 Come on, come on! I want to see what happens! Just because I had a nightmare about a church doesn't mean my hand's gonna go through the mirror. Ooh, I got a phone call from, uh, Steven Bay. He wants us to do spiders. Now back to the mirror. Oh, and welcome to another edition of Frightfully Forgotten's Trash or Treasure. As you can see, I'm the treasure. I'm clearly the trash. Dorned to ribbons. Today we have another Patreon request. This is requested by Steven Bay, and he wanted us to cover 2000s spiders. Steven Bay actually has a podcast of his own called The Analog Jones Podcast, which we were guests on a couple of months ago. So we'll put a link to that in the description. This movie is directed by Gary Jones, who also directed Crocodile 2, Death Swamp, Death Swamp, and Boogie Man 3. Lana Perrilla is in this. Plays the starring role. Mark Fallon is in this. He's in The Hidden, just to mention one horror movie that he's in. So spiders starts off with all these guys at NASA. They're about to launch this shuttle, doing some experiments up in space where they got these spiders. Injecting these spiders with some sort of serum. We're not quite sure what's in this serum yet. Then one of the spiders gets kind of loose, bites one guy, and hell starts to break loose. These guys get in a little bubbly. We're then introduced to our main character, Marcy, who is a journalist at a college newspaper. Super into like UFOs and conspiracy theories. This couple shows up, who claim to be aliens. And she's kind of like, egging them on and balloons their story. And we're finding it hard to adjust to life on Earth. Then her editor shows up, boots these guys out. Well, you can't let these people in here. He tells her just to stick to her story she's supposed to cover, which is the shuttle that got launched. Her and two friends decide to like break into this NASA secured area. Area 21. Her friends are like, come on, let's go. You're not going to find anything here. Then she gets a call from her boss saying, where have you been? Like it's all over the news. The shuttle burned up in the atmosphere and you're not here to cover it. So I'm going to get someone else to cover. You're fired. They're about to leave. And as they're about to hop the fence, they see the shuttle come down. It's all slowly crashes right basically in front of them. They get into the shuttle and this is where we see the havoc that's been wreaked by these spiders. And everybody's all bubbled up. Man, that guy's jacked up. Jacked? He's turned to pieces. Fucking spiders had a day on them. Military shows up right away. The paramedics show up too. They want to actually help this guy. Commanding officer says, no, like he's coming with us. Just pulls out his gun and shoots him. Marcy and her two friends see what's going on and they hide in the back of one of these trucks. And then they end up dumping all these bodies on top of them and everything. They take the bodies into this compound and Marcy and her friends get out of the truck and they try and find out what's going on. They come into this room, like this evidence room, and one of them is an alien. Little baby alien. Yeah, and it looks like the one from X-Files. They stumble upon the room that the guy was taken to. He starts asking for help again. You know, help me. This giant spider comes out of the guy's mouth. Like breaks open his face. Yeah, you see his chin all come down. The spider just shoots out running amok. And all these people come in to try and see what's going on and to help. And the spider starts killing all these people in the room. This spider starts killing all the people in the compound one at a time, basically. Marcy ends up escaping with the help of one of the military guys. And they go back to Marcy's office where the commander guy is waiting for them. And that's where we're going to end it. We're going to see what happens with Marcy and that commander guy keep watching spiders. So, spiders, is it trash or treasure? Well, that'll lead us to the treasure part of this movie. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. This movie is just, you know, balls to the walls, camp from start to finish. It doesn't take itself too seriously, and therefore you don't take it seriously. You just have a fun time watching it. Right, they know what they're doing. It actually feels a lot like a modern day Roger Corman film. You know, it's kind of low budget, but they're doing the best they can with the budget they got, which is what Roger Corman was notorious for. Yeah. And the sets for this movie is really good too. You believe every setting that these people are in, right? From Marcy's office to that military compound outside where the NASA shuttle landed, and inside too. Yeah. It doesn't look cheap. It looks like they're really there. The NASA command center is like, ah, fuck, that's all this real equipment. Yep. That underground base, like, what a great setting. I don't know where they shot it, but it looks like they shot it at a real military underground base. Obviously they had to get some permits or something to shoot in these places. The kills in this movie are pretty good too. And they're all, of course, spider-related, right? And the spider uses what he's got, catching people in the web and then climbing over them. The pinchers pierce the flesh. Whoever gets bitten gets spiders coming out of them too, which is cool. Which is super cool. Because the spider might not kill outright, but more spiders are going to pop out of you, kind of like alien. Yeah, and that will kill you. The acting in this was surprisingly good. You know, it's not great acting, but it's good for what it is. For the most part, fairly believable acting, considering it's such an unbelievable situation that they're in, right? They're in, right? And the pacing is great for this movie. Non-stop, basically, and it keeps escalating. It doesn't plateau anywhere. It just keeps building and building until the final scene. Crazy. Like, you never imagined this movie to end like that. That's right. Hanging off a helicopter with bazookas and all this stuff. Whoa! What the fuck? From spiders to a helicopter shooting bazookas and shit. Like, what the hell? The comedy works pretty well in this movie too, right? It's not so crazy and over-the-top stupid comedy. It's the odd joke here and there, and then they use the context of the movie as comedy. As the comedy too. The campiness is the comedy, right? Yeah, so it works pretty well. Yeah, there's not many outright jokes, but it's more the situation. People, you know, getting torn up by the spider. That's the comedy. Yeah, exactly. Practical effects in this movie are surprisingly very, very good. Yeah. You know, when the guys get bit by the spider and they're all bubbled up, that bladder effect that they call it. And, you know, the spider, like, when it's a practical spider, it looks good. Like, when that spider busts out of the guy's face. Oh, that's fucking amazing. It looked really good. And cringe-worthy too. Yeah. Like, so good that you're like, Oh, damn. That segues us into the trash of this movie, which is the effects. The other end of the effects. Exactly. The shitty CGI. So bad. And the fact that there's a great practical effects and really bad CG effects in the same scene stands out like a sore thumb. Yeah. Like, when the spider comes out of the guy's face, it looks great. And then it cuts to some CG version of it climbing onto walls. Yeah, like, what are you guys doing? Like, obviously you had everything there for the practical effect. But how did you just find a way to do that practically? When the shuttle crashes and it's all exploding, was that really bad? Like, just plopped on top of the shuttle explosions? You can see all that? Yeah. Oh, it's so bad. That's like, painted on. Yeah, basically drawn on. Yeah. A lot of that shit takes away from the movie. As soon as you see something so blatantly fake, it takes you out of the movie. Especially when it's in the same scene as a good practical effect. It's like, they're butting at each other, right? They're just butting heads. Almost rather have been all practical or all CG because it just doesn't work like this. Exactly. It doesn't fit. It doesn't even seem like you're watching the same movie. If it was all shitty CGI, at least you could have a good laugh. Yeah. Right? It's like, look how bad that is. But instead, you're saying how bad it is and it's not funny. Like, if Jurassic Park was the perfect example to use practical and CG together to make it look flawless, this is the opposite version of how not to do it. Yeah, exactly. The dialogue in this movie is pretty poor. Not well written. People really don't speak like this in real life. You know, the actors actually did a pretty good job delivering this poor dialogue. Yeah. And it falls into the trap of, like, these kinds of movies too, right? Oh my God! What the fuck is going on here? We need to get the fuck out of here. Like, there's too much fucking swearing. As you're swearing? Yeah. Like, I don't mind a lot of swearing in a movie, but it needs to be like... It needs to fit properly, right? It needs to fit. Yeah, it needs to fit. Do constantly be saying what the fuck is going on here. That's just piss-poor writing. Yeah, you can't think of a different line. Yeah, they know what's going on. They don't need to say that. Now, this is a hard one, because it's one of the kind of charms of the movie, is the plot. It's actually a really stupid plot. It's really dumb. So that aspect of it is trash, but the fact that they're able to actually deliver it in a fun way is the treasure. So the plot is kind of... It's on both sides, right? But it's a pretty stupid plot. Like, why do you need to take spiders up to space so you can inject them with this special DNA? Can't you just do it in the lab? Yeah, well, they explain it, but it's still kind of stupid. Yeah. The ending is pretty stupid, too, in this movie. Like, it's so over-the-top-slash-ridiculous that it's trashy. Marcy takes a bazooka which she's never shot before in her life. Hanging off of a helicopter. Yeah. Like, she ends up getting like a bullseye right on the fucking spider. Right down the throat? Yeah, right. You never shot a bazooka in your life. You got this great aim. No kickback. Yeah, yeah, nothing. She even tells him she doesn't know if she can do this. He's all, oh yeah, you'll do fine. So it's a fun ending, but it is completely unbelievable. Right. And like the fact that the spider's still on the loose. Still on the loose. Climbing these big skyscrapers, the military isn't doing anything about it. So this woman who's a reporter has to take it upon herself to get on this helicopter and kill this spider. Aren't there people paid to do it? Yeah, exactly. Bring in the National Guard or something. More qualified people that can take care of this shit. And the movie makes fun of Canada too, right? There's like doing that procedure in space and oh, where's this piece of equipment from? It's from Canada. Oh, well that figures. For that reason we got to put that in the trash pile and making fun of Canada. And we make some good stuff. Yeah. Not sure what exactly. Maple syrup. So overall, spiders from 2000 is a trash or treasure? It's treasure. I'll have to vote treasure too. Because it's a lot of fun and it knows what it is and it's just a romp. It's not an intellectual piece here, you know. So if you're looking for something very fun just to throw on TV and laugh at and not take too seriously and have a couple of drinks with some pals, it's a good like frat movie. Like it's something you picture watching in college with your buddies and having a good laugh about. But it is super 2000. Like the glasses, the super 2000s glasses and what everyone's wearing is like, oh man. It takes me back to Stigmata. So until next time keep drinking and watch out for them spiders.