 Hey man, okay. Can everybody hear me okay? Alright, I have a lot to say tonight. Frankly, I don't really need notes on this topic, but it'll keep me on the rails a little bit, so I'm going to use notes anyway. The funny thing is when I was in the Philippines, I think the first year we went to preach to a bunch of police officers in Manila, and I had prepared to speak for about 30 minutes and the police chief said, well you can have these guys for like two hours if you want. So we did what we were going to do and then I turned to Romans 1 and preached to them as well. Here's the thing on Romans 1 and what we're going to talk about today. My goal tonight is to explain this because here's what I believe. I believe that a lot of people out there are very confused about this. When I say a lot of people out there, I mean a lot of unsaved, just normal people are very confused about what's happening in our society today. They're being told certain things, but it doesn't really match up to what, you know, that law in their heart tells them. And, you know, I work with normal people all the time and they're not saved, but they're just normal everyday unsaved people and they don't like what's going on and they're confused about a lot of the things that are going on in our society today. But here's the thing, the Bible has the answer for everything. So what I want to do, and a funny thing happened to me about three, four weeks ago is I met, I was out soul-winning in Sacramento and I met a lady and I was soul-winning with my partner and we walked up to this porch with these three children on the porch and I asked them if their mom was home so I could get permission to talk to these kids. They were from 12 to 14 years old and it turned out that the mom came out, sat on the porch with all the kids and this mom just had, it was one of the most fascinating conversations that I've had and I'll remember it, I think, for the rest of my life. This woman did not get saved and I knew after about three quarters of the way through the gospel that she was not going to get saved. But here's the thing, and we're going to teach you on Saturdays if you come soul-winning and on Sundays to not argue with people out soul-winning that we're not there to, you know, stand there and just debate people constantly back and forth but if someone is willing to listen to the word of God and they have legitimate questions we ought to sit there and answer their questions because that is sowing seeds in their heart and here we had a woman, I'm not going to talk about all her different questions but this was a woman who had a hard time believing in God because of certain things that she is seeing in the world today and her main thing that she was concerned about was that there was a convicted child molester who had been in prison and he was being released and put into her neighborhood wherever that was and she just kept bringing up to me even during the gospel presentation how could there be a God that would allow people like this to exist and would create people like this and so I went and I explained, I answered all of her questions and I want to use Mary I've changed her name for the sermon tonight but I want to use Mary in the conversation parts of the conversation I had with Mary as I go through Romans 1, the last half of Romans 1 I want you to understand the kinds of questions and the kinds of confusion that normal people have and I also want you to understand that the Bible has all of the answers for those questions now, last week we started off and we talked about Romans 1 we did the first half or a little bit more than half we talked about how everybody starts with two things every person on this planet is born into the same creation the things of God that we can all see and also the law is written in everyone's heart that's what they're born with they're given that at the starting line so what we're going to see is we move forward I want to go through Romans 1 starting in chapter or in verse number 21 and just and explain to you a process that is happening to someone and that can happen to someone that does happen to people so if we all start with the same two things the starting line is the same in Romans chapter 1 and verse 21 the Bible reads because that when they knew God they glorified Him not as God and either were thankful become vain in their imaginations and if you don't mind writing in your Bible I'm going to give you several words to underline in Romans 1 and vain would be one of them became vain in their imaginations and their foolish heart was darkened then of course professing themselves to be wise they became fools we talked about this last week these people first became prideful and if you read the Bible and you know about pride pride is the entrance gate to many different sins to many different sins in your life so these people first became vain and they became prideful and then if we start in verse 23 this will be the first verse of this next sermon the Bible reads it continues on and tells you what else happened and they changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like unto corruptible man into birds and to four-footed beasts and creeping things so they started taking away the glory from God and they started taking away God's glory and giving it to idols to things that were not God then in verse 24 we read wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves the word wherefore means because of in verse 24 it's basically saying because of this God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts continuing in verse 25 the Bible says who changed the truth of God into a lie and worshiped and served the creature more than their creator who has blessed forever amen they changed God's word they lied about God's word they're saying something that they're putting words in God's mouth or they're taking words out of God's mouth and then they refuse to worship God they worship and serve the creature more than the creator and then in verse 26 we see again the same as wherefore he says again whenever the Bible really wants to get something across to you they will say it the word of God will say it twice we're gonna hear it said more than twice here and it says for this cause God gave them up again God gave them up to vile affections vile meaning repulsive disgusting things that a normal person would look at and think is is horrid or horrible for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature the Bible continues in verse number 27 and likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust towards one another men with men working with that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompense meaning payment or compensation for something bad that you've done that recompense of their error which was me now Mary who I talked to at the doorstep kept asking me how why these people could even exist if there's a God if there's a good God why could people like this guy that's coming into her neighborhood even exist so I turned to I had already given her the gospel we had already talked about Bible versions and all these different things because she doubted the word of God as well the sidetrack here but she doubted the word of God because there's so many different Bible versions how do you know which one is true you see it's brilliant because you don't really have to get anyone to believe the false version all you have to do is throw out 150 versions out there and everyone's like oh which one's real you just have to create doubt because in order to get saved you have to believe the word of God now I read Mary what I just read you and Mary said to me well that's talking about homosexuals that's what she said to me and I said well yeah I didn't even mention the word homosexual to her she said that's talking about homosexuals and she said well they're born that way and I said well that's not what the Bible says the Bible says that it's a cause and effect it's a cause and effect everybody here who went even I went to public school we did cause and effect right we read a paragraph what was the cause you know Bob couldn't get out of bed in the morning so he lost his job the cause was Bob couldn't get out of bed the effect is he lost his job so what happened is these people basically they did these four they became prideful they took away glory from God they refused to worship God and God gave them up God gave them up it's a cause and effect and then if we read Romans 28 Romans 128 God says it again and even as they did not so as where for for this cause even as they did not like to retain God and their knowledge they wanted to just forget about God just completely turn on God God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not convenient you see Mary God didn't shoot didn't fire the first shot here these people completely turned on God they changed his word they lied about him they worship the creature more than the creator and he gave them up he turned his back on them they turned on him he turned on them that's how it went okay God commended his love toward us and while we were yet sinners Christ died for us God doesn't want anyone to go to hell but if you turn on God the Bible here is saying that if it gets bad enough he will give you over and he will turn on you now this idea of God rejecting people you say you know I don't believe you turn to Matthew 13 reprobate what does reprobate mean now you turn there Jeremiah 6.30 says reprobate silver shall men call them because the Lord hath rejected them that's first of all tells me that the word reprobate means rejected and second of all it tells me that God rejects certain people it happens the biggest example and clearest example I can see of this in the Bible is Pharaoh and you don't have to turn there I'm just going to read you a few different things but you remember when Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and they started the 10 plagues against Pharaoh to try to get him to release the children of Israel the first plague was water to blood the rivers turned to blood and Pharaoh the Bible says it this way and Pharaoh's heart grew hard and he did not heed them so he hardened his heart the second plague was frogs and the Bible quotes it this way the fourth plague was relief he hardened his heart the third plague was lice and the Bible quotes it this way Pharaoh's heart grew hard the fourth plague was flies and the Bible quotes it this way but Pharaoh hardened his heart at this time also by the time we get to the sixth plague of boils we start to see this phrase but the Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh the Lord hardened his heart in the eighth plague we see that same statement again but the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart Pharaoh hardened his heart he hardened his heart he hardened his heart and finally God's like you're done I hardened your heart now I'm going to make an example of you and I'm going to destroy you in front of the whole nation of Egypt I'm going to destroy the whole nation of Egypt in Matthew 13 we see how Jesus Jesus rejected the Pharisees and in Matthew 13 and verse number 10 we're going to read through to verse 15 just so we can get the full context this is Jesus we need to understand who Jesus really is if we want to understand the Bible in Matthew 13 starting in verse 10 the Bible says and the disciples came and said unto him why speakest thou unto them in parables he answered and said to them because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven but to them it is not given why why is it not given to them that's my question for whosoever hath to him shall be given he shall have more abundance whosoever hath not from him shall be taken away even that he hath therefore I speak to them in parables because they see see not and hearing they hear not neither do they understand they will build the prophecy of Asaius which sayeth by hearing they shall hear and not understand and seeing ye shall see and shall not perceive for this people's heart is waxed gross that's waxed hard towards the Lord and their ears are dull of hearing and their eyes they have closed lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and should understand with their heart and should be converted to heal them he's basically saying I've blinded them because I've already given up on them they've rejected me I've rejected them and the reason I'm speaking to you in parables is because I don't want them to get saved they're done that's what he said that's Jesus that's Jesus and the prophecy of Asaius is in Isaiah 6-8 we can see that in the Old Testament and the New Testament I am the Lord I change not also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send and who will go for us then I said here am I send me and he said go and tell this people hear ye indeed but understand not and see ye indeed but perceive not sound familiar make the heart of this people fat and make their ears heavy and shut their eyes lest they see with their eyes and understand with their heart and convert and be healed he's like I don't even want them to be healed he's like at this point shut their eyes make their heart fat make them happy so when I'm going to come and destroy them is what he says in verse 11 then said I Lord how long how long are you going to shut their eyes and he answered until the cities be wasted without inhabitant and the houses without man and the land be utterly desolate God rejects people he has consistently rejected people in the Bible this is not new just think about it think of the people in the promised land when the children of Israel crossed the Jordan River into the promised land they were to destroy everyone those people in Jericho those people in all those different nations they were done they worshipped other gods they had turned their back on God they had sacrificed children they had done all these horrible things God was done with them just wipe them all out that's what he said that's what they were to do so who are these people who are these people I want you to go back to verse number 26 verse number 26 I just first wanted you to understand that this idea that God can reject someone and that God doesn't just love everyone no matter what forever it's not in the Bible I want to go back to verse number 26 I want to look at a couple of different things for this cause God gave them up to vile affections even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature and likewise I want you to underline the word natural and then underline the word against nature you could basically say that means unnatural right and likewise also the men leaving the natural underline that use of the woman burned in their lust toward one another men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompense payment of their error which was meat and even as they did not like to retain God they came over to a reprobate mind rejected mind we just looked at that to do those things which are not convenient meaning not natural not convenient being filled with unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetous, maliciousness full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity, whisperers backbiter haters of God despiteful, proud boasters, inventors of evil things disobedient to parents without understanding, covenant breakers without natural affection underline natural again so Mary asked me at this point she said well I have a friend who is a lesbian she said and so I read her verses 29 through 31 and I said to I said to Mary I said do these sound like nice people and she said no and she was kind of passed I mean she was listening to me why I spent the time to talk to her and she was passed the idea that they were born this way and I showed her what the Bible said that they became this way because of what they did towards God and that God had given them up and I told Mary I said do these sound like nice people and she said no and I told Mary I'm sitting with Mary and her three kids, two kids and I think a friend of her kids and I said you keep your friend away from these kids and you know what that unsaved lady did that unsaved normal lady she didn't say a word for about 5 to 10 seconds she was thinking about what I said and then you know what she said she said yeah she said you're right you know why because she knows that that friend of hers is into things that she shouldn't be into and she knows that as soon as I cut through the garbage on TV that she's been taught and whatever pop culture is telling her today she knows that what I was reading her was true and she said to me she said you're right you're right and I told her and if that's all look if that's all my conversation with Mary got across is that Mary stops hanging out with people like that and keeps people like that away from her kids amen even if Mary I pray that Mary gets saved one day but Mary kept bringing up this guy okay this guy is going to get put in her neighborhood and I asked Mary before I moved on before I moved on I said Mary what do you think should happen to that guy and she said well he should be executed and so I kept reading for Mary and I said well Mary read let's look at verse number 32 and I read knowing the judgment of God that they which commit such things are worthy of death not only do the same but have pleasure in them that do them that's a hard saying but that's what the Bible says the Bible is very clear on this and a lot of people don't want to say this today turn to Leviticus 20 we're going to read it together I mean this is not a trivial subject in the Bible Leviticus chapter 20 go to verse number 13 Leviticus chapter 20 in verse number 13 the Bible reads if a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman both of them have committed an abomination they shall surely be put to death their blood shall be upon them you see Mary it's not God's fault that in the United States of America we don't follow his rules that is the answer of why they're putting that person in your neighborhood that's the answer is because we're not following God's rules here and for that reason there's a lot of people in danger it's that simple Mary and she got it clear as day just like that now you say that guy was a child molester not a homosexual and you can't equate the two well yeah I can remember how I had you underline natural and unnatural it's all the same folks it's all the same thing I took a training class I took a training class at my last job that I quit before I came here it was about a month ago I took a training class it was it was anti harassment or whatever and that's fine I don't harass anybody but this lady they brought in a consultant and this lady taught us that there is now and this is we'll talk about this in the public school sermon coming up in a few weeks but they're learning this in public school as well and you probably didn't all know this but there is now officially 102 different I don't even know what you call them identifications or identities or whatever you want to call them gender preferences or whatever it's all unnatural folks it's all stuff we're like and you know what the funny thing is I'm sitting in this group this room of 15 guys you know hard working guys that get up every morning and go and support their families all unsaved and the most worldly guy in the room we're all just sitting there like can we just get through this class and be done with this the most worldly guy in the room raises his hand and he's like whatever happened to a man and a woman he says what a guy that I worked with I mean he gets it right because she said next year there's probably going to be 150 and my kids teach me all the time about what all the different ones mean I was going to look them up and read a couple to you but you know you got to draw the line somewhere with this stuff and it's it's sick and it's disgusting and I don't want to be on the places that list that thing and I don't want these kids to even hear these words okay but here's the thing that lady was right there's 102 or 150 or 200 she was just missing two categories and one is natural and it's man and woman and just put all the other ones in the unnatural it's all the same thing because once you've been given over you have the capability to do anything that's unnatural like that it's all the same thing now it makes perfect sense are you confused now no it's natural and unnatural that's it I don't care how many you claim to be go to Leviticus 18 turn back to Leviticus 18 and look at verse number 23 it's all the same thing folks it's unnatural things these are not things that normal people struggle with or have the desire for they've been given over to it and Leviticus 18 verse number 23 the Bible reads neither shall thou lie with any beast to defile thyself with neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down there too it is confusion meaning perversion it's all the same thing natural or unnatural that just clears it all up and I explain that to Mary as well now Mary that's why it doesn't matter how weird it gets because we will still understand what's happening okay it's whatever weirdness they want but we need to take action to protect our families and to protect this church so now I want to give you some application on now that we understand this what does it mean for us what does it mean for us ours is a spiritual battle to start a political action committee to change the government okay ours is a spiritual battle and so what is our action plan what does it mean for us the first thing I want to give you is what it means for the unsaved people out there what is Romans 1 telling to the unsaved so here's the application part of the sermon what it's giving is to everyone both the saved and the unsaved it's a warning and to the unsaved it's like you know what you never know when it might be too late you never know personally if you're not saved you just never know you're going to get older you're not guaranteed another breath I'm not guaranteed another breath none of us are it should be a wake up call that you never know when it might be too late but the one thing that I want to bring up in honor of Mary is I could tell with Mary that this was a very personal situation for her and I didn't ask her any questions or anything like that but here's what I want to explain and what I explained to Mary okay and this is why it is so important that we learn and understand the God of the Bible okay because Mary would not have been the way she was and had the questions that she had about God if she understood who God was okay now Mary what I want to say in honor of her is that if you or someone that you know have been hurt by people like this this don't turn on God don't turn on God well that's easy to say right well let me introduce you to somebody okay turn to Luke chapter 17 this is the first thing I told Mary Luke chapter 17 in Luke chapter 17 we hear Jesus talking and in verse number one the Bible says then he said unto his disciples it is impossible but that offenses will come but woe unto him through whom they come offenses meaning you know someone committing a criminal offense that's the context of this and then Jesus says it would be better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck and he cast into the sea then that he should offend one of these little ones cause an offense or commit an offense against the child is what Jesus is saying Jesus was very and God is very protective of children in the Old Testament and Jesus was the same way in the New Testament now you say oh but Jesus is this guy who's always carrying a sheep and a cane around all the time that's the pictures of Jesus I grew up with I'm like why is he always carrying a sheep what sense does that even make you know he's carrying a sheep every church I go into he's got a sheep in a lamb he's carrying it around all the time I never hear that once in the Bible I'm like what in the world but let me explain to you who Jesus is okay go to Isaiah I want you to go to Isaiah 59 and I'm going to read for you Ephesians 6 13 through 17 is the whole armor of God the Bible is telling us and first I have to disclose that this particular comment was noticed by Garrett in a Bible study of ours at home so I want to give him intellectual credit for noticing this correlation in the Bible I'm like listen I'm preaching Romans 1 you've got to let me use it or you have to move out that's it but no it's very good I want you to see this in Ephesians 6 13 through 17 you're going to go to Isaiah 59 okay in Ephesians 6 it's talking about the whole armor of God wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God that you may be able to withstand in the evil day and having done all to stand God's telling us what to prepare ourselves with stand therefore having your Lord's gird about with truth and having on the breastplate of righteousness and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace above all taking the shield of faith whether all you be able to quench the fight wherewith you shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked and then take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit which is the word of God that's our weapons that's our armor that's our weapons now look at what Jesus is wearing in Isaiah chapter 59 the Bible says for he put on righteousness in the breastplate he still got the righteousness in the breastplate righteousness as a breastplate and the helmet of salvation he still has the helmet he has no shield probably doesn't need one and he put on the garments he has garments that I don't have right he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing it was clad with zeal as a cloak so he's got these garments he's got this clothing that I don't have go to Revelation chapter 19 it gets even better and I did show this to Mary in Revelation chapter 19 so we don't have these garments of vengeance but Jesus has them and look at what they look like in Revelation 19 starting in verse number 12 let's just get a description of Jesus it doesn't sound like he's holding a sheep to me his eyes were as flame of fire and on his head were many crowns and he had a name written that no man knew but he himself and he was closed with a vesture a garment dipped in blood and his name is called the word of God he's wearing garments of vengeance and they're dripping with blood after he's poured out his wrath and his vengeance you know the bible says in Romans 12 19 I'll just read it for you dearly beloved of vengeance not yourselves but rather give place under wrath the word is written vengeance is mine I will repay say it the Lord the Lord I told Mary that the Lord will repay with a perfect vengeance and a complete vengeance these people like that guy moving into her neighborhood or whoever she was thinking about when she was talking to me are going to burn in the lowest parts of hell and God is going to take care of this situation much more complete and better than we ever could even think of so we don't have to so Mary or anybody you don't have to carry that you don't have to carry that it's unfortunate that these people exist and that they are able to hurt people but you don't have to carry that because God will take care of it do not turn on God it is not his fault that we don't follow the rules he will clean up the mess and he will clean it up completely we just have to be patient and we have to have faith in that okay next to the saved to us what does that mean for us these people are out there they're probably out there right now these people are out there these unnatural haters of God so our action plan is this it's predator control that's our action plan okay so predator control it has two parts to it first of all good fences we will guard this church and we will not bring them all in we will not bring homos into this church we will not bring whatever other things are out there into this church anything unnatural is not coming into this church and we will guard that I will guard that with my life I will not be part of putting anybody's children anybody's wife in this church in danger and the men of this church and myself we will hold that line we will hold this doctrinal line as well I will not I know the pastor of this church will not tolerate sympathizers of these types of people and that's enough for us if you have questions or whatever that's different but if you're going to be pushing to bring these types of people into this church you are in the wrong church so we will hold that line and you know you want to talk about the family integrated church this is part of it I tell my kids all the time if you leave the cat food out the skunks are going to keep coming so you don't create an environment where these people can have access to children that's one of the reasons we're a family integrated church I encourage you as a culture in this church and especially as a culture in your home to keep an eye on your kids we do not send our kids to it is my job to protect my kids you know people have called me a helicopter parrot before hey I'm a quadcopter parrot I'm not messing around with this it's my job and I take it extremely seriously so we will not create an environment here watch your kids we don't do sleepovers at people's house there's a very short list of my parents and my wife's parents and honestly we just kind of watch our kids all the time we don't really we don't send our kids off to be taken care of by somebody else and it's a reason to home school not put your kid in daycare it ties into everything that we talked about last week we moved here and I haven't gone to this website since we moved here watchdog.us write it down go to familywatchdog.us and type in your address of your house and then have a nice day because it's bad it'll show you all the sex offenders the registered sex offenders in your neighborhood and it's like they're everywhere and it's not you can actually click on the little dots and you can see a picture of the person and you can see what they did and it's all I mean it's not all but I mean the vast majority is old men who have hurt children period and they're being put in these neighborhoods and you know that's why Mary's upset she should be upset and when you go to this website you're gonna be upset unless you live out in the country in the middle of nowhere and maybe you'll still be surprised every time I go there to check I'm surprised and you just have to make the decision that well I guess it's two blocks away because there's nowhere else to go where you're not it's crazy that we deal with this stuff here and the children I mean you know when we talk about the Catholic church and the Boy Scouts of America when the Boy Scouts of America made the decision to let the homosexual men be scout leaders ten years ago I told my wife I was like what in the world I'm like we're just gonna just wait ten years and look what's happening they're saying the Boy Scouts situation is worse than the Catholic church now it's crazy I mean who's thinking about these kids I mean hear about the Catholics they just cover it all up and all this garbage what about the kids don't their parents even care it's crazy it's unfathomable it's nuts so anyway let me just close here I mean this idea guys and gals that God loves everyone is false it's not even logical it doesn't make any sense remember when Jehu said to Jehoshaphat Sunday morning should this thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord it turned to Psalm 139 Psalm 139 I'll give everyone in the entire world here in the next three minutes Psalm 139 look at verse 21 and 22 so Jehu said should this thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord and then in Psalm 139 the Psalmist says do I not hate them oh Lord that hate thee and am I not grieved with those that rise up against thee I hate them with a perfect hatred I count them mine enemies if you think that you can love these wicked unnatural people and also love children at the same time you're a liar you're a liar you know if you're a farmer and you love coyotes as much as you love your lambs you're an idiot you don't love your lambs then you know if you love weeds and you also love wheat and the bank comes around and they're taking your farm away because you can't grow a crop and you're like wow I just can't get myself to pull these weeds it doesn't make any sense it's illogical the Bible is a logical book if you come to situations where you're like this is not logical guess who gave you your logic God you wrote it in your heart that's what we talked about the law written in your heart in the very first sermon in this series now let me characterize everybody in the whole world so we have the saved and the unsaved I don't know one 99, 98% of the entire world and then amongst the unsaved we have three categories of people we have the enemies of God we have our personal enemies and then we have our neighbor right? so you all are my brothers and sisters you're saved but amongst the unsaved you have your neighbor and hopefully that list is small personal enemies and I guess your enemies could actually be your brother and sister too hopefully not the Bible preaches against that but you have these three categories of unsaved people the only people that we are supposed to hate are the enemies of God so I want to point out that don't be this guy who's got this holster with two reprobate label makers in his pocket and he's just walking around and give the gospel to somebody one time and you're like reprobate don't be that guy because what God is trying to do here in Romans 1 for us he's trying to warn us he's trying to show us when you see these unnatural signs of these sick twisted people warning the reprobates don't bring them in your church keep them away from you he told us what we're supposed to do but we're not doing that but at least we can have that as a warning we're even supposed to love our enemies so we just need to be careful with the reprobate label maker is all I want to just say as a side note before we end here in 1st John 2 and the reason that I personally want to be careful with the reprobate label maker I'm not talking about unnatural people I'm talking about somebody that I don't like or somebody that didn't accept the gospel after I gave it to him the sixth time that's not to be reprobate in 1st John 2 11 the bible says that darkness had blinded his eyes so if I get really really mad at you and I decide personally because our emotions can take over sometimes I decide personally that you were never saved and you're a reprobate and I'm wrong that has some consequences on myself so the bible says that God will blind my eyes I'll be in darkness I don't want to go there use Romans 1 the way it's supposed to be used for us there's a warning that these people are out there how they got to be that way it's not God's fault this is why there's evil people in the world this is why Mary these people exist is because they turned on God and God turned on them now why don't you hear this more you don't hear it more because pastors today are either cowards or liars or both that's it and I don't even know what else to say it's right there in the bible this isn't like confusing prophecy or we got to go to the book of Ezekiel and try to figure out what it might be and all this it's like right there it's just right in your face and God would not make something like this confusing he would not make something like this confusing it makes perfect sense that God would not want these people in his church the gates of hell shall not prevail against this church what sense would it make God had us to bring in a bunch of people that were going to hurt people in this church it's not going to happen folks not here now look this is an age old philosophical debate this whole thing and I remember I want to just close with this I read a book several years ago it was on the civil war and in this book there was this colonel and he was having a conversation with this old gruff sergeant and the colonel was an idealist and he was a someone who wanted to see the good in everybody and the conversation was this the colonel was saying to the old man he was saying I believe there's a divine spark you know that's obviously not a biblical term but he said I believe that there's a divine spark in man and the old colonel said no he said no colonel he said you're a lovely man for thinking that you're an idealist there's no divine spark colonel he said I've seen men do things to each other that tell me and show me show me that there's many a man alive with no more value than a dead dog and you know the funny thing about that debate between those two men I wish I could have been here with the bible right between them because guess what they're both right the divine spark is your conscience that divine spark that that colonel was seeing was the law written in every man's heart some guy that just grew up in the middle of nowhere and didn't know the bible but there was he was trying to do right and trying to do the good things and this is what the colonel saw but then the old irish sergeant had seen men in Ireland in his homeland murdering each other and doing wicked horrible things to each other they're both right both of those types of people exist it just happened that the sergeant misinterpreted what he saw these people exist folks but there is I do believe that most people are disgusted by this and I do believe that the bible provides the answer for them when I walked away from Mary she got it she got it she's thinking about it I pray that she goes to church and learns more and somebody can give her the gospel again after she's let some of these things soak in because you know what she was pretty twisted up on a lot of things and sometimes you might have to give the gospel to somebody a few times I know husbands and wives who have had an unsaved spouse for over 10 years and one day the spouse just gets it and gets saved I personally know people like that so let's not give up on people but let's also not be we must be aware of what's out here and we must recognize it and the way we can recognize it is when you see these unnatural signs and these unnatural things and that's when we draw the line we draw the line here and we'll always have that line here let's bow our heads and have a word of prayer Heavenly Father we thank you for our word we thank you for just the how much sense the Bible makes Lord we thank you for all the wisdom and just you're not the author of confusion and your word just clarifies everything for you all we have to do is know it and read it and learn it and believe it and teach it to others Lord we thank you for this church continue to bless this ministry keep us all safe Lord in a wicked world we pray all this in the name of your son Jesus Christ Amen