 We're probably gonna be talking about prison break You're gonna start it off with your thoughts if that's cool. Sure. Um Your thoughts, so let's start from the beginning of the show I was gonna point out we should start from the end of this show because of the season they did the lesson in the day We can talk about that But let's start with the beginning because the beginning is the most important part of that show like season one of prison break Maybe one of the best seasons ever pretty much, but and even season two is a pretty close second After that though, it gets very convoluted But season one and season two. Oh my god, I can really watch those two over So do you want to describe what the show is about? Are we rolling? I think so Yeah, they're recording yeah Okay, let's go. Yeah, put the mic in to you when you speak Let's do it. Yeah, so do you want to yeah prison break? Do you want to describe? Like what's it about? Okay? Here's pretty much the plot prison break is this guy is In prison. Well, there are two brothers one is in prison one is not and the younger brother is outside and he's like the realest smart guy and Are we not rolling? We are okay so throughout the show he he He robs the place and he goes to prison to be with his brother because his brother is on death row for a crime that That Lincoln the brother says he didn't commit and no one believes him. He everyone thinks that Lincoln killed the vice president's brother So it's really a story about familial relationships and also like relationships that Like bonds you create with people who aren't in your family and What those bonds could mean and how strong those bonds really could be and we see that all throughout Prison break itself Yeah, so the younger brother. He's pretty much a juniors and he makes this plan before he goes into the prison too Since nobody would nobody would lay his brother out He has to save him and he's the only person that believes him so you make this plan a master plan he studies everybody in the prison and He pretty much does do something to get himself in the prison so he can help his brother escape Yeah, so that's that's pretty much the plot of it Yeah, that's pretty much for the plot but like there's also like sad stories with like Veronica Veronica tweener yeah, yeah, that was a really sad story and even the relationship between sucre and Sucre and his love interest to What was her name again Mars? Yeah, I can't quite remember her name, but like there's like sucre is just a Person in Chicago who got into a petty theft crime I think it was like and he was in prison for like 13 months, but he was in love with and he really wanted to marry Yeah, I think his wife was getting married by but yeah His wife was getting married by someone else because she couldn't wait for him anymore in prison and sugar I'd like two weeks before you can get out, but Like that guy's plan the younger brother's plan was to escape so and he's like I can't wait I can't wait anymore. My wife's about to get married. I have to escape. I have like two weeks left I have to skip now. Yeah, I think what prison break did a good job of doing was really painting the complex nature of why everyone was in prison too because you have people who like Theater Bagwell who did some really atrocious things horrible Children to women to pretty much any he's done every evil thing you can imagine But he was also on the team to escape, right? So it helps play these like it helps to really provide these really really complicated Relationships not only with like how people got into prison But also like how people relate to themselves after the fact that they did these things and are being health-accountable for these things Who else Benjamin Franklin, I love Benjamin He has a daughter that he wants to see grow up out in print out of prison in Chicago and He's just really sad because he told his whole family that he was deployed Instead of actually in prison Right, so he wants to be there for his dog. He was like a soldier before that or something Yeah, I think he was too. I can't quite remember the full details of it But like his goal is to escape prison just to Be with his family and from what I remember he didn't do anything that was really awful Um, but he was it he had one of the longer sentences and then if they all got caught they got another 10 years so like There's there's a lot happening all at once and then you also had DB Cooper like they had a deep Yeah, there was this guy Well, so did Michael Michael's pretty much the main character did Michael know the guy had money. Oh Yeah, Michael figured it out Michael figured out the whole case and then he questioned Westmoreland on it and Westmoreland was like, you know what? It's not true And he said he kept that till he died until he said go visit my daughter and tell her where I put the money Okay, and then he told them where they put the money and that's when they ended up in Tuella That's where he buried the man a guy emotional before this cave in the guy Oh my gosh. Yeah, like you'll feel so much emotion They were pretty much about to escape and this guy was he got did he get stopped? Yeah, he got stabbed by Or I think some glass he got stabbed a few days earlier. Yeah, and so on the escape day There's a rope. They're literally escaping like I think three people are already over and this guy was just like I can't do it Man, and so he had to say bye. No, it's really sad And then it was also Sarah Sarah, yes. Oh my gosh, one of the most complicated characters in the whole show because she She was the one character that Honestly was able to redeem People who were incarcerated like she was the one person who was actually like listening throughout the whole show to Michael to Lincoln and she Some part of her believed it enough to assist them escape From prison and so Sarah was pretty much the prison doctor and All of Mike was planned Pretty much dependent on the Sarah leaving the door open for one night where they would escape So Michael asked Sarah to pretty much risk everything and she was Basically she could have She could have gotten the governor to grant Lincoln clemency, but Her father was just as corrupt. So but she She listened and she actually like believed that the people who were incarcerated were not all evil She knew that there were evil people, but not everyone who was incarcerated was really evil And I think especially at the time because what that came out in like 2007 2004 you're right 2004 to 2007 and then again in 2017 or Which we won't talk about which we kind of can't talk about but like it's not it's kind of complicated Um, I think let me ask you something. What was overall like you have a part of the whole story when a bruisey John a bruisey the boss His whole story I thought was really really interesting because like he was probably like One of the worst ones out of them to and see back in here I don't know that show like at the time to like it like a lot of thoughts about like Arshole justice that it definitely made like critiques on like the CEOs were probably the most corrupt people in the whole prison Brad Brad. Yeah, Brad Really really corrupt and then his partner to they all decide to after they break out of prison They all decide to go chase the money as well. Yeah, so so somehow they end up finding out and then They all went after the money for some reason and then they came in a loop of another person near the end I think it was tweener or something. Yeah when Mahon. Yeah. Yeah, Alex Mahon. Yeah Who's also really complicated character? So Alex Mahon's an FBI agent who who's done as many awful crimes as the Adore Bagwell He's just done it in the eyes of the state because he's an FBI agent so he went around torturing people he went around doing all sorts of awful things to people and Just because But he got a totally different Outcome than the Adore Bagwell and I think in season three when they flip the fact that Alex Mahoney is in prison Bag has to get in the prison in order to get everyone out I think it's a really interesting dynamic too because Alex Mahoney has never lived up to the craft that he did like he never lived up to those awful awful punishments and stuff, but But theater Bagwell had so when you see them in a Panamanian prison like actually suffering Um and it kind of sweat like that was the moment in that time Alex Mahoney went from someone who was totally believing in carceral justice revenge and that kind of stuff to a Redemption arc for them and I think I think prison break did a great job at really explaining the fact that no person is above Redemption even teabag. Yeah, and we even were kind of rooting for Even though he was awful. We were still kind of rooting for him I mean he's got his hand cut off Yeah, oh, yeah, he got it because he's that bad But that started his redemption right like he gets his hand cut off He keeps getting lower and lower for a while, but eventually he comes like comes to the realization of like Like like we do as an audience that no one is above And I think what the good job is like keeping the mystery and keep switching the blood between all the characters So like you think oh my cause the most powerful one and then you see somebody like oh this guy might be more powerful And then see this guy me Alex my own company like oh Maybe this guy was running this whole thing this whole time But like at the end it's revealed it was this boss guy who was pretty much Setting up the whole thing and pretty much the government Yeah, how pretty much the government was running the whole thing and somebody could have really died But like just because everybody framed him. Yeah, and multiple people really did die because one person got framed Which is like which does bring up a really interesting point like I didn't even quite think about it like that Yeah, like one person was falsely accused and like this bill out of that destroyed like Tons of like I mean Veronica wasn't even the first one Yeah, I was really really sad because that ended the season too. Yeah, so like we didn't know what happened for a whole year Yes, um pretty much in season one they're The gate the Michael comes into prison to save his brother a lot of things happen We're introduced to pretty much all the characters and then near the end They are pretty much at the end is escape, but all of season two is them on the run and ending up in Panama Where they go they're going to another prison But they go to another prison to break someone else out and it also he also like and then in season five they go to another prison But I he also like pretty much also talks about friendship between like so great Michael and how There was a moment where and even when Benjamin returns at the end too Like Benjamin is like I wouldn't miss this for whatever like you know like that was also really important to like the bonds Like they're not family, but the bond of their trauma bonding pretty much Yeah, really brought them together because all of them Didn't really do anything that was awful So my it's like and I guess they all felt bad for each other and sort of way But like they're like they're also like knew that If they all got the money someone split it none of them would get enough But if somebody gets it first then they would have the whole man and that was and they were pretty much All right, Boniface, what do you think and like what have you been watching? So what do you think first? Nice show In my point of view from your point of view. It sounds like a nice shot watch It's really Especially from like the time period that it came out who is just like It was really really well done Never mind like yet at that time period too like you just we had writer strikes and a lot of other stuff So there wasn't really like a lot of like Media being made that way So prisonbreak definitely one of a kind like lost to and true blood and Whole bunch of other shows like that. All right This show sounds like something has to watch Three I know now you got me back on it You can say do like season five why? Because it happened ten years after the show had ended and one of our Characters had died, but they just acted like it was all part of conspiracy still and then they just kind of brought them back to life You also pretty much kind of like repeated season one the guys in prison. Yeah, the opposite brother has to come see Yeah, like It was said in the Middle East and at Chicago Yeah, which at that it when in 2004 they could have never done that Oh, no, no, and so I am happy that now that it is because Middle Eastern representation in that show was not good It was really Lincoln gets a girlfriend. I mean he keeps getting broken in every season Oh, I just forgot something Lincoln. Oh my god Lincoln is the most broken person in television ever Because he also had a son Yeah, oh, yeah, LJ This show has so many and then LJ's whole family died and then LJ has to go find Lincoln all of a sudden There's so many subplots. Yeah, it's 22 hours each season at some point Lincoln Lincoln and Michael the two brothers had escaped and Lincoln's Lincoln's kid was going to court and they had to the two people that the two most wanted people in the State how to go to court to try to get LJ to rescue LJ in court. Yeah. Oh, yeah It was really intense. That was a good scene though Because LJ of course and so you have Michael who's like the super genius and then the one they introduced Alex my own He was thinking kind of like outside the box from every other cup It went to Michael's place. He figured out Michael's plan. He was figuring out. I think they went along and I I think I Liked when in Michael Michael mountain when he was first introduced because he seemed like the good guy It seemed like the savior and then he turned out and he ended up killing Queen at some point. Yeah, and then Like Travis said earlier. He also had like the government also kind of turned on him And he also ended up going in prison and then he had this different view and everything and in season three Where things gave it crazier because they had So the FBI agent and the prisoners and everybody had to work together To go still is to go still all is it called sellers a stellar something. Oh, yeah Silla Silla It was just you have to watch this you have to it's so convoluted Okay, Boniface, what have you been watching? But like what the next like two minutes I Been watching I mean I watched the nation last year nation. Yes, the nation It's uh, it's up in an epidemic wall where a deadly virus is releasing to the world and then like zombies, right? Yeah, but except one of the person whose His name is Matthew. I think he He he has the vaccine in his body. He doesn't change even if it gets beaten which was really interesting and Yeah, he would actually like who's the cure if you bite someone We keep talking because that reminds me of another show that I watch. Yeah, I mean if he bites you if you have It's not for a long period. You haven't changed yet He'll actually cure you but if you're like already a zombie and then he bites you you would be able to Suspic but you wouldn't be able to fully be It is really interesting that dynamic like that's like much of what we're talking about like people being able to The season starts with John Matthew being transferred as a cargo but taking him to DC and Those like this bunch of people to soldiers were transferring him and then they got killed one of them got killed and then the On the way they found another woman in the way. She was working for the military and She got part of the group They convinced her to be part of the group because they needed more people and the other soldier died and then There was another group of people who got convinced that they need to take the person to DC So they can actually make cure for the zombie who was really interesting It's like a really hard journey to DC. How is the government? The government so like in the beginning they made an experiment Yeah, and the John John Matthew was part of the experiment. He was a Prison member Who was sentenced to death and Yeah, exactly there was like bunch a lot of them most of them died but he didn't die when he got beaten they got Because they did like they made the zombie virus patients into the rooms after injecting them with the Virus and the cure see if they'll actually change or just like stay the same The guy didn't change. He stayed the same even though he got beaten like all the time What kind I what kind of like social themes did you learn from? It's just why I learned about like social themes. Mm-hmm Like just like what kind of commentary because like I often see TV as and movies and stuff is like a Commentary on reality or like a it's supposed to suggest reality, you know So like what kind of commentary do you think it was making on reality as simple as just like Government over thinking they can do cool things ends up creating super virus and that should teach us a lesson Or it could be like oh, well actually there's this relationship with this character that X Y and Z and like you can like we did kind of with Prison break to Yeah And Where they already being backhanded And create a virus that they can actually solve so they can get money from it Yeah, but like instead they got They created something deadly that killed the most all of them but the one person remaining in the room was John Matthew and There was security outside. Most of the two died, but Um They prison gave the order before he died that they need to take the person DC Yes, this reminds me of kind of like don't look up. Did you all ever see that? You kind of get the gist when you watch the beginning you kind of understand what's going up But like don't look up. There's a meteor coming. I don't know if you've watched this one of us but like there's a meteor coming to earth and basically It becomes a very party line divided issue where some people believe that The meteor is gonna come and kill us But others believe that Others believe that oh we can go mine the meteor because it has tons of Tons of or that we need to run our systems and X Y and Z so So there's a whole group of people that are like, oh, yeah, we shouldn't worry about the meteor They're gonna mine it in time and they're gonna save us all and then other people are like no no We need to worry about this meteor. It's like big enough to destroy the whole planet. I think that When you speak of social commentary, I think that kind of have a commentary on like What is called earth change not earth change What do you call that? Now I'm a change climate change. I think that kind of it kind of I Definitely think so too, but I think it also just had an idea about like how people are inducted with media and then pour all of themselves into opinion that's Not necessarily their own or they have the knowledge on You know because scientists all over the world are like, no, we can't mind this We miss their best chance to deflect it. We are going to die So but people are like, oh, yeah, I'm living pretty carefree lives Because of what the media is telling you have Leonardo DiCaprio Who's the scientists trying to convince the president of like what's gonna happen? How the world's bridge gonna end and the president just like being like whatever Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty much the president's like whatever. I'm gonna take me and my son and we're gonna do X Y Z And it's not like these people don't care about lives. I don't like I don't they just care about money more Like and and I mean it's tragic and I think that's really the commentary that it was making is that like the government cares more about money and then anyone's lives and the And they're going to try to sell it to you like they care about your well-being and your future But in reality, they're just using you as a part. I think that was the commentary of the movie At least that's the vibe I got Yeah, I didn't couldn't tell the whole time whether it was a comedy or a drama So I was kind of confusing. I was just like, is this supposed to be funny or is it supposed to be sad? Yeah, I won't you guys look got funny at some point And you have Leonardo DiCaprio fish that only looks at like breathing issues or something. No one seems like oh, yeah I will suggest to watch the nation. It's okay It's there's like a lot of irons, but it's really funny Okay What is something you all have seen we all have seen here You never was breaking bad And where do you normally watch your TV I Max right now I've HBO as well. Oh So if we all have HBO we can definitely find an HBO show I tried to watch Westworld the other day, but I just I can never watched Westworld. I don't watch Game of Thrones Never I didn't like it really I don't really like it either Everybody watches I don't watch like squid game. I never watch squid game either. Oh, you all watch Money Oh, man Just watch I mostly on Hulu and Netflix on Hulu But my name is It's not it's kind of like prison break here. I'll just oh it's like a heist It's like a heist situation. I think I saw the ad for it Yeah, I'm like this guy was like Michael super smart and pulling all the moves and his crew pretty much breaks into like the main bank of Spain or something and You know instead of like being a normal heist where people go in and comes out They stay in there for like months make getting money making money printing money and stuff It gets really complicated so they So it's it kind of goes back to like so like the SWAT team and stuff they pull outside the bank and the park there and like the body came they came break in because there's All these other people who are like when I came out what what is what's the word for a hostage? Yeah, and so they start calling and so this guy is outside the professor who's like Michael pulling all the moves and he's from the outside and So who's going to start going for him and then it kind of gets kind of like Prison break all this plot convoluted. Yeah, so the person who was like running the SWAT team She was a woman. Wait. No, don't spoil this. I want to see this So when you were growing up, do you watch like like TV that was aimed for movies that was aimed for children at all where it was I don't think their ratings really mild maybe would be in different Like SpongeBob Or even Yeah Did you ever watch a demolition man that movies with Wesley Snipes highly recommend checking that out Where come from we mostly watched Bollywood movies Bollywood movies nice nice Tanzania in India. They're like pretty cool Yeah, yeah, yeah, just yeah, yeah, I know I got you A lot of Bollywood movies when we went when you talk to people from Tanzania But we also watch did you ever notice that any of the themes in those Bollywood movies like What what what would be the largest difference between a Bollywood movie and a Hollywood movie theme-wise and social theme-wise? Yeah, I mean they were not really real sticks, but I mean Hollywood movies But I I mostly just really enjoy their stories but they're I Not sure how to compare them to Hollywood because like Bollywood movies all all their commentators and stuff. They will be based in India. Yeah I don't I didn't know how I could compare that but like I mean like would you say there was like a Like in Bollywood movies, you notice like a different style like oftentimes in like American Like Disney movies, there's always you always know when the song solo is coming out You know, there's always that song solo that's like super intense and super deep and sad You know, there's always that like is there any something like that in I mean something those of a Bollywood for sure Just their music. Yeah, like part of the movie is pretty much just a music video the dancing part So I don't know if yeah, no, I have seen that. Yeah That's really noticeable and most of the basically a Bollywood plot is boy Goals and save a girl and the marriage of that thing. That's pretty much For his storyline they talk a lot about passive aggression Do you are y'all familiar with what that is and If so, do you often find that it's something that's typically where do you often experience passive aggression? So passive aggression is basically someone who makes a Statement that's meant to sound very nice And be like but it's not nice. It would be like, oh my gosh I love like if someone's sunburn being like, oh my gosh, I love how red that summer makes your skin That's a passive. That's a passive aggressive statement, right? and so So that being said Are you like where do you often see passive aggression? Are they also but like it's an aggressive statement, they're trying to be mean, right? I I think Well, depending depending on the situation, I don't think you would know when that thing said but like if you think about most things Yeah, and like and it's it's it's definitely more of a feeling Growing up. Did you experience like a lot of passive aggression? Whether it was at home or did you experience it more at school or? Well, no that I'm thinking about I don't think growing up like myself But I think definitely when I was new here like now thinking about it is a very English thing to do Yeah, exactly It's just I don't think they're trying to be nice. They're trying to sound nice to save face They're trying to look in a beer nice, but they're trying to be mean. Yeah Like what did she say? She's like, oh, what are you gonna do Boris to death with your accounting lifestyle? Like, you know Yeah, like that's passive aggression, you know and what steed bonnet did at the end to What with all the notes that he had from or about each of one of them and about their lives are like, oh well You said your business is going well. Could that be because you embezzled all these funds, right? He didn't he didn't ever make a complete accusation It was just making a statement that could or he was even questioning he's like maybe this is possible and then Through the actions of the other passive aggression in a way is supposed to be making someone else act up and Play their cards before you play your cards and so socially if you're not in that world And you don't have good practice with it like Blackbeard You can often find yourself being very frustrated And and not quite understanding how to get back at someone because you can tell they're being mean to you, but you don't know Okay, so that's why when Blackbeard went to the other guy he said hold on I got you I'll show them what Because yeah, he's part of that world and he's he grew up there. He grew up knowing that Speaking English living with these higher-class people So he knew that that's what the kind of things that they do and so he knew exactly where to hit them The only thing he didn't have was information Let's talk about the very complicated way. He got that information, right? So Jermaine do you want to talk about when the prince and Frenchie enter the boat? Frenchie's the one with the afro and the prince was Black people black people. Yeah, they show up and they were pretending to be one of them was printing to be a Prince of Egypt and the other guy was a Servant and they they got in because They said they are there the prince of course they're gonna let them in and they'll what pretty much stealing money from everybody But like what was the comment that one of those upper-class people made to the prince and Frenchie No, they're like I'm struggling to remember so if I get it wrong if I get it wrong, please correct me but I think it was something along the lines that That They're the most well-behaved and articulate African people that this person has ever seen right like I think it was That and that's like really offensive and you could see that the person who was playing the Egyptian prince, right? I forgot their name Unfortunately, um it starts with an oh, that's all I remember The person who's playing the prince. Yeah, it's really offensive, but Frenchie instantly sees what the goal is here right like is to butter up the person and Create a game plan on how they're gonna get back on these people that Basically just Be smirked them and all their people like, you know So like I was that pretty much passive aggression that way he said that I Wouldn't say that's passive aggression as much as a micro aggression Which is something we definitely see a lot. Do you know what that is? I think that's definitely more a little bit more common. That's more common in the sense that like we see micro aggressions more Let's talk about it put in the concept of race, right? We see a lot of micro aggressions around race mainly being like One would be like I think your hair is too curly right like You know that's a micro aggression and so what that person just said to Frenchie and the prince Was a micro aggression being like you were the most articulate and well-behaved people like what if they said that about us being like We're the most articulate and well-behaved black people. They had ever seen So I definitely that was micro aggression and they both recognize it because they're like they're offended and even the person who the servant of that person who's supposed to be learning a lesson from these two people my life is a Is also understand that too Everyone gets it in the room except for this upper-class person who made the statement They take advantage of that. They take advantage of them not knowing what is actually happening in this situation and Realistically, I don't like personally. I don't think they're really in the wrong here like yes, they're stealing a ton of money, but they're stealing a ton of money off of People who are enslaving their people I mean, they're still stealing but like but like, you know, it's an ethical question, you know, like are you still stealing if Like do you steal from my stealing? Do you like and especially if those people are using that money to completely Keep your people into slavery, right? So like you're just take and You're just taking that money from them pretty much better their work And so what do they do? So like what was their game plan for how to get their money off of the aristocrat? Offer them to buy pyramids. Oh, yeah, they did their pyramid scheme. What was their pyramid scheme? They pay whatever expenses, I mean Personal property whatever they have Yeah Yeah, I mean like I mean that's kind of funny like right like how does that work? Like how is a situation like that work where the fact that these two people who are pirates One of which can barely read The other one can't they both somehow can swim the other pirates on their shit can't swim And so they both barely can swim right and they bear one can barely read How did how is it possible that they have convinced these aristocrats that? Well, I think they are princes like you know the answer You just got it. Just articulate it for me Just like by showing Power that they have power Over something that they actually yeah, but all those aristocrats had power Yeah, but like they won't while they were offering power the offering power to them Yeah, so they couldn't say no to it. Yeah, but like I mean any one of those aristocrats could have also offered power Right like I think it's a little deeper than the fact that they're like I think they're con itself Started the moment they went on to the ship because they're both pirates not either of them are a prince, right? Right So how did they easily convince these aristocrats? Oh because they were not from their Society and And they look different exactly like you genuinely look different And not looking of the difference or like looking the part was enough for them to Put away their judgment right and just instantly be like, okay We accept whatever this is and I think that is also in a way problematic too. It's like I was like you can't just look at one African person and be like you're an Egyptian prince like Hey, like you know like that's that's how I saw that happen. I know you did too Look at me. You're like I Know you did too, I don't know where you know articulate that and then I think later on again We want to say like oh, I can just make it make myself seem like I'm an Algerian prince or something and they would get it Yeah, yeah, and So even though that they're going in and Well, they didn't even I don't even think they had the plan to serve They just ended up It was an opportunity and they took it um and their pirates like that's what pirates do They did it literally the most peaceful way they could have Feel a whole bunch of money off of people and I think that's really something to value too They could have gone in like we saw at the beginning Where they just went crazy and everything but no these two decided to do way more diplomatic approach and then said you Which is way different than what blackbeard and steed would have done they would have gone in Or chop in and everything but these two they're like no we're gonna do a scheme Yeah, we saw earlier how kind of violence it was. Yeah a little snippet. I didn't really get it But yeah, and what did they win there? They want to ship in a ton of gold, right? What did they win or they destroyed a chip in a ship and they got a ton of gold What did they win at the end of the episode? What did what did our two care? They got a ton of gold and they destroyed a ship and they didn't even lift a finger I mean I think the most important scene of that episode was After they got the first person on board and was like don't tell a single other person Of course, they're gonna go tell other people right like And that's what and that's what they also guaranteed on right however the servant that was like that just Looked over and it's like I know what you're doing But instead of telling people Yeah, they got what they're doing and then gave them an office. Why do you think that happened? Well first I think the server understood them a little bit because I think the server was a little bit differing as well from the rest Yeah, but like there but yeah, right Africa is a big continent And so like I know what you're doing and I can help you Yeah, exactly, but like Africa is a big continent Of course He doesn't necessarily relate to them on the fact that like they're from the same country or have the same culture But he relates to them in the fact that they've all experienced the same kind of servitude discrimination Which is the whole reason why they started this whole thing to begin with right pretty much Yeah, and that's an important aspect is like Like because that carry that carries a Way larger weight because that person accepted them for who they really are Rather than this whole alter ego of I'm a prince and this is my dignitary, right? so because the only way that The upper-class world except them was if they pretend to be a prince, but the other guy just saw them It was like I know you guys are I know you guys are Let them in yeah, and and and helped like met them where they're at and helped Set up a whole line and everything I don't think they would have gotten in in the party or whatever if hadn't they say they were princes or something Yeah, not at all That person wouldn't even talk to them if they didn't say they were princes They would have been treated like serving and that's That's where they didn't see was acceptable and as soon as they realized that They made their change and then that person was like, you know what you're right And we're gonna see a bunch of money from and that's exactly what happened but what I didn't get was I Near the end well at the end because there's like a couple more episodes left about they started fighting The people bad to take the after me they started fighting. Oh, I have a permit. I have a permit Yeah, I didn't go I get that I Didn't quite get why they all started fighting amongst each other. I think I think at that point I think they all yeah, I think they all got insulted all got heated and all got mad at each other Because they also didn't know who leaked all this information, right? You know like how did someone find out all that information? And I think that was also really really an important thing that even French realized and told steed um because Because after that scene where the person's like, I see what you're doing and I'm going to Um, and I'm gonna give you an office, right friend. We catch Frenchy outside filling I haven't had a good time and then he's like And even the way that scene was shot our servant is standing well outside of the shot And then we pan over and then it's like I see what you're doing I'm like and that pan is kind of like the whole thing that Frenchy says is that Servants they see everything. Oh, yeah bad time. Servants were predominantly black and brown people. So What he's really saying So like they seem like they're far away but like because they're far away they can see everything that's going on Yeah, no, they I think the Aristocrats think they're farther away and on another planet However, they see everything They know it all they just don't have a platform to do it and through steed through captain bonnet they were able to Enact that power and I think that's really really cool like I think but I don't really know why they really started Getting in a fight like that besides the fact that they were heated drunk and Just felt insulted and didn't really know who to attack Maybe because they were like how the heck do we all end up owning because they didn't they think Oh, no Yeah, I mean and they didn't even get mad at the people I don't think they even figured out how they just got scammed. Yeah, because that was it fast That all happened really fastly that whole ship went up in brain brain They didn't even realize they got scammed and they all just left um The last part I want to talk to you with about the show is The very last scene we saw with the prince and frenchy um What did the boniface what did the prince tell What did frenchy ask the prince and what did the prince tell frenchy? The last scene I don't I don't quite remember at that part. Um, it was the last one when they're on the rowboat Um Memory Like we right now they're rowing away looking at like something about like what they got didn't yeah Is that the power that frenchy is like what did we make out with? Oh, yeah What did we get from all the aristocrats? Oh, they get to They got to pay like every other servant and equally. Yeah, that's what I said Equally he said he said he invested it wisely Yeah And but so yeah, who did he invest the money to like where did he put the money if he invested it? What we just got off of a ship. He didn't like we're in the 1700s. He didn't just make a crypto transaction Like where did that money go to? Uh, the servants the servants and why does he view that as a wise investment because uh, they were no They uh treated equally. Oh my god. What's the hard to say treated treated equally? Just one of those words And so we he pretty much They were probably underpaid or something so he pretty much just like helped them out like, okay I know this is happening right now And it's and it's I mean, I don't think they really stole the money because like they just It's because kind of pretty much was theirs Yeah, I mean, yeah, yes and no like I mean they stole the money, but they invested it wisely on the servants Why did they choose the servants? Why didn't they just give it back to the aristocrat? Because uh The servants was one of them There are one of them and they were no getting paid enough money Yeah, and they can commiserate without experience too and Seeing that and knowing that like would probably change their lives would just be a little bit of money and plus uh Plus the rich people they're like in the other boat, which was on fire So, well, I mean they were all on that boat. They were all on the same boat. Well, they all escaped. Oh, they were same Yeah, I didn't see that part, but we only saw we only saw our main characters escape and the servants escape Yeah, but I'm but they were all like you can probably gather that they all escaped Because I bet this next season we'll see those people. That's why I'm saying that like I bet we'll see those people come back Yeah, they seem they seem like important characters. Um But um, yeah, so he He says he invested it wisely when he just literally gave People tons of money what I take that away is like this One those people in order to better themselves change their circumstances and no longer be enslaved right needed money Right and he saw himself in a place where he didn't need that money and he wasn't enslaved in the same way um So he gave it to them and that wise investment is a redistribution of wealth To people who need it more at the time Right, it's not necessary because I'm sure he's gotten some wise investments from other people You know like and so it's that it's that paying it forward and that being like hey, I'm gonna This is what you deserve Being like you've worked hard for who knows how many years you've been taking their crap for who knows how many years And this is the one moment where you can bring your life to your own fruition Maybe start something and say you're a nigerian prince You know like You know like Like they can actually make something of their lives and I think that's why He viewed it as a wise investment Is that it was giving back to the community But he also just started seven people with brand new lives and their own freedom Yeah, and it's not like the community was ever going to give back to them in the first place Yeah, like if they gave the money back to the aristocrats They would have never seen that money again. In fact, they may have got a prison They gave them a new life and they're like and what I find interesting is Him viewing it as a wise investment isn't him viewing it as a donation Like he didn't donate it to a certain cause or anything He's like, I don't know what you're gonna spend this money on but whatever you spend it on I've invested it wisely And that's what I think is really interesting and that's why that's also why I wanted to watch that and dissect it Is because it definitely shows class camaraderie as well as like trauma camaraderie In the sense that these pirates have all experienced a ton of trauma like it and um Like I don't know it shows like Like how you and someone else can be the same and have never met before And so he understood what the other people are going through. Yeah, and he knew he could help so he was willing to help And that's probably that probably helped him in a way Just to like kind of grow and stuff. Yeah, and I hope they come back next season too as Nigerian princes All seven of them Like they worked their literal lives off and now Just by the grace of someone who gave them a chance Who saw them as like Like in the situation where they got onto the boat in the first place where they saw themselves as princes Or the aristocrats had to see them as princes, right? Or if we could accept them, yeah Right, and then the servants saw them as people and decided to help They did the same thing for the servants instead of seeing them as servants. They saw them as people And the prince decided to donate all the money or to invest all the money in The people a wise investment a wise investment Any final thoughts? I'm gonna watch this one out I'm an average romance right now. What are your thoughts around all of what I just said about? I think um, I don't I think um Yeah, uh, everyone matters and Shit, um What they meant what they did was like a wise choice Like Yeah, like give everybody a choice to do their own thing but in a correct way But like actually giving them the opportunity to do their own thing Right because like everyone has the chance to do their own thing However, not many people have the freedom to do that or the resources. Yeah And he basically gave them the resources to do their own thing And it doesn't matter how it is it could even bite him in the butt years down the line It doesn't matter. Yeah, he His choice was to give seven people their freedom instead of keeping the money Oh, no, I think that's beautiful I thought it was very well executed throughout and I thought it did a really good job of explaining The differences between classes, but also But also like the differences not between classes. Yeah classes and like how experiences can be similar and how like getting like You if you if you guys can just you don't have to to relate through black or anything But if just if you just relate through experience that yeah powerful too, and yeah If you understand just stepping in someone's shoes every once in a while Really really change and it's also I think it's also like perspective He knew he can make sure you're not paying for half of a pyramid if you step into someone Exactly Definitely I think we gotta go. Yes. Thank you. Thank you