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And I will tell you this, chat. I will tell you this every time I watch a Madden game cause I'm be, let's, let's, let's be honest here, chat. Let's be honest. The Madden's pretty goddamn boring. There's been a handful of games that have been really good. The rest, not that great, right? I'm being honest, not that exciting. Really not that fun, but you know what is fun is watching that be easy guy. And I'll tell you ever since be easy, that guy is who we watch. We want to see what moves he makes. Why does he walk over here this play? Why does the next play is he behind the curtain? Why does he take a step forward? Is he feeling like clipboarding? You know, and we always think what's on his clipboard, right, chat? You think what is on his clipboard, you know? And it got pointed out to me, chat. I did not notice this. And I will tell you, Skimbo might be the number one be easy clipboard guy watcher there is. Skimbo said, Debbie, he's flipping through the play call screen. He had multiple signs on his clipboard. Like if he wanted him to be quiet, he had a sign for that. If he wanted to start the game, he had a sign for that. I didn't know this was a play call screen. The be easy is a play call screen. I didn't know that, you know? And it's pretty nuts that now they have, you know, pre-wrote messages they want to give to the players, you know? So I don't know if you guys are paying attention to the be easy guy when he approaches the stage or what he does. Now, I haven't been in a lot of mess. Some of you guys have been there. I wasn't able to make it. So for me, for me personally, I don't know what the interaction is between the new clipboard bays. The new clipboard bays are a little bit more aggressive than the old clipboard bay, you know, chat. But shout out to Pavin in the chat. But that's pretty much what I've been watching. But this week was good. It was a lot to talk about. And I wanted to, I don't know what I wanted to say. I wanted to, you know, we probably got two hours of maddening here, of podcast. We want to talk about it, you know? And what the hardest thing to do is figure out what I really want to talk about. You know what I mean, chat? Because there's so many different things that are, you know, so many different games that are worth following, so many different games that are worth talking about. So many different topics to talk about, honestly. I think that's one of the things that we have to talk about is just so many different things. And you guys can help me on which games you guys thought were important. Cause I know I have my opinions and they might not be the same as yours. You know, what you guys thought was the most important or, you know, the easiest thing to talk about. For me, we're going to talk about one great user. We're going to talk about the Bucks Club series. A lot of talk about the Bucks Club series. We're going to talk about Pony and Lil' Man. We're going to talk about Drenny and Jay. I'm going to talk about Bugs, Atlanta Club series. Now, shout out to Nick Hacco. I'm glad he won. Because, you know, one thing about us, Nick Hacco is a guy that does his first time on stage. You know, and the one thing about Nick, Nick's been in these chats. He's been playing the game. He's been grinding the hell out of the game a lot, man. And I'm glad that he had finally paid off for him and he really won a whole club. Upset and Allen, who I don't think we've really seen play that much this year. So, a lot of Kiven crew is looking slim right now. You know, the Kiv crew, them boys, Crush is still up here. Obviously Henry's still there. The rest of them boys, they got zipped up. You know, lights, what's up. Jay, there he is in the chat. Jay himself. We are going to talk about Jay. Jay did something absolutely inexcusable. Actually, Jay did about 16 things inexcusable. But one, we're going to get to that was absolutely to just dumbfounded. But anyway, Keynes is there. Okay, they're just adding body. People got somebody by. Yo, can me and Skimbo, Radiance and our Madden crew, bro. He's part of our crew, all right? We got like two people, man. We got to start claiming bodies because they just claim bodies every day. People just adding people to crews and stuff. You know, we just over here playing. All we got is me. I'm washed up. Bugs is just lucky as hell. Skimbo's good and that's it. And Clef. But Clef and like five different crews and shit. Lil' man, what's up, man? You know what I'm saying? Lil' man, there he is. The Colts Club Series champion. But we're going to get to Lil' man. First, what I want to do, I'm gonna be honest with you, user man game is not entertaining chat. You know, users, I don't have any user game feel to break down. What I will tell you is this is what I want to do is I want to put users link in the chat here. I do want y'all to take the time out to follow user on Twitch. Now I will put that in the YouTube description. I will put it in the SoundCloud description because if anything I can remember from the Carolina clubs, first of all, I didn't think anybody was that impressive. User obviously was the best. Came out on top man, but he didn't run. The one thing I'll tell you about user and against the young boy. I forget who the young boy was, but he looked like he was about eight years old, right? The one thing I learned from that game is that one of the things with the, we talk about passing game and running game a lot, you know? The one thing about the running game is you don't make mistakes. You know, the worst, when you run a ball this year, honestly, outside of an enforcer, the worst thing that can happen when you run the ball is you lose one or two yards. That is the worst thing that can happen. You know what I'm saying, chat? There is no, there's no risk essentially, right? Whereas JD, that's what he says, his name JD, my bad JD, shout out to you. I'm sorry, there was a lot of people I watched play today. Congratulations on making it, making more money than I have made this year. And you do your thing, but and you ran a right playbook, your play calling was a little, little suspect, you know? But you know, that's, you'll get there. But anyway, my point is this, is that what JD is that, he passed the ball. You know, and the thing about this year with passing against user is just, user is man 20, right, chat? Am I like, that's what user, user is man 20. He gonna run the ball, play smart. He's just gonna send seven people at you every single time on defense. Every single time. And the thing is JD, first drive, he looked great. He made all the right reads. But then we go with the passing game. The downside of the passing game is what, chat? You are going to throw interceptions. And a lot of times what happens, when you throw interceptions, they're going back the other way. And that's pretty much what happened. It's hard to make the right read every time with somebody coming free and somebody sending seven people at you all day. That's why honestly, y'all think it's like a joke, it's a joke, but I really do think the skill gap would be just enormous in this game if there were no running. Now, obviously that's stupid and it's not real football, as you guys would say. But I think it's really hard to go out there and pass the ball all the time while one player is just running the ball all the time. Cause you're going to make mistakes. You know, you have to play pretty damn perfect. We saw it with Ghost on the podcast as we talked about, he played pretty perfect the whole game. Made one mistake is the reason he lost. You know, that's pretty much how it is with the game being so damn short and the run being this powerful, especially with nasty streak in the jukebox. It's just, it's tough to pass every play if you're not super elite. Man, I wasn't good enough to do it. JD wasn't good enough to do it. We'll see if, you know, who's a pass every play type of person, you know, that's still alive in his tournament. You know, we're talking about DeCroft. I guess he goes into that, that mixture. Who else was talking about obviously Skimbo. Who else would be a pass only type of player? You know, civil, I don't even think civil would be. And the one thing that I thought was smart about civil is that he had the running back. You know, he had the running back still. Like he's not stupid to what's hip in the game. So if you did play, if you did blitz him, he could hit that running back flat, get a bunch of extra yards, you know? You know, I don't think civil was a runner, but he's also not stupid. If you're gonna play a pass defense, he's gonna run the ball. That's why Skimbo's really good, but we'll get into that. Actually Henry, Henry goes in, obviously Henry goes in, but it's definitely tough to pass every play. And these guys we're talking about are like the best passers there are, you know? So, and they would succeed no matter how hard it is to pass and so on and so forth, you know? But that's just an example of what happens. My point is, what happens in that game is that, you know, when you pass the ball, you can make mistakes. That's what happened to JD, made mistakes in the game. The game, if you're a runner, the game's always gonna be winnable, man. It really is, because the game's gonna go by so fast. You're never gonna be down more than two scores, you know, and I think if you're a passer, you make mistakes, GG's. But shout out to the user. Like I said, there goes his link. Make sure you guys follow him. As you saw, like for him, just full of energy, he's funny. Between his accent and his voice and his wit is just a perfect combination. And what's crazy is that some of you guys is the first time you got to hear a user and everything and just kind of, I don't wanna say interact, but be amongst him as he plays the game. Users is like that in pretty much everything, you know? It's always busting jokes and being funny and having a good time. So if you haven't clicked this link, make sure you follow him there because it is entertaining and I will tell you, as much as a lot of people always wanna shit on Twitch, on Mad on Twitch, Mad on Twitch is booming right now. Everybody's doing really well. All the views are really high. Everything's going well. So his wit, his wit, DNC, not his wit. His wit, W-I-T vocabulary. It's one of the reasons I'm successful in this talking thing, is vocabulary. If you don't understand that, you know, maybe you need to take another, head to another stream, you know what I'm saying? By the way, that was user, I said, not really to break down. I'm glad he won. He's been playing man a long time. Like when you say old heads, these dudes are old heads. You know what I'm saying? And that's what user is. So now let's get into the Bucks club series. Cause the Bucks, do we wanna say it's the best? It was the best like as a whole. Cause obviously Bucks got lucky as shit and we'll talk about that later. The Bucks gave us two good games. How about that? Is there any club series? I'm trying to think of a full club series that gave us two good games. Falcons wasn't the best. Falcons was just, watching the Falcons, don't give me Falcons. The Dolphins, I mean the Dolphins, the Dolphins club series was Laugh at Madster. Yeah, they gave us two good games though. Yeah, Bucks played great, but I mean that guy really didn't know what he was doing. Yeah, I guess Dolphins gave us two good games. Yeah, the Dolphins sold blocky bad. But anyway, let's go to these games. Now, the Bucks for me won, I will tell you this. Dukehead, let's watch this game a little bit. Cause I'll show you guys, cause this game obviously is, I will tell you I watch all these games. Yeah, listen, I watch all these games. And there's like three people I really root for. Obviously, Skimbo, Buzz and Clef. Like those three, like I legitimately root for. Like almost like I'm playing the game, right? Now, so a lot of things go into that. And Clef, obviously, we've seen the pitch a million times. Now, as we talk about the pitch chat, now tell me just about the pitch. Now one, we can agree he never misses that pitch, right? Never misses the pitch. Okay, this is another question for me. Have you guys ever seen somebody pitch the ball and get a positive play out of it? I'm not talking about, obviously we don't expect it to be a turnover, right? Never expect that to be a turnover. But at the same time, have you ever seen it work out more than get into the 30 yard line? So ultimately what I say by saying this is that it's just not worth it. Okay, so we got one kick return last year. All right, what's about last year? You know, that's what I'm saying. Last year, so last year it happened one time. I just, but nevertheless, as we zoom in on the, now Clef ain't, he ain't slick. You see, he let all this shit grow. Clef, first of all, Clef gotta be super mixed cause he got like white people hair. He really could get a comb over. If we're being honest, Clef could get the comb over, right? Like he could and he's not slick. Cause you know, he let this grow so it could come out a little bit right here. So he could cover up this wild ass, his wild ass lean back. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. But he grew this, like his hair probably like, you know, that's probably an inch long hair. Like it's crazy, you know? So when you, in all honesty, his hairline look like it's here but it's really like back, you know what I'm saying? It's like back, it's holding on. It's holding on. It's Clef hanging right now. You know what I'm saying? But he ain't slick cause he, you know, he let it grow out cause this is what white people do. Now he actually has the white people hair, you know, where, you know, he can, he can let it grow out and cover up a little more grounds. I'm saying, but as we are on the topic of hair, my man Duke, his shit is moving. Like his shit is moving. Like, I don't know where he got his hair or how he got his hair, but man, his shit look good. His shit look good. And one thing, honestly, you know, a lot of people we talk about, now first of all, I will tell you after Clef loses this game, let me tell you, I'll talk about that. Now Clef loses this game pretty much on this pass right here. Now everybody knows this guy will come back, right? Now, so this is, honestly, I think it's just a little bit early so Dante Hall never really started coming back to the quarterback. And this is one thing I hate is that Dante Hall is just too short. And you see what happens here is that Clef, when you throw this pass, Clef realizes it's gonna be an aggressive catch situation. He gotta hold on and he gets lost. And your wide receiver is five, eight. When you get to this situation, you just try to like box him out. You know what I mean? Like you try to box him out in aggressive catch because you know it's not gonna be open like you want it to be. So he tries to click on, take a step forward with Hall and try to box out like rebound. But Dante Hall is just too goddamn short and too damn small, you know what I'm saying? And he gets the pick and he loses the game. Now I was upset, you know what I'm saying? Because Duke is the type, you know what I'm saying? He's the type, he always wanna get, you know, he always wanna tell people that he's good. And I thought, you know, a little bit, well, he discredited Clef a little bit. And Clef is my guy, you know what I'm saying? I'll tell you that right now. Clef is my guy, right? So I feel, and Clef isn't the big, he not that good at shit talking. I mean, it's like skim on books. And I always feel some type of, like this is my job. Like I don't like people coming from my people. You know what I mean? So I was like, at the time, after he loses the game to Civil, I aired him out and said, yeah, you've been good, Blah, Zay Blah, but you always laid down. And I felt like I went a little bit too far. You know what I'm saying? And I felt bad because Duke got hurt and then he wanted to fight me. And I felt like I went a little bit too far. I didn't need to Clef you right. You can cap, but at the same time, that's not your job at the time. You upset, you lost, you know what I'm saying? Like once you lose, you know what I mean? Clef, you don't want to cap. And I feel like it's my job. Like I'm not gonna let my man go out like that. And one, I took what Duke said a little bit too hard. He ain't really saying nothing too crazy. He just said Clef only been good for two years. And it really wasn't much of a shock. It really wasn't that big of a deal, but I didn't like it. That's all I'm saying. I didn't like it. That's all I'm saying. I didn't like he said Clef was only good for two years. I don't care if Clef was only good for two months. You ain't just gonna say that. And I took it too personal and it wasn't that malicious at the time. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't that Duke didn't mean it that bad. It wasn't nothing crazy, but I aired out Duke. And then he got mad at me and he wanted to fight. Which understood, cause he just lost. So he's pissed. So I wasn't upset that he wanted to fight. I don't want to fight none of y'all. All this and part of, and once he said he wanted to fight, it goes back to that. No matter what I say to you guys, it's all a joke. And I'm sorry if I really ever offend any of you guys cause I'm gonna bust all your balls. Like Boogs is gonna get, he's gonna get roasted ungodly today. It's gonna happen. And Boogs is probably one of my best friends in Madden. Boogs. But I'm gonna roast the hell out of him. Cause that's what I do. And I don't ever want you guys to be offended to the point where y'all want to fight or y'all really upset. So when that happened, I kind of deaded it. I kind of stopped it. Cause I don't really want it to get that far. You know what I'm saying? I really don't want it to get that far. I don't want to be airing people out to the point where they get upset like that. You know, that's not what I want. And you know, that's not what I want this to become. And I don't want this to be. I don't want people to get really upset about it. That's all. So for me, no, it's not, for me it's not, I never wanted to get like that. So once that happened, me and Duke talked about it. And the main thing was, man, the one thing about Duke that always, always made, I don't like, I don't like, it goes back to this. When you have to tell people how good you are, you're really not that good. You know, when you have to tell people how much you can fight, you really can't fight. Or you know what I'm saying? Or it's just like, you know, if you're really that good, the one thing about Madden, man, that after playing this 2K shit for a month, the one thing about Madden, everything gets proven on the football field, everything. So if you're the best in the world, go ahead. It's easy. Just play the leaderboards, play in the tournament, there you go. You don't have to worry about no politics, no nothing. It all gets solved on the gridiron, all of it. So that's one of the blessings we have in Madden. So there's no need to always tell people how good you are. And that's one thing I, you know, always like, yo, just prove it. That's all, you know? And Duke gets upset about like these, these votes, these, you know, the Twitter polls. The Twitter poll, as Donnie Moore put out Twitter polls today, who's the favorite in each conference, right? And what it was, was who the hell do you know? Cause Donnie Moore has maybe 20,000 followers. That's pretty much who have you heard of, you know? Like you're not, Duke's not gonna win that battle versus Clef. Clef is more popular cause he streams, he's been to more events, he's met more people, he's just more popular. That's all these little Twitter polls and shit like that are, is who is more popular? They don't know who the hell's good. They didn't know who the hell several, several was before this tournament. He looked like the best player in the whole joint. You know what I'm saying? But for me, honestly, the biggest thing was that, I don't want anybody to be upset to the point where they want to fight me or anything like that because like I said, it's all jokes. I'm, I'm all just busting y'all balls because, and it happened today, man. It happened today. It happens every day. I'd be feeling bad about how I treat some of y'all. I'd be feeling bad how I'd be dragging some man players, but then every chance you little bastards get to drag me through the mud, y'all do not stop. It happens. I'm through the mud every day. I get drug. So yes, this is my platform. We dragging people right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, trash talk always happened, but sometimes it's, honestly, I learned a lot in the last year that, you know, that is really not, it's a little bit of, I really just want to make sure everything cool. That's all. I don't want anybody to want to fight or anything like that. Like I said, me and Duke talked, and anything anyway, back to the haircut, because Duke shit, I mean, I don't know what he did. I don't know what LeBron situation went down. I really don't know, but I will be honest with you guys. This shit looks good. I will be honest. It looks good. And that's, I mean, at the end of the day, if a man want hair and he can do what he gotta do to get hair, God bless it, cause he looks good. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, whatever, whatever vitamins, whatever the hell went on. The shit looks good. It doesn't look like a wig. No, I'm not saying nothing bad. The shit, he looks good. Duke looks good. Can we agree on that chat? No, no, this is not bad. Looks clean. Won't even front, man. So yeah. And one thing we always laugh at people, man, cause y'all don't understand. We're gonna laugh at Clef when he get the baldy cause his shit was looking crazy. Like we're gonna laugh at that. You know what I'm saying? But for me, if a man wants hair, let him just go get hair. Ain't no way there's no two pay. Like, bro, he might've went ear lacquer. The shit looks good. Can we stop frontin'? I'm just sayin', as a man that's been through the hair struggles, man, sometimes I understand. You just want hair, go get hair. There's opportunity, man, it's 2020. Clef, it is 2020. Yo, after Duke put the paws on you, you know what I'm saying? Y'all go ahead and see what's up. Go see what he got, Clef, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I might be back. I might be back. I might be back, man. I might be back. Oh, we got pony versus little man. But honestly, I do want to talk about civil. Honestly, civil looks really good. The one thing, Ace Twins, I've always thought Ace Twins, this was a formation I ran. I want to say man, like 15. The first year I started playin' mutt, right? 8,000, that's not bad. Listen, it came out okay? Or listen, I might, listen, y'all might show, listen. If Drenny keep doin' good, I swear I'm shavin' my face and payin' to 8,000 and comin' out here with full head of hair. But anyway, as we see the civil diva, Ace Twins, I said, I think I ran in man, 16. Whatever year mutt was first there. The one thing that civil used more than anybody was this passly. Now we saw Ken do this. The one thing that Ken did not have that civil has, civil has the TNC, the little amador hitcha out round streak, that type of nerd ass quick passes. And I think the type of nerd ass quick passes. You know what I'm sayin'? No, we're not gonna listen to any, we already listened to the civil playlist on the intro, man. I would play it for the YouTube, but I would get copyright written. Good pocket step right there. We see the pass lead on the hitch, so instead of gettin' one yard, like we always get on hitches, he goes heads and gets, you know, three or four yards every time he throws a little smoke screen or somethin'. Which is really effective, man. And one thing about this year that we talked about, that we realized that makes it really tough to pass is that we see civil with the jukebox running back. You know, that makes the offense that much better. But the one thing we realized that made, that makes it hard to pass is that deep blues, clouds, like one they can tackle, and two on top of that, on top of that is that they react so fast, the deep blues, whatever that, one they tackle. You can't break tackles without an ability. And two, they run down there and they make the tackle. So when you throw a flat pass or you throw one of those smoke screens or you throw a hitch, you're really never gonna get a lot of yards. So it makes not going downfield really tough to do and you have to consistently dot from in the pocket. And you don't get many yards underneath passes. As we say again, a pass lead. And I guess these possession catchers have to dive, catch it. And you see, you got four yards on it, which isn't best. But if you didn't have a pass lead, he's gettin' one yard on that because Paula Miles is gonna bring him down, tackle him. So because of the pass lead, it allows him to, whereas most of us would get one yard, he's getting four or five. So, and honestly, the one thing about a defensive player, I wouldn't give a shit about a route like that. Because, I mean, at the end of the day, they're not killing you with routes like that on this little jukebox, might kill you. But I'm saying, and one of the biggest dots of this game, I don't know if it was here, was it here? How'd he get an end zone? Was that third down dot? Yeah, there it is. Let's see. This one right here, this was a laser. Now, as a TNC, one thing about this, this was pretty much the play of the game, man. This was the sequence of the game. For me, because 1, 3, 4, Civil actually got bluffed twice. He got super bluffed as he thinks he's blitzing everybody. Bang, Duke drops back into coverage. GG, he's not a single soul is open. And Civil got, actually a great lurk by Duke. He kinda just baited him with everything. Don't have a mobile callback, so Civil got baited. You know, he got baited with the play call screen and then he come out here again. Fast forward, same thing. Now, right here, I think he's not, I don't think he's blitzing. Maybe when he does that, now Civil changes his whole play up. Now, you guys see that, look. He comes out of the huddle, his linebackers aren't pinched. So, Civil's sending out five, which I would do too. Then Duke remembers that we pinched my linebacker. So now, Civil says, oh, he might blitz me. So, now he goes back to a max protect, max protect a little something, goes with a comeback route and a streak. Now, for me, I think he's just trying to, he's just trying to seam him up right here. I don't know when he could ever throw the comeback route. Duke's all over it. Once again, bluffs him again. He's in full out coverage. Civil has to throw the ball away. Now, if you're Duke, I mean, maybe you go ahead and blitz now because he hasn't blitzed yet. Now, the one thing about Cover 3, and Civil knows this, everybody in the world knows this, as he sets up all these things in the world, is I've been playing tight the whole year, right? Tight, it seems are probably the best thing you can throw to score down here. This is your Cover 3 safety, right? Now, although he's over top of this tight end right here, he has to go to his responsibility, which is in the middle field, probably around the A in Buccaneers, right? Civil knows that. Now, I didn't think he could pass lead this ridiculously on this seam. As you see, look, he doesn't take a step that he's going back to the A and he's able to squeeze this pass with the pass lead and put that thing right in there. Boom, possession catch to Wilson. Luke Wilson the tight end, is that who this is? I guess it is. And I thought that that was the play of the game. That was the play that's like, damn, Duke think he's going to be in a tie game. He's going to have the chance to milk it all out. And he doesn't because he scored that touchdown. It's so much easier playing a runner, like it's so much easier playing a runner when they, what's your name, call it? When they don't, when you're up four as opposed to when you're up three. You know what I'm saying? When you're up four, now this right here was, oh my God. You know, it's to the point where, I guess this is three, four bear. Sometimes when passers go ahead and got a pass. But when you're up four, it's so much easier to play against a runner. And we see Duke go with the three, the two streaks. I mean, we couldn't do two out routes, two in routes, two curl, two curls would have been better for me. You know, but for me, this is like, like this is what I'm thinking is that what look, like I said, we all play Madden. We all play defense. Cause what I would do here, honestly, fourth and eight against a guy that can't pass, I would do the, I would do the rush seven. I would probably have this dude in a quarter, this dude probably manned up, shade upside, or this dude in a quarter. I'm on him and this dude in a flat. I might be quarter flat. Fill me, chat. If I'm not manned up, I'm quarter flat, manned up here and I'm, I'm lurking. You know, a corner routes not gonna beat me too much pressure unless he gets enough time. So if I'm on offense, I would probably put some type of post or some type of out route or in route or curl. Honestly for me, a curl is not a bad pick right here because he's, I don't know. I don't know. But I feel like what, what defense would you, like the only thing, like you would, to put two streaks, you would just be expecting like a yellow zone and a cloud and just a yellow zone over here. You would expect all out, just underneath zones, which would be stupid for civil to do because it's three minutes left. He's still up four. You don't risk giving up a touchdown. You know, you can put all the blues risk giving up the first down on a curl, but you don't, you never risk giving up a touchdown in this situation on defense ever. I think, I don't know about you guys. Would you risk? No, if he's in a middle, and this guy's in a cloud, I feel he could hit a streak. Oh, like at the 30 yard line. If he doesn't lurk it, like if he goes lurks here, I feel like he could pass lead to the right and get it over here. I think if that dude's in the middle, if he's in the cloud, if he's in the deep blue, it's GGs or he manned up as GGs. But it's just, it's just a wrong, it's just a guess. You know, it's just, it's just like, it's just a dog shit play, dude. Like golly. You know, two curls, yeah, two curls are in route, but curls really won't get you the first down. Now this is where civil knows, man. Honestly, for me, I'm a pussy. I probably would play safe here. Just get my, now this is probably the dot of the, not the dot, the last dot was the one I showed you, but this one was a Stanley steam or two. I mean, just a great pass lead, got his feet in bounds. In hindsight, if he did throw that in route, he was probably, he could have snapped through that in route, but he threw over his head, man. He knew Duke would eventually, and you know, Duke got put in a spot where, I mean, he just picked up this blitz so easy. Let's go back to it. Duke got put in a spot where he has to guard both people, you know, just clouds in the deep blue manned up, you know, and he just a perfect play call for that. He really honestly, civil, he gets credit for this because he didn't run anything like this all day. Like this was the first time he ran any type of setup deep down the field. That might be the, honestly chat seriously, do we see him pass any time where it was deep down the field? So he set that up to where it's like, dang, I've been throwing hitches, I've been throwing smoke screens, I've been throwing running back wheels, I've been throwing, you know what I'm saying? I've been throwing a bunch of different things and now I'm gonna set up a deep play. That was the first time I think he's really passed deep down the field all day. And this is where I would run every single down. He almost tried to pass or wanted to pass, but I think he runs every down. Yeah, because dude, did he pass once? No, he had two minute warning, ran every down. Now, would any of you guys post would pass anytime down there? Cause you're thinking this guy has no quarterback. Well, he has a slow quarterback. He's gonna come out here and start running, you know, he's a runner. And this is why, man, I'll tell you, I don't think there's gonna be anybody in the final 32 without a quarterback. I feel like you always need a quarterback. Always, it doesn't matter what offense you have. It doesn't matter how much cap you have on your running back, how much cap you have on a lead blocker, how much cap you have on impact, whatever, nasty streak, whatever the hell it is. You always need a quarterback. Cause if you get into these situations and you can't, you know, throw plays and get out of bounds. You know, as we see another stretch right here, tackle them bounds and that's pretty much GG's. I think dude gets this though. I don't know, Akeman doesn't even have hot rod master. He almost didn't get that. As Tyree Kill comes up with a big play form, but the clock's running and you know, this guy's still running the ball. Like it's just, you see, this is the only thing that makes it hard to be a runner is you can't score when you're down. You can't make a drive down the field and that's the end of the game. It just makes it so hard to be a runner. I honestly don't think you could, no one will, I just think it's foolish to not have a running back, honestly, or a quarterback because there's situations where if you need to get a dull pass to get out of bounds, you need to get some big chunk plays and it's just stupid not to have a quarterback. Honestly, I don't know who Duke had a wide receiver. And I don't know if you guys are even gonna have wide receivers, but I think it like, even with this guy like Clinton Portis or you have a guy, not Clinton Portis, but say you have Clinton Portis, say you have Pollard, say he isn't back on running backs, or you're getting a situation where it's a minute left, you don't have any time else, they'll put that running back at wide receiver, dude. Like he's still fast as hell. He has the jukebox, hit him on, put him on a drag, put him on a streak. For real, so put him on a curl. You know, them guys have some types of receiver stats, they're not, I would say Clinton Portis at wide receiver would be better than gold John Ross, honestly. So for me, I'd like to see somebody be able to do that, you know, not be that bad and that restricted in your playbook that you're running stretch with 40 seconds and no, although we've seen it work though. So it's hard to really kill people that do that cause we definitely have seen it work. So shout out to civil. I know y'all been telling me about this civil kid. Yeah, and I've been listening. I hear what you guys say. You guys have been, shout out to journey for the host. I've been seeing what you guys say. You know what I'm saying? I've been seeing what you guys say. And y'all been telling me civil's good. I don't think, I think civil's on PS4. Shout out to journey. Are we on all start team up tonight? That's the real question journey. But that being said, like I said, I think everybody should have a quarterback. You shouldn't not have a quarterback. You have some weapons on offense. Never want to be in a situation where your offense is, you know, kind of, you know, restricted just to running the ball. But what I'm saying, yeah, so congratulations to civil. I know he been playing that a long time. Obviously it's really good passing the ball. We're going to see how well that ace twins holds up against a lot of pressure. Without a mobile quarterback, I do think it's really tough to pass. I really do, you know, I really think that's what's going to be the end for these guys. It's just pressure is going to, I think we're in an escape. This is how the game is. With escape artists, I think pressure, you want to see people blitzing you. I think escape artists is meant for the blitz, you know? And if these guys can keep passing and taking those hitches and taking that running back wheel route and taking a little check downs, little dump downs the whole game, then God bless them, man. Cause if we say all the time, that's what makes a good passer, the one that's able to go ahead and make those passes and just take them all game, honestly. You know, shout out to Life Thief with the two month streak. I appreciate you guys. Now let's talk about Pony Montana. Now naturally, when a streamer is in the tournament, we're room for the streamer. Because the one thing that I equated to, as I was watching Pony play, was like, you kind of know this person. Like this is like one of your boys, even though if you never met this person, even maybe never talked to this person. When you watch a streamer, essentially, man, that guy is, you kind of know that person. You know what I'm saying, Chet? Like you get it. Like you understand, like you have a relationship with that person. You know what they like. You know what they talk. You know how their moods are, how they play, like everything about them. You know what I'm saying? So for me, it's always good when a streamer plays. So obviously you're kind of rooting for Pony. But I'll be honest, I'm a little man fan. I was kind of rooting for the little man. It's my guy. You know, I'm a fan of his. I'm a fan of his theatrics and how he always talks shit. He a little goofy. He a little lost. He got more than a couple of screws loose in the brain. I'll be honest with you. Little man has a couple, his screws are, they're like, they're loose. Be honest, Duke, his screws are loose. But I will tell you this, and it is undefeated. Chet, when you dance, you lose. When you dance, you lose. When you dance. Nope. When you dance, you lose. When you dance, you lose, Chet. You lose. Especially if you're dancing to a blake. When you're dancing to a blue face song. Come on, man. Nah, B. Nah, you can't do a dance like that as we see Pony in overtime. Now this was a great game. I'll be honest. This, Chet, we had not talked about this game. We're talking about it now. This is borderline, one of the better games so far. Yeah, Lil' Man was not comfortable. And I talked to Lil' Man this weekend at the Nerd Street Gamer's $1,000 Man Tournament this weekend that we had, and we talked about this game. He said, I didn't know what to do. He was like, Debbie, I didn't know what to do. He's like, he messed it up. He said, he messed it up. He messed it up. He messed it up. I was like, yo. You know what I'm saying? So that's how he was this weekend. That's what he was saying. And he said, and I said, bro, you really was gonna run Cover 3 Cloud every play, huh? He was like, yeah, I just, you know, I just, look at him. Like, look, this is the face of a man that does not know what to do. Like, literally, is this not the blink? Is this not the look of a man, or a hair? We already Chet? What, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Like this side, look, he don't know what to do. He ain't talking. When little man ain't talking, he losing. I'll tell you that right now, Chet. So, you know, Pony can end the game with a, with a touchdown. He was passing so well out of this, I don't know why he ever ran. I'm saying, I don't know why he ever ran the ball out of this set, honestly. You know, and that was two streaks. Ooh, he got baited that time. Now I don't know why he called that call. I don't, I'm in Jesus. He tried it. Dante Hall sucks. I'll tell you that. Dante Hall sucks. Now he went to this play here to, now little man hasn't blitzed in five quarters. Ah, we go to the opposite here, Chet. Remember we talked about Sybil and where his, where his streak was, right? Where his streak was. Now, you have to know which, when you're playing against Cover 3 and you're seaming it up, Chet. Now you know I'm kidding. You have to know which one of these safeties has the middle responsibility, right? Now on this Cover 3 Cloud, which a little man has ran every single play since like the first quarter, right? This guy is going to be, actually I don't know, obviously you can flip it, but this guy is going to be the middle safety. Now if this guy was the middle safety, we could see him up right here. Kind of like Sybil did. Now he's a little bit further away, so it's going to be a tougher throw and obviously he doesn't have that passly thing that Sybil had, but you could see him somebody up. Now what happens here is that this guy is the middle one. One reason why Cover 3 is good is because it has a Cover 3, but it's on a safety, it's not on an outside guy. You know what I'm saying, Chet? Whereas if this was Cover 3 and this guy was the third, you could probably still see him on that side. You see his streak runs right down the middle. None of these are even close to open and Pony needs to throw the ball away. So he wasted a play running the ball. He wasted a play with that call. Now he has a play, now he got to score a touchdown and what does Pony go to? Looks like every runner's favorite pass. Once again, Cover 3 Cloud boys. I hated that play too. Why did I hate this play? Cause you got everybody going to the side. Most of the time when people are in the running back wheel, they'll have a post going back over the middle so you can't do that. Now this is decision time, Chet. Now you guys chat with me. You guys talk with me. Fourth and one, what do you do? Do you kick? Do you go for it? What do you do? Now Pony decides to kick. I'm a man, I'll tell you this, man. If I'm busting down, if I'm busting down at Tatiana's, if you're busting down Tatiana's, I don't know if you can kick that. You know what I'm saying? You can't do busting down Tatiana's and then kick off. And I'll tell you what you can't do. You don't gotta get a stop if you get a touchdown. Okay Mac, you win the game. Now obviously no little man runs his kick back, but I want you guys to watch Pony's user on this play. Cause let's come home real quick. Real quick. Now honestly I would kick too, but since it didn't work out for him, it's easy to talk about. Let's move on. We've all played mad. When you kick the ball off, right? And it doesn't go to the up back. It goes to Tyree kill. What goes through your mind, Chet, when that happens? Does it not turn into a oh shit situation? Cause it goes through my mind. It's oh shit, right? Oh shit. Like you gotta play a little bit harder when the ball goes to Tyree kill, right Chet? You have to lock in a little bit more. It's a oh shit situation, right? I don't like oh shit situations. You don't like oh shit situations. Pony doesn't like oh shit situations, right? When the ball goes to Tyree kill, right? It's a oh shit situation. So you have to be on your A plus game. You have to then not be, you know what I'm saying? I'm just chill. You know, it's not the same kickoff. You gotta bring your A plus game for the next three seconds, right Chet? As long as y'all are with me, I'll continue. I wanna make sure y'all are with me, right? I just wanna make sure y'all with me. Just y'all, you gotta bring the A plus game. Cause we gonna watch it what Pony does when it's A plus time. That's all I want y'all to do. We just gonna watch Pony's user. He went for the double strip. The double strip. Now, I would be honest, one of the problems with the game, this man does have secure tackler. And bro, maybe it's cause he went for the strip, right? But bro, I feel like you gotta be, this gotta be a scary tackle. I feel like he didn't bring, he didn't bring this scary mindset here, right Chet? That's what I'm saying. I feel like for me, I'm running. I'm like, oh no, I can't get blocked. I can't get blocked by him. I'm looping around him, which he does. You know what I'm saying? The strip, going for the strip kind of killed him. But honestly, it wasn't even that strip. Cause to be honest with you, I don't know how. Damn, I gotta just play it, fuck. I can't hit back on this thing. I don't know how he didn't get that first strip, really, it's really the second one. Why are we doing the second strip, Chet? Cause he didn't get that one. But you know what I'm saying? He could be in this play right now, right Chet? He could be in this play. He could be in this play. Well, he said, nah, I'ma go over here and strip this dude over here. He's swimming again, he under water again. So we went for the double strip. Look, look, look, he's back under water. GG's, and number five fought. Yeah, I think you gotta click on to this guy and run him away too. Yeah, if you take this guy and like, if this guy right here, you just click on and move him back, run away, let people catch up. The biggest thing in these situations, the biggest thing in these situations is you have to let people catch up. Cause if he runs straight, nobody's gonna catch him. But if you make him slow down, change direction, you know, your app keys or your power models can come help you. And yeah, pony, like I said, obviously every kick return is lucky. Every single one's lucky. So you can't really get that mad. The user could have been better. Wasn't brutal, but it could have been better. That's all. You know what I'm saying, chat, that's all. Warped strip specialist. So definitely was a really entertaining game. Always root for the streamers when they get there. Good to see pony on the big stage. Probably learned a lot, man, I learned a lot. That was probably the best I've ever seen Jumbo. Honestly, it was a pretty shitty defensive job as well. Shot the Henry in the chat. Yeah, a kick return is always bad ending. Was exciting, but always bad ending. You know, and the chat probably loves the exciting part. You know what I mean? I don't really love the exciting part that much chat. You guys let me know what you thought. Did you guys like that game? Where that game ranked so far? Honestly, I think Duke and Clef game was really good. I think Duke and Sybil had a good game. I think both of those games were good. I obviously D-Crawl from Fancy was good. Wesley and Jay Mills was good. Let's see, what would've? I don't think any of the Dolphins games were that good. Even Blocky and Master wasn't that good. What's some of the good games that we saw? Books versus the dude, I guess was good, you know. Yeah, the field goal block ending for six. I mean, I didn't think that guy was that good, D-Crawl. But we'll get to that. So shout out to Lil' Man for winning the club. I believe it's Lil' Man first club. We sparked, they sparked a discussion about Lil' Man, Top 10 Madden player ever. I don't think it's a chance, Lil' Man is Top 10. I don't know. I don't really know. You know, it's not my place. The thing with Top 10, you know, people know more about, like, before Man O'Aid than I do. You know what I'm saying? For me, before Man O'Aid, I really don't know. That's my phone is ringing. I really don't know. I really don't know before Man O'Aid that well. Honestly, you know, so I really can't talk about all these other people. You know, so I really, and I think once you get, once you get past the Top 5 or something, that's kind of opinionated. So I don't know. Yes, Skimbo, it's on the list. This is the next topic on the list. It's something I will definitely talk about. You know what I'm saying? We'll talk about, but I just want to talk about Lil' Man. I think being Top 10 and pretty much, I think the only list that matters is who's made the most money in the history of Madden. You know, it's still a problem, probably for sure. I think the problem is probably, you know, Top, as one is, I think it's over a half million dollars from the problem, man. You know, where would I rank myself in the Top Madden players ever? I'm not really that rankable. Probably 30 or something. I don't know. I really had two years of competing that were good. You know, that's all. I really didn't compete that much back in the day because honestly between, I didn't want to spend no money. I didn't want to spend no money to travel. It wasn't like it is for me now. Back then I played Man, I loved it. Online, I played a lot. It wasn't online shit 10 years ago that there are now. Before VG, I don't think there was anything online. Everything was like, go drive. I wouldn't drive to Harrisburg, which is like two hours away. I wouldn't go spend $200 to go to a Man tournament, you know? So for me, you can ask Vilma, like, Vilma, no, we was always tough and he would want to go play in them. So I'm like, no, I ain't spending my $200, you know? So for me, if I played there and actually wanted to play in them tournaments and really wanted to grind Madden back then that much, I probably would have did a lot more, but I really didn't know about it to the point where I wanted to play. It wasn't, we weren't maddened back then. Like, it wasn't my life like it is now. It was just something I was good at, honestly. Something I played with my friends, honestly. Yeah, I didn't travel. I was chilling. If it was a Man challenge, I went to the one in Philly. That's all I did. Got popped in the second round in 08. I played somebody good. Oh, now I got popped in the first round. So like, top man at Majone's, I ain't shit. But for real, yeah. Well, now that tournament, the one I lost to Chuck Hollywood was actually like the final 16 of Players Bowl. It was actually, that was actually a good tournament that I won. That was when I was good at Man 08. I should have never lost that, man. Now for real, I just, people have been grinding Madden longer than me. I really didn't start grinding like competitive Madden until it was you were able to do it at home. I think that opened up the door for anybody. Let me just grind this shit at home. That's when it was like, all right. And man, 16, 17, 18, I still think I'm a hell of a game. Even now, when I don't grind about all that, you know what I'm saying? You know? And honestly, if you don't make no money being top, I want to be top 10. Whippy fucking dude, there's no Hall of Fame. One day, I'm gonna make a Hall of Fame. I'm gonna send people trophies. We're gonna send them little footballs or controllers or some shit. That's one thing I want to do one day when I get older and not play Madden as much like, you know, make the Hall of Fame, make the all-time list and shit like that for real, for real. But at the end of the day, the MCR is only one, all you got to do is look at the money list, then that's the only list you really got to short out, honestly. But let me talk about Disney. Let's talk about the Jazz Club series. Cause this is another game I got brought up. Where are we at here? Where I got to do game up. All right, this is the only other game I wanted to watch on YouTube. This is Jay versus Kobe. Now, let's be honest, as we start this, this was probably the most, this was probably the most anticipated game of the, you know, of the club series. At least of this, at least of this round, this was the most anticipated game. Am I right? When we say that, Chad, you got to agree with me. This was the most anticipated game. Now, I will tell you, as Chicago came in here and said, Drenny has the best run plays ever. Now, Jay, I don't know what planet we're on right now. Like what, like what? I don't know how much man you all played, but for my entire existence of life, I am trying to click on this player as much as possible. Now, I know Jay plays a lot of squads where like there's another person that could be on this person, you know? But for my life, I am going to either click onto this person or die getting clicked on a detackle, right? Now, this is really, honestly, now this is the difference in the game. This is when we talk about Drenny, who we just talked about top 10 player ever and fucking Jay. This is literally the, and I don't know what happens on his drive, I forget. But this is literally the difference. Drenny clicks, you don't make this, my old ass is making this click on right here. I'll be honest, I'm clicking on that person to not even try. Now, Drenny, I blame it. Why is this guy not playmakered up? I believe he playmakered him earlier and he couldn't playmaker him up anymore. So this is when the Drenny activates. See, he's playmakered, so he can't move. And you know, this is where Drenny, Drenny's fucking Disney luck activates right here. All right, I guess he sent them. And look, and then he just, oh, I'll run for you, Drenny. I'll run for you, buddy. Don't worry, the Disney DNA, just I'll run for you. He could've stayed right there, but he'll run for him. And I mean, so Jay stayed on Apke this long. He stayed on him this long to not make this tackle. Bro, he was committed on staying on Apke. Henry, I agree 1 million percent. We will talk about that as we go. So that's just a play that if I was, if I was, if I was Jay, I would've clicked on that dude. And that's gonna be the difference of the game is that Drenny made an exceptional play and Jay wasn't making those type of plays, you know? Now, Chakobi made it seem like Drenny just had the greatest run game since the Lombardi Packers. Drenny said, Chakobi came out here and said, Drenny had the Lombardi Packers run scheme. All right, Ken, if he clicks on, does that guy, like, bro, you can't, yeah, but you're gonna make, at least make Drenny throw the ball all the way across the field. He has Phillip Rivers, he can't move in the pocket. Why would you even send a spy against Phillip Rivers? Well, yeah, Chakobi made it seem like, yeah, that ass. He really had the Lombardi Packers run game. And to me, it looked like some, the same shitty Oakland stuff I've been seeing all day. Now he tried to glitch him. He didn't glitch him. He's just trying to glitch him. Maybe he did glitch him. Yep, he glitched him. Well, not really. Once again, Jay, quality user right here from Jay himself, runs into the line, gets blocked. So Jay had a pretty bad first drive, I'll be honest. Yeah, but bad first drive, but he recovers. Now it'll be real. As you guys know, you know, for me, I was excited to see what Jay was bringing out, Chad. Were we not excited? What is Jay's offense, right? What was Jay's offense? What was he gonna bring out? How many nasty streaks? How many cheat and ass plays can he run? Was that not what we were thinking as a man in community? What the hell can Jay run? Now the first play, he goes through this wildcat and I'm like, all right, this shit sucks. Now I'll tell you, the moods of being a fan of Jay, it was a roller coaster. At one point, I thought he was the best player ever. At other points, I thought he was awful. I'll tell you what, it was a roller coaster. As we see, you know, just the DDA, Drenny DDA of Shazir just hit stickin' the hell out of somebody. Surprised we didn't get a fumble right there. As we see, Jay is gonna cook up a dot and I'm saying damn, we see Joe Thomas on a flat route. We liked it, kick it out to Joe Thomas. Let's see if he can make a play. But he kicked it out to Pollard, got some love from Joe Thomas and we're going early. Now I will tell you what, Jay loved this little squiggly route. Now I know a lot of passers, I have a lot of friends that are passers. We have never, none of my friends have ever came to me and said, yo, you gotta check out this squiggly route, it's tough, never in no formation. But I sat down and said, this squiggly route might be tough, I had to see. I had to see, chat, the squiggly route might be tough. I didn't know. But like I said, I know some passers, they have never came and said the squiggly route is tough. And I will tell you, this squiggly route was on the field a lot. We saw a lot of this squiggly, we saw it. It was squigglies all over the field. Right? Squigglies. So for me, I wanted to see if it was tough. Nice dot. Now I want to just give you guys, just give you, I want you guys to just feel how he made this read. He made this read like a pro. Big dot, solid open, took it, didn't think twice. And I want to get back to that, chat. I want to get back to the solid, didn't think about it, took it, I want to get back to that. The squiggly. Drain saw the squiggly as we see Lamar Jackson. And I will tell you, I felt like J's Lamar Jackson was a little slow. Felt like he could have had some more touchdowns. Now I'll be honest. The J versus Drenny was the ultimate Disney versus anti-Disney. And I'm saying that's what it looks like. You know what I'm saying? Drenny looks like Disney. He's got a star in his chest, you know. J looks like, you know, we just found him on the street and said, let's go. He looks like, you know, like a paid actor. They want to just throw him in there. The city plays mad. So I was rooting for J. I want to see it get done. I got to see it get done. And here we go, chat. This marked an historical time in this game. Where are we at? Second quarter, the second play of the second quarter. Here we go, chat. Or one in a second, whatever. Four minutes left in the second quarter. We see Joe Thomas doing what Joe Thomas does. And I want you guys to pay attention to Drenny after this play. Pay attention to Drenny's body language. Pay attention to him seeing Joe and running from Joe. Look at Drenny's body language. He didn't like that play. He didn't like it. He didn't like it one bit. He didn't laugh for that. Look, look at that body language. Sometimes you have to see, cause J's, look, and J's grooving. Now, but as we continue this, I want to know what you guys think is in J's playlist right now. Does he have Buzz down Tatiana on? Does he have Buzz down Tatiana on that playlist? Let me know. What does he have? Now I'm feeling good. I feel like the J himself dream is alive right now, chat. Look at this. Look at this just absolute glide cheating and stealing for a touchdown and the stick work. Just beautiful. Now it'll be real. Joe Thomas is a fat piece of shit. I love Joe. Look at him move, but he's finding somebody. He's finding somebody. Boom. Sitting on the ground. So here we go. Now back to Jrenny's Lombardi Packers defense. J played absolutely phenomenal run defense. I felt like he was cool. If he didn't fall in the backfield with his user, Jrenny's Lombardi Packers run offense was stopped. Now, another thing I want, J did a lot of this match coverage. Now, chat, it's a lot of great man players in here in this chat as he lurks the shit out of Jrenny. Lurks the absolute dog shit out of Jrenny. Like you really got lurked by J. Like absolute lurked the hell out of him. Like this might be the worst lurk in the history of MCS. Jesus. And look at Jrenny is defeated right now. Jrenny is defeated. Look at him. He sees it. Jrenny sees it. I'm gonna lose to J. Oh my God. How am I gonna stop this touch, this jet sweep? This what he's thinking. Here comes the jet sweep. Here comes the jet sweep. Look at Jrenny's face right here. Look, that is a man that got lurked. This is a get lurked face right here. Oh, look at it. Oh, this is the, oh, no, oh, for real. So Jrenny does his thing. Now, what is going through his face right now? He's saying, damn, how am I, now he's just gonna jet sweep me the whole game with Joe. What can I do? Look, and Chet, I want you guys to tell me how many times J came back to the play that got Jrenny scared. He never ran it again. Not once. Not me real. It was looking dark right here. Now this should go to the two minute warning. Now J is such a liar, stealer, scumbag that he bluffs him. He bluffs him here. Because at home, as a J fan, as a J fan, Henry, I'm thinking we're going to the two minute warning. We're going 10, seven and a half time. Jrenny already lost the timeout, but J is a scumbag. J, he tries to sneak, quick snap him. Maybe Jrenny's not ready because I'm thinking he's taking, and he goes for a quick snap when he didn't need to. Did not work out for him. I liked it though. I liked it. He tried to, he tried to, he tried to sneak him. Like maybe if he would have put his controller down it would have worked a little bit better. But we get to a third and three here. Runs the little dive right here. Lamar fights. Now what do we do here, chat? And Jrenny uses the timeout. Now that being said, if he would have waited to run that second play, now chat, we talk about, we talk about what you call all the time. If he would have ran, took this to the two minute warning. Now this stretch would have made Jrenny call a timeout. We'd be sitting at one minute and 20 seconds on the clock right now. That's what we'd be sitting at. One minute and 20 seconds. But J, you know, you can't wear a hat like that and have long hair and, you know, and not have balls. You just gotta have nuts. You can't come to the man's tournament looking like this and forget your nuts at home. So he's gonna go ahead and go for it. I support it. Now, the one thing about Panther Heavy, God forbid it's hard as shit to stop this shit from nothing. Do we agree, chat? It's hard as hell to stop it for no gain. You almost have to get super lucky. That's one of the best things about it is that it's hard to stop for no gain. Now, if you're Jay, we are in milk boat. Milk boat all the way. Jay looks relieved. He's feeling good. Every time you see Jrenny, he looks like he's not having any fun. The Disney movie is over. Are we going back to the money play? Now, not only did he not go back to the money play, look where we're snapping the ball. 20 seconds left. Oh yeah, we'll get to that skimbo. We'll get to that. Was that this drive? Or was that, when was the click on lineman shit? Was it for the fourth down? No, it wasn't. It was later in the game. I thought it was later in the game. It was on the fourth, no. Oh yeah, there it is right there. Look, the Disney, y'all think I'm lying about this Jrenny shit. When is that ever not a call? What? What? Shit, what? Look at Jrenny has the feel. Jrenny's before snap face might be crazy. Look, he even does the, ooh, look, he hits him with a ooh, look. Oh no, it's not playing. Hold on, watch Jrenny watch. Ooh, doesn't get the penalty. And he gets the first down. But then, all right, so I want to know as we see this play right here, and we all think this is going to be the toss flip. Jrenny is scared. He puts Tillman over here. But for me, why are we snapping the 20 seconds, dude? I guess you could always take the clock down and to score, maybe you need more time. But you have your three time mouse, man. Worst case scenario is we are 10, seven and a half time chat. Right? Is that not the worst case scenario? If you're Jay, the worst case scenario is 10, seven and a half time. So we're snapping the 20 seconds. We're going fake. And look at Jrenny's user. Maybe Jrenny is really this good at football that he's queuing the guards and he's looking at the guards and who's pulling. But if this happened to me, after what happened in the first quarter, my user is over here. Am I the only one in the chat? Oh, he was hesitant. He just somebody shitted the hell out of him. Where do you see the bad runs thing? I guess he could have ran, could have cribbed that. Nah, you don't see Tillman. You don't see Super Tillman. Nah, he couldn't have cribbed that. Oh, you all right, go outside. Oh, God damn, hold on. I didn't see Joe Thomas. Hold on. Joe Thomas killed somebody on this one. Oh, you can't get outside of this guy though. I guess he could have went outside. Holy shit, he could have went outside. Yeah, that Deion would have tackled him, honestly. Nah, he not scoring a touchdown on that. You know, then barred and Tillman. He not, y'all made it too much. Cause Deion would have tackled him for no gain if he went outside, really. But Joe was killing people, honestly. But now we relaxed, we're letting some clock run. I like we're letting the clock run. Now this is the play of the game and this is why Journey won the championship. But we talked about earlier, remember when Jay saw it and what you call it, saw it and threw it? Now this one I understand, maybe you want to wait until he gets the sideline so you can get out of bounds. Maybe you get more yards if you get out of bounds, right? But you could also throw it right away. You still have all three of your timeouts. You know, but I understand him waiting and trying to get to the sideline. Right, Chet? You know, I guess he did have every player open. Like I want to see who's covered on this play. This guy's covered. This guy's open, this guy's open. I mean, just because Journey's playing the most shit defense, cause I mean, it's a shit offense. So you got to play shit defense. Cause he's playing covered three, cover four run defense, I guess. Nobody in the middle of the field. Hard flat right here. Just an easy click on, make the play. Boom, picked off. That's the man that, that's the face of a man that just lost the game. Yeah, he should have just lead blocked with Joe Thomas. Yeah. Joe, come on, Joe. Yeah, ain't those a pick. But honestly, as bad as the play was for Jay and as bad as this drive has been for Jay, that was a great play by Journey. We all try it. We don't always get that guy. Sometimes you get a lineman, but you keep trying, honestly. No, it was a good play. It was, I mean, it was a good play. It wasn't like, oh my God, the best ever, but it was a good play. You know, now we have Journey, Disney. Now this is when Journey just, Journey just holds on to the Disney click kicks on, kicks in. You know, the Disney's want to kick in eventually. And if we get back to this, I don't think Journey does anything right here. Jay didn't give anything up right here, did he? Nah, he gave you back shit. Okay. That was that. Nah, I'll be honest. And Jay gets the ball. Like I said, now Ghost has some better plays. Well, Journey is Disney. Yo, y'all don't understand how many eight-year-olds watch Journey play Madden. Like, y'all don't have to understand it. Journey was streamed earlier. If you guys don't follow Journey on Twitch, get it done. His link is below. It probably won't be below, but I'm just saying it's below. Just go on Twitch and search Journey. He's probably the only Journey in the world. Well, if I'm when he was on Twitch and there was people in there I've never heard of before. It was like birthday cake 38 was one of those. Like for real, birthday cake 38 was in the stream. You know what I'm saying? Unicorn Player 13, you know what I'm saying? Lego Master, Master Builder, shit like that. That's who was watching Journey play. And they watch him. You know what I'm saying? I don't understand. Like, you know what I'm saying? Journey, definitely, I'm telling you that Disney starts kicking in. And we're gonna start watching this for Disney plays. We didn't really go back to the squiggly till it was time, Chad. We don't see a lot of squigglys. As we see a dot right here to Lee Smith. We get the fourth down. Maybe he looks go squiggly. Yes, this is his money play is squiggly route. How do you guys feel about the squiggly route being the money play? You guys are telling me it's tough. This is the money play. Out route, squiggly route, post. This is it. Every time he needed to play, he went to this. But I'm telling you, did he punt? Okay, he punts, okay. But I'll tell you, this is the money play. And he don't like it that much. Cause if you don't run it on fourth and five, you don't run it. And there goes Journey's brother. I wish I had a brother I could play for and get into the leaderboards and then get a free couple thousand bucks. I wanna get a brother. No, Jay did not run that Wildcat play. I mean, I'm gonna be honest. The Journey family has pretty conservative drip. Journey, dude, Journey has drip. Jesse, let me tell you, when he's not, when Journey is not playing Madden, he has some drip. I'll be honest, but he just, Journey's not stupid. I'll tell you, y'all think Journey, y'all think Journey's a little slow, like outside of Madden. No, he knows how to play into this Disney role. I will also tell you guys, bro, there is not worse defense in the world than match. Like there's really not worse defense than match. There's really not. I just wanna see, I wanna know, especially like which player is not open here? Especially with, am I tripping? Do y'all think this match is good? Like, first of all, I feel like they don't know, he don't know what the hell's gonna happen. I feel like B's gonna be open regardless. A's open, you know? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like especially with these, you're not gonna man up any of these corner routes or post routes, I feel like B is going to be open, right? In my line chat, he could throw B right here. I don't know. I love going for the pick right here to chat. Gotta love, not that he could do anything, but man, you just got, like this is one of those please Jesus, this is definitely a please, a please Jesus situation. Like the nerve to press Y, like the nerve to press Y, like what? I feel like he could throw to every person when they play. I don't know how. Just give yourself a chance. He gave himself a chance. This is when the Disney starts kicking in. You see that? The Disney start gives him an auto. Jerny has the best run stick ever, that's what I'm saying. Jerny has the best run stick ever, right? They would they tell me? Jerny's run stick is crazy. Let's watch it again. Jerny has the best run stick ever. That's why he's good. Right into a fat fucking stove. Bro, I tell y'all, fucking kidding me. The shit I got to hear, bro. It's like these eight year olds don't see it. Now J is in a hole. You know, we're going squiggly. We got stopped at the first play. Let's go squiggly. I want to see the squiggly dots. I'll be honest. We did not throw to the squiggly guy until it was time and he was super bagged. I'm trying to tell y'all about the Jerny shit. Like y'all think I've been playing. Like every time I play Jerny fucks me up and I'll be thinking it's cause I'm ass. But then I'll be thinking like, well it's really like look at his detackle on 34, like look, chat. Look like look at like, what? Luckily he's a shitter. Bro, the squiggly route is letting me down big time. Like this squiggly route has really just let me down every time I've seen it on the field. Jerny's bumping the shit out of it. He stops. Bro, I'm telling you man, like Jerny really be fucking me up cause he got the best inside zone ever. Like, you can have inside zone defense that worked for everybody. Here we go. Jay with the money on the line. We're going squigglies here, boys. I like this right here though. He went with the out route over here. Good pass lead up. Good rat catch. Good rat catch. Get a couple extra yards. Get those feet in. I'm gonna go back to Lamar. We got the time to look. I'm telling you, Jerny has the body language of a man that doesn't wanna be there. He was who we thought he was, Jay. And you let him off the hook. You wanna crown his ass, then crown his ass. No, no run defense works on Jerny. Ashokobi, Lombardi Packers. Lombardi Packers. He don't do nothing different. They're biting your nails, it's childish. Chatting, everybody's still biting. Oh my God. Look at the, look at the hit stick animations. How many hit sticks animations have we seen? He got a hit stick through a body on this play. What? Somebody just killed Lamar Jackson. Bro, I'm trying to tell you all. Yo, y'all really need to watch Jerny's games. Seriously. Y'all need to watch. And not watch, I'm talking about watch them. Jerny's games might all be on the podcast. We might have to break these down. Okay, back to the squiggly. He's looking for it. He's gonna throw it. Not remotely open. I mean, when you got a 13 zone player catching the ball or swatting the ball, just nod it, bro. He should just put them on an in route. Like what was wrong with an in route? If he puts them on an in route, he catches it and gets five extra yards. But we trusted the squiggly. Now we have to stop the Lombardi Packers and look, Jerny gets drug forward for extra two yards. I just want y'all to see what I see, you know? Big stop there by Jay. Can he hold the door? Are we going back to match coverage? Yes. Oh, what a laser beam. Did he playmaker him that fast? I don't know, it was just the out row, huh? He changed that at the last second. I feel like Jay didn't cover anybody this whole game. Once again, another play, like who, like who is in, like what zone, like what zones are we in right now, Chad? Who is covered? And that's the game, because you get some affordable range. Falls down like a smart human being. GGs. Hey, listen, Jerny's route combos, listen. But Wesley, you see Jerny's bullshit two posts. Look, like y'all think, bro, in the chat, and I'm telling you, master builder 38, be like, Jerny's a mastermind. My man had two posts like this the whole game. Pick one, pick one. Jay didn't cover either of them fuckers. Like, just, hey, Jerny, what's your money play? Put the X up, that's what Jerny ran. Master builder 38, put the X up. When in doubt, put the X up. One of them fuckers gonna be open. Boogs is Disney too. Boogs is the black Disney. He's like, they try to make it, you know, biracial, or so, you know, so, or multiracial, or even saying they try to include everybody. Like, think about a movie, a Disney movie chat. Think about Disney movie where there's one black person. Like Goldberg from the Mighty Ducks. They didn't really want to put them on there, but they had to put a black guy on there just to get him in to get a wider audience. That is Boogs. Boogs is Goldberg. You know what I'm saying? Yes, Boogs is affirmative action. Disney's not dumb. Like, look, I'm telling you, think about, I'm telling you, there's tons of stuff with like one black person. I swear to God, hey Arnold, only had, what should we call it? Only had Harold. What's his name, no, Gerald, right? Gerald? Who I'm telling you, no. Skeeter from Doug, he was the only black person, Skeeter. You know what I'm saying? There's definitely movies. There's definitely Disney stuff where there's only one black person. I'm telling you, Disney, no, Boogs will never get to be easy, bro. Be easy, dude, cause, listen, Boogs might get to be easy from the white guy. Cause the white guy is, he don't know Boogs. But the black guy, he's been around to know that Boogs is this shit is all a fraud. Like he knows the real, like he already knows. Cause it's no, like he already knows that Boogs not gonna cap. He doesn't need to be easy. The white guy might be a little afraid of Boogs. He might hit him with the be easy. You know what I'm saying? Well, you don't get over for it. You don't just become Disney. You know what I'm saying? You gotta see, you already got, you already, people already know you're not Disney. Henry is, Henry's got a shot. He's got an unthreat, Henry has the most unthreatening name in the world. He's a black guy with glasses and an unthreatening name. He's got all it takes. That's, that's what you need. And he's 16. Bro, he is, I'm telling you, watch his games. They're not stupid what, what they do. Watch his games. I'm telling you, Henry's five, six, got the glasses, has no facial hair. You know, his name is, if his name was Hakim or Malik or Jamal, you know what I'm saying? That's not, he wouldn't be Disney, but Henry can be Disney. Try and tell you guys, pay attention. Watch his games. Drenny, I'm telling you. No. Wesley, no, I mean, yeah. Kim was Disney at first. No, Kim wasn't Disney. Kim lost to Disney when he sped at D-Jones. When he's like, you fucking suck. When he was getting blown out. Ah, my God, I wish the podcast was on back then. God, I got, I got, what, listen, I wish the podcast. Remember that? Yeah, the podcast was on when you fucking suck D-Jones. That's when Kim went out, Kim was no longer Disney. Nah, he was just young at that point. You know what I'm saying? But anyway, we got to talk about this booze game. Like, I'll be honest with y'all, man. I go, booze go with Clef, he go with Skimbo. Like these guys are root for it. But I'm be real. It was kind of funny watching booze and them dumb ass glasses and that big ass D-Rag. Cause booze, booze don't get a regular sized D-Rag. That fucker's for, he got the extra large. He can't get them from the poppy store. Cause his shit, I can't lie. You don't notice how big his cranium is until he put the D-Rag on and it's shiny. Like, holy shit. But for me, it was kind of funny watching him get popped with them dumb ass glasses on. Cause the glasses kind of look regular sized. The glasses kind of look regular on his regular stream. But when you put them on the big stage, dude, these glasses were like this. He better seen everything and he was still throwing picks. Am I lying with you? Glasses are this damn big. Then for some reason, booze and evil Ken should have switched jersey sizes. 1000%. Booze got an extra large jersey on. You know what I'm saying? He got a D-Rag on. I'm telling you, the white be easy guy was a little bit afraid of booze. The streets, people that might have thought booze was actually a little hood. But we watched this game. Now I'll tell you, this little guy, EJ, he was kind of laser and shit, chat. Can we agree? He was kind of laser and shit. There really was no kind, he was laser and shit. Now, we have to set the tone of this game. I will be congratulating my man, Bugs. We'll be out there saying, friend hoping he wins this for his belt. He looks really good after he got out of this game and he played somebody that never played the game. Somebody has never seen a fade route in his life. Bugs popped that shit. So I'm glad he recovered from these first game jitters and went ahead and really, I mean, he opened up the offense game two. Game three or game one? My man, DJ, another, listen. I feel like the younger you look, the better off you chances are to win. So I'm starting to feel that way. Bugs has this chin hair that's like, dude. Come on, not having a beard ain't for everybody. I'm saying you was cool with the little, Bugs was cool with the, Bugs was cool with the little chin, the little beard, the little goatee. He was cool with that. That was his wave. Now he's getting crazy. Now this guy was late. Now, let's go back to, ain't really nothing to go back to really. Ain't nothing to see. This is the end of the game. Now, but I said, this is DJ. That was Disney Jean, might be right. Now I'll tell you this right now. This is his first event. Now this kid honestly looks like he's a teenager. You know, I don't know how old he is. If anybody in the chat knows DJ, if you're in the chat, thanks for supporting. I don't know, I've never seen this person. I'm, he's obviously a PlayStation dude. I don't know him. 19, okay. So he's young, his first event, right? As he lasers for the game. Game is, and Bugs got to lean back like, bro, I really lost this little kid. I got my durag on. I got these dumb ass glasses on. I got half a beard and I lost to this 19 year old child. He's sick. Look how, bro, he's sick. Cause in his head, all he hears is me laughing at his dumb ass right now. This is W's one laughing my dumb ass right now. That's what he says. That's what he thinking. Damn, damn, his big, he want to throw these glasses off. Like he's sick right now. Like these big ass, he like, damn, I put this durag on for nothing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I got these big ass $100 glasses to look like an asshole. You know what I'm saying? Now this kid, he don't really, you know what I'm saying? It's not about, he has, let me move this over a little bit. It's not that he hasn't been in this situation. He hasn't been on a situation in the big stage. You know what I'm saying? So he has all three timeouts, run the ball, put on conservative, get the ball in the middle of the field. Nice little run there. He ran to the right. That's okay. Now, how would we do this chat? I would probably just come out and field go right now. That's what I would do. Boom, field go making wastes his last time out, right? Smart right here. DJ wanna type in the chat and he not subbed. I can't do it, man. We'll talk about it later, bro. Can't listen. DJ wanna type in the chat. All right. I'll get them myself. Oh, there's my man Postman Jones out here showing the love. See, I mean, that's how I feel a little bit. How are you not subbed to the podcast? So we get to this point. Yeah, he got five dollars, man. Big ballers, man. Appreciate all y'all that are subbed, man. I wanna do something more for myself. Now, here we get here. Let's hear it. Now, let's be honest here, chat. This guy has no fucking clue what DJ is talking about. He's got no clue. What? A field go? There's ice? There's ice in this? Let me tell you this right now, chat. EA needs to have a rule. DJ, there he is. Congratulations on the run. Shoulda won. You got cheated the hell. But anyway, chat, let me tell you this, but let's come home real quick. Let's get right here. Let's get right here. Cause this type of thing that makes me angry. We need a rule. This needs to be the rule. If you can do this shit in the game, you can do it on the stage. That's the rule. That's it. Matt Marku needs to come out, go man, League Ops, make the video. This is the rule for ice field goals. If you can do it, do it. If you can avoid it, avoid it. And fix the goddamn game. That's it. Make the rule for it. Cause mode did the shit to win the belt. We talked about it on a podcast. If you can do it in a game, you can do it. That's it. There needs to be a rule, period, from the beginning of the year to now. There's been a rule. Because then fucking Larry here, this damn, be easy guy. This guy, cause honestly, this guy knows what he's talking about a little bit. I'm gonna be honest. DJ really kind of don't know what he's talking about either, right? But this guy Larry has no goddamn idea what's going on. No idea. If there was a rule in place, Larry would know what to do. Right, Chet? Am I wrong? He would know what to do. But because there's no rule, my man DJ is speaking Chinese to Larry right now. And here's the worst part. Larry, they gotta kind of seem to know what they're talking about, right? Can hear him talking. So they just confusing my man even worse. What the fuck, dummy? I can call the police. I can run the ball and then call the time I'll kick you through when I'm good. Let me double check. Boog shaking like a motherfucker. Look at this. Yo, have you ever seen a human being shake like this? Hold that big ass Osmosis water. Look at this shit. His wife ain't letting him play the game no more this year. His wife is not letting him play video games because he lost to DJ. Look at him shaking like shit. Oh, scared ass, man. Pretty sure he's quaking. Look, now Matt Marku here come Matt. Now does anybody have any? Listen up. How many field goals has Matt Marku kicked in his life? Chat, give me the number of how many field goals Matt Marku has kicked in his life from childhood to now. Give me the number. I don't even know if he watches the game. I don't know if he watches the game. He has no fucking clue what's going on. None. What? What? I'm pretty sure they're gonna allow it to run the ball. He didn't bring the field goal unit out. So, and Boogs, meanwhile, Boogs is in fucking misery because he know he lost. Boogs knew he lost. Boogs wanna check. Boogs wanna take off the du-rag and them stupid ass glasses right away. He's hot, shaking, pissed. He know everybody gonna kill him. Me included. Malcolm the first motherfucker to kill him. Not until he get home and he calm down and he reach out to me first though. Cause you know, I won't reach out to you. I know you grieving a little bit, but once you reach out, ho-ho-ho-ho. God damn. So, let me tell you, but y'all have no idea how sick Boogs, cause y'all, cause I can't express the sickness in Boogs stomach right now. Like, there's no food in his stomach. There's no food. But the sick, like, y'all have no, I'm thinking about the next move, y'all have no idea the sickness in his stomach. Like, Joe, look, just the- You're so emotional. I know it. I don't fucking know. Boogs is hoping like, Boogs is like, I hope Matt is so dumb we restarting the whole game or something. I'm telling you, Boogs is like, I hope Matt is so dumb we take the ball back to the 50. I swear to God. Look at this fucking collar on Marku. If a question Marku said, huh? What? What? Yeah. Yeah, because the answer to that is yes. Okay. You can't avoid the ice. You can't avoid the ice. If you get the field goal, you- I can't avoid the ice. What the hell does that mean? Okay. But I can run a play? Got it? Yeah. Okay, so poor kid. Matt Marku coming out the back. That took me times. You got the commissioner to come out and give you official ruling. So, as we start this chat, let's come home now. Let's come home. Let's come here, Chad. Now, first of all, you can't avoid ice. Now, Marku has, this is another thing that makes him- He has no idea how people used to avoid ice or how people avoid ice now. He has no fucking idea. Right? No idea. Now, this, now, Bulls called time out when he came out field goal, which we all would have. Right, Chad? We all would have. And DJ doing the right thing. He gonna call time out. But if you do call a play and then go- Listen, this is 1000% the right thing to do. He goes heads and runs. So it might not be ice. Now, look. He should be able to run a play here. He has three time outs. Run the ball. Yeah, Marku don't know no fucking- Marku don't know how to avoid ice. He don't know- He don't even know about audible. He don't know shit. And he don't wanna ask. He does try, I don't know. Just run the ball up the middle, call my time out again. Hands it off to Pollard. He loses a yard. I don't know if that's gonna- Take it down. I'm a three second man. I don't know why. Now, I can't lie. I was kinda shook right here when like everything disappeared. Runs the ball. I don't want this to disappear right now. Like why does this disappear right here? You know what I'm saying, Chad? I can't see the time. It came back right away, but that kinda tripped me out. I'm a three second man. I don't know where you are. Are you a two second? Chad, let me know if you're a two second person or one second person, a four second person. Me, I'm a time out at three seconds. I'm a three second, right? I'm a three second. I don't know where y'all at. Are you a two second guy or a four second guy? I'm a three. I like to go for the three. Drenny, you're a one. I think you're lying. That's how I know. That's how you know that Drenny said one. So Disney has never cheated him where he can't call time out on time. Listen, it's coming home. That's how you know Disney just cheats. Cause the rest of us, if the rest of us regular human beings tried to call time out at one, Gigi's game over. We're going over time. There we go. So we have, we have what you guys said, you two, let me know if you time out at one second, two seconds or three. I'm a three second man myself in multiple ways. Ha! Anyway. So this man called second three time out. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Now, that's what I asked you. Does anybody, listen, listen, listen, cause this makes me mad. Is there anybody in the building, in the stream right now? Is there anybody that, whether you play Madden, whether you work for Madden, whether you used to play Madden, whether you're here just to laugh at bugs? Cause that'd be a pretty good damn reason to be in the podcast. But does anybody really know whether this field goal is going to be ice or not? Does anybody know the science behind this shit? Does anybody know? Seriously? It's a yes. Does anybody really know what's going to happen? Cause I honestly, I don't, but I'm not a nerd. I don't really know shit about Madden. I really don't know any of the intricacies, but do you guys have any idea? Like what's the rules for ice if he runs a play between the timeout now is the ice gone? Seriously? So he called timeout, I think journey full of shit right now. No, seriously, that, cause I don't know. And I honestly feel like, I feel like man players really don't have the best idea out of it. Yeah, some people say I heard a 10 second rule. I heard a bunch of different rules because he ran a play and then called timeout. That's my saying. Okay. Kicker awareness? What? All right, y'all. That's been real, bro. This pot. My man said, kicker awareness. That's what I thought. Like if you ran a play, so honestly, I feel like I'm getting a bunch of different answers. You know, I really am. No, but seriously, so for me, it's like, yeah, if you like, you really never know. But, and this poor kid, this is the biggest game he's ever played. Bugs, he played a couple of games bigger than him, but this is pretty big game for books too. You know, he, he played a final four. I think one time or a final six. Now he played a final four one time. So, big game, but this is the first time on stage. So he wanna make sure he don't get yelled at, but after talking to those goddamn buffoons, I would say, like, at some point you'd be like, yo, these guys have no fucking idea what you're talking about. When you literally look at the commissioner, ask him a question and he stares at you like, bro, kick the field goal. He must have, he must have had the six, the kicker awareness. So we get here. Not only, other thing that we have not talked about here, chat. This gives Bugs time to put Dion Sanders as his kicker guy, as his blocker. Bugs being the savvy veteran. He had the glasses. The do rag is tight. He could think about shit. Things were moving fast for him. He was thinking about how his wife was not gonna let him play Madden no more this week because he didn't make the money, you know what I'm saying? But he thought if I put Dion there, I could block the kick. So during this time out, where poor fellow DJ is talking to the commissioner who doesn't know what the hell is going on, Bugs says, hmm, let me put Dion a kicker. I know y'all can't see the screen. I see the same thing y'all seeing. Relax, y'all not missing shit? Okay. Yeah, there goes. I'm not iced. Now this motherfucker pop up like he don't want on defense. Hold up, he pop, look how he pop up. Like he on defense. I see. He calls his own timeout, so I don't think you can get any iced available because, yeah, there you go. What? Why am I not iced? Motherfucker, this bitch is going through the field. Go up, hold so damn fast. What? What? I see. He calls his own timeout, so I don't think— There shouldn't be any iced available because— Because look. We're in a situation before— We're all in a situation, right, Cheq? The number one thing you are thinking about is I hope I'm not ice. I'm hope I'm not iced. I hope I'm not iced. I hope I'm not iced. I hope I'm not iced. I hope I'm not iced. I'm hope I'm not iced. I hope I'm not iced. I hope I'm not iced. That's all you're thinking. And he looked back like he— Like he got caught stealing. Like he deadass looked back like yo, I got caught stealing. I got caught stealing. It does avoid ice, so. I see. He called his own timeout so I don't think he's got ice available because... Look! He got caught stealing! Buzz is like, yo, just let me lose. It's not. It's not. Now, Larry got to call Matt back. Yeah. What's this ice? Here comes Big Collar Matt. He got the rulebook in his collar. Now, Matt looks at Larry because, yeah, Larry got the fucking answers. Yeah! Larry got him from playing CFM last night. Larry got... Look at Matt. Look at Larry. Look. Larry? What do you think? Larry? Oh, yeah. He's kicking. What?! He checked his plays. Yeah, Matt. He watched them call his plays. What the fuck is this? Like, what? Yo, Matt got to Larry. Did you watch his plays? This is Larry's job, really. That's what we need to know. Well, we're going to have a delay again. This is certainly added drama. I swear, he's... I swear to God. Oh, it's taking away from the drama for sure. It is what it is. We can have a semi-final. At this point, Buzz is like... No, no, this is my point. At this point, Buzz is like... Buzz is kind of like... Because I'll tell you what, problem was probably to take this and run with it. Problem was probably like, hell no, he's supposed to be iced. We're not kicking this till he's iced. Buzz kind of... He really didn't know how to deal with this, honestly. Because Buzz knows that it's nothing I can really do. But shit, they're going to give me... They're going to give me a little leash. I might have to run with it. This is just... Bro, y'all have no idea how funny I think this interaction between Larry, the clipboard guy, and the Commissioner of Madden. The Commissioner. This isn't another Larry. This is the Commissioner of the MCS. That's who this is. It's not iced. The reason he's not iced is because he called his own time out. The only way he can be iced is by... In my books, this is fair. He looks at Larry. This is where the rules... I didn't do anything to avoid it, so we play as a... If he came out in fake field goal, which we would never know, I'd burn the time out. I mean, it's really no way to tell if he doesn't show play art or anything like that. If I caught him out, you could check it again. Well, we're going to have a delay again. This is certainly added drama and taken away from a little bit of the drama as well. It's taken away from the drama, for sure. It is what it is. We can have a semi-final. Living a VAR... Instant replay kind of world, and they're just trying to figure out... Because... You know, there has been... You know, things happening where guys call time out during the kick meter, things like that. So there's a super sensitivity now to the competitors about making sure they're doing things the right way. And for a guy being only 19 years old, he wants to make sure that, hey, I'm going to kick a game-winning field goal. Doing everything right here. It's my first time on the big stage. Am I doing everything right, bro? Tell you man, like I said, wise man once told me, man, you ask for forgiveness, you don't ask for permission. That means if you don't know, just do this shit. For real. Because if he kicks this field goal, bang, butter, he's advancing to the tournament. What can Boog say? I want to redo? I want ice? Is that what he can say? Like seriously, if he just kicks... What is the worst-case scenario? Are they going to kick him out of the tournament? He broke the rules, he's out? No, seriously, what? You got to ask yourself, man, a lot of what I do is like, what's the worst-case scenario? A lot of what I do, what's the worst... And for DJ, what's the worst-case scenario? Did he make a kicking move on? They can't, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, let's go back to the game. So after all this shit, can I kick it? Please, Matt Marku? Can I kick it? I will attempt kicking a field goal here, not iced. DJ is doing nothing wrong, he's asking for... Now here on Buzz, after the delay of game, this is after the delay of game, Chad. This is not before the delay, this is after he declined the delay of game for the kid. I'm going to put Deion in, no more 10 caps. So we have Deion here, and I'm going to tell you this. Listen, Chad, I don't care what man this is, this should be a miss. What is it? 42? 49-yard field goal for the win. You missed this that bad. You know what I'm saying? You missed this that bad. You should miss this. Now he blocks this kick. Now let me tell you something. Now I've heard rumors, Chad. And this shit, that's a good point. I've heard rumors that when you miss a field goal this bad, it's easier to kick. Or it's easier to block. Do you guys think that's true? The worst you miss a kick is it easier to block it. That's my point. Do you think it's easier to block when you miss a kick this bad? And I agree, it should be the case. You know what I mean? Because maybe that's equivalent to a bad snap or something like that where they could get home, you know? Do you guys think that's true? And that's another thing. Crotobin says it's the situation. So do you guys think maybe the situation is the easier to kick field goals, from block field goals in clutch situations like this? Is it easier to block them when they need the field goal? Like when is it easier to block? What do you think? You know? The situation and the kick? I have a point. And we can talk about this. I mean, block field goals suck for competitive man players. They do. But this was probably the most exciting play for the viewers to watch in the whole MCS, right? Deion has the clutch trade. I don't know. Like for all of the Master Builder 38s that watch bugs in Drenny play Madden, this was an exciting play. It's a 49. He's going to cry. I'm going to cry. I'll walk into this game. The legend of Dugani. Where are the glasses going up? My God. What a crazy ending to this game. Damn. I got it. Actually insane, Scott. I'll be sick. All right. Last person to call time out. Now let me tell you something. There shouldn't be. It's a 49 yarder. Here comes the ball. No, hold on. Hold on. I watch out here to Drenny. That's the same thing he did when he goes offside against J. This little gas bed, Drenny makes listen. It's the same thing he did the whole game versus J. Last person to call time out. There shouldn't be. That was so bad for the kid, man. He's moving on to the front. Oh, my God. I walked this off in regular. Let me tell you another thing about this. It's another thing. Like, okay, you missed this kick, right? Say he misses it, right? Let me tell you something. These guys are sitting right next to each other. I will tell you this. Every field goal I've ever kicked when I'm sitting this close to somebody, I 1,000% am looking at their hands. I want to watch this kid's like his whole demeanor. Obviously missed it. I never missed the field goal like on the big field goal. But he just leans back. He doesn't even look over. He just lets it go. And he gets blocked. Dude, I want y'all to hear DJ though, too. I don't know if y'all listen. No, listen. I don't know if y'all really listen to DJ during these five seconds. I don't know if y'all really like... This is what I want y'all to do this time, chat. I want y'all to watch him. I want y'all to watch him all the way. Nothing else. Don't look at bugs, goofy ass. Just watch DJ this whole... I'm telling you. I wish I could mute everything but DJ. There shouldn't be... It's a 49. Those ain't want to curse and shit. What a sell-out, bro. Like, for real, I can't. I can't deal. He said, let's fuck. But he's edited himself. Like, bro, y'all can't. This can't be. Bro, he said, let's fuck. Let's fuck. Oh, cover up my mic. The Disney Traits mic. Let's fuck. Y'all see how I cover his mic? My kid's watching. Listen, kids. They just want us some money. We going on vacation. You hear me? Bro, that shit was bad. Bugs. And this is what Pro's been asking you guys. What's the luckiest thing y'all have seen? By far, that's the luckiest. That is the luckiest shit we have seen. We've seen black field goals. Like, I remember S. Delo blacked a bunch of field goals. That was the luckiest shit to win. It's a single-handedly winning game that he lost. Like, that game was over. You know what I'm saying, Chet? Bugs don't get cheated. When did bugs get cheated, Blackie? What planet are you on that bugs got cheated? Bugs got cheated. Bugs ain't got cheated. All right, so are we talking about group play games? I know we ain't talking about group play. I know that's not what we're doing right now. Are we talking about group play? Is that what we're talking about group play? All right, I'm done. I'm done here, Chet. But bugs made it out of group. No, bugs made it out. What y'all talking about, man? I don't know what tournament y'all talking about. The man challenge? Dreaming and winning the last one, didn't he? I don't remember. I guess he did. I really don't remember. Bugs, y'all have no idea the shit, but bugs can never complain about man. Literally, the luckiest shit in the world. It's unfathomable the shit he's got. No, man, bugs, it's not even like, there's nobody even close. There's nobody even close to second place. There's not even a second place you argue a bunch of different person, man. For real, like, I don't even think. I can't even think of somebody second. So we're talking about a drop pick. My man literally just won the tournament. Like, that was the single, I can't think of one lucky play that determined the whole game. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, bugs versus journey. You're not journey, like, yo, bugs luck cannot beat journeys to Disney. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Fancy, I understand. Like, y'all can't bring that up. So we're talking about one game whereas Disney versus Disney, Disney versus Disney crime cannot be brought into this discussion. Problem versus joke. Problem running kickbacks. Skimbo, you're not even close to bugs. Like, bro, Skimbo, you're not even close. At this point, we really can't call another man and player lucky. For real, there's not another lucky man player. There's us that play Madden, then there's fucking bugs who gets lucky. That's it. Like, this shit, that shit was crazy because I'll ask you guys this too. We've seen some block kicks. How many block kicks have gone for a touchdown? That's what I want to know. Because I'm going to be real. My man, DJ, he had the brown paper bag out there. So I don't know, I might have liked DJ in overtime. User, that's what I'm talking about. Man, he'd be talking crazy. How many have we seen run back for a touchdown? Man, super lucky. Super bullshit. User, super bullshit. Y'all think that field goal goes in? That's another question. I'm going to ask you yes or no chat. No, yes or no. Is it good? Or did he miss that field goal? With his accuracy. Now, I've been, I've said on his podcast a bunch of times, I think the accuracy should be more, what's it called? More punishing. How about that? Way more punishing. And if you miss that bad, it should definitely be a missed kill goal. Do you guys think it goes in? This is it. Yes. If it goes in, know if he's going to miss it. Let me know. Good. Field goal could go down the middle. Skimbo's not lying. I feel like every field goal goes down the middle. We don't even have one that like, flirts with the upright anymore. I mean, the one thing about the block, now we can talk about the other thing with the blocks. Our block field goal is really that bad for man. Talk to me. Because as a competitor, you hate them. But as a viewer, and we all want to talk about what's good for man. What can make the viewership go up? You know what I'm saying? Like what can make that better? And I think block field was a pretty damn exciting. You know, that play was awesome. Like I said, for my man master builder 38, the bug sub, a journey sub, he wants to watch the block field goals. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like they have done a lot for you to avoid that. You know, and especially at a live event, because you can look at the motherfuckers fingers. They are kicking his seat. There's no, what's the rule? Why can't I kick his seat? Why can't I kick? Boog's legs aren't long enough to reach my seat, but I could kick his damn seat. Right? Why can't I kick his seat? And then like the field goal goal. Matt Marku don't know the rules. Hey, Boog's would have said, man, he kicked my seat. Marku would have said, this is what it is. That's what he would have said. Yeah. Like there's so much you can do to avoid ice, or not avoid ice, avoid the block. You could have hit the field goal perfect. Like you guys said, it could have been closer to perfect, would have been less likely to be blocked. You know what I'm saying? So for me, they definitely had tuned them down, but do you guys want them to get rid of the block field goals altogether? Should that be something only on sim mode, only on all pro? What do you guys think? For me, I think, I think I like how it is. Boog's is definitely short, but there's like six tall Madden players in the community. There's like six. Madden players that are over six foot. Like there's like six of us. Exactly. See, Skimbo said a problem. You got to have some moxie. That's what they call that moxie. You got to be there before. And DJ had the opposite of moxie. What DJ did was like, I'm the dickhead that's doing everything I possibly can to get my field goal blocked or miss the field goal. Everything he can. Like the dumbest shit in the world he can do to get his field goal blocked. He did that. Me, I want to say shit. Kick the ball. Good game. Next round. D-Krump. Yeah, that's gonna work. Let's, let's, let's agree. That's what people are. Let's agree to play with no abilities. Let's agree to the client off-sides penalties. Let's, let's agree. Like no, dude. People want to do what they got to do to get some money. Exactly. Wesley. Let's agree. Nah, he had morals. He just don't, he was just, he ain't had no moxie. Chet, you guys heard of where moxie? Moxie is a good vocabulary word. Make sure you guys use that. Moxie. I think moxie is an important thing to have. You know what I'm saying? Moxie. Word of the day. A word of the podcast. Wit. You guys didn't know what the hell wit meant. Does it, does it, is there anybody, you guys have to know wit. I didn't think wit was like word of the day. Wit and moxie. There you go. Since you guys didn't know wit. People would say ha ha. You said wit. Ha ha ha. There's a difference between wit and wit. I said wit today and moxie. There you go. Look it up. I don't know how to spell it. I'll be honest with you guys. Word of the podcast. Moxie and Lit. There you go. Word of the podcast. Moxie and Lit. All-Star team up. Anyway Chet, this was the podcast episode 57. I don't think I'm playing All-Star team up. Maybe not till later. Got a couple of things I want to do. Like I said, if you're on YouTube, hit the like button. Comment below one. Do you like black field goals? Do you miss them? Do you love them? Does Matt Marku have any fucking idea how to play Madden? Like seriously, does he have any idea? That's what I'll ask you. Does he have any idea that you can come out and fake field goal and then audible to field goal and you won't be iced? Does he have any idea about that? Does he have any idea about Madden in general? Does he know that there's four downs? Does he know that there, does he know that you can, he's either going to run or he's either going to pass? Does Matt Marku know that? Does he think there's a third option? That's what I'm asking. YouTube, I'm asking you guys that comment below with the like button. You guys, I'm getting over a thousand views on two, three hour podcasts every week. So I appreciate you guys, man. A lot of people analytically put my podcast on the YouTube. Not that popping. You know what I'm saying? It's going to bring it down a little bit. But we're working on something to make it a little bit better. So all YouTube guys are going to make it a lot easier for you guys to watch the podcast and all the highlights. So if you're there, hit that like button, comment below.