 What did you learn though, when you were in these rooms, when you were under your deal that you can carry into this independent stage of your career? Um, what I learned was like relationships, like honestly, like them relationships is the most important thing to any career. Because if you if you if you disrespect or sit on or not show up to something that one of these people doing this this and that for you doing, they can shut Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. You one of them guys man that to me, like I said, you you you started a wave, you was in a wave, you know, don't get me wrong. I seen everybody doing the singing thing. But when that hard away came, the way that it came during that time, it was when nobody rocking it like that though. Why? It was just that time. It was just a perfect time. It was I couldn't you couldn't make that up, bro. Like, I don't even know. No, man, how did they feel like I know you told me last time was hitting everybody knew it was hidden. But how did you how did I mean, it opened a lot of doors for you. It's a lot of those that it opened a lot of those that got closed by not me. Let's say that like the open doors that people try to manipulate in any clothes on me. And that's ultimately why I chose to remain just independent and reopen my own doors, rebuild my relationships with my own folk. I don't need nobody speaking for me talking about all he the next look no nigga, they know, you know, I'm here already solidified at this point. You did the right thing because really today society is it's more of an independent driven way that the music streams go to me anyway. You know, I'm saying don't get me wrong. Some things out there got a good deal cool, but you can make it on your own. You can, but but the misconception of being independent is you got to have all the tools though. That's that's it. I was gonna ask you like the BET awards coming up and I'm gonna let you finish that because people be like you cut him off. I wanted to hear what he had to say about that. I know that I got it. But the independent thing man going like the BET awards coming up, you know what I'm saying? Like, like to just show up there, you know, you know, the vibe, you have to have a budget for this, right? And you like almost show up and if you did and you decided to make a run on something independently, these are the things that you start back for yourself. You have to have a budget. You have to have a connect. You have to have somebody that's knowing somebody that get you in. Like, it ain't just a walk up. I'm me. The budget is out of your own pocket. Yeah, independent. But can't you get sponsors? You can. But that's what people don't know. Like you can definitely get private investors. You can get sponsors. You can get so you can actually get money without actually having a label and without your pocket. Exactly. And you just have to be able to present yourself properly and be able to represent that brand properly. Right. And I messed that up. Represent their brand probably represent yourself probably and know how to be in the room. Do you vote exactly? But what did you learn, though, when you were in these rooms, when you were under your deal, that you can carry into this independent stage of your career? What I learned was like relationships, like honestly, like them relationships is the most important thing to any career. Because if you if you if you disrespect or sit on or not show up to something that one of these people doing this, this and that for you doing, they can shut your shit down. Do you folks sit in the office for hours coming up with this marketing scheme, shit and the rollouts to how you doing this? And if you don't represent them well and show them the love and support they need, they can put you in the back like and I learned that. So from my personal relationship, I mean, I learned that from my personal experience. Now, when I go meet y'all or something, y'all can call me and I'm picking up. Hey, what's happening? Yeah, yeah, I push up. No pressure. Yeah, DJ. Hey, man, you'll do this on me. Hey, I will. Hey, bro, we doing the show for whatever day in such a such city. Can you come here? Yeah, I got you. You got me. We got each other. Keep going. Keep going. Money come to you. You know, everything you do. But I've had people who've been on the show who say that independence, it can only carry you so far, but you need a label to get with the distribution or to carry you even further. Again, it depends on who what artist you are, and it depends on what you're trying to do. Right? What are you trying to do? I'm just doing what I love. Like I ain't trying to. You're trying to get. If it happened, it happened. But that's not my that ain't my focal point. Like I ain't like, oh, I'm soon for the stars. I want to be Drake next year. Okay. No, I'm doing what I love. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing what give me peace of mind, what therapeutically helped me. I'm making good money doing it. My kids, you know, they, they with it. They like, yeah, that's my daddy. You know what I'm saying? They proud of me. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, whatever come with it, come with it. But I ain't that ain't like my I accomplish my goal. You know what I mean? I became a successful person. You know, that ain't normal from where I'm from. So I ain't trippin on the other shit. Like, yeah, I'm good. I'm grateful. Yeah, that