 You said after you traveled around to some of the grips with us that you went into kind of a, was it like a dark phase? Uh, yeah, but I don't know what you'd call it, but it was the point of fear. And I found myself spinning down what seemed like the inside of a cone. And when I hit bottom, I knew in the back of my mind that I needed to go straight through that. Yeah, I put the brakes on, but no, no, I don't want to go there, I don't want to go there. And when I came out of that, all I realized was, um, I asked myself, what was I hanging onto? Why didn't I go through that? There is only love through there, it's only a letting go of thoughts of my mind. And just hanging onto the ego and the absolute terror of, um, literally letting go of the ego of thinking you're losing everything that you think we know, that I know in this world. Because I've made it, and obviously I value it. And I was just terrified of letting that go. So I needed to go over to the States and have David and the Messengers show me how to go straight through that. And that actually happened through a movie called The Peaceful Warrior. And at the point where he let his ego go when he was sitting on the ledge high up on a church tower. And he literally found himself talking to himself. And his ego was saying to him, look, you can't do this without me. Look what I've done for you all through your life. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm here for you. And he had realized at that time that he did not want this ego. And he just gave him a push and he could see him falling down to the ground. And that was the point at which I went straight through that. It brought me back to that point of fear. And after that it was gone. Not that the ego isn't still there. But right, it seems to be rather than it having control of me, I have control over it. It hasn't got the grip on me that it used to have. The fear of letting that go was incredible. I literally never knew what fear was until that particular moment. And I think what's so beautiful too is just the willingness that you had. Because I remember I was talking to Jason and he said, you know Rob keeps coming, Rob from Australia just keeps coming to mind over and over and over. And he said, if you want to sit with me and call Rob, I think you should call Rob. And I said, yeah, let's call Rob. So we called him on Skype. And then just with that little willingness, Rob just poured out exactly what he just shared. With the fear that he was having. That's that no private thoughts thing. Just the willingness to open up. Just the willingness to open up is the willingness to say I'm not going to protect or hide. It's like a burp that's got to come up. Some gas has got to come up. It's like, no, I'm going to burp. I don't really care how it sounds or how it looks. I'm not concerned about being embarrassed or whatever. I'm going to burp. And then also that willingness to join. I remember we all got on the Skype call and it was real quick. And I think Jason just said, I think you should be here. I think you should come. And Rob said, oh, okay then. And it was very quick as far as arranging a ticket and everything. It was just everything clicked into place. And then people just represent your own willingness. So when he came over, he was so willing and he shed a few pounds. Jason had him working in the woods like a lumberjack. But Jason was down there with you a lot of the time too. Side by side, working side by side, talking. A lot of people have this thing about spirituality. They think, I'll just go over and there'll be choirs of angels singing. And I'll just walk there and there'll be home, home. The cats will be going home. But people have all kinds of ideas and it's never what you expect. You just never know what you're going to get. And Rob came over with such willingness. Actually, it was an indication for me also of a signal of mine. Because it was right at that point of fear that I'd been through. And it was only two or three days after that that I got this email from Jason. Very quiet. They say, I'm just wondering what you're doing. What's going through your mind? There's a couple of projects over here that you think you might be interested in joining. We are not separate. It seems to, like the ego can make the spiritual journey into a struggle. It loves to make the spiritual journey into a struggle. It likes to make the idea of the spiritual journey very, very difficult. So that you'll cave in and throw in the towel and give up when the going gets rough. The ego even likes the idea of return to God. I was reading the Course one day and I went, wow. The ego even likes the idea of return to God so it can make the journey difficult. Enlightenment is not a change at all. Simply a recognition. We talked about a little tweak in the mind. That's pretty simple to recognize. You don't have to make enlightenment or salvation happen. It's just that little tweak of willingness to open to it. Isn't that wonderful? You don't even have to be concerned about return to God, to return to where you already are. Jesus says this is a journey without distance to a goal that has never changed. Great lines. He talks about the Holy Incident. Everyone's heard about the power of now. All the spiritual traditions talk about the present moment. The glory of the present moment. The gateway to eternity. Jesus calls it the Holy Incident. And then he has a beautiful line. He says, you cannot prepare for the Holy Incident without placing it in the future. Wow. I read that and I was like, whoa. I said, okay, what else do you have to say? He said, you can bring it into your awareness by desiring it. Oh, desiring it. Sounds a little bit like, love the Lord, thank God, with all their hearts. Just focus. That's how you return to the Kingdom of Heaven is by desiring it. It's so cool. It's so simple. In my sense, my desiring it, I seem to draw all these beautiful witnesses, all these smiles and hugs. We were talking about hugs. What a joy it is to go give a hug. What a job. Going around. Get off the plane. You get to give hugs. They take you to a place. They say, you're staying here and you give hugs. Well, these will be your hosts. Then you get to give hugs. Then the time comes for the gathering and people come in and you get to stand at the doorway and give hugs, give hugs. Smile. What a gift to be able to give the joy away. Just pour through, just pour through. Everyone knows how good it feels to give a hug and to receive one. And it's funny, all the different things that can preoccupy the mind in place of giving hugs. It's never what you expect. You just never know what you're going to get. But Rob came over with such willingness. Actually, it was an indication to me also of a singular mind because it was right at that point of fear that I'd been through. There was only two or three days after that that I got this email from Jason. Very quiet. They say, I'm just wondering what you're doing. What's going through your mind? We have a couple of projects over here that you might be interested in joining.