 all right good evening everyone it is 6 o'clock and I'll call the 15th regular Common Council meeting to order will the clerk state the court of the evening thank you mr. mayor in union there is strength thank you will the clerk call the roll all the person Ackley excused all the person Decker all the person Felde present all the person Flicky Paneski all the person Heidemann all the person Mitchell all the person Pirella all the person Raimi all the person Rust excused all the person Salazar there are eight present thank you and tonight before we do the Pledge of Allegiance which will be led by Cub Scout pack 3801 and 3804 so if the Cub Scouts want to come up here and lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance and once they get settled in we'll all stand up and if the parents want to come and take pictures you know all right everyone can please stand thank you so much for coming in all right first item on the agenda is approval of the minutes older Decker thank you mayor I moved to approve the minutes from the 14th regular council meeting held on October 16th 2023 and the third special council meeting held on October 23rd 2023 second moved and seconded items for discussion on the minutes seeing none all those in favor approval of the minutes state aye aye any objection all right minutes are approved city attorney confirmation of mayor's appointments so there are two appointments the mayor hereby submits the following appointments for your confirmation Melissa part to be considered for appointments of the mayor's international committee and Aubrey Lockwood to be considered for appointments of the mayor's international committee thank you older Decker thank you mayor I moved to confirm second moved and seconded any discussion on confirmation seeing none all those in favor this is a roll call vote Alder Felde I vote aye thank you and so we have seven eyes alder flicky paneski has stepped out all right that's approved city clerk anyone for public forum tonight no one this evening all right then we will jump into all right I always love it when there's an audience at a common council meeting so thank you everybody for coming out this evening first and foremost since this is no not a special city council meeting this is a regular common council meeting at first like to welcome our new city administrator to his first official city council meeting Casey Bradley so this is his first day of the third week so just drink it from that fire hose so we're really excited to have him here and just been diving in headfirst working with a lot of the staff and department heads as well as council members as well so baptism by fire for sure here but we're excited to have him so welcome Casey okay just a few general announcements as well so leaf collection is still ongoing throughout the city of Sheboygan and will be going on until November 15th so we do ask constituents that you please do not include yard waste sticks grass clippings into the leaf collection as well it messes with the machinery so please just leaves for leaf collection as well so DPW today announced that they'll be doing some traffic signal upgrades on Kohler Memorial Drive and Erie Avenue starting tomorrow the work should be hopefully done by November 10th but while this these construction practices or construction worker underway all these intersections will become four-way stop signs during the duration of the project as well so please be mindful when you're driving west on Erie and Kohler Memorial Drive also hey gov is now live so this is a program working with the clerk's office and our IT department and several other departments including DPW for one for streamlining our services and how we provide an issue permits and licenses throughout the city so this process is a lot quicker and can be done in a matter of minutes and can all be done and paid by credit card online so more information can be found out on the city's website as well also if you've been driving around town you've probably noticed some white fire hydrants so that is just primer we're priming the paint for the fire hydrants they're not staying white so please bear with bear with us as we put a new fresh paid account coat fresh coat of paint under fire hydrants throughout the town so with that we do have one proclamation that we'll be issuing tonight so we have Abby and Emily here from the housing coalition so come on up okay and brain's coming up to perfect so November is homelessness awareness month so the housing coalition is definitely a nonprofit partner that includes over 70 agencies throughout Sheboygan County that collaborates works diligently identifies gaps and services in terms of how we can support those that are unhoused throughout the Sheboygan County area so during so some of these warehouses whereas homelessness is a challenging and pressing issue that impacts individuals and families throughout the city of Sheboygan and it is our responsibility as a community to address these issues with empathy and determination and whereas homelessness is not only to pop defined by the absence of a place where one lives but is also a reflection of the complex social economic and systematic factors that require our collective attention and action whereas the month of November we recognize homelessness awareness month a time where our community comes together to increase awareness about homelessness it's root causes and the vital need for supportive services and housing solutions whereas the city of Sheboygan is committed to combating homelessness throughout with through collaboration with local shelters service providers advocates concerned citizens who are tirelessly every day to alleviate the challenges that are experiencing homelessness and during homelessness awareness months we reiterate our commitment to the ending of homelessness in the city of Sheboygan and ensuring every resident has access to safe and stable and affordable housing now whereas I Ryan Sorensen by the virtue vested in the authorities me is the mayor of the city to hear by proclaim November as homelessness awareness month so thank you to the housing coalition in your collaborative work and providing services identifying gaps providing funding for transportation needs and addressing the concerns throughout Sheboygan County so thank you Hi my name is Emily Cundey I'm the Sheboygan County Housing Coalition chair I've been the chair for a little bit this is Abby Reese she is the head of our advocacy committee and then we have Brayden over here who is a tireless commitment to all things housing and transportation related I just want to thank everybody who's here we are working really hard to end homelessness and increase access to housing within Sheboygan County homelessness awareness month is in November as you know November is a very cold month in Wisconsin and we have homeless people existing in our community right now living through this think about the blizzard on October 31st there were people sleeping outside when that occurred so we look at this we're working on programs like the after hours program so that nobody has to sleep on the street overnight we have a strong connection to the warming center having people have a place to go when the Salvation Army is full and there's nowhere else to go we're making sure that people have a safe place we're parlaying that into bigger things like a solving some of the issues around housing in our community we have a huge actually a very low vacancy rate meaning that there's not a lot of places for people to live even people with good credit people who don't have the barriers it's still difficult to find a safe affordable place to live in Sheboygan County not just the city of Sheboygan so we're working tirelessly on this effort every single day but homeless this awareness month you're going to see us at the parade so if you have winter wear and you're like man I've got a ton of hats mittens and scarves we're going to be in the parade come hand it out to us there we are also doing a hat mitten and scarf creation kit so there's many places about Sheboygan this month we're going to find yarn and knitting tools and crocheting tools which I'm going to be honest we have no idea how those work we hope you do there is an opportunity to donate five dollars to the after hours program to help people not stand the street overnight that's what we're asking for in order to grab a kit you can return the kits to pay it forward you can return the kits during the parade and we're really excited we're doing all sorts of other things this month look for our statistics on our Facebook page every day there's new information on the Sheboygan County Housing Coalition Facebook page so Abby is there anything that you'd like to share yes sir so as Emily said my name is let me sound a little bit a little bit shorter my name is Abby Reese I've been on the housing coalition gosh like six or seven years at this point and I just wanted to thank the city of Sheboygan for working so well with us I just have four different counties and the county of Sheboygan the city of Sheboygan they're probably the most present and the most collaborative city in all of four counties and all of the cities that I work in so Emily had mentioned the after hours program the city of Sheboygan Police Department takes a really big role in that and putting people into hotels when they're outside in the middle of the night so I just wanted to let everybody know how much I appreciate you thank you appreciate it and just a final comment I know everyone's not just here for mayoral announcements no no laugh tough crowd tonight but as so obviously we have one of the more keynote items on our agenda today will be the capital improvements budget as well as the operations budget for the city of Sheboygan so I just want to use this time to thank the diligent work and the questions council members have been asking throughout this process staff supervisors department head across the city for stepping up working hard on their budget getting creative in terms of how we can provide excellent service to the citizens of Sheboygan and also major major shout out to the the the coordinator of chaos the the champion of accounting the numbers wizard is our illustrious finance director Caitlyn Caitlyn Krieger who's been tremendous for the budget so I know that we'll have some questions later tonight as well so thank you all okay first item on the well not the first but next item on the agenda is setting the rules scheduled for the hearing this evening including such things limiting to the length of time given to the speaker so just reiterating the rules for the public hearing tonight so folks are here to talk on the budget we asked that sorry reading my notes that we asked that you keep your comments please state your name address and please keep your comments to three minutes so with that holder decker item number eight so I open moved open I moved to open the hearing second moved and seconded all those in favor of opening the hearings scheduled to 3-23 24 pursuit the chapter 65.9 on the laws of Wisconsin and notice published there is a scheduled hearing for this evening for the annual budget any taxpayer or resident of the government unit will have the opportunity but to be heard on the 20 24 proposed budget so it's been moved and seconded any discussion seeing none all those in favor state aye aye any objection the hearing is open is there anyone wishing to be heard all right come on up to this podium yep hi my name is Kathy Backey I am a page at the Meade library and I'm here with some of my co-workers we are very thankful we need an address to oh sorry 1521 Ohio Avenue thank you okay we're very thankful when we were part of the cross the board increased to $15 an hour last year we were quite shocked and disappointed this year when we were told we wouldn't be getting a cost to living raise not only that but for those of us who have been working there for less than five years it could be 8 to 10 years before getting a raise and looking at several sites that research living wages in Wisconsin the living wage is listed as 1526 low and as high as 1606 why are the three departments the library pages the library cleaners and the crossing guards being discriminated against please help us understand this about 40% of us are under the age of 35 several have worked at the library less than five years who would want to keep working somewhere that doesn't compensate people fairly and show appreciation for their hard work who would want to start a job where they won't get any kind of raise for eight to ten years how did this happen was this an oversight or worse was it known and that this would happen and nothing was done to address it in any case it needs to be remedied or some very capable and hardworking people look for work elsewhere there are plenty of jobs available in the area where people can start at $15 an hour and are eligible and given yearly raises once a decision decision is reached we would appreciate if someone from HR could have a meeting with us to discuss the new wage scale and so we can better understand it thanks for listening and looking into this for us thank you anyone else wishing to be heard anyone else I was waiting for you Jim name and address please my name is Jim van Akron my address is 432 Lincoln Avenue excuse me in Sheboygan I'm the chairperson of the Sheboygan a sustainable Sheboygan task force my comment about the budget is not so much on what you approve is how you implement the budget as you will see on your agenda this evening but an example of one of the things that we can do as a as a city is that you know this year and this year's budget the cost of oil and gasoline is a $1,249 and 360 cents if we transition to electric vehicles we could save probably 60% of those costs with electric vehicles so in your process over the next year and in the budgeting process for the next year 2025 we need to take these into consideration so I'm encouraging you as in your committees when when it comes to spending this money that you will look at these sorts of things that can make this city much more sustainable now and into the future thank you thank you Jim anyone else wishing to be heard Braden? Braden Schmidt 2118 North Third Street I just wanted to speak in favor of the inclusion of money for the update of the comprehensive plan and the zoning code as we talked about the number of different factors that go into homelessness and housing our zoning code is a huge part of that in terms of the structural factors that go into creating more housing and there was also just recently a bipartisan legislation passed at the state level that includes over $500 million in tax credits which are only available to cities that have updated made updated changes to their comprehensive plan and made their zoning code certain changes that allow it to be easier to to build there are a few line arms in there that they specifically call out but in that it is a requirement that you have updated your zoning code after January 1st of 2023 so including that in the budget will be fantastic to get that done sooner rather than later so we can start that work and be able to get those funds as well thank you Braden just quick clerical thing for city clerk as she's diligently taking notes can you say your address 2118 North Third Street thank you anyone else wishing to be heard anyone else wishing to be heard last call anyone wishing to be heard seeing no more elder Decker thank you mayor I move to close the hearing second moved and seconded all those in favor of closing the hearing state I objection right the hearings closed for this evening thank you everyone all right next to go to the items under the consent agenda Alder Decker thank you mayor move to receive and file all RO's receive all our C's and adopt all our resolutions and ordinances second moved and seconded any discussion on any of the items in the consent agenda holder flicky paneski thank you mr. mayor I am looking at number 12 about the one-way streets off of Indiana and I am remembering some time ago we suspended the rules to make them one way does this RO keep it that way permanently and second did the neighbors want it that way I guess first call to a director people sure this is actually reversing that now that the construction is nearing completion we're gonna have the streets go back to their original one-way designation because it's no longer needed because of the construction and detour that was necessary so they used to be one way and you made them two-way during construction and now they're going back to one way correct thank you thank you other items for discussion on the consent agenda Alder flicky paneski thank you it wasn't it was a report of officer okay seeing the more cues of the clerk will call the roll do the roll call yeah I'm unicode I'm sorry alright those items are approved next is report next next is report of officers item 17 RO number 62 23 24 submitted by the sustainability task force submitting this sustainable shabuigan vision statement to the task force request that this be reviewed and adopted by the Common Council as a guide for the creation and implementation of a sustainable action plan to ensure a sustainable future for shabuigan Alder Decker thank you mayor I moved to accept in file moved and seconded any discussion on this item seeing none this is a voice vote all those in favor state aye aye anyone opposed all right that's approved item 18 RO number 68 23 24 by the shabuigan transit Commission to whom was met on October 30th 2023 and discussed the commercial offered to purchase of lot 3 by Trinity Lutheran Church in school dated October 13th 2023 for the aforementioned amount holder Decker I moved to accept in file moved in second any discussion on this item Alder fliki Paneski thank you I noticed that there were two other items regarding that particular issue on our agenda and I have the advantage of having asked the city attorney this before but could he repeat the information that he talked to me about I can so this particular document is a report of officer from the transit Commission just simply indicating that they voted to accept the offer to purchase and recommending that you do the same there is a document later in the agenda in which the purchase and sale agreement will come before you and that document will be referred to committee at least that's the plan there is also a document that will be in front of you that as part of the sale of that particular property there is an alley that goes through there and we are vacating that alley currently that alley because it's on city property both sides is owned by the city so it would just revert back to the city or to the transit authority and so then when the sale goes through there won't be an alley through it that matter is going to lie over because there needs to be a hearing on that and that will happen in the coming weeks follow-up question Alder fliki Paneski thank you so as we vote to file these we aren't okaying that whole process we are just pushing it down the road right you're simply receiving the recommendation from the transit commission that you approve it but that's all you're doing is you're receiving it any action will take place at a later date thank you Alder Perla yeah you may have answered this question already but because we were made aware that it doesn't seem that there has been still an agreement between the two parties that was some somewhat conditional to the implementation of this agreement so you are saying that this agreement will not be implemented before it will come back to the council before being in effective and implemented yeah so I'll divide my answer to you in two parts because you added another sort of level to it but yes the answer is you're not actually voting tonight on the purchase and sale agreement that will happen at a later date now you did mention that there are two parties that are involved in sort of discussions over the use of the lot we're selling to one of those parties but there is a contingency in our offer that says in order for that offer to be complete and for the sale to go through there must be an agreement between those parties even if you were to approve that the offer to purchase tonight that contingency which you're not going to do but that contingency would not have been met and so the sale still would not go through so let's say two weeks from now you do approve the offer to purchase but the parties that are sort of engaged in that discussion have not come to an agreement yet the sale would not happen you would have approved an offer to purchase that only allows the sale to go through should all the contingencies been met and that contingency will still need to be met in order for the sale to happen. I have a follow-up question Mr. Bief. The result of those contingencies will be reflected in the agreement in other words the agreement between the parties which has to be conditional which is necessary for the agreement to be implemented with that agreement will be reflected somewhere and or in the agreement itself. So the purchase and sale agreement has a contingency in it which says that the sale will only go through once the parties the the church slash school and the wild center have a signed agreement about the use of the lot we as a city in selling the property we're not telling those parties this is what your agreement shall be we're allowing them to on their own determine what that agreement shall be merely saying that we will not complete the sale until such time as you have come to an agreement so that agreement will be between them but it will need to be provided to us in order for us to see that there is actually an agreement before the sale can take place. Very good thank you for clarifying. Any further discussion on this item? Seeing none this is a voice vote. Halls in favor? State aye. Any objection? That item is approved. Item number 19 will lay over. Items 20 through 24 will be referred to their respective committee. Now we'll jump to resolutions. Item number 25 resolution number 89 23 24 by elder persons Mitchell and Decker declaring an attempt to vacate and discontinue a public way pursuant to Wisconsin State Chat statute 66 point one zero zero three. Alder Mitchell. Thank you Mayor. I ask to suspend the rules. Are there any objections? Seeing none please proceed with your motion. I move to adapt the resolution. Moved and seconded. Any discussion on this item? Seeing no cues. This is a roll call vote. That's approved. Next resolution number 94 23 24 by elder persons Decker and Rust authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into contract with TRC Environmental Corporation for Geotechnical Investigation Services for the portion of the South Point Enterprise Campus at the West Southwest corner of Stall Road and South Taylor Drive. Alder Decker. I ask to suspend. Any objections? Seeing none. Alder Decker please proceed with your motion. I moved to adopt the resolution. Moved and seconded. Any discussion on this item? Seeing none. This is a roll call vote. Eight ayes. That item is approved. Items 27 through 32 will be referred to their respective committees. Next will be reports of committees. Item 33 RC number 119 23 24 by the committee of the whole to whom was referred was RO number 51 23 24 by city planning commission to whom was referred direct referral number 45 23 24 by the finance director submitting the capital improvements program request for the years 20 24 through 20 28. Alder Mitchell. Move to file the RO and adopt the attached amended capital improvements program. Is there a second? Second. Moved and seconded. Any discussion on this item? Seeing none. This is a roll call vote. Seven ayes. One no. That item is approved. Next is item RC number 1 18 23 24 by the committee the whole to whom is referred resolution number 73 23 24 by elder persons Mitchell and Flicky Panesky establishing the 20 24 budget appropriations in the 20 23 tax levy use for during the calendar year. Alder Mitchell. Thank you, Mayor. I move to receive the RC and adopt the substitute resolution. Moved and seconded. Any discussion on this item? Alder Heidemann. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion for a budget amendment to remove the funding for the change of the part time assistance to the attorney the full time and utilizing the savings decrease the amount of the fund balance usage for 2024. There's been a motion. Is there a second? Second. Moved and seconded. Any discussion on this item? All right. Seeing none on this amendment. This will be a roll call vote. One ayes have a noes. All right. That amendment fails. Back to the main motion. Any discussion? Holder Heidemann. Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Motion to amend the 2024 budget to include bus vouchers to assist the homeless individuals in getting the programs that they can be offered for help. Can you restate the motion? I would like to include money for well $20,000 for bus vouchers to assist the homeless individuals in getting to programs that can help them. Can you clarify where that money is coming from? Okay. I have a budget number number 101141-531100. City Administrator contracted services. An increase 101-499999. General fund equity applied. Okay. There's been a motion. Is there a second? Second. Moved and seconded. Any discussion on this item? Mayor. Alder Felde? Yes. I have concern about that. I mean not not giving the homeless the money but we're opening a can of worms for all of the charitable organizations in Sheboygan. I mean you can't pick and choose and I I am not going to vote for that. Sorry. All right. Thank you for those comments. Alder Salzar. So I have some questions. How is this so are we as the city implementing it or we're giving funds to an additional you listed off a bunch of numbers but I actually don't know what they go to. So could I get some clarification on the numbers or and the question of where the money is going. Alder Heidemann do you want to speak on your motion? Pardon me. Do you want to speak on your motion? Sure. The problem that we have in our community and homeless is a problem. Okay and one of their big problems is transportation. Okay so if you go to the if you're at the Salvation Army and you're leaving one of the first places they want to send you is a public library. Is that the place we're supposed to be taking care of our homeless? Wouldn't it be better off to be able to offer these individuals a bus token a pathway to get to a facility that actually help them as opposed to having them walk around the city not knowing where they're going to go and then taking a presidency wherever they want to. This program is meant to help the homeless. They will not be and I would stipulate that the vouchers are not going to be given to them to travel around the city. The vouchers would be given to them and they would be instructed that they have to go to pay it forward open door a program that is going to actually help them as opposed to them spending time at me public library. I had a discussion with the director of the library too and there's considerable expense to having the homeless there so why not make an effort especially in November to do something for our homeless people and this is this isn't a ton of money to do this and we and we can have during a year monitor to see how effective it actually is but again they have a problem getting around it's getting cold why not give them the opportunity to get a day pass or monthly pass or whatever it is to get them out of those shelters and into a place that they can they can receive some help. Thank you, Alder Heidelman. Finance director and then Alder Pirella and then Alder Flicky Paneski. Thank you just regarding the account question the accounts provided will give the city administrator the $20,000 within his budget that can then be utilized by passes from Metro shoreline Metro and handed out to different departments that may need them including the library for example. The offsetting revenue is a use of fund balance when Alder Heidelman brought it up and said that it could be a one-year program kind of to see how it helps and assist the homeless in the community that is why the fund balance is used for the one year if it were to be a program that would want to be continued in the future we would need to make sure it's built into the 2025 budget without that fund balance use. Thank you finance director I know that was a question for Alder Salazar so does she have a follow-up? Yeah so we as so you're seeing to follow up to what Alder Heidelman is sharing you see that we as the city would purchase these bus passes and then we would provide these to the employees that would be able to give them out to the homeless that within their venues or space for example like the meet public library or if they would come to the senior center or come to the police department you would see the staff handing them out and then they would have to implement directing them to exactly where they need to go like they have to go to the programs. Is that correct Alder Heidelman? So the staff would be in charge of implementing letting them know that they here is the pass and you must go to this program. Currently the vast majority of them right now are going actually going to the public library and and I did speak to the people at Salvation Army okay and they said they had a program years ago where they were giving out bus passes that program somehow some way went away. We provided the funding for this program? Yes well I don't I shouldn't say about the previous program that might have been funded by somebody else or it might have been funded by transit it might have been funded by somebody but I'm trying to now just get some money to make those bus passes available to people that really need them because they have a hard time getting around and it'll make that easier for them to get some help. Director of Transit do you know if that's a program that we funded? Okay okay we got a few cues so I apologize if I didn't get you in the correct order of your your buzz in so we got Alder Pirella, Flicky Panesky, Decker, Raimi. So Alder Pirella. Yes so that in principle of course I would be a completely in favor however I don't like to vote for something this is a program. I mean this is the implementation of this proposal would be an actual program and I I'm not in favor of approving something that I don't know how it will be implemented on the practical side. So my question is can we revisit this and so can we do we have the option of amending the budget to look in specifically into this proposal from from tonight. So my proposal in this case I would I'm not amending the this request but I am suggesting that we postpone it and we added as a item to discuss to to clarify what are the terms the terms of the implementation of such a program. So the short answer to your question is yes we can put this on a future agenda item or send it to a respective committee. Thank you. Alder Flicky Panesky. Thank you Mr. Mayor. I am familiar with housing and urban development funding and every year there is a certain dollar amount set aside for not-for-profits that the staff sits and prioritizes and not-for-profit organizations know that the dollars are available not everybody gets funded not everybody gets funded to the to the dollar amount that we would choose but I'm going to vote against this one because I think the appropriate place for these dollars is to go into that queue and be part of that protocol that works directly with nonprofits who help folks who need help. Thank you. Thank you. Alder Flicky Panesky. Alder Decker. Thank you Mayor. I guess I have a question for Derek again also. Do some of the nonprofits do this already? Is there some that do buy vouchers from Transit? Yeah we do have quite a few organizations that do that do purchase. I just want to kind of say one thing and relate it to this because of fairness and because of receiving federal funding and everything related to Title VI and all that good stuff really want to make sure we treat every organization every demographic equally and I know we had a conversation Alder Haydenman and I and you know basically comes down to the fact that we really can't be giving out like free fares for this demographic because we'd be discriminating against other demographics so it was important that there be some sort of funding source attached to it if you will. I also did say that you know we do partner with a lot of the organizations and depending upon them the volume that they do purchase from us I've we've done some in-kind matches 25-50% depending upon what they're purchasing but we do have quite a few partner organizations that we work with but we do generally require them to purchase X amount in order for us to kick in some sort of match. Any follow-up Alder Decker? I guess seeing as that I think at this particular point in time I think it would be unwise to do it this way I think we need to look further into this and I will not be supporting this. Thank you Alder Decker. Alder Raimi. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Well I definitely applaud you for bringing this to light and for trying to come up with the solution I just feel that I agree it is a program that requires a lot more fleshing out and that I would want to see why 20,000 what research has gone into that number how are we going to maintain this program all of those things that kind of go into a new program I would I would I would need to see more than that so again I think it's an important conversation for us to have but I would also not be supporting that today without the supportive information. Thank you Alder Raimi. Director Mink, sorry. She's how long have we worked together? I know. I was saying don't say. If I can just speak I threw out a kind of a estimated number so if we did monthly bus passes for example a year's worth is just around $600 so if you look at how many people you can help with that I think we were estimating around 40 for year-round transportation that was the general number that was under the purchase of 15 to 20 thousand dollars so if we did kick in some you know as a charitable donation with that you know we could do a little bit more so rough to say you know about 40 individuals. Thank you Director Mink. Anyone else want to speak on this amendment? Alright seeing no more queue. Oh Alder Heidemann. Thank you Mayor. Again what time would you I'm asking for some funds and I understand that I don't have a designed program and everything else but sometimes in government if you don't have the money nothing gets done. Okay so why not establish the money have the funds there get back develop the program however way you want to do it but at the end of the day we don't have to worry about where the money's coming from it's in the budget we have it so I urge you to support this because again November this is the month to do it so I ask for your support. Thank you Alder Heidemann. Seeing no more queues the clerk call the roll on this amendment. Alder Decker. Alder Feldy. Alder Flicky Pineski. Alder Heidemann. Alder Mitchell. Alder Pirella. Alder Ramey. Alder Salazar. Nay. Two aye's six no's. Alright that amendment does not pass back to the motion the main motion any other discussion on this item. Alder Heidemann. Okay I got another thing that's gonna might fly in and it might not so I make a motion to budget for a budget amendment to include the funds in the 24 or 2024 CIP for security cameras at various parks to help make sure that ordinances are being followed. Again just so that I have the numbers here is also I can read the numbers off when you want me to but I'm very supportive of pet friendly I want this program to work okay no doubt about it they've got signage but currently right now we have individuals in our community that are running their dogs at Indian Mon Park. There's a sign there that's fine but they're not power ordinances. I believe by them by installing cameras and not just at Indian Mon Park but I'm talking about Maywood also because they have concerns because I sit on that board where they have people that are taking their dogs coming into Maywood this this measure and one other organization one other place was Evergreen Park where pet friendly has every intention of making this an opportunity for more and more dog owners or pet owners to have their their pets out in the out in the public in our parks but again certain people aren't following the rules okay I think I think that in fact the number that I want is $20,000 to be put into a fund back to pet friendly so that we can establish the security cameras throughout our community to make sure that their programs work. So Alderheide event your motion is out of order the previous item was already the CIP and that was already approved so we're on the operations budget. Any other discussion on this item? Alright seeing no more queues please refer to your no the clerk will call the roll. Thank you. Alderperson Decker. Alderperson Feldy. Epstein. Alderperson Flicky Panesky. We're voting on the budget. On the budget. Okay thank you. Alderperson Heidemann. Alderperson Mitchell. Alderperson Pirella. Alderperson Raimi. Alderperson Salazar. Those are seven eyes one abstain. Alright that item is approved. Next item 35 RC number 126 23 24 by the Licensing Hearing and Public Safety Committee to whom was referred resolution number 80 23 24 by Alderperson Salazar and Feldy modifying the ambulance service building rate for the city of Sheboygan fire department. Alder Salazar. I move to receive the RC and adopt the resolution. Moved and seconded. Any discussion on this item? Alright seeing no queues this will be a Muni code vote. Hey guys. That item is approved. We've exhausted the agenda for this evening Alder Decker. Thank you mayor. I move to adjourn. Moved and seconded. All those in favor of adjourn. Stayed aye. Aye. We're adjourned at 652. Thanks everyone.