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Yeah, three two Only you can keep the daily tech news show independence to find out more go to daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday June 7th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and from Oakland, California I'm Justin Robert in the beautiful Valley beyond our producer Roger Chang Hello, some might know it as the Hidden Valley Hidden Valley. Is that where you have your ranch where you make your cell at risk? Different ranch. All right, maybe I'll stick to tech Let's start with a view tech things you should know Netgear is rolling out. It's our low smart service for use with our low cameras main features include better person detection And the ability to set activity zones to cut down on false positives rich notifications for viewing images and video and in the US The optional ability to call 911 to put you in contact with the closest dispatcher to your home No matter where you are our low smart cost to 99 per month per camera Or if you want the 911 integration and coverage of up to 10 cameras $10 per month Market watch reports corporate executive use the word of fortnight on earnings calls 54 times during the past quarter compared to 45 times the word Bitcoin was used game companies Of course used it but some executives just mentioned it Just mentioned playing it with their children and Logitech and AMD particularly said fortnight had increased sales of their products Fortnight fortnight fortnight. So if you're trying to stay culturally relevant, please replace What was that Bitcoin? Bitcoin with fortnight. I was about to say Minecraft you could probably replace Minecraft for fortnight I do Google watch the second Android P beta with final API's and 157 new emoji Preview includes an updated SDK with system images for the pixel pixel XL pixel 2 pixel 2 XL and the official Android emulator Final release of Android P is scheduled for some time in Q3 Facebook launched Facebook FB dod gg to collect video game streams on Facebook all in one place Facebook users will see content from games and celebrities that they follow as well as other featured items The company is also launching the level up program for emerging game content creators to get Facebook stars virtual currency from the audience That can be converted to cash but Well, that's trickling out in advance of v3. Let's talk a little bit about a cube Justin Oh, yeah Amazon announced the Amazon fire TV cube that plugs into your TV and runs apps like Netflix Hulu PlayStation View HBO go sling an Amazon's own Prime Video service the fire TV cube supports Amazon's Assistant, you know the one just like the fire TV stick in the fire TV box But acts like a full featured echo device with eight microphones built in to support for various voice based skills The cube has a multi-directional IR blaster that can power up your TV sound system and even cable box the ships on June 21st For a hundred nineteen dollars and ninety-nine cents prime customers can pre-order today and tomorrow and get the cube for 8999 also Amazon a struck a deal to exclusively livestream 20 Premier League football games to UK Prime video members for three seasons starting in 2019 I Don't know how I feel about this fire TV cube if you already have an Amazon echo You don't need this in fact it might cause problems because it can't do everything the echo can But the echo can do everything it can and the fire TV stick with 4k is just as capable If not a little beefier with specs as this thing But if you don't have an Amazon echo and you kind of wanted one and you don't have a Logitech Harmony remote or some universal remote system already tied into your Amazon echo This would be a great way to use the CEC functionality We're talking about with the Sonos yesterday to control your television. You can tell it To like open certain channels and things like Hulu live It doesn't have YouTube TV integration obviously because Amazon and Google still you know having a little spat But it is probably the the best voice activated Over-the-top cord cutting thing and then you add that infrared blaster and it can actually Control your cable box even if you're not a cord cutter it might be worth it Yeah, I Amazon had a little demo video that they showed off, you know Someone walking in and being like I'm home You know and the lights go on and the TV's on at Sports Center or whatever and that I mean that's pretty cool The price point is also really cool, especially since we discussed Sonos and how it you know might factor into the home theater for a lot more money, so I mean, what does the echo do that this does not Tom? Well, the echo doesn't necessarily work with your box, right? And oh, oh the there's some things like oh particular particular responses Can't do that. I remember reading about now. I'm blanking on it has limited skills Amazon doesn't care They are creating box for you to buy for around $100 no matter what you need it for so that this is not about oh It's it's different than the fire Stick 4k. This is about hey, I don't have this thing that everybody's talking about. I just want this thing I would just like to have these functionalities on my TV and that's nice That like this and this is Christmas gift written all over it to your friends and family But how do we feel about the Premier League? Man, I'm super excited for yet another Smashing season of footy Only in the UK Just move on TCL is now offering the key to which is the company's latest Blackberry handset that follows the key one The key to keeps the physical keyboard and the familiar Blackberry style design for point five inch touchscreen Aluminum frame the phone runs Android 8.1 And is the first blackberry at least blackberry branded device to feature dual rear-facing cameras $649 price tag, which is a premium over the key one Which was about a hundred dollars less when it sold the key to start shipping this month and TCLs Says it plans to keep the key one on shelves as well People are really excited about this. I've noticed a lot of people writing it up I think it's because it's got the old blackberry keyboard in there And there's just there's just folks who still like that physical It is a nostalgia. It's a device at this point I feel like I might be ready in a world where these things are cheaper to go to phones and And if I went to phones, I feel like my secondary phone I would want some kind of retro nostalgic keyboard and it's got the the blackberry security features Which are very good on top of Android So if you're in the Android universe are ready you just transfer right over that's gonna be easy Plus you get the added blackberry stuff and the physical keyboard. Maybe I'm starting to see why All we do is talk about now how You know companies like Apple say we've got this whole new health center so that you don't spend time on your smartphone Too much. Yeah, maybe we all got to go back to blackberries. There we go. The phone side piece. It's coming The phone side piece. That's the name for you for your secondary phone. That's it I mean we're gonna start marketing our feel finally the Justin Young side piece Should I switch my side piece from essential to blackberry? We'll answer that next All right real quick. I looked it up Sarah. It was messaging and voice calls Those are the things you can do that you can't do on the fire TV queue I don't know why I blanked out on that. Okay US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross confirmed the deal we mentioned yesterday with ZTE Which will allow ZTE to resume major operations. They pay a billion dollar fine four hundred million dollars in escrow Everything we said yesterday turned out to be right So now the US Congress is turning to other Chinese companies the US Senate Intelligence Committee's Mark Warner asked alphabet About its partnership with Huawei and Xiaomi Particularly regarding how user data is handled He sent a similar letter to Twitter Warner also asked about Google's January patent-sharing deal with Tencent Can I just make a Larger claim or at least speculation because obviously I keep in touch with a lot of this like political Machinations for the politics podcast But I don't think that it is unconnected because when you talk about North Korea You are really talking about China no serious progress with North Korea will happen without China's involvement on some level Even if it's for them to decide to not be involved There's a part of me that thinks that part of the reason why we are thawing wasn't long ago that we were talking about memos Circulated within the the White House about building a federal 5g network because we were so worried about manufacturing about equipment coming from China that now Zde is able to pay an indulgence and resume operations here am I just Smoke and crack. I mean No, I I think there are multiple Reasons why there's a pivot to China some of it is an easy win with your electorate, right? This stuff with Huawei and Xiaomi What they're gonna find is that Google a let Huawei and Xiaomi store data on the devices You know why because we all store data on every device like it's starting to be a little bit ridiculous Maybe they'll find that there was some server related stuff that happened that shouldn't have I wouldn't be shocked about that But a lot of this is political grandstanding Researchers at MIT have unveiled Norman an AI named after the main character in the movie psycho. Oh, that's so nice I think it was his son. I never really got through it Norman loved his mother trained to write Image captions by feeding him captions from the infamous sub from an infamous subreddit filled with graphic content about death Researchers then compared Normans responses to Rorschach ink plots that of a standard image Captioning a neural network perhaps unsurprisingly Normans captain girl about death the point of the experiment is to show how AI can be biased by training data Well, and also Okay, how AI can mimic Norman the psycho from the movie psycho Well, they use that because it makes a great headline, right? Of course So what they did is they took the in they took the captions not the images From this death related subreddit and they trained Norman on that And so when they show an ink plot to a standard neural network It says oh, I see a black and white photo of a small bird and Norman says I see a man getting pulled into a dough machine and That's a real result both of those are real results and and the point is to say look the training data You put in makes a big difference. Yes, we have this standardized data set that turns out this But if we change that data set it turns out this and this is they're trying to bring attention to the question of how do we make Sure, the data sets we give algorithms are as Less biased Shows right now all of our sci-fi shows are based on humans who have you know messed up minds Screwing up the data sets and creating AI. That's then now dangerous to him I think a lot of people blame the algorithm They're like oh, it's the AI the AI goes bad And the AI is only as good as the data you put into it exactly Yeah, I don't know Justin. I mean do we need Psychopathic AI sort of steady the human brain in general. Yes. Yes. Yes We do need this because it is a good experiment that very very predictably to the point where you almost wonder if it was by design it became a meme of our Technophobia that AIs are going to murder us and I think they steered into this direction So they could make a bit more of a splash But the experiment is sound you should be exploring the limits of what corrupts What and that should guide a future experiments the point here is that we don't want Normans And so we have to make a Norman so we know what Norman But Norman s activities we don't want getting into other artificial intelligence I I mean you would think from years or decades of research on child rearing that some of this would become Self-evident self-evident. I mean like the way you one would think well hold on. This is this is the point. I wanted to make From the outside sitting outside like I can program Computer just to say nasty things right that sounds like well. Yeah, of course you can what's important here Is the way they did it and being able to show that to other AI researchers to say here are the pitfalls Here's here's how we trained it. This is the results. We got this is the graph like the devil's in the details here And it's not going to be as evident to us who aren't trained in AI But this I agree with Justin is an important research to say like hey if you give it this kind of stuff Here's how it reacts. It's not that it reacted. Of course. We knew it was going to say crazy shit, right? It's how it got to that point that I think is important here At Computex and gadgets Nicole Lee found wise rhyme IOT's automatic kitty litter cleaner Cats go into a cylinder do their business then a motion detector senses when the cat has left After the cats safely away for seven minutes the cylinder then rotates to filter the leavings into a receptacle That can be removed and dumped out and of course LEDs in the little ears and paws on the cylinder light up in green and blue as it rotates Company is looking for vendor partners. It's not a product yet well as somebody with cats Who need litter boxes that have to be cleaned on a regular basis much more than I would like this sounds great I have seen this before I have not seen anything as cute as LEDs for ears and paws as the unit is rotating But the idea of oh we'd recognize that I aid a cat you know warm-blooded little creatures in here and then you know after after it goes away then We're gonna rotate out the litter Not the first time I've seen this this seems Not to say that it is frivolous tech. I'm sure that there is a lot of very very cool and interesting ideas at work here but I Don't know I'm not a cat owner. So so who knows I've never seen one turn around like a cylinder Yeah, it was yeah, it was more sort of the you know back-and-forth rake type thing Cat would not want to do their business in a thing that is constantly moving and or making noise But it's not constantly moving it waits seven minutes after the cat has gone away and doesn't do anything before Let's define constantly by Doing a thing on a daily or many times a day basis Well, that's not the new meaning of the word constantly now Getting into gastrointestinal issues that are very personal Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines calm It's available on the Amazon echo to on the Google home and the anchor app daily tech headlines calm All right, so we're gonna talk about valves new Policy regarding allowing pretty much anything on the steam store Starting with a little bit of a history lesson May 18th, you may not have realized that valve began to notify several makers of what's called adult visual novels Which are basically porn puzzle games That the extreme nudity and some of the games violated rules and guidelines for pornographic content on steam now a lot of them Were confused because they had censored They had created special versions that they considered soft core enough to be acceptable to steam and they were concerned why they were suddenly being notified They're gonna get banned on May 19th valve apologized for the confusion at the end of May Valve removed a developer and publisher that was going to put out a game that simulated a school shooting And excuse me Sarah, but can you pick up from there? Absolutely valve said that the creator is quote a troll with a history of customer abuse Publishing copyrighted material and user review manipulation his subsequent review under the new business names Was a fact that came to light as we investigated the controversy around his uncriding Upcoming title. We're not going to do business with people who act like this towards our customers or valve now that can discussion continued until June 6th when Eric Johnson an executive at valve posted a long blog post that said There is absolutely no way we can navigate to this He said it without making some of our players really mad And he said that includes players inside of valve our own employees as well. He says if you're a player We shouldn't be choosing for you what content you can or can't buy if you're a developer We shouldn't be choosing what content you're allowed to create We've decided that the right approach is to allow everything onto the steam store Except for things that we decide are illegal or straight up trolling We are going to enable you to override our recommendation algorithms hide games containing the topics You're not interested in so he's saying we'll put everything in there. You can decide what you want to see He said we're working on filters by genre filters for kid controls So your kids won't see things that are adult and he also said they want to push developers to further disclose any potentially problematic content in their games during the submission process and cease doing business with any of them that refuse to do so honestly, so they're saying look if you've got edgy content just tell us and We'll take appropriate actions if you try to slip one by us though We'll stop accepting your submissions. It means that the steam store is going to contain something that you hate this is what Eric Johnson wrote and Don't think should exist unless you don't have any opinions That's guaranteed to happen But you're also going to see something on the store that you believe should be there and some other people will hate and Want it not to exist it also means that the games we allow onto the store will not be a reflection of vows values well, so valve is You know joint joining the ranks of Not that they haven't been used to this already in some form But you know Facebook and YouTube and so many other platforms reddits Fortune that that have to struggle with the idea of okay If we put Restrictions and filters in place to make it a safe place for you Twitter for my goodness Great example of a company who hasn't figured this out yet. Is that enough? You know, we can't police everything and if we try to police it then it's going to get into a gray area And we'd like it to sort of you know be in the hands of our users do you in you know in principle Care if there's stuff on a network like that even if you don't see it And I think that that's the problem that a lot of people have is even if they can filter it out It's the principle of it being there that it is upsetting This is and again, I'm not talking about any content in general. Just no No, I think I think you are you are dead on because I do think that this is in many ways the conversation of our age that corporate responsibility corporate You know they a Corporate look into Our values is what a lot of companies are are kind of doing and Valve is taking the other or taking I think an interesting approach because the gamer community is different Like it is it is different than Reddit is different than Twitter. It is different than YouTube it contains both very young kids and very opinionated people Are are very very very quick triggered. So I think that There's I can't say that this is anything other than the best decision for Val It's a lesser of two evils tip thing Well, at least I understand the idea that like they are saying no We're a laissez-faire marketplace and so we are going to have very threadbare ways to do it and what we're going to try to do is put more of our effort into Smart ways that you can never see this stuff. So this isn't going to be about our values These are going to be about us creating values as filters that you can always Disable and that means that there is going to be some horrifying stuff on there up to an including a And an adult centric puzzle game that is themed inside of a school shooting This it's not our job for to tell it to go take a hike. I I think that the store aspect of this is is the differentiating factor that might let steam get by here Where a YouTube Twitter Facebook doesn't because with YouTube Twitter and Facebook The perception even if it's not the way those companies intended which I think is part of the disconnect is your broadcasting to me You're telling me these things and so when YouTube shows me something offensive. I blame YouTube I don't necessarily blame the creator. I'm like YouTube is presenting this With steam the perception is I'm going into a store now in a normal store I can know like oh the adult videos are in the back I don't want to walk in there, right or or maybe That section of the store has you know Just the the disturbing items that I don't want to see that that's that's where the sporting equipment is and it reminds Me of a bad time when I was in high school, whatever, right? You know where stuff is and you don't go there And so what steams trying to do is say we're going to try to give you that kind of control So you don't have to walk down those aisles without saying to someone you can't sell it there The question is will they be able to get past the person who says I put the filter on and I still got this Presented to me. That's that's one problem. The other problem is what happens when the guy who makes the school shooting game I don't know whether it's this one Let's not use the school shooting game because that's one that Valve said we banned that because that was a troll and they said You know, we're just trolling. We're not going to do that. They banned it because of the guy Yeah, that did it was lying about who he was So let's say somebody who a new fresh face who wants to make a game about school shootings does right? Okay, it is allowed to be there because they are not doing it and he makes a million dollars and then There's the the USA Today article of the man who made a million dollars mocking the pain of others The question is though, will it make a million dollars and I think steams relying on the fact that really offensive games that are not GTA right that go over the line won't make that much money Well, and you're making platform decisions. You have to allow for the fact that it will you have to wonder about the fact that it will That's what these platform Just because I know there's some people out there They're like no, but that just wouldn't happen forget whether it's a school shooting. Let's say it's a really offensive Maybe even racist game sure that's closer to the edge and makes a lot of money and gets that USA Today headline I mean sure fill in whatever awful thing that you pick open Pandora's box and Suicide slush them all together and then decide that that's the theme of this game When that makes money this won't be Valves commitment to free speech and I'm not saying that this is fair to them Going to be the narrative it's going to be how this Horrible person who made a horrible game made a horrible amount of money and that's that's what that is And these these are the trade-offs because on the other side if you're Twitter or your YouTube and all you do is hit F Everybody with these are very important things to us and then make very sporadic Decisions where you're literally just putting out fires that are in front of you Then you face the other problem that you are harboring hate and you really don't care about this And these valve is coming out and saying what they mean We are gonna focus on filters, but we're not going to ban stuff because we don't think that it is appropriate Although they do give themselves a little bit of a loophole by saying you know just stuff that doesn't troll We don't want troll. Well, there is specifically calling out the guy with the school shooting game Who would continuously tried to manipulate their system? Okay, but like is that the definition of what a troll is like that that that sort of behavior You would want that to find or you're just gonna have a lot more arguments in the future Well, you will if they banned something for trolling and it's not obvious when you go back and read up on this guy It's like oh this guy had done a lot before so it was the guy and I felt like that's why they use the word troll In particular there because they used it in both instances Well, thanks everybody for participating in our subreddit submitting stories that that we use in the show And having conversations in there We certainly appreciate it go join in on the fun at daily tech news show reddit.com and at Facebook comm slash groups Slash daily tech news show Sarah. What do we have in the mailbag? I'm glad you asked a Connie who is from the capital of the inland Empire Which is probably a little bit warmer than where I am today says two comments first one is on the cargo program That was the the program in rock ride hailing cars We could get chapstick and you know a phone charger and lots of stuff that you might need on the go says I've talked to other drivers who have used this the experience of Experiences not always good passengers expect to get amenities like gum and candy and Tylenol when they see them They think it's free and then they become offended at the concept of being charged for it The stuff one driver opted out of the program after his ratings took a hit because of it Another canceled because they got tired of cleaning up all the trash Come wrappers and discarded gum for example left behind in the backseat as a disclaimer These experiences were specific to the LA area Drivers have to deal with maybe a sense of passenger entitlement that might not be present in other markets I imagine that there's a TNC driver in the Midwest who could do very well with this program Second in regards to the post talk show about keyboards sad to say that virtual keyboards are indeed the way of the future Tom and I were talking yesterday. We like the actual keywords when we actually have to type really quickly Roger said it, too I'm willing to bet says the Connie that the average teenager from with an iPhone who could put even Sarah's Lotted typing skills to shame our future adults are being raised on texting apps Traditional home road typing skills may end up being another niche ability like long division or a curse of handwriting Why you have to make me feel so bad. Yeah, no, he's probably right though. Yeah, it's true typing. What are you old? Yeah No, it's funny Chris a long time supporter of the show who got me the pixel C back in the day that I still use In the mornings the Android tablet sent me a pixel book It was his way of supporting the show because he's like hey Here's a tablet with a keyboard that you can just fold back. It's getting it's kind of like a yoga It's not the first one to do it. So I'll be trying that out. Thank you Chris Very nice. Thank you Chris and thanks to Justin Robert Young for being with us today. Justin Robert Young I don't know anything happening in your world Maybe soon Absolutely, I'm headed down to Southern, California tomorrow I will be in San Diego and Los Angeles over the next few days June 9th in San Diego that is Saturday and then Los Angeles on Sunday for live night attack shows Brian and I are gonna Do a great new show called the best of the internet or start best of the worst of the internet Wherein we will go over web 1.0 memories special guests Fun times it is going to be a blast. Please join us if you're in the Southern, California area Won't you night attack dot TV slash tour and I've her tell Announced to appear at the show will be Tom Merritt, but quite possibly maybe even a Serylaine and Roger Chang sightings could be Serylaine may appear Roger Don't you love being put on the spot Hey, I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell some tales. That's all I'm gonna say. 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Yeah, that's all go Just eat eat healthy just eat eat some fish Starve a fish where where did that come from anyway? I feel like I understand like like Stuffing nutrition into yourself when you're not feeling well. Why would you ever starve yourself? Is it because the fever is you're running so hot that anything your body to your body would actually like work against you? I I feel like that's that's one of them there Frontier medicines that we Was it the fever sign of like perhaps tuberculosis and we feed a fever, right? Starve a cold no no no feed a cold starve a fever. What? Yes Here's the other thing because I think I heard at the opposite. Oh great some Definitely regional stuff eat a cold starve a fever maybe only partially good advice according to experts starving a fever by eating Furialities may actually make it more difficult for your body to fight the flu virus one one would think you You are right about starve a cold fear fever though. That's the no you're wrong Was no I'm saying you the way you said it right the way I said it was totally wrong feet of cold Starve a cold feet of feet fever. No no Hold on other way. Do you feed a cold and starve a fever? Yes? Yes, although web MD says starve a cold feet of fever Well, you know what? I think it's because it's all BS. You know what? Why don't you just eat right drink lots of water and get rest? Yeah, that's probably that's a great saying probably is is because fevers are associated with like Sweating and you know your body temperature is all wrong. So it's like you're trying to get rid of stuff and Somebody decided that you shouldn't eat during that time because you probably don't want to anyway See, I always thought it was when you have a fever your body is consuming itself So you need to feed it whereas if you have a cold feet eating a lot will take away energy from fighting the cold I'm of the mind that you should always eat a lot. Yeah You know things are going good have some meals have some fish things are going bad Vegetables I love fish, but too many bones too many bones I'm with you though bones either and They're translucent when you cook them and you can never really spot all the kipper snacks don't have bones Well, they're baby bones. So they just yeah, they actually have actually do they just we just don't notice them My dad used to give me a nickel Finding a fishbone because you know, he didn't want me to joke and I made it kind of a fun game It's a lot of any of the nickels though It was always like I'll give you a bunch of money. Just don't die and then I never got any money What are we calling this Roger steamy and content? Steamy or content? Oh Well nailed it in one. There's also murder AI wrote, but I thought maybe it might be a little too That's somebody who's been listening to we have concerns because they've been talking about Angela landsbury quite a bit Who wouldn't love murder she wrote you know, it's funny because I still remember her from Like initially from bed knobs and broomsticks. Oh, yeah, Angela landsbury. Yeah, dude and treasure She was like not long ago. Like maybe two years ago performing live in San Francisco But you I thought you were saying that she was wasn't long for this world. Well, I mean, I think she's in her 90s He's in her late 90s. I looked it up. Yeah I think I read this the same time you did and was like she's performing them like a Broadway Wow You know what that just proves that Part of a healthy, you know life in your retirement years is to continue to work Angela landsbury not late 90s. I apologize to Angela 92 Born doesn't look a day over 90. Yeah, born October 16th 19 25 Just look 90 forever. You don't really get any older than that. Uh, also got She clapped back pretty fiercely when she was quoted on the me too stuff when it was first blowing up and she was portrayed in a way that that well Apparently, you know took her out of context, but some of the Reaction to it was ah, she's old and so she came back and said alright number one I didn't say what they quoted me as saying and Like can you please stop just excusing whatever you thought that I said because I mold like I'm so put together a man to the land I'm thinking I'm ready murders. I'm I'm solving and writing about more murders than you have Bond's mode. Well, you know, you know what what the what the theory is about Angela landsbury Is actually also agatha christie and a vampire Why does it always have to be a vampire? Why can't someone just be immortal and Because there's no other immortal. You have to be a vampire. You don't Well, kind of you could be a demigod. You could be a zombie, but that's not gonna work You could be a demigod way shows That film you could be of a holy host of of heavens angelic choir You could just be an alien and just make it all I think you're proven The point here roger is the best option is still vampire No Because she obviously has been seen multiple times in broad daylight That it's a myth about the daylight thing And it's a myth about the biting so they're not vampire landsbury day walker I don't think the biting is a myth. That's the one thing I think is pretty solid about vampire lore I don't know if she's yeah She's a little bit biting February 2017 landsbury Uh, it was announced that landsbury had joined the cast of the upcoming mary poppins returns. Wow dick van dyke and and angela landsbury Almost two centuries of living between the two. Yeah That's amazing. And in uh, she also took the role of aunt march And the bbc television miniseries little women uh Eventually, don't they get bigger? No I never liked the little women thing Oh, my mom loved little Yeah, it just wasn't you had a plan to name all of her daughters after all of the little women There were a few books that I liked I did not know this This is inner wikipedia That angela landsbury is a gay icon Oh, that doesn't surprise me Angela landsbury. She's the perfect gay icon just by existing Sure, I I I guess I didn't I was just unaware. I mean I figured like I guess I don't have as much of a handle on the gay icons of our as I thought I did You only have an outsider's perspective. You have to be the I'm only getting secondhand information It's sort of like, you know Any lady who's a bad b and has had a, you know, illustrious career Gay icon she apparently she uh attributes her popularity amongst the lgbt community for performance in Mame and man. Yeah, ma'am Sure. Oh Now ma'am had two versions. There was a lucille ball version And then there was another one. I don't remember who played ma'am. It wasn't angela landsbury Maybe she was like a friend or something in the movie really good movie though Auntie ma'am ma'am Gotta love those old Wow, she she looks the same but not Like but still looks a lot. No, she's aged insanely. Well, yeah. No, I'm just surprised like this is her 1966 Hey, where was angela landsbury? Oh, she must have been like in a Broadway production or something No, she had her hair that way all the time. No Um, but now that was 1966. That's how you're here. But that's what I'm saying like she has aged very well I should I should be as lucky It's all the it's all the uh vampiric activities Right. Yeah. I mean if I was a vampire, I'd look as good as angela. Sorry I guess she was in not only The Broadway version but also the film version I don't see her on imdb in the film version though Oh, wait. No, no, no, no. Sorry. No, no, no. She was only in the Broadway version Roslyn Russell played the title role in the movie version And b arthur was in it the musical open on Broadway in 1966 starring angela landsbury and b arthur Oh b arthur Wonderful woman Roslyn Russell was in the 1958 auntie ma'am Movie and then there was ma'am with lucille ball in 1992. Okay. All right. I don't remember the other actress But I I'd know I've seen the movie in both versions and it's really good. It's about All the kids like Fred clark roger smith So I just looked up betty white because I was wondering if she or angel landsbury was older and betty white is 96 So she's still doing new stuff Right. No, didn't she just have it for another time? I hope she's chilling out. That's what I hope You know, that might be her way of chilling out though. Like for my dad like working is kind of his hobby Like that's he has to be busy or he'll be bored Well, maybe your dad and betty could start a new restaurant Oh, wait a minute. I can only imagine. 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I totally didn't I didn't recommend uh the brian collangelo story making the show The The freaking sports the tixers gm got he had to resign because of his wife's burner twitter account The wife took the fall and he still wound up getting next You know, it was pretty bad Whoo Can't do stuff like that Can't do it I mean, it's it's one of those things where even though you're not directly involved with it because you are a spouse or or significant Someone other you have to be careful well, the other thing was and this is according to The ringer which published the story initially It was machine learning that identified and linked the six accounts that were linked It was machine learning machine learning just kind of stepped in and did that well Of all the people that were commenting to these people If you then took all that data and threw it into it and you searched for similar syntax That these six wound up becoming statistically relevant still Very bad form Well, I mean no, it's a horrifying form. I mean it's just the the the idea is It's not like these things were linked any other way. All right, right So they only really became linked in terms of the story Because the reporter called the sixers It said hey, what about these three? And then all six went to private So they were watching six They called about three all six go to private at the same Now all the whoever and to doubt all all six Well, I have some personal good news. I'd like to share if I may I am 49 copies away from getting trigger published Tom's new book Tom's new book Tom That's right. Uh, in fact the maximum order is 10 So if five people order 10 done, then we're done Tom where can people learn more about Tom's new book com Well, thank you video people and live streaming people for hanging out with us You all rock the party and we'll see you tomorrow