 officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity is addition I'm beneath Levine coming to you live from Tel Aviv these are the images the families of 85-year-old Jochebed Lifschitz and 80-year-old Nurit Cooper might never have imagined seeing two elderly Israeli hostages freed by Hamas overnight Jochebed has described being driven across the border on a motorcycle with two terrorists being taken into a spider web of tunnels under Gaza and being separated from her husband on Saturday the 7th of October at least 222 hostages were kidnapped by the terror group from southern Israel during the Hamas killing rampage which claimed the lives of more than 1400 people more than 5,400 others were wounded during the hour's long attacks at a music festival and at several kibbutzim Moshevim and bases near the Gaza border let's listen to more from Jochebed Lifschitz I've been through hell we never thought we'll reach such a state they went bazaar in archibauts put me on a motorcycle on the side and drove through the fields they blew up the fence the electronic fence that was built for two and a half billion dollars it did not to no avail masses stormed our homes hit people they kidnapped many they did not care about kidnapping elderly and children it was extremely painful they told us that they believe in the Quran and they will do us no harm and give us the same conditions that they have we started walking through the tunnels with a wet ground with extreme humidity we reached a big hole where some 25 kidnap were concentrated after two or three hours they separated from my kibbutz five people of near and they put them in a separate room their guards were next to us with a paramedic and and a doctor we laid there on mattresses they took care of the sanitary situation doctor came every two or three days check on us unimaginable trauma meanwhile Jochebed's daughter Sharon telling the media at Iqilov hospital she is a ray of light adding that their hearts are with the more than 200 hostages still there including her dad she described how she was happy to hear her mother was well treated but stresses that she does not know how other hostages are being treated because her mom only saw about 25 other hostages let's take a listen she's saying that many many people a swarm of people came through the fence the defense cost two and a half billion shadows and it didn't help even a little bit my mom is saying that she was taken on the back of a motorbike with her body with her legs on one side and a hide on another side that she was taken through the cloud fields with the men in front on one side and a man behind her and that while she was doing with being taken she was hit by sticks by Shabab yeah Shabab people until they reached the tunnels there they walked for a few kilometers on the wet ground there are a huge huge network of tunnels underneath it looks like a spider web an extraordinary account there earlier from Iqilov Hospital now we go to our correspondent Pia Stekelbach she joins us from southern Israel quite something to hear that account of Jocheved one of the hostages released overnight meanwhile Pia just a short while ago rocket sirens sounding in Gaza border communities what update can you share right now right Benita we saw sporadic incoming rocket alert sirens in a community see in southern Israel throughout the morning including the major cities of Ashkelon and to Belcheva and this comes after throughout the night is the Israeli military has been targeting targets in the Gaza Strip according to an IDF statement released this morning 400 targets were struck throughout the night we're talking about operational tunnels rocket launch positions and command centers there also several Hamas commanders are said to have been killed throughout the night now that comes after yesterday the Israeli Defense Minister Yav Galan said that they were now preparing for the next step in that war preparing for a multilateral operation on the ground in the air and also via scene that comes of course amid the expectation that the ground offensive that the Israeli security forces and politicians have been speaking about might be looming might begin any day reservists have been mobilized tens of thousands are also stationed along the border but the call hasn't been given yet and of course the belief is that this might have something to do with the hostage released for hostages have been released in total what we believe is also very much included is the negotiations coming from foreign governments now the first two hostages being American citizens we have heard from the American leadership that the release of all of the hostages is currently the main priority standing also above a ceasefire a ceasefire that has been demanded by humanitarian organizations such as the UN the US saying that that the release of the hostages comes first and that they are only after the shipping negotiations concerning a ceasefire this comes as the humanitarian situation in Gaza is intensifying is worsening now for the last three days we have been seeing that humanitarian aid deliveries were entering the Gaza Strip but we're only talking about 20 trucks and also less we're talking about medicine a water and food but sources on the ground are saying that what is the most needed one of the things that are needed the most is fuel that Israel has been saying it will not allow to enter Gaza for the concern that Hamas will take it but we've been hearing from humanitarian organizations and also hospitals that fuel is needed to run the generators the ambulances and also the desalination plans as water is quite short in Gaza right now however the possible ground offensive is the thing that is the focus on is here in Israel as we are still in in the dark in terms of when that will be happening of course every day any day now it can happen but in the end we're completely in the dark in terms of when and what kind of conditions are being set in terms of the hostages how many should be released before what efforts are going on behind the scenes we do know that efforts are going on clearly but there's not obviously for obvious reasons and a lot of information out about that Benita. Thank you so much we will be coming back to you for regular updates for now thank you to our correspondent Piesta Kobach in the south of Israel and from the south we now head to the north our correspondent Hamdas al-Hut is in northern Israel and Hamda just a short while ago another anti-tank missile fired towards the northern Israeli community this time to Shtullah seemingly from southern Lebanon it was a short while ago what updates can you share right now what is happening where you are right Benita in the last hour we've heard large explosions along the Lebanese border an indication that the cross border fire is continuing today overnight the Israeli military said that it struck several Hezbollah cells yesterday even a drone from Lebanese territory entering Israeli airspace the red cross on the Lebanese side says that they found two bodies we're still waiting for more information but we do know that several dozen combatants have been killed on the other side many Israeli soldiers have been killed civilians as well have been injured in the exchanges of fire that have been going on the Israeli military is saying it is prepared for a larger confrontation at the border though it doesn't want one the united states is also urging calm urging the the Israelis both privately and publicly to not preemptively strike larger targets that could cause a larger conflict here at the northern border but the Israeli military is speaking out to the officials are speaking out the defense minister and prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu who we heard from yesterday speaking directly to troops on the Gaza border telling them that if Hezbollah chooses to strike and create a larger conflict it will be the biggest mistake of their life benita thank you so much correspondent khamdes al-hood live from northern israel more to come from the north in the coming hours thank you khamdes and now for more insight we welcome to studio security analyst rafael yoroshalmi former senior intelligence officer in the idf rafael thank you so much for being here in studio the release of two hostages overnight two elderly Israeli women quite something to hear that account we heard it earlier on in the broadcast given your intelligence background talk to us about the strategy right now by the khamas terror group and what stood out for you that account the wet tunnels the way the hostages are being treated your thoughts so first of all i'd like to say that i find it immoral and counterproductive to interview a person that has gone through such a trauma so soon after her being repatriated to save ground and only starting to recover from the shock i don't think it's right to do so even though the world should know what's happening i mean you could have waited especially that you see very clearly towards the end of her interview that she's suffering from the stockholm syndrome after three or four days that a person is detained by the worst possible captor it will find some sympathy towards that captor because it will provide her this person with food with some comfort after the initial shock and slowly and the stockholm syndrome starts after three or four days this lady was detained for two weeks so she has developed the stockholm syndrome which is a fear and a mixture of fear and sympathy for people who took her so whatever she says should have been taken as a somebody with under a huge trauma in any case whatever intelligence she can give is still important she she will be also asked few questions by experts who know that even though she thought she doesn't know where she was and she doesn't think she can give information she can people are experts in asking questions and she might have seen little things here and there that might give some information to your point about the press conference in terms of speaking to the media right here exactly what you're saying but it is worth pointing out she was there with her daughter who also spoke and clearly the family had agreed for whatever their reasons to speak to the media there was a mistake as is a mistake i'm afraid to say i'm going to say it bluntly please do a mistake to play in the hands of the chamas the chamas is making a cynical use of the hostages one by one two by two at this space it will take a year to liberate them all and i'm sorry to say this is the wrong strategy it's everybody or nobody we should not accept liberation of two hostages or one hostage we have to ask demand everybody on all the hostages where you have heard there are negotiations now for 50 those who might have dual citizenship those who might have unknown blue eyes or brown eyes this is ridiculous we are now facing a very tough deal and we have to be tough we are now playing in the hand of the ramas and let me remind you that one of the things we can do strategically to liberate the hostages is to to enter in on the ground to start the offensive in such a violent way in such a dissuading way that the chamas will will be frightened we have we mustn't be frightened they must be frightened and the offensive might be actually one of the strategies to have the hostages liberated on the optimistic side of it all i have hope in the fact that the hostages will be well treated and spared for one reason only the high leaders and commanders of the chamas you are using them as their life insurance at the last protection would they see the israelis reach them they would then save their own skin by giving these hostages where they say let us go out to egypt mr sinwar and company would say let us live let us go out towards egypt would give you the hostages back this life insurance is the best insurance also for for the hostages i think so let's hope that's that's the deal because really the high commanders of the chamas do not give damn about the fighters they don't give a damn about the palestinian people everybody can get killed can get arrested they give only a damn about themselves and that's why these hostages are their life insurance and they're going to keep them and keep them well and we should not let them exploit us in such a cynical way to give us one here one there i mean the husbands of these ladies are still back there devastating so this is ridiculous can you imagine the worry honestly i don't think i would if my wife was still detained there i would refuse to go i would stay with her as a prisoner one doesn't know how separated they are if they've even seen each other i agree so many questions i'm just speaking of my personal reaction but also as a strategy it's everybody or nobody that's it we cannot discriminate between those who are easier to to free because they are american or french this is ridiculous they're all human beings they have to be treated the same and they have to be treated as a group rafael you're shall me stay with us it's something that we need to unpack because diplomatic efforts are also underway in jerusalem right now let's unpack that a little bit french president immanuel macron is the latest world leader to conduct a solidarity visit meeting just a short while ago with prime minister benjamin isaac who now earlier in the day he met with his counterpart president isaac herzog the israeli president reiterating israel is demanding the full and immediate release of all its citizens adding there is no difference between israeli citizens and someone who holds another citizenship this coming amidst reports that dozens of hostages with foreign citizenship could be released herzog also saying iran is playing with fire in lebanon macron saying the first objective should be the release of all hostages without any distinction let's listen to more of the comments from the israeli prime minister and french president earlier in the day in jerusalem today the international community is uniting in support of israel for hamas barbarism not only threatens the jews it threatens the middle east it threatens the region it threatens europe it threatens the world hamas is the test case of civilization against barbarism we want all the hostages to be liberated and all of them completely this is a priority for friends we all have to be liberated without any differences we are ready that the international coalition against israel in syria and iraq will also fight against hamas we want to build a coalition regional international to fight terrorism it's in israel interest and we are also threatened by these groups and news just in in the region rocket siren sounding right now across central and northern israel sirens alerting residents of incoming rocket fire in several parts across central and northern israel right now we are going to go to paris for more but i first want to check in with raffael urashel me your take on this latest barrage of rockets coming through just moments ago yes that came a couple of hours after the idea of spokesman warned the israeli population not to be complacent yes not to think that this is over and not to get into a routine even though schools have been reopened i see now that the the baryakov area and rishan lezion area where were attacked by these missiles that's an area where migrant children today went back to school for instance and people went back to work my daughter this morning said oh we have a traffic jam again how nice to have been a traffic jam again so we were warned not to go into a routine because the hamas is saving its stock of ammunition this time it seems to the salvo of honor but for later combat and for the the last fights and as you say the idea of saying earlier on in the day citizens shouldn't be complacent because potential rocket fire could still be coming and that's exactly what is happening siren sounding across central and northern parts of israel right now we will keep you updated so stay tuned right now we go to paris and we welcome eduardo quay independent journalist from the french capital so eduardo thank you very much for your time president immanuel macron saying as we heard just moments ago the first priority is securing the release of all hostages talk to us about the significance of this trip right now by the french president given the relationship between the two countries when paris was dealing with terror israel was there to help yes macron has been somewhat criticized for taking 18 days before visiting israel but he's there now the french policy has changed somewhat you know among the western countries france was the one that had a more pro-arab pro-palestinian policy that has now changed rather significantly since the attacks against israel but at the same time it is making perhaps france a little bit less influential in the region because france was able to speak to palestinians perhaps that more than other western european countries the palestinians also were not very happy when the french government banned all pro-palestinian demonstrations in france that was a ban that was turned down by the courts so palestinians can demonstrate now in french territory but it has also did not go down well with the palestinian so the french influence which is not great anyway in the region as you know is now even a less less significant than it used to be edward israel is adamant it will take out hamas from france's perspective is that a goal it can support we heard macron saying it's france's duty to fight against terrorism without any confusion without enlarging the conflict what do you see as france's perspective on the goal that israel is outlining right now i think france strongly supports israeli policy of taking hamas out out of commission so to speak at the same time today after the meeting with the president herso macron did say that israel should use a targeted that's his word targeted operations in in gas and it's not clear that this is the way israel is looking at this situation israel of course is looking at it as a matter of life and death macron is talking about targeting operations there may be a difference there in policy between the two countries but there is no question that france supports israel's right to defend itself i should point out that one of the big problems that macron but also past french presidents have is a huge muslim community in france there has been a very strong rise in antisemitic acts in france for the last several years but especially since the attack so it is a very strong palestinian muslim community here about six million or so and that that makes it very difficult for any french president thank you so much live from paris eduardo quay we will always appreciate having your insights no doubt we will be speaking in the coming hours again thank you very much for now eduardo quay live from paris thank you and still with me in studio security analyst raffael uruchelmi so it's been so interesting the number of western leaders coming in recent days in recent weeks to show their support some of them had had first hand accounts of what it means when rocket sirens are sounding and people need to rush to shelters talk to us about the message that is being sent right now and how it emboldens israel or is the israeli strategy right now helping with or without international support in other words will israel carry out its plan regardless of what is said by other nations and right now on our screens these are bombings happening in gaza live these are ideas strikes happening right now as we speak well there's your answer excellent we do what we have to do of course that we will especially with the americans we are so grateful for their strong support that it's fair enough that we should listen to their advice listen to their opinion it comes out from their heart and to help us and sometimes they have the wrong signals for instance the by the administration today said that israelis do not have a plan or that their plan is not feasible i think that even would that be true you don't say that especially when it's about your ally you just don't say it but anyway we do have a plan there is orders of advancing unit by unit that have been authorized by the headquarters of the idea there is a completely full fledged plan of attack that is just waiting for the green light of the the government now unless there is like a window of opportunity that should not be missed we can afford to wait a little longer what is a little longer i would say not more than two or three days for one simple reason you also have to understand two things first of all the israeli economy is at a standstill almost we cannot just sit and wait like that we are destroying solely our country economically second of all there is something that is more military it is the moral of the troops right now the fact that we wait is nerve-wracking for the ramas there's the waiting the waiting we're not coming it's nerve-wracking for them and they're in the tunnels all the time but it's also nerve-wracking for our soldiers our soldiers want to go they want to avenge our deaths they want to liberate our hostages and this frustration of the troops is filtering towards the generals but from the generals level the this quietness the lack of trust of the generals into the government right now is also filtering down to the soldiers and to the population this lack of trust and this this frustration of the soldiers give it another two or three days but become anger and anger might create chaos if not mutiny inside the troops i mean how long can you hold these people they've been taken away from their families from their job they're sitting there on the fence they're waiting there they're remembering all the time the horrors they've seen they want to go and act how long can you hold them you you will not be holding them especially that the generals are with them they want they want to start the the fight and with all due respect to the rest of the world israel will decide alone what it has to do for israel and our security rafael your show me former senior intelligence officer in the idf thank you very much for your insight as always and that is where we wrap up this edition of our breaking news coverage i'm venice levine until a bit of back again shortly stay tuned this is breaking news edition over 1300 people murdered and more than 3000 injured and the war with hamas continues we bring you firsthand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived and all the records of the atrocities by hamas follow us as israel fights terror from the south and north get the inside scoop on what's going on only on i-24 news here's edition i'm venice levine coming to you live from tel aviv these are the images the families of 85 year old jochéved liftshirts and 80 year old marit cooper might never have imagined seeing two elderly israeli hostages freed by hamas overnight jochéved has described being driven across the border on a motorcycle with two terrorists being taken into a spider web of tunnels under Gaza and being separated from her husband on saturday the 7th of october at least 222 hostages were kidnapped by the terror group from southern israel during the hamas killing rampage which claimed the lives of more than 1400 people more than 5400 others were wounded during the hour's long attacks at a music festival and at several kibbutzim moshavim and bases near the Gaza border let's listen to more from jochéved liftshirts i've been through hell we never thought we'll reach such a state they went berserk in arkibuts put me on a motorcycle on the side and drove through the fields they blew up the fence the electronic fence that was built for two and a half billion dollars it did not to no avail masses stormed our homes hit people they kidnapped many they did not care about kidnapping elderly and children it was extremely painful they told us that they believe in the Quran and they will do us no harm and give us the same conditions that they have we started walking through the tunnels with a wet ground with extreme humidity we reached a big hole where some 25 kidnapped were concentrated after two or three hours they separated from my kibbutz five people and they put them in a separate room their guards were next to us with a paramedic and a doctor we laid there on mattresses they took care of the sanitary situation and doctor came every two or three days to check on us unimaginable trauma meanwhile jochéved's daughter Sharon telling the media at iqilov hospital she is a ray of light adding that their hearts are with the more than 200 hostages still there including her dad she described how she was happy to hear her mother was well treated but stresses that she does not know how other hostages are being treated because her mom only saw about 25 other hostages let's take a listen she's saying that many many people a swarm of people came through the fence the defense cost two and a half billion shekels and it didn't help even a little bit my mom is saying that she was taken on the back of a motorbike with her body with her legs on one side and her head on another side that she was taken through the cloud fields with the men in front on one side and a man behind her and that while she was being taken she was hit by sticks by shabab shabab people until they reached the tunnel there they walked for a few kilometers on the wet ground there are a huge huge network of tunnels underneath it looks like a spider web an extraordinary account there earlier from Iqilov hospital now we go to our correspondent pia stekelbach she joins us from southern israel quite something to hear that account of Jochevet one of the hostages released overnight meanwhile pia just a short while ago rocket siren sounding in gaza border communities what update can you share right now right benita we saw sporadic incoming rocket alert sirens in community cn southern israel throughout the morning including the major cities of ashkelon and to belceva and this comes after throughout the night is the israeli military has been targeting targets in the gaza strip according to an idf statement released this morning 400 targets were struck throughout the night we're talking about operational tunnels rocket launch positions and command centers there also several hamas commanders are said to have been killed throughout the night now that comes after yesterday the israeli defense minister yov ganan said that they were now preparing for the next step in that war preparing for a multilateral operation on the ground in the air and also via scene that comes of course amid the expectation that the ground offensive that the israeli security forces and politicians have been speaking about might be looming might begin any day reservists have been mobilized tens of thousands are also stationed along the border but the call hasn't been given yet and of course the belief is that this might have something to do with the hostage release four hostages have been released in total what we believe is also very much included is the negotiations coming from foreign governments now the first two hostages being american citizens we have heard from the american leadership that the release of all of the hostages is currently the main priority standing also above a ceasefire a ceasefire that has been demanded by humanitarian organizations such as the u and the u is saying that that the release of the hostages comes first and that they are only after the shipping negotiations concerning a ceasefire this comes as the humanitarian situation in gaza is intensifying is worsening now for the last three days we have been seeing that humanitarian aid deliveries were entering the gaza strip but we're only talking about 20 trucks and also less we're talking about medicine a water and food but sources on the ground are saying that what is the most needed one of the things that are needed the most is fuel that israel has been saying it will not allow to enter gaza for the concern that hamas will take it but we've been hearing from humanitarian organizations and also hospitals that fuel is needed to run the generators the ambulances and also the desalination plans as water is quite short in gaza right now however the possible ground offensive is the thing that is the focus on is here in israel as we are still in in the dark in terms of when that will be happening of course every day any day now it can happen but in the end we're completely in the dark in terms of when and what kind of conditions are being said in terms of the hostages how many should be released before what efforts are going on behind the scenes we do know that efforts are going on clearly but there's not obviously for obvious reasons a lot of information out about that benita thank you so much we will be coming back to you for regular updates for now thank you to our correspondent pierce tackle back in the south of israel and from the south we now head to the north our correspondent khamda salhut is in northern israel and khamda just a short while ago another anti-tank missile fired towards the northern israeli community this time to stulla seemingly from southern lebanon it was a short while ago what updates can you share right now what is happening where you are right benita in the last hour we've heard large explosions along the lebanese border an indication that the cross border fire is continuing today overnight the israeli military said that it struck several hezbollah cells yesterday even a drone from lebanese territory entering israeli airspace the red cross on the lebanese side says that they found two bodies we're still waiting for more information but we do know that several dozen combatants have been killed on the other side many israeli soldiers have been killed civilians as well have been injured in the exchanges of fire that have been going on the israeli military is saying it is prepared for a larger confrontation at the border though it doesn't want one the united states is also urging calm urging the the israelis both privately and publicly to not preemptively strike larger targets that could cause a larger conflict here at the northern border but the israeli military is speaking out to the officials are speaking out the defense minister and prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu who we heard from yesterday speaking directly to troops on the Gaza border telling them that if hezbollah chooses to strike and create a larger conflict it will be the biggest mistake of their life benita thank you so much correspondent khamdesal hoot live from northern israel more to come from the north in the coming hours thank you khamdes and now for more insight we welcome to studio security analyst raffael yoroshalmi former senior intelligence officer in the idf raffael thank you so much for being here in studio the release of two hostages overnight two elderly israeli women quite something to hear that account we heard it earlier on in the broadcast given your intelligence background talk to us about the strategy right now by the khamas terror group and what stood out for you that account the wet tunnels the way the hostages are being treated your thoughts so first of all i'd like to say that i find it immoral and counterproductive to interview a person that has gone through such a trauma so soon after her being repatriated to save ground and only starting to recover from the shock i don't think it's right to do so even though the world should know what's happening i mean you could have waited especially that you see very clearly towards the end of her interview that she's suffering from the stockholm syndrome after three or four days that her person is detained by the worst possible captor it will find some sympathy towards that captor because it will provide her this person with food with some comfort after the initial shock and slowly and the stockholm syndrome starts after three or four days this lady was detained for two weeks so she has developed the stockholm syndrome which is a fear and a mixture of fear and sympathy for people who took her so whatever she says it should have been taken as somebody who is under a huge trauma in any case whatever intelligence she can give is still important she will be also asked few questions by experts who know that even though she thought she doesn't know where she was and she doesn't think she can give information she can people are experts in asking questions and she might have seen little things here and there that might give some information to your point about the press conference in terms of speaking to the media right here exactly what you're saying but it is worth pointing out she was there with her daughter who also spoke and clearly the family had agreed for whatever their reasons to speak to the media it was a mistake as is a mistake i'm afraid this i'm going to say it bluntly please do mistake to play in the hands of the chamas the chamas is making a cynical use of the hostages one by one two by two at this space it will take a year to liberate them all and i'm sorry to say this is the wrong strategy it's everybody or nobody we should not accept liberation of two hostages or one hostage we have to ask demand everybody or nobody all the hostages we have heard there are negotiations now for 50 those who might have dual citizenship those who might have unknown blue eyes or brown eyes this is ridiculous we we are now facing a very tough deal and we have to be tough we are now playing in the hand of the chamas and let me remind you that one of the things we can do strategically to liberate the hostages is to to enter in on the ground to start the offensive in such a violent way in such a dissuading way that the chamas will will be frightened we have we mustn't be frightened they must be frightened and the offensive might be actually one of the strategies to have the hostages liberated on the optimistic side of it all i have hope in the fact that the hostages will be well treated and spared for one reason only the high leaders and commanders of the chamas you are using them as their life insurance at the last protection would they see the israelis reach them they would then save their own skin by giving these hostages where they say let us go out to egypt mr sinwar and company would say let us live let us go out towards egypt would give you the hostages back this life insurance is the best insurance also for for the hostages i i think so let's hope that's that's the deal because really the high commanders of the chamas do not give a damn about the fighters they don't give a damn about the palestinian people everybody can get killed can get arrested they give only a damn about themselves and that's why these hostages are their life insurance and they're going to keep them and keep them well and we should not let them exploit us in such a cynical way to give us one here one there i mean the husbands of these ladies are still back there so this is ridiculous can you imagine honestly i don't think i would if my wife was still detained there i would refuse to go i would stay with her as a prisoner one doesn't know how separated they are if they even see each other so many questions i'm just speaking of my personal reaction but also as a strategy it's everybody or nobody that's it we cannot discriminate between those who are easier to to free because they are american or french this is ridiculous they're all human beings they have to be treated the same and they have to be treated as a group rafael you shall me stay with us it's something that we need to unpack because diplomatic efforts are also underway in jerusalem right now let's unpack that a little bit french president immanuel macron is the latest world leader to conduct a solidarity visit meeting just a short while ago with prime minister benjamin isaac who now earlier in the day he met with his counterpart president isaac herzog the israeli president reiterating israel is demanding the full and immediate release of all its citizens adding there is no difference between israeli citizens and someone who holds another citizenship this coming amidst reports that dozens of hostages with foreign citizenship could be released herzog also saying iran is playing with fire in lebanon macron saying the first objective should be the release of all hostages without any distinction let's listen to more of the comments from the israeli prime minister and french president earlier in the day in jerusalem today the international community is uniting in support of israel for hamas barbarism not only threatens the jews it threatens the middle east it threatens the region it threatens europe it threatens the world hamas is the test case of civilization against barbarism we want all the hostages to be liberated all of them completely this is a priority for france we all have to be liberated without any differences we are ready that international coalition against daesh in syria and iraq will also fight against hamas we want to build a coalition regional international to fight terrorism it's in israel interest and we are also threatened by these groups and news just in in the region rocket siren sounding right now across central and northern israel sirens alerting residents of incoming rocket fire in several parts across central and northern israel right now we are going to go to paris for more but i first want to check in with raffael urashelmi your take on this latest barrage of rockets coming through just moments ago yes that came a couple of hours after the idea of spokesman warned the israeli population not to be complacent yes not to think that this is over and not to get into a routine even though schools have been reopened i see now that the the bair yakov area and rishan lezion area where were attacked by these missiles that's an area where migrant children today went back to school for instance and people went back to work my daughter this morning said oh we have a traffic jam again how nice to have been a traffic jam again so we were warned not to go into a routine because the ramassi is saving its stock of ammunition this time it seems to the salvo of honor but for later combat and for the the last fights and as you say the idea of saying earlier on in the day citizens shouldn't be complacent because potential rocket fire could still be coming and that's exactly what is happening siren sounding across central and northern parts of israel right now we will keep you updated so stay tuned right now we go to paris and we welcome edwardo quay independent journalist from the french capital so edwardo thank you very much for your time president Emmanuel Macron saying as we heard just moments ago the first priority is securing the release of all hostages talk to us about the significance of this trip right now by the french president given the relationship between the two countries when paris was dealing with terror israel was there to help we are see my chron has been somewhat criticized for taking 18 days before visiting israel but he's there now the french policy has changed somewhat you know among the western countries france was the one that had a more pro-arab pro-palestinian policy that has now changed rather significantly since the attacks against israel but at the same time it is making perhaps france a little bit less influential in the region because france was able to speak to palestinians perhaps that more than other western european countries the palestinians also were not very happy when the french government abandoned all pro-palestinian demonstrations in france that was abandoned was turned down by the courts so palestinians can demonstrate now in french territory but it has also did not go down well with the palestinian so the french influence which is not great anyway in the region as you know is now even less less significant than it used to be edward israel is adamant it will take out hamas from france's perspective is that a goal it can support we heard macron saying it's france's duty to fight against terrorism without any confusion without enlarging the conflict what do you see as france's perspective on the goal that israel is outlining right now i think france strongly supports israeli policy of taking hamas out out of commission sort of speak at the same time today after the meeting with president herzog macron did say that israel should use a targeted that's his word a targeted operations in in gas and it's not clear that this is the way israel is looking at this situation israel of course is looking at it as a matter of life and death macron is talking about targeting operations there may be a difference there in policy between the two countries but there is no question that france supports israel's right to defend itself i should point out that one of the big problems that macron but also past french presidents have is a huge muslim community in france there has been a very strong rise in antisemitic acts in france for the last several years but especially since the attack so it is a very strong palestinian muslim community here about six million or so and that makes that makes it very difficult for any french president thank you so much live from paris edouardo quay we will always appreciate having your insights no doubt we will be speaking in the coming hours again thank you very much for now edouardo quay live from paris thank you and still with me in studio security analyst raffael uruchalmi so it's been so interesting the number of western leaders coming in recent days and recent weeks to show their support some of them had had first hand accounts of what it means when rocket sirens are sounding and people need to rush to shelters talk to us about the message that is being sent right now and how it emboldens israel or is the israeli strategy right now helping with or without international support in other words will israel carry out its plan regardless of what is said by other nations and right now on our screens these are bombings happening in gaza live these are idea strikes happening right now as we speak well there's your answer excellent we do what we have to do of course that we will especially with the americans we are so grateful for their strong support that it's fair enough that we should listen to their advice listen to their opinion there it comes out from their heart and to help us and sometimes they have the wrong signals for instance the by the administration today said that israelis do not have a plan or that their plan is not feasible i think that even would that be true you don't say that especially when it's about your ally you just don't say it but anyway we do have a plan there is orders of advancing unit by unit that have been authorized by the headquarters of the idef there is a completely full fledged plan of attack that is just waiting for the green light of the government now unless there is like a window of opportunity that should not be missed we can afford to wait a little longer what is a little longer i would say not more than two or three days for one simple reason you also have to understand two things first of all the israeli economy is at a standstill almost we cannot just sit and wait like that we are destroying slowly our country economically second of all there is something that is more military it is the moral of the troops right now the fact that we wait is nerve-wracking for the ramas there's the waiting the waiting we're not coming it's nerve-wracking for them and they're in the tunnels all the time but it's also nerve-wracking for our soldiers our soldiers want to go they want to avenge our deaths they want to liberate our hostages and this frustration of the troops is filtering towards the generals but from the generals level the this quietness the lack of trust of the generals into the government right now is also feeling down to the soldiers and to the population this lack of trust and this this frustration of the soldiers give it another two or three days but become anger and anger might create a chaos if not mutiny inside the troops i mean how long can you hold these people that they've been taken away from their families from their job they're sitting there on the fence they're waiting there they're remembering all the time the horrors they've seen they want to go and act how long can you hold them you will not be holding them especially that the generals are with them they want they want to start the the fight and with all due respect to the rest of the world the israel will decide alone what it has to do for israel and our security rafael you'll show me former senior intelligence officer in the idf thank you very much for your insight as always and that is where we wrap up this edition of our breaking news coverage i'm beniz hilovin intel abeve back again shortly stay tuned this is breaking news edition israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity this particular project with a gross capacity of 103.5 megawatt will be producing around 230 gigawatt hour of clean renewable energy per year reserve we have the right ingredients and we have to do the job and that if we have the right ingredients and we do the job that the vaquita can be protected this is breaking news edition i'm beniz hilovin live in tel aviv and our rolling coverage continues with a massive barrage of rockets sent from the gaza strip towards israeli territory once again siren sounding in major parts east of tel aviv just a short while ago including towns near bengurion airport and west bank settlements as well a direct hit in alfe minasher and israeli settlement on the western edge of the central west bank two barrages sent in under 15 minutes rocket sirens also sounding in bershiba in the south day 18 of the war for the latest let's go straight to our senior defense correspondent jonathan reggaev in the south moments ago another barrage of rockets towards bershiba also other parts petartikva netziana and that direct hit in alfe minasher what update can you share jonathan yes so one direct hit benita as you mentioned as far as we're understanding a one house has been hit damaged but there were people inside who did exactly what they should do they went to the protected shelter and they were not injured so there's damage but no casualties that's the only landfall we're hearing from this latest barrage and yesterday when when there were it was there were far less sirens all over the country when compared with previous days officials said we should not look at this as as a some sort of a pattern hamas still has plenty of rockets to fire and they have the ability to fire certainly to southern israel but also to a central israel and therefore not not to start thinking that at least as far as the home front the danger from hamas is gone the danger is still there and and we we got a notice for that just about a half hour ago where with those rockets fired as far as places here around the area of bengurion airport also berber berseva the city of berseva it was the second time that sirens sounded today as far as we're understanding no and no hits there no damage or casualties there i'm specifically in the city of askelon which so far has been the city most targeted during this war sirens did not sound here today though and no one here lives under the illusion that this will stay like this until the end of the day askelon has been the city that took the the biggest hit as far as rockets since the war began i have to say that comparing with derot the other big town in the gaza border area there's much more traffic here many many more things are open and we know that there's been quite an outcry among residents here that they're not evacuated as opposed to derot as opposed to the gaza border communities but let's remember askelon is a city of 160 000 people it is practically impossible to evacuate the entire city and i will move a bit so that you can see the street behind me there is a movement cars are driving of course it's not a regular day but there is traffic there is movement shops are open but on the other hand you can see the buildings there right behind me obviously they were built way before 1990 that's when those safe rooms secure rooms were built inside homes and in these buildings the protection is mainly the shelter downstairs but for people to run three or four floors downstairs even for young people not only for old people running downstairs in the 10 or 15 seconds that you have here in askelon it's difficult let's remember this is not Tel Aviv where we have some 90 seconds or so to make it to the protected shelter here the rockets are coming very quickly and people many people are demanding to be evacuated we know there's quite a lot of outcry but judging by what we see in the streets there's still many many people still here still in askelon and as you say the idea of saying earlier citizens should not be complacent anywhere in the country senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev and askelon we will be coming back to you in the coming hours now these are the images the families of 85 year old Jocheved Lifschitz and 80 year old Nurit Cooper might never have imagined seeing two elderly Israeli hostages freed by Hamas overnight Jocheved has described being driven across the border on a motorcycle with two terrorists being taken into a spider web of tunnels under Gaza as she put it and being separated from her husband on Saturday the 7th of October at least 222 hostages were kidnapped by the terror group from southern Israel during that Hamas killing rampage which claimed the lives of more than 1,400 people more than 5,400 were wounded during the hour's long attacks at a music festival and at several kibbutzim moshavim and bases near the Gaza border let's listen to more from Jocheved Lifschitz earlier in the day i've been through hell we never thought we'll reach such a state they went berserk in our kibbutz put me on a motorcycle on the side and drove through the fields they blew up the fence the electronic fence that was built for two and a half billion dollars it did not to no avail masses stormed our homes hit people they kidnapped many they did not care about kidnapping elderly and children it was extremely painful they told us that they believe in the Quran and they will do us no harm and give us the same conditions that they have we started walking through the tunnels with a wet ground with extreme humidity we reached a big hole where some 25 kidnapped were concentrated after two or three hours they separated from my kibbutz five people and they put them in a separate room their guards were next to us with a paramedic and a doctor we laid there on mattresses they took care of the sanitary situation a doctor came every two or three days to check on us so for more reaction to what we just heard we welcome to studio dr. Gaddi Hitman chair of the middle east department at areal university thank you very much for being here thank you for having me so many developments at once that rocket barrage we spoke about at the start of this broadcast clearly the iron dome missile defense system doing its job luckily for so many israelis right now i want to talk about that emotional account we just heard there from your chevet live shoots your reaction the Hamas strategy your thoughts to be honest i'm i'm quite divided on the one hand it's a tragic moment looking at the 85 years old women from kibbutz kidnapping on on a motorcycle and what she had been through for 18 days nearly 18 days walking through tunnels this is not for 85 years old it's not for anybody it's not for anybody that's the true seeing here seeing her here in israel at the hospital in Tel Aviv is of course very encouraging but we should not forget that this is a this is a cynical pictures because we should not forget that we still have 222 people there and morally speaking we have to do anything to bring them back home at the same time if we're looking on the strategic level we have to do anything to be prepared 100% even more than 100% for the military for the ground deployment to the Gaza Strip in order to do exactly what the israeli government promised us as civilians to do to eradicate Hamas so i'm divided certainly so many mixed emotions listening to that she separated from her husband who is still being held captive there's lots more to discuss please stay with us we are going to go though now to the north and our correspondent Robert Swift so Robert another anti-tank missile fired towards the northern Israeli community of Stuller earlier on in recent hours seemingly from southern Lebanon what update can you share what is the latest there that's correct fortunately there was no casualties involved in this event although it's worth noting that the community is itself right on the border easily within range of this type of weapon system so it's fortunate that there were no casualties this attack itself has been the only one of the day which considering how kinetic at times the northern border has been Israel will consider that fortunate but that doesn't mean that the border will remain quiet there has been events here since the start of the war and Israel's chief of staff had some comments for the residents of the northern communities let's take a listen to what he had to say about it we are strongly prepared and ready for the possibility of the expansion of the arenas near and far in light of the situation in the north we decided to evacuate many residents from their homes it's inconvenient but it's much safer we're working and will work to restore security to the northern border the goals of the war is defined for us by the Israeli government are the dissolution of Hamas the restoration of security to the residents of Israel and a supreme effort to free the hostages and return them home now the fact that it's been quiet here for most of the day with the exception of that one anti-tank attack is no guarantee that that quiet will remain the Israeli military will be remaining on high alert here but even if the quiet were to continue into the overnight that that in itself is not necessarily a sign of what the IDF can expect now the majority of the Israeli military's presence at the minute is around the Gaza Strip as the forces prepare for a potential insertion into the strip but it's very critical from the point of view of the Israeli military that they maintain a presence here whether it's quiet or otherwise so that they can you know avoid any surprises from Hezbollah who still remain active in the south of Lebanon correspondent Robert Swift live from northern Israel thank you very much for that update we'll be coming back to you of course in the coming hours thanks Rob and still with me in studio Dr. Gaddi Hitman and I want to pick up on the Hezbollah threat that Rob was just alluding to because President Isaac Herzog was speaking earlier on in the day with his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron is here in the region and he said that Iran is playing with fire in Lebanon so much concern on the security front you made mention of the potential ground invasion in the Gaza Strip between Hezbollah and if Hezbollah responds talk us through the risks how worried are you wow that's a that's a huge question and I'm not a prophet but historians usually say that they are very good in predicting the past but if I'm trying to analyze what Hezbollah did since October the 7th I think they're choosing very carefully the targets they are likely to hit it's it's basically military objectives and it's not in it's not a coincidence Iran is not ready to a whole war now with Israelis but at the same time if their proxies in the Middle East such as Hezbollah on the on the north and Hamas on the south can can can arrest us can harm can hit Israel as they did from October the 7th that that's okay we should also remember that Hassan Asala is a Lebanese and he can see he's considering a political internal political Lebanese consideration that means he wants to remain the the the strongest political power in the in the Lebanon political system and he doesn't want to see Lebanon being bombed from the air as it happened in 2006 I just want to remember you and our audience that in 2006 after Israel did what she did in in in Lebanon he he apologized for the Lebanese for his miscalculations so so as long as as Hezbollah is dealing with us or trying to to to drag us to any sort of local incidents I'm not so worried and even if we take the decision of going into to Gaza I think that the level of scale is in the north will be probably that what we want to see so far Dr. Gaddi Hitman thank you very much stay with us right now we're going to continue with our in-depth coverage Israel's Shin Bet security service and police force have released footage from the interrogation of Hamas terrorists who were captured following that deadly rampage on the 7th of October now the footage clearly shows how the Hamas operatives were given explicit instructions to kill and kidnap civilians including the elderly along with women and children Middle East correspondent Ariel Osaran brings us the horrific testimonies of these terrorists after the IDF shared with hundreds of foreign journalists bodycam videos and pictures from Hamas's October 7th onslaught on southern Israel the shin bet and Israeli police shared footage from interrogations of Hamas terrorists from Gaza who participated in a destruction and mass murder in it they describe in detail how they were ordered to kill and kidnap women and children one second the detainees said in their investigations that they received orders to kidnap as many people as they could specifically women and children and to kill the rest the she's a woman I saw it on TV, but I couldn't read it. The dog was barking in the street. I got scared. What did you do? I got scared of the police and the police. Yes. Who got scared? I got scared a lot. There were three cops, or something. Yes, I got scared. What did you do? I turned the light on. I turned the light on. The door was locked. The police came out of the door. They said there was a hole in the door. The cops closed the door. They told me to open the door. They didn't want me to get scared. They brought me to the police station. They put me in there. The cops ran away. I opened the door when I was little. I opened the door when I was little. They told me to open the door. Do you have any weapons? No. With many around the world denying the atrocities that were committed against innocent Israeli civilians, Israeli interrogators asked the detainees what Islam has to say about what they did. According to the Islamist religion, isn't it Islam? The Islamist religion says, come and kill me. No. No? Let me stop. You don't see the atrocities. You don't see the murder of civilians. Right. The religion forbids. The Prophet said, don't kill a woman, don't kill a child, don't kill someone. You're making them jealous. They're not believing. It's just that they're angry. The arrested Hamas terrorists point a blaming finger at their leadership, who seeks refuge abroad, while Gaza is laid to rubble. Who killed Hamas? We killed him. We killed him. Is it your idea to kill Hamas? I don't care. I'm not a Turkish or a Baitar. I'm talking in the name of the Muslims. They're calling me and they're asking me to go. They're calling me and they're asking me to go. They want to go to the whole country and destroy the Gaza Strip. Why destroy the Gaza Strip? You see, all these things are in the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip. I destroyed the Gaza Strip. Who destroyed it? They started it. And they started destroying the Gaza Strip. Clear instructions from Hamas to kidnap and kill Israeli civilians. Now, for more, we welcome Oded Rahav, founder and CEO of the International Movement, the Dead Sea Guardians, focused on saving the Dead Sea. Oded, thank you very much for joining us. Very difficult to listen to that account. We just heard Hamas giving clear instructions for its operatives to kill and kidnap civilians. But amongst those, amongst those civilians are Israelis actively involved in peace initiatives, actively involved in helping Palestinians. So let's start with Ofer Lipstein, the head of the Shahar Hanegov Council. He was killed by Hamas while defending his community. You personally worked with him. You've called him a hero. Tell us more about the initiatives Ofer was involved in to try and help Gazans. Yeah, so Ofer was an interesting person. He was only 50 years old, 50 years old, but he achieved so much in these 50 years of acting towards bringing hope to this region, mainly to the Palestinians. He was married to Vered. He had four boys. One of them, Mitzan, was killed at age 19. And Ofer pushed forward so many initiatives in this region because he was from Kfar-Haza, as this terrorist just mentioned. And who knows, maybe they were two, just one in front of the other. And some of these projects were outstanding because he wanted to create, for example, some kind of an industrial zone called Arazim Industrial Zone to create jobs for 10,000 Palestinians to bring healthcare to this region, to bring education, to bring universities from all over the world to help Palestinians. He pushed forward a solar panel, a renewable energy initiative to produce renewable energy to the whole of Gaza using solar panels in land that he allocated in his community, from his community. He pushed forward the plan to treat sewage. One third of Gaza, he actually, you know, he pushed forward the plan that will treat the sewage and to bring fresh water into Gaza. This was the person. Therefore, he was a true hero. And like him, I know so many other Israelis. Israelis eventually took the responsibility for the well-being and the prosperity of the Palestinians. There's not even one Hamas or Jihadic Islam, any one of those type that took care, even one inch for the Palestinians. And I'm afraid we lost him. I'm afraid we lost him and many others of such because, you know, it takes time to build another hero in this region, a lot of it. And as you say, as you say, your fear is one of many heroes. It's just tragic to think the number of people working to improve the lives of Palestinians who've been murdered or captured as well. Tell us more about the activists involved in some of the projects you work on, including saving the Dead Sea. And how do you see this impacting future initiatives around coexistence? What is the long-term impact here? Well, that's a good question. You see, there's so many Israelis and basically the whole story about like or fear is to take the air out of this classic kind of narrative, this toxic narrative about the Israelis and the Palestinians and, you know, the blindness all over. Even now we've heard it from Greta, you know. She actually is not familiar with the details and you've seen now pictures. This is Dr. Haran, you know. She established, she founded an organization called Fair Planet. Just imagine, Fair Planet. Wow. What an irony. And she was kidnapped. Fair Planet is dealing with small-hold farmers in this region and in Africa. We don't know nothing about it. She was kidnapped. Here you can see the photo of Oded. Again, Oded, Oded Lifsey. She's 83. His wife was released yesterday. He used to drive Palestinians with cancer to hospitals in Israel. An absolute peace activist. Peace activist. Yes, you deal with so much kindness. They knew him. Palestinians knew him. And here's the thing. The vast majority of the Palestinians are probably, you know, good people. Vivian. You see, Vivian Silver. She was a peace activist. She walked back and forth to Gaza. She led a group of women wage. They were all in favor of Palestinians. They, you know, they shared the same fence. We know nothing about them. 200 were kidnapped. It's absolutely devastating. And so you were asking me where the future lies. Listen, pessimism is a luxury that you cannot afford himself. And therefore, I must stay optimistic. And I think that only if we fiercely unite and focus on bringing some kind of prosperity on one hand to this land and on the other hand, eradicating the Islam, the radical terrorism. And this is something that should be understood all over the world. I fear that the blindness and the ignorance is something that is more frightening than what happened in this terrible, terrible October 7th when we lost so many friends, so many friends and relatives. This is beyond imagination. This is the worst ever since the Holocaust. And we're still in war. And people should understand when they put these sides of free Palestine, free Palestine, Palestine is free for many, many years. I've been in negotiations with Palestinians in terms of agriculture and water and renewable energy. We try to create a place where hope will be here for years and years and years. When I've established the Dead Sea Guardians, it's not only because I wanted the Dead Sea to revive and the River Jordan, because I know for a fact from a geostrategic and economic perspective that when this region will see hope, it will be stable. And this is what we need in this region, a stable region. And this could be done through understanding, through education, through tourism, through faith, through seeing eye and eye. It's not something from outside, someone from outside preaching us and telling us what to do. We know what to do. But we know that we are dealing with Satan. The Hamas is the worst ever enemy, not only for Israel. We apparently are now having, you know, we're in the forefront. Eventually, you see it all over. When I see what's going on in Europe and the U.S. and the campuses, I mean, are you out of your mind? I mean, where are your basic moral values? People, kids, grandmothers, young girls were raped, slaughtered. You saw the pictures. You saw the pictures. Now you have evidence from these murders. You saw how it goes. Do you still have a doubt? Honestly, do you still have a doubt? Do you doubt me as someone who works with Palestinians and know them by heart and wish them forever and ever prosperity? We are dealing with the worst, worst ever evilness that somehow I thought, you know, we will never encounter. The pain is so real. The pain is so real. And the nation is still in shock. Odeid Rakhay, founder and CEO of the International Movement, the Dead Sea Guardians. Thank you for speaking to us. And thank you for your work. The pain is real. It's going to take time. We so appreciate you speaking to us from Central Israel. And that is where we wrap up this edition of our breaking news coverage. Trauma, indeed. Thank you very much to Dr. Gadi Hitman as well for being here. We appreciate your insights on this day. Our coverage continues. We will keep speaking to people on the ground. Our reporters will keep updating you too. I'm Vanessa Levine in Tel Aviv. Back in the get, stays tuned. News edition, I'm Vanessa Levine, live in Tel Aviv. And our rolling coverage continues with a massive barrage of rockets sent from the Gaza Strip towards Israeli territory once again, rocket sirens sounding in major parts east of Tel Aviv just a short while ago, including towns near Ben Gurion Airport and West Bank settlements as well. A direct hit in Alfe Minasheh, an Israeli settlement on the western edge of the Central West Bank. Two barrages sent in under 15 minutes. Rocket sirens also sounding in Bershiba in the south. Day 18 of the war. For the latest, let's go straight to our senior defense correspondent, Jonathan Regev, in the south. Moments ago, another barrage of rockets towards Bershiba, also other parts, Petah Tikva, Netsiyana, and that direct hit in Alfe Minasheh. What update can you share, Jonathan? Yes, a direct hit, Benita, as you mentioned. As far as we're understanding, one house has been hit, damaged, but there were people inside who did exactly what they should do. They went to the protected shelter, and they were not injured, so there's damage, but no casualties. That's the only landfall we're hearing from this latest barrage. And yesterday, when there were, there were far less sirens all over the country when compared with previous days, officials said we should not look at this as some sort of a pattern. Hamas still has plenty of rockets to fire, and they have the ability to fire certainly to southern Israel, but also to central Israel. Therefore, not to start thinking that at least as far as the home front, the danger from Hamas is gone. The danger is still there, and we got a notice for that just about a half hour ago where those rockets fired as far as places around the area of Ben-Gurion Airport, also Bersheva, the city of Bersheva. It was the second time that sirens sounded today as far as we're understanding. No hits there, no damage or casualties there. I'm specifically in the city of Vashkelon, which so far has been the city most targeted during this war. Sirens did not sound here today, though no one here lives under the illusion that this will stay like this until the end of the day. Vashkelon has been the city that took the biggest hit as far as rockets since the war began. I have to say that comparing with Derot, the other big town in the Gaza border area, there's much more traffic here, many more things are open, and we know there's been quite an outcry among residents here that they're not evacuated as opposed to Derot, as opposed to the Gaza border communities. But let's remember, Vashkelon is a city of 160,000 people. It is practically impossible to evacuate the entire city, and I will move a bit so that you can see the street behind me. There is a movement, cars are driving, of course it's not a regular day, but there is traffic, there is movement, shops are open. But on the other hand, you can see the buildings there right behind me. Obviously they were built way before 1990. That's when those safe rooms, secure rooms were built inside homes. And in these buildings, the protection is mainly the shelter downstairs. But for people to run three or four floors downstairs, even for young people, not only for old people, running downstairs in the 10 or 15 seconds that you have here in Vashkelon is difficult. Let's remember this is not Tel Aviv, where we have some 90 seconds or so to make it to the protected shelter. Here the rockets are coming very quickly, and many people are demanding to be evacuated. We know there's quite a lot of outcry, but judging by what we see in the streets, there's still many, many people still here, still in Vashkelon. And as you say, the idea of saying earlier, citizens should not be complacent anywhere in the country. Senior Defence Correspondent Jonathan Regev and Vashkelon, we will be coming back to you in the coming hours. Now, these are the images. The families of 85-year-old Jochebed Liffschutz and 80-year-old Nurit Cooper might never have imagined seeing two elderly Israeli hostages freed by Hamas overnight. Jochebed has described being driven across the border on a motorcycle with two terrorists being taken into a spider web of tunnels under Gaza, as she put it, and being separated from her husband on Saturday. The 7th of October. At least 222 hostages were kidnapped by the terror group from southern Israel during that Hamas killing rampage, which claimed the lives of more than 1,400 people. More than 5,400 were wounded during the hours-long attacks at a music festival and at several kibbutzim, moshavim, and bases near the Gaza border. Let's listen to more from Jochebed Liffschutz earlier in the day. I've been through hell. We never thought we'll reach such a state. They went berserk in our kibbutz, put me on a motorcycle on the side, and drove through the fields. They blew up the fence, the electronic fence, that was built for $2.5 billion. It did not. To no avail. Masses stormed our homes, hit people. They kidnapped many. They did not care about kidnapping elderly and children. It was extremely painful. They told us that they believe in the Quran and they will do us no harm and give us the same conditions that they have. We started walking through the tunnels with a wet ground with extreme humidity. We reached a big hole where some 25 kidnapped were concentrated. After two or three hours, they separated from my kibbutz, five people, and they put them in a separate room. Their guards were next to us with a paramedic and a doctor. We laid there on mattresses. They took care of the sanitary situation. A doctor came every two or three days to check on us. So, for more reaction to what we just heard, we welcome to studio Dr. Gaddi Hitman, chair of the Middle East Department at Ariel University. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you for having me. So many developments at once. That rocket barrage we spoke about at the start of this broadcast, clearly the AYendo missile defense system doing its job, luckily, for so many Israelis right now. I want to talk about that emotional account we just heard there from Yorchevit Levschitz. Your reaction, the Hamas strategy, your thoughts? To be honest, I'm quite divided. On the one hand, it's a tragic moment. Looking at the 85-year-old women from Kibbutz kidnapping on a motorcycle and what she had been through for 18 days, nearly 18 days, walking through tunnels. This is not for 85-years-old. It's not for anybody. It's not for anybody. That's the truth. Seeing her here in Israel at Echilov Hospital in Tel Aviv is, of course, very encouraging. But we should not forget that this is a cynical picture because we should not forget that we still have 222 people there. And morally speaking, we have to do anything to bring them back home. At the same time, if we're looking on the strategic level, we have to do anything to be prepared 100%, even more than 100% for the military, for the ground deployment to the Gaza Strip in order to do exactly what the Israeli government promised us, civilians, to eradicate Hamas. So I'm divided. Certainly so many mixed emotions listening to that. Absolutely. She's separated from her husband, who is still being held captive. There's lots more to discuss. Please stay with us. We are going to go, though, now to the north and our correspondent, Robert Swift. Robert, another anti-tank missile fired towards the northern Israeli community of Stuller earlier on in recent hours, seemingly from southern Lebanon. What update can you share? What is the latest there? That's correct. Fortunately, there was no casualties involved in this event, although it's worth noting that the community is itself right on the border, easily within range of this type of weapon system, so it's fortunate that there were no casualties. This attack itself has been the only one of the day, which considering how kinetic at times the northern border has been, Israel will consider that fortunate. But that doesn't mean that the border will remain quiet. There has been events here since the start of the war, and Israel's chief of staff had some comments for the residents of the northern communities. Let's take a listen to what he had to say about it. We are strongly prepared and ready for the possibility of the expansion of the arenas near and far. In light of the situation in the north, we decided to evacuate many residents from their homes. It's inconvenient, but it's much safer. We're working and will work to restore security to the northern border. The goals of the war as defined for us by the Israeli government are the dissolution of Hamas, the restoration of security to the residents of Israel, and a supreme effort to free the hostages and return them home. Now, the fact that it's been quiet here for most of the day, with the exception of that one anti-tank attack, is no guarantee that that quiet will remain. The Israeli military will be remaining on high alert here, but even if the quiet were to continue into the overnight, that in itself is not necessarily a sign of what the IDF can expect. Now, the majority of the Israeli military's presence at the minute is around the Gaza Strip as the forces prepare for a potential insertion into the Strip. But it's very critical from the point of view of the Israeli military that they maintain a presence here, whether it's quiet or otherwise, so that they can avoid any surprises from Hezbollah who still remain active in the south of Lebanon. Correspondent Robert Swift, live from northern Israel. Thank you very much for that update. We'll be coming back to you, of course, in the coming hours. Thanks, Rob. And still with me in studio, Dr. Gaddi Hitman. And I want to pick up on the Hezbollah threat that Rob was just alluding to, because President Isaac Herzog was speaking earlier on in the day with his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron is here in the region. And he said that Iran is playing with fire in Lebanon. So much concern on the security front. You may mention of the potential ground invasion in the Gaza Strip between Hezbollah and if Hezbollah responds, talk us through the risks. How worried are you? Wow. That's a huge question. And I'm not a prophet. But historians usually say that they are very good in predicting the past. But if I'm trying to analyze what Hezbollah did since October the 7th, I think they are choosing very carefully the targets they are likely to hit. It's basically military objectives. And it's not a coincidence. Iran is not ready to a whole war now with the Israelis. But at the same time, if their proxies in the Middle East, such as Hezbollah on the north and Hamas on the south, can arrest us, can harm us, can hit Israel as they did from October the 7th, that's okay. We should also remember that Hassan Asala is a Lebanese and he is considering internal political Lebanese consideration. That means he wants to remain the strongest political power in the Lebanon political system and he doesn't want to see Lebanon being bombed from the air as happened in 2006. I just want to remember you and our audience that in 2006 after Israel did what she did in Lebanon, he apologized for the Lebanese for his miscalculations. So as long as Hezbollah is dealing with us or trying to drag us to any sort of local incidents, I'm not so worried. And even if we take the decision of going into Gaza, I think that the level of scares in the north will be probably what we see so far. Dr. Gaddi Hitman, thank you very much. Stay with us. Right now we're going to continue with our in-depth coverage. Israel's Shin Bet security service and police force have released footage from the interrogation of Hamas terrorists who were captured following that deadly rampage on the 7th of October. Now the footage clearly shows how the Hamas operatives were given explicit instructions to kill and kidnap civilians including the elderly, along with women and children. Middle East correspondent Ariel Osaran brings us the horrific testimonies of these terrorists. After the IDF shared with hundreds of foreign journalists, body cam videos and pictures from Hamas's October 7th onslaught on Southern Israel, the Shin Bet and Israeli police shared footage from interrogations of Hamas terrorists from Gaza who participated in a destruction and mass murder. In it, they describe in detail how they were ordered to kill and kidnap women and children. They have chosen Hamad Al-Hamad. One second. The detainees said in their investigations that they received orders to kidnap as many people as they could, specifically women and children, and to kill the rest. He said, what happened? They saw a man with a thousand dollars at home. He took all the people and said, who did they kidnap? They were in the neighborhood. What does the man do? He killed them. Who killed them? They went into the house. He stayed in a room and was locked in. He locked the door. There was a sound inside. When they entered the house, there was a man on the door. He was in his left hand, of course. He was inside the door. I think he was a complete family. We entered the first door, and then there was the woman. She laughed at the door's door. And the woman, when you saw her, what did you see on her? I saw her in the bathroom, but I couldn't find her. The dog came out of the street. What were you doing? I was cleaning the kitchen and the door. Yes. And where were you cleaning? I was cleaning a lot of things. She was playing, or what? I was surprised to see her cleaning. What were you doing in the kitchen? We were cleaning the door. We were cleaning the door. They closed the door on the door, and the door was locked. The door was closed, and the door was locked. The door was locked. They closed the door. They opened the door. They were afraid of the door. They brought the door to the door. They opened the door. They opened the door. They opened the small door. When someone came in, they opened the door. They told him to open the door. Do you have any weapons? No, I don't. With many around the world denying the atrocities that were committed against innocent Israeli civilians, Israeli interrogators asked the detainees what Islam has to say about what they did. According to the Islamic religion, isn't it the Islamic religion? The Islamic religion tells you to come and kill. No. No? Let me explain. You don't see the atrocities of the civilians, do you? The Islamic religion tells you to come and kill. You don't see the atrocities of the civilians, they don't understand. The Islamic religion tells you to come and kill. The arrested Hamas terrorists point a blaming finger at their leadership, who seeks refuge abroad while Gaza is laid to rubble. Why did the massacre take place? Who are you talking to? I'm from Hamas. I'm staying in the house, and they are looking for me. So you are thinking about me? Yes, I'm thinking about you. I'm a Turkish and I speak in the name of the Qasab. The Muslims are asking me to go and send me to the house. They are asking me to go and send them to the house. I want to stay in the house, and I'll stay there. Why should I stay there? All of these things in the house, I have been destroyed by the Gaza Strip. Who has destroyed it? I have started it, and I have been destroyed. Clear instructions from Hamas to kidnap and kill Israeli civilians. Now for more, we welcome Odeid Orahav, founder and CEO of the international movement The Dead Sea Guardians focused on saving the Dead Sea. Thank you very much for joining us. Very difficult to listen to that account. We just heard Hamas giving clear instructions for its operatives to kill and kidnap civilians. But amongst those civilians are Israelis actively involved in peace initiatives, actively involved in helping Palestinians. So let's start with Ofir Lipstein, the head of the Shahar Hanegov Council. He was killed by Hamas while defending his community. You personally worked with him. You've called him a hero. Tell us more about the initiatives Ofir was involved in to try and help Gazans. Yeah, so Ofir was an interesting person. He was only 50 years old, 50 years old, but he achieved so much in these 50 years of acting towards bringing hope to this region, mainly to the Palestinians. He was married to Vered. He had four boys. One of them, Nitzan, was killed. He was age 19. And Ofir pushed forward so many initiatives in this region because he was from Qfaza, as this terrorist just mentioned. And who knows, you know, maybe they were two, just one in front of the other. And some of these projects were outstanding because he wanted to create, for example, some kind of an industrial zone called Arazim Industrial Zone to create jobs for 10,000 Palestinians to bring healthcare to this region, to bring education, to bring universities from all over the world to help Palestinians. He pushed forward a solar panel, you know, a renewable energy initiative to produce renewable energy to the whole of Gaza using solar panels in land that he allocated in his community, from his community. He pushed forward the plan to treat sewage. One third of Gaza, he actually, you know, he pushed forward the plan that will treat the sewage and to bring fresh water into Gaza. This was the person. Therefore, he was a true hero. And like him, I know so many other Israelis. Israelis eventually took the responsibility for the well-being and the prosperity of the Palestinians. There's not even one Hamas or Jihadic Islam, any one of those type that took even one inch for the Palestinians. And I'm afraid we lost him. I'm afraid we lost him and many others of such because, you know, it takes time to build another hero in this region. And as you say, as you say, your fear is one of many heroes. It's just tragic to think the number of people working to improve the lives of Palestinians who've been murdered or captured as well. Tell us more about the activists involved in some of the projects you work on, including saving the Dead Sea. And how do you see this impacting future initiatives around coexistence? What is the long-term impact here? Well, that's a good question. You see, there's so many Israelis. And basically, the whole story about like of fear is to take the air out of this classic kind of narrative, this toxic narrative about the Israelis and the Palestinians and, you know, the blindness all over. Even now, we've heard it from Greta, you know. She actually is not familiar with the details. And you've seen our pictures. This is Dr. Haran. You know, she established, she founded an organization called Fair Planet. Just imagine Fair Planet. Wow. What an irony. And she was kidnapped. Fair Planet is dealing with small whole farmers in this region and in Africa. We don't know nothing about it. She was kidnapped. Here you can see the photo of Oded. Again, Oded lifts. She's 83. His wife was released yesterday. You have it. He used to drive Palestinians with cancer to hospitals in Israel. An absolute peace activist. Peace activist, yes. You deal with so much kindness. They knew him. Palestinians knew him. And here's the thing. The vast majority of the Palestinians are probably, you know, good people. Vivian. You see, Vivian Silver, she was a peace activist. She walked back and forth to Gaza. She led a group of women wage. They were all in favor of Palestinians. They, you know, they shared the same fence. We know nothing about them. 200 were kidnapped. It's absolutely devastating. And so you were asking me where, you know, where the future lies. Listen, pessimism is a luxury a Jew cannot afford himself. And therefore I must say, I must stay optimistic. And I think that only if we, you know, fiercely unite and focus on bringing some kind of prosperity on one hand to this land. And on the other hand, eradicating the Islam, the radical terrorism. And this is something that should be understood all over the world. I fear that the blindness and the ignorance is something that is more frightening than what happened in this terrible, terrible October 7th when we lost so many friends, so many friends and relatives. This is beyond imagination. This is the worst ever since the Holocaust. And we're still in war. And people should understand when they put these signs of free Palestine, free Palestine, Palestine is free for many, many years. I've been in negotiations with Palestinians in terms of agriculture and water and renewable energy. We thrive to create a place where hope will be here for years and years and years. When I've established the Dead Sea Guardians, it's not only because I wanted the Dead Sea to revive and the river join because I know for a fact from a geo-strategic and economic perspective that when this region will see hope, it will be stable. And this is what we need in this region, a stable region. And this could be done through understanding, through education, through tourism, through faith, through seeing eye and eye. You know, it's not something from outside, someone from outside preaching us and telling us what to do. We know what to do. But we know that we are dealing with Satan. The Hamas is the worst ever enemy, not only for Israel. We apparently are now having, you know, we're in the forefront. But eventually you see it all over. When I see what's going on in Europe and the U.S. and the campuses, I mean, are you out of your mind? I mean, where are your basic moral values? People, kids, grandmothers, young girls were raped, slaughtered. You saw the pictures. You saw the pictures. You saw the pictures. Now you have evidence from these murders. You saw how it goes. Do you still have a doubt? Honestly, do you still have a doubt? Do you doubt me as someone who works with Palestinians and know them by heart and wish them forever and ever prosperity? We are dealing with the worst, worst ever evilness that somehow I thought, you know, we will never encounter. The pain is so real. The pain is so real. And the nation is still in shock. Odeid Rahaa, founder and CEO of the International Movement, the Dead Sea Guardians, thank you for speaking to us. Thank you. And thank you for your work. The pain is real. It's going to take time. We so appreciate you speaking to us from Central Israel. Thank you so much. And that is where we wrap up this edition of our breaking news coverage. Trauma, indeed. Thank you very much to Dr. Gaddi Hitman as well for being here. We appreciate your insights on this day. Our coverage continues. We will keep speaking to people on the ground. Our reporters will keep updating you too. I'm Benita Levine in Tel Aviv. Back in the get stays two. News edition. I'm Benita Levine coming to you live from Tel Aviv. And our rolling coverage continues with a massive barrage of rockets sent from the Gaza Strip towards Israeli territory once again in recent hours. Sirens sounding in major parts east of Tel Aviv, including towns near Ben Gurion Airport and West Bank settlements. A direct hit in Al-Fey Manasheh, an Israeli settlement on the western edge of the central West Bank. No one was hurt. Two barrages sent in under 15 minutes. Rocket sirens also sounding in Beersheba in the south, day 18 of the war. With me in studio, Israeli-Palestinian relations expert, Colonel and reserves Grisha Yakubovich, the former head of the civilian department of Kurgat in the IDF and our senior diplomatic correspondent, Owen Altman. Thank you both for being here. Grisha, I want to start with you. Sirens sounding just in recent hours, very shortly after the IDF said earlier in the day two civilians don't be complacent. About rocket fire. At the same time, more and more speculation around when this ground invasion is going to happen. And as I'm speaking to you, breaking news, as we are talking, red alert sirens are sounding right now in West Herzliya. Parts of Tel Aviv, Ashkelon Southern Industrial Zone. If you're just joining us now, this is breaking news. Once again, sirens sounding in Tel Aviv. Our colleagues here in the newsroom going through to the shelter, rocket alert sirens, warning of incoming rocket fire from the Gaza Strip towards Tel Aviv and other parts of central Israel as well. Grisha. Welcome to Israel. This is our reality. Well, maybe in Gaza, they miss some water, some medicine, some food. There's one thing that there's enough is rockets. And according to Hamas strategy, as I mentioned, following two weeks, they are managing their fire. Okay, this is part of their strategy. They were sure that probably the war or the operation according to their understanding will last. A month, a month and a half, and then they will reach to a HODNA ceasefire. I'm going to interrupt you right now because we are hearing above our studio very loud interceptions. This is the iron dome missile defense system intercepting rockets above our studio. It sounds very loud. It's nine or 10 booms, but they may not be finished. Grisha, you're the expert. What are we hearing above our studio right now? It's above our heads. Okay, let's be more precise. We are lucky that we have this system that Israel invested millions of dollars during the last decade to develop such a system. I hope we will have new ones in the future, better ones, so we will be able to save lives. Siren sounding as we speak in Rishon, Litzion, West as well. Also, sirens in other parts of Herzliya and across central Israel. If you're just joining us now, rocket alert siren sounding right now. Many people, as we speak, running to shelter, people who have cell phones will have been given an alert to say enter a protected space. That's because rockets have been sent once again from the Gaza Strip towards Israeli civilian areas. Siren sounding in Tel Aviv, Jaffa Herzliya, Grisha Yakubovich, talk to us about the barrage that's happening right now. It's the third to hit the area in the last few hours. And when I say the area, I'm talking about East Tel Aviv earlier on, close to Ben-Gurion Airport. All of them intercepted. There was one hit in a settlement near the West Bank. Nobody was hurt. The Iron Dome Missile Defense System, Grisha, intercepting this barrage of rockets coming towards civilian territory, as we speak. You know, we can count the 18 days and we can see that any important visit actually was escorted by a warm welcome from Gaza. So we have the French president today here. He's about to meet Mahmoud Abbas in two hours in Ramallah. It's the third, I think, the third event of rockets from Gaza to the center. It's a welcome. He declared, he said, to Hezbollah not to join this war. He is part of the Western Coalition. This is a message to him, actually. We will continue fighting. Rishon Litzion, right now. Also another siren sounding above us in Tel Aviv, asking people to go to shelters now. Also in Farahabad, Safria as well, happening right now. Siren sounding across central parts of Israel as we speak, warning of incoming rocket fire from the Gaza Strip. Earlier on in the day, there was an advisory, so to speak, from the IDF, saying to civilians, don't be complacent. You can see on your screen, these are images from earlier of interceptions. The Iron Dome missile defense system intercepting rockets. Right now, we go to our senior defense correspondent, Jonathan Regive in the south. Jonathan, what update can you share right now? Another barrage of rockets coming towards central Israel. What's happening where you are right now? Yes, and also in the southern part of the city of Ashkelon, where we are, but here in the northern part of Ashkelon, we've not heard anything so far. Ashkelon did not have any sirens in this part of Ashkelon. Did not have any sirens so far today, but the residents here are not expecting this to last the entire day. Ashkelon, the city that took the most rockets since the war began. It's this thing that you mentioned before, officials stressing people not to be complacent. This is very important because we saw that it is this exact behavior which saved people earlier in the day, in al-Faiminashay, there was a direct hit and people were saved because they were in the protected shelter. And unfortunately, Hamas still has the ability to fire towards Israel, to fire towards central Israel. This is the second barrage today that makes it to central Israel. Also earlier in the day, cities like Be'er Sheva and Ashdod were targeted. Therefore, Hamas still has that ability and in the home front should still behave as it did in previous days, not to think that this is over, this is far from over. Jonathan, with increasing regularity, sirens have been happening since this war started. It's something that isn't new, sadly, to communities close to the border where you are here in Tel Aviv. There is a longer period of time, so to speak, for people to get to the shelter. Talk us through what it means for the communities who are still there. Of course, many have evacuated in recent days, but for the people who are still there, how much time do they have to get to safety? How much time do they have to get their loved ones to safety? I'll give you examples that have happened to me in places like Derot, you hear the landfall sometimes before you hear the siren. That's how close it is. That's how much time you have. It is said that in Derot you have 15 seconds. I've had many times in which the rockets made landfall way before 15 seconds. You see the interceptors going up to the air and only then you hear the rockets also here in Ashkelon. It's a little bit further away, so maybe you do have 15 seconds, but in the communities such as Derot and those closer to the Gaza border, those right on the border itself, which are now practically empty, there are seconds to go into shelter. Sometimes even those seconds are not there. Thank you so much. That's our senior Defence Correspondent Jonathan Regev live from Southern Israel. We will be coming back to you. Of course, stay safe and take care. I want to pick up with Owen Ultiman. This is something that is happening with increasing regularity. It's something that the IDF cautioned earlier in the day don't be complacent. The rocket fire isn't slowing down. The experts suggesting that there could be a bigger escalation if a ground invasion does in fact happen. What is the latest sentiment in terms of what is unfolding on the ground and how are Israelis feeling 18 days into this war? Well, obviously there are a lot of arenas, but ask for your question. Let's focus on the issue of the rockets. First of all, in terms of central Israel and Jerusalem and an emphasis on those, although also to some degree, to some degree, even in many parts of Southern Israel, maybe not the border communities themselves, but many parts of Southern Israel, the rate of rocket fire has slowed down over the last few days. There are fewer launches for a lot of rockets than we've heard from the IDF spokesperson earlier on today that this isn't necessarily an indication that Hamas can't fire rockets, but a decision by Hamas not to fire rockets, or at least not as many as it did in the initial days of the war, certainly the first day, the day of the massacre when there were 2,500 fired in a single day, simply unimaginable, although of course we all lived through it, but even... It's fire management, okay? They do it properly. They know exactly that they have a certain, let's say 2 months, 3 months that they need to manage to manage the fire. They will continue launching to the last second. Right, and I think it's understood here in Israel that stopping the rocket fire itself is not part of the objectives of the war, and that may sound strange to people overseas, right? But it's not considered a defeat the fact that Hamas is still able to fire, it's taken for granted. Again, the idea and the goal of this war, and this of course separates it dramatically from the mowing the lawn strategy of the past campaigns is, the idea is to end Hamas's control of the Gaza Strip, and once you do that, well at that point there would be no rocket fire. Again, that's the idea, but stopping the rocket fire over the course of the campaign, over the course of the war is not really a goal, and why not? Because at the end of the day, Benita, when you look at the wide picture that we're looking at, the sad reality is that the rockets are a bit of a sideshow to most Israelis, right? Only because of the Iron Dome itself. Only because of two things, because of the Iron Dome, of course, and because the communities that are most immediately affected, that have no time, in many cases, just literally seconds to get to a safe area, those communities have been evacuated, in some cases because the people in those communities were murdered, or kidnapped, or injured, and in some cases because people have been evacuated, there are still weaker populations in some of these places, and that basically has to be taken care of, not to mention hundreds of, or at least tens of thousands of soldiers, right? Amassed around the Gaza border. But that, of course, is one of the reasons why at this point it's a bit of a sideshow, and the real concerns are, of course, the expansion of the war to other fronts, whether it be in the north in Hezbollah or the Syrian border, the situation in the West Bank, and of course in Arab communities inside Israel, of course it's important to emphasize that there have been a lot of violence, right? Involving Israeli Arabs, and Arab communities, Palestinian communities inside Israel's border, so very important to emphasize that, but it's still something that people here are concerned about and are watching, so it's those arenas that I think are more of concern for people, and of course the issue of infiltration and the question of how many Israeli soldiers might be killed in an expanded campaign inside Gaza. Those are the issues Israelis I think are most concerned about in the context of life here, and because of the miracle, if you will, of the Iron Dome, of course it's not a miracle, it's because of the foresight and the ingenuity of Israel and of the United States under presidents of both parties and vast majorities of members of Congress, because of that cooperation, the Iron Dome is something that in many ways has neutralized the rocket threat, and is forced to solve the focus, our attention on other arenas and other images, the families of 85-year-old Jochebed Liftschitz and 80-year-old Narit Cooper might never have imagined seeing two elderly Israeli hostages freed by Hamas overnight. Jochebed has described being driven across the border on a motorcycle with two terrorists being taken into what she called a spider web of tunnels under Gaza and being separated from her husband on Saturday, the 7th of October. Now, at least 220 hostages were kidnapped by the terror group from southern Israel during the Hamas killing rampage, which claimed the lives of more than 1,400 people, more than 5,400 were wounded during the hours-long attacks at that music festival and several Kibbutzim, Moshebim and bases near the Gaza border. Let's listen to more from Jochebed Liftschitz earlier on in the video. I've been through hell. We never thought we'll reach such a state. They went azerk in Kibbutz. Putmiyona motorcycle on the side and drove through the fields. They blew up the electronic fence that was built for $2.5 billion. It did not to no avail. Masses stormed our homes, hit people. They kidnapped many. They did not care about kidnapping elderly and children. It was extremely painful. They told us that they believe in the Quran and they will do us no harm and give us the same conditions that they have. We started walking through the tunnels with a wet ground with extreme humidity. We reached a big hole where some 25 kidnapped were concentrated. After two or three hours they separated from my Kibbutz. Five people and they put them in a separate room. Their guards were next to us with a paramedic and a doctor. We laid there on mattresses. They took care of the sanitary situation and the doctor came every two or three days to check on us. So many emotions listening to that. So many questions as well right now though. Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen is about to address the UN Security Council about this Hamas terror onslaught on the 7th of October and is wanting support to try and pressure Hamas to release the more than 200 hostages still being held in Gaza. Our senior US correspondent Mike Wagenheim is at the UN in New York and Mike the global spotlight on Israel's Foreign Minister soon. UN Chief Antonio Guterres up first. Top of mind for Israel freeing those hostages still held by Hamas. Let's talk about what's happening at the UN. That's right, Foreign Minister Cohen being accompanied here in New York around the UN building by the families of several of the hostages that are being held right now by Hamas Day. Those families are meeting separately today with Secretary General Antonio Guterres to also meet later today with New York City Mayor Eric Adams and members of the American Jewish community in New York later on to be a focal point of Minister Cohen's speech coming up in about a half hour's time here in New York City. This is a high level Security Council meeting, ministerial level Tony Blinken, the US Secretary of State is here, Foreign Ministers as well from Saudi Arabia, from Egypt, from Jordan, from several European countries including France and Germany to talk about this high intensity conflict here between Israel and Hamas. The US has floated an amended draft resolution that will make it through the Security Council that mentions humanitarian pauses. There's been a lot of negotiation on exactly what that language will entail no clear indication yet of when the US will put it up for a vote. Meanwhile, in terms of those hostages we've had tremendous support outside the UN, New Yorkers gathering in support of those hostages and their families stretching for blocks down the first avenue here outside of the United Nations. We spoke with one of those who came out for the rally earlier on this morning let's give it a listen. I'm trying to get the message first of two fold. First of all we're here to support the families of the hostages who are in New York and I'm here standing in front of the United Nations because I think the plea is for the whole world for all our world representatives I guess and I'm here to just have every Israeli know that they're not alone, that there are so many people in the world that are supporting and fighting this fight. Benita this issue here this war between Israel and Hamas will take up a lot of oxygen here at the United Nations this week in addition to the Security Council meeting today there'll be an emergency session of the General Assembly that was called for on Thursday morning that will probably stretch into Friday due to all the countries that wish to speak. Also the US which vetoed the Security Council resolution last week that did not mention Hamas as a party to blame for the war. They'll have to defend that veto in front of the General Assembly as well sometime in the next week or so. Senior US correspondent Mike Wagenheim at the UN in New York we obviously will be coming back to you Mike for regular updates in the coming hours thank you very much for now Mike Wagenheim in New York and an update here in Studio we mentioned earlier on at the start of this broadcast that rocket sirens were sounding in Central Tel Aviv in Herzliya and areas surrounding the city as well we made mention here in studio of the loud interceptions we could hear above the studio and now confirmation there were in fact six interceptions in Tel Aviv the iron dome missile defence system intercepting six rockets coming towards the city also we are hearing reports of one hit in the city of Poland and one person moderately injured that is the update so far obviously we will keep bringing you all the latest details as they emerge. And now on to the diplomatic front in Jerusalem French president Emmanuel Macron the latest world leader to conduct a solidarity visit meeting just a short while ago with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier in the day he met with his counterpart Isaac Herzog the Israeli president reiterating Israel is demanding the full and immediate release of all its citizens adding there is no difference between Israeli citizens and someone who holds another citizenship this coming amidst reports that dozens of hostages with foreign citizenship could be released Herzog also saying Iran is playing with fire in Lebanon Macron saying the first objective should be the release of all hostages without any distinction let's listen to more of the comments from the Israeli Prime Minister and French president earlier in the day in Jerusalem. Today the international community is uniting in support of Israel for Hamas barbarism not only threatens the Jews it threatens the Middle East it threatens the region it threatens Europe, it threatens the world Hamas is the test case of civilization against barbarism we want all the hostages to be liberated all of them completely this is a priority for France we all have to be liberated without any differences we are ready that international coalition against Daesh in Syria and Iraq will also fight against Hamas we want to build a coalition regional, international to fight terrorism because it is the interest of Israel of its security in Israel's interest threatened by its same groups and we are also threatened by these groups I want to bring in our senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Ultiman before we even get to the significance of this visit the timing and of course the message from Emmanuel Macron he is not the first world leader to be in the country when rocket sirens are now racing for cover presumably not here in Tel Aviv so he didn't experience it himself but of course we have those pictures of German Chancellor Olaf Schultz on his airplane at the airport and he and everyone on the plane documented by journalists getting off laying on the ground with hands over their heads as the iron dome intercepts missiles overhead again, surreal, it happened during his visit but obviously it's important when the French president comes this is again the third of the big three countries in Europe where German leaders have all been through here not to mention of course President Biden and there's a great deal of meaning to that and the strong diplomatic support at the top level that Israel's getting is obviously very, very meaningful and that is the headline from this visit that said two points that Macron was very keen to make first of all in terms of Lebanon he doesn't want to see a war between Israel and Hisboa that's not surprising we know the French interest in Lebanon it's important this is personally to Macron this is part of France's grand foreign policy to project power and strengthen its former colonies a policy obviously with a very uneven record for France over the past few years but he's obviously very sensitive to that so I think a kind of dual warning here obviously a warning to Hisboa not to start a war or not to start a larger war than it has already started let's be honest there is a war of sorts going on in the northern border but I think also a message to Israel in Washington right? not to launch a preemptive strike so that's number one in the second headline obviously I think with a much deeper meaning this idea of forming an international coalition to fight Hamas this wouldn't be a war between Israel on one hand and the Israeli military on one hand and Hamas on the other this would be a war between a coalition in which Israel would be a part and Hamas on the other side Benita a move like this and should Israel exceed to it would in a sense undermine 75 years or more of the entire Israeli and even pre-state Zionist movements national security doctrine it's become such a cliche in Prime Minister Netanyahu's speeches that we almost don't notice it as we cross it off our mental bingo card Israel defending itself by itself a coalition is the opposite of it it invites foreign countries to have even more influence over how the war is conducted I think Israel real military support at the same time I think it's going to be a very controversial issue in Jerusalem it deserves a robust public debate but again it shows the real deeper meaning of this war and its crisis for Israel and more breaking news just in as we're talking about the threats of North Sirens sounding in northern Israel in the Upper Galilee the Upper Galilee Grisha as expected this is a clear message by Hamas we will launch from Gaza coordinated with the north I'm sure that in few minutes we will hear that it's not the Hezbollah, it's Hamas from the north let's see where it's going to take us I only have a few seconds left the message being sent whether it's Hamas, Hezbollah the message being sent right now with this rocket fire in recent hours briefly the message is very simple we still continue we will continue harassing the state of Israel you can bomb us as much as you want we are here we will continue attacking and you will not defeat us and I think that they don't that they misunderstand the reality because there's underground so they don't understand exactly what is going to hit them Colonel in the reserves Grisha Yakubovich and our Owen Ultiman we are going to come back to you because we want to actually find out exactly what's happening up north with our correspondent Robert Swift Robert we're hearing Siren sounding in the Upper Galilee what can you tell us that's correct so we're just now witnessing an artillery exchange we're seeing and hearing what appears to be at least a dozen, make that 13 now rounds of artillery fired by the Israeli military onto positions on the border a little earlier maybe say 3-4 minutes ago we thought we might have seen an anti-tank weapon fired we can't confirm that but this is quite a heavy barrage of fire that the Israeli military are putting down it's probably the heaviest deployment of artillery I've seen in the recent days that have been here on the border and this comes after what has been up until this point a very quiet day with only one anti-tank weapon attack earlier in the day but now there's this heavy deployment of fire and Rob just give us an indication how many communities up north have evacuated in recent days on the advice from the IDF give us an idea of the areas that have now been vacated briefly please that's right so there's many communities within 5 kilometers of the border where people have been told, ordered to evacuate but that is not true of all of the communities there are many including the Christian Arab village that we're standing in there are many communities that there are still people in and we are quite close to the border and there remains people here correspondent Robert Swift in Northern Israel stay safe thank you very much for that update we obviously will be coming back to Rob in the coming hours and thank you once again to Grisha Yakubovich and our senior international affairs correspondent Owen Ultiman and that is where we wrap up for now thank you very much for being with us for this Breaking News Edition our coverage will continue I'm Benita Levine in Tel Aviv stay tuned Breaking News coverage on I24 News thank you for watching Israel is at war make an investment in Israel Bonds it is the most powerful and direct way to stand with Israel visit israelbonds.com and invest now in news edition I'm Benita Levine Tel Aviv and our rolling coverage continues with a massive barrage of rockets sent from the Gaza Strip towards Israeli territory once again in recent hours sirens sounding in major parts east of Tel Aviv including towns near Ben Gurion airport and west bank settlements a direct hit in Al-Fei Manashe and Israeli settlement on the western edge of the central west bank no one was hurt two barrages sent in under 15 minutes rocket sirens also sounding in Beersheba in the south day 18 of the war with me in studio Israeli-Palestinian relations expert Colonel in the reserves Grisha Yakubovich the former head of the Civilian Department of Kurgat in the IDF and our senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Altman thank you both for being here Grisha I want to start with you sirens sounding just in recent hours very shortly after the IDF said earlier in the day two civilians don't be complacent about rocket fire at the same time more and more speculation around when this ground invasion is going to happen and as I'm speaking to you breaking news as we are talking red alert sirens are sounding right now in West Herzlia parts of Tel Aviv Ashkelon Southern industrial zone if you are just joining us now our colleagues are heading to the shelter right now this is breaking news once again sirens sounding in Tel Aviv our colleagues here in the newsroom going through to the shelter rocket alert sirens warning of incoming rocket fire from the Gaza Strip towards Tel Aviv and other parts of central Israel as well Grisha welcome to Israel this is our reality well maybe in Gaza they miss some water, some medicine, some food there is one thing that there is enough is rockets and according to Hamas strategy as I mentioned following two weeks they are managing their fire this is part of their strategy they were sure that probably the war or the operation according to their understanding will last let's say a month a month and a half and then they will reach to Haudenosaunee I'm going to interrupt you right now because we are hearing above our studio very loud interceptions this is the iron dome missile defense system intercepting rockets above our studio it sounds very loud 9 or 10 booms but they may not be finished Grisha you are the expert what are we hearing above our studio right now it's about our heads let's be more precise we are lucky that we have this system that Israel invested millions of dollars during the last decade to develop such a system I hope we will have new ones in the future better ones so we would be able to save lives and as we speak in Rishon let's see on west as well also sirens in other parts of Herzlia and across central Israel if you are just joining us now rocket alert sirens sounding right now many people as we speak running to shelter people who have cell phones will have been given an alert to say enter a protected space that's because rockets have been sent once again from the Gaza Strip civilian areas sirens sounding in Tel Aviv Jaffa Herzlia Grisha Yakubovich talk to us about the barrage that's happening right now it's the third to hit the area in the last few hours and when I say the area I'm talking about east Tel Aviv earlier on close to Ben Gurion airport all of them intercepted there was one hit in a settlement near the west bank nobody was hurt the iron dome missile defense system Grisha intercepting this barrage of rockets coming towards civilian territory as we speak you know we can count the 18 days and we can see that any important visit actually was escorted by a warm welcome from Gaza so we have the French president today here he is about to meet Mohamed Abbas in two hours in Ramallah it's the third I think the third event of rockets from Gaza to the center it's a welcome he declared he said to Hezbollah not to join this war he is part of the western coalition this is a message to him actually we will continue fighting Rishon Litzyon right now also another siren sounding above us in Tel Aviv asking people to go to shelters now also in Farahabad Safria as well happening right now siren sounding across central parts of Israel as we speak warning of incoming rocket fire from the Gaza Strip earlier on in the day there was a an advisory so to speak from the IDF saying to civilians don't be complacent you can see on your screen these are images from earlier of interceptions the iron dome missile defense system intercepting rockets right now we go to our senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev in the south Jonathan what update can you share right now another barrage of rockets coming towards central Israel what's happening where you are right now yes and also in the southern part of the city of Ashkelon where we are but here in the northern part of Ashkelon we've not heard anything so far Ashkelon did not have any sirens so far today but the residents here are not expecting this to last the entire day Ashkelon the city that took the most rockets since the war began it's this thing that you mentioned before officials stressing people not to be complacent this is very important because we saw that it is this exact behavior which saved people earlier in the day there was a direct hit and people were saved because they were in the protected shelter and unfortunately Hamas still has the ability to fire towards Israel towards central Israel this is the second barrage today that makes it to central Israel also earlier in the day cities like Bersheva and Ashdod were targeted therefore Hamas still has that ability and the home front should still behave as it did in previous days not to think that this is over this is far from over Jonathan with increasing regularity sirens have been happening since this war started it's something that isn't new sadly to communities close to the border where you are here in Tel Aviv there is a longer period of time so to speak for people to get to the shelter talk us through what it means for the communities who are still there of course many have evacuated in recent days but for the people how much time do they have to get to safety how much time do they have to get their loved ones to safety I'll give you examples that have happened to me in places like Zderot you hear the landfall sometimes before you hear the siren that's how close it is that's how much time you have it is said that in Zderot you have 15 seconds I've had many times in which you have 15 seconds you see the interceptors going up to the air and only then you hear the rockets also here in Ashkelon it's a little bit further away so maybe you do have 15 seconds but in the communities such as Zderot and those closer to the Gaza border those right on the border itself which are now practically empty there are seconds to go into shelter sometimes even those seconds are not there Thank you so much so the fans correspondent Jonathan Regev Lai from Southern Israel we will be coming back to you of course stay safe there Jonathan I want to pick up with Owen Ultiman this is something that is happening with increasing regularity it's something that the IDF cautioned earlier in the day don't be complacent the rocket fire isn't slowing down the experts suggesting that there could be a bigger escalation if a ground invasion does in fact happen what is the latest sentiment in terms of what is unfolding on the ground right now how are Israelis feeling 18 days into this war well obviously there are a lot of arenas but as per your question let's focus on the issue of the rockets first of all in terms of central Israel and Jerusalem and an emphasis on those although also to some degree even in many parts of southern Israel maybe not the border communities themselves but many parts of southern Israel the rocket fire has slowed down over the last few days there are fewer launches for a lot of the reasons probably that Grisha mentioned we heard from the IDF spokesperson earlier on today that this isn't necessarily an indication that Hamas can't fire rockets but a decision by Hamas not to fire rockets or at least not as many as it did in the initial days of the war certainly the first day the day of the massacre when there were 2,500 fired in a single day simply unimaginable of course we all lived through it but even it's fire management they do it properly they know exactly that they have a certain two months, three months that they need to manage to manage the fire they will continue launching to the last second right and I think it's understood here in Israel that stopping the rocket fire itself is not part of the objectives of the war and that may sound strange to people overseas but it's not considered a defeat the fact that Hamas is still able to fire it's taken for granted again the idea and the goal of this war and this of course separates it dramatically from the mowing the lawn strategy of the past campaigns is the idea is to end Hamas control of the Gaza Strip and once you do that well at that point there would be no rocket fire again that's the idea but stopping the rocket fire over the course of the campaign over the course of the war is not really a goal and why not because at the end of the day Benita when you look at the wide picture that we're looking at the sad reality is that the rockets are a bit of a sideshow to most Israelis right only because of the iron dome because of two things because of the iron dome of course and because the communities that are most immediately affected that have no time in many cases just literally seconds to get to a safe area those communities have been evacuated in some cases because the people in those communities were murdered or kidnapped or injured in some cases because people have been evacuated there are still weaker populations in some of these places and that obviously has to be taken care of not to mention hundreds of thousands or at least tens of thousands of soldiers amassed around the Gaza border but that of course is one of the reasons why at this point it's a bit of a sideshow and the real concerns are of course the expansion of the war to other fronts whether it be in the north in Hezbollah or the Syrian border the situation in the West Bank of course and in Arab communities inside Israel of course important to emphasize that there have been no incidents or virtually no incidents right involving Israeli Arabs and Arab communities Palestinian communities inside Israel's border so very important to emphasize that but it's still something that people here are concerned about and are watching so it's those arenas that I think are more of concern for people and of course the issue of infiltration and the question of how many Israeli soldiers might be killed in an expanded campaign inside Gaza those are the issues Israelis I think are more focused about the sad reality is that rocket fires become a part of life here and because of the miracle fuel of the Iron Dome of course it's not a miracle it's because of the foresight and the ingenuity of Israel and of the United States under presidents of both parties and vast majorities of members of Congress because of that cooperation the Iron Dome is something that in many ways has neutralized the rocket threat and is forced to focus our attention on other arenas and elements of what's happening in Gaza and talking about other elements of what is happening in Gaza these are the images the families of 85 year old Yorkeved Lifshitz and 80 year old Nirit Cooper might never have imagined seeing two elderly Israeli hostages freed by Hamas overnight Yorkeved has described being driven across the border on a motorcycle with two terrorists being taken into what she called a spider web of tunnels under Gaza and being separated from her husband on Saturday the 7th of October now at least 220 hostages were kidnapped by the terror group from southern Israel during the Hamas killing rampage which claimed the lives of more than 1,400 people more than 5,400 were wounded during the hours long attacks at that music festival and several kibbutzim, moshavim and bases near the Gaza border let's listen to more from Yorkeved Lifshitz earlier on in the day I've been through hell we never thought we'll reach such a state they went bazaar in our kibbutz put myona motorcycle on the side and drove through the fields they blew up the fence the electronic fence that was built for 2.5 billion dollars it did not to no avail masses stormed our homes hit people they kidnapped many children it was extremely painful they told us that they believe in the Quran and they will do us no harm and give us the same conditions that they have we started walking through the tunnels with a wet ground with extreme humidity we reached a big hole where some 25 kidnapped were concentrated after 2 or 3 hours they separated from my kibbutz 5 people and they put them in a separate room their guards were next to us with a paramedic and a doctor we laid there on mattresses they took care of the sanitary situation and doctor came every 2 or 3 days to check on us so many emotions listening to that so many questions as well right now though Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen is about to address the UN Security Council about this Hamas terror onslaught on the 7th of October and Israel's pending response he is wanting support to try and pressure Hamas to release the more than 200 hostages still being held in Gaza our senior US correspondent Mike Wagenheim is at the UN in New York and Mike the global spotlight on Israel's foreign minister soon UN Chief Antonio Guterres up first top of mind for Israel freeing hostages still held by Hamas he could certainly add in details on the rocket fire coming towards central Israel just a short while ago talk to us about what's happening at the UN that's right foreign minister Cohen being accompanied here in New York around the UN building by the families of several of the hostages that are being held right now by Hamas Day those families are meeting separately today with Secretary General Antonio Guterres to also meet later today with New York City Mayor Eric Adams and members of the American Jewish community in New York later on tonight will certainly be a focal point of Minister Cohen's speech coming up in about a half hours time here in New York City this is a high level security council meeting ministerial level Tony Blinken the US Secretary of State is here foreign ministers as well from Saudi Arabia from Egypt from Jordan from several European countries including France and Germany to talk about this high intensity conflict here between Israel and Hamas the US has floated an amended draft resolution that they hope will make it through the security council that mentions humanitarian pauses there's been a lot of negotiation on exactly what that language will entail no clear indication yet of when the US will put it up for a vote meanwhile in terms of those hostages we've had tremendous support outside the UN New Yorkers gathering and support of those hostages and their families reaching for blocks down the first avenue here outside of the United Nations we spoke with one of those that came out for the rally earlier on this morning let's give it a listen trying to get the message first two fold first of all we're here to support the families of the hostages who are in New York and I'm here standing in front of the United Nations because I think the plea is for the whole world for all our world representatives I guess and I'm here to just have every Israeli know that they're not alone that there are so many people in the world that are supporting and fighting this fight Benita this issue here this war between Israel and Hamas will take up a lot of oxygen here at the United Nations this week in addition to the security council meeting today there will be an emergency session of the General Assembly that was called for on Thursday morning that will probably stretch into Friday due to all the countries that wish to speak to the U.S. which vetoed the Security Council resolution last week that did not mention Hamas as the party to blame for the war they'll have to defend that veto in front of the General Assembly as well sometime in the next week or so Senior U.S. correspondent Mike Wagenheim at the U.N. in New York we obviously will be coming back to you Mike for regular updates in the coming hours thank you very much for now Mike Wagenheim in New York and as I said here in studio we mentioned earlier on at the start of this broadcast that rocket sirens were sounding in central Tel Aviv, in Herzliya and areas surrounding the city as well we made mention here in studio of the loud interceptions we could hear above the studio and now confirmation there were in fact six interceptions in Tel Aviv the iron dome missile defence system intercepting six rockets coming towards the city also we are hearing reports of one hit in the city of Holon and one person moderately injured that is the update so far obviously we will keep bringing you all the latest details as they emerge and now on to the diplomatic front in Jerusalem French President Emmanuel Macron the latest world leader to conduct a solidarity visit meeting just a short while ago with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier in the day he met with his counterpart President Isaac Herzog the Israeli president reiterating Israel is demanding the full and immediate release of all its citizens adding there is no difference between Israeli citizens and someone who holds another citizenship this coming amidst reports that dozens of hostages with foreign citizenship could be released Herzog also saying Iran is playing with fire in Lebanon Macron saying the first objective should be the release of all hostages without any distinction let's listen to more of the comments from the Israeli Prime Minister and French President earlier in the day in Jerusalem the international community is uniting in support of Israel for Hamas barbarism not only threatens the Jews it threatens the Middle East it threatens the region it threatens Europe it threatens the world Hamas is the test case of civilization against barbarism we want all the hostages to be liberated all of them completely this is a priority for France we all have to be liberated without any differences we are ready that international coalition against Daesh in Syria and Iraq will also fight against Hamas Hamas we want to build a coalition regional international to fight terrorism it's in Israel interest and we are also threatened by these groups I want to bring in our senior diplomatic correspondent Owen before we even get to the significance of this visit the timing and of course the message from Emmanuel Macron he is not the first world leader to be in the country when rocket sirens are sounding and people are racing for cover presumably not here in Tel Aviv so he didn't experience it himself but of course we have those pictures remember of German Chancellor Olaf Schultz on his airplane at the airport about to leave and he and everyone on the plane documented by journalists getting off on the ground with hands over their heads as the iron dome intercepts missiles overhead again, surreal, it happened during his visit but obviously it's important when the French president comes this is again the third of the big three countries in Europe right the British, the French and German leaders have all been through here not to mention of course President Biden and there's a great deal of meaning to that and the strong diplomatic support at the top level that Israel is getting is obviously very very meaningful and that is the headline from this visit two points that Macron was very keen to make first of all, in terms of Lebanon he doesn't want to see a war between Israel and Hezbollah that's not surprising we know the French interest in Lebanon how important this is personally to Macron this is part of France's grand foreign policy to project power and strengthen its former colonies a policy obviously with a very uneven record for France over the past few years but he's obviously very sensitive to that so I think a kind of dual warning here obviously a warning to Hezbollah not to start a war or not to start a larger war than it has already started let's be honest there is a war of sorts going on in the northern border but I think also a message to Israel again consistent what we've heard from Washington right not to launch a preemptive strike so that's number one and the second headline obviously I think with a much deeper meaning this idea of forming an international coalition to fight Hamas so this wouldn't be a war between Israel on one hand the Israeli military on one hand and Hamas on the other this would be a war between a coalition in which Israel would be a part and Hamas on the other side Benita a move like this should it happen and should Israel exceed to it would in a sense undermine 75 years or more of the entire Israeli and even pre-state Zionist movements national security doctrine it's become such a cliche in Prime Minister Netanyahu's speeches we almost don't notice it as we cross it off our mental bingo card right Israel defending itself by itself a coalition is the opposite of it it invites foreign countries to have even more influence over how the war is conducted all the while giving Israel real military support at the same time I think it's going to be a very controversial issue in Jerusalem it deserves a robust public debate but again it shows the real deeper meaning of this war and it's crisis for Israel and more breaking news just in North siren sounding in northern Israel in the Upper Galilee the Upper Galilee Grisha as expected this is a clear message by Hamas we will launch from Gaza we are coordinated with the north I'm sure that in few minutes we will hear that it's not the Hezbollah it's Hamas from the north let's see where it's going to take us I only have a few seconds left the message being sent whether it's Hamas Hezbollah the message being sent right now with this rocket fire in recent hours briefly the message is very simple we still continue we will continue harassing the state of Israel you can bomb us as much as you want we are here we will continue attacking and you will not defeat us and I think that they don't that they misunderstand the reality they don't because there's underground so they don't understand exactly what it's going to hit them Colonel in the Reserves Grisha Yakubovich and our Owen Ultiman we are going to come back to you because we want to actually find out exactly what's happening up north with our correspondent Robert Swift Robert we're hearing siren sounding in the Upper Galilee what can you tell us that's correct so we're just now witnessing an artillery exchange we're seeing and hearing what appears to be at least a dozen make that 13 now an artillery fired by the Israeli military onto positions on the border a little earlier 3-4 minutes ago we thought we might have seen an anti-tank weapon fired but we can't confirm that but this is quite a heavy barrage of fire that the Israeli military are putting down it's probably the heaviest exchange the heaviest deployment of artillery I've seen in the recent days that have been here on the border and this comes after what has been up until this point a very quiet day with only one anti-tank weapon attack earlier in the day but now there's this heavy deployment of fire and Rob just give us an indication we know many communities up north have evacuated in recent days on the advice from the IDF give us an idea of the areas that have now been vacated briefly please that's right so there's many communities within 5 kilometers of the border where people have been told, ordered to evacuate but that is not true of all of the communities there are many including the Christian Arab village that we're standing in there are many communities that there are still people in and we are quite close to the border and there remains people here Correspondent Robert Swift in northern Israel stay safe thank you very much for that update we obviously will be coming back to Rob in the coming hours and thank you once again to Grisha Jakobovich and our senior international affairs correspondent Owen Ultiman and that is where we wrap up for now thank you very much for being with us for this breaking news edition our coverage will continue I'm Vinita Levine in Tel Aviv stay tuned breaking news coverage on I-24 news thank you for watching is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped help us we don't want to do we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity special coverage here on I-24 news we'll start right now at the UN Security Council meeting listening to Israeli Foreign Minister Ali Cohen let's take a listen a few of the many children and babies that have not seen evil they have not caused evil but they are victims of evil these kids witness which cannot be described by word Mr. Secretary General in what war do you live definitely this is not our world do I want to remember the creation of hell the shouts of the raiders in joining the hands cries of the wounded begging for life faces of mothers craved with pain hiding children dripping with fear no I don't want to remember but how can I forget how can I forget do I want to remember this word upside down families vanish in the midst of the day the mass grave steaming with vapor of blood mothers screaming for children in vain no I have to remember and never let you forget this heart burning poem was written by Alexander Israel a Holocaust survivor in 1942 five years later the united nation general assembly voted in favor of the creation of the Jewish state the belt of the state of Israel 75 years ago was a clear statement never again never again Saturday October 7 will go down in history as nothing less than a brutal massacre Saturday October 7 is a wake up call for the entire free world a wake up call against extremism and terror on that day over 1500 terrorists of Hamas and Islamic Jihad infiltrated Israel from the south into viciousness exceditive and ISIS killing over 1400 babies children women and men and wounded over 4000 they went from house to house slaughtering entire families and individuals in the beds on the streets on the way to the synagogue raping women burn them alive dancing enchanting on people bodies you have not been there you have not seen the horror or smell it let us pause for a moment think about many innocent people innocent people that just wake up in Saturday morning Saturday morning so many of them are not yet brought to a final bureau and let's recite the immortal words of the Jewish prayer for the dead the kaddish itgadal itgadash shmeraba this massacre will go down in history as more brutal than ISIS Hamas are new Nazis Hamas are the new Nazis just as the civilized world united defeat the Nazis just as the civilized world united to defeat ISIS the civilized world has to stand united behind Israel to defeat Hamas let us know what is taking about Hamas's intention I am sure secretary general you can read it it chartered clearly call for the destruction and elimination of the state of Israel this will never be over 220 were taken hostage among the hostages children who have seen their parents murder Holocaust survivor elderly in need for care and medicine we call for immediate the Red Cross access to all the hostages and their unconditional release present in this room Moran Aloni seven members of his family were taken hostage Moran sister Sharon Aloni Conyo and Daniel Aloni were beaten up with Sharon's husband David and their three-year old twins Emma and Julie three years old twin right now while we are sitting here they are all by the Hamas alongside Daniel's five years old daughter Amelia early morning early Saturday on the 7th of October Sharon wrote on her family group chat that there are Hamas terrorists in their home and they are hiding in the safe room a few minutes later she wrote that the terrorists set the house on fire since if they are not able to enter into the room and to slaughter them they burn the houses in order they will get out and they written that they are chucking in the safe room a few minutes later my sister we are dying help us the family received information that Sharon Daniel Emma Julie Amelia David and Ariel David's brother are held in captive by Hamas terrorists in Gaza here with us is another family Hirsch Goldberg Paulin a young man aged 23 one of the beautiful and innocent participant in the music festival Hirsch is seriously injured on his phone the last two text message he managed to send to his parents before he was kidnapped to Gaza I love you, I'm sorry that's what he wrote to his parents there are other family here with us today the family of Itaichen Kit and Aviva Segal Liad Benin Idan Alexander Omer Ventura and there is so many more Qatar Qatar which finance and Arbor of Hamas leaders could influence and enable the immediate and unconditional release of all of all hostages held by the terrorists you members of the international community should demand Qatar to do just that the meeting should conclude with a clear message bring them home bring them home I would like to listen to this recording of Hamas what he said there in Arabs he telling to his mother and fathers that he is proud that he has blood of 10 Jewish that he murdered what monster they gave a birth to secretary general this is the world that we live we give Palestinian Gaza till the last millimeter there is no dispute in regard to the land of Gaza but they take the money they receive from the world and instead of building hospital, office building commercial center they took the money to dig tunnels to build rocket factory not for the favor of the people this is one example and you see and you can show all the movie that they film and they proud of this all lives were not speaking on behalf of Islam human values or fight for freedom they were speaking on behalf of cruelty malice and hate and you show all ask yourself ladies and gentlemen who do we face we Israel we don't only have the right to defend ourselves we have the duty to do so this is not the right I want to speak to all of you and to tell you the west is next the west is next the wall which was imposed on us there is no side this wall was imposed on us is not only Israel's wall it is the wall of the free world I hear the call for proportionality I hear the calls as say Lin before for ceasefire tell me what is a proportionate response for killing of babies for rape women and burn them for beheading of a child how you can agree to a ceasefire with someone who swore to kill and destroy your own existence how the proportional response to October 7 massacre is a total destruction a total destruction to the last one of the Hamas it is not only Israel's right to destroy Hamas it is our duty for Israel it is a matter of survival the free world should remember and never forget what happened on October 7 today this barbaric terror hit Israel tomorrow it will be at everyone's doorstep at everyone's doorstep these terrorists don't have only Israel's destruction in mind their dream is the world read about it exactly like the Nazis they say they are willing to expand this war was imposed on us we have not chosen this war but have no doubt we are going to win it we are going to win it because this war is for life this war must be your war as well as Iran's proxy Hamas has three objective to its barbarous attack the murder of Jews the kidnap being of hostages and derailing the expansion of peace stability civilization in our region united will will and purpose like never before Israel must now act in an unprecedented way to ensure Hamas objectives will never be meet will never be meet this is the end the 18th day since the beginning of this war through the last 18 days our citizens were under heavily missile and rocket fire from Gaza and not only from Gaza there is a clear attempt on escalating and provoking a war on our northern border whereas Iran's proxy Hezbollah is targeting our cities the objective of Hamas its pattern and collaborator is clear they will not succeed not only from neighboring country, Israelis facing threat last week cruise missiles were launched at Israel from Yemen of no illusion who is behind it and what is the reason I told I'm telling to our Arab country neighbor the same threat of Iran and the terror organization the same threat I standing in front of you saying loud and clear this war will be won and for the international community to understand who is under threat and who is the aggressor Mr. President, colleagues permanent representative the world now is facing a clear choice of moral clarity one can either be one can be either part of the civilized world or surrounded to the forces of evil and barbarism Hamas, savages and their friends there is no middle ground no room for moral ambiguity for this I want to thank all the government who has already designated Hamas as a terror organization and I call others to do it immediately I want to thank the United States President Biden and Secretary Blinken for showing such a moral clarity for standing with Israel in world indeed this dark hour thank you I also wish to thank the many other leaders from across the world who have come to stand with Israel in this difficult time I would like to remind you the charter of the United Nations which you all signed begin with this world the people of the United Nations determined to save succeeding generation from the scourge of war which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind today after the most vicious and brutal terror attack in the modern history if all nations do not stand decisively by the innocent orphans left alone in the world by the kids that were slaughtered while dancing at sunrise by the holocaust survivors murdered or kidnapped stand by Israel on our mission to eliminate the monsters from the face of the earth of the earth if all nations do not stand by the basic value the basic value of humanity described in the UN Charter this will be the darkest hour the darkest hour of the United Nations under you Mr. Secretary at this place and this place will have no moral justification to exist at this difficult time for the people of Israel we say loudly we are strong we will rebuild we are determined and result to achieve our dream to be a free nation in our land the land of Zion and Jerusalem thank you this was Israeli Foreign Minister Ali Cohen addressing the session of the United Nations Security Council while members of families family members of Israeli hostages are there in New York listening and also demonstrating outside the UN in Manhattan ID24 News Mike Wegenheim you are there at the UN while Minister Cohen was speaking was brewing here in Israel over the statement by the UN security I'm sorry the UN Secretary General Guterres about this not happening in a vacuum that was accepted here in Israel in outrage and we've seen the Foreign Minister of Israel addressing Guterres a few times during his speech give us to that not only Foreign Minister Cohen taking Secretary General Guterres to task but also Israeli ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan sent a quite a personal swipe at Guterres tweeting out that he's disconnected from reality that an organization that was founded in the ashes of the holocaust for them to have such a leader at their helm is a sorrowful situation also Benny Gantz leader of the National Unity Party Defense Minister also tweeted out a critique of Guterres it's one of those things we've heard from the global community over the last couple of weeks or so nothing can justify the terror attacks but here's a list of justifications for it anyway and that's essentially what we got in the statement from Guterres today which is why it's setting off such a storm amongst Israeli officials so Cohen giving a very impassioned speech and we've heard time and time again during Holocaust times what starts with the Jews doesn't end with the Jews Cohen gave his own version of that speech today what starts with Israel winds up in the west and a warning to the global community that Hamas will not stop at Israel's doorsteps will not stop in the Gaza periphery that this Jihad that they pretend will eventually go global if the global community does not back Israel in its efforts and it starts here at the United Nations Cohen trying to make that point very passionately here today and what else is expected there the Security Council Mike well there'll be speeches here throughout the afternoon alright we lost audio with Mike we'll get to Mike later here in the studio are with me now with Wasserman Landa former Knesset member and Lieutenant Colin Doronovital, former commander of Israeli Special Forces the IDF Knesset member as well alright so your reaction to the things that Israeli Foreign Ministers just said there or the Security Council I'm a little bit speechless at the inability of the Secretary General of the United Nations to comprehend the situation honestly I'm a liberal I belong to the center party in Israel I've spent my entire life working with Arab communities within Israel and outside of Israel spent three years as a diplomat in Egypt speak Arabic respect Arabic I learned the Islamic religion I cannot fathom how a Muslim being stands in front of people and can in any way find any kind of justifications for the horrific heinous crimes that do no justice to Islam or to the Palestinian people it's a huge unbelievable stain for the Palestinians and for anybody who's Muslim I don't see how anybody can justify gang raping women I have one thing to say to the Secretary General of the United Nations you should be ashamed of yourself I'm a military man so I'll be very short the words are outrageous but the answer should be delivered in the battlefield and I hope Israel would gain the forces and give the right answer in the battlefield Mike back to you and we were talking about what's expected next the Security Council Mike the United States has floated its latest draft resolution at the Security Council negotiated over many days now as it tries to strike a balance between calling out Hamas which is a prerequisite for them to pass any Security Council resolution and also taking into account a ceasefire humanitarian pause the US added the exploration of humanitarian pauses in its latest draft there's no telling yet when that Security Council resolution will go to a vote on Thursday there will be an emergency session via General Assembly which will carry into Friday and also the US vetoed a Brazilian drafted resolution last week at the Security Council due to new procedures here at the UN they'll have to go in front of the General Assembly and essentially defend that veto there will be more conversation about the Israel Hamas war so this is going to take up a lot of time and energy over the next few days here at the Security Council with a lot of opinions going in both directions here Mike there are some family members of hostages who flew to New York from Israel what's going on there at the compound of the UN that's right on 1st Avenue here outside the UN hostages going from 43rd Avenue all the way down to 47th stretching across four blocks outside the United Nations several of the family members of abductees of hostages in Gaza are meeting today with, by the way UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres I'm sure they'll have some things to say to him as well about the situation they're also going to meet later today with New York City Mayor Eric Adams and tonight they'll meet with members of the American Jewish community here in Manhattan so they're making the rounds here pleading their case and pleading for support from all avenues possible did you feel any sort of mobilization by countries there by the ambassador to act in order to release hostages that seems to be one of the criteria now for several countries they're saying we need a humanitarian pause of course the civilians in Gaza but also they're saying let's give it time to get those hostages out so it's a case being made by countries who not necessarily might be on Israel's side to say hey we understand but let's pause the conflict here to get the hostages out alright Mike thank you we'll take a break now we'll be right back with more coverage Israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking the hostages and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity I've been kidnapped because you can't do anything for me and in Israel Bons it is the most powerful and direct way to stand with Israel visit israelbons.com and invest now www.co.il made for me official dresser of I-24 News good evening ladies and gentlemen for special coverage I-24 News Robert Swift is near the Israeli Lebanon border Rob where with you alright so we've just been witnessing basically a pitched artillery battle that was taking place on the border behind me and if you can see the lights on the hill to my rear that is where it appears that one or more anti-tank weapons fired from Hezbollah hit an Israeli base it's understood from a statement from the Israeli military that around 7 anti-tank weapons were fired alongside those missiles Hezbollah also fired around about 12 mortar rounds and in response the Israeli military fired artillery and tank fire and also at some point it made use of a UAV to fire a Hellfire missile which went over our heads this was aimed at some of the Hezbollah squads which were just across the border and were firing these mortars and anti-tank weapons and the level of fire is the most I've seen in the last two weeks where I've been stationed up here on the northern border at some point the rate of artillery rounds going overhead was quite intimidating there was fire behind us also on the hill where at some points we heard machine gun fire and it looked like a smoke screen had been put down we were also able to hear Israeli tanks moving around we didn't see them but we could hear them at the minute the Israeli military said that there was no casualties they've not reported on what it was in the base that was struck but it did appear that something was hit because we saw some sort of object burning for a good 20-30 minutes now we spoke to some of the local residents of the village that we're in and they were a bit more chilled about the rate of fire they said that they've seen contacts like this take place before but this is the highest rate of fire that we've seen whilst we've been up here on the northern border all right Robert, thank you very much for this update two elderly Israeli women were freed by Hamas last night 24 years in the cold setting reports 18 days in Hamas captivity 85-year-old Jochebed Lipschitz and 80-year-old Norit Cooper were released to the international Red Cross finally back to their families in Israel seated in a wheelchair Jochebed recounts the moment she was ripped away from her home in Kibbutz near Oz I went through hell I didn't think or know I'd get to this situation they went on a rampage in our Kibbutz kidnapped me laid me over a motorcycle on the side and flew with me through the plowed fields they blew up the fence the special electronic fence that cost two and a half billion shekels and didn't help at all and masses stormed our houses beat people some of them like me kidnapped they didn't distinguish between old and young people after beating Jochebed with sticks and dragging her to Gaza her daughter explains Jochebed was led through the underground tunnels in the strip there are a huge network of tunnels underneath it looks like a spider web Jochebed says she was kept with roughly 25 other hostages before she and four others were taken to a separate room to receive medical care people were friendly they kept the place very clean they were very concerned about them her mother was treated surprisingly well while in captivity seeing a doctor on a regular basis and eating the same meals as members of Hamas this video released by Hamas shows Jochebed shaking the hand of her captors before walking off with the Red Cross many are worried this is just part of Hamas' propaganda fueling their claims they released hostages for humanitarian reasons Jochebed is just one of more than 200 kidnapped and the same treatment can't be said of others including Jochebed's husband who remains hostage in Gaza my mom said that she was treated well and that the people were kind to her we do not know what is the story of the 100 and 75 were so other prisoners we cannot deduct from it that they too are in a good condition four hostages have been released so far but at least 220 remain in the hands of Hamas terrorists including dozens of children and an estimated 20 over the age of 60 the IDF is reportedly dropping these papers throughout Gaza urging Palestinians with any verified and valuable information to call the Israeli army on a secure line to be compensated with a financial reward all of this in hopes that the 220 remaining hostages will be brought back to Israel safely and quickly back to the studio here Ruth we're seeing 85 year old woman being released from captivity it's unimaginable let me put it this way every single word that comes out of the Hamas notwithstanding one teeny tiny little comma is psychological warfare and it's very clear to anybody who has anything to do with that kind of content the old lady who went through hell and describes it as a hell torment also described in the beginning of her story the horrors that were perpetrated in Kfar Azar and Niroz and other places in Israel on civilians but more so she said that five of the kidnapped five out of 220 civilians who were kidnapped by the Hamas were put aside in a separate room and more or less treated in more or less an okay manner how fitting that these particular five people and by the way they had sanitary pads for women ready meticulously planned attack men, Hamas operatives had sanitary pads for women underground in the tunnels in the attack tunnels in other words they meticulously planned to take hostage women, old women and how fitting that that particular woman and another who were separately held in a separate room and kindly treated would then let out to tell the story while their husbands are still kept in captivity and God forbid if they say something against the Hamas right the husbands are still there let's talk about what's going on in Gaza especially the fact that Israeli military not going inside on the ground I think the Hamas as we see plays his hand unfortunately very cleverly and by releasing those hostages bring to the front the hostage dilemma that the decision makers are facing and this does connect to the issue of the ground offensive I mean this is part of the consideration that right now trouble decision makers and also the military generals about the ground offensive what we do know is that the army is ready the plan is set, the forces are set we should also take into account that even if there's a ground offensive there will be dedicated forces special forces dedicated to find the hostages maybe create even negotiation on the ground kill the kidnappers or do what they need the general appointed to dismiss but I think this really goes into the consideration and right now the hostage dilemma, the ground offensive the distention the US positioning some tension perhaps I'm not sure about it between the political political leaders consideration and the military who wants to go on the offensive dilemma and there are still reports that maybe another deal bigger one even is being in the making right this is part of the consideration when they feed this story yesterday we were thinking about 50 hostages coming out so this really gets into the consideration in terms of the ground offensive and this is part of the dilemma that right now decision makers are facing I don't envy them this is a real dilemma right Kibbutz Niroz was one of the hardest heat on October 7th that's where and we'll get to that later I want to go back to you Ruth about the families of all these hostages some of them are in New York as we said they are actually succeeding in shifting the public opinion in Israel the first days everybody just wanted to bomb the Hamas now they are talking more about hostages I personally feel that the public opinion in Israel is very much for the hostages from the start I feel that they are the people of Israel are walking around the streets with huge eyes bowed heads united ultra-religious and secular national religious old and young left and right very united in wanting to make a way with this death squad neighboring our country but from the start I felt that there was a huge empathy a huge sorrow a huge pain because you know that we all send our children to the army it's not a professional army we are all part of this these were civilians that were attacked and suddenly any hope of mediation any hope of something political any hope of any kind of normalcy and normality in the region was shattered for everyone I think that at the hearts of all of the population in Israel are those hostages from the start Israel security service Shinbat and police released footage from the interrogation of Hamas terrorists who said they were given explicit instructions to kill and kidnap civilians including women and children let's watch what's your name? Ghazi what's your occupation? I'm in Hamas in Al-Gassam what's your position? I'm the best I'm the best what's your name? I'm Mohamed what's your position? I'm Shabura I'm Mohamed Al-Mashda one second what's your occupation? I'm the best what's your name? I'm Hamza I'm Hamza I'm Hamza I'm Hamza I'm Hamza I'm Hamza I'm Al-Gassam I'm Al-Gassam I'm Al-Gassam what's your occupation? I'm in Hamas What was the most important military situation for you? I was in the army for two days. Were there any civilians? The civilians were killed by men. Women, Muslims and children were killed. Were there any soldiers? Were there any soldiers? No soldiers. We reached the border, we went to Beir. Beir, what was your name? Saita. What was the most important thing you were doing? I was going to kill myself. What was the most important thing you were doing? I was going to kill myself. I was going to kill myself. I was going to kill myself. We were going to a town. Who was the one who told you that was the town of Beir? He told us that we were going to kill ourselves. What was the most important thing you were doing? Saita was going to kill himself. What were you doing? I was going to kill myself. What were you doing in the village? Saita killed herself. We went to the police station and said to the kid, This morning we were in the kitchen, we were in the kitchen and we took the keys and threw them away. We were at home and when we arrived we were all here. We talked to the kid, the kid said, he threw the keys and threw them away. The kid threw the keys and threw the keys and threw them away. Did you take the keys and threw away the keys? They have to go to the hospital and get a house for 10,000 dollars. Do you get all the money from the hospital? Yes. Who told you that? They were in the police station. In the police station? Yes. In the police station? Yes. Do you get all the money from the hospital? Yes. Because they are in the middle of the city. They take as much money as they can. So they are aiming to enter the city. They are in the middle of the city. What is the problem that you have to deal with? What is the problem? What is the problem? What is the problem? What is the problem? What is the problem? What is the problem? A murder. Who killed him? The civilians. They entered the house. They stayed in the living room and closed the door. The door was closed. The sound was inside. They entered the house. They left the door. There was blood of course in the meanwhile. There was a person inside that 2 tag after theясoum. Would you expect it to be a family? Family. ordinary designer.這麼 ordinary? The ominous man first like a drawing. Now it is the wife of aDaa Usually, in Astana. And the other one is the daughter of Fustan's child. So we walked in a street. And there is the house on the other side. I saw a woman, she was in danger, they covered her These guys were with you? They used this woman as a human being Okay, tell me, when we put her in the prison, what did she do to you? We entered the first room, and then the woman was there She cried and cried When you saw the woman, what did you see? I saw her crying, but I didn't see her She looked at her dog in the street, she cried Then there was a woman in the garden Was this woman with you? No How many times did you see her? Two or three times How many times did you see her? In the morning After that? After that, we put her in the prison, there was an attack on her Tell me, what did you do in the prison? How did you get out of the house? When I entered the prison, I saw two of them on the ground They took the woman from 60 to 65 years old Did they take the woman? No, they didn't After they killed the woman, two years later They brought her to the prison for about 45 years They took her to the prison, she was a little bit old They took her to the prison and they took her out Did they take her out of the prison? No, they didn't We went back to the prison and they took her out of the prison She was 16 or 15 years old What did you do in the prison? I was in the prison, I was filming her I was telling her to go to jail, I told her not to go to jail We were holding the women in jail We were in the prison We had a house in front of us We came back to the prison, the bodies were all gone I don't know what's his name, I don't know his name He brought two women to jail, he was taken to the prison He was in charge of the handcuffs He opened a small handcuff He opened the handcuffs And he was sent to jail inside the prison We saw him with the 2nd explosion, the 4th one, the 2nd one and the 2nd one. And they killed him? Yes. What did he do? He shot me in the head and I shot him in the eye. Yes. Yes. And where did you shoot him? I shot him a lot. He was a player and he was in my eyes. Yes, yes. I shot him in the eye. Where did you shoot him? I shot him in the eye. I shot him from the shoulder. From the shoulder. 40 to 40 years. It was a water rush. No. He was in the middle of the water. I wasn't sure. I was in the house and I shot him in the head. He shot me in the head and I shot him in the eye. How many shots did you shoot here? One shot here and I shot him in the eye. I shot him and he was in the eye. I shot him in the eye. You were in the eye to get the shots. What do you want? Do you want to use electricity against the civilians? More electricity. They closed the door on the top of the building. Then they went out of the building. They asked if there was electricity or not. They asked if there was a wall. They closed the door. They asked if they could open the door. They opened the door. They asked if they were scared. They brought a box. They put it there. They opened the box. They opened a little box. Then someone brought a box inside. They told them that they were scared. They opened the box and left. The number of people outside was weird. It was a surprise, but I don't know anything. They got bigger, more children, more women. They became some children. Kidner? A child could be 10 years old. After that... Children and moms? I was 18 years old when I was 21 years old and I was 1 year old and the dog was small And the dog was dead? Yes How many dogs were there? I don't know, maybe 10 dogs were killed At first, 2 dogs were killed, 3 were injured Did the soldiers have any weapons to defend them? No, they didn't When they arrived, they were shot They were hit? Yes, they were hit And this is in the Qur'an? Is that what Islam says? Yes According to the Islamic religion Isn't that Islam? Yes The religion of Islam says that Come and kill them No No? Let me explain You don't see these rumors You don't see them as murderers Right Right The religion forbids The prophet said Don't kill a woman, don't kill a child Don't kill a woman, don't kill a child This is not about the investigation, the investigation According to the work that happened and what you see What is the difference between this work and the work of the dead? There is no difference It's about the investigation According to Islam This is how you kill people, kill children No, it's not Islam, it's about the children What is Islam? Is Islam acceptable to you? Yes, it's acceptable I'm telling you, there are 13 of them So there are 8 people in the world who did what you did? There are 10 of them Why did you kill them? They laughed at us What? They laughed at us Who laughed at you? The two Hamas They were sitting in the room and looking at us So they were thinking about me? Yes, they were thinking about you They were thinking about you I'm speaking in the name of Allah and the Muslims They were eating after they were done Who did they think they were? The two Hamas Who are they? They were listening to me They were walking They were thinking about you They were laughing at us They were sitting in the room and looking at us Our leader Who are they? Who are Hamas? Hamas, all of them Who are they? They are Russians Sunmar, Haniyah, Abu Khaled They are Russians They are all the ones who were killed All of them, I can see, were killed Who was killed? They were all the ones who were killed These are the Hamas terrorists being interrogated by Israeli security forces With us now is David Katz, CEO of Global Security Group and former federal agent Thank you very much for joining us We're part of this now, I hope You're an expert on investigations What do you make of what we've just seen? Personal experience has been involved with this but I've never, I've never where they keep their said their emotions under control and in check As a fellow Jew I am feeling every bit of pain you and Israel are feeling and I have no words when I hear things like this What kind of information can you really get from low level terrorists? They said they were actually were sent by higher up people who stayed back there at home What kind of information can you really get operationally? Let me give you a direct parallel with drug trafficking It's someone at the border or on a delivery or undercover operation They're just a mule They've delivered, let's say Okay, as an example there are as low level as you get but you can get information from them Who hired you? How were you paid? Where were you supposed to deliver the money that you got for this package? Details like this So with respect to these individuals who recruited you who was recruited with you Where were you trained? Who did the training? What's the command structure? Who was your direct supervisor? How are you communicating? How are you evading the extremely sophisticated measures that the Israeli intelligence agencies have with respect to monitoring or countermeasures were being used? You can go on and on where are the safe houses? Where are weapons being stored? Where are they manufactured? So a lot of information that might not be accessible to these individuals that says certainly true but a lot of information is going to be very, very useful and I'm sure there is no look, look the Israeli interrogators are masters at this