maximum of I don't know what I got but as long as we do it every year it's less and less at the end of the question season on about six weeks we'll go through the calculation for a monthly spectrum for example there's about forty three thousand units consumed in December I have about thirty two million gallons or about an acre for about something a word thousand it's about the installing meters in the bulk of the system it's about two hundred customers I think and on eco there were five hundred and once you have the texting meter automatically you can set an account with a company that's called Ion Water and review what you use every day we we offered you a test for this and I don't believe it been widespread but that was my question for us we were able to catch a whole lot of leaks that you wouldn't have been able to see this would have saved the situation I don't know much about the water everybody was able to happen to be able to be and I'm wondering when is that going to be online for everybody we're working with customer service people they're getting up to speed on the spot where to be able to talk to people but what you see what you're able to see for the leak detection we're able to see as well for all the meters that are active so there are people checking for those daily detecting any of those vibrator blobs in our case it was knowing how to use what you wouldn't know and knowing which day to be away and knowing we didn't use one arm differently and playing one review it's very cool and we're getting ready this task getting trained with all the different instructions because it is something that you do want to make sure that we're getting people walking in for the first time that they're not having a bad experience because you want them to be able to utilize it there's the lead approximately 500 meters going into the felted area once that phase is complete then we'll do a big push because we'll have a little bit of a break between new meters I kind of wanted to wait until that was done that way we didn't have a bunch of people attempting not knowing because sometimes people don't even know that they're online we do get a day to read out the potential leaks that it counts for us when looking at past usage and usage and point for our period and that's when the office staff looks at those and gets the word out to house people or local check so we can see what's happening so we're doing some leakage reporting back to people this summer, Edge is wet I'm getting some heat it's a cool tool well, I want to say something about the flush you know, on the go was a flush for eons and we finally I can remember we finally got one area flushed or it's a dead end you cannot believe what the water looked like I think I showed you the picture of the bathtub with the yellow duck and the water was the same color as the duck flushing is imperative it needs to be done we're going to have good water I was so pleased that you're doing flushing the other thing it's great you got this million dollar grant for the groundwater sustainability thing it's terrific I used to go to those meetings at in Scotts Valley for the Santa Maria Basin people want to go it's fascinating it's very informative so anyway and thank you for what you did Bruce got the same picture can I point out that right over here is where the microphone is and I'm not catching what everybody is saying unless they come we need to go a little farther away this is my microphone I couldn't tell if there's one over here or over there right over here thank you that's not a podium a lecture sorry there were some stories in a couple of papers a couple of weeks ago they said that the district paid for 30 years for a grant but there's an $11,000 check on the bill for the month of December also there's another check from law firm Brettman & Tucker to the best of my knowledge the only thing Brettman & Tucker ever does for this is Charlie Hebert he's Hebert 1 I guess there's Hebert 2 now Hebert 1 has ground to a conclusion as I understand it then President Ratcliffe told us in August that the Hebert case had been settled so Brian Lee told us that he had started our own in July 31st so it's been more than 6 months and there's still a lot of payments to run in Tucker so I'm hoping this time right around $200,000 spent on the Hebert case Hebert 1 in January there was a lot of payments for that December for more than $5,000 in December there was a payment for exactly $5,000 that went to Charlene's attorney so that was the district's settlement of Hebert 1 with a $5,000 check written in December and it's unbelievable that the law firm even in January they're still charging more than $5,000 and I hope they're done but now that the Hebert 1 case is done I think it would be a good time to do a post mortem on that case the way all your privileges just go ahead and tell us what the case is all about what was it really about why did you spend $200,000 depending on the case that ultimately was settled and the district only picked a $5,000 deductible so the other $35,000 so why would you spend $200,000 over a five year period when the whole thing got settled with $5,000 for the district money I mean there's a level of obstinacy there just a level of pure obstinacy to the point of obduracy it wake up there's you know a business that's not a business life approach business people wouldn't do that in that case for a long time so I think it's time for a post mortem I think it failed maybe it failed because of Mark Thomas and he's gone now so that's great and maybe a lot fewer of these betters in the future but before I quite had a little of money and you know when you raised the budget for legal services and even said the president called me he said the hats so you think the hats are fine John the Souls I was I was kind of wondering when you talked about Paul Creek and we talked with Strauss I haven't heard anything lately about the full creek input for the idea of trying to find a way to get some of the water to walk along and I was just wondering if there's reports on that or maybe the next meeting any kind of updates or information on those items would be greatly appreciated engineering or do you want okay okay thank you anybody else I'd like to follow up on a question that Bob had about the flushing you answered the question how much what you didn't answer what we didn't talk about yet is what happens to the water that you flush my fear is it goes down the ground and if I am right is there any way of taking that water and reusing it even as recycled water and we go into a ground we need to do everything we can to save and use the water that we have I understand the need to flush in fact it's a regulatory requirement that we do flushing that we've spent over 3 years but irregardless that's a lot of water that's a lot of water that it's going down the drain and there's anything we can do to reuse and re-purpose that water we try to use when we do flush we try to do a surface water so that's water that's already going down it's not coming out of the water it's coming out of the stream sources we do our best management practice this is a deep flur and we make sure that we have all the requirements and state requirements that discharge back into the stream most so it's kind of digging out of one stream and putting it back into another so to speak but that's not quite as bad as pulling out an aquifer once you start flushing it's a continuous process you don't start to stop otherwise any type of sediment that you break reusing the main and start to flush out will travel throughout the main line you don't get it out through the fire line so you have to have a continuous line then we're going to all get the discharge it gets very cumbersome and very expensive for the amount of water unfortunately this time of year we'll probably be using about 50% of our water usually it's all surface water it's not quite as advanced but you'd have to have a lot of trucks it would be quite a 20 you can do it and then they have sort of equipment that you can take the water treat it, push it back into the main line but our system is not curving gut or not loop very difficult to do because one of those treatment trailers that they take out and you hook it to one fire rider you treat the water as it goes through and flushes then it goes back into another fire rider very difficult to do on our system because we don't have a typical we have to have loop systems we can push it on but the key is to try to use the most surface water as possible and we do it every year it's less water than triad when people took a lot of water because it hasn't done so well but now this year we bet it's 50% more water and most of that last year we had such an abundance of surface water it was also very low so that's the key to try to use this next year but are we sure that we exhausted every option that we could I understand that the cost is so big that water is being flushed but what about purplation pots are any way to try to use the water you got it and our valley look at the valley it's not set up to where we have fields where we discharge to our drainage goes right into streams the valley is difficult the flush and not have the water almost immediately go into the drainage channel the roadways are right along the stream I am free older free it's difficult I understand it's difficult but going into a potential drought if we could be a year from now wishing we had done something with that water and I'm just trying to be proactive I know it's hard I understand thank you you're welcome thank you that's what we do very well any other public comment on the reports I don't see any that gets us to written communications and information on the material which is impacted and we're ready to some interesting things in the air boxes there and the grant I'm in the local the same building we thought it was a meeting meeting of the town but what we're just going to do thank you