 And welcome to Hibachi Talk. Gordo, the techs are here. Nice to see you guys joining us here for a lively session of Hibachi Talk once again. So I feel like I've done this before. Anyway, we've had some technical difficulties earlier on, but we've got them solved. Anyway, please grab yourself a libation, pull up a chair and join us. I have a co-host in training today. I guess that's a kit. Mr. Rick's Maurer has decided to help us out because Andrew and I are jockeying around all the time. So he said he was going to give this a shot, so that's going to be great. And we have a lovely, a lovely vivacious guest today, Mary Maurer. Thanks. Nice to have you here, Mary, but your names seem to be kind of the same. I wonder if you might be related. I mean, he's old enough to be your great-grandfather. How old enough to be your father? Anyway, it's great to have you guys on the show. You've got a terrific story to tell, which is really kind of neat. And I hope our viewers can learn from this and so on. But we always ask our guests this standard question to kind of get a sense of who you are. So where did you go to school? Where did that start? Well, I'm from Oakland, California. I went to high school in Oakland and went to the same high school as Tom Hanks. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was your prom date, right? Yeah, it was cute even back then. That's something new. See, you learn something new on this show all the time. And then shout out to Laney Junior College, which is where I started. Down in the inner city of Oakland, I'll never forget it. It was probably even more memorable than finishing nursing school at Stanford. At Stanford, it must have been an inner city school. Yeah. That must have been a kick-and-a-half. It was. Especially to someone with your shade. Yes, exactly. Me and my sister. Whoa. Laney Junior College. Wow. Warm, warm feeling. We still talk about it to this day. Wow, that's terrific. But you decided to get into nursing, right? But why nursing? Why not? Now, what would you get into in Oakland? Okay, never mind. That's another story. But why nursing? Well, like any kid who's 18 or 19 years old trying to figure out what they want to do with their life, that was me. And I just remember sitting on the couch at home and reading a newspaper article about nursing. And it was just an autobiography of a girl who had chosen nursing as her career. And I just remember thinking, that's it. That's what I want to do. So that's what I did. Even though the one person who tried to talk me out of it was my father. Oh, really? That's a physician. Your dad was a physician? Yeah. It made sense because we had medicine in our family, but my dad is the one who said, no, Mary, they work way too hard. I hate to see you do that. But he couldn't talk me out of it. But nurses are such an essential part of what goes on. Oh, yeah. But he knew firsthand how hard nurses work. So now you were involved, intimately involved, I love this term, between 15,000 and 20,000 babies, right? Yeah. Nice job, dad. Thank you. I'm just tired thinking about it. I used to have a bar here. Yeah, that. Sorry. But maybe a good question is, why labor and delivery? Well, you're a labor. Yeah. That's for sure. Anyway, why labor and delivery? Well, I was a labor of love. I started my career in intensive care at Stanford. And I worked in various, I worked in an outpatient clinic for several years when my kids were little. And I knew from those experiences that I really liked the emergency side of medicine. I liked that high anxiety type of hospital care. But then again, I also knew that I liked the maternal child aspect, that I liked in nursing school, and then I, from having my own children, such an overwhelming life-changing experience that I thought it would be really special to be part of that. And so I found out that labor and delivery can combine emergency intensive care and then the normal childbearing type of care. So it's kind of cool, though, if you think about this again as a career. There's all kinds of options. Nursing ones. Yeah. You can pick whatever rocks your socks, right? Yeah. That makes it really cool. Yeah. That is. Yeah. You got 10,000, 15,000, 20,000 babies to deal with. Yeah. Yeah. You can. Like, our son is an RN and he's a psych nurse. That's right. He lives in a big psychiatric facility. Yeah. And he likes that. So something that I would never, ever, ever venture doing. I just can't imagine being in that. Well, I can imagine being a patient. Yeah. I'm not sure about being the one on the other side of the fence. Yeah. There is a reason that the family does have a psych nurse in the family. Yeah. I mean, it's got to take care of some of the other family members. Yes. So much for my co-host in training. Wow. So what is, so I got this one question. I got a bunch of others, but I got, have you ever had a father faint? I mean, just always think about this. I've had a father faint. Yes. Often. Often. I've had fathers faint watching, you know, certain procedures being done on their wife or girlfriend or in the operating room they fainted. But I have to say that in the past 10 years or so, where I work at Capilani, we've gotten a better handle on, on father's fainting. You don't let him in. Exactly. There's certain procedures that they're not allowed in the room for. Okay. And then in the operating room, we just don't let them in until certain procedures are done. And certain things are done. So it's, it's, it's been, it must be tremendously rewarding. It has to be. Yes. It's, it's remarkable. I can see the sparkle in your eye when you just say it. Yeah. It's like. Yeah. Imagine going to work and within two minutes you can be part of that miracle with somebody and holding a random baby. I'm excited to cheer up. Just thinking about it. It does. It makes you tear. I still get tears in my eyes at certain times in deliveries. I used to all the time, but. After 15,000. But still, still, yeah. It's hard not to when everybody in the room is crying. Yeah. They're not. They're pretty happy and so on. Well, back in my day when my daughter was born, I wasn't allowed in the room. Really? So has technology changed that? What's enabled it to allow? I probably would have fainted. No, I wouldn't have because I was there for grandson number one at Stanford, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. So, so. What's allowed? I think just the, just the whole women's movement and also the, the tendency towards more natural form of family oriented birth. Okay. Now can you imagine the men's movement? I'm picking out the men's march to allow me into the OR. Can you imagine that? 10,000 men walking down. We want to be in the OR. We want. It's, it is funny because the poor guys, they're still pretty timid about it. Yeah. You still kind of wondered if they really want to do this, but they're putting up a good front to make their wife happy. She's a big guy. Yeah. Yeah. I like the tenanted eyes that go in there. Yeah. So, so, you know, thinking about, of all these, now were you in, at Stanford, were you in delivery there or? No. I, I went right into the intensive care unit at Stanford and took care of patients who had, most of them were there for heart surgery. Okay. And took care of some of the very first heart transplant patients there. It kind of dates me, but I did. That's very exciting. That's right there. No, no, no. Remember the heart transplant in Loma Linda from the monkey? Oh yeah. Remember way back then? Yeah. There used to be a standard joke. Why are there no monkeys in Loma Linda? Because there's surgeons chasing them all over town. Yeah. I still remember some of my patients from, from that unit. Some really brave people who underwent those first heart transplant. Yeah. And now it's like nothing. I mean, I had a friend who was in for a stent on last Wednesday. You know him. I won't name the name. I don't want to violate HIPAA. So, but he went in for a stent and he was working out, like on Wednesday and he was back to work on Thursday or Friday. It's amazing. Amazing, isn't it? Yeah. It's just amazing what the technology, the technology has done. Yeah. So, so thinking of the, the kind of things. So what, what are some of the, the most interesting things that have happened in, with the technology wise happening with LND and things like that? Oh well, nursing in general, hospital nursing. Yeah. I, you know in nursing school and when I was first starting at Stanford I used to hear, you know that someday there'll be a computer at every bedside. Okay. And I remember thinking at that time, how could that possibly be? You know, that's not true. They're so big. Yeah. They're so big and they're, and you know, it's too far fetched. That'll never happen. Right. But here we are today with a computer at every bedside. So many computers on the, at the nurses station that we chart on and use. There's monitoring systems up on the walls where we can see what our patients are doing and not be in the room. There's all the drug pick systems that you can track. Yes, yeah. We, we now pull all of our medicines from a big gold machine. Yes, a big gold machine. All machines. Yeah, yeah. Oh, he's an older gold. A big gold machine. A big gold-making machine. Can you say drug company? Well, we have this segment. I'm going to insert a segment because you know, got one tech job. So I'm just thinking if you can imagine like what your expectations of I would be as a patient, whatever, what you're required to do, you know, what if someone else that was maybe not, not as concerned would do. So I have this segment called know, you know, got one tech job and I take pictures around town. So how's this one? Now check this out. So there's a tree growing outside of, out of a pole in downtown Haluulu. So now do I take the tree out or do I just put an orange cone there? Put an orange cone there. To protect what? The pole or the tree? That's really a question. Rick, I think it's the joint pole committee. Yes, the joint. You, you spent some time as an appointee in the sitting and counting of Haluulu. Yes. Yeah. And we would have a bit of a conversation about what really do we need to protect here? Yes, right. That's right. And the parks department would get involved. So, but could you imagine if healthcare worked that way? Well, I'm not sure. No, you don't want to. Okay. It would scare the heck out of me. Yeah. So, at least we've got a nice cone there. Exactly. I hope they follow procurement law when they, when they got it. So we'll come back to Mary. See, we get sidetracked. Yes. You kind of noticed that. Yeah. So you talk about the technology besides the beds and everything that's happening. Yeah. So what about things like charging? I remember when nurses used to walk around with stickers all over them. That still happens. And I see that. And I think with all these, all these wonderful advancements that we've made, why are we still putting stickers on papers for charges? I don't get it. I don't know. And so for an audience to understand, it's like something, someone orders a toothpaste. It's $180. To be the smartass. Well, okay. It goes a lullo. It is smart. So go in there and you got to take the sticker off and put it on there. On a piece of paper that has their name and, you know, all their information on it for charging. For charging for it. So and then at the end of your shift, you go out to the desk with this paper with, you know, could be 50 stickers on it. Yeah. And how many on you? Yeah. Oh wait. There's one. Oh. I forgot about it. Yeah. But why haven't they figured out how to work that yet? And don't look at me. I have that same frustration given my former history. But what I do need to say is that when Mary used to come home that on her scrub, she had stickers everywhere on her scrubs. Now, I will say this with her current employer, she never comes back with any sticker. Well, she's not working anymore. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I just want to protect her from her current employer. Very good. It would be very clear that there are no stickers on my, on my, on my person. And I do pick her up. Yeah. Yeah. So let's just be. I'm very careful. Local employers here. Yeah. You're okay with my bride on this one. I'm very careful with my stickers. I never, we never did mention it. He's the fund meister. He's in charge of money. No, that's right. In healthcare. Yeah. So, so this is awesome. So anyway, we're actually, I think we're coming up on time for the mid, mid service break or whatever we want to call this thing. So anyway, we're sitting here with Mary Maurer. She's a BSN from Stanford now working here at a local hospital. That doesn't have any stickers. If they didn't have stickers, they'd get put on the chart. They get put on the chart. It's been involved with the birth of some 15,000 to 20,000 babies in this world. What a magnificent thing that is. And so we'll come back and we'll talk somewhere about what's happening in the, in the tech side and we'll go get Angus. Okay. And I'm sure he's got some questions for you. Anyway, go to the tech side. Rick's the fund meister here and Mary Maurer will be back in a minute. Aloha. And how only Makahiki ho, which is happy new year. And I hope it's a happy and prosperous new year for you. I'm Kaley Akina with the grassroots Institute. Every week we partner with think tech Hawaii and produce a program called a Hanukako. Let's work together. We bring together movers and shakers who are making a difference here in Hawaii, making a better Hawaii for everyone. 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You're watching think tech Hawaii. 25 talk shows by 25 dedicated hosts every week, helping us explore and understand the issues and events in and affecting our state. Great content for Hawaii from think tech. Welcome back. I'm Rick Snighalos and the fundmeister. So Gordo, we're back. But we do have a security tech that we want to bring out and it's about FTP sites and especially related to healthcare. You know, those can be very, very. Issued laden and with the HIPAA requirements, we really want to stay away from FTP sites. We want to especially keep our information in house or on a very secure site if not in house. And we also want to make sure that we keep our HIPAA related information encrypted. So we just go with that. But let me now also introduce and give it over to Angus. Welcome back Angus. What do you got for us? How you doing, man? Hey, Manny. How you doing? Angus. I was learning to be a grown-up. Can I touch your heart? Don't come near me with that unless you sterilize it. I'll sterilize it for sure. Hey, how are you doing that, you nurse? You cannot touch me. I'm a well-equipped nurse. I always carry my scissors, clamp, and tape. Good thing I know how to have lips. You'll be clapping my lips down. Ah! What are I doing? Oh my goodness. Oh! I can touch you, you nurse. Anyway. Oh, thank you very much, Manny. You're such a wheeler. I love it. Anyway, I got a couple of gadgets. And I went thematic to strip. You have thematic means. I tried to keep it to the theme with what helped get it. So I found these two great gadgets. You should have got them for your house. So the first one is, how about bones turned into pens? That's a great idea. Can you imagine carrying them around the whole lot? It'd be great, especially when the father sees them, they start fading again. But that's my favorite one. You know, I do like my weed drama wine within a while. How about a wine canaphe that's shaped like my intestine? Now, my intestines are a little bit more beat-up than this, but yeah, that works pretty good. That's what that is. Anyway, that's my gadgets of the week. And Manny, thank you so much. You know what, Manny, you take your best. I know it's tachycardic right now. It's what? You can attack my card. I'll attack your card in a minute. Anyway, I've got to let this show if it gets out of control. I've got to turn it back to the fundmeister after I see my aloha. Anyway, let me see it at the end of every show. Then it touched my heart. Anyway, then it touched it again. Like a winger. Like a bee. Aloha. Show you what this is. Well, thanks so much. I really appreciate that. He's out of control. Well, he always sees that when he sees a nurse. Just what happens. And thanks a lot, Manny. It's terrific. Anyway, we're talking with Manny Mauer. She's a BSN. She's been in the healthcare industry for a little bit of a while. And let's see. Thank you. And we've talked about some of the things that have happened. You getting into the industry, how the industry has changed with technology. We talked about the billing and so on. But I find some things that are kind of really interesting. It's like, and there's a bunch I could talk about. What about now? Like when I knew, you knew what the sex of the baby was going to be when the baby was born. Now, what about now with all of the stuff that goes on? When you know ahead of time? Before hand. Yeah, well, afterwards. Back in the day. Back in the day. I never knew until. Yeah, we didn't know. And I've never had an ultrasound. I never would have thought of having an ultrasound. But now it's just standard that you get an ultrasound in the beginning of your pregnancy. So do you find a lot that want to know that the baby is going to be a boy or a girl before? Yeah, most people seem to want to know. But occasionally there's a surprise, which is kind of nice. I like to have the... No, I mean... A surprise? It's going to be a girl and it ends up being a boy? It happens. Oh, wow. But mostly it's just that a woman will decide, no, don't tell me I want to be surprised. I want to be surprised at the time. At the delivery, yeah. Yeah, one of my friends is... I forget, she's about coming up on like six months now. And they had one of those little parties. Oh, yeah, yeah. Where they don't know. Yeah. And they open a box and the balloons come out and say it's a boy or a girl. I'm just like, wow, have we turned this into a money-making industry? Exactly. It's just amazing. It's amazing the things we do. So what about things like baby monitoring and all of this kind of thing that's going on? Yeah, that's a big priority for us is to keep all our babies safe. And you know, you do hear in the news occasionally where there's infant abductions. So we have our babies all have a monitor device on them so that if they're taken out of the hospital the alarms go off, the doors close. And so it's pretty remarkable. Pretty remarkable stuff. Because a lot of the babies now are spending a lot of time with the families in the room. Yeah, right. They're supposed to be at all times in the room with the family. See, that's different from when I was growing up. I'll think about when I was growing up my mom and dad were smoking and drinking. Hey, you got a boy! Pass me another drink, then! Got a cigarette? Yeah, please, I'll have one. That explains a lot. Wow, so having the family, it's like almost the entire family seems like the entire family's in the room. Oftentimes, yeah. We do have a limit, though, for how many people can come in the room. But yeah, oftentimes after the delivery there's a lot of people in the room. There's a lot. Everybody's celebrating and having a good time. Well, I've been there done that way. I try to encourage families to just back off and let mom have some time with the baby by herself. She needs to get used to things and she needs to rest. If you can't answer these questions, you can say, okay, never mind. Cut this one off. What's the longest delivery? The longest like someone was in labor? Oh. Like 24 hours? Longer. Sometimes it can go on and on for a couple of days. Well, it's so much from decreasing the population of Hawaii. Really? Yeah. Wow. Well, what's the shortest? Oh, the shortest. Winning them in the room. Yeah, exactly. We get a lot of that, yeah. Oh, do you see pregnant women, while they're in labor and delivery, that they kind of change who they are, the longer that they have been in labor. Are you talking Jack? Well, yeah, something like that. Do they change personalities while the labor goes on? Do some of them get a little bit cranky? Do other of the women be nice? No, for the most part, personality changes when you're in labor and you get closer to the end where it hurts so much. That's tiring. A lot of our mothers now, Most of them are pretty good. Really? Yeah. They're helpful, supportive, you know? Yeah. But a lot of women nowadays, they'll get an epidural. Right. So you don't see that while cranky. They don't have that. Well, I remember when my grandson number one was born and my dad was like almost at the end and she said, I'm tired, I'm done. And the baby wasn't even out yet. And I went, what? Did she do that? And the nurses never went, no. They're not done. You're not done yet. Yeah. Wow. So thinking about this, what is the exciting aspects of what you do? I mean, watching 15,000 to 20,000 lives enter this world, it's got to be in and of itself, you can't explain it. What else makes this so exciting? I think just having that privilege to be in the room with the mom, the dad, and the doctor, it's just this little cohesive group bringing this life into the world and knowing that those parents are going to remember that for the rest of their lives. Right. The baby might not. Yeah. Right. That's just kind of a remarkable feeling to be part of that experience with people. Yeah. And this is another question I never thought of asking you just now. It's like, have you been involved in the, of anyone that you know has now become a famous person? Like, not that you follow every baby or whatever, but I just thought of it now. That's a good question. It's like, oh yeah, well, I happen to know the first astronaut. Now, I'm dating you. That's not true. That would make you 150. Gosh, I'm sure I have, but I don't really know. You don't really know. No. You don't want to know. Yeah. Wow. Taking care of, you know, people who are well known. Okay. So, and I've helped them with their births. That's it. Okay. So we're winding down, so we've got to move real quickly. So in less than 30 seconds, most advice to anyone who wants to get into the distance? Oh, just keep at it. Just if you have to take just one class at a time, do it. Don't give up. Yeah. And it's a wonderful career. It is. You know, my wife's a nurse and she loves it. And it's just wonderful. And just remember it's a wonderful career. And don't get an entitlement attitude when she's been in there. That's another problem. That's another program. That's another program. Anyway, Mary, thank you so much for coming on the show. You get autographed solo cup number 110 in the series. The first one, autographed by the Fundmeister. But I'd get them to give you a check instead of this cup. Anyway, we want to thank everybody for joining us. Rick's Maurer, my new co-host in training. Mary Maurer, BSN. Great, great career. Thank you so much. Thank you. Angus loves you to death. Anyway, like we say at the end of every show, one, two, three. How are you doing?