 that has gone through an evolution similar to what happened in the 80s right in the Yankees own backyard when Mike Francesa and Christopher Maddog Russo set the industry standard for sports talk radio. We had the pleasure of simulcasting their program for quite a while before they went their separate ways and right now Doggy joins Michael Kay. Well thanks a lot, I'm here with Christopher Russo at 1.1 half of Mike and the Maddog and Chris I know it doesn't seem like 20 years but this is the 20th anniversary of the beginning of yes and the reason I bring that up is that you and Mike Francesa were a big part of it and I just wanted to run this by you when you found out that your show was going to be simulcast what did you think? Well I think we kind of needed a little pick me up we never we had done about 13 years prior to yes and it was lose something different because they were going to pay us you know as my old boss said I'm the only guy in America who got paid for doing the same show twice so from that standpoint it was a it was a plus but you know it was a little intrusive you had to get used to it cameras in the studio you can't go in here and have your lunch remember we were on at one o'clock so you had to make sure you you know whether you ate your lunch earlier later you couldn't do it during a break because the camera always rolled so it was a it was a it was a little different feel to it and don't forget Mike and I always used to have our little fisticuffs and our little battles so if you were a key listener or a watcher you could tell when Mike and I weren't getting along because he wouldn't talk during the breaks so from that standpoint you could pick up on that but I'll tell you one thing about yes never Phillip Kelly and the guys one time they bought me I had lunch with John breakfast at the Greenwich Country Club because one of the guys from Atlanta came up and he just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting too rough with the Yankees and you know me I'm not a huge Yankee fan that's the only time in all the years that I was on yes six years that they ever say anything to me about just you know let's take it easy I'm not going crazy so give yes credit for that all those years ago now I don't know if you've heard this part of the story Chris but when they were putting together the network they needed programming and it was George Steinbrenner who came up to flip and said how about those two guys on the radio did you know it was George I had heard whispers about that flip but always told me that you know George like this is that true by the way is that an accurate story that you want yeah so if you got the big guy behind your back you're a if the big guy has your back you're in pretty good shape we enjoyed yes yes did a very good job we went to the studios one time in Stanford to do a couple of shows up there too that I recall flip never had you know again the one time and only it was flips called never had a problem with me and you know Mike used to love to run out of the studio so somebody had to be in the studio when we came in and out of the breaks returning because you can't have an empty studio when you came out of the breaks so the yes people always say where is Mike for crying out loud we need to both of you in there with the two cameras so I can tell you all sorts of stories about that scenario I used to have my big a ham and cheese on mayonnaise on a roll I couldn't eat it in the studio I look like a slob so I had to go run outside during the commercial breaks to get bites of my sandwich if it was late in the afternoon if I was eating say at one 30 that day but always very good to us one on the road we never Mike on the road and they would bring this little camera so if we're at a press box I remember the Yankee Malin's World Series when we were at the old Joe Robbie Stadium there which has now been refurbished but they had that little camera it was almost like a tootsie mall that they put outside the window frame to do the two of us with the talk show they did a lot of stuff to get us on the air on a day in day out basis and they went to all the remotes superballs I think probably went to the suit I have to go back and look they went to the Super Bowl soup they did a heck of a job they were very good to me and Mike never a problem I loved yes you know that I've told you that before I loved yes what I did now when