 All right, we've got some technique about the star here. What's going on man? What are you doing here at the C3? I'm just coming in here supporting the cause. Cliff is a great friend of mine And he's been you know a big influence and me and my wrestling career and my ventures and my everyday life So I why not come and support this pretty cool scenario that's going on here. He said you get some Nike stuff going on What's going on here? Yeah, so I recently left ASIC So I was a global product line manager for ASICs and one of the cool things that I got to do Within ASICs was develop the wrestling global wrestling shoe line and now I moved over to Nike and You know, I can't really touch base on what exactly I'm gonna be doing because it's all confidential But you guys will see some stuff coming out pretty soon. Jordan Burroughs said a lot of good things about you Said that he was really worked a lot with you interactively on the shoe that he did. Yeah You know now that you're gone, that's probably gonna be a little different for him. Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen there I know that when I Talked to Jordan about my departure. That was one of the conversations we had I'm very confident that ASICs in general will make sure that he's well taken care of There's some people behind the scenes that will make that happen I know Jordan I have a really tight connection because I wrestled he wrestled and having somebody with That background work on his shoe Really kind of brought it into fruition on what he wanted kind of his suit to define right Jordan Burroughs and his design and colors So I don't know how much influence he's gonna have moving forward But like I said, I think you know ASICs will definitely make sure that he's well taken care of But under you a wrestler he had a ton and that's yeah talk about wrestlers Wrestlers like dealing with wrestlers. Yes, no matter what we like dealing with one another. Yeah, I see it here It's cauliflower broken. I know that that's a person who I can I can deal with them And then I've got a brotherhood with kinship You know looking at that I mean he couldn't say enough good things now the creative You know it's gonna be a little different, but how can you take what you did at ASICs over to Nike and and get them to the next level? Well, it's just influence. I mean, you know, I learned a lot from ASICs and a lot of people within the ASICs Organization, so I'm gonna utilize that skill set to move and help and help, you know, move the needle for Nike I know they made a huge commitment with USA wrestling and I think that's cool I think it's it's better for the sport of wrestling when you have multiple companies, you know for actively Investing because now it makes everybody step up their game and you're right I mean the influence that we had with each other within Jordan and myself and not even Jordan and Adeline Grey as well and Gable and It just speaks volume that you know when you when you have the same lingo and the same terminology As a sport of wrestling it just it's more comfortable to deal with somebody like that, you know I look at Nike on two three years ago was on life support with wrestling They were they were gonna cut the wrestling line if you remember, I don't know if you remember Yeah, they were done. They were done with wrestling and then they just got a shot in the arm No one that they got that shot in the arm. They got this deal with USA wrestling What's that mean for you building momentum as a wrestler as a you know a wrestling guy going into Nike? What's that mean for you? I mean, it means a lot right first of all I mean security and for rider for my family, but like I mentioned earlier, I think when you have more companies Really competing it's better for the sport. It's better for the athlete Just it grows the sport in general because now instead of having one brand Really being that only one brand that support the sport now you have multiple brands And I feel like everybody it makes everybody step up their game and ultimately the consumer will be you know The benefit the largest beneficiary of that they have a signature shoot a while Nike has not done with an athlete Right. Okay. The last one I want to say collect Call that yep, what's the last is that something where you know, you can't really speak to what you're doing But is that something that you would want to do we get do we see guys with a shoe signature shoe line? That's something you'd be interested in. I mean, I would encourage it. I think it's important to know that you know the Investment that they've done with USA wrestling is huge right and I think an investment on a signature athlete It's even you it's even bigger because now these kids You know we have a bunch of kids here that are looking to go to the next level and they look up to the Jordan boroughs They look up to I don't like right a female perspective wise I think it's important that they do that because it just it's gonna stick to volume It's gonna really show that individual consumer. Hey, we're making a hero style a shoe, you know I mean who that athlete is I don't know, you know what I mean It could be a James Green now that he signed with Nike and he you know, he's potentially there a girl champion You know Cox now so I'll tell you what Jaden Cox. I don't know if I could have a better guy that guy right there He's phenomenal. He's a great face. I wouldn't say I Jordan boroughs. He's probably the next guy that I would say kids that are gonna look up to because he's just he has a great story He's well spoken. He's charismatic. He's a great dude He's come from nothing, you know, and And Went over a lot of obstacles to be where he's at and I feel like a lot of especially in this world a lot of kids can really You know, and what James got on his side is he's out of college where Kyle Snyder's got a way to another year You know, that's what James got going for him. He's got time is on his side at least another year But I tell you that Kyle Snyder is gonna be the best thing to come out and in terms of signature shoes I'm gonna be surprised if Soon as his collegiate Careers over if he doesn't have a signature shoot by the end of the month. It's gonna be surprising to me I'd be a travesty to me man. That guy's solid people too, right great individual Working with wrestlers when they see you and they know that you're in credibility with your Relationships that you hit and you know from ASIC and some of those aren't transferable obviously the Jordan relationship But business-wise you can't bring him over. What do you think guys think of and girls think of or in wrestling? When they get to deal with you, what do you think that does to the rest? Well, I feel that the relationship that I built in my previous world with those athletes You just mentioned it just gives me a lot of like it opens the door because you know, some people are very Cautious of opening up and letting themselves loose in front of other people that they don't know But the fact that I have that relationship with Jordan and Adeline and Gable and Rulan and Kale It just it just shows that the new athlete. Hey, this guy knows how to work with these athletes He knows in lingo. He's he's worked with all these other wrestlers and you know And I just I want to build great relationships with those guys as I am a Individual that I'm a fan of about the sport. I'm also a fan of these athletes, you know I mean, so I really appreciate that that I get to do that on an everyday basis and I don't take that for granted You guys go on and get in Terry bring the Terry brands over that was huge I mean straight up to break down the barrier right there. You guys brought over a lifetime a six guy How you bring guys over like that Continue to try and change people over. Yeah, that was that was Grant and that was Eddie From APS and I think you know those guys At that time even opened my eyes because I was with the competitive brand You know that they were trying to beat I think they're doing I think it's positive I think it's showing again. Hey, we're not afraid to invest and we're willing to make that investment and get an individual That's been a six for such a long time and moving them over right now I think it's key because you get these influencers to move over Everybody else is gonna follow And it just keeps volume of Eddie and Grant that they can they have that power that have that Mentality that they can go in there And take athletes like that away from me. Do you work here or do you work in Beaver's? No, I work out here in Torx. So do you have to go up the beaver? Yeah, I'll be out there in two weeks So you guys are out there. I mean you got Oregon State right there Only division one college wrestling program You know, that's there's not a lot of division one college wrestling program How can you guys help promote college wrestling here in the West Coast? Well, I think that's that again it speaks to the the commitment with USA Wrestling, right? Because now they know that Nike has invested in the USA Wrestling contract That's gonna should trickle down to the collegiate style of wrestling and it ultimately help bring more more Colleges and universities to this quarter All right No, I appreciate this man, you know, I have four kids my wife was a women's all-american my four kids are wrestling and you know My youngest daughter is gonna be wrestling in a you women's nationals And I think bringing them to this environment and having them surrounded by individuals like Cliff and yourself and Mark and even you know, like We had we were fortunate enough to have dinner with the burrows is And like my daughter and still to this day talks about that I just want them to understand that what I do is for them as well It wasn't for the sport of wrestling I wouldn't be